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Speaker 1: Welcome in What's Driving the Great Episode three oh five,

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Speaker 1: Fresh off vacation back from New Zealand, I have an

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Speaker 1: amazing ability to not be jet lagged at all while

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Speaker 1: on vacation, hit the ground running half a world away

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Speaker 1: in New Zealand, landed at five am Sunday, New Zealand time.

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Speaker 1: It immediately started traveling, traversing, exploring, and then since I've

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Speaker 1: been back to the States, I've slept for three hours

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Speaker 1: about every twelve hours and have no idea what day

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Speaker 1: it is or what's going on. So I'm actually grateful

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Speaker 1: of that ability that I don't waste my vacation sleeping

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Speaker 1: and jet lag. But it is made today. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what day it is, but we're back. I have

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Speaker 1: been waiting for the better part of a week to

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Speaker 1: discuss this story. We didn't even do it on the

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Speaker 1: TV show yesterday, in part because Brew wasn't back yet,

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Speaker 1: but also because I wanted to. I'm going to go

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Speaker 1: long on this face of the league's stuff. So first,

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Speaker 1: Demonse welcome in. Demanse also has some things he wants

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Speaker 1: to get off his chest about. I think Jason Tatum

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Speaker 1: and Shadora Sanders are both of these correct.

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Speaker 2: Yes, both of those are correct, and then things, but

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Speaker 2: we're gonna hit on those naturally.

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Speaker 1: Or right, We're gonna throughout the flow of the show.

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Speaker 1: I will admit this opening will I'm hoping to keep

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Speaker 1: this rant under twenty because I, in theory, would like

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Speaker 1: to be able to post the entire thing, not just

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Speaker 1: to YouTube, but to other social media because I think

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Speaker 1: it's I'm gonna sound self aggrandizing. I think it's important

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Speaker 1: and it's gonna be a little bit of history and

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a course correction from I think

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Speaker 1: some people who are playing fast and loose with what

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Speaker 1: actually has happened in the past and how we actually

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Speaker 1: in the past have treated other NBA superstars, which has

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Speaker 1: led to the current angst of this crop of NBA superstars.

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Speaker 1: Before we get to any of that, what missed the

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Speaker 1: cut The Bengals are franchise tagging T Higgins. I do

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Speaker 1: not understand what the Bengals are doing. More on that

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Speaker 1: on Thursday NFL Combine reactions. I didn't watch a second

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Speaker 1: of it all. Catch up on that this week and

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Speaker 1: John Cena turns heel fellas. I should have made this.

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Speaker 1: I should have made this note to the producers off

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Speaker 1: the air, but we can do it on the air.

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Speaker 1: I suppose the WWE doesn't even qualify quite for the

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Speaker 1: miss the Cut category. Nothing against our friends at Pro Wrestling,

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Speaker 1: but I'm not I don't know enough about any of

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Speaker 1: it in order to even have I don't know if

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Speaker 1: they I feel naked when it comes to analyzing that.

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Speaker 1: So that'll be your first and last wrestling update on

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Speaker 1: the What's Right Pod. But where we have to start

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Speaker 1: today is with what Lebron James said, what was said

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Speaker 1: about what he said, and how we got here. So

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Speaker 1: first the level set of what happened. Anthony Edwards was

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Speaker 1: asked about being face of the league and he was like,

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Speaker 1: I don't really have an interest in it. I just

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Speaker 1: want a ball. Lebron was then asked about that as

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Speaker 1: the face of the league, and Lebron said, yeah, I

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Speaker 1: don't blame him. Why would you want to be when

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Speaker 1: all the people who talk about our league And it

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Speaker 1: seemed like he was about to say former players, but

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Speaker 1: the and media, but instead it was just a catch all,

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Speaker 1: just shit on the players. And then as Bomani Jones

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Speaker 1: guys who Lebron was talking about doth protested too much.

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Speaker 1: So the first one was stephen A, who did a

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Speaker 1: five minute rant in response to Lebron that and I'm

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Speaker 1: not I am not exaggerating when i say this. In

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Speaker 1: the first ninety seconds of stephen A responding to Lebron

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Speaker 1: saying that the biggest voices in the media just go

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Speaker 1: In the first ninety seconds of a response to that,

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Speaker 1: stephen A blamed Lebron James for the following the downfall

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Speaker 1: and the Chris Paul Laker trade being mixed. He put

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Speaker 1: it all Lebron's feet. He's like ruin the dunk contests

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Speaker 1: what led to the owners locking the players out and

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Speaker 1: I have a really good relationship with steven A. I

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Speaker 1: I don't want people to think that this is there's

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Speaker 1: I just think he's out of his mind on some

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Speaker 1: producers of that podcast because they put us on their

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Speaker 1: you know, friendly relationships. But and Demon's ay, this will

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Speaker 1: blow your mind again in addressing Lebron James saying that

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Speaker 1: if you're the face of the league, you get extra criticism,

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Speaker 1: get shit on. When Steven A brought that up on

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Speaker 1: the soundless what we call b roll highlights. Hand to god,

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Speaker 1: it was Bronni's bad minutes against the Sixers. That's true.

