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Speaker 2: That's good to be all. That's good to be a man.

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Speaker 2: I don't know about you, but I'm feeling fired up.

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Speaker 3: Sounds and sights from Chicago last night. Welcome to the

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Speaker 3: Wednesday edition of Balance of Power Live from Chicago and

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Speaker 3: Bloomberg TV and Radio. Alongside Kaylee Lines, I'm Joe Matthew.

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Speaker 3: Having heard from the former President Barack Obama the former

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Speaker 4: Yeah, of course, two of the most popular figures in

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Speaker 5: But that was not all.

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Speaker 4: We also heard from the Second Gentleman, Doug M Hoff,

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Speaker 4: who spoke about his wife, Kamala Harris, even though she

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Speaker 4: Having gone with Tim Walls to Milwaukee, Wisconsin, filling the

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Speaker 4: Pfizer Forum where the RNC was held last month with

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Speaker 3: Made a brief appearance on the video screen. Yeah, people

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Speaker 3: are getting a little bit Kamala Harris before the big speech.

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Speaker 3: This one, of course, Day three a fight for our

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Speaker 6: But of course the.

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Speaker 3: Headliner tonight is going to be her running mate, Tim Walls.

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Speaker 4: let's get the latest now and a recap of last

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Speaker 4: night with Bloomberg's Tyler Kendall, who has eyes on the

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Speaker 4: United Center here in Chicago. Tyler, Yeah, hey, Kaylee.

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Speaker 7: Night was actually the first time that we heard from

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Speaker 7: last night was largely seen as this transition moment here

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Speaker 7: at the Democratic National Convention, from President Biden's speech on

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Speaker 7: Monday night to now introducing voters to this new Democratic ticket.

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Speaker 7: I want you to take a listen here to former

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Speaker 6: The torch has been passed.

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Speaker 8: Now it is up to all of us to fight

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Speaker 8: for the America we believe in. For all the incredible

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Speaker 8: for all the rallies and the memes, huh, this will

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Speaker 7: Both the former President and former First Lady Michelle Obama,

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Speaker 7: we know that we know that now Minnesota Governor Tim

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Speaker 3: It's going to be a big night. Of course, Tyler

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Speaker 9: Well, I mean, certainly this week is not a week

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Speaker 9: Probably more than usual because there's so much focus on

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Speaker 9: She has some reasonably credible proposals on that I think

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Speaker 4: Well and u kean on housing specifically. That's actually something

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Speaker 8: And she's put out a bug and planted you just then.

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Speaker 9: I mean one difference is there is a commitment. So far,

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Speaker 3: Have they heard that you need to say that that's goods.

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Speaker 3: Let me just ask you the same question slightly differently.

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Speaker 3: Are we sitting here in Chicago making too much of

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Speaker 9: There's one concrete thing which a president can do to

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Speaker 3: So the prospect of making it worse is more likely

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Speaker 9: But I think you make a good point that it

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Speaker 4: Stephanie Flanders, thank you so much for joining us now

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Speaker 8: We believe the true freedom gives each of us the

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Speaker 6: The ties that bind us together are still there.

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Speaker 8: We still coach Little League and look out for our

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Speaker 4: Joining us now for more on what we heard last

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Speaker 4: Night three, and of course ultimately night four of the

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Speaker 4: Democratic National Convention here in Chicago is Brad Howard. He

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Speaker 4: is Corcoran Street Group founder and a Democratic strategist here

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Speaker 5: Always good to.

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Speaker 5: Brad.

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Speaker 4: We heard from both of the Obamas yesterday what felt

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Speaker 3: You mentioned the protesters, Brad, we haven't seen what many

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Speaker 4: And finally, we only have a minute left, Brad. But

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Speaker 6: Yess some news. Well we're going to see it.

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Speaker 11: But you know, I'm excited tonight to hear from Bill Clinton.

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Speaker 3: Great to see in Chicago, Thank you, welcome back home

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Speaker 4: It is Day three turning into night three. This is

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Speaker 3: They'll be upping the ante here as each night goes by,

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Speaker 3: As we seize upon the voice of San Francisco, not

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Speaker 3: You have known Kamala Harris for a long time. You've

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Speaker 5: Wow, me give Kamala Harris advice. I'm not used to

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Speaker 12: But the one thing I would say, when she is

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Speaker 4: Well, certainly she's leaned into her past experience as a

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Speaker 12: Well, I think it's important for her to talk about

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Speaker 12: She wrote a book about it. She said, it's not

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Speaker 3: wrong with progressive politics when it comes to crime. I

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Speaker 3: know that you've tried to make strides in San Francisco,

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Speaker 3: and how do you message that, Yes, what you're hearing

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Speaker 3: so much from the other.

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Speaker 12: Side, Well, we have made strides, and in fact, San

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Speaker 12: Francisco has one of the lowest crime rates of any

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Speaker 12: major city in the country. This is the lowest crime

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Speaker 12: rate we've had in over a decade, and not to mention,

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Speaker 12: we are on track to have even one of the

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Speaker 12: most the lowest homicide rates we've had in the history

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Speaker 12: of our city.

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Speaker 5: So when you.

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Speaker 12: FactCheck and you look at the data and look at

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Speaker 12: actually what's happening in San Francisco, people will be surprised.

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Speaker 12: When I talk to other mayors, they're like, I wish

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Speaker 12: I had those kind of small, big city problems, and

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Speaker 12: the data doesn't lie. And I think if people look

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Speaker 12: deep into what is going on in San Francisco, they'll

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Speaker 12: see that it is one of the safest cities in

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Speaker 12: the country.

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Speaker 4: Of course, it's not just about crime, it's about the

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Speaker 4: wire issue of homelessness. To you yourself have called for

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Speaker 4: tough love when it comes to the notion of clearing

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Speaker 4: out tent encampments, for example. Is that tough love working

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Speaker 4: without progress on that front.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's been challenging.

