WEBVTT - Civic Cipher 043022 Mass Media Manipulation (Part 1)

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to another episode of Civic Cypher. I'm your host, Rams,

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<v Speaker 1>It's joh I go by the name Q Ward. Monday's, Wednesdays, Fridays, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Then two Saturdays out of the month, but they're not

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<v Speaker 2>consecutive all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>It's visitation. You gotta check.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we'll figure it out.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, I'm gonna ask that you forgive the quality of

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<v Speaker 1>the audio this week. I am zooming in. Q of

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<v Speaker 1>course is in the studio and we'll we'll be back

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<v Speaker 1>to normal next week, but for this week, we had

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<v Speaker 1>a lot to talk about and I didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>miss this week, So for now it's a zoom call

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<v Speaker 1>again forgive the audio. So a lot to stick around

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<v Speaker 1>for this episode, so stay tuned. We're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>talking about uh Yahoo article that was very upsetting to

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<v Speaker 1>both Q and myself where they tried to come at

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<v Speaker 1>the folks who pledge support for the BLM movement and

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<v Speaker 1>they tried to make some sort of false connection to

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<v Speaker 1>crime rates and so forth, which really have nothing to

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<v Speaker 1>do with in our estimation and uh the lack of

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<v Speaker 1>support from these companies since the protests in twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it sounds confusing, but trust me, stick around

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<v Speaker 1>will make it make sense so that you know it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't make sense. Also, we're going to talk about some

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<v Speaker 1>discriminatory loan practices that have been outlined by Ben Crumb, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the famous attorney, the famous civil rights attorney that Wells

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<v Speaker 1>Fargo has been engaging in. And I think that this

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<v Speaker 1>sort of goes along with a lot of what we've

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<v Speaker 1>been discussing about, you know, uh, the the real estate

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<v Speaker 1>assessment value things and then housing practices and and so forth.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're going to talk about lending practices with Wells

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<v Speaker 1>Fargo and how they've been discriminatory, and we're also going

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<v Speaker 1>to you know, hear what they have to say about

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<v Speaker 1>that as well. We're going to talk about for our

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<v Speaker 1>way black history fact the chocolate factory because as it

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<v Speaker 1>turns out, Charlie was originally intended to be black. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot to stick around for. But first, like we

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<v Speaker 1>always do it this term, let's talk about some ebony excellent.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it when we do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Why don't you take this on you?

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<v Speaker 2>This week's I Mean the Excellence is brought to you

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<v Speaker 2>by Hip Hop Weekly Magazine one Time for the one time,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're going to be focusing on Jayden Davis, Cleveland,

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<v Speaker 2>Ohio native and Ohio State University student. This comes from

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<v Speaker 2>the Office of Diversity and Inclusion and the Todd Baal

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<v Speaker 2>National Resource Center the BNRC for short, there's a program

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<v Speaker 2>that prioritizes the needs of young black males on Ohio

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<v Speaker 2>State's campus. They gave him the Dennis J. Alexander Spirit Award.

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<v Speaker 2>The award is given to recipients who are dedicated to

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<v Speaker 2>the black Ohio State student body and community. He was

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<v Speaker 2>specifically recognized for developing multiple initiatives and programs for black students.

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<v Speaker 2>These include a new student organization called the Undergraduate Society

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<v Speaker 2>of Black Leaders. I would have loved to be in

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<v Speaker 2>an organization called that when I was an undergraduate student.

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<v Speaker 2>This looks to equitize leadership and professional development opportunities. Additionally,

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<v Speaker 2>students are taught how to enact change throughout the world

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<v Speaker 2>and their communities from an afrocentric perspective, something that is

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<v Speaker 2>much needed. And you know, massive shouts to Jaden And

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to call him a future leader before, but

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<v Speaker 2>I think he's kind of already in that leadership space.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, it's really special, is that because it's

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<v Speaker 1>a show that we get to produce, and our show

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<v Speaker 1>producer Magnie helps us produce. We get to decide sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>big stories, sometimes small stories that don't make national headlines,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, but they deserve to be highlighted because, as

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<v Speaker 1>we know, sometimes it's it's little stuff that really turns

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<v Speaker 1>into like you know, it's the ripple effects of the

