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Speaker 1: like I can find something here that's useful.

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Speaker 2: For me, something in the midst of everything.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So we talked about twenty twenty one being excited

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Speaker 3: for racing. Right now, if you had an opportunity to

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Speaker 3: look back at des in March, being the wise days

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Speaker 3: piece of advice, what do you tell her leading into

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Speaker 3: this pandemic.

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Speaker 1: Don't go out too hard, We don't know where the

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Speaker 1: finish line is, and you don't want to be exhausted

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Speaker 1: from doing puzzles right away. Space them out.

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Speaker 3: Space those puzzles out, space them out. Does what anything

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Speaker 3: else you want to offer the hurdler is going into

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Speaker 3: a new year?

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Speaker 2: Any optimism, anything you got?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think it's I said, it's a

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Speaker 1: fresh page and new opportunity. And that doesn't have to

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Speaker 1: be the turn of the calendar year. It can be

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Speaker 1: every single day. You know, you get to show up

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Speaker 1: and see what the day's got for you and try

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Speaker 1: to embrace the good and learn from the bad.

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Speaker 3: Does Thanks so much for your time and forgetting together

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Speaker 3: with me. How do the hurdlers, if they don't already,

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Speaker 3: which I'm sure most of them do, keep up with you,

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Speaker 3: follow along with you, give me all the details.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm on the Twitter and the Instagram at dez

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Speaker 1: Underscore Linden and you probably need to have some coffee

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Speaker 3: I'm over at Emilia's Body and at Hurdle Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Another Hurdle Conquered. Gotch you guys, Next time