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Speaker 12: But since I've been in office, we've helped over fifteen

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Speaker 12: thousand people exit homelessness. We've never even had a point

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Speaker 12: in time account with more than like eight thousand or

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Speaker 12: so people, So it's been really a tough struggle. But

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Speaker 12: we also have to make sure when people are rejecting

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Speaker 12: what we're offering in terms of services, we are now

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Speaker 12: no longer just leaving them out on the streets, and

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Speaker 12: we're being a lot more aggressive. To a certain extent,

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Speaker 12: it's working because more people are accepting help, but there

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Speaker 12: are still a really tough group of people, mostly tragically

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Speaker 12: because of drug use. That's having an impact. We're still

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Speaker 12: struggling with that point, but we're still making progress. The

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Speaker 12: streets look better, it looks cleaner. We have one neighborhood

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Speaker 12: that continues to experience more challenges than others. But when

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Speaker 12: you come to San Francisco and you drive around our

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Speaker 12: city and you look around our city, people are always like,

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Speaker 12: what is everyone talking about?

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Speaker 5: So you've got to come see.

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Speaker 12: It for yourself and then check the facts in terms

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Speaker 12: of the data as to what really is happening in

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Speaker 12: San Francisco.

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Speaker 3: Well, if we can hold on to the issue of

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Speaker 3: housing more broadly here, this is a big deal for

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Speaker 3: this campaign and for this economy right now. And I

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Speaker 3: know for a fact that that's not new for you.

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Speaker 3: You've actually made this a major issue for you as

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Speaker 3: a city official, as a commissioner, as mayor taking different ideas,

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Speaker 3: experimental ideas to see what can be done to create

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Speaker 3: more housing. I know that there's an effort to get

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Speaker 3: people to a point where they can afford a first

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Speaker 3: time home, but you need something to move into. You've

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Speaker 3: suggested a lot of different ideas and tried them out,

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Speaker 3: like converting empty public housing, for instance, city housing, city buildings. Rather,

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Speaker 3: what advice do you have for the campaign that could

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Speaker 3: be a national model to create more housing in this country.

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Speaker 12: Well, Kambala Harris said it on the stage to say,

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Speaker 12: getting rid of the red hate that makes it difficult

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Speaker 12: to produce housing.

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Speaker 5: And fortunately in California.

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Speaker 12: That just happened with a bill that was passed by

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Speaker 12: the state legislature led.

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Speaker 5: By Senator Scott Wiener from San.

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Speaker 12: Francisco, and that bill will allow housing to be as

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Speaker 12: of right if the zoning already allows for you to

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Speaker 12: do for six eight stories, why is there so many

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Speaker 12: obstacles that are able to get in the way, And

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Speaker 12: now that won't happen as long as you're following what

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Speaker 12: the existing laws.

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Speaker 3: Are requirements for us. Yes, yes, San.

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Speaker 12: Francisco, definitely we could have those or not have those.

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Speaker 12: We were making our city more of a transit first

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Speaker 12: city as well as protected bike lanes allowing different modes

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Speaker 12: of transportations to thrive in our city. So it's all

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Speaker 12: of the above, and bureaucratic red tape is at the

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Speaker 12: heart of the challenges that exist. And I love the

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Speaker 12: fact that our vice president soon to be president, put

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Speaker 12: that at the forefront of the conversation in California is

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Speaker 12: already leading the way.

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Speaker 4: Well, certainly she has to at the forefront of the conversation.

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Speaker 4: Have these notions of the economy, knowing it ranks so

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Speaker 4: highly consistently in pulls as the top issue voters. Another

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Speaker 4: issue that ranks highly though, is the border and migration.

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Speaker 4: You hear frequently in the Republican camp that every state,

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Speaker 4: every city is now effectively a border city. How do

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Speaker 4: you view that issue when it comes not just to

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Speaker 4: the city of San Francisco, but the state of California

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Speaker 4: as a whole, And what the appropriate if we're going

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Speaker 4: with a tough love kind of message here way is

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Speaker 4: to deal with migration in the border.

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Speaker 12: Well, it's important for them to implement the plan that

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Speaker 12: they're talking about to make sure that there's a significant

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Speaker 12: level of accountability.

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Speaker 5: But I also want to be very clear because it's

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Speaker 5: not just one thing.

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Speaker 12: It's not just about people, it's also about substances. And

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Speaker 12: in fact, the National Guard, the Drug Enforcement Agency, the

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Speaker 12: US Attorney's Office who's working with us locally and including

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Speaker 12: our state representatives, the California Highway Patrol, the National Guard,

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Speaker 12: they are all collaborating on using technology in a way

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Speaker 12: that is making a rest at the border for the

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Speaker 12: illegal fentanyl that continues to come in to cities like

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Speaker 12: San Francisco, And so that aggressive effort using technology can

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Speaker 12: help us address those issues. In addition to the challenges

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Speaker 12: with people who are coming over the border. I believe

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Speaker 12: that Kamala Harris is the right person to implement a

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Speaker 12: really tough strategy, but also a compassionate and understanding one,

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Speaker 12: especially because it is so complicated in that we are

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Speaker 12: a city, we are a country built on immigrants, and

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Speaker 12: so we have to make sure that we're balancing that

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Speaker 12: as well.

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Speaker 4: You say that she's the right person, and yet, and

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Speaker 4: I'm sure you've heard this frequently in the last several weeks,

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Speaker 4: Republicans argue she was put in charge of the border issue.

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Speaker 4: Maybe not given the actual borders our title, but this

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Speaker 4: was an issue she was supposed to own as vice president.

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Speaker 4: She has been vice president for over three and a

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Speaker 4: half years. If she couldn't get control of it, then

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Speaker 4: how are we supposed to believe she could get control

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Speaker 4: of it when she's actually sitting in the Oval office herself.

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Speaker 5: Well, here's the thing.

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Speaker 12: Control means different things, And I go back to my

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Speaker 12: experience of the control around illegal stuff sences that are

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Speaker 12: making it across border, the number of arrests, the number

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Speaker 12: of drugs that have been confiscated as a result of.

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Speaker 5: The efforts of the White House of the.

