WEBVTT - Ep. 180: BEAR GREASE [RENDER] - Mississippi River, Ski Jumping, & Donnie Baker Discussion 0:00:14.680 --> 0:00:17.239 My name is Clay Nukeleman. This is a production of 0:00:17.280 --> 0:00:21.400 the Bear Grease podcast called The Bear Grease Render, where 0:00:21.440 --> 0:00:25.760 we render down, dive deeper, and look behind the scenes 0:00:26.079 --> 0:00:31.320 of the actual bear Grease podcast, presented by f HF Gear, 0:00:31.800 --> 0:00:36.520 American made purpose built hunting and fishing gear that's designed 0:00:36.560 --> 0:00:42.199 to be as rugged as the place as we explore. So, 0:00:42.479 --> 0:00:46.840 what's the nearest town to where we're at? Where would 0:00:46.840 --> 0:00:49.080 you go to buy groceries for your house? 0:00:49.159 --> 0:00:53.519 Mike, Rolling Fork, Rolling Fork, Rolling Fork, Mississippi where the 0:00:53.520 --> 0:00:54.240 tornado hit. 0:00:54.320 --> 0:00:56.760 We are near Rolling Fort, Mississippi. 0:00:56.240 --> 0:00:58.080 Yew about twenty eighty two miles. 0:00:58.120 --> 0:01:03.000 And well, Rolling Fork, Mississippi is where that huge tornado 0:01:03.040 --> 0:01:03.480 came through. 0:01:03.560 --> 0:01:04.080 That's correct. 0:01:04.160 --> 0:01:06.840 And you guys were you were there on the scene, 0:01:06.920 --> 0:01:07.440 Am I right? 0:01:07.560 --> 0:01:11.119 I hope everybody was. Yeah, I mean the whole town. Yeah, 0:01:11.200 --> 0:01:15.959 when Spring was there helping in the spring. Yeah, yeah, 0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:16.840 I think March. 0:01:18.000 --> 0:01:21.960 Yeah, back in March, that terrible tornado. We're in Mississippi. 0:01:22.040 --> 0:01:25.880 We it's dark outside right now, but we're within sight 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:29.839 of the Mississippi River. I've got to my right, Lake 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:32.000 Pickle Houdy, good to see you. 0:01:32.040 --> 0:01:32.240 Lake. 0:01:32.440 --> 0:01:36.280 Likewise, to your right, Jordan bliss It. Hello, you guys 0:01:36.319 --> 0:01:39.600 are old regulars on the Bargeries podcast. Though Oh yeah, second, 0:01:39.600 --> 0:01:42.120 they're sitting here just like, oh man, this is just 0:01:42.160 --> 0:01:43.640 another day in the park, doesn't here. 0:01:44.120 --> 0:01:45.840 I'll tell you this, the last time Jordan and I 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:49.600 were on the Render, i'd gotten used to unusual guests 0:01:49.640 --> 0:01:51.680 being on the render, and then the OG crew roasting 0:01:51.720 --> 0:01:54.040 them the next week, and they never said anything about us. Yeah, 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:55.840 they never said nothing about me and Jordan's that. 0:01:55.920 --> 0:01:59.840 Kind of stopped the the OG group kind of chilled 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:00.560 a little bit. 0:02:00.600 --> 0:02:02.400 I think, Well, I was worried about it. 0:02:02.600 --> 0:02:07.280 Yeah. To Jordan's right, the guest of honor in my mind, 0:02:08.600 --> 0:02:13.960 Mike Amden pleasure man. Mike, I got some specific questions 0:02:13.960 --> 0:02:17.639 for you about the Mississippi River, I hope, yeah, Man. 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:21.920 To to Mike's right, Brent Reeves, It's good to have 0:02:21.960 --> 0:02:25.639 you back. Brent prince regular except when he's not, when 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:31.000 he does whatever he does. And then to Brent's right 0:02:31.360 --> 0:02:40.280 is Drew steckline Man. So Drew is uh your videographer, photographer, 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:47.000 former professional skier. Right on, would you guess that he 0:02:47.200 --> 0:02:51.120 has two L shaped plates on both cheeks of his face? 0:02:51.160 --> 0:02:55.040 I mean I'd wondered why he looked like that, But no, no. 0:02:55.080 --> 0:02:57.240 I actually thought he was pretty well put together. No, 0:02:58.280 --> 0:02:59.080 his face broke up. 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:01.600 Did your face hit or tree or something? 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:02.200 What happened? 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:04.920 I have my uh knee and a skiing accident and 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:08.000 then the other one had collided in somebody else's foot. 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:12.160 Oh yeah, no snow involved. 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:12.880 No snow. 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:14.519 No. 0:03:15.320 --> 0:03:17.680 It's been good to get to meet Drew. And then, uh, 0:03:17.760 --> 0:03:21.720 I guess the the seventh guest of honor is Brent's 0:03:22.000 --> 0:03:24.320 big buck that he killed just today. We've got the 0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:27.760 rack of How about the beautiful zippy delta? 