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Speaker 1: Go look, go watch so like again, I don't think

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Speaker 1: that's stephen A's call, but it it doesn't exactly just

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Speaker 1: spell the narrative that, well, yeah, you there might be

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Speaker 1: a little a little unfairness here, And so that was

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Speaker 1: his part of it. Bill Simmons, who is as loud

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Speaker 1: as there is, who is an unabashed, obvious, diehard Celtic

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Speaker 1: fan who has never really been what you'd call a

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Speaker 1: Lebron guy, and Lebron's never been a Simmons guy. Simmons

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Speaker 1: sent out the following tweets, Celts Cavs is a wonderful

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Speaker 1: NBA game between two excellent teams that's included some terrific

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Speaker 1: individual performances. This next game will be splendid too. We're

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Speaker 1: so lucky to be able to watch great players like

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Speaker 1: Luka Ancic, Lebron, James and James Harden battling it out tonight,

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Speaker 1: just basically making fun. It's being like, this is ridiculous. Oh,

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Speaker 1: everyone's got to be so positive. And then Bill went

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Speaker 1: failures in the moment, which is not at all what

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Speaker 1: Lebron's talking about. Lebron was talking about the general conversation

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Speaker 1: surrounding the league being constantly negative. And you know who

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Speaker 1: totally agrees with Lebron that that's a problem, Bill Simmons.

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Speaker 1: You know how I know that because on December thirty first,

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Speaker 1: Bill Simmons did an NBA pod with the great Kirk

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Speaker 1: Kurt Goldsberry that he says at the beginning he's doing

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Speaker 1: because the conversation surrounding the league has gotten too negative.

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Speaker 1: So for some of these guys, even when Lebron says

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Speaker 1: you know, did what he always does, which is whether

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Speaker 1: it is while he's on the broadcast, when Lebron happens

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Speaker 1: to past Magic Johnson for career assists, or when he's

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Speaker 1: addressing Lebron's comments, can't help himself but make it clear,

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Speaker 1: no matter how great these guys are. They're not quite

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Speaker 1: that works out, and we're yet to see what the

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Speaker 1: chuckster's going to say, but we'll find out here very soon,

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Speaker 1: and my guess is it'll be more of the same.

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Speaker 1: So now that I've set the table on what happened,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, and then Lebron responded with tweets. It would

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Speaker 1: appear this first tweet as a response to stephen A,

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Speaker 1: where I wrote, exactly made my point. But anyways, happy

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Speaker 1: this convo has started. It ain't about face of the game,

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Speaker 1: and it ain't about one person or one show. It's

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Speaker 1: about the culture of basketball. The most beautiful game in

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Speaker 1: the world. Our game has never been better. Incredible young

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Speaker 1: stars from all over the world and some older ones too,

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Speaker 1: laughing emojis. Steph Curry should be all we're talking about today.

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Speaker 1: This After you score fifty six, let's discuss how great,

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Speaker 1: okay seeing the cav have been this season, won two

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Speaker 1: Of course, if players don't perform, we need to discuss

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Speaker 1: that's not to bring finality to that player's game, but

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Speaker 1: All right? He then went on with my pal Scott

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Speaker 1: make about Prime Klay Thompson. The better example right now

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Speaker 1: who are in the Jalen Brown Devin Booker tier of

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Speaker 1: players like ten to twenty, if you were ranking them,

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Speaker 1: But it is not a daily legacy referendum. When they

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Speaker 1: the Lebron of it all? Is this? How many times

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Speaker 1: I'm part of it. Well, after a guy misses a

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Speaker 1: many times have you heard this, Well, if we're Lebron,

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Speaker 1: go on TV and say your windows three to four years? Well,

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00:33:56,320 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: this year is done, now done, and next year's in jeopardy?

428
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: Like are you and also are you going to re

429
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Speaker 1: sign Kyrie Irving? Do you still have to? If you don't,

430
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,200
Speaker 1: what are you doing? There was a lot of, you know,

431
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 1: kind of backburner rumors, demons that this could be a

432
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: Kevin Durant destination next year, that Katie get back with Kyrie.

433
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:34,879
Speaker 1: You have Anthony Davis. From basketball standpoint, it would fit great. Okay, Well,

434
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 1: now that's massively in question, Like I don't know, you

435
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: tear your acl in March. If you're Kyrie, do you

436
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: just miss all of next year? And shout out to

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00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: Kyrie for shooting those free throws? You know, he obviously

438
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:57,320
Speaker 1: is as big of a Kobe fan as any active player.

439
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,879
Speaker 1: Kobe famous famously shot his free throws after he tore

440
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:09,720
Speaker 1: his achilles. You really really hope that Kyrie's career doesn't

441
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 1: follow that same trajectory as far as Kobe was just

442
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:20,359
Speaker 1: never the same guy after that torn achilles. But I

443
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: also think Kobe Kobe was thirty four when he tore

444
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:31,359
Speaker 1: his achilles. Kyrie is thirty two about to be thirty three,

445
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 1: was Kobe? I'm looking up when so Kobe tore his

446
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 1: achilles in April of thirteen. Kobe was born in August

447
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 1: of Yeah, so he was thirty four August seventy eight.

448
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 1: So I I just will the MAVs make There's so

449
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: many tentacles to this and I'm reacting in real time. Well,

450
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 1: the MAVs make the play in they're three and a

451
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 1: half clear of Phoenix. Phoenix would be a at this

452
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:17,760
Speaker 1: point a more interesting team because of the kdum Booker factor,

453
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 1: even though that team seems to just be ready for

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00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:24,279
Speaker 1: the season to end. But now that whoever gets that

455
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: ten seed is dead on arrival, the MAVs have no

456
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 1: who on the MAVs can create a shot, honest to God,

457
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: Like last night after Kyrie went down, it's Dante exem

458
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:43,240
Speaker 1: you you know who you also fe I mean Kai Jones.