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Speaker 12: Federal partners that I mentioned earlier has yielded significant results,

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Speaker 12: and I believe that that component of what they're doing

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Speaker 12: even now has been impactful and will continue to be

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Speaker 12: more impactful. In terms of some of the other challenges

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Speaker 12: they have to continue to make sure that there's you know,

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Speaker 12: a push. I mean everyone's talking about a wall, this

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Speaker 12: and a wall that a wall is not going to

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Speaker 12: you know, continuously keep people out. The goal is to

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Speaker 12: try and get a better control over the border and

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Speaker 12: making sure that we're implementing the right policies and being

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Speaker 12: fair and equitable in our strategies, and developing better relationships

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Speaker 12: with the countries, you know, in order to help support

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Speaker 12: them so that we don't experience this challenge of everyone

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Speaker 12: trying to you know, flee from a particular location to

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Speaker 12: get into the United States.

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Speaker 5: That's a big part of it as well.

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Speaker 3: Well. What happened to California's workforce and economy if Donald

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Speaker 3: Trump did become the next president and shut down the border,

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Speaker 3: as he says, if you had no immigration in the workforce,

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Speaker 3: could your economy sustain itself?

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Speaker 5: Well, that's I don't believe so.

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Speaker 12: I think it's immigration is an important part of how

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Speaker 12: our society works. And we need to make sure that

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Speaker 12: we're balancing that with the needs of the people that

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Speaker 12: we're here to serve. And ultimately, we're seeing some incredible

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Speaker 12: opportunities within the job markets all over the state of California,

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Speaker 12: and our goal is to do everything we can.

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Speaker 5: To balance that.

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Speaker 12: But going back to some of the illegal activities around

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Speaker 12: the drugs, that is the thing that is harming our

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Speaker 12: economy the most, and that is the thing that is

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Speaker 12: important to focus on as we continue to move in

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Speaker 12: this direction.

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Speaker 4: Well, if you listen to Donald Trump, he has said

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Speaker 4: repeatedly that he actually thinks the economic problem with migration,

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Speaker 4: in part is that migrants are coming to this country

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Speaker 4: and they're taking black jobs. He said this on multiple occasions,

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Speaker 4: and it was certainly noted by the former First Lady

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Speaker 4: Michelle Obama last night.

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Speaker 12: Who's gonna tell him that the job he's currently seeking

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Speaker 12: might just be one of those black jobs?

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Speaker 4: One of those moments I think we've all seen on

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Speaker 4: social media a lot in the last twelve hours, certainly,

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Speaker 4: but she, of course was on that stage speaking as

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Speaker 4: a black woman and a powerful one at that, someone

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Speaker 4: who was the first Lady of the United States speaking

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Speaker 4: on behalf of another woman of color who is now

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Speaker 4: the Democratic nominee and will be formally accepting it on Thursday.

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Speaker 4: You yourself are a woman of color as well, and

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Speaker 4: I wonder, as we consider the historic nature of this candidate,

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Speaker 4: how the appropriate way to talk about that is, especially

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Speaker 4: in the face of language like we're hearing from Donald Trump.

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Speaker 4: Do you address it head on or do you ignore it?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 12: I think you address it head on, and I think

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Speaker 12: it has been addressed, for example, applying somehow that Kamala

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Speaker 12: Harris is a DEI candidate and he I mean, it's

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Speaker 12: unbelievable when you look at her qualifications of her just

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Speaker 12: look at her resume in comparison to his, there is

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Speaker 12: no comparison.

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Speaker 5: She wasn't born into privilege.

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Speaker 12: She worked really hard to get a law degree on

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Speaker 12: her own, to really fight for a number of positions

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Speaker 12: that she ran for, and to push for the kinds

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Speaker 12: of policies that have helped to support Americans and the

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Speaker 12: rights of women, LGBTQ.

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Speaker 5: Community, and so on and so forth.

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Speaker 12: I can go on and on, but you know, that's

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Speaker 12: one of the challenges that sometimes, you know, women and

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Speaker 12: women of color have, is well, how did you get there?

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Speaker 12: It must have been someone else. And you know, to

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Speaker 12: be very clear, you know, when the man goes through

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Speaker 12: a same process, that doesn't get questioned. And I think

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Speaker 12: that's kind of the frustrating part of this, which is

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Speaker 12: why I love being a part of the Democratic Party,

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Speaker 12: because you see people who are elevating women. You see

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Speaker 12: many men who spoke last night at the DNC, you know,

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Speaker 12: highlighting Kamala Harris in such an extraordinary way, and I'm

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Speaker 12: really proud, and it's no comparison. I think it's important

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Speaker 12: for us to remind the American people not just of

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Speaker 12: her qualifications, but why is this a race in the

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Speaker 12: first place? In light of what Donald Trump has done

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Speaker 12: to really, you know, create a huge barrier in this

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Speaker 12: country overall, with his policies, with his pushes, with his lies,

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Speaker 12: with his disrespect and his divisiveness.

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Speaker 5: There should not be a question.

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Speaker 12: But we are going to continue to elevate Kamala Harris

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Speaker 12: and do everything we can to ensure that she gets

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Speaker 12: elected the next president of the United States.

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Speaker 3: Just lastly, we hear from Donald Trump and Republicans that

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Speaker 3: Kamala Harris, you're the mayor of San Francisco, is just

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Speaker 3: another San Francisco Liberal. How do you respond to.

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Speaker 12: That, Well, I would respond, I mean the Republicans continue

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Speaker 12: to point to San Francisco, but at the end of

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Speaker 12: the day, oftentimes they are picking up their iPhone, you know,

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Speaker 12: which was introduced in San Francisco, calling their ubers or

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Speaker 12: Lyft companies started and based in San Francisco, to go

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Speaker 12: to their Airbnb company still and started in San Francisco,

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Speaker 12: and then to go and tweet something nasty about our city,

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Speaker 12: which again was a company until recently in San Francisco

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Speaker 12: thirty four billion dollars a venture capitalist investment last year alone,

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Speaker 12: the AI capital of the world.