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:30.120 That rack of horns you're that you're holding right now. 0:03:30.200 --> 0:03:34.680 Slept in the woods last night? Yeah, clean up, that 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:35.360 looks good. 0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:36.800 Nice sleeping in the house. 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:39.360 Well, hey, we've got man, do we have a lot 0:03:39.440 --> 0:03:44.280 to talk about? We so the this latest episode of 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:50.120 the Bargers podcast, the Donnie Baker Story Nightmare. This was 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:54.400 a super unique podcast for me to put together. We're 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:57.840 going to talk about it in a little bit, but uh, 0:03:58.000 --> 0:04:01.360 but first, man, I'm always torn on whether we should 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:04.800 talk about what we've been doing. We've been, uh, we've 0:04:04.840 --> 0:04:08.360 been we've been hunting down here in Mississippi. It's January 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:12.520 the January the ninth. Today we've been deer hunting, duck hunting. 0:04:13.400 --> 0:04:14.920 Brent's been doing a little hog hunting. 0:04:15.040 --> 0:04:15.280 Yep. 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:20.320 And uh, Brent and I rode two hundred and fifty 0:04:20.360 --> 0:04:23.680 miles down and Drew and Isaac Neil two hundred and 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:26.400 fifty miles down the Mississippi River to get here. We 0:04:26.440 --> 0:04:30.480 could have just drove here. Would have been a little 0:04:30.520 --> 0:04:34.120 quicker just to drive here. But nah, there's a film 0:04:34.160 --> 0:04:37.039 project that you'll see at some point this year on 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:41.960 Meat Eater that's gonna be gonna be really cool. But uh, Mike, 0:04:42.520 --> 0:04:45.760 how long have you been living close to the Mississippi 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:50.200 Twelve years? Twelve years, last twelve years. But man, you're uh, 0:04:51.200 --> 0:04:53.720 you're a river rat, Mike. I knew that when I 0:04:53.720 --> 0:04:56.960 saw you. You can't really help it, can't help it. 0:04:57.200 --> 0:04:58.320 But you loved catfish. 0:04:58.360 --> 0:05:01.120 You and your wife, Oh yeah, yeah all the time. 0:05:01.440 --> 0:05:04.400 She fishes all the time. I fish part of time. 0:05:04.800 --> 0:05:06.839 She she wants fish every day. 0:05:07.160 --> 0:05:10.039 Yeah, man, I wish we could have put some lines 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:12.839 out on me too. We tried to do some fishing, 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:15.960 which January you wouldn't think would be good for catfishing, 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:18.000 and I mean it's not a traditional time to do it, 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:23.240 but you can catch them in January. Oh yeah, they're 0:05:23.240 --> 0:05:24.640 out there doing catfish stuff. 0:05:25.000 --> 0:05:26.400 But we can catch them here in a month or 0:05:26.440 --> 0:05:27.920 so too. Yeah, be better. 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:31.560 Actually, yeah, what's the biggest what's the biggest blue cat 0:05:31.560 --> 0:05:32.400 you caught out of the river? 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:36.520 Eighty two eighty two pounds? Now, that was on a 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:41.520 that's on a vertical line. Vertical biggest one on My 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:44.719 wife actually caught the biggest blue we got and it 0:05:44.839 --> 0:05:48.680 was seventy six on a pole. And then she's called 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:53.200 seven sixty seven flathead, six seven pound flatthead. 0:05:53.560 --> 0:05:55.560 She and boat records. Right now, that's just kind of 0:05:55.560 --> 0:05:56.159 a weird thing. 0:05:56.200 --> 0:05:59.120 You know when you say vertical line, is that like 0:05:59.160 --> 0:05:59.919 a limb line? 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:03.560 No, like a You just you find your deep hole 0:06:03.560 --> 0:06:05.719 and put your weight on and then you start dropping 0:06:05.760 --> 0:06:08.640 it down and just taking clips and clip your hooks 0:06:08.640 --> 0:06:12.200 on and then have jugs on top. I just started 0:06:12.320 --> 0:06:15.440 this year myself and very productive. 