1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics, 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: where we discussed the top political headlines with some of 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 1: today's best minds and. 4 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 2: President Jimmy Carter has turned one hundred years old. We 5 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 2: have such a great show for you today. First, Joe here, 6 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 2: Rick Wilson and Molly react to the vice presidential debate. 7 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 2: Why from City Widery and Philadelphia. Then we'll talk to 8 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 2: actor John Leguizamo about his activism. But first the news. 9 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 3: We're joined by a special guest, Rick Wilson for the 10 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 3: headlines live backstage from Philadelphia at the City Widery. 11 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 4: So, Trump has accused Kama of being a murderer. Let's listen. 12 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 5: By the way, I'm outraged, and she let him the 13 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 5: savage who raped and murdered Rachel Lamar, and Kamala let 14 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 5: her in letteran she murdered him. 15 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 4: In my opinion, Kamala. 16 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 5: Murdered him just like she did, just like she had 17 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 5: a gun in her hand. 18 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 1: Look, Trump is just experimenting with going lower and lower 19 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: and lower, and he couldn't figure out anything lower than 20 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: what he usually does, and so he's decided that he's 21 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: going to continue with this explosive rhetoric. Again, we have 22 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: been trying really hard to get people to take down 23 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: the temperature. Donald Trump is doing exactly the opposite of that. 24 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 6: This is escalating to the point now where, you know, 25 00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 6: in the last twenty four hours, he's accused the Biden 26 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 6: administration of trying to kill Western North Carolina by not 27 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,640 Speaker 6: providing them AID, and now he's saying that completely. And 28 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 6: now I'm saying that Kamala Harris has a gun in 29 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 6: her hand. You know, there's a temptation here to just 30 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 6: write this off as Trump being Trump and Trump being senile. 31 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 6: But the other part of this is that Trump wants 32 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 6: people to associate her with whatever his you know, fantasy 33 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 6: of the day is, because they will then turned their 34 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 6: anger toward her. The same people that were lecturing us 35 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 6: two weeks ago about lowering the rhetoric and easing up 36 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 6: on the on the on the political rhetoric to prevent 37 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 6: violence are now saying, Kamala Harris has had the gun 38 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 6: in her hand and shot this, you know, And it 39 00:01:57,960 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 6: just doesn't work for me morally. 40 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: It does seem none of this works morally ready. But 41 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: it does seem as if Trump sees the numbers, he 42 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 1: sees the trajectory. He sees the poles and now he's 43 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: just trying to grab anything he can in the hopes 44 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: that it will, you know, disrupt this trajectory, this polling trajectory. 45 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 1: So I do think he is in full break out mode. Also, 46 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,519 Speaker 1: I think it's words remembering that when you listen to him, 47 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: he just sounds much less with it than he did. 48 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, the energy level is through the floor now. 49 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: And he also just his tenses don't match, the prepositions 50 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: don't match. You know, he has trouble getting the gender 51 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: of the character and the story to match. I mean, 52 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: he's really having some structural grammatical problems that I haven't 53 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: seen before. 54 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 6: Look, Donald Trump has never been a paragon of grammar. 55 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 6: But I think you're exactly right, Molly. There is an 56 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 6: increasing obvious diminishment of his ability. This is again, it's 57 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 6: not the guy from sixteen, and it's certainly there from 58 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 6: twenty certainly the guy from sixteen. This is a much weaker, 59 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 6: smaller man than he was, which is why he's trying 60 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 6: to throw out crazier ideas than ever before. 61 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 4: One of my sources in Trump earlier the. 62 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 6: Day said that he's calling her a thug and you know, 63 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 6: we know what the word means, we get it, and 64 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 6: he's trying to frame her in that same light right 65 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 6: now with this thing, it's not going to work except 66 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 6: for the you know, the craziest of the crazy. But 67 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 6: you know those crazies are the crazies are also you know, 68 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 6: a bunch of heavily armed lunatics and that's his. 69 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: Group, right those are his people, the magabase, and I 70 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: think his goal is just to activate as many of 71 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: them as possible, to get those ones and choose out. 72 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 4: Yep. 73 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 6: We could talk about this all night, but it's a 74 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 6: temptation on the part of the Harris campaign obviously to 75 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 6: try to play defense on this stuff. 76 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 4: They shouldn't even address it. They shouldn't even talk about it. 77 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 6: This is a crazy person yelling at the clouds, and 78 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 6: you know, if they want to say anything, it's like, 79 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 6: just have her look straight at non I go, hey, 80 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 6: talk shit. 81 00:03:58,120 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 4: Get hit? 82 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, don't all right? 83 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 3: So with that, Trump's really losing it language wise. Could 84 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 3: this be why he is backed out of doing an 85 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 3: appearance in sixty Minutes? 86 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 6: Well, they claimed that he backed out of it because 87 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 6: Hugo Woll reported that he backed out of it because 88 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 6: they wanted to do quote unquote live fact checking, which 89 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 6: is what we call journalism, and they wanted to correct 90 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 6: him during the interview, and he wouldn't do it. 91 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: If you find facts offensive, you may be a maga republic. 92 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:29,919 Speaker 7: I mean, I think, show. 93 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 4: Me on the dollar, the facts touched you. 94 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're if fact checking feels like an assault 95 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:40,279 Speaker 1: on you, you may be a maga republic. Right, you get 96 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:42,919 Speaker 1: it because a lot of this stuff is a lie. 97 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 4: I think. 98 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 1: Look, Trump wants to change the trajectory, and we're going 99 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,359 Speaker 1: to talk about this in a minute, because there's a 100 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 1: desire within him to try and do different stuff in 101 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: order to change the trajectory. But Trump can only be Trump, 102 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 1: and Trump twenty twenty four can only be this sort 103 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 1: of diminished words Trump. 