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Speaker 5: That's what I will say.

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Speaker 12: You can continue to try and put out a narrative,

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Speaker 12: but the facts tell a different story, and we point

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Speaker 12: to the facts and the economy and everything that San

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Speaker 12: Francisco stands for on the world stage, everything that everyone

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Speaker 12: is using as far as technology, it starts right in

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Speaker 12: San Francisco.

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Speaker 5: And again we're looking.

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Speaker 12: Forward to making sure Kamala Harris gets elected because then

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Speaker 12: San Francisco will be on a whole nother national stage.

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Speaker 4: All right, San Francisco, mayor London Breed, great to have

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Speaker 4: you here with us in Chicago.

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Speaker 4: And of course, for someone like Kamala or anyone to

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Speaker 4: be elected, you have to win the electoral college. You

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Speaker 4: got to get those two hundred and seventy electoral college votes.

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Speaker 4: And the map as we understand it includes Joe about

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Speaker 4: seven swing states. But there have been conversations, at least

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Speaker 4: when Biden was still in the races, to whether or

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Speaker 4: not a state like Virginia could be up for grabs

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Speaker 4: for a Republican And even still there does seem to

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Speaker 4: be a suggestion that maybe even a state like Florida

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Speaker 4: could be one up for grab for the Democrats.

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Speaker 3: Oftency you ask, yeah, look our next.

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Speaker 4: Guest indeed, And on that note, we go now to

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Speaker 4: a Congressman from Florida. Democrat, Debbie Wasserman. Schultz is here

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Speaker 4: with us on set in Chicago. Great to see you,

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Speaker 4: to see you both. Congresswoman, if we could just begin

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Speaker 4: knowing that you just had a decisive victory in your

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Speaker 4: primary in Florida last night as well. What are you

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Speaker 4: seeing on the ground in Florida? Do you think it

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Speaker 4: would be wise for the Harris campaign to be investing

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Speaker 4: resources in the state, knowing the many many media markets

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Speaker 4: it has, It's a very expensive state to be competitive in.

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Speaker 4: But if she made the decision to, could she actually

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Speaker 4: be competitive.

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Speaker 13: I'm telling everybody, as our most political folks in Florida,

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Speaker 13: don't sleep on our state. We have some metrics that

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Speaker 13: are emerging. Remember, for most election cycles in this century,

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Speaker 13: we have been a purple state. We've been hyper competitive.

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Speaker 13: Barack Obama won Florida both times that he ran. And

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Speaker 13: I'll give you an example from just yesterday's primary. The

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Speaker 13: just to give you an idea, I won my primary,

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Speaker 13: but it's not the win, it's the difference in the

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Speaker 13: voter turnout between Democrats and Republicans. Thirty four thousand people

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Speaker 13: winner on the Republican side got thirteen thousand votes. So

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Speaker 13: just in terms of enthusiasm, you can see the difference.

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Speaker 13: But polling last week, but both national polls that came

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Speaker 5: And then if you.

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Speaker 13: Look at the volunteer organization on the ground, twenty two

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Speaker 13: thousand people signed up to volunteer to elect Kamala Harris

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Speaker 13: president of the United States. So with the resources and

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Speaker 13: also the Republicans have continued to distort their advantage. They

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Speaker 13: say they have a million more registered voters in Florida.

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Speaker 5: They don't.

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Speaker 13: What they did was that they suppressed the voters who

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Speaker 13: haven't voted in two elections and now show them as

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Speaker 13: inactive even though they're still registered. So there aren't a

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Speaker 13: million more Republicans registered to vote. We have huge enthusiasm.

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Speaker 13: We beat almost every mom's for a liberty candidate that

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Speaker 13: Ron DeSantis endorsed for school board races last night, about

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Speaker 13: almost two dozen that he endorsed and he only won

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Speaker 13: six of them. So the momentum is in our direction.

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Speaker 13: No one should sleep on Florida.

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Speaker 3: Well interesting and looking more broadly Florida and across the

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Speaker 3: country and not just the swing states. Congressmen, our listeners

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Speaker 3: and viewers should be reminded that you were chair of

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Speaker 3: the DNC during Barack Obama's second convention. Yes, as president

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Speaker 3: of the United States, will you seek to duplicate his map?

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Speaker 13: Well, what we're seeking to do is make sure that

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Speaker 13: we can capitalize on the enthusiasm and the contrast between

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Speaker 13: the momentum that we have under Kamala Harrison, Tim Walls

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Speaker 13: because hope and optimism like we had during the Obama

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Speaker 13: years and joy is what is pushing people forward because

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Speaker 13: they want a president who was going to fight for

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Speaker 13: them to reduce prescription drug prices.

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Speaker 3: Well, you weren't talking about more states than you were

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Speaker 3: when Joe Biden was at the top of the ticket.

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Speaker 13: There is no question right now that we have different

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Speaker 13: math in multiple different directions than we had just five,

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Speaker 13: five or six weeks ago. And so what we can't

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Speaker 13: do is just you know, move forward without pivoting and

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Speaker 13: making the kind of adjustments that we need to and

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Speaker 13: being nimble. And that's what our campaign operations are doing

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Speaker 13: right now. And they're doing some recalculations so they can

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Speaker 4: Well, and I wonder how those recalculations are factoring into

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Speaker 4: the likelihood of not just getting the majority in the House,

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Speaker 4: but how large you think your majority could potentially be

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Speaker 4: with Harris at the top of the ticket. You obviously

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Speaker 4: remember of House leadership. Has the goalposts moved. Initially it

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Speaker 4: was like, you just got to get those four seats,

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Speaker 4: but what's the target.

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Speaker 13: Now, Well, we have the net four seats and we

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Speaker 13: have a very clear advantage in the fundraising. We have

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Speaker 13: consistently outraised the NRCC, the Republican Campaign Finance Operation, every

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Speaker 13: single quarter of this election cycle. But it's not just

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Speaker 13: that our incumbent frontline marginal members. They've outraised their opposition,

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Speaker 13: our red to blue candidates. They have a recruitment problem.

