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Speaker 1: This is straight Fire with Jason McIntire.

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Speaker 2: What is up straight Fire, fam, It's me Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 2: Straight for Monday, June, the thirtieth June is over, ladies

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Speaker 2: and gentlemen.

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Speaker 3: July begins, manyana very excited. You know what that means.

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Speaker 2: Free agency in the NBA. Obviously, if Jiannis gets traded,

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Speaker 2: we will for sure have an emergency podcast, There's no

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Speaker 2: doubt about that. But around the holiday we will take

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Speaker 2: a few days off here coming up, but we figured

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Speaker 2: we'd just give you a heads up on that as

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Speaker 2: we head into the month of July.

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Speaker 3: Really the dog days of sun Star game.

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Speaker 2: You know, hopefully Caitlyn Clark returned soon because you know,

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Speaker 2: I mean, WNBA really needs Caitlin Clark. And then you

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Speaker 2: got hopefully NBA mooves no NFL still for a good month.

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Speaker 3: Obviously.

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Speaker 2: You know this is a this is a job where

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Speaker 2: interesting stuff happens. And Lebron James front and center Sunday morning,

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Speaker 2: decided to opt in to his contract. He will make

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Speaker 2: fifty two mills something or other, a lot of money. Now,

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Speaker 2: I was trying to be off the line as much

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Speaker 2: as possible over the weekend, but when I did dig

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Speaker 2: into it. You know, the usual suspect. Why didn't Lebron

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Speaker 2: take a pay cut? Why didn't Lebron.

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Speaker 3: Take lots of money to get cut?

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Speaker 2: Guys, Lebron was averaging like twenty five, seven and seven

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Speaker 2: this calendar year. He's he ain't taken a pay cut.

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Speaker 2: I mean he's I know, he's I know, you guys

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Speaker 2: don want to believe it. He's still a top fifteen

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Speaker 2: player in the league. Sorry, that's just the reality. And

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Speaker 2: this idea that Lebron should take lesson is just goofy.

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Speaker 2: Now where it does get interesting is this speculation, will

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Speaker 2: maybe he gets traded? I personally find that to be

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Speaker 2: total nonsense. I cannot imagine a world where Lebron demands

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Speaker 2: a trade at this age. I cannot imagine Lebron going

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Speaker 2: anywhere other than the East where.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna have a better chance than when he go

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Speaker 3: back to Cleveland. For what is this?

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Speaker 2: This will be part three in Cleveland, a third tour

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Speaker 2: I don't particularly know where he else he could go?

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Speaker 2: Could he go to the Knicks at the stage, But

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Speaker 2: what are you giving up youth for an old guy?

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Speaker 2: It's just it feels so difficult to trade Lebron that

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Speaker 2: I'm of the belief he's.

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Speaker 3: Not going anywhere.

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Speaker 2: And then everybody's like, well, the Lakers can't build a contender,

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Speaker 2: and I totally disagree with that because they were third

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Speaker 2: in the West, and I'm gonna keep saying that till

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Speaker 2: I'm blue in the face, because that's the reality. They

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Speaker 2: were third in the West behind Houston, which got a

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Speaker 2: lot better, and okay, see, which won the title. And

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Speaker 2: we've seen the last few champions whether it is Denver

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Speaker 2: or Boston, as soon as if you win the championship,

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Speaker 2: there is a step back. You know, you're not as

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Speaker 2: hungry as you were. That's just nature of the beast.

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Speaker 2: And then teams lose guys. Now, okay, see, ain't losing

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Speaker 2: anybody though Boston didn't lose anyone, at least nobody that

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Speaker 2: I can think of. Denver did lose a couple of

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Speaker 2: role players off the bench, and that impacted things. But

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Speaker 2: I think they blew a twenty point lead against Minnesota

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Speaker 2: in the second round Game seven at home.

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Speaker 3: Very wacky.

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Speaker 2: So this idea that okayc's gonna repeat, let's just pump

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Speaker 2: the brake skys Okay, they needed seven to dispatch Denver,

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Speaker 2: seven to dispatch Oka, Indiana, And.

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Speaker 3: Don't make me go into all the injuries.