0:06:15.720 --> 0:06:18.920 Huh. So it's a vertical. It's just like I finally 0:06:19.000 --> 0:06:21.920 understood it the second time you described it to me. Right, 0:06:21.960 --> 0:06:24.159 It's just like a trot line, except it goes straight. 0:06:24.720 --> 0:06:26.520 Everything same put a weight. 0:06:26.360 --> 0:06:28.200 On the end and just drop it. And then you 0:06:28.240 --> 0:06:30.680 have some special thing that clips onto. 0:06:30.440 --> 0:06:33.000 The Yeah, it's a little old trout line clip where 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:35.680 you hook on it. We fish leaders about like that. 0:06:36.160 --> 0:06:39.279 So you so you've got a bunch of different hooks, 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:41.120 are different depths that way exactly. 0:06:42.080 --> 0:06:43.520 So you know how you tie off the bank. 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:44.960 You know, you kind of stretch it out there and 0:06:45.000 --> 0:06:47.839 on your first you know, a few catch or whatever 0:06:47.960 --> 0:06:48.320 this is. 0:06:48.400 --> 0:06:49.400 You got every depth. 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:51.000 Huh works great? 0:06:51.320 --> 0:06:55.159 Now, Okay, Mike, the Achilles heel of the vertical trout line, 0:06:55.520 --> 0:06:56.880 what if it gets hung up down there? 0:06:58.680 --> 0:07:01.200 You really don't not it's sepidary. I mean there's not 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:04.040 that much structure anyway. And uh you always round by 0:07:04.120 --> 0:07:05.479 them docks and it's pretty clean. 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:07.920 So does the. 0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:11.120 It's more for you'll catch more blue calf than you 0:07:11.160 --> 0:07:12.000 do flatheads. 0:07:12.000 --> 0:07:16.560 Okay. Second problem, potential problem. You get thirty fish on 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:19.080 the same line, they all get in cahoots together and 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:20.280 take that sucker down. 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:25.560 I hadn't had that happen, but I could see it 0:07:25.600 --> 0:07:26.080 to be an issue. 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:29.080 But I mean, if we've had some big I mean 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:31.280 we've had you know, ten or twelve at a time, 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:33.000 on there and it's. 0:07:32.600 --> 0:07:36.120 Stay hood the catfish yourselfish. They'll never work it out amongst. 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:38.840 Yeah, they're like they're pulling against each other. And you 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:41.560 can take your live view and get back and look 0:07:41.600 --> 0:07:43.640 at it and your line's gonna have a little bow 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:46.680 in it and come back up to them jugs and 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:51.000 you just get there behind them rock docks. They usually 0:07:51.000 --> 0:07:54.960 only next morning. Bait's a big thing. What do you 0:07:55.000 --> 0:07:55.880 what are you using? 0:07:56.360 --> 0:07:57.040 Skip jack? 0:07:57.200 --> 0:07:57.320 Uh? 0:07:58.040 --> 0:08:01.120 Is a live wildfish that lives in this river. 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:02.280 Yes, skip jack. 0:08:02.760 --> 0:08:05.120 It's just like a shiners. 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:07.640 Yeah, exactly, and so oli is right behind these rock dikes. 0:08:07.640 --> 0:08:15.040 It's natural and works great. I love brim. Yeah, this 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:17.320 according time of year it is, you know, that's a 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:17.760 big thing. 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:19.320 Springtime. I want them live. 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:22.120 I want that live bait hook them right in the tail. 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:23.680 Yeah. 0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:26.720 But I mean some of these old timers right here 0:08:26.880 --> 0:08:28.520 is me and they're going to their skip jack all 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:31.480 the way through and they don't want fool with live bait, 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:33.280 and they catch a lot. 0:08:33.880 --> 0:08:34.439 Yeah. 0:08:34.640 --> 0:08:36.679 Yeah, there's several guys in this river. I want to 0:08:36.720 --> 0:08:39.320 fish with it. I just met some of them last year. 0:08:39.720 --> 0:08:40.280 Yeah. 