WEBVTT - LIL' FIZZ - Frito Chilli Cheese

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Eating While Broke.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host Colen Witt, and today we have very

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<v Speaker 1>special guests in the building, recording artists actor. Most of

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<v Speaker 1>us all know you from your multi platinum selling group

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<v Speaker 1>B two K. Yes, ma'am, it is an honor to

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<v Speaker 1>have you here today.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. I appreciate you having me.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me what you're gonna have me eating today.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, so today we're gonna take the famous Freedo

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<v Speaker 2>Lai bag, Fredo's original corn chips, and we're gonna pop

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<v Speaker 2>in a pot some hornmale chili. Okay, We're gonna heat

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<v Speaker 2>that joint up, and then we're gonna melt some cheese

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<v Speaker 2>in there and we're gonna pour it into the Friedo bag.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna mix it up, and we're gonna have chili

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<v Speaker 2>cheese fritos.

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<v Speaker 1>This sounds really dope. I've never ever had this, So

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<v Speaker 1>I was you heard me. I was really excited. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, wait, what, Yeah, that's what we're gonna go with.

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<v Speaker 1>This sounds like something you'd eat like after school.

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<v Speaker 2>Yo. So the way this came about was I used

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<v Speaker 2>to me and my friends after school, we would always

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<v Speaker 2>go to West Chuster Park so and just playball. It

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<v Speaker 2>was an open gym there, so of course, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we didn't have no money. As kids, we have like

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<v Speaker 2>some change in our pocket. And the ice cream trunk

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<v Speaker 2>used to pull up and he would have these small

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<v Speaker 2>bags of free thos and chili and cheese that he made.

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<v Speaker 2>He would just dump a little bit in there and

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<v Speaker 2>give us a plastic spoon. We mix it up like

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<v Speaker 2>not your us.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh so that's how okay, okay, I didn't even know that.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if all the ice cream trugs so that

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like in La that happens. Yeah, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know about New.

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<v Speaker 2>York, but then you know, it transferred over to us.

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<v Speaker 2>Leaving middle school to high school and stopping at seven eleven,

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<v Speaker 2>getting the bag of Friedo's, opening it in the store

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<v Speaker 2>and then hitting it with the chili and cheese instead

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<v Speaker 2>of doing nacho chips, because then you get more chips

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<v Speaker 2>in the bag, you know, so then you could get fancy.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like kind of big too, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>You could get fancy after seven elevens through some jalapenos

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<v Speaker 2>on there too, you know what I'm saying. And then

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<v Speaker 2>they just charged you like a dollar for the Chilian cheese.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh really, okay, I thought you guys were like kind

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<v Speaker 1>of sneaking it.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean yeah, it was the initial thing, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Then they were like, no, kids, you're gonna pay a dollar. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll go ahead and whip up this chili.

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<v Speaker 2>Start.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you call this, Freddy Freedom?

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<v Speaker 2>My name is the Freedo Bang.

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<v Speaker 1>The Freedo Bang.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, because you whip Freedo up with little shebang,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying. So it's the Freedo Bang. Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Teachers.

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<v Speaker 2>Teachers were gonna pop open this can of chili right now.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't add any seasoning or anything.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you really want to get fancy like that.

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<v Speaker 2>But we're talking about being broke. So when you broke,

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<v Speaker 2>you ain't got no seasons, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>You gotta work with what you got.

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<v Speaker 1>How'd you find the can of chili? How'd you get

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<v Speaker 1>onto that?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it was down the street from my house. I

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<v Speaker 2>stayed on Slosson and uh it was a grocery store

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<v Speaker 2>down the street called the Bootle Market. It's still there

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<v Speaker 2>in the Booto Market. This was the chili they gave us.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, I'm saying, this is our options chili.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna take a little bit of this water.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're fron You're an l A native, right, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, Well I was born in New Orleans, so

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<v Speaker 2>I got got creole winding. You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>I could really throw down. We was really cooking, and

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<v Speaker 2>we wasn't no no broke. You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>I can make some real real fire up in here.

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<v Speaker 1>But so if you didn't have to cook a broke

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<v Speaker 1>this what dish could I expect from a good Like

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<v Speaker 1>if you were trying to impress me, like, what would

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<v Speaker 1>you do to what meal would you cook for me?

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<v Speaker 2>Well? First I would ask do you are.

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<v Speaker 1>You allergic to anything?

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing? Okay? Do you like spicy food?

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<v Speaker 1>Not really?

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<v Speaker 2>Not really okay? So I would probably bless you with like.

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<v Speaker 1>Some bless you are you in the kitchen?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? I would bless you with some chicken and shrimp

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<v Speaker 2>pasta jumbalie.

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<v Speaker 1>How long would that take you to cook?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm quick, so I probably fixed that up in like

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<v Speaker 2>an hour.

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<v Speaker 1>No way, damn. We should have had a special addition

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<v Speaker 1>for you. So take me back to what was going

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<v Speaker 1>on during this era, like take me all the way

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<v Speaker 1>there so I could be there with you during this

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<v Speaker 1>broke here in middle school? High school? What's going on?

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<v Speaker 2>Say mostly middle school? High school is early be two

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<v Speaker 2>k you know, so I was on the road at

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<v Speaker 2>that time. But high middle school, you know, I would

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<v Speaker 2>catch the bus home. Like I said, I stayed right

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<v Speaker 2>there off Slusson in like over heal, so right there.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean we used to have Ye's Cafe, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>Ye's Chinese restaurant. We had Sachi's karaoke, Tariokey chicken bowls,

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<v Speaker 2>we had another little Mexican restaurant right there.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, what was your home life was like?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it like a single mom? Two parents house, single mom?

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<v Speaker 1>And then what did your mom do she like as

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<v Speaker 1>far as work and how did she support y'all?

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<v Speaker 2>She canceled counseled at a junior college West Los Angeles

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<v Speaker 2>community House. She's a counselor up there. Well she was.

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<v Speaker 2>She retired. But man, I got so many kids that

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<v Speaker 2>used to see me and would be like, yo, your

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<v Speaker 2>little fizz, And I'm like, yeah, they will be like, man,

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<v Speaker 2>I know your mom, Like he helped me through school.

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<v Speaker 2>Tell miss Frederick, I said, thank you like, Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>I used to be like, man, my mom's more famous

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<v Speaker 2>in the hood than me, because literally, like everybody that

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<v Speaker 2>knew me knew my mom. Everybody was going to that school.

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<v Speaker 2>See what was bubbling warm? Okay, that's like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>what's heating up? See that little smoke coming off of it.

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<v Speaker 1>So the kids in school they would call you a

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<v Speaker 1>little fits. So your name was little Fitz.

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<v Speaker 2>Before I got the name in the group.

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<v Speaker 1>But you're saying, after you was superstar B two K,

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<v Speaker 1>they were still coming up to you about your mom. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that's pretty awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, Still to this day, I'll see people like, man,

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<v Speaker 2>your mom helped me through school. Man, if it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>for her, I wouldn't have went to this school and

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<v Speaker 2>started working here. Yeah, she put a lot of.

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<v Speaker 1>People on like, so she was like very inspiring.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she was a counselor. Then she became head of

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<v Speaker 2>a transfer center, so she started helping kids figure out,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, all the credits and everything they needed to

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<v Speaker 2>get to their desire university.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. And then did you have sip? It was just

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<v Speaker 1>you my older sister. Okay, So did you guys grow

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<v Speaker 1>up with her busy busy? Because a lot of single moms.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hearing that like barely.

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<v Speaker 2>My older sister, she's seven years older, so she played

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<v Speaker 2>a big role in my life most of the time.

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<v Speaker 2>I can remember in elementary school my mom was working

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<v Speaker 2>graen yard shift for some computer computer company, and uh,

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<v Speaker 2>it would be me and my sister. I would come home.

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<v Speaker 2>Times have changed, man, I would come home from the

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<v Speaker 2>bus in the second grade by myself wow, and do stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Like this really, Like, so you learned learn how to

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<v Speaker 1>cook like simple meals early, yeah, super early, second grade ten?

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<v Speaker 2>How old is it was making all of that super early?

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<v Speaker 2>But like I said, my family was from New Orleans,

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<v Speaker 2>so I had an uncle who showed me how to

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<v Speaker 2>chop up green onions. Take some uh some hot sausage

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<v Speaker 2>cut up, put some a couple of empowdered garlic powder,

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<v Speaker 2>some garlic clothes. Cut those up and put it in

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<v Speaker 2>the in the noodles, and that'd be tasting like a

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<v Speaker 2>whole different. It ain't regular top raman. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how you did your raman.

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<v Speaker 2>What crack, what fire man?

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<v Speaker 1>We should have had you a damn You could do

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<v Speaker 1>your own eating while broke special So you started with

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<v Speaker 1>B two K kind of early So take me through, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess how that transition happened from being raising a

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<v Speaker 1>single mom, you know, household with an older sibling that's

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<v Speaker 1>seven years older to you, kind of getting signed right

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<v Speaker 1>out of high school or I'm guessing during high school.

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<v Speaker 2>In high school during our ninth grade year actually ninth grade?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what were you doing as a kid?

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't finish the full ninth grade year. I checked

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<v Speaker 2>out and started doing independent studies.

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<v Speaker 1>So what were you doing that led to a record

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<v Speaker 1>deal on the ninth grade? I have to know what

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<v Speaker 1>you were doing when your mom wasn't watching you.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we were being rehearsal a lot, you know, as

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<v Speaker 3>a group, we were together in studio sessions, rehearsals mostly

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<v Speaker 3>mostly rehearsal and.

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<v Speaker 2>Performing for different labels.

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<v Speaker 1>So while you were a little kid, though, but who

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<v Speaker 1>was helping you guide you when you're a little kid,

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<v Speaker 1>Like obviously you didn't Just like how I need to

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<v Speaker 1>know how this group came together because I'm so lost.

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<v Speaker 1>You were so young?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was young. I was eight years old when

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<v Speaker 2>I joined the group.

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<v Speaker 1>Was it like you and your friends?

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<v Speaker 2>It was me actually, uh, friend of mine still to

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<v Speaker 2>this day, Jane Aiko's older brother, his name Jahi. He

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<v Speaker 2>was in the group. It was me and him were

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<v Speaker 2>more of the original like first two. We went through

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of different members until it got to me, Jahi,

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<v Speaker 2>this other guy Trey, and Bull and Rats and that

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<v Speaker 2>group got split up because Sony wanted to sign us,

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<v Speaker 2>but they wanted to sign just us three with another

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<v Speaker 2>member and take the other two Jahi and Trey and

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<v Speaker 2>put them in another group, which became Final Four.

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<v Speaker 1>But how did you guys get in front of the

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<v Speaker 1>labels at that age?

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<v Speaker 2>We had management that was that had originally put the

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<v Speaker 2>group together, you know, was finding all the members. A

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<v Speaker 2>lady by the name Akisha Gamble and choreographer Dave Scott.

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<v Speaker 2>They found us in all different places. I was at

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<v Speaker 2>a Black HICs Black Expo downtown LA and my mom

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<v Speaker 2>took me down there as a kid, and there was

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<v Speaker 2>this group on stage and I was looking at him.

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<v Speaker 2>I was really into ABC Criss Cross at that and

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<v Speaker 2>they had on like the big jerseys and the baggy jeans,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, oh, they looked tight. And then

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<v Speaker 2>we walked off and this lady came chasing behind my mom.

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<v Speaker 2>She's excuse me, your son is so adorable. What's his name?

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<v Speaker 2>She started talking to me and I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Drew and she was like, do you sing a

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<v Speaker 2>rapp And I'm like, yeah, I rap and she's like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh okay, and my mom's looking like you rap? What's

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<v Speaker 2>going on? So she called my mom uh later on

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<v Speaker 2>that week and invited me over to one of the

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<v Speaker 2>group members' houses what happened to be Jahiaiko's older brother

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<v Speaker 2>and audition. I rapped and they liked it. They put

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<v Speaker 2>me in a group. I was hey, wow, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we just from that point we got a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>working you know, learning how to be an artist, rehearsals,

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<v Speaker 2>media training, and from there the group just kept developing.

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<v Speaker 2>Different members would come in and out, you know, things

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<v Speaker 2>weren't happening in the time spend that certain parents were

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<v Speaker 2>looking forward to happen for their kids, so they would

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<v Speaker 2>take them out the group. We find a replacement, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's how it all like formed to the five members

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<v Speaker 2>and then split to B two K and final four.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, and then what was your mom's thoughts during this

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<v Speaker 1>whole process? Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>My mom was like, yo, like, don't have your heart

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<v Speaker 2>set on this, you know, she wanted me to finish

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<v Speaker 2>school and live a normal life, you know, live a

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<v Speaker 2>normal grow up in the normal how normal kids do.

