WEBVTT - The Red Wave That Wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>Everything's dead. Wait no, sorry, um, it's it could happen

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<v Speaker 1>here a podcast about stuff falling apart and today about

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that things fell less apart than people were

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<v Speaker 1>worried they were going to fall apart, and in some

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<v Speaker 1>ways got might get better. So that's kind of that's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of nice. Sure. Yeah, on the whole, we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the mid terms today and on the whole okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel okay. Descripture. Yeah, it's the mid terms equivalent

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<v Speaker 1>of getting like an ounce of of of like mid

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<v Speaker 1>grade weed for like fifty bucks. But you find out

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<v Speaker 1>later that like kind of in the middle of it

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<v Speaker 1>was like half of a paper towel roll that they

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<v Speaker 1>stuck in there to push up the weight. But it's like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>least I got weed. All right, I've introduced the podcast

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<v Speaker 1>Who Do We? Who do we have here? Today? You

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<v Speaker 1>got me? I'm James Still, that's rightly? Yeah, yeah, I'm Garrison.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't vote. Look at you wow. Way to be

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<v Speaker 1>a way to be an anarchist Garrison or a Canadian

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<v Speaker 1>same deff democracy? Yeah yeah, I like committing voter fraud

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<v Speaker 1>for the Democratic Party. Yeah yeah. I also decided to

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<v Speaker 1>not vote for the people who are doing like the

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<v Speaker 1>war on drugs in California right now, Garrison, you you

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<v Speaker 1>continued your your years long tradition of submitting a crewed

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<v Speaker 1>drawing of the Premier of Canada. Um to to a

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<v Speaker 1>ballot box. Shut, let's Trudeau coming out of a cave.

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<v Speaker 1>Who else do we have on with us right now?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm here, Christopher Wong, and I absolutely despise elections, so

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<v Speaker 1>I brought my friend who actually does like elections. That's

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<v Speaker 1>excellent token election in Jodan pretty much. Yes, Hi, I

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<v Speaker 1>am Jack. I am Christopher's token friend, as mentioned um

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm here partly because of nepotism for knowing Christopher

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<v Speaker 1>and partly because, as you reminded me, before we got started,

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<v Speaker 1>I had a ninety three percent accurate prediction rating for

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<v Speaker 1>all of the elections that I was paying attention to

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<v Speaker 1>this year, so I know some things. Congratulations. I only

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<v Speaker 1>made one prediction before this election, which was, well, it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't feel like Dr Roz is gonna win, which which

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<v Speaker 1>means you did better than a lot of the people

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<v Speaker 1>who are paid to do this. Like, Okay, that man,

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<v Speaker 1>that man said the word crew detay in an election

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<v Speaker 1>in Pennsylvania, Like there was he was never good. The

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<v Speaker 1>moment that d came out, he was going to lose.

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<v Speaker 1>I see, that's much more nuanced than my my political analysis,

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<v Speaker 1>which was the fact that the other guy was much

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<v Speaker 1>taller than him and also way hot, Like if they

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<v Speaker 1>just sounded it with a fist fight, fat could have

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<v Speaker 1>taken it. Yep, which that seems good. H It was fun.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a fun election. We all had a good time.

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<v Speaker 1>I enjoy that. Fucking Marjorie Taylor Green and j d

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<v Speaker 1>Vance are going to be in Congress together. That's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be fun for everybody. We're all gonna have a

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<v Speaker 1>good time. But I suspect there's probably some stuff we

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<v Speaker 1>haven't like. As you may have noticed listeners, we didn't

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<v Speaker 1>do much in the way of pre mid term content

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<v Speaker 1>because we all hate it. But but now now we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about it. So what what what? What should we

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<v Speaker 1>know about these mid terms? What? What? What kind of

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<v Speaker 1>occurred to you as somebody who's like actually has spent

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more time delving into the nitty gritty and

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about what was likely to happen. Um. So I

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<v Speaker 1>told Christopher I would say this, and in arness, I

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<v Speaker 1>do genuinely believe it I think the story of these

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<v Speaker 1>mid terms when historians look back at it, will be

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<v Speaker 1>that the Dabbs Supreme Court decision had the same electoral

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<v Speaker 1>impact in the United States as nine eleven did. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that is going to be like how this plays

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<v Speaker 1>out over time, um, because when you look at how

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<v Speaker 1>things were going before Dabbs and then how things were

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<v Speaker 1>going after Dabbs. Obviously things got a lot worse on

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<v Speaker 1>the policy front because abortion became illegal in a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of states. Um. But the election essentially flipped overnight from

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<v Speaker 1>what was going to be a Republican wave to the

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<v Speaker 1>even split that we got. And that makes this one

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<v Speaker 1>of three post World War two midterms where the incumbent

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<v Speaker 1>party did well, and so this is definitely going to

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<v Speaker 1>be him in term that gets lectured about in policy

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<v Speaker 1>one on one courses for the next hundred years. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>one of those, one of those other three, was the

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<v Speaker 1>nine was to push that left. It was yeah, actually,

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<v Speaker 1>I really because obviously I was aware, just because there

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<v Speaker 1>was so much cover in saying like this is the

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<v Speaker 1>best performance from an incumbent party in a mid term

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<v Speaker 1>since two thousand two. So it was aware of that fact.

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<v Speaker 1>But for some reason I hadn't put it together in

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<v Speaker 1>my head that way that like, yeah, the this means that,

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<v Speaker 1>like the Supreme Court's decision on Roe v. Wade had

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a comparable electoral impact to flying two planes

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<v Speaker 1>into a pair of skyscrapers and the Pentagon three plates.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, to be fair whatever, to be fair, the

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<v Speaker 1>Supreme Court have killed like in terms of the immediate impact,

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<v Speaker 1>the Screme Court will have killed more people than that

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<v Speaker 1>by like thurs Day or something. So yeah, the other

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<v Speaker 1>one was was fdos fest made tim right? Uh No,

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<v Speaker 1>the other ones that so I said post World War Two.

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<v Speaker 1>The other the other one was when the American electorate

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<v Speaker 1>apparently got so mad at Republicans and pe team Bill

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<v Speaker 1>Clinton that they decided to vote for Democrats in a

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<v Speaker 1>good term. Again, well that's yeah, that's the other thing

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<v Speaker 1>Biden can do if it, if it goes south. It's

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<v Speaker 1>good to know their options. Yeah, but um, I think

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<v Speaker 1>non zero chance that'll happen anyway. I mean, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>we're still waiting. Who knows. Yeah, Doc Brandon, I enjoyed,

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<v Speaker 1>from from an entertainment perspective, the like three months of

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<v Speaker 1>lucidity that we got out of Joe Biden this year,

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see how many more he has in him. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>who knows? So yeah, like it. So you're you're suggesting

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<v Speaker 1>that Dobbs has been like the really pivotal thing here

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<v Speaker 1>in swinging a lot of these close races, right, absolutely, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and Dobbs definitely being the number one factor. Um. Tragically,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's very cringe and I wish this hadn't happened.

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<v Speaker 1>The January six investigation does actually seem to have also

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<v Speaker 1>swung several important races. That's I mean, I'm interested in

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<v Speaker 1>your thoughts on this, but I actually I'm I'm glad

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<v Speaker 1>that it mattered that they tried to do a coup,

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<v Speaker 1>and like I'm glad that people cared about that. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>glad it mattered. I just I just think it sucks

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<v Speaker 1>that because the way they went about the investigation was

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<v Speaker 1>so incredibly terrible. Yeah. Um, like Marrick Garland is going

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<v Speaker 1>to go down as like one of the most cowardly

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<v Speaker 1>attorney generals in American history. But um, yeah, It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty clear that in a lot of races like the

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<v Speaker 1>the investigation made a difference. I think this is really clear.

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<v Speaker 1>If we're getting into like very kind of under the hood. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats ran the table in competitive state level secretary of

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<v Speaker 1>State races, and these are the officials that run elections. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>And not only did Democrats run the table, pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>every single one of those candidates out pre formed the

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<v Speaker 1>top of the ticket. So they outperformed governor and Senate candidates. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>So there are a lot of people. This is another

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<v Speaker 1>big story the midterms is that swing voter. Your swing

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<v Speaker 1>voting is back, not swing voting, I'm sorry, split ticket

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<v Speaker 1>voting is back. Um. There were quite a few, there

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<v Speaker 1>were quite a few millions of voters this year who

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<v Speaker 1>voted for Republican in the Senate or a Republican for

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<v Speaker 1>governor and then a Democrat to run their states actual elections.

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<v Speaker 1>That's kind of good. It's so that's also like speaks

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<v Speaker 1>promisingly of people's engagement with the political system and education

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<v Speaker 1>about it and the awareness of what these different things do. Yes, um,

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<v Speaker 1>but other like like that, other than that, but just overall,

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<v Speaker 1>high level dobbs was the big one. Um. There is

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<v Speaker 1>a person whose name I'm going to unfortunately mispronounce, and

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<v Speaker 1>that I should have looked up beforehand. So all right,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a safe place for that, Thank you. But

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<v Speaker 1>there's a person there's a guy down in Louisiana named

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<v Speaker 1>John uh cool Van I think is my best guests,

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<v Speaker 1>and he is one of the people who makes money

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<v Speaker 1>off of like looking at elections UM, and his big

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<v Speaker 1>thing is that you can predict the outcome of elections

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<v Speaker 1>just by looking at the nationwide composition of the primary electorate.