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<v Speaker 1>small things that really end up making an impact. And

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, absolutely shout out to Jaden Davis from Ohio State.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's time for us to talk about some heavy stuff. There's,

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<v Speaker 1>as you know, a lot of opposition to anything black,

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<v Speaker 1>anything afrocentric, anything black based. There's always going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a part of this country that opposes it. Never, at

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<v Speaker 1>any point in this country country's history has something been

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<v Speaker 1>black or about black people to benefit black people, and

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent of the people be on board. Now

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<v Speaker 1>we know that it is in most instances, not all,

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<v Speaker 1>but in most instances racism with very thin vailable patriotism.

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<v Speaker 1>We talk about this on the show quite a bit,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of people, a not insignificant amount of

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<v Speaker 1>this country needs that to be the case because they

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<v Speaker 1>are in effect racist people, but they don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>be seen as being racist. And so if they can

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<v Speaker 1>make any semblance of a logic based argument to attack

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<v Speaker 1>something black based or that benefits black people and brown people,

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<v Speaker 1>then they will do it as long as they have

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<v Speaker 1>that thin veneer of patriotism or that thin and near

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<v Speaker 1>of you know whatever. And one institution reigns supreme above

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<v Speaker 1>all else when it comes to providing that racist framework

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<v Speaker 1>with a thin veneer of patriotism. So people can say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just a conservative or I'm just a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I just really believe in these values. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the use words like I love this country, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like we don't, you know what I mean. I've never

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<v Speaker 1>been to Africa. I love it like in a romantic sense.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm from Common you know, I've been to all

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<v Speaker 1>fifties dates. You know, you've been a vast majority of

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<v Speaker 1>them yourself too.

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<v Speaker 2>And so.

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<v Speaker 1>They try to own these things, and they use them

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<v Speaker 1>to hide behind so that they are not called racist.

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<v Speaker 1>Again that thin loosely their argument is loosely based on logic,

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<v Speaker 1>so that it sounds good only to themselves. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is why you see most black people, most black people voting,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, with their democratic values. And then a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people who feel like the system works great for

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<v Speaker 1>them in its current state. That's why the word conservative.

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<v Speaker 1>They are conservative folks. They want to maintain the status quo.

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<v Speaker 1>But in order for them to not feel like they're

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<v Speaker 1>awful people, they need some way of justifying it. And

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<v Speaker 1>again Fox News certainly provides that. Now I needed to

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<v Speaker 1>say that because I'm going to read an article now

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<v Speaker 1>from Yahoo that cites Fox News. Okay, and the name

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<v Speaker 1>of the titleist articles companies that loudly supported BLM falls

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<v Speaker 1>silent when confronted with skyrocketing black murders, as though there's

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of connection. And the article really really tries

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<v Speaker 1>to stretch to make a connection between BLM and black

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<v Speaker 1>people murdering each other, which is very, very hurtful, wrong

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<v Speaker 1>on one hundred different levels. But there are people in

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<v Speaker 1>the world who need this stuff so that they don't

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<v Speaker 1>feel bad. Oh see, like a confirmation bias. I knew

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<v Speaker 1>BLM was wrong. How the world anyway? I'll read corporate

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<v Speaker 1>voices boomed across the nation and support a Black Line,

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<v Speaker 1>Lives Matter, and various social justice initiatives. Following the death

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<v Speaker 1>of George Lloyd in twenty twenty, nearly two years later,

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<v Speaker 1>what was left in the wake of twenty twenty was

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<v Speaker 1>a drastic spike in black murders, with experts blaming, blaming,

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<v Speaker 1>pinning blame on the BLM and defund the police movements. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry I missed that up. The drastic spike in

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<v Speaker 1>black murders. Okay, let's define drastic. We'll identify that a

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<v Speaker 1>little later. This is not that drastic experts. Who are

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<v Speaker 1>the experts? Who are these people?

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<v Speaker 2>I like the word skyrocketing.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what did it for me. It's like inflammatory language

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<v Speaker 1>that excites this conservative base to say, yeah, see BLM

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<v Speaker 1>is bad. Just their very existence causes black people to

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<v Speaker 1>murder each other. That's effectually what this article is trying

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<v Speaker 1>to say. I'll make the point a little later, but

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<v Speaker 1>that is what it is. Again. The headline is companies

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<v Speaker 1>that loudly supporting BLM fall silently confronted with skyrocketing and blackmurners.