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<v Speaker 2>She didn't really see it. Between the four of us,

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<v Speaker 2>we had an idea on what this was really going

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<v Speaker 2>to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you were you personally were really invested.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all four of us four, you know, we were

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<v Speaker 2>destined on getting in to where we saw ourselves. And

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<v Speaker 2>I was being the biggest group in America.

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<v Speaker 1>So and you saw that from a young age. And

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<v Speaker 1>did you tell your mom that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yep? And she wanted to take me out the group

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<v Speaker 2>at a time and I was like, no, not not, Nope,

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<v Speaker 2>this is happening. And she was like, but you don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to give up on your you know, I want

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<v Speaker 2>to play basketball. I wanted to do the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>sports things. She just felt bad. She was like, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to you know, discourage you or anything, but

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<v Speaker 2>I still want you to have your you know, your childhood.

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<v Speaker 2>Like prom he didn't come in graduating from high school.

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<v Speaker 2>So when it happened, I just promised her that I

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<v Speaker 2>would finish school. So I finished high school. I graduated

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<v Speaker 2>from independent studies, but I graduated, got my degree, and

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<v Speaker 2>it just worked. It worked. How I've seen it.

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<v Speaker 1>But did you ever end up going to like prom

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<v Speaker 1>and all the high schools?

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<v Speaker 2>So we did an MTV prom or something, but it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't like a real problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, do you feel like, looking back that you missed

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<v Speaker 1>out or.

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<v Speaker 2>Not that I missed out because I got to experience.

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<v Speaker 1>With, oh watch out that bad boys hot.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I got to experience with you know, nine percent

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<v Speaker 2>of the world.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm sure you were touring at a very baby age, right.

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<v Speaker 2>So no, I don't regret it. But you know, now

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm like, my on is here, I'm like, nah,

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't let him do this, you know, I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>do entertainment unless it just was God sent for him

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<v Speaker 2>to do it. But I want him to have that

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<v Speaker 2>normal child life, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So you kind of see now that you're a parent,

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<v Speaker 1>like what your mom's perspective was.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, Wow, you don't ever see it as a kid,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. Yeah, So this this this chili cheese ready ready?

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<v Speaker 1>So I opened the bag. So guys, just so you

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<v Speaker 1>listeners are listening, he heated up the chili in the

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<v Speaker 1>pot through some shredded cheese on top. We're opening the

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<v Speaker 1>bag of Fredo's I've never had this, so this is going.

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<v Speaker 1>It's very hot, and he's pouring it directly from the

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<v Speaker 1>pot into the bag. He looks like a professional, like

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<v Speaker 1>he's been doing this his whole life.

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<v Speaker 2>Step five. You know what I'm saying, Take that blinky

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<v Speaker 2>right there at them an up, got your fork right

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<v Speaker 2>there ready, yep, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're feeling in a

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<v Speaker 2>bag right there. You know it's oh yeah, that's that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that nikki right there. So when you get about here,

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna like start like, all right, I need some more,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you can put more if you're not. If not,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're done, you know, you can go back to it.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, yeah, and we'll let you all see that.

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<v Speaker 1>That looks really gooey and messy, and all right, here

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<v Speaker 1>we go. I got my first I mean this, this

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<v Speaker 1>looks crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, get ready, because you know, I don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>this is doing to the stomach these days, saying as

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<v Speaker 2>an adult, this might not agree with me. This is

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<v Speaker 2>eating while broke.

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<v Speaker 1>We got the bags rolled back just the way business

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<v Speaker 1>teaching me how to do this. So I got it

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<v Speaker 1>on my fork right here, steaming hot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, let me get a little bit with you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Here we go for the taste test.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on and we go.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh there we go, ready one the three. Listen, How

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<v Speaker 1>you still don't do this?

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<v Speaker 2>How I still don't? You can't do this every day? Now?

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<v Speaker 2>You know I'm not in.

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<v Speaker 1>My age, no, no, but you know what the texture

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<v Speaker 1>on this this is. This is awesome. The texture from

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<v Speaker 1>the crunch and then the Melsey gooey and the hotness

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<v Speaker 1>this is. I don't know why I didn't know about this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I have to put you all on man, this

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<v Speaker 2>is that got real, l A.

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<v Speaker 1>I would be eating this every day, you feel me?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, guys, I'm gonna stop eating in your ears,

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<v Speaker 1>but this is I would kill this. This would be

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<v Speaker 1>my everyday snack as a kid. That's highly addictive, really good.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, this meal was like three dollars

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<v Speaker 1>I think, like seriously, like three or four dollars cheap,

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<v Speaker 1>like for multiple servings, Like it's like maybe five. But

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<v Speaker 1>this is an amazing Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you know, if my son is having a sleepover

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<v Speaker 2>and his boys is over, they want a snack, I

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<v Speaker 2>can get the little bags of the free doos make

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<v Speaker 2>this bit yep and they're like, this is.

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<v Speaker 1>Fire you like daddy other year off.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, yeah, you know, I got all the snacks.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me tell you, this is a great snack. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a great I don't even know appetizers, Like this

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<v Speaker 1>is amazing. So now your your story is so unique

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<v Speaker 1>because you're young and you literally went to the Promised Land,

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<v Speaker 1>which was pretty impressive. So you're eight years old, you're

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you end up signing in the ninth grade,

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<v Speaker 1>So like let's talk about the signing day and what

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<v Speaker 1>was going on in your life, like what your schedule

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<v Speaker 1>was looking like, what your home life was looking like, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>your pockets were looking like before the deal.

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<v Speaker 2>So in high school, ninth grade at the time, I

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<v Speaker 2>started school kindergarten at four years old, so in ninth

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<v Speaker 2>grade I was thirteen. I was super young. My schedule

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<v Speaker 2>was a normal kids school schedule. I played for the

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<v Speaker 2>football team at the time, I was trying out for

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<v Speaker 2>the basketball team. I made the team but didn't ever

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<v Speaker 2>get to go to the first practice because I had

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<v Speaker 2>to check out before then.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, but your schedule also included like rehearsals and trainings, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Not as much while school was going on. More so

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<v Speaker 2>on the weekends because yeah, we were in school. We

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<v Speaker 2>hadn't checked out your ship. But prior to ninth grade

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<v Speaker 2>starting and that summer, prior to ninth grade, we were

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<v Speaker 2>together all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you guys go to the same high school?

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<v Speaker 2>None of us.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, did you tell your friends at school or your

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<v Speaker 1>pears at school that you were doing this when they

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<v Speaker 1>support it?

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<v Speaker 2>When I came, I cause I went to Bishop Montgomery,

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<v Speaker 2>so it was a Catholic school. We had uniforms. So

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<v Speaker 2>I came to school one day in regular clothes. I

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<v Speaker 2>was checking out and everybody was like, where are you going?

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<v Speaker 2>Where you go? I was like, yeah, I'm leaving. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>about to be famous. Like all right, what are you

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<v Speaker 2>talking about. I'm like, yeah, I'm checking out. I'm about

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<v Speaker 2>to be famous. So I just got a deal. No,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to be real cool. I used to wear

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<v Speaker 2>a fake rolex with a tape on it holding it

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<v Speaker 2>together and stuff, so it was fun, you know. I

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<v Speaker 2>just I remember that though going there, and then we

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<v Speaker 2>started to do like magazine covers and stuff like when

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<v Speaker 2>word up was out, So then all of my peers

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<v Speaker 2>and everybody at school was like, yo, you really are famous,

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<v Speaker 2>Like you in this group. So they had a homecoming

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<v Speaker 2>that year, a homecoming dance, and my boy that went

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<v Speaker 2>to school with me, he made me a fake ID

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<v Speaker 2>for Bishop and I went to the homecoming dance. And

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<v Speaker 2>when I went there, it was like everybody was like, yo,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god, he's here. Like I was like, I

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<v Speaker 2>remember that that was my highlight high school moment, Like yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it felt like I had was like prom king or

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<v Speaker 2>something like, you know, everybody was just all lies on

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<v Speaker 2>me at the school dance.

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<v Speaker 1>That has been pretty incredible feeling now as because that

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<v Speaker 1>was the first time and the only reason why I'm

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<v Speaker 1>trying to find this out was that the first time

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<v Speaker 1>this is before you're really really be two K. So

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<v Speaker 1>this is like a the snippet of what your life

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<v Speaker 1>is about to becoming.

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<v Speaker 2>And you liked it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, So then what's the next milestone like between

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<v Speaker 1>you being signed now you know you're getting these interviews,

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<v Speaker 1>your people are starting, you're starting to get all this

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<v Speaker 1>pr behind you, Like, what's the next milestone before before money,

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<v Speaker 1>like more of the fame, Like what was that next transition?

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<v Speaker 1>Like when did you realize Like, oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Shit, I would think it was when we first heard

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<v Speaker 2>our song on the radio. We were in New York

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<v Speaker 2>and like Times Square and we were about to do

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<v Speaker 2>one on six in Park for the first time.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a big show at the time, I would have

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<v Speaker 1>been and that's it was the car the song playing

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<v Speaker 1>in the.

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<v Speaker 2>Radio and on the radio in the car.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't the one on six in Park.

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<v Speaker 2>What And because it was like, Yo, we're actually on

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<v Speaker 2>the radio. You know. That's like now it's like we

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<v Speaker 2>got streaming absence and stuff, so it's not like anybody

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<v Speaker 2>can go put that song on the app and you

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<v Speaker 2>can hear it. Back then, to have your song on

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<v Speaker 2>the radio, it was like you made it. You was like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my god, there the world is listening to us

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<v Speaker 2>right now on the radio, you know. So that was

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<v Speaker 2>just a big, a big accomplishment and the milestone for

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<v Speaker 2>us for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, and then the song what was the song at

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<v Speaker 1>the time, because I know all your songs pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>just blew up. I just remember beat Too Gay everywhere

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<v Speaker 1>it was uh huh, okay, yeah, Tricky Stewart. So your

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<v Speaker 1>songs playing on the radio, you're doing these interviews, you're

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<v Speaker 1>no longer in school, you're still in high school, and

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<v Speaker 1>your mom is she on the road with you or

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<v Speaker 1>she letting you.

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<v Speaker 2>No, we're on the road with road management, but she's

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<v Speaker 2>calling you know, I'm making sure I do my parts.

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<v Speaker 2>My mom was before she got the counseling job, she

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<v Speaker 2>was a substitute teacher. She would sub in at different schools.

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<v Speaker 2>So I never got a break like to just say,

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<v Speaker 2>fuck it, I ain't doing homework today. What I'm saying

0:23:00.520 --> 0:23:02.800
<v Speaker 2>it was like, did you do your work? What is it?

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<v Speaker 2>Let me see it. So it was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>school had to be done, okay, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And then what are your pockets looking like during this

0:23:13.280 --> 0:23:14.520
<v Speaker 1>rise to success?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we got our little advancement, which wasn't crazy. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>most of it had to go into a trust account

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<v Speaker 2>because we weren't eighteen, so I couldn't spend it like that.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think the first little money I had, I

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<v Speaker 2>might have had like five grand to really touch and

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<v Speaker 2>I think I spent it all in the mall. In

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<v Speaker 2>like two weeks, it was gone, those shoes, just everything

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<v Speaker 2>you wanted. You know. It was like I got money, Now, two.

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<v Speaker 1>Weeks it was gone. Did your mom know you blewing?

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<v Speaker 1>In two weeks?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Nah? No, See, my mom gave me access to really

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<v Speaker 2>control my own money, the money I could touch, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, so she didn't touch it at all, she let it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's nice. A lot of parents don't do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Nah. Nah. And sometimes I'd be like, I wish you

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<v Speaker 2>would have took all my fucking money.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know what, Now when you handle your money,

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<v Speaker 1>do you handle it different?

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<v Speaker 2>Because especially because I have a kid, you know, I

0:24:13.200 --> 0:24:15.520
<v Speaker 2>always have to put something to the side for him.

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<v Speaker 2>So when you know, whenever he's eighteen or something happened,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he's he's good.

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<v Speaker 1>He's so don't caring. Yeah, yeah, I know that. Like

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<v Speaker 1>now I feel way more parental responsibility after having a kid.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, first of all, school tuition, priority over everything, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>number one thing, you know. And now I'm like, okay

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<v Speaker 1>for future, you know, generational wealth, house, whatever, you know. Trust.