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:43.679 Well, we had on the Bear Grease podcast as a 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:46.520 as a formal guest, Bill Lancaster, I told you about. 0:08:46.559 --> 0:08:49.320 Oh yeah, man, he's a he's a heck of a guy. 0:08:49.640 --> 0:08:53.839 If you go in the Wildlife Museum in Leland, Mississippi. Uh, 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:58.040 he's he's got a whole section in that Wildlife Museum 0:08:58.280 --> 0:09:00.559 of all his It's just a bunch of pictures and 0:09:00.679 --> 0:09:02.880 much of neat stuff. But he's a cool guy. He's 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:03.400 a cool guy. 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:04.040 And we catch. 0:09:04.559 --> 0:09:06.680 We're doing this burk line fishing stuff a little bit, 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:08.760 but we were ninety percent. 0:09:08.640 --> 0:09:11.199 Pole fish, pole fishing. You want real men. 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:12.000 Yeah, we fish. 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:15.320 We fish up down this bank, all up through behind 0:09:15.320 --> 0:09:19.599 these dykes. Sometimes we take the buck, you know, we 0:09:19.679 --> 0:09:21.319 fish out of the boat out there, but still fishing 0:09:21.320 --> 0:09:23.520 the same spots. But it's kind of handy just to 0:09:23.600 --> 0:09:26.640 leave the house and go these sand bars and yeah, 0:09:26.840 --> 0:09:28.880 set them up and go back, eat souper, go back, 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:29.560 check them. 0:09:29.720 --> 0:09:33.080 Yeah works good. And I gotta get I want to 0:09:33.080 --> 0:09:35.280 come down here sometime and fish with you when it's good. 0:09:35.320 --> 0:09:38.400 And I know. So we were playing this deer hunt, 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:41.720 duck hunt, and I'm gonna let Jordan talk about the 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:45.240 duck hunt. But uh we uh, we kind of threw 0:09:45.240 --> 0:09:48.760 on the catfishing deal there at the end. It wasn't 0:09:49.240 --> 0:09:53.920 it wasn't a perfect time at all. But no, Jordan, 0:09:54.440 --> 0:09:55.160 Jordan Lake. 0:09:55.440 --> 0:09:55.959 I was looking. 0:09:56.000 --> 0:09:58.040 I was looking at Lake and said Jordan Dan. 0:09:58.160 --> 0:10:00.840 I thought I was don't get the roasting. 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:06.800 I couldn't believe it's be brutal. 0:10:07.280 --> 0:10:10.760 So Lake, you work for on X, do you work 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:14.760 for open season properties? You sell real estate Mississippi? What 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:15.920 else do you do with your life? 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:18.560 I mean that's where we could end it right there. 0:10:18.640 --> 0:10:23.160 I mean those two things. Duck God, if I was duck, 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:28.080 if I was duck guiding, I would be filing for 0:10:28.200 --> 0:10:31.520 unemployment after this last go round. 0:10:32.120 --> 0:10:33.240 But it's not your fault. 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:38.240 The same same morning the other morning, and they was there, 0:10:38.280 --> 0:10:40.120 and they might they would thank you. 0:10:40.200 --> 0:10:42.679 Yeah, you're not supposed to help him. 0:10:43.080 --> 0:10:46.200 Well, so yeah, I mean mine on me too. You know, 0:10:46.400 --> 0:10:47.520 my group didn't kill either. 0:10:48.080 --> 0:10:50.120 Mike's on the north side of this property. I'm on 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:53.120 the south side. Before I'd even talked to Mike, I 0:10:53.160 --> 0:10:55.040 text y'all and I said, dunk report. I think what 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:57.360 I said is good, not great, like it wouldn't loaded. 0:10:57.400 --> 0:11:00.200 But I was like, there's definitely enough here, and I 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:02.280 go talk to Mike and Nick and they're like, oh, yeah, man, 0:11:02.320 --> 0:11:07.760 they're here. And then we go out that next morning and. 0:11:06.520 --> 0:11:08.040 We all kind of looked like fools there. 