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<v Speaker 1>So like, if Republicans turn out more voters in their

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<v Speaker 1>primaries and Democrats to Republicans are going to win the

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<v Speaker 1>election and vice versa. This has been true in pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much every single election for the last thirty years or

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<v Speaker 1>so UM, and he unfortunately got led astray UM this

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<v Speaker 1>year because nationwide at the end of the primary season,

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<v Speaker 1>Republicans were up by about like five points, and so

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<v Speaker 1>he was insisting the whole rest of the campaign that

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<v Speaker 1>Republicans are going to win. That's obviously not really what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you look at pre DBS versus post OBS,

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<v Speaker 1>the primary elector at post OBS was Democrats plus like

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<v Speaker 1>up by one point. That is the electorate that we

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<v Speaker 1>got in the mid terms. So Dobbs set the tone

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<v Speaker 1>of like what the mid terms were going to be UM,

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<v Speaker 1>because we are not going to be legalizing abortion nationwide

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<v Speaker 1>in the next two years because we are going to

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<v Speaker 1>have a Republican House almost certainly, Dobbs is almost definitely

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a huge factor in twenty four as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, and I guess that, like because the question

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<v Speaker 1>I had, and I think a lot of people had

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<v Speaker 1>running into this, especially people who are not election lovers,

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<v Speaker 1>is like, do things matter? Right? Like? It was Dobbs

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<v Speaker 1>going to matter? And was the were the constant sort

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<v Speaker 1>of Republican assaults on on the ability of people to vote?

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<v Speaker 1>Was the fucking attacks on children's hospitals and on trans

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<v Speaker 1>case and stuff like? Was all of that going to work? Like?

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<v Speaker 1>Do do things matter? Still? And? Uh, you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>have to renswer that question. But it does kind of

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<v Speaker 1>seem like that's the positive take out from this is

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<v Speaker 1>not like, you know, it's it's probably probably too early

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<v Speaker 1>to say are we seeing some sort of grand progressive

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<v Speaker 1>swing or are people coming around on Biden or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>things politicos want to take. But it does kind of

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<v Speaker 1>seem that, like, on a on a very like ground

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<v Speaker 1>floor level, Uh, it mattered that the Republicans were doing

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<v Speaker 1>awful things, Yes, mattered. Um, I think Christopher and I

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<v Speaker 1>have talked about how, in his words, Leah Thomas cost

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<v Speaker 1>the Michigan Republican Party of the election. Um, let's talk.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about that, because I think a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people I mean, yeah, let's yeah, let's talk about Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give them I'll give the meme version of it first.

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<v Speaker 1>The meme version of it basically is that there was Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so there there there was a report released by the

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<v Speaker 1>Republican Party in Michigan after the election when they sort

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<v Speaker 1>of got hammered. Part of what they're talking about was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so inflation is like seven point seven percent right now, right,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the freest election anyone has ever been handed,

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<v Speaker 1>like in human history, Like a child could have won

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<v Speaker 1>this election. And the Republicans vanaged to blow it. And

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<v Speaker 1>one of these they talk about this, they spent they

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<v Speaker 1>spent like twenty five million dollars, like specifically on ads

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<v Speaker 1>about trans like trans kids in sports and everybody mission.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just like what the yes, real care not

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<v Speaker 1>just not just blew it, but blew it in a

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<v Speaker 1>way that they haven't blown it in forty years. Because

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<v Speaker 1>for the first time in forty years, Democrats will have

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<v Speaker 1>complete control of the Michigan state government. Yeah. Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>it's like it's like the other things. It wasn't just

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<v Speaker 1>in Michigan where this happened, right like like quite possibly,

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<v Speaker 1>Like one of the ways they're going to lose the

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<v Speaker 1>Senate is because like the Republicans like entire sort of

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<v Speaker 1>apparatus and Nevada was against the Equal Rights Amendments, which

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<v Speaker 1>and specifically they were running against the equal nevented passing

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<v Speaker 1>diversity of the Equal Rights Amendment, like specifically on the

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<v Speaker 1>grounds of transphobia, and the e ARRA passed by seventeen points. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and replicants are about to lose that Senate. See, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's just like my mein version of this is that

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<v Speaker 1>the Republican Party ran a platform that is like the

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<v Speaker 1>political equivalent of like a street preacher, right, like that

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<v Speaker 1>that is the constituency for this. It is like they

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<v Speaker 1>unbelievably hate trans people. They like an unbelievably hard line

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<v Speaker 1>anti abortion position, which again like nobody actually likes. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it turns out like if if if your

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<v Speaker 1>constituency is street preachers, like the thing an average person

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<v Speaker 1>does when they run into a street preacher is walked

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<v Speaker 1>past them, and it turns out that's what happened to

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<v Speaker 1>hear like this and they got, oh, that's that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>the mean version of it. Absolutely, I mean that's not

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<v Speaker 1>just the mean version of it. Is essentially what happened,

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<v Speaker 1>UM in Michigan and Pennsylvania, in all of these states

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<v Speaker 1>where hardline Christian nationalists won Republican primaries, like they went

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<v Speaker 1>down hard um and so as Robert said, yeah, things

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<v Speaker 1>actually mattered this election, and that's a good thing. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think I know for me, as like, I

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<v Speaker 1>went into election night very nervous about my own predictions

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<v Speaker 1>because when I put together my um Google spreadsheet that

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<v Speaker 1>will never be shown to any of you because of

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<v Speaker 1>how insane it is. UM. And I was picking, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I got more races wrong, by the way, by picking

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<v Speaker 1>Republicans to win that Democrats actually won, then the other

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<v Speaker 1>way around, because I kept second guessing myself. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>no, no no, no, I'm not I'm being too kind to

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<v Speaker 1>Democrats and then I went too far. But when I

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<v Speaker 1>was making those predictions, honestly, I just kept thinking about, like,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm adopted, my parents are both white, and my

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<v Speaker 1>mom is this like white woman from appalation, Ohio. And

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<v Speaker 1>she is is UM in her upper sixties, so she

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<v Speaker 1>grew up in a world before Roe v. Wade UM.

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<v Speaker 1>And I had never seen my mom so angry about

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<v Speaker 1>anything in politics, and like she was very very angry

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<v Speaker 1>when Trump won. UM. She has been very angry. She's

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<v Speaker 1>been very angry about like January six. She's been angry

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<v Speaker 1>about a lot of stuff the last several years, as

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<v Speaker 1>is my dad UM, because they're both very normally Democrats.

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<v Speaker 1>But my mom has never been angrier as far as

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen her than she was angrier about Dobbs. And

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't just like my mom. I was hearing from

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<v Speaker 1>friends of mine from across the Midwest who also have

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<v Speaker 1>like normy white suburban parents, and that was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing that I was hearing from them too,

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<v Speaker 1>is like, my mom is so upset about this, My

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<v Speaker 1>grandmother is so upset about this. These women who remembered

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<v Speaker 1>what it was like to grow up in a world

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<v Speaker 1>where abortion it was not something that that they had

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<v Speaker 1>access to if they needed it. UM, And that honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's it's obviously completely anecdotal. It's not databased

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<v Speaker 1>or data driven in any way. But that was just

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<v Speaker 1>what I kept thinking about as I was making predictions

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<v Speaker 1>about how the midterm was gonna go. Was you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that these people are angry enough that they

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<v Speaker 1>are not going to care about inflation. They're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to care about the fact that our economy is very

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<v Speaker 1>clearly headed for recession, um, because this is going to

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<v Speaker 1>matter more to them, um, And it did. I kind't

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<v Speaker 1>want to move on to talking about what what we

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<v Speaker 1>think this sets us up for because I think the

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<v Speaker 1>clearest and we talked about this a little earlier, but

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<v Speaker 1>sort of the clearest thing that's positive about this is

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<v Speaker 1>that we have of fewer state secretaries of state and

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<v Speaker 1>state legislatures in the hands of the Republican Party, which

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<v Speaker 1>means more of a chance that like what people actually

0:17:10.440 --> 0:17:14.920
<v Speaker 1>vote for is going no matter. Um. Now, we're still

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with the judiciary that is as fucked as it

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<v Speaker 1>was prior to the mid terms and probably won't be

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<v Speaker 1>less fucked in a way that is notable, um and aggregate, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we can. We can always hope and pray. Yeah. Then

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<v Speaker 1>there could be a couple of very specific car accidents. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah on that point. Actually, so there, I know, I

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<v Speaker 1>bang on about about like how the United States deals

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<v Speaker 1>with its indigenous people a lot, but like that they

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<v Speaker 1>slated and we'll do an episode on it, but we're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to do it properly. Like slated for this Supreme

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<v Speaker 1>Court session is to look at AQUA, right, the Indian

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<v Speaker 1>Child Welfare Act, and like the challenge to it, challenges

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<v Speaker 1>on out of the basis of other tribal law and

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<v Speaker 1>in places like Arizona, right, Like, indigenous people are a

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<v Speaker 1>large like often like they're supposed to be like the

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<v Speaker 1>swing electorate and for like blue Arizona, so they could

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<v Speaker 1>have positive outcomes for for Democrats, it could they could.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how they could go out their way

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<v Speaker 1>to this in French trans indigenous people, but they find

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<v Speaker 1>you and exciting ways to do it all the fucking time.