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00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:47,879
Speaker 1: Shout out to Kai Jones, by the way, who had

460
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: some real personal demons and issues I shouldn't. Demons is

461
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: too strong. I don't know that he had he had

462
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: a it seemed like he might have had a drug problem,

463
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 1: you know, and seems to have gotten himself clean and

464
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 1: is you know, resuming his NBA career. So you root

465
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: for young people like that, Like that was going down

466
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: the wrong track. He ended up playing big minutes yesterday,

467
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: or if they signed him, he goes nine to ten

468
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 1: from the field. But I mean Klay Thompson signs there

469
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,919
Speaker 1: thinking I can catch and shoot. Well, who's who you're

470
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 1: catching it from? Now? This isn't I think you know what,

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00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 1: I think I did a bad job in my initial

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Speaker 1: reaction to this.

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00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 2: This is a just like the Luca eight trade.

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Speaker 1: No, the Kyrie injury. I'm just in the last ten

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00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: minutes because this is just an unmitigated disaster of historic proportions.

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00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 1: And you who can say the injury is just bad luck,

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00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 1: But that's only if you think that if Kyrie's workload

478
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: was different, if his responsibility was different, if his ability

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00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,439
Speaker 1: to rest games, if need be was different, he still

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00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: would have torn his ACL. I don't think that. And

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00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: the MAVs, who are the defending Western Conference champions, decided

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00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: without the player forcing them or even asking them to

483
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 1: decided I am going to blow this entire thing up

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00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 1: and take a risk that's unprecedented in NBA history. And

485
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 1: within a month of the trade, the piece you traded

486
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: for who was injured when you made the trade got

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00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:08,720
Speaker 1: hurt again. And the guard in this league that maybe

488
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:14,840
Speaker 1: at this point honestly has more responsibility to his team

489
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 1: than any other guard in the league because of how

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00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 1: the rosters constructed post Luca, you use him in a

491
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:32,960
Speaker 1: potentially reckless manner and his historically shaky knees get one

492
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 1: of them gives out on it, and now you're just cooked.

493
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 1: And you're a team that does not have your own

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00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 1: draft pick for twenty seven through thirty. So that's the

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00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: other like they MAV's future draft picks. I talked about

496
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 1: this the other day, so I kind of know it already.

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00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 1: But here's what it is. Outgoing draft picks. In twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty seven, it goes to Charlotte in twenty twenty eight,

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00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: okase can swap with them. In twenty twenty nine, it

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00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: goes to Houston or Phoenix. In twenty thirty. I think

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00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 1: the Spurs can swap with them, but twenty seven, twenty eight,

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00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 1: twenty nine, and thirty you do not have your own pick.

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00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: And two of those years, yeah you will have someone's pick.

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00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 1: But okay, the in twenty seven it just goes to Charlotte.

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00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,319
Speaker 1: In twenty eight, okay, see can swap with you. In

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00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: twenty nine, Houston can swap with you, and thirty the

507
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: Spurs can swap with you. So if you bought them out,

508
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: it doesn't do you any good. I I don't know.

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00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 1: The only reason demons. I think Nico Harrison survives this

510
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 1: is because Patrick Dumont, the owner, came out and did

511
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: his own press conference where he was like, two thumbs

512
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 1: up to the trade. You gotta be a grinder like

513
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:31,280
Speaker 1: Shaquille O'Neill and Larry Bird were never drank, never party

514
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 1: and just all ball and and I'm yeah, of course,

515
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: and I am just sick for Kyrie. Man. This sucks

516
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 1: and it's it's a lot of money. And I know

517
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: nobody cares about the money part of this with pro athletes,

518
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 1: but Kyrie had cost himself a lot of money the

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00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: previous few years and left money on the table, and

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00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 1: then because of his own excellent play and the desperation

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00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 1: of the MAVs post, Luca was in a spot where

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00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 1: he was going to get that max deal, and now

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00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: I don't know what it means for him. This is devastating.

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00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 1: Oh god, so oh hold on, So that's interesting. So

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00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 1: that's probably what he'll do. Well, I don't know. Yeah,

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00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: I mean, he has a player option, but I don't

527
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: know that. I so he could pick up the player

528
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,879
Speaker 1: option for forty four million, but I think it's more

529
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: likely he opts out and still gets a new deal.

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00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 1: I just don't think it'll be a four year max

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00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,240
Speaker 1: like so it's if it were a career ending injury,

532
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 1: which it's not, then you just opt into your player option.

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00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: I don't think that's what's gonna happen. But I'm just

534
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 1: devastated for Kyrie. I'm not listening, and I'm devastating for

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Speaker 1: MAVs fans. Thirty days and your entire basketball world is

536
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: just you went from having one of the brightest futures

537
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: of any team in the league to its as dark

538
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 1: as it gets. And all of a sudden, Anthony Davis

539
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: is back on the Pelicans.

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00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 2: And they're raising the prices in the stadium for Fatigua.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's another thing. I saw that story. It's just

542
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 1: a tone deaf timing of the announcement. I don't understand

543
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 1: that piece of it at all, but just joining us

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00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving torn acl that was the fear last night.

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00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:50,919
Speaker 1: I am amazed by the way quick sidebar. I am

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00:43:51,120 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: constantly amazed at how accurate those sports me Edison folks

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00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:07,000
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00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: saying what injury the guy suffered. I think those guys

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00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 1: that I follow on Twitter bat like eight hundred. I

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00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: think four out of five they nail just by watching

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Speaker 1: one video. And it's listen, I know nothing about science

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00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: or medicine, but it's always impressive to me. All right,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so he's one point away from being the first

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Speaker 2: What's going on here?

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Speaker 1: Okay? So, I don't think it's fair to say he's

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Speaker 1: thirty nine thousand, Michael at thirty eight thousand, and Dirk

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Speaker 1: at thirty five thousand. Okay, those are your top six,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Durant seventh and thirty five thousand as well. The

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Speaker 1: reason I say continued excellence is Kareem when he scored

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Speaker 1: his forty four thousandth point was in the midst of

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Speaker 1: the worst season of his career, his final season when

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Speaker 1: he averaged ten points per game. Karl Malone when he

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Speaker 1: scored his forty one thousandth point, which was the end

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Speaker 1: was an injury riddled year with the Lakers, the worst

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Speaker 1: season of his career, when he averaged thirteen points per game.

