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Speaker 1: I'm celebrating twenty five years of Jaguar's football. There's the staff,

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Speaker 1: the place, but the kick is a Fitters on the way.

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Speaker 1: It's like Collas Jaguars. Did you Jack, Jack Warris, did

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Speaker 1: you Jaguars Drive Time? Ryan Sex steps that John Ashley.

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Drive Time starts right now. Good morning and welcome

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Speaker 1: Jack's Drive Time Wednesday morning, brought to you by Duval

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Speaker 1: Motor Company. The last preseason game tomorrow night against the

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Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons coming to town. And right before the show,

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Speaker 1: I was showing John, who's a huge fan of pop sockets,

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Speaker 1: my Jaguar pop socket. Bought it at Target, and it's

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Speaker 1: the best fifth teen dollars I've ever spent, ever spent. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: look how fitting it is. I'm on brand now every

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Speaker 1: day with my pop socket. I'd have to think about

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Speaker 1: what's the best fifteen dollars I've ever spent. It was

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Speaker 1: probably bottle of wine or what you buy every night.

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Speaker 1: Uh not every night, but yeah, no, witch is a

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Speaker 1: standard in my house. My pop socket free, which makes

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Speaker 1: it better than your pop socket. It's just simply not better.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know what that is. It's a new era,

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Speaker 1: I believe I got it, John, You're you're not fond

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Speaker 1: of spending fifteen on anything anything much less identified that.

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Speaker 1: That's fifteen dollars you've spent maybe in the last week.

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Speaker 1: Usually when I'm spending fifteen dollars, I'm usually feeling pain.

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Speaker 1: I would guess an album back in the days, back

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Speaker 1: that was usually the price. So what's the best album

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Speaker 1: I mean that's too tough. Probably Britney Spears. Yeah, one

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Speaker 1: or justin Bieber because I h I'm a believer, I

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Speaker 1: am people. I'm just I'm gonna sit here and watching

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Speaker 1: from policious. I've never heard that term, and I never

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Speaker 1: want to hear it again. All Right, As we know,

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Speaker 1: the final roster is set this week, and a big

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Speaker 1: thing one is anything is possible. A lot of guys

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Speaker 1: fighting for those final spots on the roster. But you

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Speaker 1: fighting that same fight, and he's a perfect example that

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Speaker 1: anything is possible on this roster. It's something that they

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Speaker 1: really learned on their own. But you know, I always

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Speaker 1: tell my story to them, you know, just to let

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Speaker 1: them know that anybody could really do it. If I

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Speaker 1: was able to, why can't you. And just always stay

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Speaker 1: in there corn let them know if they need any

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Speaker 1: help that I'm here to help them. And that's one

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Speaker 1: thing that I've been doing so we know this league

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Speaker 1: is definitely unpredictable. And big thing too is you never

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Speaker 1: It's not just rookies and guys who are you know,

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Speaker 1: because there's you're always walking that line, you know, between

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Speaker 1: And big thing three is a balancing act. We've been

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Speaker 1: asked a lot this week. Is Nick Foles ready for

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Speaker 1: the regular season. He's barely gotten any snaps this preseason

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Speaker 1: we asked Nick Foles that post game after the Dolphins game,

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Speaker 1: of the season with a you know, torn elbow, um,

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Speaker 1: So guys, let's go back all the way to big thing.

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Speaker 1: When you look at a J Boy, who's a perfect

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Speaker 1: the payoff, right, Doug Marone, he's hoping that in getting

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Speaker 1: He understands there's only so much the body has in it.

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Speaker 1: to a hospital and that he's never had surgery before

427
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Speaker 1: and that it was very nerve racking for him in

428
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Speaker 1: this locker room, you know, talked him up. But when

429
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Speaker 1: they said you have to have surgery right now, He's like,

430
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Speaker 1: whoa right now? But they all explain, you want it

431
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Speaker 1: right now, you want to get this fixed right now.