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Speaker 2: Like if Haliburton doesn't go down in Game seven, guy

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Speaker 3: He was cookie.

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Speaker 2: So this idea that Lebron and the Lakers can't want

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Speaker 2: a chip is goofy. But Rob piqued my interest. So

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Speaker 2: and he's like, well, the Lakers could trade Lebron, And

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Speaker 2: to me, that's kind of sort of interesting. So I

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Speaker 2: personally think there's like a zero percent chance. Now you

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Speaker 2: can never want to say zero, but Rob seems to

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Speaker 2: think Lebron could be a former Laker, So I'll let

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Speaker 2: Rob take it away.

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Speaker 4: Well, first off, let me just say that I agree

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Speaker 4: at ESPN on Sunday morning, we're more about leverage than

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Speaker 4: anything else. I think Lebron is doing what he always does.

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Speaker 4: It's his annual apply pressure to whatever team I'm working

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Speaker 4: with to ensure that they cash in all their chips

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Speaker 4: to give me the best chance of winning. Right like that,

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Speaker 4: Lebron is very selfish in that regard. Not even blame him,

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Speaker 4: right because you know, it's his career. He can do

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Speaker 4: whatever he wants. But here's the quote to anybody who

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Speaker 4: compete for a championship. He knows the Lakers are building

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Speaker 4: for the future. He understands that, but he values a

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Speaker 4: realistic chance of winning it all. We are very appreciative

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Speaker 4: of the partnership we've had eight years with Genie buzz

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Speaker 4: Rop Polinka and consider the Lakers as a critical part

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Speaker 4: of his career. We understand the difficulty in winning. Now

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Speaker 4: we're preparing for the future. We do want to evaluate

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Speaker 4: what's best for Lebron at this stage in his life

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Speaker 4: and career. Like every season he has left count.

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Speaker 2: It's just like the two timelines thing that the Warriors

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Speaker 3: And the Lakers don't have young studs.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, they got Luka Dacic and and he's

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Speaker 4: re rid him in those prime. Austin Reeves just entering

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Speaker 4: his prime, So I guess you can count those guys

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Speaker 4: as quote unquote young studs. So, first off, if Lebron

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Speaker 4: was that serious that gung ho, like, Hey, I only

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Speaker 4: want to win a championship. This is all I care about.

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Speaker 4: This is the only reason I'm playing. Then he would

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Speaker 4: have taken a pay cut, right like that, that's first

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Speaker 4: then again, that'd make him look at hypocrite because he

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Speaker 4: just said a week and a half ago on his

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Speaker 4: about that doesn't really know ball and they don't really

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Speaker 4: understand what we go through his players, Like, that's a

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Speaker 4: different conversation, right, So if that's really what he was

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Speaker 4: talking about, he would have taken a pay cut, stay

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Speaker 4: with the Lakers, had all kinds of flexibility to add

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Speaker 4: not have to be like the idea you just mentioned it.

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Speaker 4: They were the three seed with Luka Doncic, who for

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Speaker 4: only had him for half the season, and half of

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Speaker 4: you were the three seed. You were heavily favored to

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Speaker 4: beat Minnesota in a round one, and I believe you

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Speaker 4: were the second or third favorite to come out of

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Speaker 4: the Western Conference. Let's not forget I'm not blaming Lebron

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Speaker 4: for what happened. It's Minnesota, but let's not forget that

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Speaker 4: in a very critical game four on the road, all

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Speaker 4: Lebron has to do is inbound the ball to Luka Dacic,

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Speaker 4: He gets fouled, They hit a couple of free throws.

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Speaker 4: The Lakers come back to La to too. What does

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Speaker 4: he do? Throws it damn near to half court, steal foul.

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Speaker 4: The rest is history. Lakers, I'm losing that game. But no,

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Speaker 4: we can't point that out because that would go against

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Speaker 4: the narrative for the.

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Speaker 3: Oh are you really a Lakers fan?