104 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 6: Yeah. No, I will also say this, this is part 105 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 6: of a pattern. Now Trump is chickening out. He's chickened 106 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 6: out of another debate, He's chicken out of the sixteen 107 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 6: minutes interview. He's doing fewer and fewer things. Remember when 108 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:15,919 Speaker 6: he used to sit there and banter with reporters and 109 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 6: yell at them and abuse them. Yesterday in Valdosta, Georgia, 110 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 6: when he got called in his bullshit. He basically ran 111 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 6: away like a scalded dog. I mean, this guy is 112 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 6: he does not. And I think we're about to see 113 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 6: a return of the Kelly Ann Conway twenty sixteen strategy 114 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:35,840 Speaker 6: of wrap Trump up in a cocoon somewhere, bring him 115 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 6: hot and cold, running hookers or whatever it is that 116 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 6: distracts him, and hope he shuts up. 117 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 4: When he's off the camera. 118 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 6: He does better politically, ironically, but he can't. 119 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:48,360 Speaker 4: But he can't resist the camera. 120 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: So that's and also she's gotten Harris has gotten so 121 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: in his head that he can't write. Like the smart thing, 122 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: the smart play if you're Trump is to disappear, right, 123 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: make this, have your surrogates out there, not be out 124 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: there yourself because you seem so crazy. But because what 125 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 1: Harris did in the debate, which she got so in 126 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: his head, now we can't disappear because he feels he 127 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 1: has to defend himself. And every day that this election 128 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 1: is a referendum on Donald Trump, that's a day that 129 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris has went it. 130 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 3: So our last headlight is some very interesting and good news, 131 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 3: which is that the Cook Political Report has moved Colin 132 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 3: al Read versus Ted Cruz in the Texas Senate to 133 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,359 Speaker 3: only lean Republican. What are you guys seeing here? 134 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 7: So I think it's. 135 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 1: Important to realize that cook is is very serious. 136 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 7: It takes a lot to move them. Do you agree 137 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 7: with that? 138 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 4: Look? Yeah, I think that's right. I think I think 139 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:44,359 Speaker 4: that's that's broadly correct. 140 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 6: Texas is going to be a much closer state than 141 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 6: people think. 142 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 4: And I've said this on Blue in the Face. 143 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 6: And you turn out African Americans in the Houston metro 144 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 6: area and Harris County, you're going to be in a 145 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 6: much different position than you'd be in a generic race. 146 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 6: I think already has been a better can better or 147 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 6: work in terms of connecting with African American voters obviously 148 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 6: and with Texas voters more broadly, because of his athletic background, 149 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 6: I love better, but Colin comes across as less academic, 150 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 6: less lofty, more. 151 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: Also doesn't want to take away your guns. 152 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 7: I mean, guns are a big. 153 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 4: Issue into guns are big issue in Texas. 154 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: When Betto started talking about that, I think he alienated 155 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: some voters. I mean, it's no accident that Harris said 156 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: she had a gun, right, right, That's not an accident 157 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: that was by design because voters. That's an anxiety for 158 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: a lot of American voters. My god, why that's an anxiety? 159 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 7: God help me. 160 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: We all need there. This is an entire country that 161 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: needs therapy. 162 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 4: But maybe. 163 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 7: I guess like personalizing this, but. 164 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: I love you mean it, But the gun thing is real. 165 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: We'll see what happens in Texas. Ted Cruise is wildly unlikable. 166 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: And if there's ever a really good Senate candidate who 167 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: could be politically beaten at the back a box in 168 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: a very red state, it would be Ted Cruse. 169 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 5: Do you agree? 170 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 4: I agree? 171 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 6: And look, Ted Cruz is he is a guy who 172 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 6: who has kind of checked out of the job a 173 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 6: long time ago. He pays more attention to his podcast 174 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 6: and his travel. 175 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 7: Plans drops three times a week. 176 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 6: Guy, he's like the Steve Bannon of Charlie Kirks. I mean, 177 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 6: he's recording all these But look, Cruz is a guy 178 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 6: who is deeply unpopular in the Senate. His own colleagues 179 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 6: ad him. He has no friends, no allies. He's never 180 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 6: going to get anything done. Whether it's Mitch McConnell or 181 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 6: Chuck Schumer running the Senate. 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The vice presidential debate, Well. 213 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 8: First off, JD. 214 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 6: Vance talks like an auctioneer, meth out of his mind, 215 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 6: that a catalytic converter auction I mean he really, he really. 216 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 6: Vance has been very much trying to do two things tonight. 217 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 6: He's been trying to hit this one mark of pleasing 218 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 6: Trump over and over again. 219 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 8: Donald Trump is the God. 220 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 6: Donald Trump did this on all of that comes down 221 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 6: at the end of the day, I think to something 222 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:42,160 Speaker 6: that's a little weaker than he thinks. I would say 223 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 6: Walls had a slower start, especially because and I think 224 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 6: part of it was he was looking at Vance like 225 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 6: you know that that that super high speed Vance trying 226 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 6: to get his story out, not not hey there you 227 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 6: are not comfortable. 228 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 5: We occasionally leave sometimes. 229 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 7: Yeah. 230 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 1: I think look, Vance is infuriating because he lies so effectively, 231 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 1: and so question. 232 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:12,839 Speaker 6: I wrote an article about it today, like you can 233 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 6: expect Jadie Vance to come out tonight with a torrent 234 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 6: a river of. 235 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 7: Bulshit cue and it's Donald Trump. 