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Speaker 1: Kobe when he scored the final the thirty nine thousandth

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Speaker 1: point of his career, again eleven thousand less than Lebron's

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Speaker 1: at he was in the midst of the final year

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Speaker 1: of his career when he shot thirty six percent from

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Speaker 1: the field and averaged eighteen points per game. Michael when

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Speaker 1: he scored his what was his number, sorry he get

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Speaker 1: thirty eight thousandth point, He was in his second year

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Speaker 1: with the Wizards, averaging twenty points per game, the worst

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Speaker 1: year of his career. And Dirk when he scored his

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Speaker 1: thirty five thousandth point was in his final year with Dallas,

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Speaker 1: shooting thirty six percent when he averaged seven points per game.

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Speaker 1: So it's not just that Lebron has been available and

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Speaker 1: played this much, it's that he is going to cross

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Speaker 1: fifty thousand in a year when he's averaging twenty five,

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Speaker 1: eight and nine, when he is one of three players

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Speaker 1: in the league in the top twenty five in points, rebounds,

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Speaker 1: and assists per game, when he is going to either

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Speaker 1: be first or second team All NBA, and where he

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Speaker 1: is going to finish fourth, fifth or sixth in the

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Speaker 1: MVP race. Probably to be playing at this level this

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Speaker 1: deep in your career, that's where the stats have to matter,

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Speaker 1: and that's where we can't get numb to it, and

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Speaker 1: when you're on a real contender, which gets us to

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Speaker 1: our next topic. Go ahead to manz La is now.

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Speaker 2: The two seed and Lucas seems to be mentioned pretty

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Speaker 2: well with the Lakers. He's starting to pop out, looking

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Speaker 2: very comfortable. And now the Lakers are currently plus fifteen

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Speaker 2: hundred and tied for fourth to win the finals. They

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Speaker 2: do have the third hardest remaining strength to schedule. How's

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Speaker 2: it looking over there at LA Do we feel about that?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think they can win the title.

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Speaker 2: I think you can get there for sure.

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Speaker 1: I think Boston would be a brutal matchup. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: I don't. But Cleveland might be a tough matchup for Boston,

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Speaker 1: and I so I think they can. So here's the thing.

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Speaker 2: Beat up on the on the Calves, beat up on

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Speaker 2: them a little bit before they get there. Yeah, or

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Speaker 2: the Calves beat them right exactly.

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Speaker 1: The Calves could beat him. What the Here is the

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Speaker 1: the perfect scenario for the Lakers, And it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: very hard to thread this needle because, as you mentioned,

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Speaker 1: third hardest schedule, it's gonna be hard to stay as

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Speaker 1: the two. The perfect scenario for the Lakers is to

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Speaker 1: stay as the two or the three and have Denver

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Speaker 1: drop to the four or the five and have Denver

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Speaker 1: Okse both on the other side of the bracket and

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Speaker 1: have to play each other in round two and have

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Speaker 1: that be ah because I think the Lakers could beat

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Speaker 1: one of those teams. I don't think they could beat

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Speaker 1: both of those teams. But they have the number one

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Speaker 1: defense in the league over the last twenty games, that's

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Speaker 1: a quarter of the season. You are getting elite production

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Speaker 1: on both ends from Lebron and Luca is slowly turning

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Speaker 1: back into Luca that and also, man, I the I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna eat some of your follow up questions here to

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Speaker 1: Monte because we don't have a ton of time anyone

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00:54:57,080 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 1: still caping for Darvinham? Was dark just a Lebron scapegoat.

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00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 1: Did Lebron just hire his podcast buddy or did the

705
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:10,720
Speaker 1: Lakers have a massive problem at the head coach position

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00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 1: the last few years and they're way better now? And listen,

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Speaker 1: I haven't been. I wasn't a big JJ guy. I

708
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:20,280
Speaker 1: was really worried about his ability to handle the media,

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00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 1: which is weird from a guy who was in the media.

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Speaker 1: But and so I'm not going to act like I

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00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,520
Speaker 1: thought this was a home run higher I didn't. But

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Speaker 1: I did think they needed to move on from Ham.

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Speaker 1: And I did hear people say Lebron gets his way again,

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Speaker 1: gets his podcast buddy as the head coach. Okay, if

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Speaker 1: that's the case, does he get credit? I'm just curious.

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Speaker 1: I just want to I don't know the rules of

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00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:54,359
Speaker 1: this stuff. I know that Lebron made them trade all

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00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 1: their future for Anthony Davis? How did that turn out? Well?

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Speaker 1: Lebron making them trade for Anthony Davis got them a

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Speaker 1: championship and Luka Doncic does that at least even out

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Speaker 1: Lebron making them trade for Russell Westbrook and Lebron made

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Speaker 1: them higher. Jj Reddick, well, when he potentially wins Coach

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Speaker 1: of the Year this year or at least finishes in

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Speaker 1: the top three, does Lebron get to at least take

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Speaker 1: a picture with the trophy? I don't know. All right,

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00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 1: another team with that has skyrocketed on the championship ods

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Speaker 1: the Warriors. Let's do them Warriors.

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Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler, Man, they're looking good as well. Steph Curry's

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Speaker 2: out there, Duncan, but Jimmy Butler might have given him

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Speaker 2: a little bit of life of Golden State is currently

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Speaker 2: plus fifteen hundred and also time for fourth to win

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Speaker 2: the finals. How we feel about them?

