1 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:10,119 Speaker 1: Everything's dead. Wait no, sorry, um, it's it could happen 2 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: here a podcast about stuff falling apart and today about 3 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: the fact that things fell less apart than people were 4 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: worried they were going to fall apart, and in some 5 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: ways got might get better. So that's kind of that's 6 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:30,319 Speaker 1: kind of nice. Sure. Yeah, on the whole, we're talking 7 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: about the mid terms today and on the whole okay, 8 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: I feel okay. Descripture. Yeah, it's the mid terms equivalent 9 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: of getting like an ounce of of of like mid 10 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: grade weed for like fifty bucks. But you find out 11 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: later that like kind of in the middle of it 12 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: was like half of a paper towel roll that they 13 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: stuck in there to push up the weight. But it's like, well, 14 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: least I got weed. All right, I've introduced the podcast 15 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: Who Do We? Who do we have here? Today? You 16 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: got me? I'm James Still, that's rightly? Yeah, yeah, I'm Garrison. 17 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: I didn't vote. Look at you wow. Way to be 18 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: a way to be an anarchist Garrison or a Canadian 19 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: same deff democracy? Yeah yeah, I like committing voter fraud 20 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: for the Democratic Party. Yeah yeah. I also decided to 21 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: not vote for the people who are doing like the 22 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: war on drugs in California right now, Garrison, you you 23 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 1: continued your your years long tradition of submitting a crewed 24 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: drawing of the Premier of Canada. Um to to a 25 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: ballot box. Shut, let's Trudeau coming out of a cave. 26 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: Who else do we have on with us right now? 27 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: I'm here, Christopher Wong, and I absolutely despise elections, so 28 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: I brought my friend who actually does like elections. That's 29 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: excellent token election in Jodan pretty much. Yes, Hi, I 30 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: am Jack. I am Christopher's token friend, as mentioned um 31 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 1: and I'm here partly because of nepotism for knowing Christopher 32 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: and partly because, as you reminded me, before we got started, 33 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 1: I had a ninety three percent accurate prediction rating for 34 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: all of the elections that I was paying attention to 35 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 1: this year, so I know some things. Congratulations. I only 36 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,679 Speaker 1: made one prediction before this election, which was, well, it 37 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 1: doesn't feel like Dr Roz is gonna win, which which 38 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: means you did better than a lot of the people 39 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: who are paid to do this. Like, Okay, that man, 40 00:02:55,880 --> 00:03:00,959 Speaker 1: that man said the word crew detay in an election 41 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania, Like there was he was never good. The 42 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: moment that d came out, he was going to lose. 43 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:14,679 Speaker 1: I see, that's much more nuanced than my my political analysis, 44 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: which was the fact that the other guy was much 45 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: taller than him and also way hot, Like if they 46 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,920 Speaker 1: just sounded it with a fist fight, fat could have 47 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 1: taken it. Yep, which that seems good. H It was fun. 48 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: It was a fun election. We all had a good time. 49 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: I enjoy that. Fucking Marjorie Taylor Green and j d 50 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: Vance are going to be in Congress together. That's going 51 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: to be fun for everybody. We're all gonna have a 52 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: good time. But I suspect there's probably some stuff we 53 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: haven't like. As you may have noticed listeners, we didn't 54 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: do much in the way of pre mid term content 55 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: because we all hate it. But but now now we're 56 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: talking about it. So what what what? What should we 57 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: know about these mid terms? What? What? What kind of 58 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: occurred to you as somebody who's like actually has spent 59 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: a lot more time delving into the nitty gritty and 60 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: thinking about what was likely to happen. Um. So I 61 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: told Christopher I would say this, and in arness, I 62 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: do genuinely believe it I think the story of these 63 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: mid terms when historians look back at it, will be 64 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: that the Dabbs Supreme Court decision had the same electoral 65 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: impact in the United States as nine eleven did. I 66 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: think that is going to be like how this plays 67 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 1: out over time, um, because when you look at how 68 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: things were going before Dabbs and then how things were 69 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: going after Dabbs. Obviously things