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Speaker 13: They've got right wing extremists all over the map. So

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Speaker 13: the contrast is clear all the way down the ticket,

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Speaker 13: from the White House pair of candidates down to legislative races,

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Speaker 13: and voters are going to come out to the polls

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Speaker 13: elect our candidates because they want someone who's thinking about

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Speaker 13: moving forward, not a maga extremist Republican who's buried in

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Speaker 13: the past, who's morose and brooding and unhappy. We've got

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Speaker 13: to make sure that we have a positive, forward thinking

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Speaker 13: government so that we can ensure that this booming economy

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Speaker 13: fifteen million plus jobs, making sure that we continue to

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Speaker 13: bring prescription drug crisis down, that we make sure that

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Speaker 13: we have a plan like Kamala Harris does, to make

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Speaker 13: home ownership affordable, and child tax credit reinstated, so many

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Speaker 13: things that are important on the kitchen table. Not a

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Speaker 13: president like Donald Trump was, who cared only about making

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Speaker 13: sure that the wealthy and the profit and the profitable

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Speaker 3: I want to ask you about an issue I know

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Speaker 3: is very important to you and a lot of progressive Democrats,

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Speaker 3: and that's our policy Israel right now. Is the reason

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Speaker 3: why we've been talking about protesters that in some cases

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Speaker 3: have not materialized here in Chicago. Congresswoman, there are reports

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Speaker 3: today that US and Israeli officials think that this proposal

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Speaker 3: for a bridge ceasefire deal is on the verge of collapsing.

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Speaker 3: We heard from Secretary of State Anthony Blincoln in Doha.

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Speaker 3: Here's what he said. Our message is simple, it's clear,

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Speaker 3: and it's urgent.

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Speaker 14: We need to get the ceasefire and hostage agreement over

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Speaker 14: the finish line, and we need.

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Speaker 6: To do it now.

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Speaker 3: Time is of the essence. How important will it be

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Speaker 3: for a ceasefire to be struck? To find unity among

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Speaker 13: What's important is that Hamas released the hostages. What's important

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Speaker 13: is that Israel not be expected like any other nation,

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Speaker 13: shouldn't be expected to live with a terrorist threat sworn

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Speaker 13: on their destruction and the killing of all Jews on

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Speaker 13: their doorstep. What's important is making sure that the terror,

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Speaker 13: the terror threat that Palestinians and Gaza live with, is

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Speaker 13: ended so that they don't that they can free Gaza

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Speaker 13: from Hamas and that when we reach a ceasefire deal

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Speaker 13: that releases those hostages, that ensures that we can have

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Speaker 13: governance in Gaza that is peaceful and non threatening. That

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Speaker 13: is absolutely essential. The time that's running out is that

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Speaker 13: we have one hundred and nine hostages still there, at

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Speaker 13: least eight that are American that need to be freed.

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Speaker 13: I mean, we have to make sure and thank thanks

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Speaker 13: to the Biden Harris administration for staying at the table

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Speaker 13: pushing the negotiations forward. But Hamas needs to take this deal,

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Speaker 13: that is the bottom line.

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Speaker 4: Well, and we'll wait to see if they do so

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Speaker 4: and on what timeframe, knowing that they also could be

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Speaker 4: considering that it will be a different government come January.

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Speaker 4: If they drag this out long enough, you just mentioned

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Speaker 4: what the Biden Harris administration has done. Do you expect

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Speaker 4: that there would be a serious departure from this administration's

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Speaker 4: policy if it were instead of Harris Walls administration?

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Speaker 5: How does she not from the incoming press, she doesn't differ.

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Speaker 13: She's made very clear that she is right alongside President Biden.

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Speaker 13: She's been a part of those discussions, the negotiations. Kamala

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Speaker 13: Harris supports making sure that we have a ceasefire deal

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Speaker 13: that brings the hostages home, that ends the terrorist threat

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Speaker 13: on Israel' storstep, that ensures that we can get humanitarian

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Speaker 13: assistant and relief to the Palestinians who are victimized by

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Speaker 13: Hamas themselves, and also continuing the strong US aid to Israel.

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Speaker 13: She said very clearly she's not for an arms embargo.

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Speaker 13: We have the strongest plank in the Democratic Party platform,

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Speaker 13: strongest pro Israel plank of any party in decades, and

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Speaker 13: the Republicans come nowhere near the commitments and the specificity

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Speaker 13: in the Democratic Party platform that we have. And that's

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Speaker 13: because the Democratic Party is the one that has solidly

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Speaker 13: and consistently stood with Israel, not just in words, but

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Speaker 13: in actions.

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Speaker 3: What happens to Gaza if Donald Trump is elected.

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Speaker 13: When it comes to how foreign policy is dealt with

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Speaker 13: in general, I'm very fearful about what happens because Donald

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Speaker 13: Trump doesn't actually care about how to make sure that

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Speaker 13: Gaza is governed in the aftermath, and how you end

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Speaker 13: the terrorist threat and ensure that the security apparatus that

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Speaker 13: needs to be in place for Israel is put in

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Speaker 13: place in a way that allows a peaceful transition and

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Speaker 13: the negotiation over an Arab forward governing coalition. He reacts

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Speaker 13: only emotionally and not with thought or commitment. And I'm

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Speaker 13: very fearful because of Project twenty twenty five of who

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Speaker 13: he's going to put in place in these important state

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Speaker 13: department positions to ensure that we have real professionals who

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Speaker 13: are able to do things like Joe Biden has getting

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Speaker 13: these negotiations together and making sure that we have a

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Speaker 13: diplomatic apparatus that has the experience and the commitment they need.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for coming to see Thank you so much. We

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Speaker 3: let the rest of this convention the thanks. Congresswoman Debbie

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Speaker 3: Wasserman Schelse of Florida, former chair of the DNC. We're

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Speaker 3: live in Chicago on Ballots of Power.

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Speaker 4: a little past prime time.

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Speaker 6: That's true, East Coast.