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Speaker 4: I love the Lakers. I love the Lakers, and that's

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Speaker 4: why this is so frustrating because it's like, I don't

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Speaker 4: know if it's because I'm used to the Lakers always

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Speaker 4: who's like, hey, if you get me one more guy,

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Speaker 4: we're in the mix no matter what. Pau Gasol at

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Speaker 4: the time the Lakers got him had been swept out

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Speaker 4: of the playoffs every year of his career. But he

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Speaker 4: gets to the Lakers and suddenly he's the best number

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Speaker 4: two options because Kobe and the system and Phil Jackson

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Speaker 4: a lot of other factors helped elevate him to a

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Speaker 4: I don't need elevatingybody. I just need whoever is at DA.

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Speaker 4: I need him. I need Russell Westbrook. I need to

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Speaker 4: get Luka Doncic, and that's still not enough, and he's

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Speaker 4: still like, well, you know, you're not really doing enough

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Speaker 4: or like ninety percent of what they've done since twenty

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Speaker 4: you got to wear some of it. As to why

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Speaker 4: this hasn't worked out. You got to say, hey, maybe

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Speaker 4: my style of everything revolving around Lebron James doesn't necessarily

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Speaker 2: That's just don't you think they're thinking like, hey, it's

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Speaker 4: Luca exactly, And you would think at this stage of

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Speaker 4: I can commit myself the defense a little bit more.

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Speaker 4: I can commit myself to being like a rebounder a

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Speaker 3: And instead, this is.

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Speaker 4: The point number three, He floats out again. I think

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Speaker 4: it's supply of pressure, but to kind of leave the

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Speaker 4: willing to play elsewhere because the Lakers are not on

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Speaker 4: your timeline anymore and all I want to do is win.

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Speaker 4: To me, sounds like did you see what's going on

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Speaker 4: in the Eastern Commas right now? Boston's falling apart. Not

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Speaker 4: only did they lose Tatum, they're giving away their entire

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Speaker 4: starting lineup in trades, Tyre's Halliburn's out for the season.

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Speaker 4: The Knicks don't have a coach, Like shit, I could

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Speaker 4: roll over there right now, go back to Cleveland, Me Donovan, Mitchell,

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Speaker 4: Nevin Hope, like we could totally win the East, and

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Speaker 4: then once we get to the finals, we're gonna have

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Speaker 4: an undersized you know, relatives to Lebron. It undersized the

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Speaker 4: Oklahoma City team went our way? Why not us?

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 4: And it's just like, if you really want out, and

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Speaker 4: and I don't blame if he does, but if you

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Speaker 4: really want out, then say less, like I'm ready to

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Speaker 4: move on from Lebron James if that's what he wants.

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Speaker 2: So my guess is Lebron looked at the rest. So

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Speaker 2: Dorian Finney Smith obviously is a big name that they

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Speaker 2: got to keep. But Rob after next season, the Lakers

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Speaker 2: will have a shit ton of cap space. Ruiy Hachi

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Speaker 2: Mora entering the final year of his deal, Gabe Vincent

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Speaker 2: final year, Maxi kleeber final year.

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Speaker 3: So essentially, the Lakers are starting to plan.

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Speaker 2: Hey, what's forget this year? What are we going to

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Speaker 2: look like next summer? Who can we go after? So

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Speaker 3: I would like to see this Lakers team fully formed.

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Speaker 2: Give me a percentage chance you think that uh Lebron

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Speaker 4: Oh, well, you got a factor in whether or not

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Speaker 2: So someone floated this this Calves trade. Since you seem

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Speaker 2: hot on this Calve Zodi idea, somebody floated this Calves deal.

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Speaker 2: What if the Lakers traded Lebron and Bronny in exchange

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Speaker 2: match up a little bit, is like a good three

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Speaker 4: Right now? In an ideal world, if you're the Lakers,

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Speaker 4: Evan Mobley straight up? And ain't doing that? I know

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Speaker 4: the Cluvie wouldn't do that, but then also Lebron would

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Speaker 4: be like, hell no, if I'm getting traded to Cleveland's

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Speaker 4: because I wanted to play with Evan Mobley. I want

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Speaker 4: to play with him and Donovan Mitchell. So then it's like, okay,

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Speaker 4: well the trade you mentioned works. Another one that's, you know,

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Speaker 3: James Jerry's Garland needs the ball.