got a lot worse on 70 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: the policy front because abortion became illegal in a lot 71 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 1: of states. Um. But the election essentially flipped overnight from 72 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: what was going to be a Republican wave to the 73 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 1: even split that we got. And that makes this one 74 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 1: of three post World War two midterms where the incumbent 75 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: party did well, and so this is definitely going to 76 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: be him in term that gets lectured about in policy 77 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,479 Speaker 1: one on one courses for the next hundred years. Also, 78 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: one of those, one of those other three, was the 79 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: nine was to push that left. It was yeah, actually, 80 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: I really because obviously I was aware, just because there 81 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: was so much cover in saying like this is the 82 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 1: best performance from an incumbent party in a mid term 83 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: since two thousand two. So it was aware of that fact. 84 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 1: But for some reason I hadn't put it together in 85 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 1: my head that way that like, yeah, the this means that, 86 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: like the Supreme Court's decision on Roe v. Wade had 87 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: kind of a comparable electoral impact to flying two planes 88 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: into a pair of skyscrapers and the Pentagon three plates. 89 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 1: I mean, to be fair whatever, to be fair, the 90 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: Supreme Court have killed like in terms of the immediate impact, 91 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: the Screme Court will have killed more people than that 92 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: by like thurs Day or something. So yeah, the other 93 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: one was was fdos fest made tim right? Uh No, 94 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: the other ones that so I said post World War Two. 95 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 1: The other the other one was when the American electorate 96 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: apparently got so mad at Republicans and pe team Bill 97 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: Clinton that they decided to vote for Democrats in a 98 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: good term. Again, well that's yeah, that's the other thing 99 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: Biden can do if it, if it goes south. It's 100 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: good to know their options. Yeah, but um, I think 101 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 1: non zero chance that'll happen anyway. I mean, I guess 102 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: we're still waiting. Who knows. Yeah, Doc Brandon, I enjoyed, 103 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:32,719 Speaker 1: from from an entertainment perspective, the like three months of 104 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: lucidity that we got out of Joe Biden this year, 105 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: We'll see how many more he has in him. Yeah, 106 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: who knows? So yeah, like it. So you're you're suggesting 107 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: that Dobbs has been like the really pivotal thing here 108 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: in swinging a lot of these close races, right, absolutely, Um, 109 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 1: and Dobbs definitely being the number one factor. Um. Tragically, 110 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 1: because it's very cringe and I wish this hadn't happened. 111 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: The January six investigation does actually seem to have also 112 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: swung several important races. That's I mean, I'm interested in 113 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: your thoughts on this, but I actually I'm I'm glad 114 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: that it mattered that they tried to do a coup, 115 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: and like I'm glad that people cared about that. I'm 116 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: glad it mattered. I just I just think it sucks 117 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: that because the way they went about the investigation was 118 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: so incredibly terrible. Yeah. Um, like Marrick Garland is going 119 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: to go down as like one of the most cowardly 120 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: attorney generals in American history. But um, yeah, It's it's 121 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 1: pretty clear that in a lot of races like the 122 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: the investigation made a difference. I think this is really clear. 123 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:46,679 Speaker 1: If we're getting into like very kind of under the hood. Um, 124 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: Democrats ran the table in competitive state level secretary of 125 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:55,120 Speaker 1: State races, and these are the officials that run elections. UM. 126 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: And not only did Democrats run the table, pretty much 127 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: every single one of those candidates out pre formed the 128 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: top of the ticket. So they outperformed governor and Senate candidates. UM. 129 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: So there are a lot of people. This is another 130 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: big story the midterms is that swing voter. Your swing 131 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: voting is back, not swing voting, I'm sorry, split ticket 132 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: voting is back. Um. There were quite a few, there 133 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: were quite a few millions of voters this year who 134 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: voted for Republican in the Senate or a Republican for 135 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: governor and then a Democrat to run their states actual elections. 