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Speaker 3: We have the benefit at least of being an hour

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Speaker 3: earlier here, yes, past eleven PM when Barack Obama finally

888
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Speaker 3: got on the stage. Remembering Joe Biden's midnight appointments on Monday,

889
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Speaker 3: it's going to be more important, I think for convention

890
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Speaker 3: organizers to make sure the running mate gets on a

891
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Speaker 3: friendlier hour.

892
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Speaker 4: Yeah, because this is the first time for many in

893
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Speaker 4: the country that they will be hearing directly from Minnesota

894
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Speaker 4: Governor Tim Walls. She wasn't necessarily a well known figure

895
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Speaker 4: in democratic politics until Kamala Harris became the presumptive nominee,

896
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Speaker 4: and he coined the phrase weird and describing Donald Trump

897
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Speaker 4: and jd Vance here.

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Speaker 3: We are tonight. I think we'll hear that word with

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Speaker 3: a s our political panel. Rick Davis, partner at Stone

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Speaker 3: Court Capital Republican Strategists alongside Genie shenz Ando, Iona University

901
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Speaker 3: Political Science professor, Senior fellow Democracy with the Center for

902
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Speaker 3: the Study of the Presidency in Congress. Great to see

903
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Speaker 3: you both. Axios reporting that Tim Wallas has never used

904
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Speaker 3: a teleprompter before. Rick, the stakes here and not just

905
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Speaker 3: the speech itself, but the logistics around it. How do

906
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Speaker 3: you prepare a candidate for a moment like.

907
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Speaker 15: That, Well, certainly in this case, if he's never used

908
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Speaker 15: a teleprompter, you get him a lot of work on

909
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Speaker 15: a teleprompter, because, of course, using a teleprompter at press

910
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Speaker 15: conference is one thing. Using it in front of fifty

911
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Speaker 15: thousand people, and in a big night like this, they're

912
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Speaker 15: tricky to use. And so I think getting him comfortable

913
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Speaker 15: with that and comfort matters is probably one of their

914
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Speaker 15: number one situations too, getting him comfortable with the speech. Remember,

915
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Speaker 15: these people have been the nomine He's very long. I

916
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Speaker 15: mean he just emerged ten days ago, and so the

917
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Speaker 15: reality for him is he's had to get comfortable quickly

918
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Speaker 15: with probably the most important speech you'll ever give in

919
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Speaker 15: his entire life. And so at this stage he's probably

920
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Speaker 15: sequestered with his age, running through the speech over and

921
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Speaker 15: over and again, doing some tweaking. But now it's also

922
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Speaker 15: controlling your nerves, because this is a nervous moment when

923
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Speaker 15: you walk out and that crowd goes crazy, and you

924
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Speaker 15: can get really emotional if you don't have control of

925
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Speaker 15: yourself senses.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, a bit higher stakes than you know, a locker

927
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Speaker 4: room pep talk for the team or something like that

928
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Speaker 4: for coach Wall's genie as we've often heard him described.

929
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Speaker 4: But on that note, they have leaned into this image

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Speaker 4: if he was a football coach and a teacher, he's

931
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Speaker 4: America's dad. He's a you know, everyday guy, don't People

932
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Speaker 4: also need to see on that stage, though, someone who

933
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Speaker 4: could assume the office of the presidency if something were

934
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Speaker 4: to happen to Kamala Harris Is there's such a thing

935
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Speaker 4: as too much of the never.

936
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Speaker 5: Too much nice guy?

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Speaker 16: No, I do think because most Americans to your point,

938
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Speaker 16: you know, three weeks ago, outside of his own home state,

939
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Speaker 16: had never heard of him, didn't know who he was.

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Speaker 16: So he is going to have to introduce himself. My

941
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Speaker 16: one concern about the timing is, don't we know that

942
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Speaker 16: Bill Clinton has a part of this tonight, and who

943
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Speaker 16: goes longer than Bill Clinton's So.

944
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Speaker 3: In conclusion, not to pull him in if.

945
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Speaker 16: He hasn't used the teleprompter and spoken at a convention. Gosh,

946
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Speaker 16: my advice would be speed it up, folks. I say

947
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Speaker 16: this in deference to my students. They think we all

948
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Speaker 16: talk very slow because they listen to everything on top

949
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Speaker 16: speed except for you guys, and so speed up the

950
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Speaker 16: speech and ride the applause. You're speaking to people at home,

951
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Speaker 16: not people in the room, So that is he didn't

952
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Speaker 16: ask for my advice, that would be my advice. I

953
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Speaker 16: do think we're gonna hear a lot about the coach.

954
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Speaker 16: I do think we're gonna hear a lot about his partner,

955
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Speaker 16: Kamala Harris. I think we're gonna hear less about policy.

956
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Speaker 16: But I do think he has to make the case

957
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Speaker 16: to them people, God forbid something happens to Kamala Harris

958
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Speaker 16: if they're elected, he is ready to assume that office.

959
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Speaker 16: So you know, people keep telling me Kyle Chandler, I

960
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Speaker 16: don't know who's going to introduce him, but that is

961
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Speaker 16: the coach from Friday Night Life. That's who he's going after.

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Speaker 5: Kaylee.

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Speaker 3: So is mapping all this out.

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Speaker 16: I will say, listen, I got a lot of time

965
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Speaker 16: here in.

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Speaker 5: Chicago, Joe.

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Speaker 3: Well, okay, is he going to address the elephant in

968
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Speaker 3: the room here, the questions of stolen valor and his

969
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Speaker 3: military experience or does he just fly over?

970
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Speaker 15: You know, he might fly high right as you say.

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Speaker 15: He has something to say about that. Obviously, he's proud

972
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Speaker 15: of his service career, and he's made it clear he

973
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Speaker 15: doesn't think that should be part of a campaign, and

974
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Speaker 15: he's actually complimented Jadie Vance's career in the military. So

975
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Speaker 15: I would actually think that he would use that device

976
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Speaker 15: of making the point that we honor everybody's service, no

977
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Speaker 15: matter how or why they do it. And so that's

978
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Speaker 15: a great shout out to every veteran in America. And

979
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Speaker 15: that's how the line of attacks should be. It should

980
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Speaker 15: not be me versus you, it should be we're all

981
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Speaker 15: in this together.