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<v Speaker 1>But luckily with social media, now I feel like, even

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<v Speaker 1>if you're not really the genius at parenting, like social

0:24:51.320 --> 0:24:53.720
<v Speaker 1>media will have like a thirty second snippet on how

0:24:53.720 --> 0:24:57.320
<v Speaker 1>you should be operating, you know, right, how you should

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<v Speaker 1>be handling your house and your real estate and your

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<v Speaker 1>bank accounts for your kids. And if you say this,

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<v Speaker 1>you see those snippets online.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well all the time, all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So back to your story. So you you

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<v Speaker 1>get your five thousand, that's your first taste of money

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<v Speaker 1>while being popular. Right, then what's the next monthslone? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>when do you do you blow up and actually have

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<v Speaker 1>money a lot of money at the same time.

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<v Speaker 2>No, because like we were still under eighteen. So, like

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<v Speaker 2>I said, majority, I know, my money was going into

0:25:32.720 --> 0:25:35.200
<v Speaker 2>a trust account, you know where I couldn't touch it

0:25:35.320 --> 0:25:38.639
<v Speaker 2>till I was eighteen. However, really your parents worked, it

0:25:38.680 --> 0:25:41.840
<v Speaker 2>was how you was you see your money. So I

0:25:41.920 --> 0:25:44.600
<v Speaker 2>was maybe seeing only ten percent of my money.

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<v Speaker 1>That I was getting good job, Mom, I was good.

0:25:47.720 --> 0:25:48.800
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't seeing a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>So but then what happened when you turned eighteen?

0:25:52.359 --> 0:25:57.480
<v Speaker 2>I ain't got my crib, pay my car off, the

0:25:57.560 --> 0:26:01.160
<v Speaker 2>responsible stuff I should do at eighteen, you know. But

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<v Speaker 2>then from there it was like figuring it all out

0:26:04.560 --> 0:26:09.320
<v Speaker 2>again because I wasn't doing the nine to five. I

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<v Speaker 2>did check back into school because Mom she was still

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<v Speaker 2>at the junior college. So I was like, I think

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<v Speaker 2>I was maybe like twenty four and I checked back

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<v Speaker 2>into school for like a year.

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<v Speaker 1>But where was B two K when you were twenty four,

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<v Speaker 1>like I was.

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<v Speaker 2>We were broken up before we turned eighteen. We broke up,

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<v Speaker 2>oh before you before I turned eighteen. Yeah, we broke

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<v Speaker 2>up when I was seventeen.

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<v Speaker 1>Really, but so when we was watching you on TV

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<v Speaker 1>and all that, you was a little kid.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was from thirteen to seventeen.

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<v Speaker 1>What it's so weird because I think maybe because I

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<v Speaker 1>was younger, I felt like maybe you were older or something.

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<v Speaker 2>No, thirteen to seventeen, and then love and Hip Hop

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<v Speaker 2>came about twenty fourteen. By that time, I was going

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<v Speaker 2>on thirty.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, so you're in the so the band gets dismembered,

0:26:59.160 --> 0:27:02.520
<v Speaker 1>you go back to regular life. But is regular life

0:27:02.600 --> 0:27:06.640
<v Speaker 1>normal for someone that is a super star? Well no, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So tell me how that was that transition tough.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say not. I didn't. It wasn't tough for

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<v Speaker 2>me because I'm an introvert. I already don't like to

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<v Speaker 2>be out, so I'd rather stay in the house. So

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<v Speaker 2>I was just very secluded most of the time. It

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't until I had my son when I was twenty

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<v Speaker 2>four that I like started to step out again. And

0:27:35.560 --> 0:27:37.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, I have to play the parent roles. So

0:27:37.600 --> 0:27:41.240
<v Speaker 2>now I'm meeting other kids, parents and talking and being

0:27:41.280 --> 0:27:45.880
<v Speaker 2>more social and out. So that's what got me out

0:27:45.880 --> 0:27:47.720
<v Speaker 2>of like Michelle was having my son.

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<v Speaker 1>But when the band justmembered, did you say you're gonna

0:27:51.760 --> 0:27:53.959
<v Speaker 1>stay in music or did you say we tried?

0:27:54.520 --> 0:27:57.720
<v Speaker 2>I tried, but it was just so much politics and

0:27:57.920 --> 0:28:00.560
<v Speaker 2>people that we were dealing with that keeping certain things

0:28:00.600 --> 0:28:03.320
<v Speaker 2>in place to where we couldn't really do much. So

0:28:05.000 --> 0:28:07.239
<v Speaker 2>I tried to do what I could, but yeah, it

0:28:07.320 --> 0:28:07.840
<v Speaker 2>wasn't much.

0:28:08.040 --> 0:28:10.120
<v Speaker 1>Did you end up trying to get a job or open, No.

0:28:10.359 --> 0:28:11.920
<v Speaker 2>I was never going to get a job.

0:28:12.080 --> 0:28:13.360
<v Speaker 1>That was never good.

0:28:13.440 --> 0:28:16.240
<v Speaker 2>I was not a Nope. I'm like, no, I'm fizzed.

0:28:16.240 --> 0:28:19.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm not getting no job. I'm gonna figure it out.

0:28:19.080 --> 0:28:22.040
<v Speaker 1>What did your mom say when you were saying that, She.

0:28:22.200 --> 0:28:25.000
<v Speaker 2>Just told me keep going. She pushed the dream.

0:28:25.200 --> 0:28:28.720
<v Speaker 1>You know, how did you survive? I guess from now

0:28:28.960 --> 0:28:31.680
<v Speaker 1>from that point, I mean before loving hip hop.

0:28:32.320 --> 0:28:36.880
<v Speaker 2>So before hip hop so eighteen to twenty four when

0:28:36.920 --> 0:28:40.320
<v Speaker 2>I was eighteen. Now you're about to get a breakthrough

0:28:40.360 --> 0:28:44.880
<v Speaker 2>story nobody ever really got. That's what I.

0:28:43.640 --> 0:28:47.400
<v Speaker 1>Help me, help me, help you help me, but help me, Yes,

0:28:48.160 --> 0:28:48.760
<v Speaker 1>tell me.

0:28:48.840 --> 0:28:51.440
<v Speaker 2>I did some. I did some smart things, you know,

0:28:52.560 --> 0:28:58.240
<v Speaker 2>win my money. But prior in those years, I started

0:28:58.280 --> 0:29:05.040
<v Speaker 2>a business. I had a cannabis dispensary. I had dispensaries,

0:29:05.800 --> 0:29:10.360
<v Speaker 2>uh that whole time and even past that time. Uh,

0:29:10.640 --> 0:29:13.440
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, that was my main source of income. I

0:29:13.440 --> 0:29:18.920
<v Speaker 2>had met a guy who really knew the business inside

0:29:18.960 --> 0:29:22.960
<v Speaker 2>and out, and we were neighbors, and I had a

0:29:22.960 --> 0:29:26.800
<v Speaker 2>little bit of money, and I was like, yo, I

0:29:26.880 --> 0:29:31.400
<v Speaker 2>smoked at the time, still do. And I was like, yo,

0:29:31.480 --> 0:29:34.080
<v Speaker 2>I want to start one of these, Like what like

0:29:34.840 --> 0:29:37.680
<v Speaker 2>what is this? And he started showing me the ropes

0:29:37.720 --> 0:29:41.840
<v Speaker 2>and everything. So we opened one together. It was just ye,

0:29:41.960 --> 0:29:48.760
<v Speaker 2>this was two thousand and six. I opened my first shop.

0:29:48.800 --> 0:29:51.680
<v Speaker 2>It was downtown to lay me and him. We had

0:29:51.720 --> 0:29:54.200
<v Speaker 2>that one for about a year and maybe two years,

0:29:54.440 --> 0:29:57.400
<v Speaker 2>and then opened another and another And you.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys were you guys? Was he a part black too?

0:29:59.760 --> 0:30:01.720
<v Speaker 2>Or was it was a Jewish guy?

0:30:01.800 --> 0:30:04.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh, Jewish guy. I was gonna say. Because the cannabis industry,

0:30:05.880 --> 0:30:08.920
<v Speaker 1>there's rumors on the street that it's notorious a little

0:30:08.960 --> 0:30:12.520
<v Speaker 1>bit slanted away from the blacks, like to get their

0:30:12.560 --> 0:30:13.720
<v Speaker 1>licensing and being able.

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<v Speaker 2>To know the stories that came in place, like you

0:30:15.840 --> 0:30:21.680
<v Speaker 2>have the it's a license that's available for people who

0:30:21.680 --> 0:30:27.440
<v Speaker 2>have been to jail for selling marijuana or traffic in marijuana.

0:30:27.800 --> 0:30:30.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah that I forget what it's called. Man, it's been.

0:30:30.480 --> 0:30:33.200
<v Speaker 1>So long, but there is there is a system that

0:30:33.240 --> 0:30:37.840
<v Speaker 1>helps to get them, Okay. Yeah, because I remember thinking

0:30:37.920 --> 0:30:39.920
<v Speaker 1>at some point, like, man, you got to think of

0:30:39.960 --> 0:30:42.760
<v Speaker 1>how many people are doing this before it became legal.

0:30:42.960 --> 0:30:46.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all their experience and to my situations for sure,

0:30:46.840 --> 0:30:49.280
<v Speaker 2>because you know, I mean it came out in what

0:30:49.440 --> 0:30:53.520
<v Speaker 2>two thousand and twelve, one shop I have for like,

0:30:55.840 --> 0:30:57.840
<v Speaker 2>I had it for like three four years. It was

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<v Speaker 2>on Robertson. It was called Little Amsterdam. Sold it to

0:31:01.560 --> 0:31:04.960
<v Speaker 2>these other guys and they never took It's part of

0:31:04.960 --> 0:31:07.040
<v Speaker 2>my fault. I never got the least out of my name.

0:31:07.480 --> 0:31:10.040
<v Speaker 2>So when the city came down on them and raided

0:31:10.040 --> 0:31:12.880
<v Speaker 2>them and everything came back on me because the building

0:31:12.920 --> 0:31:13.520
<v Speaker 2>was in my name.

0:31:13.680 --> 0:31:14.240
<v Speaker 1>Oh wow.

0:31:14.280 --> 0:31:16.680
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it was all on TMZ and everything. Little

0:31:16.680 --> 0:31:22.960
<v Speaker 2>Fizz caught selling marijuana. I'm like Jesus Christy, Yeah, but yeah,

0:31:23.880 --> 0:31:26.120
<v Speaker 2>that was that was mainly what I was doing for.

0:31:27.280 --> 0:31:29.120
<v Speaker 1>So you were on and you were you weren't just

0:31:29.160 --> 0:31:30.920
<v Speaker 1>an investor like you were hands on yeah.

0:31:31.520 --> 0:31:33.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. People will see me in the shops like, bro,

0:31:33.440 --> 0:31:37.360
<v Speaker 2>what you're doing in here? Yoh you the plug? I'm no, man,

0:31:37.440 --> 0:31:40.560
<v Speaker 2>it's a business. They didn't see it like that back then.

0:31:40.760 --> 0:31:42.520
<v Speaker 2>Like now you see it and you see it and

0:31:42.520 --> 0:31:44.840
<v Speaker 2>you respect it as a real business. You know. Back

0:31:44.880 --> 0:31:47.360
<v Speaker 2>then it was like everybody felt like I was just trapping.

0:31:47.720 --> 0:31:50.120
<v Speaker 2>But I'm like, man, I'm putting money into this, you

0:31:50.160 --> 0:31:53.160
<v Speaker 2>know what I mean. Like I went and got sellers,

0:31:53.200 --> 0:31:56.400
<v Speaker 2>promounced things with my name, wanting that let you know

0:31:56.440 --> 0:31:58.880
<v Speaker 2>I was really doing it, you know, aside from not

0:31:58.920 --> 0:32:01.520
<v Speaker 2>being able to have a business license per se. But

0:32:01.560 --> 0:32:04.320
<v Speaker 2>I was still trying to do it as legal as

0:32:04.320 --> 0:32:05.160
<v Speaker 2>I could. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>And is there a reason why the life expectancy on

0:32:09.840 --> 0:32:12.720
<v Speaker 1>those business was To me, they sound a little short

0:32:12.760 --> 0:32:14.600
<v Speaker 1>because it's like you said, one year or four.

0:32:14.480 --> 0:32:18.480
<v Speaker 2>Years, or because at that time it had no federal guidelines.