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Speaker 1: I don't think they can win the West. I do

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Speaker 1: think that they now can win a playoff series, but

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Speaker 1: we got to see where they fall. So they have

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Speaker 1: fought their way out of the play in line for now,

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Speaker 1: but it's tenuous. I don't think they're gonna catch Houston.

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Speaker 1: So Houston is the five seed and is four games

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Speaker 1: up on the Warriors. I do think it is valuable

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Speaker 1: for the Warriors to stay the six, but that's six

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Speaker 1: line unless yeh. If Denver or the Lakers drop down

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Speaker 1: to the four to five, then the six line could

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Speaker 1: be valuable. If they don't, then that six line could

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00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 1: be deadly, man, because you're playing the Lakers or Denver

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Speaker 1: and round one, the Warriors, you know, don't have I

746
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 1: don't think the roster to deal with the Lakers, and

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00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:54,320
Speaker 1: they've got no one to deal with Joker. Well nobody does.

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Speaker 1: And so right now they've got twenty eight losses, The

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Speaker 1: Clippers have twenty eight losses, the Kings of twenty eight losses,

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Speaker 1: and then the Timbrels are sitting there with twenty nine losses.

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Speaker 1: So do I think the Warriors in round one could

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00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:11,479
Speaker 1: beat Memphis? Yes? Do I think they could beat Houston? Yes?

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Speaker 1: Do I think they could beat Okay see the Lakers

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Speaker 1: or Denver? I do not, So I don't. I to me,

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00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 1: there's three teams that can win the West Okay see

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Speaker 1: Denver and the Lakers. I do think the Warriors, though,

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00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 1: gave themselves a puncher's chance, which you are obligated to

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00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 1: do when you have one of the fifteen greatest players

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Speaker 1: ever in Steph Curry and he's still playing at a

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00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 1: high level. You're obligated. Go ahead.

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Speaker 2: Well, do you think Jimmy Butler, being the player that

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Speaker 2: he is and how he is in with previous teams,

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Speaker 2: that this is just like the honeymoon phase. It's good

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00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 2: that you know the new car smell. Do you think

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Speaker 2: it'll flame out Jimmy Butler potentially gets.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I mean listen at some point because everything ends

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00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 1: poorly with Jimmy. But they don't need to worry about

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00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 1: that right now. I think they that when they when

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Speaker 1: they signed up for it, like Jimmy at the end

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Speaker 1: will be bad, But if you get a couple of

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Speaker 1: years of playoff Jimmy, it's worth it. That's just who

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Speaker 1: he is at this point. So yeah, I don't think

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty seven this looks good. But right now

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Speaker 1: you gave yourself a fighting chance. All right. Before we

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Speaker 1: a bit. I now ask you a question, which is,

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Speaker 1: so you are you want to come to the defense

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Speaker 1: of your guide, Jason Tatum. So what's happening with Jason

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Speaker 1: Tatum that he needs defending and how do you want

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Speaker 1: to defend him?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? See, that's what I wasn't trying to put on

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Speaker 2: a cape and they'd be like, hey, guys, stop making

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Speaker 2: fun of Jason Tatum. But at the same time, like

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Speaker 2: I just you know, they blew the game to the

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Speaker 2: Calves over the course of three quarters. The other day

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Speaker 2: he does the f out of here and everybody jumps

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Speaker 2: on that they went up over I think it was

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Speaker 2: like twenty five to three against the Calves. It's like

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Speaker 2: everybody's killing them, Like play the whole game through. They're

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Speaker 2: up twenty five to three in the first quarter. I

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Speaker 2: just don't understand it as like why everybody's acting like

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Speaker 2: he blew that lead in the last like minute and

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Speaker 2: a half the game. It's a long basketball game. People

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Speaker 2: are gonna talk mess. I feel like other guys don't

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Speaker 2: get killed for that. But it's it's just Tatum people.

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Speaker 2: People just love the back of them.

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Speaker 1: He here's the thing, And like I can't explain it. Uh,

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Speaker 1: But I think people since an inauthenticity with him, and

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Speaker 1: it turns some of them off, Like so you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean. I just think I think whatever he

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Speaker 1: gets the opposite of what Anthony Edwards gets. So Anthony

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Speaker 1: Edwards is kind of a goofball on a lot of stuff.

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Speaker 1: He's already gotten suspence, He's already at sixteen textas gets

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Speaker 1: suspended for it, throws the ball into the crowd, curses

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Speaker 1: like a junior high schooler. Seems to be kind of

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Speaker 1: reckless off the court, let's say, but he seems so

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Speaker 1: incredibly comfortable with exactly who he is. People are drawn

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Speaker 1: to that. I think oddly people get the opposite feeling

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Speaker 1: from Tatum, like he's always performing, and so I think

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Speaker 1: people are more skeptical.

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Speaker 2: When he said I out of here, I feel like

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Speaker 2: that was probably closer to him than wouldever the other

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Speaker 2: answer it. Like, I feel I feel like that was

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Speaker 2: him kind of coming out, I don't want to say,

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Speaker 2: coming out of his shell. Like it's like Jason Tamy's

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Speaker 2: obviously been in the NBA for a while.

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Speaker 1: No I get the finals, but uh's and then maybe

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01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 1: so maybe he gets criticized either way. All right. Now

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Speaker 1: you also, so we have questions about Shore Sanders the quarterback.

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01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:30,520
Speaker 1: Other people seem to have a questions about Sure Sanders

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Speaker 1: the leaders personality, those things. You have a different question.