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Speaker 4: Well, we've heard not a lot of attack lines from

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Speaker 4: Democrats here in Chicago, more so just lines of praise

984
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Speaker 4: for both Kamala Harris and Tim Walls, including from the

985
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Speaker 4: Secretary of Agriculture Secretary of Billsack. Tom Bilsack joined Bloomberg

986
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Speaker 4: earlier today in his personal capacity, but he had this

987
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 4: to say about Governor Walls.

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Speaker 14: Governor Walls is someone that you can put into any

989
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Speaker 14: room in any community, in any part of the country.

990
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Speaker 14: He would be able to relate to the people in

991
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Speaker 14: that room, which means that he can be a very

992
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Speaker 14: powerful spokesperson for rural America, for the small towns and

993
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Speaker 14: rural places in the country that oftentimes don't get the

994
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Speaker 14: level of attention that they deserve. He understands that. I

995
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Speaker 14: think that's why he's been successful.

996
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Speaker 4: So on this idea of rural Americas, we consider that

997
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 4: the kinds of populations and demographics they're trying to draw

998
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Speaker 4: out and make sure vote for them in November. What

999
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Speaker 4: is the message that rural America needs to hear, not

1000
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Speaker 4: just from Tim Walls, but from Kamala Harris herself.

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Speaker 16: You know, I think they need to hear that Kamala

1002
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Speaker 16: Harris and Tim Waltz understand the challenges that they are facing.

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Speaker 16: And I couldn't agree more with Tom Vilsack. As important

1004
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 16: as I thought last night was, and as good of

1005
00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,839
Speaker 16: a job as the DNC had, I had a good night.

1006
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Speaker 16: The one criticism I had was the voters they need

1007
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Speaker 16: are these folks that he is talking about, and they

1008
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Speaker 16: are going to have to appeal to them with this

1009
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Speaker 16: message that Kamala Harris we've heard or use, which is

1010
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 16: economic opportunity, sort of borrowing from an old style GOP

1011
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 16: where we were going to have opportunity for freedom, liberty

1012
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:44,640
Speaker 16: and success if you take it. So, I think understanding

1013
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 16: their challenges and letting them know that they and their

1014
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Speaker 16: children and their grandchildren have a bright future ahead of them.

1015
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Speaker 16: And this is how we won't get into the specifics,

1016
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:56,839
Speaker 16: but those are the kind of messages that they're going

1017
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 16: to need to hear. And quite frankly, that's the danger

1018
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Speaker 16: the DNC runs here, is that if they are appealing

1019
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 16: to other folks on the coasts and not these people

1020
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Speaker 16: in the middle.

1021
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Speaker 3: Well, so it's a battle for a rural between Tim

1022
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Speaker 3: Walls and JD. Vance. How does Tim Walls win that

1023
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Speaker 3: argument without becoming too folksy and too cute?

1024
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Speaker 15: And I don't think he does win that argument. I mean,

1025
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Speaker 15: I think there's been a realignment. You know, Donald Trump

1026
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 15: won two hundred and fifty six counties that Barack Obama

1027
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 15: won twice and Joe Biden in twenty twenty only won

1028
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,800
Speaker 15: a dozen of those back those are gone, Those are Republicans.

1029
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,919
Speaker 15: Now they're going to vote Republican. It's a much better

1030
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 15: use of the Democrats time if you boil it down

1031
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:39,240
Speaker 15: to run up the numbers in suburbs and urban areas

1032
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Speaker 15: to offset the losses are going to take in those counties. Look,

1033
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 15: they're not talking about the economy. That's what these people

1034
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 15: care about. They haven't benefited from the increased economy and

1035
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 15: the Biden administration, and they say so loudly in every

1036
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 15: focus group and every poll that we take. Donald Trump

1037
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 15: continues to outpace both Joe Biden and Kamala Harris when

1038
00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 15: it comes to who's best able to manage the economy.

1039
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:01,480
Speaker 15: So I think they've got to go where they can

1040
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 15: find votes, and it's not going to be in the

1041
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:03,720
Speaker 15: rural community.

1042
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Speaker 4: Just on the idea that those people are now Republicans.

1043
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 4: Are they Republicans or are they populous? Because isn't that

1044
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 4: the common thread that you could pull between those who

1045
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 4: would vote for Obama in eight and twenty twelve and

1046
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:17,320
Speaker 4: who shifted to vote for Donald Trump.

1047
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 15: Well, there's a third group, and I'd call them magas.

1048
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 15: And so that's some combination of those two things, right,

1049
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 15: and yet they're signed up. I mean, that's what you

1050
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,439
Speaker 15: saw on the floor of the convention in Milwaukee for

1051
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 15: Donald Trump. These are the people who fuel the MAGA.

1052
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:33,799
Speaker 15: And everyone said, oh, where are the votes coming from?

1053
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 15: Former Democrats? You know, who used to be working class

1054
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 15: whites in rural areas without college education are now the

1055
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Speaker 15: base of the Republican Party.

1056
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Speaker 3: And this is why we saw the roll call that

1057
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Speaker 3: we saw last night. Right, if you're trying to get

1058
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 3: young people in the suburbs and in urban areas, you

1059
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 3: put a show like that together. We would not have

1060
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Speaker 3: seen that in Milwaukee.

1061
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Speaker 16: We would not have And you know, it was like

1062
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 16: the super Bowl of politics. I heard from so many

1063
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 16: people again who said, we don't watch this stuff, but

1064
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,720
Speaker 16: that was fun and so but but I do agree

1065
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 16: with Rick that, you know, they may have lost those

1066
00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 16: rural areas already, but they can't bleed them anymore. When

1067
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 16: you're talking about states like Wisconsin and Michigan, and they're

1068
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 16: going to be so tight. And that was one thing

1069
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,600
Speaker 16: we heard from Michelle Obama yesterday. They've got a fight

1070
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 16: for those and watch for this notion of economic opportunity,

1071
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:29,520
Speaker 16: opportunity economy from Kamala Harrison Tom Waltz, because that is

1072
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 16: the message they are trying to send. It's not going

1073
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 16: to be a winning message in those areas necessarily, but

1074
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Speaker 16: they want to stop bleeding there as they have been

1075
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Speaker 16: Democrats have been for some time now.