0:32:18.560 --> 0:32:21.400
<v Speaker 2>It was legal with state but not federally. So once

0:32:21.480 --> 0:32:24.400
<v Speaker 2>you got too big, like I remember when a shop

0:32:24.440 --> 0:32:27.720
<v Speaker 2>I had downtown got so big, I got a letter

0:32:27.720 --> 0:32:30.280
<v Speaker 2>from the US attorney telling me to close or they

0:32:30.320 --> 0:32:32.120
<v Speaker 2>were going to send the DA and in two weeks

0:32:32.120 --> 0:32:32.600
<v Speaker 2>to raise me.

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<v Speaker 1>What so I thought, But I thought it's still not

0:32:37.480 --> 0:32:40.160
<v Speaker 1>legal on a federal level because I heard that that's

0:32:40.200 --> 0:32:42.200
<v Speaker 1>why those shops can't have bank accounts.

0:32:42.240 --> 0:32:46.080
<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, so many loopholes in it. Now I'm out

0:32:46.120 --> 0:32:46.280
<v Speaker 2>of it.

0:32:46.360 --> 0:32:48.920
<v Speaker 1>Now, Okay, what made you end up closing up shop?

0:32:48.920 --> 0:32:58.840
<v Speaker 1>And then I have to know anytime an entrepreneur walks

0:32:58.920 --> 0:33:01.600
<v Speaker 1>away from a business or industry, you have to wonder,

0:33:01.680 --> 0:33:02.479
<v Speaker 1>like what happened?

0:33:02.600 --> 0:33:05.240
<v Speaker 2>It was time and I think, you know, God put

0:33:05.520 --> 0:33:08.960
<v Speaker 2>certain things in place for me to see and say,

0:33:09.080 --> 0:33:12.840
<v Speaker 2>you know it's time to move on. You're not the

0:33:12.880 --> 0:33:13.680
<v Speaker 2>answer you're looking for.

0:33:13.800 --> 0:33:16.320
<v Speaker 1>No, I would say this. Okay, a lot of people

0:33:16.360 --> 0:33:17.760
<v Speaker 1>don't know this. I may have said it on the

0:33:17.760 --> 0:33:20.000
<v Speaker 1>show a couple of times, but other guests that have

0:33:20.360 --> 0:33:23.640
<v Speaker 1>participated in this activity. But during the pandemic, I was

0:33:23.680 --> 0:33:27.560
<v Speaker 1>like freaking out and my business. I have a corporate

0:33:27.600 --> 0:33:32.040
<v Speaker 1>events company, and my business it was a pandemic. It

0:33:32.120 --> 0:33:34.640
<v Speaker 1>got annihilated in minutes, like it was like end of

0:33:34.680 --> 0:33:38.720
<v Speaker 1>my business instantly. And so I saw a lot of

0:33:38.760 --> 0:33:41.280
<v Speaker 1>the people Weed was like selling like crazy. So I

0:33:41.360 --> 0:33:44.560
<v Speaker 1>invested in Weed and then it was like going good.

0:33:45.600 --> 0:33:48.640
<v Speaker 1>And then we took a little bit of a legal turn,

0:33:49.200 --> 0:33:51.840
<v Speaker 1>and then I was like oh that a legal urn

0:33:51.880 --> 0:33:55.920
<v Speaker 1>may not so I try to pull out and I

0:33:55.920 --> 0:33:57.840
<v Speaker 1>still ended up losing a lot of money. I lost

0:33:57.880 --> 0:34:01.200
<v Speaker 1>a crazy amount of money, but most of it was

0:34:01.200 --> 0:34:03.040
<v Speaker 1>the profit that I was profit. I was just like

0:34:03.120 --> 0:34:05.320
<v Speaker 1>kind of letting it set so I didn't personally lose

0:34:05.400 --> 0:34:10.040
<v Speaker 1>as much as I lost my games. But it was

0:34:10.080 --> 0:34:12.120
<v Speaker 1>going good. And then it took like I said, it

0:34:12.160 --> 0:34:15.760
<v Speaker 1>took a little legal, illegal turn and then I was like, uh,

0:34:15.880 --> 0:34:17.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I don't think and it ended up

0:34:17.520 --> 0:34:19.320
<v Speaker 1>not ending well. I ended up losing all my money.

0:34:19.719 --> 0:34:23.080
<v Speaker 1>So just so you know, I've played and I got

0:34:23.120 --> 0:34:25.719
<v Speaker 1>out and that was my lesson. And let me tell

0:34:25.719 --> 0:34:28.919
<v Speaker 1>you something. The other people didn't get out as soon

0:34:28.960 --> 0:34:32.120
<v Speaker 1>as me and I promised you they was done for

0:34:32.200 --> 0:34:34.680
<v Speaker 1>good after that. They was like, I'm never touching that

0:34:34.719 --> 0:34:38.120
<v Speaker 1>industry cause it's very there's rules, and then it's so

0:34:38.200 --> 0:34:41.359
<v Speaker 1>easy to like fracture it or whatever. It just gets

0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:43.560
<v Speaker 1>a little. Yeah. So that's why I was out. But

0:34:43.600 --> 0:34:46.560
<v Speaker 1>I was only in for like probably like a year.

0:34:47.040 --> 0:34:49.399
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I was quick, man.

0:34:49.440 --> 0:34:51.960
<v Speaker 1>I was nervous the whole time. And I was like investor,

0:34:52.040 --> 0:34:53.839
<v Speaker 1>way back here, way back here.

0:34:54.640 --> 0:34:57.960
<v Speaker 2>So imagine being hands on over ten years.

0:34:58.160 --> 0:35:01.160
<v Speaker 1>Well, I will tell you this. The stuff I was doing.

0:35:02.200 --> 0:35:04.200
<v Speaker 1>I can say this because nobody's ever gonna but some

0:35:04.239 --> 0:35:06.440
<v Speaker 1>of the stuff I was doing was a little illegal.

0:35:06.800 --> 0:35:11.520
<v Speaker 1>But during the pandemic, I would fly look over at

0:35:11.520 --> 0:35:13.360
<v Speaker 1>the cameras like do you want to say that? I

0:35:13.400 --> 0:35:19.120
<v Speaker 1>would fly money, not over over on the airplanes or whatever.

0:35:19.280 --> 0:35:21.799
<v Speaker 1>But now I you know, I travel. When I had

0:35:21.800 --> 0:35:23.959
<v Speaker 1>a baby, I realized when you travel with breast milk,

0:35:24.000 --> 0:35:27.279
<v Speaker 1>they test everything. And I realized later like that was

0:35:27.400 --> 0:35:29.759
<v Speaker 1>very dangerous to fly with money, because you know weed,

0:35:29.800 --> 0:35:31.800
<v Speaker 1>money has like we smell.

0:35:33.560 --> 0:35:52.799
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I was during I promise that people don't know

0:35:52.920 --> 0:35:53.360
<v Speaker 4>me know that.

0:35:53.440 --> 0:35:56.080
<v Speaker 1>I was like, yo, I'm getting on this plane and

0:35:56.160 --> 0:35:57.719
<v Speaker 1>I would you know, I would be nervous as hell.

0:35:57.760 --> 0:35:59.440
<v Speaker 1>But I never flew with like nothing crazy like one

0:35:59.480 --> 0:36:01.960
<v Speaker 1>hundred k, but it was it was still enough to

0:36:01.960 --> 0:36:04.880
<v Speaker 1>be like, you know. But then I had a baby

0:36:04.960 --> 0:36:09.000
<v Speaker 1>and I realized that I was an idiot because with

0:36:09.080 --> 0:36:11.920
<v Speaker 1>a baby, they like test your breastmoke. They're like all

0:36:11.960 --> 0:36:16.160
<v Speaker 1>like swabbing everything, swabbing the child. I'm like, yo, only

0:36:16.200 --> 0:36:19.200
<v Speaker 1>they knew like before the breast smoke, you know, and

0:36:19.360 --> 0:36:20.920
<v Speaker 1>if they would have done that, I would have, we

0:36:20.960 --> 0:36:24.319
<v Speaker 1>would not be sitting here right now. But yeah, no,

0:36:24.400 --> 0:36:26.840
<v Speaker 1>that's why I got out, just so you know, sideon

0:36:27.440 --> 0:36:32.240
<v Speaker 1>all right, So anyways, you do this business, you exit

0:36:32.360 --> 0:36:33.839
<v Speaker 1>the last oh.

0:36:33.640 --> 0:36:36.880
<v Speaker 2>For the minorities and the people that do want to

0:36:37.320 --> 0:36:40.440
<v Speaker 2>try to get in. It's called social equity license. Oh

0:36:40.520 --> 0:36:43.160
<v Speaker 2>really yeah, social equity license. So if you look into it,

0:36:43.239 --> 0:36:45.280
<v Speaker 2>you can you know, I don't know if they're still

0:36:46.280 --> 0:36:49.080
<v Speaker 2>doing no more, if they're still available to apply for it,

0:36:49.120 --> 0:36:50.080
<v Speaker 2>but that's what it was.

0:36:50.120 --> 0:36:51.960
<v Speaker 1>So if you have like a beard to entry, you

0:36:52.000 --> 0:36:54.120
<v Speaker 1>can go there and they'll help you get the license.

0:36:54.280 --> 0:36:56.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you gotta go down to the city City Hall.

0:36:57.000 --> 0:37:02.480
<v Speaker 1>Social equity license. Thanks for remembering that. So after your

0:37:03.000 --> 0:37:06.160
<v Speaker 1>entrepreneurial thing is that when hip hop, love and hip

0:37:06.200 --> 0:37:07.240
<v Speaker 1>hop enters the scene.

0:37:07.719 --> 0:37:10.120
<v Speaker 2>When what love and hip hop enters is when what

0:37:10.160 --> 0:37:10.760
<v Speaker 2>you said.

0:37:10.560 --> 0:37:14.000
<v Speaker 1>When you're exiting, because you said there was no space where.

0:37:13.800 --> 0:37:15.479
<v Speaker 2>You were still still there.

0:37:15.840 --> 0:37:16.640
<v Speaker 1>Oh you were still there.

0:37:16.680 --> 0:37:19.600
<v Speaker 2>I didn't. I didn't fully get out till twenty eighteen,

0:37:19.880 --> 0:37:22.000
<v Speaker 2>and I had a whole case.

0:37:22.040 --> 0:37:24.799
<v Speaker 1>So that was right before the pandemic. Yeah you said

0:37:24.800 --> 0:37:25.960
<v Speaker 1>you had a whole what case?

0:37:26.719 --> 0:37:29.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I have my lawyers and everybody did a great

0:37:29.719 --> 0:37:33.560
<v Speaker 2>job at keeping that, you know, keeping that off off

0:37:33.640 --> 0:37:37.319
<v Speaker 2>the news and blogs, because I really did that was

0:37:37.960 --> 0:37:40.279
<v Speaker 2>I was. I was in court the whole time I

0:37:40.400 --> 0:37:44.560
<v Speaker 2>was on tour, the reunion tour. Oh really, yeah, yeah

0:37:44.600 --> 0:37:44.880
<v Speaker 2>I was.

0:37:45.200 --> 0:37:48.239
<v Speaker 1>Oh wait, so B two Kate was back. So you

0:37:48.320 --> 0:37:50.640
<v Speaker 1>were investing in these business, You were doing this business,

0:37:50.640 --> 0:37:53.080
<v Speaker 1>but you ended up going back to beat You guys

0:37:53.160 --> 0:37:54.080
<v Speaker 1>reunited for the.

0:37:54.200 --> 0:38:01.560
<v Speaker 2>Were reunited in twenty nineteen. So summer eighteen is when

0:38:01.600 --> 0:38:06.880
<v Speaker 2>I had my whole situation happened, and twenty nineteen is

0:38:06.920 --> 0:38:09.120
<v Speaker 2>when I started going to court for it. And I

0:38:09.160 --> 0:38:10.279
<v Speaker 2>was in court for like a year.

0:38:10.800 --> 0:38:11.040
<v Speaker 1>Ok.

0:38:11.400 --> 0:38:14.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So every time I'm on stage, I'm like, am

0:38:14.560 --> 0:38:16.480
<v Speaker 2>I going to jail tomorrow? Hold on?

0:38:16.600 --> 0:38:16.799
<v Speaker 1>Man?

0:38:17.719 --> 0:38:21.640
<v Speaker 2>So my dad's move is like faint, like this might

0:38:21.680 --> 0:38:22.560
<v Speaker 2>be my last show.