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:18.240 I mean, we killed a duck, a duck, Paul shot him, right, No, 0:11:18.400 --> 0:11:20.920 it was it was neat hunting down in this country. Man. 0:11:21.040 --> 0:11:25.400 It feels like, I know, in Arkansas, which is further 0:11:25.520 --> 0:11:27.960 north than here, the guys talk about how the ducks 0:11:27.960 --> 0:11:30.600 aren't coming as far south. It's taking them longer to 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:34.200 get there, and down here it's it's it's a whole 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:36.760 nother it's a whole nother deal. I mean, but still 0:11:36.800 --> 0:11:40.080 you're getting some good mallard duck duck hunting. 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:44.080 Typically it I mean where where we were at obviously, 0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:47.559 the Mississippi River and all that, you know, Floodplain Louvia 0:11:47.640 --> 0:11:51.640 Valley is just historically good duck area. And uh, I mean, 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:53.440 y'all see it. Y'all are on the river. It's just 0:11:53.520 --> 0:11:56.360 so low and it's such a lack of water and 0:11:56.559 --> 0:11:59.719 warm been dry and it just just not down here. 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:02.280 It's historic lows on the Mississippi River, is that right? 0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:02.760 For sure? 0:12:03.360 --> 0:12:04.120 Historic lows. 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:07.760 I mean it's it's never been three foot of food 0:12:07.800 --> 0:12:09.200 hunting seasons as I've been here. 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:13.200 Okay, I've talked about this before. And when you say 0:12:13.280 --> 0:12:16.520 three foot describe to somebody who doesn't know that's going 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:19.600 on in gauge. So where is zero? 0:12:21.679 --> 0:12:22.800 Like what like? 0:12:22.880 --> 0:12:25.760 What at what reference point is zero? If it's three 0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:27.160 foot above something? 0:12:27.240 --> 0:12:27.840 What's zero? 0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:29.640 Anybody know? 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:31.559 I can't answer that, but it has to be off 0:12:31.600 --> 0:12:33.520 the marker down there at Vicksburg Breed. 0:12:33.720 --> 0:12:35.520 So it does go in the negatives. 0:12:35.880 --> 0:12:38.760 Well, so so okay, let me let me teach you 0:12:38.800 --> 0:12:44.120 boys something I'm deducing. No, they must just have like 0:12:44.160 --> 0:12:48.760 a normal normalcy that they decided was zero. And they 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:51.280 just said it like this is normal flow of the river. 0:12:51.840 --> 0:12:56.240 Am I right? That sounds right? Experts. I've come all 0:12:56.280 --> 0:12:59.280 the way to the Mississippi River experts. 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:01.960 We just it's a little more confidence there. I would 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:03.240 have said, that's exactly one. 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:05.600 I mean, it's I guess it's gotta be here's because. 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:07.120 It's yeah, here's what I know. 0:13:07.280 --> 0:13:09.240 It's like you talk to these guys like Mike that's 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:11.680 on this property and then at cotton Mouth, which is 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:13.880 north of here. But all these guys that spend time 0:13:13.920 --> 0:13:17.320 on their particular property, they can tell you what river gauge. 0:13:17.360 --> 0:13:19.000 Like if they if they look at the Vicksburg gage, 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:20.839 for instance, they know if I tell Mike what's the 0:13:20.920 --> 0:13:23.120 river doing at twenty two feet, he can tell you, yeah, 0:13:23.120 --> 0:13:24.600 you know, I mean, because he knows what happens on 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:25.960 that property with different levels. 0:13:26.040 --> 0:13:27.680 Well, so I was looking at a map. There's a 0:13:27.679 --> 0:13:29.920 big there's a big map in one of the rooms 0:13:29.960 --> 0:13:33.400 of this property on the wall, and there's a legend 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:36.400 like this is really cool because you wouldn't have this 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:40.319 anywhere else. There's a legend. And then the legend that says, 0:13:40.400 --> 0:13:44.080 at twenty two feet this and this floods, and it 0:13:44.160 --> 0:13:47.480 describes places on the property that are named at thirty feet, 0:13:47.520 --> 0:13:51.400 this happens. At fifteen feet, this happens. And you kind of, 0:13:52.400 --> 0:13:54.080 I guess if you get to know a place, you 0:13:54.200 --> 0:13:57.560 understand exactly what that river's going to do. And so 0:13:57.679 --> 0:14:00.680 you've got this property along the river that you're managing, 0:14:01.120 --> 0:14:05.040 and at different flood stages, different sections are gonna flood. 