136 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: That's kind of good. It's so that's also like speaks 137 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: promisingly of people's engagement with the political system and education 138 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: about it and the awareness of what these different things do. Yes, um, 139 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 1: but other like like that, other than that, but just overall, 140 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: high level dobbs was the big one. Um. There is 141 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: a person whose name I'm going to unfortunately mispronounce, and 142 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 1: that I should have looked up beforehand. So all right, 143 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: this is a safe place for that, Thank you. But 144 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: there's a person there's a guy down in Louisiana named 145 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: John uh cool Van I think is my best guests, 146 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 1: and he is one of the people who makes money 147 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: off of like looking at elections UM, and his big 148 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:15,320 Speaker 1: thing is that you can predict the outcome of elections 149 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 1: just by looking at the nationwide composition of the primary electorate. 150 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: So like, if Republicans turn out more voters in their 151 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 1: primaries and Democrats to Republicans are going to win the 152 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: election and vice versa. This has been true in pretty 153 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: much every single election for the last thirty years or 154 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: so UM, and he unfortunately got led astray UM this 155 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: year because nationwide at the end of the primary season, 156 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: Republicans were up by about like five points, and so 157 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: he was insisting the whole rest of the campaign that 158 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,800 Speaker 1: Republicans are going to win. That's obviously not really what happened. 159 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: But if you look at pre DBS versus post OBS, 160 00:09:56,040 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: the primary elector at post OBS was Democrats plus like 161 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,599 Speaker 1: up by one point. That is the electorate that we 162 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 1: got in the mid terms. So Dobbs set the tone 163 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: of like what the mid terms were going to be UM, 164 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: because we are not going to be legalizing abortion nationwide 165 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: in the next two years because we are going to 166 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: have a Republican House almost certainly, Dobbs is almost definitely 167 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: going to be a huge factor in twenty four as well. 168 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: I mean, and I guess that, like because the question 169 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: I had, and I think a lot of people had 170 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: running into this, especially people who are not election lovers, 171 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: is like, do things matter? Right? Like? It was Dobbs 172 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:43,719 Speaker 1: going to matter? And was the were the constant sort 173 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 1: of Republican assaults on on the ability of people to vote? 174 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: Was the fucking attacks on children's hospitals and on trans 175 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: case and stuff like? Was all of that going to work? Like? 176 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:59,839 Speaker 1: Do do things matter? Still? And? Uh, you know, we 177 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: have to renswer that question. But it does kind of 178 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 1: seem like that's the positive take out from this is 179 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:10,839 Speaker 1: not like, you know, it's it's probably probably too early 180 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: to say are we seeing some sort of grand progressive 181 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 1: swing or are people coming around on Biden or whatever 182 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 1: things politicos want to take. But it does kind of 183 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: seem that, like, on a on a very like ground 184 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: floor level, Uh, it mattered that the Republicans were doing 185 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: awful things, Yes, mattered. Um, I think Christopher and I 186 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: have talked about how, in his words, Leah Thomas cost 187 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: the Michigan Republican Party of the election. Um, let's talk. 188 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: Let's talk about that, because I think a lot of 189 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: people I mean, yeah, let's yeah, let's talk about Okay, 190 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: I'll give them I'll give the meme version of it first. 191 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 1: The meme version of it basically is that there was Okay, 192 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: so there there there was a report released by the 193 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:58,719 Speaker 1: Republican Party in Michigan after the election when they sort 194 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:02,079 Speaker 1: of got hammered. Part of what they're talking about was like, okay, 195 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: so inflation is like seven point seven percent right now, right, 196 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: this is the freest election anyone has ever been handed, 197 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 1: like in human history, Like a child could have won 198 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 1: this election. And the Republicans vanaged to blow it. And 199 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: one of these they talk about this, they spent they 200 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: spent like twenty five million dollars, like specifically on ads 201 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: about trans like trans kids in sports and everybody mission. 