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Speaker 4: I got Luca, not way just for an All star

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Speaker 3: All Right, hold on, hold on, let's let's parse that out.

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Speaker 2: So your back court is Luca and Garland. You've got

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Speaker 2: what Reeves at the three?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well one of them comes off the bench, or

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Speaker 4: maybe you flip Reeves or Garland whatever it is is.

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Speaker 2: Wait wait and Jared Allen and Ruey. Yeah, I don't

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Speaker 3: Dallas Part two? I know we got to the finals,

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Speaker 4: That's that's it, because again you got to think what

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Speaker 4: play anywhere, but with the Lakers, and they had deals

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Speaker 4: up vetoed like they had a deal in place to

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Speaker 4: send him to Chicago and they were gonna get a lou.

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Speaker 4: He was like, nah, Lou, all dang has got to

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Speaker 4: he was like, no, I need Tayshon Prince, like you,

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Speaker 4: we're not gonna do this deal if Tan's in the deal,

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Speaker 4: and it ultimately everything fell apart and nothing ever materialized.

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Speaker 4: So Lebron is in the same kind of boat where

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Speaker 4: he'd be like, you're not gonna include Mitchell, You're not

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Speaker 4: going to include Mobile, everybody else and Kick Rocks. And

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Speaker 4: if that's the case, then that only leaves a couple

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Speaker 4: of guys with the right amount of money, whether it's

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Speaker 4: some combination of Garland Hunter Allen. You know, I guess

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Speaker 4: if you want to include Strews, sure, but like that's

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Speaker 3: So how about this one.

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Speaker 2: This again, Reddit is just popping off right now with

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Speaker 2: Lebron trade ideas.

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Speaker 3: So there's a three team.

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Speaker 2: Of rob let me know what you think. I'm ready

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Speaker 2: Lebron to the paper clip. He gets to stay in

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Speaker 2: La with his family. Okay, the Lakers get Norman Powell, Bogdanovich,

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Speaker 2: get Dalton connect to first round picks, and I think

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Speaker 2: a trade exception or something like that to make the

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Speaker 2: finances work. But basically, the Lakers would get their big center,

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Speaker 2: their room protector in Walker Kessler, who would be their

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Speaker 2: livelier Gafford around Luca. Derek Jones Junior work great with Luca,

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Speaker 2: Norman Powell, I guess Bogdanovich one of those two comes

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Speaker 2: off the bench. I don't know how you feeling about that.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's not terrible. Is that not ideal? But

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Speaker 4: you know, like that's kind of the position you're in.

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Speaker 4: When you're trading away a guy who would have a

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Speaker 4: no trades call, You're not going to get the full bounty,

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Speaker 4: just similar to wrapping with Kevin Durant.

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Speaker 3: And that's why you don't try. I would just rather

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Speaker 3: have Lebron And you know.

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Speaker 4: I mean, if he wants to be here, sure, but

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Speaker 4: if he doesn't, then, like and if he doesn't, doesn't

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Speaker 4: that lead to a bigger conversation about what he's really

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Speaker 4: motivated by? Because, like you, if you don't think having

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Speaker 4: Luka Dancich on your team is enough for you to

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Speaker 4: at least be competitive, I think you're the favorites, but

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Speaker 4: to at least be competitive. And you're saying that's not

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Speaker 4: enough for me, Like, do you even want to compete

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Speaker 4: or do you just want to have the prohibitive favorite

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Speaker 4: every year? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I think you want to be the favorite all the time.

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Speaker 2: You always want to be leveling up and getting better

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Speaker 2: and trying to acquire more assets like this idea, Again,

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Speaker 2: Lebron's probably close to a billionaire.

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Speaker 3: Is he officially a billionaire.

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Speaker 4: Yet or no cordon to Forbes?

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Speaker 1: He is? He is?

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Speaker 3: Okay, so he's a billionaire.

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Speaker 2: And you could be like, well, why wouldn't he just,

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Speaker 2: you know, tear up his deal and do a one year,

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Speaker 2: ten million dollar cot. Well, the NBAPA would hate him

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Speaker 2: right everywhere, it would. You can't do that. That's just

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Speaker 2: not realistic. And by the way, if you're listening to

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Speaker 2: this and you're like, Lebron should just take five million, okay, whatever.