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<v Speaker 1>So like that will be interesting. And one thing I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to raise is like, so I live in California,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think is seen as like the left coast

0:18:35.320 --> 0:18:38.080
<v Speaker 1>and stuff, but we have an alarming amount of really

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<v Speaker 1>chuggly people going to the house from California, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's becoming increasingly a bit like where like some of

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<v Speaker 1>you live in Oregon, where like you have a very

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<v Speaker 1>The far right in California is larger than the population

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<v Speaker 1>of like many United US states. Yeah, yes, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>increasingly big mad about like it's small things, m but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm just looking at the districts around the one

0:19:05.840 --> 0:19:08.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm in, and a number of them have sent like

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<v Speaker 1>anti reproductive rights house representatives back to the House. California

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<v Speaker 1>is a state where, um, the Democratic Party likes to

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<v Speaker 1>flop its way to victory. It's one of it's one

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<v Speaker 1>of the most incompetent state Democratic parties in the country,

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<v Speaker 1>which is really saying something because they're competing. They're competing

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<v Speaker 1>with they're competing with Florida. Like, I mean, hey, Oregons

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<v Speaker 1>not didn't do great either, Like the state Democratic Party

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<v Speaker 1>in Oregon had the most narrow governor's race in a

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<v Speaker 1>long time, and also the Dems lost their their supermajority

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<v Speaker 1>in the state Congress. They did lose their supermajority, but

0:19:47.680 --> 0:19:53.320
<v Speaker 1>Democrats in Oregon do now have the ability to redistrict again,

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<v Speaker 1>so they can take back that seat that Republicans picked

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<v Speaker 1>up because there were is a constitutional amendment that got

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<v Speaker 1>passed by the voters of Oregon that says that if

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<v Speaker 1>Republicans do what they have done in the last few

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<v Speaker 1>years in Oregon, which is walk out of the state

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<v Speaker 1>House any time that a lot of my past they

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<v Speaker 1>get banned for running for re election. But also, like

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<v Speaker 1>without the supermajority, I don't know that there's as much

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<v Speaker 1>of any I mean, we'll see what happens. Um, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's there. As a general rule, it seems like when

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<v Speaker 1>you've got there's no meaningful competition for what party is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be in control of the state. It becomes

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<v Speaker 1>a haven for like the political equivalent of grifters to

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<v Speaker 1>suck in huge salaries and do very little um and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah math, or to just do like star mayor look

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<v Speaker 1>at that may also yeah, and she's up for re

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<v Speaker 1>election in a few months, and we can only hope

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<v Speaker 1>that she that she loses. I can't imagine her winning.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it could happen, It could happen, It could happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Here here's here's an ad break. Yeah what a professional. Ah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're back. And you know what, talking about the mid

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<v Speaker 1>term elections makes me feel like doing smoking a cigarette.

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<v Speaker 1>Buy cigarettes, kids, they're is good for you. As democracy.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we're back in some other interesting news. This

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<v Speaker 1>is also the this this Pessiman terms had more lgbt

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<v Speaker 1>Q candidates win office than ever before in a midterm election.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a few notable winds uh, specifically with trans

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<v Speaker 1>people in the Midwest actually, which has been probably a

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<v Speaker 1>decent side. It's it's a good sign, you know, heroes

0:21:56.119 --> 0:22:00.720
<v Speaker 1>are doing good. Yeah, there's been a multiple multiple trans

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<v Speaker 1>people and trans uh particularly quite a few trans women

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<v Speaker 1>elected to state legislatives across across the Midwest, like in

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<v Speaker 1>Montana and inside uh Midwestern I'm calling that out. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well Mountain West. See. Well, the thing is I grew

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<v Speaker 1>I grew up in Saskatchewan, which is like above Montana,

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<v Speaker 1>and whenever you would drive down, we would always stay

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<v Speaker 1>in the more Midwest east sections and everyone talks it

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<v Speaker 1>felt very Midwest to me because of where I lived

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<v Speaker 1>in Saskatchewan. So apology apologies to people who are Montana Mountainers,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess apologies, No, no, we don't need to be

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<v Speaker 1>upon So Zoe Zephyr, who testified against anti trans legislation

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<v Speaker 1>previously is now able to vote against it um in Minnesota.

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<v Speaker 1>I talk about that, like very briefly, which is that like, Okay,

0:23:11.760 --> 0:23:14.840
<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of queer communities in places that

0:23:15.200 --> 0:23:19.240
<v Speaker 1>people just fucking ignore. Absolutely, it's just can you cannot

0:23:19.280 --> 0:23:24.359
<v Speaker 1>discount these places? Yeah, it's like Missoula specifically has has

0:23:24.400 --> 0:23:28.280
<v Speaker 1>a like like pretty substantive queer community. They do good ship,

0:23:28.520 --> 0:23:31.720
<v Speaker 1>they're out there like they're like there's there's this sort

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<v Speaker 1>of tendency I think to like like look at like

0:23:34.760 --> 0:23:36.600
<v Speaker 1>a state and go like, oh, it's a red state,

0:23:36.680 --> 0:23:39.040
<v Speaker 1>like there's whatever. They're just fleeing, and it's like it's

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<v Speaker 1>not true, Like there there are a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>who are like have for many years been building a

0:23:43.840 --> 0:23:47.080
<v Speaker 1>community there and hanging aucenaciously and building it. And also

0:23:47.080 --> 0:23:50.600
<v Speaker 1>in Missoula, people take notice. Also in Missoula, the first

0:23:50.640 --> 0:23:55.359
<v Speaker 1>non binary candidate was elected in UH s J. Howell,

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<v Speaker 1>So tou to trans people. It's elected there in in

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<v Speaker 1>uh in Missoula. But the way did did did Missoula,

0:24:04.440 --> 0:24:12.720
<v Speaker 1>Missoula do this? Portland? Probably Portland's like city councils like

0:24:12.800 --> 0:24:16.800
<v Speaker 1>four people. Yeah that's true, yeah, entirely. Yeah, and it

0:24:16.960 --> 0:24:21.399
<v Speaker 1>swung and it's pretty conservative that this past election. Actually, um,

0:24:21.800 --> 0:24:26.160
<v Speaker 1>but we also had in Minnesota, uh lay a think

0:24:26.160 --> 0:24:29.760
<v Speaker 1>because the first transperson in state lets legislator and in

0:24:29.840 --> 0:24:32.920
<v Speaker 1>New Hampshire, Uh, they elected the first transman to a

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<v Speaker 1>US state House. So yeah, and and the other other

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<v Speaker 1>good thing is um Arizona got a Democratic governor, which

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<v Speaker 1>means a whole bunch of potential legislation will probably not

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<v Speaker 1>get signed on because Arizona did have some pretty pretty

0:24:49.720 --> 0:24:51.840
<v Speaker 1>pretty bad anti trans station to come up in the

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<v Speaker 1>past few years. I also want to talk about So

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<v Speaker 1>the Arizona election was critical, not just because it's amazing

0:24:58.840 --> 0:25:01.199
<v Speaker 1>that fucking carry La is not going to be governor

0:25:01.280 --> 0:25:06.280
<v Speaker 1>because she is an election denying google Um, but the

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<v Speaker 1>nicest thing Blake Masters might be the scariest person who

0:25:11.160 --> 0:25:13.399
<v Speaker 1>was running for a life. He is. He is the

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<v Speaker 1>scariest serial killer. Yeah, yeah, yeah he was. He was

0:25:20.520 --> 0:25:23.960
<v Speaker 1>scary until he was funny, is the thing, because like I,

0:25:24.080 --> 0:25:26.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, when they failed, they're always funny. Yeah. But

0:25:27.040 --> 0:25:29.720
<v Speaker 1>Christopher and I were talking about this before the podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>and like during the during the final debate between Blake

0:25:34.000 --> 0:25:37.359
<v Speaker 1>Masters and Mark Kelly, like and I just swear on

0:25:37.400 --> 0:25:42.040
<v Speaker 1>this podcast, like we're allowed to say whatever the hell

0:25:42.160 --> 0:25:48.600
<v Speaker 1>we want perfect Um debate. In their final debate between

0:25:48.880 --> 0:25:52.680
<v Speaker 1>Mark Kelly and Blake Masters, Mark Kelly's like final statement,

0:25:52.800 --> 0:25:56.480
<v Speaker 1>his conclusion argument was essentially pointing at Blake Masters and going,

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<v Speaker 1>look at this fucking freak. Yeah, yeah, it was great

0:25:59.800 --> 0:26:02.320
<v Speaker 1>it which is the which is one of the most

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<v Speaker 1>powerful things he could do in politics because he was

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<v Speaker 1>just like, like the specific thing he did, because his

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<v Speaker 1>language was was I think a lot more nuanced than that,

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<v Speaker 1>because what he was saying is Blake Masters. For those

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<v Speaker 1>of you who don't don't know, like one of the

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<v Speaker 1>most like famous moments of this campaign is he he

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<v Speaker 1>put out a campaign ad that was just him parking

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<v Speaker 1>in the desert with a silenced handgun, mentioning which is

0:26:31.240 --> 0:26:34.639
<v Speaker 1>a child's gun, first off, but anyway, mentioning twice that

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<v Speaker 1>the gun was German and like German, rested and then

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<v Speaker 1>firing it blindly at nothing. And then the ad he

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<v Speaker 1>fired it across the lake. Don't see him shoot at something,

0:26:49.240 --> 0:26:51.679
<v Speaker 1>We don't see him hit a target. He is his

0:26:51.760 --> 0:26:55.880
<v Speaker 1>stances dogs anyway, But it's just him taking a silence

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<v Speaker 1>pistol out repeatedly mentioning that the gun is German, firing it,

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<v Speaker 1>and the ad ends that's the whole a seconds of

0:27:05.119 --> 0:27:09.120
<v Speaker 1>him just fondling and badly shooting it. It's worth giving

0:27:09.160 --> 0:27:12.040
<v Speaker 1>the context that the person he's running against is someone

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<v Speaker 1>whose wife was shot in the head. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah,

0:27:16.600 --> 0:27:23.399
<v Speaker 1>because so that's but it's also just like, look, guns

0:27:23.640 --> 0:27:25.399
<v Speaker 1>are a big part of American life. A lot of

0:27:25.440 --> 0:27:28.840
<v Speaker 1>politicians have, including Democrats, have ads that involved guns, and

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<v Speaker 1>usually it's like here is me hunting, you know, or

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<v Speaker 1>even like here is me the range with friends, engaging

0:27:36.119 --> 0:27:39.239
<v Speaker 1>in a thing that many Americans do. Masters was just

0:27:39.480 --> 0:27:43.720
<v Speaker 1>blindly shooting a twenty two caliber handgun after immediately mentioning

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<v Speaker 1>that it's German. It was like someone showed an alien,

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<v Speaker 1>like a regular campaign ad someone shooting a gun, and

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<v Speaker 1>then yes, I mean it's funny that that's the term

0:27:53.680 --> 0:27:55.359
<v Speaker 1>that you use, because that was a term that was

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<v Speaker 1>flying around like Arizona social media the entire campaign. It

0:27:59.160 --> 0:28:04.119
<v Speaker 1>was like Blake Bastard's looks like an alien and you

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<v Speaker 1>get pumped with Peter Tiel money for so so he

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<v Speaker 1>has this and he has a couple of others like

0:28:09.400 --> 0:28:12.280
<v Speaker 1>he is, he is on he's a number one. He

0:28:12.320 --> 0:28:15.800
<v Speaker 1>worked with Peter Teele for years. Um, he's doing all

0:28:15.840 --> 0:28:22.160
<v Speaker 1>sorts of fucking gohoule ship on Twitter, like really mask off, fascist, unhinged, shit.