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<v Speaker 1>You can need that article in its entirety and see

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<v Speaker 1>the point I'm making. It's so unfair. We're just trying

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<v Speaker 1>to live. We're trying to have an easier path to happiness.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't need what you have. We just need to

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<v Speaker 1>be free to be that's it, right. This is largely

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<v Speaker 1>what our campaigns have been about since arriving on the

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<v Speaker 1>shores in this country in the sixteen hundred. If I'm wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>somebody tell me that. But that's the story that I

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<v Speaker 1>know and that I live. But yes, they say that

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<v Speaker 1>they're pinning the blame on BLM. Experts quote unquote ore

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<v Speaker 1>pinning the blame on BLM and defund the police movements. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Companies posted messages reiterating Black Lives Matter and pledged millions

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<v Speaker 1>of dollars to various social justice organizations that push to

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<v Speaker 1>reimagine police singly allocate on from police departments. This is true.

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<v Speaker 1>FBI data reported by Fox News Digital last week shows

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<v Speaker 1>murders spite disproportionately among Black Americans in twenty twenty, right

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<v Speaker 1>by thirty two compared to the year priory. Now, if

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<v Speaker 1>this is data right, and it's from the FBI and

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<v Speaker 1>they don't have a dog in this, if I will

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<v Speaker 1>assume that right, then just reading that sentence alone makes

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<v Speaker 1>it seem like, oh my gosh, black people are just

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<v Speaker 1>killing each other. Right, not entirely true? In the article

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<v Speaker 1>is I'm from the same article I didn't pull from

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of sources is one place. But I'm trying

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<v Speaker 1>to illustrate what we're up against and how the story

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<v Speaker 1>gets rewritten on that side to where everything that we're

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<v Speaker 1>doing to try to convince folks, hey, we're not bad

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<v Speaker 1>guys here, don't We're not going to harm anyone. We're

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<v Speaker 1>not looking for rigein revenge. Rather, we're looking for equity.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it, right, Things like this make it difficult for

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<v Speaker 1>us on our plan. Right, I'll continue. Murders across the

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<v Speaker 1>board spiked by nearly thirty percent that year, marking the

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<v Speaker 1>largest single year increase in killing since the AG Agency

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<v Speaker 1>began tracking the crimes. Okay, so it says spike disproportionately

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<v Speaker 1>among Black Americans in twenty twenty. I'm rereading the part

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<v Speaker 1>I just read disproportionately among Black Americans with me, and

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<v Speaker 1>it says by thirty two percent, And it goes on

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<v Speaker 1>to say across the board by thirty percent that year.

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<v Speaker 1>So that means that black people's disproportionate spike was two

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<v Speaker 1>percent higher than the national average.

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<v Speaker 2>Was almost exactly the same as how I would say

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<v Speaker 2>it if I was going to rewrite the counter article.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, you almost exactly the same, thank you, Q.

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<v Speaker 1>But for people that read that the way that it's written,

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<v Speaker 1>if you don't take the time to really digest it,

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<v Speaker 1>or if you're again suffering from that cognitive bias, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're looking for what you need to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>that you feel less racist about feeling angry because an

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<v Speaker 1>organization called Black Lives Matter exists and you feel that

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<v Speaker 1>anything black is a threat on your whatever your races,

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<v Speaker 1>because Stinch is white folks. That so that way, some

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<v Speaker 1>black people feel like Black Lives Matter is a terrorist

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<v Speaker 1>organization on Really, I am seeing you black Lives Matter

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<v Speaker 1>based in mass murders, mass shooters, bombings and all that

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<v Speaker 1>sort of stuff. But that's we think it. I guess

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<v Speaker 1>I'll continue. Here's the hard numbers. At least and eighty

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<v Speaker 1>four black Americans were murdered in twenty nineteen, according to

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<v Speaker 1>the data. Fox News Digital reported last week that numbers

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<v Speaker 1>shot up to at least forty one murders in twenty twenty. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>it's an increase. We know what happened in twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to even say it because the article