236 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 1: But I mean, I think the question is when you 237 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: watch that, who do you like better? 238 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 8: Look? 239 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 6: I think I think that question is very relevant. I 240 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 6: also think that his answer is at the very end here. 241 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 9: Jessie from Walls on abortion and on women are much 242 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 9: stronger than Jade Vance trying to weave his way through 243 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 9: and fake out and answer. 244 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 4: Like I just cared about the babies. 245 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 7: But it is pretty funny that JD. 246 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 1: Vance is still getting fact checked even though they're not 247 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,559 Speaker 1: doing fact checking, Like how. 248 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:01,719 Speaker 7: Much lie don't have to do that? 249 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: They decide that they're not going to do fact checking, 250 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: but they are going to do fact checking. 251 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,959 Speaker 6: And Stephen Chung was pissy that Trump pulled out of 252 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 6: the sixty minutes thing because he said they said they 253 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 6: would be doing fact checking on the story. I'm like, 254 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 6: I'm so sorry. Did you did you think Donald just 255 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 6: got to go in there and say, all right, Andrea, 256 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 6: sit down, I'm gonna just talk for an hour. 257 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:22,439 Speaker 1: Well, that's what Donald Trump wants to do, and that's 258 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: what Sean Hannity lets Donald Trump do, right, I mean, 259 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: that's why he does all those interviews. 260 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 4: There actually was a. 261 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,079 Speaker 6: Sean Hannity show one night in twenty sixteen where he 262 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 6: had Trump on and Sean Hannity said thirty five words 263 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 6: in the entire hour. 264 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:38,719 Speaker 8: I had a guy figure that out. From the time. 265 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 8: I was like, that's amazing. It's like, mister President, tell 266 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 8: us why you're wonderful. 267 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 6: But I look, I do think, I do think what 268 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 6: you're seeing tonight is that Vance is very much trying 269 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 6: to like feed the MAGA media machine open border, open 270 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 6: border borders. Our borders are open border, open border, open border. 271 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 6: That sort of stuff is the thing that that he's 272 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 6: trying to give Fox as many YouTube clips as they 273 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,679 Speaker 6: can get. Yeah, that's that's what he's really approaching the set. 274 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: I thought Vance, Look, he got out there, he looked 275 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: nervous Waltz when he got out there. 276 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 7: He looked a little bit nervous, and all of us 277 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 7: took a deep. 278 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: Breath, and I thought, our guy looks a little nervous, 279 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: and perhaps a little bit of bronzer would not be 280 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 1: the worst thing. You'll remember, bronzer has been, has has 281 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: appeared many times during this. 282 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 6: It has indeed, and I will say, you know, Tim 283 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 6: Walls is about as white as a bag of marshmallows, right. 284 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: But he got his sea legs pretty quickly. Yeah, And 285 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: that answer on abortion, I thought was really excellent. 286 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 6: And I guys, honestly, no one's changing their mind based 287 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 6: on jd Vance going out there and rattling off seven 288 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 6: hundred words in mighty four seconds. 289 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 8: It's not it's just not. It's not going to change 290 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 8: the game. 291 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 6: The only, the only, in my lifetime, the only like 292 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 6: real drama in presidential debates was when Lloyd Benson cleaned 293 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 6: Dan Quail's clock. 294 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 8: And and yet George H. W. 295 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 6: Bush went on to win four hundred electoral college bo 296 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 6: stop gloading. 297 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 7: We still love him. 298 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 6: And I love you too, but but but you know, 299 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 6: you also saw like during the okay, here. 300 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: Were welcome back to the CBS News vice presidential debate. 301 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 5: We want to turn it lence epidemic. 302 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:33,760 Speaker 3: All right, we're going to give you guys as much 303 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 3: time with them as possible, So we're gonna just turn 304 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 3: down the closing remarks because we. 305 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 8: Know that's gonna be bullshit. We know what they're going 306 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 8: to say. 307 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: We did it, Mama Harris, open border, open border, openes. 308 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 6: We did and I this is a weird experiment tonight, 309 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 6: but thank you. 310 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 8: All for hanging in. 311 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 10: We promise appreciate you coming out tonight. 312 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 4: Thank you so much. 313 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 7: We promised never to subject you to that much. 314 00:14:58,920 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 8: Again. 315 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 6: The giant down in this thing from Maga World on Twitter. 316 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 10: Was how dare they in fact chuck jd Vance? 317 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: So let me ask you a question about Jady Vance. 318 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: I was watching that debate and I thought that Walls 319 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: did pretty well and Jady Vance is a lying psychopath. 320 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 7: Now, yeah, I just want to ask you. 321 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: There were a lot of people like, you know, the 322 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: sort of really terrible two sides, the pundits like Crystaliza. 323 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 7: Oh god, yeah, who. 324 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:30,200 Speaker 1: Said while Vance is doing an amazing job tonight, He's 325 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: coming out, he's saying the lies very quickly. They're very catchy. 326 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: Isn't the job here to be likable? 327 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 8: Lord? Or no likability matters. 328 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 6: But but look, Vance came out with that rattle trap 329 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 6: high speed coped up first answer, and I knew the 330 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 6: guy had been hyper prepared for the debate. Walls came 331 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 6: out trying to be the agreeable, vuncular guy that he. 332 00:15:57,920 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 7: Is, which he was, and he was. 333 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 6: You know, a lot of the we agree on this, 334 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 6: We agree on that. Vance didn't want to go into 335 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 6: that mode, but Walls dragged him to it. Oh look, 336 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 6: I think Vance was playing for an audience of two, 337 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 6: the national media, so they would. 338 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 8: Say how smart and prepared he was and for Donald Trump, 339 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 8: right and so. 340 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 1: But Vance, everything was punctuated by Kamala Harris's open border. 