0:28:22.800 --> 0:28:25.920
<v Speaker 1>And Mark Kelly in the debate, isn't just like, look

0:28:25.960 --> 0:28:29.000
<v Speaker 1>at this freak. He's like, hey, we all know guys

0:28:29.080 --> 0:28:32.240
<v Speaker 1>like this talk about how dangerous and how scary they are,

0:28:32.400 --> 0:28:36.359
<v Speaker 1>but they they've never done anything. They're just like weirdos

0:28:36.480 --> 0:28:39.880
<v Speaker 1>trying to scare you so that you'll think that they're

0:28:40.120 --> 0:28:43.560
<v Speaker 1>they're powerful, and like, don't don't fall forward it And

0:28:43.560 --> 0:28:47.000
<v Speaker 1>it was perfect and the good news is that Arizona

0:28:47.080 --> 0:28:50.280
<v Speaker 1>voters did not fall for it because you know, not

0:28:50.320 --> 0:28:54.880
<v Speaker 1>only did Blake Masters lose by the best performing Republicans

0:28:54.880 --> 0:28:59.680
<v Speaker 1>in Arizona where their House candidates, like the statewide house

0:28:59.760 --> 0:29:02.280
<v Speaker 1>pular vote for the for U. S Congress, not the

0:29:02.280 --> 0:29:05.600
<v Speaker 1>statehouse was I think Republicans want it, are going to

0:29:05.600 --> 0:29:09.960
<v Speaker 1>win it by like five. So Cary Lake already drastically

0:29:10.080 --> 0:29:12.920
<v Speaker 1>underperformed that by six because she's gonna lose. And then

0:29:12.960 --> 0:29:18.320
<v Speaker 1>to Blake Masters underperformed his House candidates by like ten

0:29:18.400 --> 0:29:23.480
<v Speaker 1>or eleven. Unbelievable. It's it's I mean it. It really

0:29:23.480 --> 0:29:27.960
<v Speaker 1>goes to show that whatever most Americans want, they don't

0:29:28.000 --> 0:29:34.720
<v Speaker 1>want a fucking weirdo fascist freak threatening. Uh there an

0:29:34.760 --> 0:29:40.720
<v Speaker 1>astronaut's wife with a gun. Yeah, really briefly, like also

0:29:40.800 --> 0:29:43.200
<v Speaker 1>like on this note, of all of the queer and

0:29:43.240 --> 0:29:46.640
<v Speaker 1>trans candidates who won, um, I will point out this

0:29:46.720 --> 0:29:50.160
<v Speaker 1>follows the pattern that has taken shape in the last decade,

0:29:50.160 --> 0:29:54.040
<v Speaker 1>which is that these supposedly well not supposedly they are,

0:29:54.080 --> 0:29:56.840
<v Speaker 1>but like these red and purple states in the South

0:29:56.880 --> 0:29:59.760
<v Speaker 1>and the Midwest are sending queer and trans people into

0:29:59.800 --> 0:30:02.960
<v Speaker 1>the hall of power a lot faster than deep blue

0:30:03.040 --> 0:30:06.280
<v Speaker 1>states on the West coast and in the Northeast. The

0:30:06.400 --> 0:30:10.160
<v Speaker 1>first non unfortunately forget their name, but the first non

0:30:10.200 --> 0:30:14.800
<v Speaker 1>binary state legislator in the country was elected in Oklahoma.

0:30:14.920 --> 0:30:17.120
<v Speaker 1>And they're not only non binary, they are black and

0:30:17.200 --> 0:30:25.320
<v Speaker 1>Muslim non binary. UM. So it's like, you know, these um,

0:30:25.400 --> 0:30:29.000
<v Speaker 1>these communities as Christophers, like a, these communities do matter,

0:30:29.680 --> 0:30:31.640
<v Speaker 1>and we can't forget about them, we can't abandon them.

0:30:31.640 --> 0:30:34.280
<v Speaker 1>But also like not just they matter, but like, as

0:30:34.360 --> 0:30:38.840
<v Speaker 1>I will happily argue, with any political operative from either coast,

0:30:39.680 --> 0:30:41.880
<v Speaker 1>we are much more likely to see some kind of

0:30:41.920 --> 0:30:46.800
<v Speaker 1>progressive resurgeons resurgeons in this country led by candidates out

0:30:46.840 --> 0:30:49.960
<v Speaker 1>of the South or Midwest than either yeah, yeah, well

0:30:49.960 --> 0:30:51.160
<v Speaker 1>and like like look at like this is one of

0:30:51.200 --> 0:30:52.760
<v Speaker 1>the everythings that that you know, So I have a

0:30:52.800 --> 0:30:57.640
<v Speaker 1>lot of friends in the like Michigan teachers Union, right,

0:30:58.400 --> 0:31:00.800
<v Speaker 1>and you know, like right right now, what is happening

0:31:00.800 --> 0:31:02.760
<v Speaker 1>in the Michigan Like in Michigan is that the teachers

0:31:02.800 --> 0:31:06.320
<v Speaker 1>Union is literally sending lists of laws like to to

0:31:06.440 --> 0:31:08.360
<v Speaker 1>the governor that are like you need to get rid

0:31:08.360 --> 0:31:10.320
<v Speaker 1>of this. And you know, if you like if even

0:31:10.360 --> 0:31:12.840
<v Speaker 1>if you look at like like almost every other Democratic

0:31:12.880 --> 0:31:16.360
<v Speaker 1>Party like in the country is just constantly at word

0:31:16.440 --> 0:31:20.240
<v Speaker 1>their teachers unions, and you know, and then you look

0:31:20.240 --> 0:31:22.720
<v Speaker 1>at like you look at what's happening in Wisconsin, and

0:31:22.760 --> 0:31:27.479
<v Speaker 1>it's like, like, what's happening in Michigan. Wells also Wisconsin too,

0:31:27.520 --> 0:31:29.760
<v Speaker 1>with like they have a much more labor friendly like

0:31:29.800 --> 0:31:33.120
<v Speaker 1>the Democratic Party even like fucking San Francisco or like

0:31:33.160 --> 0:31:37.120
<v Speaker 1>the ghouls in like like honestly the ghouls in the

0:31:37.200 --> 0:31:42.400
<v Speaker 1>Chicago machine, right Eric Adams office. Yeah, right, Like there's

0:31:42.480 --> 0:31:47.200
<v Speaker 1>there's there's I don't know, they're like everybody doors the

0:31:47.240 --> 0:31:51.160
<v Speaker 1>Midwest and we're here, damn it, and we do good things.

0:31:50.920 --> 0:31:52.440
<v Speaker 1>Well it's a little bit like I mean, it's a

0:31:52.480 --> 0:31:54.400
<v Speaker 1>little bit of what we were saying earlier that like

0:31:54.600 --> 0:32:00.800
<v Speaker 1>when you've got these states where because of the population layout,

0:32:01.360 --> 0:32:05.880
<v Speaker 1>the Democratic Party doesn't have to struggle to actually win

0:32:06.040 --> 0:32:08.360
<v Speaker 1>for the most part, you're a hell of a lot.

0:32:08.440 --> 0:32:12.040
<v Speaker 1>Number one, the party becomes effectively a cartel, so they're

0:32:12.200 --> 0:32:16.240
<v Speaker 1>very good at stopping any like upstart, young progressive, non binary,

0:32:16.320 --> 0:32:19.520
<v Speaker 1>queer trans people from like getting a hold on in

0:32:19.800 --> 0:32:22.120
<v Speaker 1>local politics. You know, we we just had the most

0:32:22.160 --> 0:32:25.240
<v Speaker 1>progressive member of the Portland City Council ousted by corporate

0:32:25.280 --> 0:32:30.120
<v Speaker 1>business interests UM and you know it, which is very

0:32:30.120 --> 0:32:32.280
<v Speaker 1>different from the trend that you're seeing in places like Montana,

0:32:32.360 --> 0:32:34.600
<v Speaker 1>places like Oklahoma with a lot of these very progressive,

0:32:34.800 --> 0:32:38.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, young candidates. And it's because um number one,

0:32:38.400 --> 0:32:40.280
<v Speaker 1>maybe the state parties are a little more willing to

0:32:40.280 --> 0:32:44.920
<v Speaker 1>throw a hail Mary. But also, just like those individual people,

0:32:45.000 --> 0:32:47.200
<v Speaker 1>the people running in the folks doing their campaign have

0:32:47.240 --> 0:32:49.040
<v Speaker 1>had to be a lot harder and a lot smarter

0:32:49.240 --> 0:32:53.760
<v Speaker 1>to survive surrounded by people who hate them. And I

0:32:53.800 --> 0:32:58.680
<v Speaker 1>think also like there's one of the ways that I

0:32:58.720 --> 0:33:02.200
<v Speaker 1>was pretty sure that this wasn't going to be a

0:33:02.240 --> 0:33:04.440
<v Speaker 1>read tsunami was so I have some friends, I have

0:33:04.440 --> 0:33:06.959
<v Speaker 1>friends who go to Wheaton College, and for people who

0:33:07.000 --> 0:33:09.840
<v Speaker 1>don't know who what Wheaton College is. It is like

0:33:10.000 --> 0:33:12.960
<v Speaker 1>we're sorry that we're about to inform you. Yeah. So

0:33:13.000 --> 0:33:16.240
<v Speaker 1>Wheaton College is one of like I don't know, maybe

0:33:16.320 --> 0:33:21.000
<v Speaker 1>the second behind like Graham Young like most right, we

0:33:21.000 --> 0:33:24.720
<v Speaker 1>can evangelical college in the US, like they they famous.