202 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: It was just like what the yes, real care not 203 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: just not just blew it, but blew it in a 204 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: way that they haven't blown it in forty years. Because 205 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:42,800 Speaker 1: for the first time in forty years, Democrats will have 206 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: complete control of the Michigan state government. Yeah. Yeah, And 207 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: it's like it's like the other things. It wasn't just 208 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: in Michigan where this happened, right like like quite possibly, 209 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 1: Like one of the ways they're going to lose the 210 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: Senate is because like the Republicans like entire sort of 211 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: apparatus and Nevada was against the Equal Rights Amendments, which 212 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,959 Speaker 1: and specifically they were running against the equal nevented passing 213 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 1: diversity of the Equal Rights Amendment, like specifically on the 214 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:13,400 Speaker 1: grounds of transphobia, and the e ARRA passed by seventeen points. Uh, 215 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 1: and replicants are about to lose that Senate. See, and 216 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: it's just like my mein version of this is that 217 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: the Republican Party ran a platform that is like the 218 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: political equivalent of like a street preacher, right, like that 219 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: that is the constituency for this. It is like they 220 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: unbelievably hate trans people. They like an unbelievably hard line 221 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: anti abortion position, which again like nobody actually likes. And 222 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: you know, it turns out like if if if your 223 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 1: constituency is street preachers, like the thing an average person 224 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: does when they run into a street preacher is walked 225 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,400 Speaker 1: past them, and it turns out that's what happened to 226 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,839 Speaker 1: hear like this and they got, oh, that's that's that's 227 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: the mean version of it. Absolutely, I mean that's not 228 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: just the mean version of it. Is essentially what happened, 229 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,079 Speaker 1: UM in Michigan and Pennsylvania, in all of these states 230 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: where hardline Christian nationalists won Republican primaries, like they went 231 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: down hard um and so as Robert said, yeah, things 232 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 1: actually mattered this election, and that's a good thing. UM. 233 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: And I think I know for me, as like, I 234 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: went into election night very nervous about my own predictions 235 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: because when I put together my um Google spreadsheet that 236 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: will never be shown to any of you because of 237 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: how insane it is. UM. And I was picking, you know, 238 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: I got more races wrong, by the way, by picking 239 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: Republicans to win that Democrats actually won, then the other 240 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: way around, because I kept second guessing myself. It's like 241 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 1: no, no no, no, I'm not I'm being too kind to 242 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: Democrats and then I went too far. But when I 243 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 1: was making those predictions, honestly, I just kept thinking about, like, 244 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: so I'm adopted, my parents are both white, and my 245 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: mom is this like white woman from appalation, Ohio. And 246 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: she is is UM in her upper sixties, so she 247 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: grew up in a world before Roe v. Wade UM. 248 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: And I had never seen my mom so angry about 249 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: anything in politics, and like she was very very angry 250 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 1: when Trump won. UM. She has been very angry. She's 251 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: been very angry about like January six. She's been angry 252 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: about a lot of stuff the last several years, as 253 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: is my dad UM, because they're both very normally Democrats. 254 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: But my mom has never been angrier as far as 255 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: I've seen her than she was angrier about Dobbs. And 256 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: it wasn't just like my mom. I was hearing from 257 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: friends of mine from across the Midwest who also have 258 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 1: like normy white suburban parents, and that was kind of 259 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: the same thing that I was hearing from them too, 260 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: is like, my mom is so upset about this, My 261 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: grandmother is so upset about this. These women who remembered 262 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: what it was like to grow up in a world 263 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: where abortion it was not something that that they had 264 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: access to if they needed it. UM, And that honestly, 265 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's obviously completely anecdotal. It's not databased 266 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: or data driven in any way. But that was just 267 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: what I kept thinking about as I was making predictions 268 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: about how the midterm was gonna go. Was you know, 269 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: I think that these people are angry enough that they 270 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: are not going to care about inflation. They're not going 271 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: to care about the fact that our economy is very 272 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: clearly headed for recession, um, because this is going to 273 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: matter more to them, um, And it did. I kind't 274 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 1: want to move on to talking about what what we 275 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: think this sets us up for because I think the 276 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: clearest and we talked about this a little earlier, but 277 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: sort of the clearest thing that's positive about this is 278 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 1: that we have of fewer state secretaries of state and 279 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 1: state legislatures in the hands of the Republican Party, which 280 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,880 Speaker 1: means more of a chance that like what people actually 281 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:14,920 Speaker 1: vote for is going no matter. Um. Now, we're still 282 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:18,239 Speaker 1: dealing with the judiciary that is as fucked as it 283 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,959 Speaker 1: was prior to the mid terms and probably won't be 284 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: less fucked in a way that is notable, um and aggregate, Yeah, 285 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 1: we can. We can always hope and pray. Yeah. Then 286 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: there could be a couple of very specific car accidents. Yeah, yeah, 287 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: yeah on that point. Actually, so there, I know, I 288 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: bang on about about like how the United States deals 289 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: with its indigenous people a lot, but like that they 290 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: slated and we'll do an episode on it, but we're 291 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 1: trying to do it properly. Like slated for this Supreme 292 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: Court session is to look at AQUA, right, the Indian 293 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: Child Welfare Act, and like the challenge to it, challenges 294 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: on out of the basis of other tribal law and 295 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: in places like Arizona, right, Like, indigenous people are a 296 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: large like often like they're supposed to be like the 297 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 1: swing electorate and for like blue Arizona, so they could 298 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 1: have positive outcomes for for Democrats, it could they could. 299 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: I don't know how they could go out their way 300 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: to this in French trans indigenous people, but they find 301 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: you and exciting ways to do it all the fucking time. 302 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: So like that will be interesting. And one thing I 303 00:18:30,119 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: wanted to raise is like, so I live in California, 304 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: which I think is seen as like the left coast 305 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 1: and stuff, but we have an alarming amount of really 306 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 1: chuggly people going to the house from California, and yeah, 307 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 1: it's becoming increasingly a bit like where like some of 308 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: you live in Oregon, where like you have a very 309 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 1: The far right in California is larger than the population 310 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: of like many United US states. Yeah, yes, and they're 311 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: increasingly big mad about like it's small things, m but yeah, 312 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: Like I'm just looking at the districts around the one 313 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: I'm in, and a number of them have sent like 314 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: anti reproductive rights house representatives back to the House. California 315 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 1: is a state where, um, the Democratic Party likes to 316 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 1: flop its way to victory. It's one of it's one 317 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 1: of the most incompetent state Democratic parties in the country, 318 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 1: which is really saying something because they're competing. They're competing 319 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: with they're competing with Florida. Like, I mean, hey, Oregons 320 00:19:33,640 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: not didn't do great either, Like the state Democratic Party 321 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: in Oregon had the most narrow governor's race in a 322 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: long time, and also the Dems lost their their supermajority 323 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: in the state Congress. They did lose their supermajority, but 324 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: Democrats in Oregon do now have the ability to redistrict again, 325 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: so they can take back that seat that Republicans picked 326 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 1: up because there were is a constitutional amendment that got 327 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: passed by the voters of Oregon that says that if 328 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: Republicans do what they have done in the last few 329 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: years in Oregon, which is walk out of the state 330 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: House any time that a lot of my past they 331 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: get banned for running for re election. But also, like 332 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 1: without the supermajority, I don't know that there's as much 333 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: of any I mean, we'll see what happens. Um, but yeah, 334 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: it's there. As a general rule, it seems like when 335 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: you've got there's no meaningful competition for what party is 336 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: going to be in control of the state. It becomes 337 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: a haven for like the political equivalent of grifters to 338 00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 1: suck in huge salaries and do very little um and yeah, 339 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 1: yeah math, or to just do like star mayor look 340 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: at that may also yeah, and she's up for re 341 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: election in a few months, and we can only hope 342 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: that she that she loses. I can't imagine her winning. 