0:38:25.000 --> 0:38:26.960
<v Speaker 1>But and you weren't a dad at the time yet, right.

0:38:26.880 --> 0:38:29.399
<v Speaker 2>Yes you were, Yeah, my son was nine years old.

0:38:29.480 --> 0:38:33.560
<v Speaker 1>You were really like stressed, yeah during the reunion. But

0:38:33.680 --> 0:38:36.160
<v Speaker 1>you're now at this point, you're also generating money from

0:38:36.160 --> 0:38:39.000
<v Speaker 1>the tour, and I'm sure that's going to.

0:38:39.440 --> 0:38:42.279
<v Speaker 2>Court court yep, yep, lowyer all that.

0:38:42.880 --> 0:38:46.080
<v Speaker 1>Dang, So what are your pockets looking like during that era.

0:38:46.200 --> 0:38:49.480
<v Speaker 2>Still good, Still good. Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know

0:38:49.719 --> 0:38:52.920
<v Speaker 2>I had a lot going on from TV, the shops.

0:38:53.080 --> 0:38:55.600
<v Speaker 1>It sounds like you're also good at managing money at

0:38:55.600 --> 0:38:56.080
<v Speaker 1>this point.

0:38:56.160 --> 0:39:00.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, So I wouldn't say I would like, I

0:39:00.840 --> 0:39:02.000
<v Speaker 2>have never really.

0:39:01.760 --> 0:39:05.800
<v Speaker 1>Went broke after after that age. You never went broke.

0:39:05.600 --> 0:39:12.640
<v Speaker 2>Again after sh I never really went bro thank god.

0:39:16.719 --> 0:39:19.160
<v Speaker 2>But no, I mean there's there's still struggles, you know

0:39:19.239 --> 0:39:22.319
<v Speaker 2>what I mean, there's still struggles, and there's there's just

0:39:22.440 --> 0:39:26.319
<v Speaker 2>like you said, it's being smart. It's knowing when to

0:39:26.320 --> 0:39:29.640
<v Speaker 2>to start trimming down, you know, trimming the fact. You know,

0:39:29.719 --> 0:39:32.120
<v Speaker 2>if there's bills that are over here that are necessarily

0:39:32.120 --> 0:39:34.360
<v Speaker 2>you got to cut them off. You know, can't go

0:39:34.440 --> 0:39:37.640
<v Speaker 2>out to go to eat at mass Stros every weekend,

0:39:37.680 --> 0:39:39.160
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean, You got to scale back,

0:39:39.400 --> 0:39:41.879
<v Speaker 2>cook at home, you know what I mean. So it's

0:39:41.960 --> 0:39:46.840
<v Speaker 2>just all about being conscious of where you are, you know,

0:39:47.000 --> 0:39:50.240
<v Speaker 2>and where you can go, you know, not living beyond

0:39:50.239 --> 0:39:53.480
<v Speaker 2>your means. So I would say in the group, you know,

0:39:53.600 --> 0:39:55.799
<v Speaker 2>we did a lot of that to where if it

0:39:55.880 --> 0:39:59.319
<v Speaker 2>wasn't for me having money put up like I did

0:39:59.520 --> 0:40:02.399
<v Speaker 2>in my trust, you know, I could have been back

0:40:02.440 --> 0:40:05.160
<v Speaker 2>out here broke like that not knowing where to go

0:40:06.320 --> 0:40:08.640
<v Speaker 2>or being able to take the risk that I've taken.

0:40:09.880 --> 0:40:13.439
<v Speaker 1>So were you the youngest member in the group. Okay, yeah,

0:40:13.480 --> 0:40:17.040
<v Speaker 1>I feel like it's hard sometimes when you're that young

0:40:17.040 --> 0:40:19.279
<v Speaker 1>and you get exposed to money. I feel like there

0:40:19.280 --> 0:40:21.799
<v Speaker 1>could be a double edged sword where you end up

0:40:21.880 --> 0:40:25.160
<v Speaker 1>never really understanding how money works because you're used to

0:40:25.160 --> 0:40:28.279
<v Speaker 1>it coming and then maybe disappearing and coming, and it's

0:40:28.280 --> 0:40:31.359
<v Speaker 1>in lump sums versus like little.

0:40:31.920 --> 0:40:35.720
<v Speaker 2>Well see, my mindset was I was getting the little

0:40:35.719 --> 0:40:38.120
<v Speaker 2>increments and all the money was going in the trust.

0:40:38.560 --> 0:40:42.000
<v Speaker 2>Then the group broke up and it was broken up

0:40:42.040 --> 0:40:45.960
<v Speaker 2>for a few months and my trust open. Now it

0:40:46.120 --> 0:40:51.320
<v Speaker 2>was okay, I have money, but I don't have this group.

0:40:52.000 --> 0:40:54.960
<v Speaker 2>So what am I going to do? I have to invest.

0:40:55.000 --> 0:40:57.279
<v Speaker 2>I have to make my money work for me. So

0:40:57.320 --> 0:41:00.160
<v Speaker 2>that that's when the conversation came with my neighbor and

0:41:00.920 --> 0:41:03.799
<v Speaker 2>what we're doing with the shop, and can we open it?

0:41:03.840 --> 0:41:06.200
<v Speaker 2>Can I get in? Can I be an investor? How

0:41:06.200 --> 0:41:08.640
<v Speaker 2>does that look? What do I need to do? So

0:41:09.760 --> 0:41:10.600
<v Speaker 2>it worked out for me.

0:41:10.880 --> 0:41:14.280
<v Speaker 1>Very smart, very intuitive, natural entrepreneur.

0:41:14.280 --> 0:41:15.480
<v Speaker 2>I would say thank you.

0:41:16.200 --> 0:41:19.480
<v Speaker 1>So during so the twenty eighteen twenty nineteen, you have

0:41:19.520 --> 0:41:23.760
<v Speaker 1>the reunion. Take me to the next milestone in your life.

0:41:25.719 --> 0:41:31.000
<v Speaker 2>The next milestone would be, uh, coming off tour. It

0:41:31.040 --> 0:41:33.560
<v Speaker 2>was funny because it's like, now I'm done with the

0:41:33.600 --> 0:41:39.520
<v Speaker 2>whole cannabis business, right, and I'm coming off tour and

0:41:39.560 --> 0:41:44.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm still in court. And after I would say maybe

0:41:46.719 --> 0:41:50.080
<v Speaker 2>six months of being off the road, I had my

0:41:50.920 --> 0:41:56.719
<v Speaker 2>sentencing and I got off with no jail time, gratefully,

0:41:58.239 --> 0:42:02.759
<v Speaker 2>but I had probation and some work release, which is

0:42:02.800 --> 0:42:05.279
<v Speaker 2>like community service, but like you know, working on the

0:42:05.360 --> 0:42:08.680
<v Speaker 2>size of the freeway, chopping free. You had gotten island

0:42:08.719 --> 0:42:16.680
<v Speaker 2>sweeping saying yeah, nice time doing that. So after that,

0:42:18.000 --> 0:42:22.200
<v Speaker 2>once I was free of that and just had to

0:42:22.200 --> 0:42:26.000
<v Speaker 2>deal with probation, I was figuring out, you know what's next.

0:42:26.719 --> 0:42:30.520
<v Speaker 2>Obviously Loving hip Hop wasn't going on anymore? Oh said

0:42:30.560 --> 0:42:31.239
<v Speaker 2>the pandemic.

0:42:31.440 --> 0:42:33.640
<v Speaker 1>Okay, but you were at that point you had already

0:42:33.680 --> 0:42:35.960
<v Speaker 1>taped it. You had taped at least one season of it.

0:42:36.400 --> 0:42:39.399
<v Speaker 2>Of Love and Love and hip Hop started twenty fourteen. Oh,

0:42:39.480 --> 0:42:42.040
<v Speaker 2>so you were all I had done seven seasons of

0:42:42.120 --> 0:42:48.000
<v Speaker 2>Love and Hi. So in twenty twenty, when the pandemic

0:42:48.120 --> 0:42:53.200
<v Speaker 2>was going on, twenty yeah, twenty twenty the pandemic was happening.

0:42:53.600 --> 0:42:55.080
<v Speaker 2>I was trying to figure it out, but you know,

0:42:55.120 --> 0:43:02.479
<v Speaker 2>everybody was in the house. So I just started kind

0:43:02.480 --> 0:43:09.799
<v Speaker 2>of diving into everything from trying to figure out how

0:43:09.840 --> 0:43:13.520
<v Speaker 2>to produce shows, acting more. I ended up filming a

0:43:13.560 --> 0:43:17.600
<v Speaker 2>movie which is actually coming out next month, November twenty second.

0:43:17.680 --> 0:43:20.640
<v Speaker 2>It's called Run Nixon. It'll be in AMC theaters.

0:43:20.840 --> 0:43:23.839
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I've seen it on your social media. Yeah,

0:43:23.920 --> 0:43:25.240
<v Speaker 1>so Run Nixon.

0:43:25.800 --> 0:43:30.120
<v Speaker 2>I did the movie, started acting more, learning how to produce.

0:43:30.160 --> 0:43:35.120
<v Speaker 2>I actually produced on the movie as well. And I

0:43:35.160 --> 0:43:38.759
<v Speaker 2>was still doing music here and there, filling it out

0:43:38.800 --> 0:43:42.200
<v Speaker 2>more of like a hobby. And then I opened a restaurant.

0:43:42.400 --> 0:43:44.560
<v Speaker 2>I had the opportunity to get to open a restaurant.

0:43:45.239 --> 0:43:46.520
<v Speaker 1>This is before the pandemic.

0:43:46.640 --> 0:43:48.160
<v Speaker 2>This is during the pandemic.

0:43:48.239 --> 0:43:51.400
<v Speaker 1>During the pandemic. Yeah, oh my gosh, take me to that.

0:43:51.880 --> 0:43:56.719
<v Speaker 2>So I a friend of mine, my lawyer, a friend

0:43:56.760 --> 0:44:00.200
<v Speaker 2>of my lawyers had a restaurant. He had multiple restaurant

0:44:00.440 --> 0:44:03.879
<v Speaker 2>and being at the pandemic had happened, he didn't want

0:44:03.880 --> 0:44:06.200
<v Speaker 2>to close them all, but he had to trim down.

0:44:07.719 --> 0:44:11.000
<v Speaker 2>So it was an opportunity for me to take over

0:44:11.040 --> 0:44:14.200
<v Speaker 2>one of the restaurants, which I did. I rebranded it

0:44:14.280 --> 0:44:18.719
<v Speaker 2>called it Druze Louisiana French Quarters. It was in Westwood,

0:44:18.760 --> 0:44:21.319
<v Speaker 2>beautiful location, right by UCLA.

0:44:22.719 --> 0:44:22.879
<v Speaker 1>And.

0:44:25.680 --> 0:44:27.759
<v Speaker 2>I just kind of jumped in it, you know, Like

0:44:27.800 --> 0:44:29.960
<v Speaker 2>I said, it was during the pandemic, so I jumped

0:44:29.960 --> 0:44:33.200
<v Speaker 2>in it, like let's just see what it does. And

0:44:35.000 --> 0:44:37.680
<v Speaker 2>early I had a lot of people coming in, but

0:44:37.920 --> 0:44:40.520
<v Speaker 2>of course it slows down. It's a restaurant, you gotta like,

0:44:41.239 --> 0:44:43.799
<v Speaker 2>it's so many different things that go into a restaurant

0:44:43.880 --> 0:44:47.440
<v Speaker 2>with marketing and getting people to come in from Yelp reviews,

0:44:47.520 --> 0:44:50.799
<v Speaker 2>and it's just a whole lot. So I'm going through

0:44:50.840 --> 0:44:53.480
<v Speaker 2>it and trying to figure out how to make turnover

0:44:53.520 --> 0:44:57.400
<v Speaker 2>a profit. Of course, in restaurant businesses, it doesn't happen

0:44:57.480 --> 0:44:59.879
<v Speaker 2>like that. It takes at least a year or two to.

0:45:01.440 --> 0:45:05.160
<v Speaker 1>Break even wow, or will even create that stability of

0:45:05.239 --> 0:45:06.320
<v Speaker 1>understanding that flow.

0:45:06.200 --> 0:45:13.680
<v Speaker 2>Right, And so my brain and working how it works

0:45:13.719 --> 0:45:17.480
<v Speaker 2>like very fast and always trying to figure out the

0:45:17.480 --> 0:45:20.040
<v Speaker 2>next idea or the next move to keep it going.