341 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 8: Right. It's like, it's like Kamala Harris's policy on healthcare. Motherfucker. 342 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 8: The congressional side of this is completely missing in JD. 343 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 8: Vance's head. 344 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 6: I'm like, dude, stop saying that Kamala Harris can change 345 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 6: housing regulations right, right? 346 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 7: But also JD. 347 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: Vance, Donald Trump tried to repeal Obamacare twic but twice 348 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: so and and. 349 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 6: By the way, and by the way, the greatest memorial 350 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 6: John McCain could have left for himself was that moment 351 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 6: on the Florido. He went, yeah, that was his last 352 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 6: fuck you. And believe me, I know John John John 353 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 6: had borne to you fuck using him. Yeah, but that 354 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 6: was a moment where you know they're going to try 355 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:10,439 Speaker 6: to retroactively rewrite the whole history of Trump. 356 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 8: It's a jade. 357 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 6: Vancis are like Donald Trump's sensitive caring policies towards women 358 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:18,880 Speaker 6: and and and he really thought to save Obamacare. 359 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: But Rick, my question for you is this, dude, does 360 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: this move the needle? 361 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 7: Does smatter at all? 362 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 8: Once again? 363 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 6: Vice presidential debates have never statistically moved the vote. Now 364 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 6: you're gonna see Maga on social media trying to turn 365 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:38,639 Speaker 6: this into a giant win tonight because their lives have 366 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 6: been so shitty for the last eight weeks. They've gotten 367 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:44,439 Speaker 6: their asses kicked every day by trained professionals. They really 368 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 6: hate where they're at right now. So you're gonna see 369 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 6: them try to make this into like this is the 370 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,120 Speaker 6: one debate that will change everything. 371 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 1: But did But But do you think Walls lost this 372 00:17:57,680 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: debate because I'm not convinced he did. 373 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 8: I don't think he lost the debate. 374 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 6: I think one of the things Vance did tonight that 375 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 6: was targeting the press is to code switch really quickly. 376 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 6: You know, he goes from being Tucker Carlson techbro asshole 377 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 6: on podcasts like of course women should be subservient to 378 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 6: their lords and masters to this tonight, we just care 379 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 6: about women and the babies. His code switching is brilliant 380 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 6: and rapid. I thought he came across his fake and overprepared. 381 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 6: I think Walls had a one answer that cannot be forgiven. Okay, 382 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 6: I'm gonna tell you this. As a debate coach, I 383 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 6: would go take him off stage and beat the fuck 384 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 6: out of him. That Teman square answer was agonizing. He 385 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 6: should have said, you know what, I fucked up. I 386 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 6: was bullshitting around somebody and I got the date strong. Sorry, 387 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 6: that's it, That's all you have to do. 388 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 8: But he had to. 389 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 6: Give an answer that lasted for like forty minutes. I 390 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 6: was like, stop, stop, it's dead, Jim. 391 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 8: So no, Look, Walls didn't. 392 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 7: Lose this, but but he didn't win. 393 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 8: But neither did he win it. 394 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 5: Yeah. 395 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 8: Look, in the very first debate, Joe Biden lost the debate. 396 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 7: Yeah all lost Donald Trump debate. 397 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 8: Not win that debate. 398 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 7: That was the worst. 399 00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:17,200 Speaker 1: That debate was one of the worst moments of all 400 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 1: of our lives. 401 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,919 Speaker 7: Let's be honest here, I've made Oh yeah, and if I. 402 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,199 Speaker 8: If I may, if I may do a southernism. 403 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 6: I called Stuart and I were on the phone after 404 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 6: the debate the first debate, and I'm like, man, my 405 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 6: dick is in the dirt. 406 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 1: Oh. 407 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 8: He's like, that is a southernism. But no. But so 408 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,880 Speaker 8: look that first debate Biden lost him. Trump did not win. 409 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 6: If you read Trump's transcript from the first debate, he 410 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:44,359 Speaker 6: sounds like a lunatic. Yeah, Harris clearly decisively won the 411 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 6: president's debate. Donald Trump will not debate her again. 412 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe, maybe, maybe, I think you could still do. 413 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 6: I think the Republican joke on Twitter, it's like that 414 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 6: should debate Harris. 415 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 8: Yeah, advancure debate. Hairs like, okay, give it a rest, pal. 416 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 4: Yeah. 417 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 6: So look, I think Walls gave good answers. I think 418 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,920 Speaker 6: he gave some answers that neutralized some of the Republican 419 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 6: attack factories. 420 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 8: The gun answer was very well crafted and very well delivered. 421 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,439 Speaker 7: And the January sixth stuff, and the January I. 422 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 8: Think Vance shipped the bed in the last act of 423 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 8: the play. 424 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, if I may mix my metaphors a bit, yes, 425 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,440 Speaker 6: but I don't think he ended well on it. And look, 426 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 6: the other thing you wanted that Advance was really trying 427 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 6: to get to all night night. He finally got to 428 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 6: it at the end, was. 429 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 4: Like, I'm endorsed by Robert F. 430 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 6: Kennedy and Tulsa Gabbert, which is just bait for the 431 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:38,879 Speaker 6: Tucker crowd, right, you know. 432 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 7: Well, also, I mean, okay, that's good. 433 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 8: That in four sixty five? Int you a small latte Starbucks? 434 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 7: Yeah? 435 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: I right, exactly On Alex Jones, I mean I just 436 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: am not convinced that that does anything for him. 437 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 8: No, look I don't. 438 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 6: And again, no vice president's debate has ever moved the 439 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 6: This is interesting, it's amusing, but the reaction to it 440 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 6: on the right of taking a let's even call it 441 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 6: a qualified win and trying to turn it into this 442 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,439 Speaker 6: earth shaking political moment just shows you. 443 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 8: How desperate they are on the broader campaign. 444 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,439 Speaker 1: And I also think it's worth just pulling back and 445 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 1: wondering if Vance. 