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<v Speaker 1>will try its best to separate these numbers from what

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<v Speaker 1>was very obviously people at home, have nothing to do,

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<v Speaker 1>nowhere to go, and in impoverished and sperate circumstances, you

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<v Speaker 1>know where people get out there and look, I got

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<v Speaker 1>babies on the feed them by any means necessary. If

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<v Speaker 1>you are living, breathing human being and you have a child,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm talking about. And sometimes those circumstances

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<v Speaker 1>make you, even in your imaginary scenarios, will make you

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<v Speaker 1>come out of character. Right, I'm not making excuses, because

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<v Speaker 1>that is bad.

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<v Speaker 2>Wrong is wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>But we can point to things outside of BLM and

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<v Speaker 1>tell that story. This article doesn't even attempt to do that,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'll continue, Okay. In twenty twenty, meaning that there

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<v Speaker 1>was an increase of twenty four hundred and fifty seven

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<v Speaker 1>Black Americans murdered over the previous year. For white Americans.

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<v Speaker 1>At the IDEA shows, there were seven thousand and forty

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<v Speaker 1>three white people murdered in twenty twenty. So seven thousand,

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<v Speaker 1>forty three white people murdered in twenty twenty and nine

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and forty one murders for black people in twenty twenty. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>so they're more murders in black communities. These are what

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<v Speaker 1>they would in a different article. Pain is Black on

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<v Speaker 1>black crime. They however, would not refer to these seven

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<v Speaker 1>seven three white people murdered as white on white crime,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's the way that this media narrative exists, exists

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<v Speaker 1>to frame all things black in the worst possible light,

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<v Speaker 1>especially especially Fox News.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the idea in and of itself black on black,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever you put after a crime, murder, whatever. As we've

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<v Speaker 2>discussed before, it's far more based on proximity to each

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<v Speaker 2>other than color of skin. Right, the people who live

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<v Speaker 2>in the community commit the crime in the community. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not because they're black or white, or hispanic or otherwise.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's it's far more about the people that you

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<v Speaker 2>commit crime against, especially when you're poor and impoverished looking

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<v Speaker 2>like you, not you targeting them specifically. But again, it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't paint as well when you're Fox News if you

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<v Speaker 2>tell the story that way and include that context and

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<v Speaker 2>that nuance, and you know, a more full, flushed out narrative.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what else I don't like about Fox meanings

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<v Speaker 1>They always talk about their ratings because they get good ratings,

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<v Speaker 1>they get high ratings, But that's because they're the most

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<v Speaker 1>flagrant conservative media outlet. And when you look at the

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<v Speaker 1>more liberal side of things, CNN ANDSNBC. You know, that

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<v Speaker 1>list goes on why that can't even big up the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the names, but the list goes on the

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<v Speaker 1>liberal side of things. The ratings are split between all

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<v Speaker 1>these companies. But what happens is Fox News saying we're

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<v Speaker 1>number one or the most watched whatever. It makes people

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<v Speaker 1>feel like, oh, well, they're clearly telling the truth. So

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<v Speaker 1>people that kind of live in the gray area in

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<v Speaker 1>this country, they're like, oh, I don't hate black people.

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<v Speaker 1>Hope they figured it out. I'm not about to get

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<v Speaker 1>out there and carry a sign, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, if somebody, if I'm want to hire somebody,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care for black worker. There's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>those people, they'll look at Fox News and get indoctrinated,

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<v Speaker 1>if you will, watching Fox News, get scared away from

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<v Speaker 1>what they're there their their natural state would be, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and they get sucked in because they think that because

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<v Speaker 1>this is a number one news organiz they shouldn't get

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<v Speaker 1>high ratings, that they're obviously telling the true and they

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<v Speaker 1>have this like weird, perfect formula for poisoning the minds

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<v Speaker 1>of this country and and turning those minds against what

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<v Speaker 1>on its surface, and it's is on its surface, is

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<v Speaker 1>meant to be a very positive campaign that helps us,

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<v Speaker 1>all right.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the real issue with what you just said

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<v Speaker 2>with Fox News and other media outlets that have that

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<v Speaker 2>point of view is that far more people lean liberal,