0:45:23.280 --> 0:45:27.160
<v Speaker 2>When I opened the restaurant and I put the restaurant

0:45:27.280 --> 0:45:32.280
<v Speaker 2>on grub Hub, uber each door Dash, I started seeing

0:45:32.320 --> 0:45:38.040
<v Speaker 2>it like one of my dispensaries. So with the dispensaries,

0:45:38.360 --> 0:45:43.120
<v Speaker 2>I would always promote and put my shops on weed Maps.

0:45:43.600 --> 0:45:47.120
<v Speaker 2>Weed Maps is a website or an app that gives

0:45:47.400 --> 0:45:52.000
<v Speaker 2>all the patients and customers access to where each of

0:45:52.000 --> 0:45:55.399
<v Speaker 2>the shops are. And so how it works is you'll

0:45:55.440 --> 0:45:59.719
<v Speaker 2>go to a certain region in your state and it'll

0:45:59.760 --> 0:46:02.719
<v Speaker 2>show you all the shops in that region, and it's

0:46:02.760 --> 0:46:05.760
<v Speaker 2>like a list. It looks like grub Hub or uber

0:46:05.800 --> 0:46:08.560
<v Speaker 2>eats or door Dash. So when I'm on this and

0:46:08.600 --> 0:46:12.200
<v Speaker 2>I got my restaurant on there, I said, I wonder

0:46:12.239 --> 0:46:16.359
<v Speaker 2>if I could do something different with this. And at

0:46:16.400 --> 0:46:20.840
<v Speaker 2>the time, I had seen something called ghost kitchens where

0:46:20.960 --> 0:46:25.960
<v Speaker 2>people would create these virtual restaurants and only post it

0:46:26.000 --> 0:46:28.440
<v Speaker 2>on grub Hub or uber Eats, and you would be

0:46:28.440 --> 0:46:30.520
<v Speaker 2>able to order it through that, but you couldn't go

0:46:30.600 --> 0:46:31.800
<v Speaker 2>to a physical location.

0:46:32.719 --> 0:46:34.120
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I didn't even know that.

0:46:34.960 --> 0:46:38.120
<v Speaker 2>So when I seen that, I said, that's how I

0:46:38.160 --> 0:46:44.799
<v Speaker 2>do it. So I basically created five virtual restaurants. One

0:46:44.920 --> 0:46:49.520
<v Speaker 2>was called La Soul Tacos. I had Trus Louisiana, of course,

0:46:49.560 --> 0:46:55.040
<v Speaker 2>which was the actual standing restaurant. I had Maxwell's Polish Dogs.

0:46:55.920 --> 0:46:59.360
<v Speaker 2>I had Veggie Buns, which was all vegetarian food, and

0:46:59.400 --> 0:47:02.680
<v Speaker 2>then I had, uh, what was the last one?

0:47:04.320 --> 0:47:06.000
<v Speaker 1>And you came up with all this on your own.

0:47:06.200 --> 0:47:10.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and damn what was the other restaurant? It was

0:47:10.400 --> 0:47:14.640
<v Speaker 2>one more restaurant I had, Oh, uh, go Wings, now

0:47:14.680 --> 0:47:18.920
<v Speaker 2>Wings stop go Wings. So I had those five restaurants

0:47:19.239 --> 0:47:22.239
<v Speaker 2>and I had them all on grub Hub, door Dash,

0:47:22.400 --> 0:47:27.280
<v Speaker 2>Uber Eats. Uh, what's the other one? Grubhub, door Dash,

0:47:27.360 --> 0:47:28.279
<v Speaker 2>Uber eats, and.

0:47:31.280 --> 0:47:32.440
<v Speaker 1>Door Dash.

0:47:32.520 --> 0:47:36.480
<v Speaker 2>I said, door Dash, grub Hub, uber eats, and it's

0:47:36.480 --> 0:47:36.919
<v Speaker 2>one more.

0:47:38.960 --> 0:47:40.320
<v Speaker 1>Basically all the food apps.

0:47:40.400 --> 0:47:42.839
<v Speaker 2>So I took all the food apps. I put all

0:47:42.960 --> 0:47:44.160
<v Speaker 2>my restaurants.

0:47:43.680 --> 0:47:46.000
<v Speaker 1>And these are all ghosts most of them. All four

0:47:46.040 --> 0:47:47.080
<v Speaker 1>of them are ghost.

0:47:46.920 --> 0:47:51.479
<v Speaker 2>Kitchens except one. So now not only are you going

0:47:51.560 --> 0:47:55.560
<v Speaker 2>to these apps to order food, you're ordering from five

0:47:55.640 --> 0:47:59.360
<v Speaker 2>of my restaurants. So now I'm not banking on one restaurant.

0:47:59.400 --> 0:48:02.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm banking on on five different ones with five different.

0:48:02.360 --> 0:48:06.840
<v Speaker 1>Foods, and then five different ghostly one location, but one location,

0:48:06.960 --> 0:48:09.239
<v Speaker 1>but the ghost location could be anywhere, right, I mean

0:48:09.280 --> 0:48:10.799
<v Speaker 1>like when they pull it up on the map, are

0:48:10.840 --> 0:48:12.080
<v Speaker 1>they is it close to their house?

0:48:12.440 --> 0:48:16.880
<v Speaker 2>The ghost location gives you an address to pick for

0:48:17.000 --> 0:48:20.239
<v Speaker 2>the delivery drivers to pick the food up. They would

0:48:20.239 --> 0:48:21.719
<v Speaker 2>come to Drus Louisiana.

0:48:22.040 --> 0:48:22.560
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

0:48:23.120 --> 0:48:26.200
<v Speaker 2>So instead of banking on Drews Louisiana to do what

0:48:26.239 --> 0:48:28.920
<v Speaker 2>I needed to do, Now I'm getting five calls for

0:48:28.960 --> 0:48:32.120
<v Speaker 2>this restaurant, twenty for this one, fifteen for this one.

0:48:32.640 --> 0:48:35.840
<v Speaker 2>And it got to be so much that I overwhelmed myself.

0:48:36.840 --> 0:48:41.080
<v Speaker 2>And now I'm in there helping the cooks cook myself. No. Yeah,

0:48:41.080 --> 0:48:43.040
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, bro, I didn't sign up for this.

0:48:43.320 --> 0:48:46.040
<v Speaker 2>Like it's a great ideas, doing what it's supposed to do,

0:48:46.120 --> 0:48:48.839
<v Speaker 2>but this is a lot of work. I'm going to

0:48:48.880 --> 0:48:53.560
<v Speaker 2>the restaurant depot buying, running out of this sour cream

0:48:53.640 --> 0:48:55.799
<v Speaker 2>might about to be about to expire. And I got

0:48:56.040 --> 0:48:58.520
<v Speaker 2>health department coming tomorrow, and I got to have everything

0:48:58.560 --> 0:49:01.439
<v Speaker 2>in it in there with no expiration dates, all good

0:49:01.480 --> 0:49:06.320
<v Speaker 2>expiration dates. I got to make sure the meats are frozen,

0:49:06.400 --> 0:49:09.000
<v Speaker 2>the fishes frozen, it's in the freezer. This part, like,

0:49:09.120 --> 0:49:11.040
<v Speaker 2>it was a lot to deal with. And I'm doing

0:49:11.040 --> 0:49:17.359
<v Speaker 2>it do loo with a few employees. So building it up,

0:49:17.360 --> 0:49:20.920
<v Speaker 2>building it up. It's getting better. But then the pandemic

0:49:21.000 --> 0:49:25.759
<v Speaker 2>hit back again. We had the second rise and I

0:49:25.800 --> 0:49:29.520
<v Speaker 2>was in the UCLA Health Building and they came down

0:49:29.520 --> 0:49:35.200
<v Speaker 2>and were like, got to shut down the food in here. Why, Well,

0:49:35.360 --> 0:49:40.440
<v Speaker 2>one thing was for sure, I didn't feel it. I

0:49:40.440 --> 0:49:43.279
<v Speaker 2>felt a certain way about getting a vaccine, and a

0:49:43.320 --> 0:49:45.439
<v Speaker 2>lot of my employees didn't want to get it. So

0:49:45.719 --> 0:49:48.600
<v Speaker 2>being that we weren't vaccinated, they're like, y'all got to

0:49:48.600 --> 0:49:49.440
<v Speaker 2>get out this building.

0:49:50.040 --> 0:49:53.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So, but what an amazing Okay, I just have

0:49:53.880 --> 0:49:57.480
<v Speaker 1>to highlight this pivot because my favorite person the interview

0:49:57.520 --> 0:49:59.920
<v Speaker 1>on this show is entrepreneurs. Believe it or not, If

0:50:00.200 --> 0:50:02.839
<v Speaker 1>choose between celebrities, influence and entrepreneurs, I'm all, I'm all

0:50:02.880 --> 0:50:07.560
<v Speaker 1>about entrepreneurs. But your pivot game being hinted like taking

0:50:07.600 --> 0:50:10.880
<v Speaker 1>over this business but figuring out a way to create

0:50:11.800 --> 0:50:17.120
<v Speaker 1>more business and market it was simply outstandingly genius. Like

0:50:17.239 --> 0:50:19.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna take that and make it into a clip

0:50:19.719 --> 0:50:23.799
<v Speaker 1>and send it to like, you know, hopefully restaurants everybody

0:50:23.800 --> 0:50:27.600
<v Speaker 1>takes games because that is the most genius innovative thing

0:50:27.680 --> 0:50:30.200
<v Speaker 1>I've ever heard. And even when you pay attention to

0:50:30.239 --> 0:50:33.600
<v Speaker 1>the way, you didn't, I gotta highlight this. You chose

0:50:33.640 --> 0:50:37.080
<v Speaker 1>different types of food, you chose wings, you chose veggies,

0:50:37.160 --> 0:50:39.839
<v Speaker 1>Like you covered all the basics of and did you

0:50:39.920 --> 0:50:43.279
<v Speaker 1>actually think about that, Like, yeah, covering all the that

0:50:43.400 --> 0:50:44.640
<v Speaker 1>is because.

0:50:44.480 --> 0:50:47.840
<v Speaker 2>Not everybody sea food, not everybody eats veggie food, not

0:50:47.960 --> 0:50:51.799
<v Speaker 2>everybody's not impressed with your own works like this.

0:50:51.920 --> 0:50:54.600
<v Speaker 1>But were you not sitting there, like I would have

0:50:54.600 --> 0:50:56.800
<v Speaker 1>been called like, yess not much of a g I

0:50:57.000 --> 0:50:59.160
<v Speaker 1>n look what I did, Like, you don't do that?

0:50:59.480 --> 0:51:00.560
<v Speaker 2>No, I do that.

0:51:00.680 --> 0:51:04.040
<v Speaker 1>If I have a simple hack and I feel like

0:51:04.200 --> 0:51:08.160
<v Speaker 1>I like somehow crack the cold on geniusness, I would

0:51:08.200 --> 0:51:11.560
<v Speaker 1>be texting all my friends like, yo, you'll never guess

0:51:11.600 --> 0:51:13.400
<v Speaker 1>what I was able to accomplish. And you didn't do that,

0:51:13.400 --> 0:51:17.520
<v Speaker 1>That's amazing. I'm the opposite. I wasn't fucking Billboard of

0:51:17.520 --> 0:51:17.799
<v Speaker 1>the Year.

0:51:17.840 --> 0:51:21.840
<v Speaker 2>I'd be right, my circles real small. And then it's

0:51:21.960 --> 0:51:24.719
<v Speaker 2>like if my boys hit me and it's like, yo, man,

0:51:24.760 --> 0:51:27.000
<v Speaker 2>what you're doing with this? This is super dope? Can

0:51:27.040 --> 0:51:29.120
<v Speaker 2>I get in? I'm always yeah, come on.

0:51:29.520 --> 0:51:33.040
<v Speaker 1>Wow, let's do it. But that was that. It was

0:51:33.320 --> 0:51:39.359
<v Speaker 1>probably the most dopest pivot game I've ever seen. And

0:51:39.520 --> 0:51:41.799
<v Speaker 1>it was during the pandemic. You really had to think

0:51:41.840 --> 0:51:44.000
<v Speaker 1>out of the box. Some people will quit, believe it

0:51:44.080 --> 0:51:45.759
<v Speaker 1>or not, a lot of people will quit under that

0:51:45.800 --> 0:51:47.759
<v Speaker 1>type of pressure, and a lot of people wouldn't be

0:51:47.800 --> 0:51:50.200
<v Speaker 1>running around, you know, trying to find the sour cream

0:51:50.280 --> 0:51:54.239
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. So kudos to you. You're so extreme entrepreneur,

0:51:54.640 --> 0:51:57.120
<v Speaker 1>so exciting. I did not know that about you. So

0:51:57.200 --> 0:52:01.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm really more hyped right now. But that's cool, all right,

0:52:01.880 --> 0:52:04.520
<v Speaker 1>So take so keep going with your story.