0:33:24.320 --> 0:33:27.160
<v Speaker 1>It's it's not as bad as the Liberty Yeah, yeah,

0:33:27.400 --> 0:33:29.480
<v Speaker 1>it's like number three, right, but like so it's it's

0:33:29.520 --> 0:33:32.000
<v Speaker 1>it's this is this is like the the intellectual center

0:33:32.760 --> 0:33:37.840
<v Speaker 1>of um like of sort of evangelical politics, like make

0:33:37.880 --> 0:33:40.240
<v Speaker 1>sure I have this right, yeah, Like Billy Graham's family

0:33:40.320 --> 0:33:43.440
<v Speaker 1>has funneled money into wheat In College for decades. In

0:33:43.480 --> 0:33:46.320
<v Speaker 1>two days now and okay, so like Wheaton is a

0:33:46.560 --> 0:33:51.800
<v Speaker 1>like broadly beking like a fucking ferociously hostile place to

0:33:52.000 --> 0:33:56.320
<v Speaker 1>be anything other than a like assist head white person. Right,

0:33:57.280 --> 0:34:01.440
<v Speaker 1>it is like unbelievably homophobic. It is really anti semitic.

0:34:02.720 --> 0:34:08.640
<v Speaker 1>And like a few months ago, I was walking like

0:34:08.920 --> 0:34:12.840
<v Speaker 1>through Wheaton downtown to visit a front and in the

0:34:12.880 --> 0:34:17.239
<v Speaker 1>middle of fucking Wheaton Downtown, they're they're they're like there

0:34:17.280 --> 0:34:20.000
<v Speaker 1>there there was someone who on in there in there

0:34:20.000 --> 0:34:23.320
<v Speaker 1>like fucking lawn had had like had a giant Pride

0:34:23.320 --> 0:34:24.640
<v Speaker 1>flag and like it wasn't like it was like it

0:34:24.680 --> 0:34:27.120
<v Speaker 1>was like the it was the like the Brown Pride

0:34:27.160 --> 0:34:32.280
<v Speaker 1>flag too, right, Like that was like even like five

0:34:32.360 --> 0:34:35.160
<v Speaker 1>years ago, that would have been unimaginable, Like you would

0:34:35.160 --> 0:34:37.000
<v Speaker 1>have been like you would have been fucking chased out

0:34:37.040 --> 0:34:40.920
<v Speaker 1>of town by a bob. Like and it's it's just

0:34:40.920 --> 0:34:44.319
<v Speaker 1>there now, and I don't know, like they haven't been

0:34:44.360 --> 0:34:48.640
<v Speaker 1>run out. It's still there. No, it's literally yes everything

0:34:48.640 --> 0:34:51.120
<v Speaker 1>that Christopher just said. And you know, these are people

0:34:51.160 --> 0:34:53.960
<v Speaker 1>that Christopher, Christopher and I grew up with, like we

0:34:54.080 --> 0:34:58.200
<v Speaker 1>literally I was there was a granddaughter of Billy Graham

0:34:58.239 --> 0:35:03.440
<v Speaker 1>in my high school class. Um. And I think, you know,

0:35:03.960 --> 0:35:05.400
<v Speaker 1>as much as you know, these people are not going

0:35:05.440 --> 0:35:07.440
<v Speaker 1>to be socialists or progressive as anytime soon. They are

0:35:07.520 --> 0:35:11.040
<v Speaker 1>very much like normy moderate Democrats now. But there were

0:35:11.160 --> 0:35:13.799
<v Speaker 1>a lot of suburban white people who got very turned

0:35:13.800 --> 0:35:16.959
<v Speaker 1>off by Trump for the Republican Party. And I think

0:35:17.719 --> 0:35:22.560
<v Speaker 1>this mid term is the confirmation that, barring you know,

0:35:22.640 --> 0:35:27.600
<v Speaker 1>some kind of economic catastrophe that always always throws elections

0:35:27.600 --> 0:35:31.719
<v Speaker 1>to the out of power party, Uh, these Norman white

0:35:31.719 --> 0:35:35.400
<v Speaker 1>suburban nights are not going back. Uh. And we you know,

0:35:35.520 --> 0:35:39.360
<v Speaker 1>when you look at trends across the country. Um you

0:35:39.400 --> 0:35:42.759
<v Speaker 1>know JB. Printker one do Page County, which is the

0:35:42.880 --> 0:35:46.560
<v Speaker 1>county that Wheaton is in, which is like you know

0:35:46.680 --> 0:35:49.600
<v Speaker 1>this is this yeah, like this used to be within

0:35:50.080 --> 0:35:52.680
<v Speaker 1>Christopher and I his lifetimes. This used to be a

0:35:52.680 --> 0:35:56.440
<v Speaker 1>county that Republicans banked on getting three hundred thousand votes

0:35:56.440 --> 0:35:59.600
<v Speaker 1>out of on a statewide margin level. Um and now

0:35:59.640 --> 0:36:02.799
<v Speaker 1>it's being one up and down by Democrats. Like Democrats

0:36:02.800 --> 0:36:06.239
<v Speaker 1>flipped the county executive office in du Page County this year.

0:36:06.920 --> 0:36:10.320
<v Speaker 1>Um So, like Chicago suburbs are trending are continuing to

0:36:10.360 --> 0:36:14.120
<v Speaker 1>trend left, Atlanta suburbs are continuing to trend left. Uh

0:36:14.280 --> 0:36:17.960
<v Speaker 1>the like Raleigh Durham area in North Carolina is trending left.

0:36:18.000 --> 0:36:20.560
<v Speaker 1>The Texas urban areas are trending left. And this isn't

0:36:20.600 --> 0:36:23.040
<v Speaker 1>just like in comparison to twenty six. This is in

0:36:23.080 --> 0:36:26.800
<v Speaker 1>comparison to two years ago, which was a democratic environment.

0:36:27.400 --> 0:36:30.800
<v Speaker 1>Um So, the fact that these counties are swinging left

0:36:31.080 --> 0:36:34.400
<v Speaker 1>in a year where the country, even though the overall

0:36:34.440 --> 0:36:38.839
<v Speaker 1>results were fined, the country definitely swung right, like these

0:36:38.840 --> 0:36:40.480
<v Speaker 1>people are not going back. And not just that these

0:36:40.480 --> 0:36:43.239
<v Speaker 1>people are not going back, but the ones who are

0:36:43.239 --> 0:36:46.719
<v Speaker 1>staying Republicans A. They're moving, they're leaving the suburbs and

0:36:46.760 --> 0:36:52.320
<v Speaker 1>they're establishing their little new white flight outposts in other places. Um.

0:36:52.440 --> 0:36:54.640
<v Speaker 1>And the people who are replacing them are largely people

0:36:54.640 --> 0:36:57.400
<v Speaker 1>of color. Like the suburbs today in America are sixty

0:36:57.480 --> 0:37:00.560
<v Speaker 1>percent white as compared to in the year two thousand

0:37:00.560 --> 0:37:04.879
<v Speaker 1>when they were something like percent white. UM. So this

0:37:05.000 --> 0:37:07.719
<v Speaker 1>is I think this year was the confirmation we needed

0:37:07.760 --> 0:37:09.919
<v Speaker 1>that this is a permanent trend that the suburbs from

0:37:09.960 --> 0:37:12.800
<v Speaker 1>now on are either going to be a wash or

0:37:13.400 --> 0:37:17.000
<v Speaker 1>even frankly just democratic places where Democrats will net votes.

0:37:17.520 --> 0:37:20.600
<v Speaker 1>And this is all. There still is a lot of fear,

0:37:20.640 --> 0:37:24.320
<v Speaker 1>and there's still is reason to be very concerned about

0:37:24.320 --> 0:37:27.440
<v Speaker 1>the ability of the GOP's power to push things in

0:37:27.520 --> 0:37:31.320
<v Speaker 1>a revancheus direction, in an anti democratic election, to remove

0:37:31.360 --> 0:37:33.160
<v Speaker 1>the ability of people because that that is you know,

0:37:33.200 --> 0:37:34.880
<v Speaker 1>we're seeing them talk right now. We're seeing guys like

0:37:34.920 --> 0:37:37.920
<v Speaker 1>Matt Walsh, Christopher Rufo talk right now about the need

0:37:38.000 --> 0:37:41.439
<v Speaker 1>to like stop young people from voting, to crack down

0:37:41.480 --> 0:37:44.080
<v Speaker 1>on mail voting. Like this is not not to say

0:37:44.120 --> 0:37:47.480
<v Speaker 1>like all right, it's all done, um, but this is

0:37:47.520 --> 0:37:50.960
<v Speaker 1>like I guess the thing that's that's optimistic about this

0:37:51.080 --> 0:37:58.040
<v Speaker 1>overall is that it is um it's evidence that the

0:37:59.680 --> 0:38:03.360
<v Speaker 1>the there there was this kind of open question after

0:38:03.400 --> 0:38:08.839
<v Speaker 1>Trump won in UM and if one thing you could

0:38:08.920 --> 0:38:10.840
<v Speaker 1>look at, you could look at, you could look at

0:38:12.280 --> 0:38:14.839
<v Speaker 1>two and go like, well, clearly the trend since then

0:38:14.920 --> 0:38:17.600
<v Speaker 1>has been for the GOP to lose big in most

0:38:17.640 --> 0:38:21.200
<v Speaker 1>of these elections. But that was also anything but clear,