432
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Speaker 1: He's going to become a story, um if he's what

433
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Speaker 1: we think that he is. But it's it's remarkable to

434
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Speaker 1: me that you have a second team All Pro Pro

435
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Speaker 1: Bowl linebacker and Telvin Smith who is not here, who

436
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 1: walked away from the game. That was a huge storyline

437
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,920
Speaker 1: for us back in the spring, and we really haven't

438
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Speaker 1: talked about him at all because Quincy Williams showed us

439
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,560
Speaker 1: speed and playmaking ability on the field during O T

440
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Speaker 1: A s and early in training camp and we said,

441
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Speaker 1: oh on confidence in him in the building is very

442
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Speaker 1: very very very very high. But it's still as remarkable

443
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Speaker 1: that we're not. I mean, I heard somebody yesterday on

444
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Speaker 1: NFL Network they were talking about where the Jaguars were

445
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Speaker 1: weak on defensive and now look they don't have Talvin

446
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Speaker 1: Smith anymore. Well, to people outside the building, that's a

447
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Speaker 1: that's a huge loss. Telvin Smith was a well known

448
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Speaker 1: he was on NFL Network all the time he's you know,

449
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 1: they're not worried about it. People either Quincy Williams, Murray S.

450
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Speaker 1: They oh my god, that's a step down. Just wait,

451
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Speaker 1: you'll combined the addition of Josh Allen slash Quincy Williams

452
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Speaker 1: more than makes that for the lost Televins and the

453
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Speaker 1: people in Kansas City. We're talking about Tyreek Hill a

454
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,680
Speaker 1: few years ago from West Georgia. Right, Everyone's like, what's

455
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Speaker 1: this kid gonna do? They knew, right, and now we

456
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,879
Speaker 1: all know it could be the same thing with Williams

457
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Speaker 1: if he's an impactful on the defensive side of the ball.

458
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Speaker 1: All right, let's wrap it up with Rick Heyo. It

459
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Speaker 1: feels like defensive tackle Taven Brian is way undersized physically

460
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Speaker 1: to play on Jvill's line. Does not feel like he

461
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Speaker 1: gets any initial push at the snap of the ball.

462
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Speaker 1: How does he stack up versus other guys up front?

463
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Speaker 1: From a combined standpoint, I included this not to mock Rick,

464
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Speaker 1: but that's ridiculous. I knew what's Taven Brian up. Brian

465
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Speaker 1: is huge. Brian has become such a hot button issue

466
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Speaker 1: among fans that should look to criticize everything. Um he

467
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Speaker 1: clearly as falls as a player or or he would

468
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Speaker 1: be starting a he's he hasn't played well enough to start,

469
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Speaker 1: but he's definitely going to be on the team and

470
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Speaker 1: should be on the team. He's definitely one of the

471
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Speaker 1: best six or seven linement on his team. Undersized physically,

472
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Speaker 1: my god, that he's kind of a granted line. I

473
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Speaker 1: mean he's physical, speed, strength, size x whatever of of

474
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Speaker 1: the things that are holding him back. That ain't it

475
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Speaker 1: sensational in terms of the combined numbers, in terms of

476
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Speaker 1: bench press, of is his his three cone drill. All

477
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Speaker 1: of that was off the charts, which is why the

478
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Speaker 1: Jaguars felt comfortable. And he's gotten knocked off the ball

479
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Speaker 1: a couple of times, and I think that's what's causing

480
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Speaker 1: people the things see that played. Do they see him

481
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Speaker 1: push the pocket, which he does to His biggest problem

482
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 1: isn't below the neck, it's above them. He forgets or

483
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Speaker 1: doesn't know or lose his track of what he's supposed

484
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Speaker 1: to do. If you if you're on the sideline. And

485
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Speaker 1: we were in Miami and the coaches were furious on

486
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Speaker 1: a couple of different pass rushes because he did the

487
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Speaker 1: wrong thing right. That's where his issue is. Not Rick

488
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Speaker 1: go look at the kid. He was built to play

489
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Speaker 1: the position. There is no strength issue with this kid.