446 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 7: Is so unlikable. He was not more likable tonight, No, 447 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 7: he was. 448 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 6: Look again, the code switch tonight is not a believable change, right, 449 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 6: he was very fast and Edgy in his answers, he 450 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:40,480 Speaker 6: was super prepared. Right, Yeah, Yale Law School. Hey, they're 451 00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 6: going to kick us out of here at eleven o'clock. Yes, 452 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 6: so what we're gonna do? 453 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: Are you concerned about Project twenty twenty five and how 454 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: awful Trump's second term could be? 455 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 7: Well, so are we, which is why. 456 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 1: We teamed up with iHeart to make a limited series 457 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 1: with the experts on what a disaster Project twenty twenty 458 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: five would be for america future. 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We need to educate 466 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 1: Americans on what Trump's second term would or could do 467 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 1: to this country, so please watch it and spread the word. 468 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 2: John Leguizamo is a stand up comedian and an actor. 469 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: Welcome to Fast Politics, John Guizamo. 470 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 5: Mally, what a pleasure. Thank you for having me, Ami, 471 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 5: you talking about this for a long long time. 472 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 1: That's right, we have, and throughout this whole time, you've 473 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: been doing such amazing work first talking the Latino community. 474 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 5: Talk to me. 475 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 1: About you're doing acting, but you're also doing activism in 476 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 1: a really cool way. 477 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think they're not mutually exclusive, but then you 478 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 5: can do both. It has its repercussions in the entertainment 479 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,359 Speaker 5: business a little bit in them with fans. Some fans 480 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 5: expect you just to be entertainer and to shut up, 481 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,920 Speaker 5: and they'll tell you that, like in a tweet or 482 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 5: on Facebook, especially Facebook and Twitter, where they like to 483 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 5: get really hostile you. It'll push back, but you know, 484 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 5: I'm not new to push back. I'm a Latin man 485 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 5: who grew up in America. I'm used to being pushed 486 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 5: back all the way since kindergarten. 487 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: That's right. So first I want you to talk about 488 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,159 Speaker 1: the PBS series and then we'll talk about all the 489 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: other stuff. 490 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 5: Sure. So, now, the PBS show is a passion project 491 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 5: of mind, a life's mission to get Latin facts out 492 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 5: to the public, especially for my Latino community, but for everybody, 493 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 5: for the black community, white community, Asian community, l GTBQ 494 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:51,120 Speaker 5: plus to understand what Latin people have brought to America 495 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 5: to the world, our contributions to the modern world. That 496 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 5: would not exist without our contributions. The modern world could 497 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 5: not exist without Latin people's contributions. First of all, Latin 498 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,160 Speaker 5: cuisine is the mother cuisine of all cuisines. Without our 499 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 5: tomato sauce. There is no Italian food without our chilies 500 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:14,119 Speaker 5: and hot sauce. There is no barbecue, there's no Indian food, 501 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 5: there's no Thai food without our vanilla and chocolate. There's 502 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 5: no French pastries without our potato. The Industrial Revolution would 503 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 5: have never happened because our potato helped the whole Europe 504 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 5: expand its population so it can maintain the Industrial Revolution 505 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 5: and saved Ireland and so many of the countries as well, 506 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 5: because you know, and then you know vodka and pirole geese, 507 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 5: all that French fries came from that. And then our 508 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 5: corn is the modern world. Nothing in no country functions 509 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 5: without our corn. It feeds livestock, it's used for corn syrup, 510 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 5: which is produced in every product that you're eating, unfortunately, 511 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,320 Speaker 5: and you know, for some of it, but that's just 512 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 5: the food part of it. And then Hopkins University did 513 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,959 Speaker 5: a study with unitos Us and found that eighty seven percent, 514 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,960 Speaker 5: and of Latino contributions to the making of the world 515 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 5: in the US are not in the history textbooks. So 516 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 5: that's what this PBS show is about. Talking about our 517 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,439 Speaker 5: empires in the first episode and the incredible, I mean, 518 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 5: they were bigger than the European empires and in some 519 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,119 Speaker 5: ways much more advanced. We had brain surgery, the Incas 520 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 5: that brain surgery that was fifty times more successful than 521 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 5: even in the Civil War. They had binary code, they 522 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:27,199 Speaker 5: had they invented the suspension bridge. The Mayans tracked Venus 523 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 5: more specific and precise than the other culture. The inventtion 524 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 5: of the zero happened as well for the Mayans. And 525 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,199 Speaker 5: then we talk about the second episode is from the 526 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 5: conquest to the nineteen hundreds, and then it's like all 527 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 5: our contributions into making of America and our oppression because 528 00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 5: you know, you think of Latin people and you go, 529 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,119 Speaker 5: if you've been here forever and you've been in the 530 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,719 Speaker 5: US contributing, why are and B further ahead? But then 531 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 5: you have to go look back and see that we 532 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 5: were lynched, not as much as our black brothers and sisters, 533 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 5: but six thousand us when Lynch burned alive and shot. 534 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 5: We were massacred, We were segregated, we were experimented on. 535 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 5: Our women were sterilized against their knowledge. The first case 536 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:09,360 Speaker 5: against segregation was the Latino family, that Mayesta's family nineteen 537 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 5: eleven in Denver, Colorado. The first boy lynch in America 538 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 5: was a Latino boy, an Tonio Gomez, in nineteen fourteen, 539 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 5: for disrespecting a white man. The first woman lynch in 540 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 5: America was a Latina, a young woman during the gold Rush, 541 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 5: because she shot the white miner that was raping her, 542 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 5: and because she wouldn't show remorse, they hunger. So we 543 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 5: come from all this incredible oppression, and yet this year 544 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 5: we hit an inflection point because we are at three 545 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 5: point six trillion dollars that we add to the GDP. 546 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 1: Wow. And you got inspired when you were working on 547 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: Latino history for morons. 