0:38:21.280 --> 0:38:24.919
<v Speaker 1>kind of as a result of the way COVID fuck

0:38:25.000 --> 0:38:28.120
<v Speaker 1>things up. And this this does seem to like submit

0:38:28.239 --> 0:38:31.759
<v Speaker 1>that that like, yeah, it may it may have in

0:38:31.800 --> 0:38:35.840
<v Speaker 1>the long run proved to be a major, major tactical

0:38:35.920 --> 0:38:39.000
<v Speaker 1>failure to to have gone for this guy the way

0:38:39.000 --> 0:38:40.799
<v Speaker 1>that they did. Oh yeah, I mean, and we can

0:38:40.800 --> 0:38:45.560
<v Speaker 1>only hope. I mean, I personally, from an entertainment factor,

0:38:46.320 --> 0:38:50.239
<v Speaker 1>cannot wait for the the Santa's versus Trump primary. Um,

0:38:50.440 --> 0:38:52.520
<v Speaker 1>I will be I will be rooting for Trump because

0:38:52.560 --> 0:38:56.200
<v Speaker 1>he is funnier online. Um. And also I don't think

0:38:56.200 --> 0:38:59.719
<v Speaker 1>it would make a substance of difference, uh in whether

0:38:59.800 --> 0:39:03.080
<v Speaker 1>or not like who would be the nominee, because the

0:39:03.120 --> 0:39:10.080
<v Speaker 1>Santis is just Trump without the charisma. Um. But I think, yeah, hopefully,

0:39:10.920 --> 0:39:14.520
<v Speaker 1>like we saw the Republican party pay a price this

0:39:14.600 --> 0:39:17.640
<v Speaker 1>year for arguably the first time in a long time

0:39:18.040 --> 0:39:22.560
<v Speaker 1>for their insanity. Um and it's good to see that

0:39:22.560 --> 0:39:26.160
<v Speaker 1>that happened. Hopefully it will happen again. And I will

0:39:26.200 --> 0:39:29.560
<v Speaker 1>also note for anyone listening, who does you know, you

0:39:29.600 --> 0:39:32.440
<v Speaker 1>care about elections, you want to get involved somewhere. The

0:39:32.520 --> 0:39:35.319
<v Speaker 1>next somewhere for you to get involved in is the

0:39:35.360 --> 0:39:39.440
<v Speaker 1>state of Wisconsin, where the there is a state Supreme

0:39:39.440 --> 0:39:43.560
<v Speaker 1>Court seat up for election in April. If Democrats win

0:39:43.640 --> 0:39:46.799
<v Speaker 1>that seat, they will flip the Supreme Court in Wisconsin,

0:39:47.320 --> 0:39:53.680
<v Speaker 1>and that means that the absolutely insane Republican jerry managers

0:39:53.800 --> 0:39:56.120
<v Speaker 1>in that state, which pretty much render the state of

0:39:56.120 --> 0:40:00.440
<v Speaker 1>Wisconsin a non democracy, will likely get over charged if

0:40:00.480 --> 0:40:03.839
<v Speaker 1>Democrats are able to flip the Wisconsin Supreme Court, which

0:40:03.840 --> 0:40:06.600
<v Speaker 1>would mean a lot of good things could happen for

0:40:06.760 --> 0:40:19.760
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people who live in that state. Okay,

0:40:19.800 --> 0:40:22.640
<v Speaker 1>there is one other thing that is like basically umbul

0:40:22.680 --> 0:40:25.480
<v Speaker 1>agist I don't want to touch on before we blows up,

0:40:25.480 --> 0:40:28.440
<v Speaker 1>which is that the extent to which the Republicans have

0:40:28.840 --> 0:40:33.000
<v Speaker 1>sort of entered chaos mode now a with with Trump

0:40:33.120 --> 0:40:36.440
<v Speaker 1>just sort of like going off on the Santis and

0:40:36.560 --> 0:40:40.440
<v Speaker 1>like the Remolican civil war happening. And then secondly, because

0:40:40.480 --> 0:40:44.080
<v Speaker 1>they seem it looks like they've gotten the chaos mode

0:40:44.120 --> 0:40:50.160
<v Speaker 1>configuration of their House majority. Yes, Um, any anyone who

0:40:50.160 --> 0:40:53.640
<v Speaker 1>pays attention to Congress, I would encourage you to get very,

0:40:53.760 --> 0:40:59.000
<v Speaker 1>very familiar with the term discharged petition, which is a

0:40:59.080 --> 0:41:02.360
<v Speaker 1>mechanism by which if you have a majority of the

0:41:02.400 --> 0:41:05.120
<v Speaker 1>House is willing to sign a piece of paper that

0:41:05.200 --> 0:41:07.279
<v Speaker 1>says we should put this bill on the floor no

0:41:07.320 --> 0:41:11.040
<v Speaker 1>matter what. It goes to the floor, no matter what. Um.

0:41:11.160 --> 0:41:14.520
<v Speaker 1>And I think you're probably going to see Democrats successfully

0:41:14.560 --> 0:41:16.480
<v Speaker 1>put a lot of bills on the House floor in

0:41:16.520 --> 0:41:18.799
<v Speaker 1>the next two years because they're gonna get They're going

0:41:18.840 --> 0:41:22.680
<v Speaker 1>to pick off the Republican moderates in the northeast to

0:41:22.760 --> 0:41:26.160
<v Speaker 1>sign these these pieces of paper. We should I think

0:41:26.160 --> 0:41:30.560
<v Speaker 1>we should explain what exactly Republican position looks like because

0:41:30.560 --> 0:41:34.720
<v Speaker 1>it's oh sure, so, UM, it's so. I I should

0:41:34.800 --> 0:41:38.439
<v Speaker 1>caveat this with the statement that there is still like

0:41:38.680 --> 0:41:41.720
<v Speaker 1>I would say, a five percent chance that Democrats managed

0:41:41.840 --> 0:41:47.480
<v Speaker 1>to scrap, like scrape their way to a one seat majority. Um,

0:41:47.480 --> 0:41:49.560
<v Speaker 1>it's not likely by any means, but like it is

0:41:49.560 --> 0:41:53.120
<v Speaker 1>still theoretically on the table, mostly because Lauren Bobert managed

0:41:53.280 --> 0:41:56.160
<v Speaker 1>to put herself into position where she might actually lose.

0:41:57.080 --> 0:42:03.480
<v Speaker 1>UM and but default modal outcome I would say is

0:42:03.719 --> 0:42:07.239
<v Speaker 1>Republicans end up with a three or four House seat majority.

0:42:07.800 --> 0:42:11.920
<v Speaker 1>Uh in. But what that means is that UHL, we

0:42:11.960 --> 0:42:15.520
<v Speaker 1>get Calvin Ball for the next two years, essentially because

0:42:15.640 --> 0:42:20.560
<v Speaker 1>Kevin McCarthy as a person, UM is well a he's

0:42:20.600 --> 0:42:23.920
<v Speaker 1>like very unintelligent in general. And this is like a

0:42:24.000 --> 0:42:26.840
<v Speaker 1>very common sentiment that you will run into uh in

0:42:26.880 --> 0:42:30.000
<v Speaker 1>people who pay attention to Congress. He is not personally

0:42:30.080 --> 0:42:33.640
<v Speaker 1>capable of managing a House majority of four. This is

0:42:33.680 --> 0:42:36.359
<v Speaker 1>so widely accepted that Nancy Pelosi was willing to go

0:42:36.480 --> 0:42:38.920
<v Speaker 1>on the record in an interview the other day saying

0:42:38.960 --> 0:42:44.960
<v Speaker 1>that UM and so who knows Kevin McCarthy made not

0:42:45.080 --> 0:42:47.319
<v Speaker 1>even end up being the speaker. We may not have

0:42:47.360 --> 0:42:50.799
<v Speaker 1>a speaker until March because no one would get two

0:42:51.200 --> 0:42:55.200
<v Speaker 1>and eighteen votes. Um. But whoever has that job, whatever

0:42:55.280 --> 0:42:57.640
<v Speaker 1>Republican has that job, it is going to be the

0:42:57.640 --> 0:42:59.760
<v Speaker 1>most thankless job of their life that they will suffer

0:42:59.760 --> 0:43:05.000
<v Speaker 1>through for the next two years. Because you know, the

0:43:05.000 --> 0:43:07.600
<v Speaker 1>the pundit class and political operatives love to talk about

0:43:07.600 --> 0:43:10.920
<v Speaker 1>how ideologically diverse the Democratic Party is in the House,

0:43:11.080 --> 0:43:13.160
<v Speaker 1>and it's true because like on the left wing end

0:43:13.160 --> 0:43:15.200
<v Speaker 1>of the of the caucus you have people like Rashida

0:43:15.280 --> 0:43:18.200
<v Speaker 1>Slab and Ellen Omar, and the right wing end you

0:43:18.200 --> 0:43:22.000
<v Speaker 1>have people like Henry quay Are, who tragically survived his

0:43:22.080 --> 0:43:27.000
<v Speaker 1>primary this year. UM. But I think it has gone

0:43:27.040 --> 0:43:31.520
<v Speaker 1>under the radar that Republicans in the House are arguably

0:43:31.719 --> 0:43:36.960
<v Speaker 1>more ideologically diverse than Democrats are because the moderates, the

0:43:36.960 --> 0:43:41.400
<v Speaker 1>moderate Republicans in the House are like your very standard

0:43:41.640 --> 0:43:45.480
<v Speaker 1>like socially liberal, fiscally conservative types that were very popular

0:43:45.560 --> 0:43:48.239
<v Speaker 1>and like two thousand ten, UM, Like you have like

0:43:48.320 --> 0:43:51.879
<v Speaker 1>some of these Northeastern Republicans who are were more than

0:43:51.880 --> 0:43:54.399
<v Speaker 1>happy to vote for same sex marriage, though they would