490
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Speaker 1: It's technique and what he's supposed to do that you

491
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Speaker 1: hope you can fix. I mean, he is his second

492
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Speaker 1: year and by the way, they never thought he was

493
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Speaker 1: going to be All Pro as a rookie or as

494
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Speaker 1: a second year player. They hope that he would grow

495
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Speaker 1: into a starter who could replace Molley Jackson by year three.

496
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 1: We're not there yet. It's almost a guarantee that Tavin

497
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Speaker 1: Bryan is in the snapshot for weeks to come. I

498
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 1: can feel it now. Yeah, yeah, it makes some place

499
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Speaker 1: because his first round pick. If he had been picked

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Speaker 1: five picks later at the top of the second he's

501
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Speaker 1: less of a story. But that's the nature. If he'd

502
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Speaker 1: been a first round pick twenty years ago, we wouldn't

503
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Speaker 1: even be talking about him yet, you know what I mean,

504
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Speaker 1: because first round picks weren't expected to contribute. Then. Not

505
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Speaker 1: his fault that he wasn't ready to go. They have

506
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Speaker 1: had a plan for him all along. They'd like him

507
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Speaker 1: to be further along than he is. They're pushing him

508
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Speaker 1: to get there. The kid wants to If you talk

509
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Speaker 1: to him, he wants to now the question is canny

510
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Speaker 1: and it's all from here up alright, Stay tuned on

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551
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Speaker 1: them new to say. I still don't like him? All right?

552
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: Are you guys ready for Frashla so we don't have

553
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: talk about the seminals anymore. Who are you paying attention

554
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 1: to on Thursday? Could be a borderline guy, could be

555
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 1: a guy that you need to see make a play

556
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Speaker 1: to make this team. We talked about that. There's very

557
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: few spots left for that. But who's the guy you're

558
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Speaker 1: looking to make an impact Thursday night preseason against the

559
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Speaker 1: Falcons by Stump John he's a racing he's stressed, let's

560
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: see it. Brian Josh Walls. He's on the borderline. Uh.

561
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Speaker 1: He's a guy that John and I talked about last

562
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Speaker 1: year when Cam Robinson got hurt. Could be playing for

563
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Speaker 1: a big contract a year ago at this time, well

564
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: a year ago in October, we thought he was a

565
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: guy that Jaguars wouldn't be able to afford this year

566
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: because he was playing well and look to be a

567
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Speaker 1: guy who was going to get a contract, and now

568
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: he's a guy with a daughter and another child on

569
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Speaker 1: the way, who is fighting for maybe the last offensive

570
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Speaker 1: line spot. Centrical way he comes in here and plays well.

571
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: He's got the hamstring, but when Wells is right, when

572
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: he's healthy, uh, he is quality depth at both left

573
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Speaker 1: and right tackle. So I'm looking for him to get

574
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Speaker 1: through the game unscathed and for him to play well

575
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Speaker 1: while he's out there, because I think he's a guy

576
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Speaker 1: that Doug Marone, who coached him the first couple of

577
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Speaker 1: years of his his NFL career, would like to have

578
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Speaker 1: in his his offensive line room. Um, I had a list.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think Tyvan's gonna play, but he's clearly

580
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:38,239
Speaker 1: on their roster. Um and guys like Josh Robinson, uh,

581
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 1: wind Guard our guys to watch for the bubble. But

582
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Gardner Minshew, Uh, he's on the team.