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Speaker 2: I think, go ahead, Well it's not really a question,

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Speaker 2: but I saw that where is that he was a

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Speaker 2: little difficult with the team meetings or whatever and the

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Speaker 2: combine He's like, if you don't want to change the culture,

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Speaker 2: don't get me. And my thoughts on that are just like, hey, dude,

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Speaker 2: wherever you go, please you better change the culture. Make

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Speaker 2: sure you do that, because I don't understand why people

851
01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 2: do that, Like I understand, like you know, I don't

852
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:00,959
Speaker 2: want to make it like I don't have that dog

853
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 2: in me and like be like why I put those

854
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:05,760
Speaker 2: types of types of pressures on myself. But at the

855
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 2: same time, I feel like there's also a better way

856
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:10,040
Speaker 2: to do that, that way saying it like that, it's

857
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 2: just what do you talk about, dude?

858
01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 1: Well it also here's the other piece of it. It does,

859
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 1: but it welcomes the question of did he change the

860
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:25,720
Speaker 1: culture or did Dion because Dion ain't gonna be there,

861
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 1: and so like that there is that piece of it.

862
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 1: I like Shidor the kid. I thought he had some

863
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 1: crummy tweets about a year and a half ago about

864
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 1: some teammates.

865
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:41,440
Speaker 2: I didn't love that his dad, I'm pretty sure right,

866
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 2: but that was.

867
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 1: But he's a I think for the most part, he

868
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:50,040
Speaker 1: has handled fame and wealth far better than most young

869
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 1: people would. So I give him real credit for that,

870
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 1: and everyone that's been around him is really impressed by him.

871
01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 1: I just don't know if he's going to be a

872
01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 1: top flight NFL quarterback, and I think he could sl

873
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:05,280
Speaker 1: come the draft way further than most people think. Uh

874
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:08,840
Speaker 1: And so like there is that piece. I'm gonna add

875
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 1: one other thing before we get to the listener questions.

876
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:22,640
Speaker 1: So almost a decade ago, right around the time that

877
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 1: I moved to LA and was commuting LA to Houston,

878
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 1: Demanse started playing for a high level A This isn't

879
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 1: about what you said last night. Demanse started playing for

880
01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:41,840
Speaker 1: a high level AU basketball team called Basketball University that

881
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:48,000
Speaker 1: DeMont listened. Demanse went to a six A high school

882
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:54,120
Speaker 1: in Houston and was team MVP in all district. Is

883
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 1: a junior for a school with three thousand kids. Demanse

884
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 1: was a legitimately high Major D one recruitable basketball player

885
01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 1: and was playing on a summer team league team that

886
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:10,680
Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say, tell me if I'm

887
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:13,480
Speaker 1: you know, offending you here had seven kids who were

888
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 1: better than.

889
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 2: You on that white team. Yeah, I mean, yeah, that's

890
01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:19,360
Speaker 2: that's what they were telling me. I'd be like the

891
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:20,200
Speaker 2: eighth or ninth option.

892
01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I mean, and I think and I think

893
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:24,040
Speaker 1: it was fair. I mean I think they were. I

894
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 1: mean it was.

895
01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 2: I mean, they had a couple, might be a couple

896
01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:28,680
Speaker 2: that I might not have agreed with, but for the

897
01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:31,400
Speaker 2: most part sor but like at least.

898
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:33,800
Speaker 1: The day you walked in, there were seven kids better

899
01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 1: than yes, whatever it was. So the point that I'm

900
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 1: making is demand was a legit awesome basketball player and

901
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 1: got with a team that had nothing but legit awesome

902
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:51,920
Speaker 1: basketball players. And they were all your age except for

903
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 1: one kid. They were all kids that were going to

904
01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:58,760
Speaker 1: be seniors, except for one kid who was going to

905
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:05,040
Speaker 1: be a sophomore, who was, to my eye, just so,

906
01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 1: you better than everybody.

907
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:08,919
Speaker 2: Oh you said it. It's really funny. From the jump.

908
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 2: I don't know like what got the conversation started. But

909
01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 2: back in that time, like we went back home or something.

910
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:18,240
Speaker 2: Somebody had asked about practice, and somebody asked about Quentin

911
01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:20,000
Speaker 2: and you just finally said, like, the kid's gonna go

912
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 2: to the NBA. You're just like, yeah, he's definitely going

913
01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:26,240
Speaker 2: to the NBA. And yes, So there was one kid

914
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:28,400
Speaker 2: there ruined a part of the story, but that.

915
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:30,919
Speaker 1: No, it's totally fine because he didn't say the full name,

916
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:36,440
Speaker 1: who was fifteen years old, who was not the biggest

917
01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 1: kid and did not have the best shot, but was

918
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:46,720
Speaker 1: just clearly the best. And I was like, oh, that

919
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:49,640
Speaker 1: kid's a pro. It was like, that kid is a pro.

920
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:53,800
Speaker 1: And I and I told, I told demonsday after the

921
01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:58,600
Speaker 1: first practice, it's like, that kid's a pro. And then

922
01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:03,320
Speaker 1: I followed him and he was His name's Quinton Grimes

923
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:09,640
Speaker 1: and coming out of high school he was the number

924
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 1: eight kid in the nation by Rivals five star. Went

925
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:23,519
Speaker 1: to Kansas and had one of the weirdest years of

926
01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:28,760
Speaker 1: any player I've ever seen, because I really was invested

927
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 1: in this kid, because I really liked his dad, Because

928
01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:35,439
Speaker 1: I would the practices were so far away, it's like

929
01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:37,680
Speaker 1: an hour drive to go to the practice, that I

930
01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:40,800
Speaker 1: would just stay. I wasn't really like a helicopter dad

931
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:43,000
Speaker 1: of this stuff, but I'm not. There's nowhere for me

932
01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:46,760
Speaker 1: to go, so I'd stay and watch Quinton. In his

933
01:08:47,040 --> 01:08:53,960
Speaker 1: first ever college game for Kansas against Michigan State as

934
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:59,160
Speaker 1: a true freshman, had twenty one and four on fifty

935
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:04,639
Speaker 1: percent shooting, hit six threes. In his second college game ever,

936
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:12,719
Speaker 1: he had ten and ten, ten points, ten assists, and

937
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:18,719
Speaker 1: then just never played well for them again. Had won,

938
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:24,679
Speaker 1: like I lost law. I think it remained a starter,

939
01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:29,360
Speaker 1: but just was awesome his first two games and then

940
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:31,600
Speaker 1: I don't know, like I didn't follow it enough to

941
01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:33,080
Speaker 1: be like, did he have falling out with the coach?