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Speaker 3: Your salary is, you go to your ball.

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Speaker 2: And say, hey, let's go hire this guy for accounting.

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Speaker 2: I'll work for eight dollars an hour. Okay, you tell

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Speaker 2: me how that sounds right, This idea of Lebron taking

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Speaker 2: let's just not happening.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: If you could sell them on, hey, if you take this,

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Speaker 2: we have this trade ready to go.

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Speaker 3: Maybe that changes the equation.

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Speaker 1: Rob.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, because there is the question like, hey,

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Speaker 2: some of these teams, you know, they're just like, oh,

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Speaker 2: we want to avoid the second Apron, the luxury tacks

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Speaker 2: and the Lebron.

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Speaker 3: That does nothing for Lebron.

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Speaker 2: The only selling point that I like from you, Rob,

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Speaker 2: is this whole East Coast, the Eastern Conference thing, yep,

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Speaker 2: But there's some teams he could go to and instantly

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Speaker 2: it's like, Okay, this team could get to the finals,

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Speaker 2: but I keep coming back to the Lakers with a

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Speaker 2: three seed. Like you said with I don't want to

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Speaker 2: call him fat Luca, that's disrespectful.

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Speaker 3: But like you know, this whole Yannis situation.

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Speaker 2: Like they're not winning anything with Damian Lillard at gone, right, I.

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Speaker 3: Mean, who's your second best player?

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Speaker 4: Bobby Portis Hey, shout out to Bobby Portie. Just got

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Speaker 3: By the way, Oh did he what do he got?

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Speaker 3: Didn't see that.

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Speaker 4: I think he got something like three for thirty six

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Speaker 3: We're moving on from brook Lopez.

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Speaker 4: It definitely feels that way. Yeah, I don't know three

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Speaker 4: for forty four was number. Well, okay, we staying in

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Speaker 4: the Eastern Conference again. We anticipate a guy like Lebron.

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Speaker 4: He's not gonna say yes to Hawk's, Celtics, Nets, Bulls, Hornets.

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Speaker 4: I don't think he would go to the Pistons, Pacers.

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Speaker 4: I don't think he go to Indiana. I would think

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Speaker 4: Pat Riley don't like each other, so maybe that's not

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Speaker 4: going to be an option. No, I don't think he'd

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Speaker 4: And you know, I obviously I don't think he's going

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Speaker 4: Bridges Hard and Robinson. Like, there are ways you could

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Speaker 4: do it so that the Knicks would still be list

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Speaker 4: like Cleveland would still be prohibitive favorites. With Lebron James

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Speaker 4: in tow that would at least give the Lakers some

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Speaker 4: kind of I know, we didn't get one hundred cient dollars,

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Speaker 4: but we got seventy five eighty like, and we got

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Speaker 4: and we can build moving forward.

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Speaker 3: It just seems so unlikely.

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Speaker 2: I mean again, if you're if the Knicks are giving

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Speaker 2: up two starters for Lebron, who are they giving up

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Speaker 2: Bridges and Ananobe?

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Speaker 4: I don't I mean the Anonobe and Robinson in one

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Speaker 4: or another one be Bridges.

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Speaker 3: Heart and Robinson, Josh Hart's second tour of duty.

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Speaker 4: That's right, baby, former Laker Laker.

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Speaker 2: I just they're too small. They need a I mean

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Speaker 2: Bridges in Austin, Reeves are similar players. No, I mean

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Speaker 2: bridges more defense, reeves, more creation. Yeah, I'm of the

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Speaker 2: belief the Lakers just need to tweak around the edges

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Speaker 2: rob I don't think they need a full scale Oh

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Speaker 2: my gosh, we got to do this.

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Speaker 3: I agree with you.

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Speaker 4: But obviously Lebron doesn't feel that way, or else he

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Speaker 4: wouldn't be putting.

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Speaker 2: On less unless he's just saying this right to like, hey, guys,

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Speaker 2: keep your foot on the gas. I mean, listen, James Harden,

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Speaker 2: what did he sign? He signed a two year ago.