583
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 1: He's gonna be the backup. I'm ncent sure. But they

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Speaker 1: haven't scored with him yet, and he's looked better and

585
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Speaker 1: better and better. But Doug, when he was talking in

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Speaker 1: the press comments yesterday, so we still need see more

587
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Speaker 1: from him. And I know some of that motivation, but

588
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 1: they also as good as he's looked, there's still some

589
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: up and down with him. He still needs to play

590
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 1: better to give them a good feeling going in the

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00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 1: season to back up quarterbacks. I would have liked, and

592
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Speaker 1: that this is an issue with not playing starters in

593
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Speaker 1: the preseason. I would have liked to see him with

594
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Speaker 1: the first offensive line, with the first skill position players

595
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: and see what he can do. I mean, let's be honest,

596
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 1: He's playing behind a different group of linemen nearly every series.

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00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: They're mixing and match any of the guys he's played with, absolutely,

598
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Speaker 1: so I don't know that we have, uh the ability

599
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Speaker 1: to get a good look at him. But you've watched

600
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks a lot, having seen Peyton, you know what good is,

601
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Speaker 1: so you know I get it. I understand why you

602
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Speaker 1: want to see him and to see if he can

603
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Speaker 1: make some money. He's looking I thought in the last

604
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Speaker 1: couple of weeks he's looked dramatically better. But again with

605
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Speaker 1: a rookie, these snaps could be the last he gets

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Speaker 1: in any sort of meaningful time until next August, so

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00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: they're important absolutely all right, now, John, I know what

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Speaker 1: you're gonna say to this question, because you're gonna say

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Speaker 1: work never makes me sad, But who would you be

610
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Speaker 1: kind of bombed to see not make this team. I'll

611
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: get it, get them all out of here, that's fine.

612
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 1: I'm just like out. I know that you are deeply

613
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Speaker 1: emotional and get sad about things like this, so I'm

614
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Speaker 1: sure you will have a list of guys. I stumped

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Speaker 1: you out again. Yeah, I guess I've been at it

616
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Speaker 1: long enough to know. You know, they're football players and

617
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Speaker 1: they come and they go, so you go, and all

618
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Speaker 1: they would all be sad to I was going to

619
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Speaker 1: put him. I was going to put him. I'm saying

620
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Speaker 1: Quentin meeks Um because I don't think he's gonna make

621
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Speaker 1: the team. Uh. He may be, he may has impressed

622
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Speaker 1: quite eligibility. I think he's a guy they would bring

623
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Speaker 1: back quickly if there was an emergency situation at corner.

624
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: But it, uh, it feels to me like perhaps the

625
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 1: lack of speed because him not to be drafted has

626
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: heard him during this camp. I hate to see it

627
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Speaker 1: because in talking to him a couple of times last year,

628
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: very good kid, Uh, very together. He's going to succeed

629
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Speaker 1: in life no matter what happens in football. But uh,

630
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: you know, I do think he's probably on the bubble

631
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: and won't be on the initial roster. Although there's always

632
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Speaker 1: ten guys like that Brian that you say goodbye to

633
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: and then they're back and they're around. I think he's

634
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: gonna be guys around the league for a long time.

635
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: He played so well in Philadelphia. I'm sorry against Philadelphia

636
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Speaker 1: in London last year. Once he get him in the game,

637
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: he makes plays if he's around the ball, so and

638
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: then he got hurt and then we never really got

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Speaker 1: another chans. I was going to put him and I'll

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Speaker 1: go back to the well, right, I would be sorry.

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Speaker 1: I would be sorry to see him go because I

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Speaker 1: think he's a great guy. Has has dug some roots

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Speaker 1: into the community. As I mentioned, you know, he's got

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Speaker 1: another child on the way he told me was excited about.

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Speaker 1: But I think he's a hell of a football player

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Speaker 1: football player. He might not be a starter, but he's

647
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Speaker 1: a guy that you want your locker room. He does

648
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Speaker 1: everything that you ask. He gives you a hundred percent

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Speaker 1: and effort, and he's a good enough player to step

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Speaker 1: in and play to three games left or right. That

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Speaker 1: kind of value I hate to see go. I would.

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Speaker 1: I would hate to see him go. Yeah. After talking

653
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Speaker 1: to Josh Robinson yesterday, I now am pulling for him.