0:52:07.760 --> 0:52:13.080
<v Speaker 2>Man, there's so many things after that. I had a

0:52:13.120 --> 0:52:19.640
<v Speaker 2>home that I bought in in Porter Ranch, and I

0:52:19.760 --> 0:52:26.200
<v Speaker 2>leased it out because I was running everything. Like with

0:52:26.239 --> 0:52:30.239
<v Speaker 2>the restaurants, we ended up closing that down, and at

0:52:30.239 --> 0:52:34.720
<v Speaker 2>that time, I have my home, I'm helping my mom's

0:52:34.800 --> 0:52:40.919
<v Speaker 2>with her home, and now I have to figure out

0:52:40.920 --> 0:52:44.920
<v Speaker 2>ways to scale down, trim back. So I leased out

0:52:44.960 --> 0:52:51.719
<v Speaker 2>my house, got something a little smaller, and I was

0:52:51.719 --> 0:52:57.320
<v Speaker 2>in a space of trying to figure out what was next.

0:52:58.280 --> 0:53:03.319
<v Speaker 2>So I, like I said, during the pandemic, besides the

0:53:03.360 --> 0:53:07.480
<v Speaker 2>restaurant and music and film, I was also learning to produce.

0:53:08.320 --> 0:53:13.400
<v Speaker 2>So I wanted to figure out a way to produce

0:53:13.440 --> 0:53:16.320
<v Speaker 2>a show, but one that made sense, and I wanted

0:53:16.360 --> 0:53:18.920
<v Speaker 2>to do something that involved my son because now my

0:53:19.000 --> 0:53:22.920
<v Speaker 2>son is older and he's controlling my life.

0:53:23.800 --> 0:53:25.600
<v Speaker 1>So what do you mean, scare me? Tell me, what

0:53:25.640 --> 0:53:26.160
<v Speaker 1>does that mean?

0:53:27.520 --> 0:53:31.880
<v Speaker 2>Every day? Of course, there's school, but then after school

0:53:31.920 --> 0:53:36.000
<v Speaker 2>there's basketball practice, after practice or before basketball practice, there's

0:53:36.040 --> 0:53:39.239
<v Speaker 2>basketball training, after training, nurse practice. Then we're back home.

0:53:39.320 --> 0:53:42.840
<v Speaker 2>Then we're homework and study, then dinner, cooking dinner.

0:53:42.560 --> 0:53:47.719
<v Speaker 5>And then I'm like a single dad, right, Me and

0:53:47.719 --> 0:53:53.239
<v Speaker 5>a mom are joint joint custody. So mostly every other week,

0:53:53.320 --> 0:53:57.719
<v Speaker 5>you know, he's with me, but I'm the dad and

0:53:57.760 --> 0:54:02.239
<v Speaker 5>he's in puberty stage, so he's with me, now, you

0:54:02.320 --> 0:54:04.239
<v Speaker 5>know what I mean, Like, yeah, you can go.

0:54:05.400 --> 0:54:07.359
<v Speaker 2>Mom wants to see you. You want to see mom,

0:54:07.400 --> 0:54:09.279
<v Speaker 2>hang out, go y'all, do y'all thing. You know what

0:54:09.320 --> 0:54:12.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying. I'm never gonna not let you see your mother.

0:54:12.040 --> 0:54:13.439
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying. You always see your mom,

0:54:13.440 --> 0:54:16.439
<v Speaker 2>but in these crucial stages, you need to be with me. Yeah,

0:54:16.440 --> 0:54:20.720
<v Speaker 2>you know. So every day from the type of school

0:54:20.719 --> 0:54:22.879
<v Speaker 2>he goes to a prep school. I drop him off

0:54:22.880 --> 0:54:25.200
<v Speaker 2>at the gym in the morning. They train for three hours,

0:54:25.239 --> 0:54:27.239
<v Speaker 2>then they get busted to school in the sprinter van

0:54:27.760 --> 0:54:30.440
<v Speaker 2>and they have lunch. Then they do school for three hours,

0:54:30.920 --> 0:54:34.680
<v Speaker 2>no homework. After that we're training. After training, he has

0:54:34.760 --> 0:54:37.680
<v Speaker 2>practiced two times a week after that, it's games on

0:54:37.719 --> 0:54:38.960
<v Speaker 2>the weekend tournaments.

0:54:40.040 --> 0:54:45.560
<v Speaker 1>He's definitely controlling your life, is him? Just to backtrack

0:54:45.600 --> 0:54:47.960
<v Speaker 1>a little bit, I know we talked about your mom.

0:54:48.200 --> 0:54:49.239
<v Speaker 2>You are very.

0:54:49.239 --> 0:54:51.719
<v Speaker 1>Much even when you watch love and Half Hop, but

0:54:51.760 --> 0:54:55.040
<v Speaker 1>you see your very vested dad. Is there? What is

0:54:55.080 --> 0:54:57.359
<v Speaker 1>your relationship with your dad? Is there a reason why

0:54:57.400 --> 0:55:00.040
<v Speaker 1>you're I'm not saying all men aren't vested, but I'm no,

0:55:00.800 --> 0:55:01.920
<v Speaker 1>it's definitely noticeable.

0:55:02.480 --> 0:55:04.520
<v Speaker 2>Well, I didn't meet my father until I was thirteen,

0:55:05.280 --> 0:55:10.239
<v Speaker 2>so I always had this thing where I had a

0:55:10.360 --> 0:55:13.759
<v Speaker 2>vision of what a father looked like and what I

0:55:13.800 --> 0:55:17.440
<v Speaker 2>wanted my father to be like. And I made a

0:55:17.440 --> 0:55:19.319
<v Speaker 2>promise to myself, you know, if I ever have a

0:55:19.400 --> 0:55:21.920
<v Speaker 2>kid or something, he's never going to experience what I

0:55:22.000 --> 0:55:25.480
<v Speaker 2>experienced growing up in wanting and trying to imagine what

0:55:25.520 --> 0:55:27.920
<v Speaker 2>it's like to have a father in his life. So

0:55:29.120 --> 0:55:33.800
<v Speaker 2>when he got here, I just I was already setting stone,

0:55:33.920 --> 0:55:38.799
<v Speaker 2>like this is my son, you know, regardless, Like I'm

0:55:38.840 --> 0:55:43.279
<v Speaker 2>gonna be there no matter what. I'll go broke, I'll

0:55:43.320 --> 0:55:46.080
<v Speaker 2>eat while I broke, as long as I'm in his life,

0:55:46.160 --> 0:55:49.360
<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying. So trying to figure it

0:55:49.400 --> 0:55:54.200
<v Speaker 2>out what's next, And like I said, everything is basketball.

0:55:54.560 --> 0:55:56.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm in the gym with him twenty four to seven,

0:55:56.760 --> 0:56:03.680
<v Speaker 2>so I'm noticing. One night I'm telling him, YO, turn

0:56:03.760 --> 0:56:06.360
<v Speaker 2>TV off, go to bed. So I walk in this

0:56:06.480 --> 0:56:08.360
<v Speaker 2>room he was sleep and I go to turn the

0:56:08.400 --> 0:56:12.520
<v Speaker 2>TV off, and it was this YouTube show he watches.

0:56:13.080 --> 0:56:16.080
<v Speaker 2>And all these shows he watches on YouTube are based

0:56:16.120 --> 0:56:20.680
<v Speaker 2>on basketball, from a channel called Overtime, Elite, to Ball,

0:56:20.800 --> 0:56:24.920
<v Speaker 2>his Life, to Switch Cultures, just everything you can think

0:56:24.960 --> 0:56:28.600
<v Speaker 2>of basketball related he's watching. But this particular night, he

0:56:28.640 --> 0:56:34.680
<v Speaker 2>has on a show on Overtime called Fear Nothing. It's

0:56:34.719 --> 0:56:38.600
<v Speaker 2>a show based on Mikey Williams's journey from high school

0:56:38.600 --> 0:56:45.279
<v Speaker 2>basketball to wherever he's going, and he watches this. He

0:56:45.320 --> 0:56:48.359
<v Speaker 2>watched the show a whole lot at this time, and

0:56:48.440 --> 0:56:51.360
<v Speaker 2>I looked at it and I had to Things just

0:56:51.440 --> 0:56:54.480
<v Speaker 2>hit my brain and I said, that's it. I'm sorry.

0:56:54.680 --> 0:56:57.600
<v Speaker 2>I said, that's it. That's what I need. That's what

0:56:57.719 --> 0:57:02.560
<v Speaker 2>I need to produce a show doing youth high school

0:57:02.600 --> 0:57:09.160
<v Speaker 2>basketball that doesn't just highlight one player, but highlights all

0:57:09.200 --> 0:57:11.600
<v Speaker 2>of the kids and gives it like a sports center

0:57:11.640 --> 0:57:14.600
<v Speaker 2>fit to where they could watch this and feel like

0:57:14.800 --> 0:57:17.800
<v Speaker 2>I might be on here tonight. Yeah, because they don't

0:57:17.800 --> 0:57:22.439
<v Speaker 2>have that. So I created this show called Youth Got Game.

0:57:23.000 --> 0:57:25.440
<v Speaker 1>Youth Got Game and they can get it on YouTuber.

0:57:25.680 --> 0:57:29.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, so our first episode is be coming out

0:57:29.800 --> 0:57:30.920
<v Speaker 2>in the next month or so.

0:57:31.360 --> 0:57:32.160
<v Speaker 1>Okay, But.

0:57:34.480 --> 0:57:38.760
<v Speaker 2>Got into that and started networking, got the right people

0:57:38.800 --> 0:57:42.080
<v Speaker 2>on the team, and now we'll be hosting like all

0:57:42.120 --> 0:57:46.720
<v Speaker 2>the top Nike tournaments. Wow, all the So it's like

0:57:46.800 --> 0:57:48.840
<v Speaker 2>May Hoops camps will be hosting those.

0:57:50.080 --> 0:57:52.600
<v Speaker 1>Is your son really turns like crowd and excited about

0:57:52.640 --> 0:57:55.800
<v Speaker 1>what you were able to do? Just it's kind of

0:57:55.840 --> 0:57:59.120
<v Speaker 1>like he inspired this, right, So does he say it

0:57:59.240 --> 0:58:01.160
<v Speaker 1>or does he talk about it or not?

0:58:01.280 --> 0:58:03.680
<v Speaker 2>Really, he's just focused on playing the game. You want

0:58:03.680 --> 0:58:06.200
<v Speaker 2>to see hisself on the show. He knows that with me,

0:58:06.640 --> 0:58:08.760
<v Speaker 2>he's gonna have to work really hard and do what

0:58:08.800 --> 0:58:10.720
<v Speaker 2>he's supposed to do. It's not gonna just be oh,

0:58:10.720 --> 0:58:13.280
<v Speaker 2>you're and my son, I'm putting you on. So it's

0:58:13.320 --> 0:58:14.120
<v Speaker 2>more of a challenge.

0:58:14.160 --> 0:58:14.320
<v Speaker 1>Now.

0:58:15.160 --> 0:58:17.360
<v Speaker 2>I put him up to the challenge. He accepted it,

0:58:17.520 --> 0:58:19.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, So you got to put in the work.

0:58:19.600 --> 0:58:19.960
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

0:58:21.800 --> 0:58:27.280
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, so put together that show. We got a

0:58:27.280 --> 0:58:29.479
<v Speaker 2>couple of big things coming up for us. We're doing

0:58:29.480 --> 0:58:34.040
<v Speaker 2>a camp in Charlotte with this company, cyber Athletics.

0:58:34.080 --> 0:58:35.880
<v Speaker 1>You're doing a basketball client camp camp.

0:58:35.960 --> 0:58:38.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we'll be hosting it our podcast.

0:58:39.920 --> 0:58:43.000
<v Speaker 1>Wait, the show is a podcast, and I guess I'm

0:58:43.040 --> 0:58:45.320
<v Speaker 1>kind of visioning like reality slash.

0:58:45.440 --> 0:58:46.520
<v Speaker 2>It's a live podcast.

0:58:46.520 --> 0:58:47.480
<v Speaker 1>It's a live podcast.