942
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:36,679
Speaker 1: What was it? I don't know, But by game five

943
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:42,519
Speaker 1: was playing fifteen minutes and then it just never in

944
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:46,600
Speaker 1: the tournament, you know, was two for ten in the

945
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:51,599
Speaker 1: first tournament game. It just didn't work and he ended

946
01:09:51,680 --> 01:10:00,040
Speaker 1: up uh transferring to Houston, and by the end of

947
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:02,799
Speaker 1: his time at Houston he played. So he was supposed

948
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 1: to be a one and done, no doubt. Kid ended

949
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:11,719
Speaker 1: up playing three years and being a late first round

950
01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:17,680
Speaker 1: pick and is now played for four NBA teams. The

951
01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:20,479
Speaker 1: Knicks drafted him, they traded him to the Pistons. He

952
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:23,080
Speaker 1: got traded to the MAVs traded him to the Sixers.

953
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:28,920
Speaker 1: And the reason I'm telling the story is because I

954
01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:37,480
Speaker 1: was in New Zealand and I saw that the Sixers

955
01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:41,920
Speaker 1: beat the Warriors. It's the only Warriors loss since they

956
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 1: have Jimmy, And I'm like, how the hell did that happen?

957
01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 1: And I look at the box score and I'm like,

958
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:55,479
Speaker 1: did Maxi go crazy? And Maxie had five points on

959
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:58,720
Speaker 1: two of fourteen shooting, and I'm like, well, I know

960
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 1: Paul George didn't go crazy, So how did they win?

961
01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:07,840
Speaker 1: And Quentin Grimes had forty four points in an.

962
01:11:07,800 --> 01:11:11,160
Speaker 2: NBA man Golden State.

963
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:17,120
Speaker 1: Against the Warriors, and it made me so happy. And

964
01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:20,080
Speaker 1: I text Demons and I was like, hey, when you

965
01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:23,080
Speaker 1: get a chance, check the Sixers Warriors box score.

966
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:25,760
Speaker 2: And so because when you texted me that, I was like,

967
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 2: all right, what's he talking about? And then I went there.

968
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:29,800
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, Like that was a

969
01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 2: It's forty four, man, that's the never that could never

970
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:36,160
Speaker 2: be taken from me. Like forty four, No, I think anything.

971
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:41,760
Speaker 1: Game he's gonna get. So here's the other thing he's

972
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:46,280
Speaker 1: gonna get. Good run with the Sixers. The rest of

973
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:50,640
Speaker 1: the year. This is the final year of his rookie contract.

974
01:11:51,840 --> 01:11:55,439
Speaker 1: And now he's got a career, like you know what

975
01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 1: I mean, Like now he's been the so like he's

976
01:12:00,479 --> 01:12:00,920
Speaker 1: I don't know.

977
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:03,800
Speaker 2: What type of downfall kind of helping this. I don't

978
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:06,519
Speaker 2: want to say downfall, but like, yes, lack of production

979
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:08,040
Speaker 2: from him, right.

980
01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:13,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, so like he uh, the fact that he has

981
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:19,639
Speaker 1: reef kind you know, he's a reliable three and D guy,

982
01:12:20,760 --> 01:12:24,080
Speaker 1: and those guys in the NBA that now, even if

983
01:12:24,120 --> 01:12:27,680
Speaker 1: you don't do much else, he's gonna you know, they

984
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:31,880
Speaker 1: make ten million dollars. Like it's just so cool. I'm

985
01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:34,640
Speaker 1: just I couldn't believe it when I and when you

986
01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 1: saw the forty forty four point game against a team

987
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:42,559
Speaker 1: fighting for playoff position that cares. I just it made

988
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:45,639
Speaker 1: me happy. All right, Uh, let's do some quick listener

989
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 1: questions also a reminder like rate subscriber review, do all

990
01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:52,040
Speaker 1: that stuff. I mean, we really covered the gamut today.

991
01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:57,600
Speaker 1: But go ahead, demons, I say, Louis says, greeting from Portugal.

992
01:12:57,640 --> 01:12:58,519
Speaker 1: Appreciate that.

993
01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:03,840
Speaker 2: Go to Max here, Max is, what was your favorite

994
01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:05,559
Speaker 2: thing you did in New Zealand. It's been on my

995
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:06,439
Speaker 2: bucket list. Forever.