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Speaker 2: He's making about forty forty. He's still very, very good.

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Speaker 2: Do you think there's a world where Kawhi gets traded?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 2: I floated this on the herd and the salaries actually

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Speaker 2: match up. What if the Celtics say, you know, we're

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Speaker 2: not going to be able to pay Jalen and Tatum

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Speaker 2: going forward, so why don't we just move off Brown?

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Speaker 3: We can't trade Tatum.

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Speaker 2: Is there a world where they say, hey, Clippers, you

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Speaker 2: only have Kawhi for two more years. Let me double check,

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Speaker 2: but I think it's two years. We'll take Kawhi, you

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Speaker 2: take Jaylen Brown. Yeah, Kawhi has fifty this year, fifty

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Speaker 2: next year, and Jalen Brown is younger and has like

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Speaker 2: a long runway.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be making a lot of money.

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Speaker 2: The Clippers can then build around Jalen Brown, who by

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Speaker 2: the way, went to cal was working out at my

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Speaker 2: gym leading up to the draft. Jerry West was there.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't able to get in the gym, but I

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Speaker 2: was outside the window. What you build around Jalen Brown?

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Speaker 2: And the Celtics say, you know what, we we're gonna

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Speaker 2: be able to pump this year. Have Kawhi carry us,

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Speaker 2: not pump this year, but you know what I mean,

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Speaker 2: have Kawhi carry.

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Speaker 4: They're basically already punting on this year, so.

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Speaker 2: Kinda and oh yeah, two years from now we get

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Speaker 2: Kawhi for fifty and Tatum and then he's off the

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Speaker 2: books and we could just reload.

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Speaker 3: Is that just too crazy?

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Speaker 4: That's not the worst idea. I mean, I don't think that.

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Speaker 3: Who would Who says no to that?

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Speaker 4: Probably Boston.

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Speaker 3: Just because so how does Boston?

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Speaker 2: Okay, So let's look at the Boston salaries again, hoops

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Speaker 2: high salaries. So not this season, but twenty six, twenty seven,

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Speaker 2: Tatum fifty eight, Brown fifty seven, then sixty two and

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Speaker 2: sixty one, then sixty seven and sixty four mil.

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Speaker 3: Like that's unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't see how you build a team and

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Speaker 2: then you know at some point they're gonna have to

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Speaker 2: move off Derek White, like.

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Speaker 3: I think I think Brown is.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it happens this year, but that

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Speaker 2: would suck to ride Brown all this year and then

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Speaker 2: trade him when he's at the after he carried the

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Speaker 2: team season.

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Speaker 4: So he carries him to like a five seed in

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Speaker 4: the East, and they're feeling good about themselves and like,

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Speaker 4: by the way, you're getting traded to Charlotte, like.

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Speaker 2: The Halliburton thing is really that's just so unfortunate for

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Speaker 2: Indie man. They could have made three straight finals. Because

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Speaker 2: now you've got Siakam basically punt wasting a year and

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Speaker 2: he's getting up there in age. You can't imagine Lebron

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Speaker 2: going to like Detroit, could you?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 4: Like I said at the outset, I think there are

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Speaker 4: only three real I mean a guess unless you want

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Speaker 4: to count Dallas just because they Kyrie and ad are

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Speaker 4: both there. But I just don't know how you would

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Speaker 4: make the money work for that kind of thing. No,

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Speaker 4: it's play with Steph, which he's always wanted to do,

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Speaker 4: or go to the East where it's a you know,

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Speaker 4: bombed out and depleted and I have a freeway to

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Speaker 4: the Eastern Conference finals at a minimum no matter where

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Speaker 4: I go. But if I go to either Cleveland or

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Speaker 4: New York, it's me and at least two other star

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Speaker 4: players that I feel can have a really good chance

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Speaker 4: of winning a championship.

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Speaker 2: So what if, again, Detroit's in a weird spot. I'm

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Speaker 2: sure you saw the Malik Beasley news. He's under investigation

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Speaker 2: for gambler. Dude, there's a video circulating where he's not

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Speaker 2: playing any defense at all. I do I find it

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Speaker 2: hard to believe in a contract hear someone will be

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Speaker 2: that dumb.