0:43:54.400 --> 0:43:59.239
<v Speaker 1>probably vote for uh like to quodeafy Row, they would

0:43:59.280 --> 0:44:04.680
<v Speaker 1>probably vote to codify birth control legal like reality. And

0:44:04.719 --> 0:44:08.040
<v Speaker 1>on the other end you have Marjorie Taylor Green and

0:44:09.200 --> 0:44:13.680
<v Speaker 1>like if MT yeah, if if there is a person

0:44:13.880 --> 0:44:17.200
<v Speaker 1>on this earth who is capable of managing that caucus, UM,

0:44:17.239 --> 0:44:19.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know who they are. I don't think anyone

0:44:19.080 --> 0:44:22.760
<v Speaker 1>knows who they are. UM. And I think that the

0:44:22.800 --> 0:44:26.399
<v Speaker 1>smartest thing that that person could do is, um not

0:44:26.520 --> 0:44:29.760
<v Speaker 1>take the job and let someone else take the fall

0:44:30.160 --> 0:44:32.360
<v Speaker 1>for what is going to be two years of chaos

0:44:32.400 --> 0:44:35.399
<v Speaker 1>that will most likely hurt the Republican brand a lot

0:44:35.480 --> 0:44:37.799
<v Speaker 1>in the next two years. Yeah. That that's like one

0:44:37.840 --> 0:44:40.719
<v Speaker 1>of the things that actually makes me like slightly optimistic

0:44:40.840 --> 0:44:47.200
<v Speaker 1>is that like the Republican Party like is it is

0:44:47.239 --> 0:44:49.480
<v Speaker 1>it like a first coalition and it had been being

0:44:49.520 --> 0:44:55.160
<v Speaker 1>held together sort of like by Trump and now Trump's

0:44:55.160 --> 0:44:59.399
<v Speaker 1>not on Twitter anymore and Twitter may not exist by

0:44:59.440 --> 0:45:04.279
<v Speaker 1>like the time need be speaker. Well, it's also I

0:45:04.320 --> 0:45:07.440
<v Speaker 1>think I might add Chris, it's not just by Trump.

0:45:07.520 --> 0:45:10.000
<v Speaker 1>And a part of why Trump was able to get

0:45:10.000 --> 0:45:11.960
<v Speaker 1>the position did is it's it's a mix of Trump

0:45:12.200 --> 0:45:15.240
<v Speaker 1>and owning the Libs, right, Like that's that's a huge

0:45:15.280 --> 0:45:18.320
<v Speaker 1>part of why the most visible members of this caucus

0:45:18.400 --> 0:45:21.240
<v Speaker 1>are where they are. Like, there's no there's no Marjorie

0:45:21.280 --> 0:45:26.280
<v Speaker 1>Taylor Green right without the way that particular social reinforcement

0:45:26.440 --> 0:45:32.520
<v Speaker 1>pattern works. And um yeah, I think that like that's

0:45:32.920 --> 0:45:35.759
<v Speaker 1>not like number one. If Twitter goes away, which could

0:45:35.760 --> 0:45:37.640
<v Speaker 1>have happened by the time you listen to this episode,

0:45:37.640 --> 0:45:40.080
<v Speaker 1>that really gets gets in the way of their ability

0:45:40.160 --> 0:45:42.760
<v Speaker 1>to own the Libs. But also if they're just getting

0:45:42.800 --> 0:45:45.640
<v Speaker 1>their asses kicked up and down the country, they're they're

0:45:45.680 --> 0:45:49.680
<v Speaker 1>no longer owning the Libs. The Libs have not been owned, No,

0:45:50.040 --> 0:45:53.200
<v Speaker 1>they have not. And I think the other, you know,

0:45:53.560 --> 0:45:57.840
<v Speaker 1>the other consideration here is that, um, we like to

0:45:57.880 --> 0:46:00.239
<v Speaker 1>talk a lot in this country because it's true about

0:46:00.320 --> 0:46:04.640
<v Speaker 1>neither party ever puts forth a substance of policy agenda. Um.

0:46:04.680 --> 0:46:07.480
<v Speaker 1>And there are a lot of Republican political operatives who

0:46:07.480 --> 0:46:10.640
<v Speaker 1>are running around right now complaining and saying that Republicans

0:46:10.680 --> 0:46:13.200
<v Speaker 1>lost because they failed to offer a viable alternative. Except

0:46:13.239 --> 0:46:16.600
<v Speaker 1>that's not true. Republicans did offer a policy agenda in

0:46:16.600 --> 0:46:19.879
<v Speaker 1>this mid term and that policy agenda was Christian nationalism,

0:46:19.960 --> 0:46:22.640
<v Speaker 1>and American voters took one look at that and said,

0:46:22.680 --> 0:46:26.200
<v Speaker 1>are you fucking for real? Yeah, like that that's the

0:46:26.320 --> 0:46:29.279
<v Speaker 1>that's the thing that like everyone like like people like

0:46:29.560 --> 0:46:32.200
<v Speaker 1>all the fucking New York Times calumn this, like people

0:46:32.360 --> 0:46:35.880
<v Speaker 1>don't understand that. Like there's maybe thirty percent of the

0:46:35.920 --> 0:46:40.120
<v Speaker 1>population who actually likes that ship, and everyone else in

0:46:40.160 --> 0:46:45.200
<v Speaker 1>the country is like, what the fuck? And you know,

0:46:45.239 --> 0:46:50.080
<v Speaker 1>and but but you know, like the like the the

0:46:50.080 --> 0:46:53.839
<v Speaker 1>the actual sort of median person in the US is

0:46:54.000 --> 0:46:56.520
<v Speaker 1>so much less like that than the median person that

0:46:56.560 --> 0:46:59.719
<v Speaker 1>every pundit imagines that like the version of reality that

0:46:59.760 --> 0:47:02.000
<v Speaker 1>exist since sort of like the minds of the media class,

0:47:02.480 --> 0:47:08.080
<v Speaker 1>like it's not yeah, they've they've, they've they've created incredible

0:47:08.120 --> 0:47:10.600
<v Speaker 1>sand castles in their mind. Now the tides like washing

0:47:10.680 --> 0:47:13.120
<v Speaker 1>them away. I don't know if the tides washing them away.

0:47:13.239 --> 0:47:15.440
<v Speaker 1>I think we we can. We can only hope that

0:47:15.480 --> 0:47:17.680
<v Speaker 1>The New York Times gets washed out to see But

0:47:19.000 --> 0:47:23.920
<v Speaker 1>I think you know, I sorry, go for it, no, no, no, please.

0:47:24.480 --> 0:47:27.400
<v Speaker 1>I was just gonna say, like, you know, obviously, the

0:47:27.480 --> 0:47:29.600
<v Speaker 1>next two years are going to be the next two years,

0:47:30.120 --> 0:47:32.719
<v Speaker 1>um and no one can predict the future. Anyone who

0:47:33.000 --> 0:47:36.360
<v Speaker 1>anyone who tells you and literally the next eighteen months

0:47:36.719 --> 0:47:39.160
<v Speaker 1>that they know how the two elections are going to

0:47:39.239 --> 0:47:41.759
<v Speaker 1>go is lying to you, and you should block them

0:47:41.880 --> 0:47:46.080
<v Speaker 1>and perhaps to report them to like whatever like non

0:47:46.719 --> 0:47:49.920
<v Speaker 1>retributed forms of authority exists in your local area. But

0:47:50.360 --> 0:47:55.279
<v Speaker 1>um my, you know, based on how this went, if

0:47:55.560 --> 0:47:58.520
<v Speaker 1>the same trends play out for the next two years,

0:47:58.719 --> 0:48:02.640
<v Speaker 1>which would be suburb continue swinging left Democrats continue to

0:48:02.760 --> 0:48:06.400
<v Speaker 1>rack up problems with minority voters, but like not to

0:48:06.520 --> 0:48:11.640
<v Speaker 1>the extent that we're gonna lose urban seats anytime soon. Um,

0:48:11.840 --> 0:48:14.680
<v Speaker 1>and Republicans continue racking up margins in the states and

0:48:14.800 --> 0:48:16.960
<v Speaker 1>like the seats that they're already winning by eighty points,

0:48:17.000 --> 0:48:19.080
<v Speaker 1>which helps them on a statewide level but does not

0:48:19.200 --> 0:48:22.120
<v Speaker 1>help them in the U. S. House. My I would say, like,

0:48:22.680 --> 0:48:26.920
<v Speaker 1>assuming the current trends continue the trends we've had since sixteen, UM,

0:48:27.719 --> 0:48:30.520
<v Speaker 1>that would mean Democrats flip back the House in two

0:48:30.600 --> 0:48:33.360
<v Speaker 1>thousand twenty four. Uh. It would also mean that we

0:48:33.440 --> 0:48:35.520
<v Speaker 1>are once again in like the fight of our lives

0:48:35.640 --> 0:48:37.919
<v Speaker 1>for the Senate, as we likely will be for every

0:48:37.960 --> 0:48:40.200
<v Speaker 1>single cycle for the next ten years. So you know,

0:48:40.400 --> 0:48:42.840
<v Speaker 1>just kind of get used to that, um while you

0:48:42.960 --> 0:48:46.520
<v Speaker 1>can when you have the breather. UM. But yeah, like,

0:48:47.400 --> 0:48:51.279
<v Speaker 1>we had an okay mid term that was literally a

0:48:51.400 --> 0:48:54.000
<v Speaker 1>year ago looking like it was going to be possibly

0:48:54.040 --> 0:48:58.360
<v Speaker 1>the worst midterm wipe out, possibly the end of the

0:48:58.440 --> 0:49:06.799
<v Speaker 1>Republics literally literally yea literally, UM, so it might be good.

0:49:07.239 --> 0:49:09.640
<v Speaker 1>I think the responsible thing to do now is to

0:49:09.760 --> 0:49:13.320
<v Speaker 1>close out by each giving one of our unhinged predictions

0:49:13.480 --> 0:49:17.240
<v Speaker 1>for what we're gonna see in and I'm going to start.