654
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Speaker 1: Great guy was talking about how much he appreciates his

655
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Speaker 1: time being here because he played college football with a

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Speaker 1: j Boys. I hope. So he's really impressive guying you

657
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: guys haven't talked to him yet. Yeah, good guy, very

658
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Speaker 1: good special teams player to absolutely all right. Final Ashland

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Speaker 1: ask describe the atmosphere for the home opener next week. Now,

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Speaker 1: we don't want to describe the atmosphere for Thursday because

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Speaker 1: we know it's not going to be the same. But

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Speaker 1: it's crazy to think that next week the Kansas City

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Speaker 1: Chiefs come to town in this stadium. Brian's gonna go

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Speaker 1: with a negative. I don't know, is it negative? You

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00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: know what? It could be a positive hot. It's going

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Speaker 1: to be smoking hot. One o'clock on. I knew that

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Speaker 1: was coming on the a UM. I remember remember the

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Speaker 1: Steelers coming in. They were coming off the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: They were fat and happy they lost the Super Bowl. Uh,

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00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: you know they had beaten the Jaguars once in that

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00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: first season. I don't know that they took them all

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00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: that seriously. And it was so hot that Chad Brown

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Speaker 1: and Levon Kirkland and all those great Steeler defenders were

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00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:24,359
Speaker 1: falling down in the third quarter. Um. I think it's

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00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: gonna be hot, and I think Kansas City is it's

676
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: unbelievable offense. But I think that the Jaguars and the

677
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,600
Speaker 1: fans are going to embrace the fact that the thermometer

678
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: is gonna say a hundred and twenty. They might break

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00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: it and make it say a hundred and thirty. Right. Um,

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00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: it is going to be hot, and I think people

681
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: are gonna be excited. They're gonna be hot. They're gonna stink.

682
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Speaker 1: Uh you will too when you come off the field.

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Speaker 1: But it is, it's it's gonna be blazing. Sorry about

684
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: the smoking hot thing. I think that's so much. It's

685
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Speaker 1: like paths dog. I just um. I think it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be chaos. Uh. And I think the fans are gonna

687
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: be juiced up for it. I think they're gonna be ready.

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00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:10,760
Speaker 1: It's a um. It's a game that will be sold

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Speaker 1: out max capacity all that stuff, And I think the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars defense will add to the chaos because when they

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Speaker 1: played Kansas City last year, I anticipated being one of

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Speaker 1: those games that was just absolute intensity whenever the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: defense was playing the Kansa City offense, and that was

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Speaker 1: surprising that offense and that there were things they weren't

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Speaker 1: prepared for even though they came in hot. I think

696
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: they had a chance to do that last year until

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00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:37,359
Speaker 1: the offense sort of went off the rails, I think

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00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 1: was it was turning into that sort of game. They

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Speaker 1: had intercepted Mahomes early. Remember I think twice in that

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Speaker 1: game they intercepted him for right, So there's there's that

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Speaker 1: potential um if they can create that kind of atmosphere confusion, uh,

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Speaker 1: a play into the heat, get him frustrated, wonder what's

703
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Speaker 1: going on. I think the whole game has a chance

704
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: to be one of those where people are watching it

705
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Speaker 1: going what's going on, where you're trying to take notes.

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Speaker 1: You can't keep up with it because I just make

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Speaker 1: Kancity scoring. But it's gonna be a break serve kind

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00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 1: of game if they score all of a sudden, the

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00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: Jaguars get, you know, a pick six kind of game

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Speaker 1: and you're trying to keep up with it. It needs

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00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: to be chaotic and it's going to be hot. Like me,

712
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 1: this is a game where you win the coin toss,

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00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: you take the ball. I think you take the ball.

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Speaker 1: And you're saying try to set the tempo early and say,

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Speaker 1: we're not scared to put the onus on our offense.