548 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 5: I mean it had started a little bit before, but 549 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 5: Latino history for morons. What happened to my son and 550 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,439 Speaker 5: that he wasn't being taught any Latin history, you know, 551 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 5: was the genesis of it all. Because I found it 552 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 5: kind of absurd, and especially when I started doing the 553 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 5: research then I found it really aggressive and I started 554 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 5: to realize that the reason our history is missing, it's 555 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 5: not a casual thing or a happenstance. It's a purposeful thing. 556 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 5: Because if Latin people were the largest ethnic group in America, 557 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 5: knew their power and understood and everybody else understood their contributions, 558 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,919 Speaker 5: you couldn't, you know, erase them from voter rolls. You 559 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 5: couldn't exact pull taxes on them. You couldn't do all 560 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 5: the things steal our land wealth, not put money to 561 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 5: our public schools. 562 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's a really good point. Will you explain 563 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: to us sort of what you've been doing with your 564 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: activism and outreach to Latino communities with this election coming up? 565 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, well, because I'm working on two activists, I mean 566 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:40,640 Speaker 5: politically on one side, and then entertainment and employment because 567 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 5: they go cut hand in hand. 568 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 1: Explain to us first the political stuff and then the 569 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: employment stuff. 570 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 5: So, you know, trying to tell Democrats mostly, but Republicans 571 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,879 Speaker 5: have heard because they listen in to find out our 572 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 5: secrets and that the Latino vote is the largest voting 573 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 5: block and we're going to help decide who the president 574 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 5: is because we have about thirty six million registered voters 575 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 5: and you have to have Latin consultants. You have to 576 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 5: have Latin experts. You have to have people in the 577 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 5: field who know what we need to be talked to, 578 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,679 Speaker 5: what we care about, how to reach us. And you 579 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,479 Speaker 5: have to do the work. You have to knock on 580 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 5: our doors, you have to call, you have to come 581 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,919 Speaker 5: into our communities. But once you have us, you have us. 582 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 5: Were very loyal. 583 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: What is the message, what is the need? 584 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 5: Well, I mean, the biggest thing for us Latin people 585 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,120 Speaker 5: above anything else is jobs. That's all we really care 586 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,439 Speaker 5: about is jobs and housing. Latin women are the number 587 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 5: one small startup businesses in America. I think last year 588 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,400 Speaker 5: the we'red eighty six percent. I'm not sure what they're 589 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 5: at this year. But they're also the lowest paid woman 590 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 5: in the American economy. And then the problem with the 591 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 5: small businesses that we have is that we're less than 592 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 5: one percent of venture capitalism comes to us. We're aware 593 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 5: of those issues, you know, intuitively, and that's what they 594 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 5: need to tell And Kamala did it in the debate. 595 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 5: She knew she's been talking to people because she talked 596 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 5: about a house day and jobs and helping small businesses 597 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 5: and you know, for giving, you know, all that. I mean, 598 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 5: that's the biggest thing. 599 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: Do you feel like people in the Latino community are 600 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: more connected with her? I mean, are you seeing that 601 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: or does she need to still do more? 602 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 5: She still needs to do more, but no, she's hitting home. 603 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 5: You know, she's energized the Democratic base and that means 604 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 5: us Latinos. I know, all the latin activists that I'm 605 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 5: talking about in everybody who's grassroots organizing for Latinos are 606 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 5: jacked up by her, are pumped up. She definitely is 607 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 5: doing but she needs to do more because you know, 608 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 5: we're not a monolith. And you know there are the 609 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 5: very religious Latinos who are very conservative and they need 610 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 5: a few other things to be talked about. And then 611 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 5: there are the Latinos who have political issues that are 612 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 5: not in line with Democrats. 613 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, can you talk to us about the other 614 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: part of your activism? 615 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 5: Well, the other part of my activism is employment. Yeah, 616 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 5: and that we are so invisible and just not getting 617 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 5: the promotions we deserve. We're not executives, We're not at 618 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 5: the seats so the decisions are being made. We're about 619 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 5: zero point one percent of the executives in Hollywood. But 620 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 5: that goes everywhere. Hollywood's where I can see it, and 621 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 5: I know it because I experienced it. But would I 622 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 5: talk to other Latin people who are executives everywhere else. 623 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 5: They're experiencing the same thing in banking, tech corporations and 624 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 5: you net medicine anywhere. They're telling me they're good enough 625 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 5: to train others to be promoted above them, but they're 626 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 5: not good enough to be promoted. And that's been my 627 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 5: whole life in the entertainment industry. I'm talented enough, but 628 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 5: not tell enough to have the leads because they're not 629 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 5: writing Latin leads and they're not willing to change white 630 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 5: leads enough to put Latin people in those lead roles. 631 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 5: You know, we're twenty percent of the US population, but 632 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 5: less than six percent of leading roles and less than 633 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 5: one percent of the stories being told, less than than 634 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 5: I told you of the executives. And that's not okay. 635 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 5: It's not okay When we're thirty percent of the US 636 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 5: box office a third of subscribers on streaming. We deserve 637 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 5: a lot more. And it's not like we just got here, Molly. 