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<v Speaker 2>far more. However, those in power, those involved in the

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<v Speaker 2>foundation of this great nation, lean very heavily the other direction,

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<v Speaker 2>and in efforts to conserve their position, their power, their

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<v Speaker 2>political and financial leverage over us, they paint these pictures

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<v Speaker 2>this way intentionally, as you said before, they subscribe heavily

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<v Speaker 2>to racist ideology. But don't you dare call them racist,

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<v Speaker 2>because that word is the problem, not the practices in

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<v Speaker 2>the way that they think, but being labeled as such,

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<v Speaker 2>as you know, please don't do that. I never I

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<v Speaker 2>know Ramsy's he's my friend. I think he's fantastic. You

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<v Speaker 2>can't call me racist. I know a black guy that

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<v Speaker 2>one in particular, I love his afro. He let me

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<v Speaker 2>touch it. Like really really silly things are said. But

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<v Speaker 2>you talk about them correlating a spike in black murders

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<v Speaker 2>to BLM and more specifically because they kind of slid

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<v Speaker 2>this one in there to defund the police movement. However, right,

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<v Speaker 2>use these same statistics, are these same sources for statistics,

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<v Speaker 2>and it will show you that agencies, police agencies in

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<v Speaker 2>our country, cities, states, federal, or otherwise did not get

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<v Speaker 2>less money in that time. And the cities and states

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<v Speaker 2>and agencies that got the most money there are statistics

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<v Speaker 2>that show have very very high crime rates. Because what

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<v Speaker 2>else are these military forces going to do now that

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<v Speaker 2>they're on the streets with new tanks, new cars, new guns,

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<v Speaker 2>and new weapons, but find more people to arrest and harass.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, as you said before, you know, if

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<v Speaker 2>a cop follows you around long enough, you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>break one of the laws, they can just decide to enforce.

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<v Speaker 1>Ten thousand laws. If you can name to be ten

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<v Speaker 1>thousand laws, then you know exactly how to deal with

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<v Speaker 1>the police. If you cannot name ten thousand laws, the

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<v Speaker 1>police have an advantage. They will figure out a way

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<v Speaker 1>to arrest you if they are so.

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<v Speaker 2>They tell that story as if we defunded the police

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<v Speaker 2>and then all these people got murdered. No, that didn't happen, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Another false correlation, because it's very easy to say these

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<v Speaker 2>things and inflame an audience that wants to hear and

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<v Speaker 2>believe those things anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>So let me let me finish pain please her. Your

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<v Speaker 1>point is is is taken. So again, FBI data shows

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<v Speaker 1>there were seven thousand and forty three whites people murdered

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<v Speaker 1>in twenty twenty, meaning twy eighth and ninety eight more

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<v Speaker 1>Black people were killed compared to whites. An average of

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<v Speaker 1>six nine and twenty seven black American murdered each year

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<v Speaker 1>between twenty ten and twenty nineteen. Minue Black murders shot

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<v Speaker 1>up by forty three percent in twenty twenty compared to

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<v Speaker 1>the previous ten year average. And they don't include the

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<v Speaker 1>statistics for white murders right.

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<v Speaker 2>Now. And even worse, they don't include who murdered these

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<v Speaker 2>black people right because heightened racial tension, you know, an inflammatory.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a Donald Trump presidency in there. Yeah, a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of stuff going on, but they this article, the

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing is meant to frame BLN as the bad

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<v Speaker 1>guy and that's kind.

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<v Speaker 2>Of and defund the police because they mentioned it multiple

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<v Speaker 2>times intentionally.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So watch this. Two experts such as the

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<v Speaker 1>Manhattan Institutes, Heather McDonald BLM and the defund the police movements.

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<v Speaker 1>That s what the nation directly contributed to the spike.

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<v Speaker 1>The spike quote began months after lockdown, beginning only after

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<v Speaker 1>riots in quote, McDonald told Fox News Digital noting the

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<v Speaker 1>quote spike was not at all related to COVID end quote.