0:58:47.600 --> 0:58:51.080
<v Speaker 2>Okay, got it. And we have guests on the show,

0:58:51.480 --> 0:58:56.800
<v Speaker 2>you know, from younger athletes, to coaches, to referees to

0:58:57.280 --> 0:59:00.720
<v Speaker 2>professional past and future and players.

0:59:01.160 --> 0:59:03.360
<v Speaker 1>I love it. Yeah, that's pretty awesome.

0:59:04.040 --> 0:59:07.520
<v Speaker 2>So that's that's what I've been on now. And in

0:59:07.520 --> 0:59:12.320
<v Speaker 2>the process of that, I actually took on a team.

0:59:12.480 --> 0:59:16.400
<v Speaker 2>I created a travel team from my son because we

0:59:16.400 --> 0:59:19.440
<v Speaker 2>were doing all these games and we were with a

0:59:19.440 --> 0:59:22.760
<v Speaker 2>couple programs that I felt like could be doing more

0:59:22.960 --> 0:59:26.240
<v Speaker 2>and not necessarily be much as much of a money grab.

0:59:28.880 --> 0:59:33.040
<v Speaker 2>So I ended up starting my own team and got

0:59:33.520 --> 0:59:36.080
<v Speaker 2>all my son's friends who I know could really hoop,

0:59:36.840 --> 0:59:40.440
<v Speaker 2>and one of my friends who coaches high school basketball,

0:59:41.080 --> 0:59:43.320
<v Speaker 2>and put them all together. We started a team East

0:59:43.360 --> 0:59:47.880
<v Speaker 2>West Prospects, and we went this summer and smashed through

0:59:47.920 --> 0:59:51.600
<v Speaker 2>all the tournaments, won all of them that we joined, literally,

0:59:52.160 --> 0:59:54.920
<v Speaker 2>and I had a bunch of sixth graders turning seventh

0:59:54.960 --> 0:59:58.640
<v Speaker 2>graders who played against eighth and ninth graders and we

0:59:58.640 --> 1:00:02.840
<v Speaker 2>were winning everything. Wo. So that started happening. I started

1:00:02.840 --> 1:00:09.160
<v Speaker 2>getting calls from like top program directors from Compton Magic

1:00:09.280 --> 1:00:14.080
<v Speaker 2>or why not these are programs ran by These are

1:00:14.120 --> 1:00:17.360
<v Speaker 2>top programs that were put together that are sponsored by

1:00:17.400 --> 1:00:21.120
<v Speaker 2>like Adidas and Nike and NBA players, Like why not

1:00:21.240 --> 1:00:26.680
<v Speaker 2>its Russell Westbrook program. Compton Magic is a staple in LA,

1:00:26.720 --> 1:00:29.160
<v Speaker 2>has been around since I was a kid, you know,

1:00:30.240 --> 1:00:33.360
<v Speaker 2>And they have players who've come from their programs to

1:00:33.400 --> 1:00:36.960
<v Speaker 2>play professional basketball. We're in the NBA today. So all

1:00:36.960 --> 1:00:41.680
<v Speaker 2>these programs are calling me now trying to combine.

1:00:40.960 --> 1:00:43.480
<v Speaker 1>And when to get behind East West.

1:00:43.600 --> 1:00:48.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Wow. So one of my friends and I knew

1:00:48.400 --> 1:00:52.600
<v Speaker 2>since I was like seventeen eighteen, he's cousins with Paul

1:00:52.680 --> 1:00:55.840
<v Speaker 2>George and he runs the program for Paul George Elite,

1:00:56.360 --> 1:01:00.000
<v Speaker 2>and we had talked and we was like, yo, man,

1:01:00.040 --> 1:01:03.760
<v Speaker 2>and I want you to bring your boy, Like how

1:01:03.840 --> 1:01:05.960
<v Speaker 2>much it's gonna cost me to get your boy back

1:01:05.960 --> 1:01:08.320
<v Speaker 2>over here? Talking about my son? And I'm like, man,

1:01:08.400 --> 1:01:10.560
<v Speaker 2>let's you know, let's have a conversation. Let's talk and

1:01:10.600 --> 1:01:13.240
<v Speaker 2>see what we can come up with. Basically, he gave

1:01:13.280 --> 1:01:15.640
<v Speaker 2>me the keys to run the seventh grade program at

1:01:15.680 --> 1:01:18.760
<v Speaker 2>Paul George Leaks. So now we're sponsored by Nike, playing

1:01:18.760 --> 1:01:20.280
<v Speaker 2>on all the top platforms.

1:01:20.560 --> 1:01:23.480
<v Speaker 1>So, but does your son leave your East West team.

1:01:23.320 --> 1:01:27.480
<v Speaker 2>To So East West is now Paul George.

1:01:26.800 --> 1:01:29.200
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So now it's official. So you guys have been

1:01:29.480 --> 1:01:33.520
<v Speaker 1>accepted as an official under that umbrella. Yep, okay, So

1:01:33.520 --> 1:01:35.320
<v Speaker 1>son is still on the team. Damn, I want to

1:01:35.320 --> 1:01:37.040
<v Speaker 1>watch these games. He got me hyped.

1:01:37.200 --> 1:01:42.080
<v Speaker 2>So yep, we did that, and you know, constantly filming

1:01:42.160 --> 1:01:44.240
<v Speaker 2>on them as well, highlighting now and then.

1:01:44.680 --> 1:01:47.120
<v Speaker 1>Is it hard to get all those parental clearances or

1:01:47.160 --> 1:01:49.120
<v Speaker 1>is it like everyone you you built such a good

1:01:49.200 --> 1:01:53.360
<v Speaker 1>rapport with everybody that everyone just sign and releases. As

1:01:53.400 --> 1:01:55.560
<v Speaker 1>for what, oh, I thought you're you highlight the kids

1:01:55.560 --> 1:01:56.040
<v Speaker 1>on the show.

1:01:56.920 --> 1:01:59.320
<v Speaker 2>I will if they're doing they thing, you know what

1:01:59.360 --> 1:02:02.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying, But that anybody can be highlighted, it does.

1:02:02.400 --> 1:02:06.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't need parental Oh I don't know. Highlight somebody's

1:02:06.360 --> 1:02:08.360
<v Speaker 2>kid that's doing what they should be doing on the court.

1:02:08.520 --> 1:02:11.680
<v Speaker 2>You know, that's just giving them more exposure. Yeah, and

1:02:11.720 --> 1:02:15.920
<v Speaker 2>we're not charging you know for that, Like this is Hey,

1:02:16.120 --> 1:02:18.480
<v Speaker 2>if I think you're hot, you're doing what you need

1:02:18.520 --> 1:02:22.360
<v Speaker 2>to do, you look good on the court, and you eating. Yeah,

1:02:22.960 --> 1:02:25.200
<v Speaker 2>let's highlight you, you know what I mean, Like a

1:02:25.200 --> 1:02:26.960
<v Speaker 2>lot of kids put in a lot of work in

1:02:27.040 --> 1:02:31.400
<v Speaker 2>basketball that we don't see, you know, from the kid

1:02:31.520 --> 1:02:33.800
<v Speaker 2>that doesn't have the travel team, that plays at the

1:02:33.840 --> 1:02:36.520
<v Speaker 2>park and he's there every single day and might be

1:02:36.560 --> 1:02:39.720
<v Speaker 2>there by himself, and and he just played one game

1:02:40.560 --> 1:02:43.200
<v Speaker 2>in a recreation league and might put up fifty points

1:02:43.200 --> 1:02:46.440
<v Speaker 2>and you'll never hear about it. But now you're watching,

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<v Speaker 2>you've got game and you'll see it.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, like we're diving in deep from everywhere across

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<v Speaker 2>them everything.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. Okay, okay, So you're even getting the ones that

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<v Speaker 1>like can't afford to be in the clinics. I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I know you're thinking about opening your own

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<v Speaker 1>clinic down the road.

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<v Speaker 2>Right as far as like camps, yeah, camps, Yeah, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>probably do something.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I definitely see that in your future.

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<v Speaker 2>It's definitely gonna.

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<v Speaker 1>So what's the next milestones for you after that? Because

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're current, right, you brought me so.

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<v Speaker 2>Now that's where we are, and some more exciting things.

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<v Speaker 2>Putting together a podcast along with Bug and Rats.

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<v Speaker 1>What Yeah, yeah, yeah, where got you guys should come

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<v Speaker 1>here and take you. Yeah, I'll take care of you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'll let you. I'll let you see when we

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<v Speaker 2>when we when we dropped the teaser on.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, oh you guys already started recording it and everything

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<v Speaker 1>unless you see, I'm gonna call like you don't tell

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<v Speaker 1>me enough he called. I think calls me almost once

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<v Speaker 1>a day now, I'm not even gonna lie, it's probably

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<v Speaker 1>five times a day.

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<v Speaker 2>Man. I talked to I talked to him and Book

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<v Speaker 2>every single day, you know. And they've been on their

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<v Speaker 2>journeys as well, right as it's super smart networking and

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<v Speaker 2>tied into a lot of different things that brings so

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<v Speaker 2>much value to what we're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's also done the I feel like he's also

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<v Speaker 1>been teaching me a little. I mean, I'm not good

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<v Speaker 1>at it. But he also worked on his mental health

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<v Speaker 1>and he'll be like dropping like like smart gems. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>i'd be like I wish I was like that. He'd

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<v Speaker 1>be like, you can be like that. Well I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>there yet, but you know, but yeah, he's worked on

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<v Speaker 1>his mental health too, which I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people don't talk about working on that.

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<v Speaker 2>In addition, that's really big of him, man, I salute

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<v Speaker 2>him for that. Sure, he's doing really good. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and Bug is still working in films doing films. So

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<v Speaker 2>us all coming together and creating what we put together,

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<v Speaker 2>it's pretty dope.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like, B two K coming back. Should we

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<v Speaker 1>be anticipating because you're talking to.

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<v Speaker 2>Lines, we're gonna see some you Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well, I'm pretty sure your fan base is still

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<v Speaker 1>rock solid and loyal and uh, they're gonna be anticipating

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<v Speaker 1>in the days to see the reunion for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>For sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Bless you, bless you? Now, how can everybody keep up

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<v Speaker 1>with you? We could talk directly to this camera. How

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<v Speaker 1>can everybody keep up with everything you have going on?

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<v Speaker 1>And then break down the youth You got game, youth

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<v Speaker 1>got game everything individually?

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<v Speaker 2>No, for sure? Well, first and foremost, you can you know,

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<v Speaker 2>check out my instagram air fizzle, same with the threads

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<v Speaker 2>air Fizzle.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Ai R Fizzle.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, fi z z o. Check out my movie coming

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<v Speaker 2>to AMC theaters November twenty second run Nixon. I'm really

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<v Speaker 2>excited about that. I think y'all are really gonna.

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<v Speaker 1>Enjoy that, And what's run Nixon about?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a single five Well, no, I'm sorry. I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>father of a ten year old boy who has a

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<v Speaker 2>heart condition. His mother is a stripper and one day

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<v Speaker 2>she drops him off to his game. I get there.

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<v Speaker 2>He plays basketball. I get there and he has a

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<v Speaker 2>heart attack on the court. He's suffering from forget what

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<v Speaker 2>the heart disease is called, but basically he needs a

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<v Speaker 2>heart transplant immediately or he won't survive, and our insurance

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't cover it. So his mother takes matters into her

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<v Speaker 2>own hands and robs a drug dealer from the strip

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<v Speaker 2>club she works at.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh wow.

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<v Speaker 2>He gets home, he puts clues together, figures out who

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<v Speaker 2>did it and why, and he kidnaps our son and

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<v Speaker 2>I have to figure out how to get him back.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh this sounds crazy intense. We gotta see this movie

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<v Speaker 1>in theater and then what else can we look forward

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<v Speaker 1>to it?

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<v Speaker 2>And then look forward to seeing you know me my

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<v Speaker 2>boy CJ. Y'all can follow him on Instagram Coach CJ

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<v Speaker 2>Underscore twenty three. We'll be highlighting all these kids. Man,

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<v Speaker 2>youth Got Game. Check out Youthgot Game dot com. You've

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<v Speaker 2>got game Instagram page. Yeah, it's gonna be crazy, man.

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<v Speaker 2>You might be the next kid on youth. Got game,

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<v Speaker 2>you never know. I yes, ma'am.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, guys, Well, thank you for feeding me. I

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<v Speaker 1>can finally finish this bag Frido without tuning in your ears.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes.

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