638 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 5: We've been here forever. When the founding fathers of Hollywood 639 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 5: got to Hollywood in the early nineteen hundreds. It had 640 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 5: just been Mexico sixty years prior, and they came into 641 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 5: a city that was predominantly Latino, and yet we weren't 642 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 5: put in any films. You weren't put anywhere. It was 643 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,800 Speaker 5: like an apartheid state, because I mean that they didn't 644 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 5: create the Holomifi, but they walked into it. Because you know, 645 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 5: thousands of us have been just launched. Our land wealth 646 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 5: was stolen from us, our politic hour was taken away 647 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 5: from us. We were segregated in the worst schools, redlined. 648 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 5: So they walked into this very docile community and they 649 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 5: didn't care. And then all of a sudden, D W. 650 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 5: Gri does a Birth of a Nation, the biggest film 651 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 5: of the sound era, and where the villains of it. 652 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 5: We're not in any film in that whole era, but 653 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:47,239 Speaker 5: we can be the villains of the biggest film right now. 654 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: I mean, oh, it's such a nightmare Latinos. They happened 655 00:31:52,120 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 1: to be in the most important swing states, large populations, Nevada, Arizona. 656 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 5: Huge the population. 657 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know, when I went to Arizona a 658 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: while back, I talked to young activists. Sheriff Joe had 659 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 1: made them activists. They had seen these terrible anti immigrant 660 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: laws at the state level and acted. They had seen 661 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 1: you know, just real almost Jim Crowish law, people being 662 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: deported and jailed, et cetera. And you know these huge 663 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 1: prison camps, I mean, just really bleak. And it radicalized 664 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: them in a good way. I mean, it made them activists. 665 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: It made them care about what happened to their community. 666 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 1: And those kids are like middle aged now or yeah, 667 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: I mean do you see that? Have you seen that 668 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 1: in other places? And what do you think about that? 669 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 5: Yeah? No, No, Mary, that's a great point. I mean, 670 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 5: you you're so hit because I went to Arizona just 671 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 5: this summer and I met with all these activists Chicanos 672 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 5: por La Causa, met Ruby and Gayega. So there's so 673 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 5: many great organizations, grassroots Latin organizations that gave us Arizona 674 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 5: for Biden. They alone did it without nobody donated to them. 675 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 5: They did it out of their own pockets. And that's 676 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 5: what I'm telling also politically to democrats is you've got 677 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 5: to fund these organizations. They're doing your work for you. 678 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 5: Then they're already organized. Give them the money they need. 679 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 5: And I'm trying to do that with my friend Brian Sergutz, 680 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 5: who's a brilliant, brilliant techie, and he's trying to come 681 00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 5: up with He came up with this incredible app called 682 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 5: empathy and in its way of donating to all these 683 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 5: causes into and then to all these organizations, and and 684 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 5: he's focusing this month on Latino organizations like kind of 685 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 5: Lakausa Bota Latino, Maria Tersca, yeah, you know you know 686 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 5: her well, how she's amazing, and Monica Ramirez who deals 687 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 5: with immigrant women and all other causes, you know, And 688 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 5: then and then they should fund all these Latin politicians 689 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 5: that are out there that can be spreading the word, 690 00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 5: like Ruben g Diego went this. There's countless others I'm 691 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 5: blanking on right now. 692 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 1: It's interesting to me because Ruben has you know, I've 693 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 1: known him for a while, We've interviewed him a ton 694 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 1: of times. I always thought he was a really, really 695 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 1: compelling speaker with a really amazing story. But he is, 696 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 1: I mean so far, and again the election hasn't happened yet, 697 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,960 Speaker 1: but in the polling he is just wiping the floor 698 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: with carry Oh my god, I know that humongous leads. 699 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,240 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, again, nobody knows anything and everyone 700 00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: must vote and do the work. 701 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,839 Speaker 5: But right, Nate Silver taught us that, yes, exactly. 702 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,800 Speaker 1: But it is like he has a very compelling message, 703 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,279 Speaker 1: and it seems like he's very connected to voters, and 704 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 1: he's raised a gazillion dollars. 705 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I give him every chance I get, 706 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 5: and I tell all my friends and I send them 707 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 5: the sites to send money to to puent this, to 708 00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,280 Speaker 5: go diego to all the other Latin candidates out there, 709 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 5: because they are doing this saving of democracy that we 710 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 5: all need and want. Ruben, You're right, he's brilliant man. 711 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 5: He's a great speaker, he's charismatic, he's a veteran, and 712 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,319 Speaker 5: he's haf Colombian. So I love that too. 713 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, if you want those voters, you need 714 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 1: to run those people, right, Yes, you know, you need 715 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 1: to connect with them. And I think that that's the 716 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 1: exciting thing about Harris, right, is that she looks like 717 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 1: the base of the Democratic Party. 718 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 5: Yes she doesn't. She's you know, she's a brilliant speaker. 719 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 5: She's smart, she's sharp, she's strong, she's a strong woman. 720 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 5: You know, I think we can all get behind a 721 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:31,759 Speaker 5: strong woman. I think Americans and men finally are realizing 722 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 5: that a strong woman is an incredible woman and it's 723 00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 5: great to be with them and be near them. 724 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 1: One of the issues with this election is that she's 725 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 1: doing very or at least the pollings that she's doing 726 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 1: very well with women. She's got to sort of pick 727 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:46,319 Speaker 1: up the numbers when it comes to men. 728 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 7: There is a certain level of sexism. 729 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, So talk to me about that, I mean, 730 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 1: and sort of what you think could be useful there in. 731 00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 5: The debate, she really showed that she was president and 732 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:03,280 Speaker 5: that she was tough. Because women have the difficult task 733 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 5: of that, they have to be charming as well and 734 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 5: likable as they're being tough, do you know what I mean. 735 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 5: Men don't have to do that. It can be like Trump. 