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<v Speaker 1>Now this Heather McDonald person, Okay, I love this. If

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<v Speaker 1>you are listening to the show this far into the show,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that twenty twenty will be remembered for the protests,

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<v Speaker 1>not the riots.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that in the same way that we remember

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<v Speaker 1>doctor Martin Luther King for his protests, not the riots

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<v Speaker 1>that took place. Because there were people that rioted. Get

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<v Speaker 1>that many people on the streets that angry and let

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<v Speaker 1>the police get out there and start agitating people is

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<v Speaker 1>going to turn into whatever it turns into. But history

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't remember it that way. History remembers the peaceful protests

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<v Speaker 1>do people in marching. We shall overcome. That's how twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty will be remembered. Right these folks here having McDonald's

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<v Speaker 1>specifically called them riots of twenty twenty. Okay, the spike

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<v Speaker 1>began months after Lockdown's beginning, only after the riots. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So she said, I had nothing to do with code.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to make this point so somebody says, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you, you got to stay at home the last side, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>stay at home, right, and you know you got some

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<v Speaker 1>resources probably in your house at money to bank. It'll

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<v Speaker 1>be fine for about how long? A couple months at most.

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<v Speaker 1>Somewhere it starts getting a little thin, start getting one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred that I was about to stand there and turn

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<v Speaker 1>some skeletons. Very obvious connection here, right, And I know

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<v Speaker 1>there's a number of things, but the most obvious one

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<v Speaker 1>is that, yeah, it doesn't happen the day that the

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<v Speaker 1>lockdowns said. It happens after months after correct, And so

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<v Speaker 1>it's just silly. But you know, if it's written from

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<v Speaker 1>a trustworthy quote unquote source and there's some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>the Manhattan's in.

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<v Speaker 2>There quoting experts. By the way, we have no idea

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<v Speaker 2>what HEATHERN McDonald does.

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<v Speaker 1>And even if she was the most qualified expert in

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<v Speaker 1>the world saying right here, it doesn't tell enough of

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<v Speaker 1>the story to convinced me that she's not being biased

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<v Speaker 1>at least in this article.

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<v Speaker 2>Highly intelligent people don't frame arguments this way. If she

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<v Speaker 2>was the foremost expert in this field, she wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 2>the quotest source for this story.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, so I'll continue. Box New's Digital reached out

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<v Speaker 1>to a handful of corporations and companies that pledged support

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<v Speaker 1>for Black Lives Matter in various organizations supporting tenants of

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<v Speaker 1>the defund movement, such as the Equal Justice Justice Initiative.

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<v Speaker 1>Shout out to Brian Stevenson and the National Urban League,

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<v Speaker 1>who I interviewed on my other show, The Black Information

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<v Speaker 1>Network Daily Podcast. Be sure to check it out. In

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<v Speaker 1>the days and months following the death deployed, The Equal

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<v Speaker 1>Justice Initiative advocates for the reallocation of quote funds from

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<v Speaker 1>traditional policing to services that promote public safety and quote,

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<v Speaker 1>while the National Urban League outlines on its website that

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<v Speaker 1>it has quote twenty one pillars on comprehensive and realistic

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<v Speaker 1>reform and accountability, including collaborate with communities to re envision

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<v Speaker 1>public safety and quote change the divisive policing policies. Representators

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<v Speaker 1>from Nike, Apple, Face for Amazon, Vin and Jerry's norson

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<v Speaker 1>Target and also did not return Fox News Digital's requests

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<v Speaker 1>for comments and for obvious reasons, because Fox News is

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get a little bit of incendiary remarks so

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<v Speaker 1>that they can kind of continue to read that story.

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<v Speaker 1>I do want to say that, at least for me,

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<v Speaker 1>I won't speak for Q, I won't speak for anybody else.

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<v Speaker 1>I do believe in the defunding of police departments. I

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<v Speaker 1>do believe in reallocating and reinvesting in communities to prevent

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<v Speaker 1>crime crimes from happening. I do recognize that a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of crimes are based off of economic conditions. And if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm able to say it, I have a microphone and

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<v Speaker 1>an audience, I will say that that idea has merit,

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<v Speaker 1>and before we walk away from what we should, at

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<v Speaker 1>least try any final thoughts. Q.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I think we've said enough for this topic for today.

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<v Speaker 1>Will revisit it. I'm sure? Okay, Well, absolutely