0:14:05.080 --> 0:14:06.560 Well you go to hunting it and stuff. 0:14:06.600 --> 0:14:08.640 Well, you need to know if the road if you're 0:14:08.640 --> 0:14:11.520 close to the road going under and you've got five 0:14:11.559 --> 0:14:14.080 people and you're going north with them, and you get 0:14:14.080 --> 0:14:16.480 there and you know, you don't know that it's fixing 0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:18.760 me over that road. Then the whole morning is messed 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:20.920 up for everybody. Yeah, so you got to keep up 0:14:20.960 --> 0:14:21.480 with all that. 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:23.960 Well, I mean we experienced that this week when we 0:14:23.960 --> 0:14:26.160 were trying to get to an island. So the property 0:14:26.160 --> 0:14:28.480 that you manage, Mike has A has A has an 0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:31.040 island in a correct island in the Mississippi River, right 0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:33.720 which there are. There are a lot of islands in 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:37.520 the Mississippi River, even though they're all unique and really dynamic. 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:40.720 So we were gonna go hunt the island. And for 0:14:40.760 --> 0:14:42.560 the last four months you could drive to the. 0:14:42.520 --> 0:14:45.760 Island, drive until two days before we are one. When 0:14:45.920 --> 0:14:47.840 I was here, we didn't even know that we couldn't 0:14:47.840 --> 0:14:48.920 get to it. We thought we can still. 0:14:49.040 --> 0:14:51.120 Yeah, we had our bows and we're gonna drive over 0:14:51.120 --> 0:14:53.560 there and go hunting. And the river came up two 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:55.840 feet just overnight, which two. 0:14:55.640 --> 0:14:58.960 Feet, and he really out there because it spreads out 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:02.040 because you know, aft on that same bar and it just. 0:15:02.480 --> 0:15:05.760 Spreads out quick and so it it messed up our 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:07.840 We had to get a boat and we ended up 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:11.040 boating over to the island. You know, I spent some 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:14.720 time in Alaska, well just in December, but I was 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:18.680 also there in May. And the tide swings in southeast 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:21.680 Alaska are some of the biggest tide swings in the world, 0:15:21.840 --> 0:15:25.720 like massive tides, so everywhere you go, you're constantly calculating 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:29.880 for the tide and those guys just have to be 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:32.400 able to read it so that they don't get stranded 0:15:32.520 --> 0:15:35.200 or they don't kill themselves in some way with the 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:38.000 tides low going through certain places, you know, like when 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:40.720 the tides low, there's gonna be rocks in that little channel, 0:15:40.800 --> 0:15:41.480 or when. 0:15:41.400 --> 0:15:44.040 The tide's high you could drive a big boat through there. 0:15:45.000 --> 0:15:48.880 I'm this is like that same thing. I'm just different scale, 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:52.920 but same thing. Yeah, same problems. Yeah, and just just 0:15:53.000 --> 0:15:54.600 like all the day y'all trying to get there, and 0:15:54.640 --> 0:15:57.080 we thought, you know, they just y'all just drive around, 0:15:57.080 --> 0:15:59.040 come up around a certain spot, drop y'all off, and 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:02.040 uh like that, everything went chaos. 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:02.960 Yeah. 0:16:03.120 --> 0:16:05.600 Yeah, but they got your handled, they got you on 0:16:05.640 --> 0:16:06.000 the water. 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:07.920 Yeah yeah, yeah they did. 0:16:08.880 --> 0:16:09.200 Yeah. 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:11.800 That was kind of unexpected. That's kind of unexpected. Little 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:15.040 you know, we wasn't playing on getting boat and the 0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:17.640 water anything is. I mean, just we got it done though. 