0:49:17.560 --> 0:49:21.360
<v Speaker 1>I think we're gonna see Musk and McConaughey via for

0:49:21.440 --> 0:49:24.959
<v Speaker 1>the governor of Texas once Greg Abbott is forced out

0:49:25.280 --> 0:49:29.080
<v Speaker 1>god from a sex scandal. Um, that's my that's my call,

0:49:30.920 --> 0:49:34.040
<v Speaker 1>proved to me. Show show when when when it happens? Everybody?

0:49:34.120 --> 0:49:38.840
<v Speaker 1>Everybody alowe me? Yeah, some some French fries. Oh god,

0:49:40.400 --> 0:49:44.200
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna happen. Calling it now tom Brady, I reckon,

0:49:44.400 --> 0:49:46.920
<v Speaker 1>Tom Brady is gonna tom Brady's gonna take a swing

0:49:47.000 --> 0:49:51.880
<v Speaker 1>at it at Texas. No one of those states up

0:49:51.960 --> 0:49:56.399
<v Speaker 1>in where it's called marine at the time. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:49:56.680 --> 0:50:01.440
<v Speaker 1>I assume he's from, broadly speaking, it Ay to Wisconsin.

0:50:02.480 --> 0:50:06.000
<v Speaker 1>He is, he would be running in New England. Please

0:50:06.000 --> 0:50:08.719
<v Speaker 1>do not pin that on us. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, bro,

0:50:08.840 --> 0:50:11.160
<v Speaker 1>but no that kind of cold, like yeah, just just gray,

0:50:11.320 --> 0:50:15.200
<v Speaker 1>not like like miserable cold like you will have the Yeah,

0:50:15.239 --> 0:50:16.960
<v Speaker 1>tom Brady running in a place where you can't grow

0:50:16.960 --> 0:50:20.359
<v Speaker 1>tomatoes is yeah, it's my prediction. That feels good. After

0:50:20.520 --> 0:50:26.960
<v Speaker 1>his massive success selling the hit crypto platform f t X.

0:50:27.560 --> 0:50:32.200
<v Speaker 1>What what can't Tom Brady do? Who knows? Don't don't

0:50:32.239 --> 0:50:35.040
<v Speaker 1>ask that wuldn't put that out there win games for

0:50:35.080 --> 0:50:40.160
<v Speaker 1>the bucketeers. Yeah, yeah in Germany. Yeah, survive eating what

0:50:40.360 --> 0:50:45.400
<v Speaker 1>any normal human being would eat on a given day. Garrison.

0:50:46.520 --> 0:50:49.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't. I don't care about this

0:50:49.239 --> 0:50:52.600
<v Speaker 1>type of thing very much. The perfect reason to make

0:50:52.880 --> 0:50:56.360
<v Speaker 1>prediction unhinged prediction. I don't know. I think one of

0:50:56.400 --> 0:50:59.000
<v Speaker 1>the funniest things is that earlier this year there's this

0:50:59.120 --> 0:51:02.480
<v Speaker 1>big bit quin account who said that if things continue,

0:51:02.840 --> 0:51:05.719
<v Speaker 1>bit coin is going to be a major factor in

0:51:05.840 --> 0:51:15.759
<v Speaker 1>the mid terms, which is so not wrong. So I'm

0:51:15.880 --> 0:51:20.960
<v Speaker 1>saying that, what's the what's what's an even dember cryptocurrency? Um?

0:51:24.000 --> 0:51:26.399
<v Speaker 1>I was thinking of? I was thinking of, does coin

0:51:26.480 --> 0:51:32.560
<v Speaker 1>is gonna be a significant factor in election? Yeah? Uh?

0:51:34.920 --> 0:51:37.960
<v Speaker 1>Mine is that? Mine is that? Okay, Pritzker is going

0:51:38.000 --> 0:51:41.120
<v Speaker 1>to bring back like the old school democratic machine, and

0:51:41.440 --> 0:51:43.800
<v Speaker 1>by bye bye is gonna fall out a window like

0:51:44.000 --> 0:51:47.239
<v Speaker 1>Kamala Harris. He's going to sort of like turn up

0:51:47.440 --> 0:51:50.359
<v Speaker 1>like they're going to drain a damn in thirty years

0:51:50.400 --> 0:51:54.439
<v Speaker 1>and find her body and it's going to run again. Yeah,

0:51:55.520 --> 0:51:57.800
<v Speaker 1>he won't because he will have fallen out of a building.

0:51:57.960 --> 0:52:05.759
<v Speaker 1>Then near the end of the about Christmas, that's your

0:52:05.800 --> 0:52:07.920
<v Speaker 1>prediction that Joe Biden will fall out of a window

0:52:10.280 --> 0:52:15.160
<v Speaker 1>the fourth Comtration of Prague. Like we we we all

0:52:15.280 --> 0:52:17.600
<v Speaker 1>think that like the sort of like threat, like the

0:52:17.640 --> 0:52:20.640
<v Speaker 1>threat to bourgeois democracy comes come comes from the Republicans.

0:52:20.760 --> 0:52:23.280
<v Speaker 1>It's not. It's Pritzker. Pritsker is gonna cu the fucking

0:52:23.320 --> 0:52:26.160
<v Speaker 1>country and probably sixty percent of the population is going

0:52:26.200 --> 0:52:28.200
<v Speaker 1>to be completely on board because he's going to be

0:52:28.320 --> 0:52:30.959
<v Speaker 1>less insane than like everyone that's been like in charge

0:52:31.000 --> 0:52:33.560
<v Speaker 1>of this country for the last fifty years. And you

0:52:33.640 --> 0:52:40.200
<v Speaker 1>know who's gonna save democracy? Then okay, m yeah, Okay.

0:52:40.960 --> 0:52:43.200
<v Speaker 1>That leaves me what is my unhinted prediction. I don't

0:52:43.200 --> 0:52:47.160
<v Speaker 1>think I'm gonna top christophers prediction about JP prints ker Um.

0:52:50.160 --> 0:52:52.480
<v Speaker 1>You know. I think my unhinted prediction will be that

0:52:52.560 --> 0:52:55.680
<v Speaker 1>Taylor Swift runs for Senate in Tennessee. Oh god, oh

0:52:55.760 --> 0:52:59.879
<v Speaker 1>she could do it. Yeah, yeah, don't don't look. It's

0:53:00.440 --> 0:53:02.560
<v Speaker 1>if she brings on, if she brings on the head

0:53:02.600 --> 0:53:05.320
<v Speaker 1>of her fan club who went to jail in Israel

0:53:05.440 --> 0:53:09.120
<v Speaker 1>for refusing to serve the idea, I think they actually

0:53:09.239 --> 0:53:13.200
<v Speaker 1>might get some progressive Yeah, that may have been untrue. Sadly,

0:53:13.440 --> 0:53:18.560
<v Speaker 1>the swifty refuge. But maybe, really, really, why why did

0:53:18.560 --> 0:53:20.719
<v Speaker 1>you even introducing that? Why? Why would you? Why would

0:53:20.760 --> 0:53:23.960
<v Speaker 1>you say that to me? Yeah, because not all these

0:53:23.960 --> 0:53:26.880
<v Speaker 1>beautiful things we believe it could be true, but Taylor

0:53:26.920 --> 0:53:30.160
<v Speaker 1>Swift running for Tennessee, she would almost certainly be better

0:53:30.200 --> 0:53:34.120
<v Speaker 1>than whoever is a Tennessee senator now right, Yeah, it's

0:53:34.160 --> 0:53:38.440
<v Speaker 1>now Colonel Sanders or someone basically the same as Colonel Sanders.

0:53:38.520 --> 0:53:43.280
<v Speaker 1>I imagine that's Kentucky. Yeah, come on, come on, British

0:53:45.239 --> 0:53:49.120
<v Speaker 1>is Kentucky. It's called Kentucky fried Chicken. James, that was

0:53:49.680 --> 0:53:56.640
<v Speaker 1>that was basically a slur. I there is a type

0:53:56.640 --> 0:54:00.640
<v Speaker 1>of guy epitomized by Colonel Sanders, who also pies all

0:54:00.719 --> 0:54:04.080
<v Speaker 1>the Senate seat south to the Mason Dixon line. That's

0:54:04.120 --> 0:54:07.399
<v Speaker 1>not true. That's that's my that's my stunt, and I'm

0:54:07.440 --> 0:54:10.560
<v Speaker 1>sticking to it. I am pushing back on this. Well,

0:54:11.960 --> 0:54:15.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna watch a fog horn leghorn video because that's

0:54:15.960 --> 0:54:18.400
<v Speaker 1>that's who I'm thinking of now, James, all right, everybody

0:54:19.040 --> 0:54:24.120
<v Speaker 1>that's been the episode, m hm, go vote Swift, Yeah,

0:54:24.239 --> 0:54:27.080
<v Speaker 1>vote another couple of times. Just make sure, yeah, this

0:54:27.239 --> 0:54:31.440
<v Speaker 1>looks the old Chicago model. Vote early vote often pay

0:54:31.520 --> 0:54:35.120
<v Speaker 1>for pay for a few meals. Everyone go to Colorado

0:54:35.480 --> 0:54:39.000
<v Speaker 1>and vote against lor Yes, literally seven of you or

0:54:39.040 --> 0:54:42.239
<v Speaker 1>whatever constwing this. Let move to Colorado. We can't deal

0:54:42.280 --> 0:54:45.280
<v Speaker 1>with her ship anymore. Fund raise in order to purchase

0:54:45.480 --> 0:54:49.520
<v Speaker 1>a huge number of drones and drop ballots over wherever

0:54:49.640 --> 0:54:55.479
<v Speaker 1>it is in Colorado. They count votes. I assume Denver, Yeah,

0:54:56.120 --> 0:54:59.719
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