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Speaker 3: But I mean he also shot like four. Didn't he

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Speaker 3: lead the league in three point percent?

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Speaker 4: Yeares well, you know there was a video. The most

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Speaker 4: damning one is actually they're down by nine with five

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Speaker 4: seconds left. They end bound the ball to Hi. Everyone's

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Speaker 4: walking around. He sprints down the floor and dunks it.

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Speaker 4: They lose by seven and the number was eight and

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Speaker 4: a half.

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Speaker 2: Not great, but again, like that shows to me, Hey,

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Speaker 2: that guy doesn't quit playing. So how about this Lebron

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Speaker 2: to Detroit for Tobias Harris Ansar Thompson. Oh man, that's

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Speaker 2: even tough to build. Detroit's paying nobody exactly. Tobias Harris

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Speaker 2: is an expiring I don't think you want Isaiah Stewart.

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Speaker 2: He's like a major, major problem. Did he fight with

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Speaker 2: Lebron last year a couple of years ago, yeah, Jaden Ivy,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Detroit seems like a little bit away now.

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Speaker 2: Atlanta is really spicy by the way that trade they

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Speaker 2: made where they get the unprotected best pick from New

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Speaker 2: Orleans or Milwaukee, Yeah, that is a major lottery ticket.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Do you want Trey Young for Lebron?

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Speaker 2: Not an ideal world, But how could you pair Trey

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Speaker 2: and Luca, how long are you?

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Speaker 4: It would be terrible. You'd probably just get Trey Youngster.

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Speaker 4: You have the asset at that point, you know, so

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Speaker 4: you don't lose on for nothing.

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Speaker 2: He's yeah, he's got a player option after next year.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how that's gonna work. Yeah, it seems

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Speaker 2: like they're gonna build around Jalen Johnson reesa che you know,

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Speaker 2: Dyson Daniel's good defender.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but if you say, hey, give me Jalen Johnson

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Speaker 4: and what uh oh Kongwo, I'd be like, hell.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I like Okongwu. He's good.

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Speaker 4: But you know who's to say that Atlanta would do

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Speaker 4: that because Jalen Johnson I think is going to be

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Speaker 4: a stud.

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Speaker 2: Yeah no, no, he's very He got a major injury,

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Speaker 2: but uh, it seems like he's gonna be okay. Uh

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Speaker 2: Rob it sounds like I don't know if this is

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Speaker 2: one hundred percent accurate, But did they close w NBA

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Speaker 2: All Star voting.

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure they may have, but I do know

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Speaker 4: that Kaylan Clark was already at over one point two million.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so according to uh, you know, there's all these

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Speaker 2: Instagram accounts and Twitter accounts attributed just basically following around

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Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark. They said she received one point two to

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Speaker 2: nine million All Star votes this year. In twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 2: the year before she got to the league, the top

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Speaker 2: thirty vote getters top thirty in the league had one

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Speaker 2: point one seven.

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Speaker 3: That's unbelieved. I mean, I know that you guys are

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Speaker 3: sick of some Caitlin Clark stuff.

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Speaker 2: Although I did get some really nice notes about the

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Speaker 2: pod with Christine Brennan. You guys seem to like that. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: when Clark is back and we need her, uh, it's

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be big.

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Speaker 3: But I guess we can wrap up obviously.

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Speaker 2: USA Costa Rica was a thrilling match, went to penalty

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Speaker 2: kicks rob in the Gold Cup.

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Speaker 3: USA prevailed.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, big sweat. Listen, we don't have our

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Speaker 2: best guys there, which you know hurts, but still you

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Speaker 2: got to be able to be Costa Rica even without

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Speaker 2: your horses. Penalty kicks in the Gold Cup it just

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Speaker 2: goes right from regulation to pks.

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Speaker 3: There's no overtime.

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Speaker 2: Penalty kicks is so stressful but also so exciting. All right,

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Speaker 2: that's it for today. We're trying to get one of

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Speaker 2: my favorite interviews. We're trying to get him for tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Don't know yet if it's a lock. We will be

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Speaker 2: back tomorrow though. Either way, talk to you then,