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Speaker 1: We trust our defense. We're going after it. But the

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00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 1: day Wars might take the other approach and say, hey,

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Speaker 1: you know what, you think that's your best. We're putting

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Speaker 1: our best on the field. We're gonna stop you coming

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Speaker 1: at you. Who knows where the strategy is, but I'm

721
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Speaker 1: always take the ball guy, But we'll see either way.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun to be hot, chaotic and fun

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Speaker 1: and you should be here. Is that how isn't that

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Speaker 1: how John's described That's right, hot chaotic, That's great John,

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Speaker 1: the first three words I'm sure everyone thinks of. Well

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Speaker 1: over there. Tweets, tweets, top tweets. All right, let's start

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Speaker 1: off top tweets. That's something that definitely got a lot

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Speaker 1: of attention this week, and that is Matt Overton, long

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Speaker 1: snapper for the Jaguars, obviously played with the Colts before

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Speaker 1: he came here. And we all know the news about

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Speaker 1: Andrew Luck and how season ticket members now want to

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Speaker 1: sell their tickets because Andrew Luck is not playing. He said,

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Speaker 1: to any angry cool season ticket holders you are seeking

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Speaker 1: a refund, I'm more than happy to buy your season

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Speaker 1: tickets off you and join it them to the Riley

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Speaker 1: Children's patients and their families. That is a hospital that

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Speaker 1: he represents for my cause, My cleats every year. Is

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Speaker 1: this the only Andrew Luck tweet that you have no

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Speaker 1: well this show, yes, but I've seen plenty right now.

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Speaker 1: I just want to throw I want to throw this

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Speaker 1: out there. Um, it's bad for the NFL. When a

772
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Speaker 1: young star quarterback walks away, leaving hundreds of millions of

773
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Speaker 1: dollars in future earnings on the table because he says

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Speaker 1: the injuries have stolen his joy. Gets worse when the

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Speaker 1: all Pro tight end who won three Super Bowls with

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Speaker 1: the Patriots comes out the next day and says, I've

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Speaker 1: lost my joy too. That's not good. Followed this through

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Speaker 1: the off season. Follow this. People are missing this, But

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Speaker 1: I don't think this is good for the NFL. When

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Speaker 1: players are saying that, no especially sends up alarm bells

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00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: to me. When star players are saying they're in pain,

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Speaker 1: they're suffering, they have no joy. I didn't like the

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00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: fact that the fans booed. It's another business. I don't care.

784
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: I had zero problem with the fans booing it. It

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00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: was a reaction if that had happened in Jackson with

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00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 1: the fans. Would that happened anymore when the You know,

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Speaker 1: I understand Andrew leux absolute right to walk away, but

788
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 1: to think that fans weren't going to be upset about it.

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Speaker 1: When you sign up for this game and make the

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Speaker 1: kind of money he made and you get booed in

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Speaker 1: that process, you know what yeah, I didn't like it.

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00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 1: You like it, I didn't. Whatever, I didn't like it.

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00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: I think it's part of it. And I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Just dre on the public stage, I know, but to

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Speaker 1: me it yeah, I mean, I guess it. But to

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00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 1: me it was too primal. It was not understanding. You know,

797
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 1: if if I don't understand anything you said, that not me.

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00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 1: I mean on that level, they're not part of it.

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Speaker 1: They don't play the game, so they don't understand when

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00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,840
Speaker 1: they come here to that. It's a suspension of reality,

801
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 1: exactly right. I told entertained that I didn't. I mean,

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Speaker 1: if I'm Andrew Luck, I walk off the field and

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00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: I just cut my money, you know, one million, two million,

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Speaker 1: I get a hundred million. I'm like I And to

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00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: clarify what I'm saying, I think most of those fans

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00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 1: who booed the next day probably wouldn't have been. But

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00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 1: it's a gut reaction. It happens um and when you're

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00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,919
Speaker 1: in a public forum like that, you're gonna get booed,