996
01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 1: The South Island and Queenstown in particular is the most

997
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:21,120
Speaker 1: beautiful place I've ever been in the world. And we

998
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:27,280
Speaker 1: took this little eight person plaine from Queenstown to the

999
01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:30,439
Speaker 1: Milford Sound, which isn't a sound, it's actually a fjord,

1000
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:38,320
Speaker 1: but doesn't matter, and you fly over these mountains that

1001
01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:42,760
Speaker 1: have glaciers on them, even though it's the summer down there,

1002
01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:47,720
Speaker 1: those glacier they're glaciers, so they're there forever that it's

1003
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:53,160
Speaker 1: these like reflective ponds that are like a bright turquoise

1004
01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 1: color because it's glacier ice, plus like the minerals from

1005
01:13:56,479 --> 01:14:01,760
Speaker 1: the mountain, and you're looking at a place that like

1006
01:14:01,840 --> 01:14:06,040
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, human beings have never set foot there ever,

1007
01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:09,479
Speaker 1: right there's nowhere to land, there's no road, there's no anything,

1008
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:14,960
Speaker 1: you know, you're just looking at it untouched. And then

1009
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:17,960
Speaker 1: you land and you take this boat right around Milford

1010
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:22,599
Speaker 1: Sound and it's just one of the most remarkable places

1011
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:26,320
Speaker 1: in the world, and so there's not a lot to do.

1012
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:29,160
Speaker 1: Like I was also shocked at how many people in

1013
01:14:29,160 --> 01:14:32,160
Speaker 1: New Zealand. I'm going to sound like a jerk here,

1014
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:35,120
Speaker 1: how many people in New Zealand watch American Sports TV.

1015
01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:40,080
Speaker 1: That's what I'll say. But uh, it was just the

1016
01:14:40,320 --> 01:14:42,080
Speaker 1: It was the prettiest place I've ever been.

1017
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:51,160
Speaker 2: What are you laughing about? Yeah, exactly, I know. I

1018
01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:53,599
Speaker 2: know you said you wanted to avoid people or avoid

1019
01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:55,400
Speaker 2: places where folks say a be.

1020
01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:58,360
Speaker 1: At c yet no, no, no, but it was. It was,

1021
01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:02,200
Speaker 1: But it was. And to me, I would say one

1022
01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:09,559
Speaker 1: other thing on this and then we'll then we gotta

1023
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:15,559
Speaker 1: go because this is ninety minute pot because it's a

1024
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:25,559
Speaker 1: seventeen hour flight. It's doable if you're smart about how

1025
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:30,240
Speaker 1: you do it. So my recommendation for anybody that's on

1026
01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:38,519
Speaker 1: one of those flights, stay up for the first four

1027
01:15:38,560 --> 01:15:41,400
Speaker 1: hours if you can of the flight, like, watch a

1028
01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:45,679
Speaker 1: couple movies, eat, don't go to sleep early in the flight.

1029
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:52,080
Speaker 1: And then what I did both legs was stayed up

1030
01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:59,320
Speaker 1: those first four hours, had a couple cocktails. I don't

1031
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:01,599
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm supposed to say this or not.

1032
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:03,479
Speaker 1: Now that I said I had a couple of cocktails,

1033
01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:05,599
Speaker 1: I'll say what I did, had a couple of glasses

1034
01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:10,680
Speaker 1: of wine and took one Advill pm uh and then

1035
01:16:10,760 --> 01:16:13,320
Speaker 1: just slept for ten hours. So you stay up for

1036
01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:17,080
Speaker 1: the first four sleep as long as you can, and

1037
01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:19,880
Speaker 1: then you're up for the last two. And we were like, Nick,

1038
01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:23,800
Speaker 1: you're flying first class. No I'm not. I'm not. Uh,

1039
01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:29,320
Speaker 1: And so the the first class tickets were sticker priced

1040
01:16:29,439 --> 01:16:32,679
Speaker 1: thirty thousand dollars a person, So I'm like, I don't

1041
01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:35,640
Speaker 1: think anyone actually buys these, like you can then like

1042
01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:39,679
Speaker 1: bid on upgrades or whatever. So the but the regular

1043
01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:43,200
Speaker 1: tickets were, you know, a couple grand. So it's listen,

1044
01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:45,439
Speaker 1: it's not a it's not a cheap trip, but it's

1045
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:49,000
Speaker 1: not it's not like, you know, undoable as long as

1046
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:53,400
Speaker 1: you can do with the flight, And so I thought, you, well, here,

1047
01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:57,360
Speaker 1: I don't understand that. So I don't understand the the

1048
01:16:57,960 --> 01:17:00,559
Speaker 1: This is the second trip I've been on where when

1049
01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:03,719
Speaker 1: I went to buy the plane tickets the listed price

1050
01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:09,080
Speaker 1: for first class was thirty thousand dollars and my for

1051
01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:12,320
Speaker 1: one ticket round trip. And my reaction to that always

1052
01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:16,960
Speaker 1: is like, doesn't everyone who has thirty thousand dollars spend

1053
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:21,240
Speaker 1: on a ticket already on their own? Like I just don't.

1054
01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:25,599
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like maybe it's business travelers and companies

1055
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:28,519
Speaker 1: are paying for it, So I don't know what did happen.

1056
01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:33,720
Speaker 1: I will say this. I flew quantas is. They then

1057
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:40,040
Speaker 1: let you because shockingly first class uh didn't sell out.

1058
01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:42,760
Speaker 1: They then send you an email and like, hey, do

1059
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:48,360
Speaker 1: you want to bid? Send in a blind bid to upgrade,

1060
01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:51,559
Speaker 1: and so uh you know what I mean. So I

1061
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:54,400
Speaker 1: did that, didn't get the upgrade on the way back,

1062
01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:59,320
Speaker 1: and so the and but so whatever, like it was

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Speaker 1: totally worth it.

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Speaker 2: And I I you know, I love everyone from the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, your mom posted it. All right, great show, great

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Speaker 1: job everybody. I'll see you guys on Collins Show in

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Speaker 1: about ninety minutes. I will see you guys on First

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Speaker 1: Things First in a few hours. Brew is back, Wild

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Speaker 1: is back, whole crew back on First Things First, Like,

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Speaker 1: great subscribe review, do all that stuff. Talk to you

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Speaker 1: guys later. What's right,