0:16:17.520 --> 0:16:18.280 The boys did. 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:19.360 Oh it was. 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:21.640 It was funner taking that boat over there than oh, 0:16:21.720 --> 0:16:25.600 yeah before, wasn't it? Brent probably better hunting Brent. So 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:29.680 I've spent uh two hundred and fifty miles with Brent 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:34.160 as my I was the on our boat, our vessel, 0:16:34.320 --> 0:16:38.680 which I gotta explain this. We've talked about this. Our boat. 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:43.000 We named it Laura. Do you know why, Jordan, we 0:16:43.120 --> 0:16:43.760 named it Laura. 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:44.520 Oh? 0:16:44.560 --> 0:16:49.800 The iceberg close close? Okay, Well, the ice sheet, so 0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:54.320 the Lauren Tide ice sheet formed the upper part. Well, 0:16:54.440 --> 0:16:57.760 it formed the Mississippi River valley. So naturally we named 0:16:57.760 --> 0:17:02.400 our boat Laura. So was the captain of Laura. I 0:17:02.560 --> 0:17:06.960 was the cub pilot. Okay, and about fifty miles in 0:17:07.240 --> 0:17:11.639 like like like Samuel Clemens, like you know, Mark Twain, 0:17:13.840 --> 0:17:17.959 fifty miles in, I said Brent. And I'm not an 0:17:18.040 --> 0:17:22.679 experienced river man. The weakness. If you were just to 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:25.639 pitch me out into the wilderness, I would probably like 0:17:25.800 --> 0:17:28.760 die in a river. But if I had to tame 0:17:28.800 --> 0:17:31.360 a horse or a mule and ride it across the mountains, 0:17:31.400 --> 0:17:33.879 I'm good. If I need to drive an ATV in 0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:38.880 extreme circumstances I'm good. If I need to walk or hike, 0:17:38.960 --> 0:17:42.600 I'm good. Boat is my biggest weakness in wilderness travel 0:17:43.119 --> 0:17:47.440 fifty miles in, I say, Captain, I think it's time 0:17:47.480 --> 0:17:49.879 for Clay to take the wheel. And I mean I 0:17:49.880 --> 0:17:53.680 can drive a boat, but but not a lot of experience. 0:17:53.960 --> 0:17:56.520 And I pretty much drove the last two hundred miles. 0:17:56.640 --> 0:17:57.640 Did it not? You did? 0:17:58.400 --> 0:17:58.840 How to do? 0:17:59.200 --> 0:18:01.800 You did? Very well? You did? You really did. 0:18:02.520 --> 0:18:06.879 It was time to load across that current. I saw that. 0:18:07.280 --> 0:18:10.120 I don't know if if I was going to say that, Mike, 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:11.680 I appreciate you bringing that. 0:18:11.760 --> 0:18:13.880 Oh, dude, I'm the first one. 0:18:14.720 --> 0:18:17.000 It was. It's different, isn't it. 0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:20.399 Oh, it's tough, a lot of there's a lot of 0:18:20.560 --> 0:18:23.800 physics that goes into loading a boat in the current, 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:27.359 and loading a big boat is our. 0:18:27.280 --> 0:18:29.520 Boat, and then a cross current on top of that. 0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:33.040 Yeah, I chickened out. I chickened out. So I drove 0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:36.160 that boat two hundred miles down the river, passing barges, 0:18:36.280 --> 0:18:39.879 I mean, doing everything. And when we I told him 0:18:39.880 --> 0:18:44.080 I've loaded a smaller boat in a trailer. But yeah, 0:18:44.080 --> 0:18:46.600 we had the nine mile per hour current going down 0:18:46.640 --> 0:18:50.199 the river. And then I had you and and the 0:18:50.240 --> 0:18:53.040 other two guys on the bank, and it was raining 0:18:53.720 --> 0:18:56.080 and I tried to hit it, and I got right 0:18:56.119 --> 0:18:57.560 up to it and chickened out and threw it. 0:18:59.000 --> 0:19:01.840 He had a good approach, though, didn't he did. 0:19:02.560 --> 0:19:04.640 And Brent was trying to make it like a teaching thing. 0:19:04.680 --> 0:19:06.679 He's like, now, come on, Clay, you're gonna do I 0:19:06.680 --> 0:19:08.640 could tell he was like, this is a learning experience. 0:19:08.680 --> 0:19:11.040 You're going to do this. And I finally just said, Brent, 0:19:11.280 --> 0:19:13.119 get in his seat, put this thing in the in 0:19:13.160 --> 0:19:16.080 the trailer. I'm I'll learn another time when there's not 0:19:16.280 --> 0:19:21.280 ten people standing here watching camera. Yeah. 0:19:21.400 --> 0:19:24.200 Well it's a boat. I mean, good gosh, it ain't 0:19:24.320 --> 0:19:26.920 like we're loading a john boat. This thing is twenty 0:19:26.960 --> 0:19:27.879 seven feet long. 0:19:28.160 --> 0:19:28.640