343 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 1: I mean, it could happen, It could happen, It could happen. 344 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: Here here's here's an ad break. Yeah what a professional. Ah, 345 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 1: we're back. And you know what, talking about the mid 346 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:22,439 Speaker 1: term elections makes me feel like doing smoking a cigarette. 347 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: Buy cigarettes, kids, they're is good for you. As democracy. 348 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: All right, we're back in some other interesting news. This 349 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 1: is also the this this Pessiman terms had more lgbt 350 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: Q candidates win office than ever before in a midterm election. 351 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 1: There was a few notable winds uh, specifically with trans 352 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: people in the Midwest actually, which has been probably a 353 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 1: decent side. It's it's a good sign, you know, heroes 354 00:21:56,119 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: are doing good. Yeah, there's been a multiple multiple trans 355 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 1: people and trans uh particularly quite a few trans women 356 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:09,439 Speaker 1: elected to state legislatives across across the Midwest, like in 357 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:26,720 Speaker 1: Montana and inside uh Midwestern I'm calling that out. Yeah, 358 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 1: well Mountain West. See. Well, the thing is I grew 359 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 1: I grew up in Saskatchewan, which is like above Montana, 360 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 1: and whenever you would drive down, we would always stay 361 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 1: in the more Midwest east sections and everyone talks it 362 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:42,720 Speaker 1: felt very Midwest to me because of where I lived 363 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 1: in Saskatchewan. So apology apologies to people who are Montana Mountainers, 364 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: I guess apologies, No, no, we don't need to be 365 00:22:56,160 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: upon So Zoe Zephyr, who testified against anti trans legislation 366 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: previously is now able to vote against it um in Minnesota. 367 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 1: I talk about that, like very briefly, which is that like, Okay, 368 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: there are a lot of queer communities in places that 369 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 1: people just fucking ignore. Absolutely, it's just can you cannot 370 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: discount these places? Yeah, it's like Missoula specifically has has 371 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: a like like pretty substantive queer community. They do good ship, 372 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: they're out there like they're like there's there's this sort 373 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: of tendency I think to like like look at like 374 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: a state and go like, oh, it's a red state, 375 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 1: like there's whatever. They're just fleeing, and it's like it's 376 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 1: not true, Like there there are a lot of people 377 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: who are like have for many years been building a 378 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: community there and hanging aucenaciously and building it. And also 379 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: in Missoula, people take notice. Also in Missoula, the first 380 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 1: non binary candidate was elected in UH s J. Howell, 381 00:23:55,720 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 1: So tou to trans people. It's elected there in in 382 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 1: uh in Missoula. But the way did did did Missoula, 383 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: Missoula do this? Portland? Probably Portland's like city councils like 384 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: four people. Yeah that's true, yeah, entirely. Yeah, and it 385 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 1: swung and it's pretty conservative that this past election. Actually, um, 386 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 1: but we also had in Minnesota, uh lay a think 387 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: because the first transperson in state lets legislator and in 388 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,920 Speaker 1: New Hampshire, Uh, they elected the first transman to a 389 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 1: US state House. So yeah, and and the other other 390 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: good thing is um Arizona got a Democratic governor, which 391 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:45,360 Speaker 1: means a whole bunch of potential legislation will probably not 392 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 1: get signed on because Arizona did have some pretty pretty 393 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: pretty bad anti trans station to come up in the 394 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,679 Speaker 1: past few years. I also want to talk about So 395 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: the Arizona election was critical, not just because it's amazing 396 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,199 Speaker 1: that fucking carry La is not going to be governor 397 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: because she is an election denying google Um, but the 398 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 1: nicest thing Blake Masters might be the scariest person who 399 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 1: was running for a life. He is. He is the 400 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 1: scariest serial killer. Yeah, yeah, yeah