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00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 1: you're gonna get tweeter, you're gonna get hate mail in

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00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 1: the ozone. It's part of it. Fans react to that

811
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 1: sort of thing. After a game, I get vilified in

812
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 1: the ozone the next day. It's much much different because

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00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: they're not emotional anymore. Fans are emotional. They've and it

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00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: also presented a very small number. It's my personal experience

815
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: with it, but for players it's much much worse. But

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00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,399
Speaker 1: if you're on the public stage like that, you're gonna

817
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 1: get foot in. There's no doubt. Three days later he

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00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: wouldn't have been There's no doubt. I still don't like it,

819
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,320
Speaker 1: but there's no doubt. All right, let's go to Leonard

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Speaker 1: fo Net over the summer up in New Orleans. Leonard

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Speaker 1: front has a lot of nieces and nephews. The smallest

822
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 1: one just started playing football, and Leonard Frenett's dad actually

823
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: coaches his nephew's uh pop corner team. So let's take

824
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 1: a look at the first time his nephew puts on

825
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: the pads. Can see the guy in the white little

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Speaker 1: guy very Oh yeah, awesome, And that's Leonard Frenette's dad

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Speaker 1: behind him coaching him up first time he puts on

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Speaker 1: the pads. Yeah, it was just tweeted up by Sports

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Speaker 1: Center before the show aired. There's some genetic material, there's yeah,

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00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 1: I think that genetics are working, something to work with

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Speaker 1: and finally, our guy, Tony Boselli had a good day

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Speaker 1: as a father. Yesterday his son Andrew, who plays for

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Speaker 1: F s U football, received a full scholarship at f

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Speaker 1: s U. Capture the moment that he was surprised with it.

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Speaker 1: A guy that I really thought did a good job today.

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Speaker 1: If if folks and one rip at a time, Andrew Boselli,

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Speaker 1: he feels like you. It's probably more excited than when

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00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: he originally signed with them. But if you wanted to

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Speaker 1: see a celebration, you probably should have seen Biselli jumping

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Speaker 1: up and down. I bet, I bet it's a good

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00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: day to be a dad. Well it's cool because I

842
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: don't know the full story. I know Andrew played, he

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Speaker 1: walked away and came back to earn that full schol

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Speaker 1: our ship for him. He showed up in a tryout

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Speaker 1: in the spring right had to find his way back.

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Speaker 1: He could have picked up the phone and said, Hey,

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Speaker 1: it's Andrew Sally at once have a scholarship. Could we

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Speaker 1: talk about this? He didn't. He showed up at an

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Speaker 1: open tryout, which showed a level of humility, and I'm

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Speaker 1: not sure his father has I'm just kidding Tony. Well

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Speaker 1: maybe not, but but it showed commitment and uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: he's a big kid. He was a very highly recruited kid.

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Speaker 1: He's a kid who could probably play on Sundays at

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Speaker 1: some point. He's got his father's I don't know, he's

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Speaker 1: got his father's feed. His father was sensational, but he's

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Speaker 1: got some of that size that his dad had and

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Speaker 1: some nastiness to him. I wish him the best, you know,

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Speaker 1: he's a center. That's an important spot and we maybe

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Speaker 1: may end up starting at some point for Sue this year.

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Speaker 1: So I'm not coming out of pocket. Oh man, I'm

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Speaker 1: writing that check now, I know. Yeah, and it didn't

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Speaker 1: know fun. Good for Tony, like my son to go

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Speaker 1: get a scholarship somewhere. I hope he's watching your son.

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Speaker 1: He's probably not strapped on the path. He's at ten o'clock.

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Speaker 1: Class isn't for till eleven. For him, he's not even awake,

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Speaker 1: all right. Stay tuned for tomorrow's show. Game Day Jaguars

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Speaker 1: versus Falcons preseason game four will be here tomorrow at

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Speaker 1: nine o'clock on Jaguars Drive Time.