736 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 5: It could be just a jerk and an asshole, and 737 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 5: that's great, you know what I mean. But women aren't 738 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,839 Speaker 5: allowed to be that. So I think she wrote that 739 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 5: line beautifully. You know, She's got to keep working on 740 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 5: showing us that she can handle foreign policy and handle 741 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 5: the wars. America's kind of hawkish now, not the young people, 742 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,040 Speaker 5: the older people are kind of hawkish. I mean, Trump 743 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,240 Speaker 5: has fomented so much talk of civil war and violence 744 00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 5: that you have to be a stronger leader than ever. 745 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 6: Now. 746 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 5: You know, it's not just about peace. We want to 747 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 5: hear that, but you also have to show that if 748 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 5: she hits the fan, that you can fucking put your 749 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 5: dukes up and defend us. 750 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 1: You know, what do you think though about this sort 751 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:53,400 Speaker 1: of like Trump says he's made in roads with Latino men. 752 00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,719 Speaker 1: I mean, we don't really know what it will look 753 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,919 Speaker 1: like until the election, but the narrative in the mainstream media, 754 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 1: and again there's nothing to back us up but pols, 755 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,759 Speaker 1: so we don't really know. But the narrative is that, 756 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 1: you know, he's very macho and that that may be 757 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,320 Speaker 1: appealing to some Latino. 758 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 5: Men and women, and some Latino women like that strong 759 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:17,040 Speaker 5: man thing as well. Yes, I think it does appeal 760 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 5: to some Latin men, the machismo thing, you know, so 761 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 5: it's definitely an old school Latin thing that comes from 762 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,840 Speaker 5: colonialism and all that nonsense. People do like that, that 763 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,399 Speaker 5: strong man thing, But I don't know if that's enough 764 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,879 Speaker 5: to win him. I mean, what won him in those 765 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:34,480 Speaker 5: those Latino men that are going from was when he 766 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 5: signed those checks those checks that had his name fooled 767 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 5: so many people, and they think, they still believe that 768 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 5: if he's president, they're going to get more of those 769 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 5: checks signed by And I wish Biden had signed his 770 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 5: checks because then we'd have those Latino. 771 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,360 Speaker 1: It's so interesting when you say that, and so important 772 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,359 Speaker 1: to just talk this all through. I think the work 773 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,799 Speaker 1: you're doing as an activist is so amazing, And just 774 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,879 Speaker 1: are you ever really disappointed that more celebrities and more 775 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 1: actors don't do that. 776 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,359 Speaker 5: I used to be very disappointed by it, but then 777 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,360 Speaker 5: I understand it's a risk. Entertainers need to be like 778 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,560 Speaker 5: a blank canvas a little bit, you know what I mean. 779 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:16,400 Speaker 5: The people can imprint whatever they want on you. But 780 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 5: I'm an artist. I'm not an entertainer. That's where the 781 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 5: difference is. Artists stick their neck out and we fight 782 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 5: for things, I mean, trying to change society. I'm not 783 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,240 Speaker 5: an entertainer. I mean, I'm glad when I can't entertain 784 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,799 Speaker 5: through my art, but that's not my sole purpose. My 785 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,720 Speaker 5: sole purpose is to change society at large and to 786 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 5: elevate people and to bring us all together through empathy. 787 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 1: I really really appreciate you. 788 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:40,879 Speaker 7: Thank you, so much for coming on. 789 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,240 Speaker 5: Oh Molly, thank you for giving me the space. 790 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 10: You're the best, No moment perfectly all right, we are 791 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 10: back with a Moment of Fuckery live from the backstage 792 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,880 Speaker 10: of the Philadelphia City Winery with Rick Wilson mind John Fast. 793 00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:58,920 Speaker 3: I want you guys to react to Kelly and Conway 794 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,280 Speaker 3: is pushing Donald Trump to man up and debate Kamala 795 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 3: Harris again. 796 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 7: Well, let Rick start. 797 00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:08,319 Speaker 3: You don't want to react to friend of the Show 798 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,320 Speaker 3: Kelly had Codways saying something value. 799 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:11,320 Speaker 7: Nope, go. 800 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,399 Speaker 6: Look, Kelly Anne is desperately trying to get back into 801 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,240 Speaker 6: Trump's good graces and the world of Trump and Trump 802 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:23,400 Speaker 6: is because Chris los Avida and Susie Wilds actually know 803 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 6: what polling is and that's not what Kelly Anne does. 804 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:27,440 Speaker 1: And they don't like her polling. 805 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 6: They don't like her in general. And I think Corey 806 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 6: coming back in did not did not help her. Omm 807 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,400 Speaker 6: I'm really going to get in trouble, aren't. 808 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 1: They, because Cory doesn't like her, right. 809 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:39,479 Speaker 4: He did once upon time. 810 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 6: But you know, she's got one of these things where 811 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,800 Speaker 6: she's not really giving Trump real advice. 812 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 4: She's hoping to be ahead of the curve. 813 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,600 Speaker 6: When his ego drives him into changing his mind and 814 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:50,879 Speaker 6: debating her again. 815 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 1: But also he wants to do. 816 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,320 Speaker 6: It, and everybody else on the staff is like, please, 817 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 6: for the love of Jesus, please don't do this, because 818 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,400 Speaker 6: I mean, think we all understand this. If he walks 819 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:04,120 Speaker 6: onto that debate stage with Vice President Harris again and 820 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 6: she cuts his head off again and kicks it around 821 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,600 Speaker 6: like a soccer ball, not only is the election over, 822 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:10,800 Speaker 6: the Republican Party is going to get blown the fuck 823 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,480 Speaker 6: out in a lot of places it shouldn't. 824 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 1: He's going to get Mark Robinson Levell new to Africa, poland. 825 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:17,160 Speaker 4: Pretty much yeah. 826 00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:18,959 Speaker 6: I mean, as if Donald Trump walked in the stage 827 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 6: and said, you know, on my online chat room on 828 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:25,280 Speaker 6: my important site, and I frequent I call myself baby Hitler. 829 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:32,480 Speaker 1: That's it for this episode of Fast Politics. Tune in 830 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,760 Speaker 1: every Monday, Wednesday and Friday to hear the best minds 831 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 1: in politics makes sense of all this chaos. If you 832 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,800 Speaker 1: enjoyed what you've heard, please send it to a friend 833 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,400 Speaker 1: and keep the conversation going. And again, thanks for listening.