1076
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Speaker 4: Well as we allude to this role call, we should

1077
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 4: actually give our listeners and viewers a taste of what

1078
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,239
Speaker 4: it was like in the United Center last night.

1079
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Speaker 13: Wow, white state of Alabama probably have fifty six months.

1080
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Speaker 5: For the fourth what woman president.

1081
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Speaker 12: How Coroado proudly he cast hits votes for Kamala Harris getting.

1082
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 8: Out Indiana delivered this eighty six delegates.

1083
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:10,040
Speaker 12: Minisoda, we cast ten presents and we.

1084
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 5: Delivered eighty one vot for KAMLAA. Harris.

1085
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Speaker 17: Le California, we probably passed our four hundred and eighty

1086
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Speaker 17: two votes for the next president, Pabla Harris. Ladies and gentlemen,

1087
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 17: we are need today.

1088
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Speaker 5: Turn out the what.

1089
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:47,320
Speaker 4: That has been perpetually in my head on repeat since

1090
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 4: last night, I mean that kind of energy breaker. Republicans

1091
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:53,879
Speaker 4: now looking back on their convention in Milwaukee, thinking day.

1092
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 6: Oh, I don't think we could have pulled that off.

1093
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:00,839
Speaker 15: You know, in conventions, you manage things and you say, oh,

1094
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 15: this roll call is such a pain. Nobody's interested, nobody

1095
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,240
Speaker 15: watches it. I cannot tell you how many phone calls

1096
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 15: and texts I've gotten today about how why didn't we

1097
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 15: ever think of doing something fun like that in our

1098
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,400
Speaker 15: role call? It was a blast highlight of the convention

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Speaker 15: as far as I'm concerned.

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Speaker 3: Wow, that's something. I mean, you had kid Rock, right,

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Speaker 3: I guess that would be the equivalent in milwall Well

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Speaker 3: John Well John though, so he actually rebuffed and asked

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Speaker 3: for an endorsement by Donald Trump's You had to call

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Speaker 3: him to come to Chicago.

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Speaker 5: You had to call him.

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Speaker 16: He was on Celebrity Apprentice and come on, you know

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Speaker 16: that is the kind of thing that you can just

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Speaker 16: imagine has frustrated.

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Speaker 3: Is that the end of this whole narrative that young

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Speaker 3: black men are drifting toward Donald Trump? Is that now

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Speaker 3: something in the past.

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Speaker 16: I don't think so. I don't think it's the end.

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Speaker 16: I don't think you're going to do as well as

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Speaker 16: he wanted. But I do think Republicans have a argument

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Speaker 16: there when it comes to the economy. But they've just

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Speaker 16: got to talk about it. But Donald Trump wants to

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Speaker 16: talk about other things like Taylor Swift and AI so

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Speaker 16: you know, it's hard to keep him on. But little

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Speaker 16: down last night that was a coup and the DJ

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Speaker 16: DJ Wayne is that it.

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Speaker 5: He was amazing.

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Speaker 3: DJ Castiles.

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Speaker 6: Yes, I did have to look.

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Speaker 5: Okay, well, there you go.

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Speaker 4: As I think about finally what we're hearing from Donald Trump,

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Speaker 4: He's going to be in North Carolina.

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Speaker 5: He's there today with jd Vance talking.

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Speaker 4: Specifically, they say about the issue of national security, though

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Speaker 4: if we've learned our lesson from previous experiences, we may

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Speaker 4: drift into other subject matter as well. But how should

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Speaker 4: we think about his time spent in North Carolina now

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Speaker 4: that we are seeing pulling, actually shifting in that swing

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Speaker 4: state sabbatas Crystal Ball moved it from leansar to toss

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Speaker 4: up yesterday.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, I mean we started this campaign saying there are

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Speaker 15: going to be seven key states that would decide this election,

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Speaker 15: probably a dozen counties in each one, and we're right

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Speaker 15: back to where we started and by the way, same

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Speaker 15: ones from twenty twenty. I mean, this reset of this

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Speaker 15: election is looking eerly like twenty twenty, and in all states,

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Speaker 15: not just North Carolina. But I would point out too,

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Speaker 15: this is the first major rally outdoors that Donald Trump's done,

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Speaker 15: so he got shot and so you know, there's a

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Speaker 15: little more mystique around this. And secondarily, he's been on

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Speaker 15: message for a whole week now. I mean, he's really

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Speaker 15: kind of taken the talking points that his campaign's given

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Speaker 15: him to contrast nicely with the convention. Even went out

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Speaker 15: of his way to say nice things about Barack Obama

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Speaker 15: last night or yes, afternoon before the show. So there's

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Speaker 15: something going on in the Trump campaign, and I think

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Speaker 15: today is a very important turning point to see how

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Speaker 15: his crowd is and how he handles it. He'll be

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Speaker 15: in a bulletproof box on that stage, and a performer

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Speaker 15: like Donald Trump that could really have a salutary effect

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Speaker 15: on his ability to turn that crowd.

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Speaker 3: A really good point, Kelly. We had seen reports earlier,

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Speaker 3: and now we know for a fact that Secret Service

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Speaker 3: has positioned ballistic glass around the country so they can

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Speaker 3: have him protected on three sides, which does make the

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Speaker 3: speech much more of a challenge.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I wonder how he will allude to the

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Speaker 4: attempted assassination that we saw on the eve of the

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Speaker 4: Republican can mention as he counter programs, this democratic one

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Speaker 4: signature political panel, Rick Davis and Genie Shanzano.

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Speaker 5: Thank you both.

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