he was. He was 401 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 1: scary until he was funny, is the thing, because like I, 402 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: you know, when they failed, they're always funny. Yeah. But 403 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: Christopher and I were talking about this before the podcast, 404 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: and like during the during the final debate between Blake 405 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 1: Masters and Mark Kelly, like and I just swear on 406 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 1: this podcast, like we're allowed to say whatever the hell 407 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: we want perfect Um debate. In their final debate between 408 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,680 Speaker 1: Mark Kelly and Blake Masters, Mark Kelly's like final statement, 409 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 1: his conclusion argument was essentially pointing at Blake Masters and going, 410 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: look at this fucking freak. Yeah, yeah, it was great 411 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 1: it which is the which is one of the most 412 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 1: powerful things he could do in politics because he was 413 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: just like, like the specific thing he did, because his 414 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: language was was I think a lot more nuanced than that, 415 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: because what he was saying is Blake Masters. For those 416 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: of you who don't don't know, like one of the 417 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: most like famous moments of this campaign is he he 418 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,640 Speaker 1: put out a campaign ad that was just him parking 419 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 1: in the desert with a silenced handgun, mentioning which is 420 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 1: a child's gun, first off, but anyway, mentioning twice that 421 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: the gun was German and like German, rested and then 422 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:44,439 Speaker 1: firing it blindly at nothing. And then the ad he 423 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:49,200 Speaker 1: fired it across the lake. Don't see him shoot at something, 424 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 1: We don't see him hit a target. He is his 425 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,880 Speaker 1: stances dogs anyway, But it's just him taking a silence 426 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: pistol out repeatedly mentioning that the gun is German, firing it, 427 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 1: and the ad ends that's the whole a seconds of 428 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 1: him just fondling and badly shooting it. It's worth giving 429 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: the context that the person he's running against is someone 430 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: whose wife was shot in the head. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, 431 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:23,399 Speaker 1: because so that's but it's also just like, look, guns 432 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,399 Speaker 1: are a big part of American life. A lot of 433 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: politicians have, including Democrats, have ads that involved guns, and 434 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: usually it's like here is me hunting, you know, or 435 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 1: even like here is me the range with friends, engaging 436 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,239 Speaker 1: in a thing that many Americans do. Masters was just 437 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:43,720 Speaker 1: blindly shooting a twenty two caliber handgun after immediately mentioning 438 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:47,360 Speaker 1: that it's German. It was like someone showed an alien, 439 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 1: like a regular campaign ad someone shooting a gun, and 440 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,680 Speaker 1: then yes, I mean it's funny that that's the term 441 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 1: that you use, because that was a term that was 442 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: flying around like Arizona social media the entire campaign. It 443 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 1: was like Blake Bastard's looks like an alien and you 444 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 1: get pumped with Peter Tiel money for so so he 445 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 1: has this and he has a couple of others like 446 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: he is, he is on he's a number one. He 447 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,800 Speaker 1: worked with Peter Teele for years. Um, he's doing all 448 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 1: sorts of fucking gohoule ship on Twitter, like really mask off, fascist, unhinged, shit. 449 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,920 Speaker 1: And Mark Kelly in the debate, isn't just like, look 450 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 1: at this freak. He's like, hey, we all know guys 451 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: like this talk about how dangerous and how scary they are, 452 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 1: but they they've never done anything. They're just like weirdos 453 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: trying to scare you so that you'll think that they're 454 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: they're powerful, and like, don't don't fall forward it And 455 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: it was perfect and the good news is that Arizona 456 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: voters did not fall for it because you know, not 457 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 1: only did Blake Masters lose by the best performing Republicans 458 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 1: in Arizona where their House candidates, like the statewide house 459 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: pular vote for the for U. S Congress, not the 460 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: statehouse was I think Republicans want it, are going to 461 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 1: win it by like five. So Cary Lake already drastically 462 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 1: underperformed that by six because she's gonna lose. And then 463 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 1: to Blake Masters underperformed his House candidates by like ten 464 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 1: or eleven. Unbelievable. It's it's I mean it. It really 465 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: goes to show that whatever most Americans want, they don't 466 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: want a fucking weirdo fascist freak threatening. Uh there an 467 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: astronaut's wife with a gun. Yeah, really briefly, like also 468 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: like on this note, of all of the queer and 469 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: trans candidates who won, um, I will point out this 470 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: follows the pattern that has taken shape in the last decade, 471 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: which is that these supposedly well not supposedly they are, 472 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: but like these red and purple states in the South 473 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: and the Midwest are sending queer and trans people into 474 00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 1: the hall of power a lot faster than deep blue 475 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: states on the West coast and in the Northeast. The 476 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: first non unfortunately forget their name, but the first non 477 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: binary state legislator in the country was elected in Oklahoma. 478 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: And they're not only non binary, they are black and 479 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: Muslim non binary. UM. So it's like, you know, these um, 480 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 1: these communities as Christophers, like a, these communities do matter, 481 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: and we can't forget about them, we can't abandon them. 482 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: But also like not just they matter, but like, as 483 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: I will happily argue, with any political operative from either coast, 484 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 1: we are much more likely to see some kind of 485 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 1: progressive resurgeons resurgeons in this country led by candidates out 486 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 1: of the South or Midwest than either yeah, yeah, well 487 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: and like like look at like this is one of 488 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: the everythings that that you know, So I have a 489 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 1: lot of friends in the like Michigan teachers Union, right, 490 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 1: and you know, like right right now, what is happening 491 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: in the Michigan Like in Michigan is that the teachers 492 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 1: Union is literally sending lists of laws like to to 493 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 1: the governor that are like you need to get rid 494 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 1: of this. And you know, if you like if even 495 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: if you look at like like almost every other Democratic 496 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: Party like in the country is just constantly at word 497 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: their teachers unions, and you know, and then you look 498 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 1: at like you look at what's happening in Wisconsin, and 499 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:27,479 Speaker 1: it's like, like, what's happening in Michigan. Wells also Wisconsin too, 500 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: with like they have a much more labor friendly like 501 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: the Democratic Party even like fucking San Francisco or like 502 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: the ghouls in like like honestly the ghouls in the 503 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: Chicago machine, right Eric Adams office. Yeah, right, Like there's 504 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: there's there's I don't know, they're like everybody doors the 505 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: Midwest and we're here, damn it, and we do good things. 506 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: Well it's a little bit like I mean, it's a 507 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 1: little bit of what we were saying earlier that like 508 00:31:54,600 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: when you've got these states where because of the population layout, 509 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: the Democratic Party doesn't have to struggle to actually win 510 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: for the most part, you're a hell of a lot. 511 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 1: Number one, the party becomes effectively a cartel, so they're 512 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 1: very good at stopping any like upstart, young progressive, non binary, 513 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: queer trans people from like getting a hold on in 514 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: local politics. You know, we we just had the most 515 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: progressive member of the Portland City Council ousted by corporate 516 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 1: business interests UM and you know it, which is very 517 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: different from the trend that you're seeing in places like Montana, 518 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: places like Oklahoma with a lot of these very progressive, 519 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 1: you know, young candidates. And it's because um number one, 520 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: maybe the state parties are a little more willing to 521 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: throw a hail Mary. But also, just like those individual people, 522 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: the people running in the folks doing their campaign have 523 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: had to be a lot harder and a lot smarter 524 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: to survive surrounded by people who hate them. And I 525 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: think also like there's one of the ways that I 526 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 1: was pretty sure that this wasn't going to be a 527 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 1: read tsunami was so I have some friends, I have 528 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,959 Speaker 1: friends who go to Wheaton College, and for people who 529 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: don't know who what Wheaton College is. It is like 530 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 1: we're sorry that we're about to inform you. Yeah. So 531 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 1: Wheaton College is one of like I don't know, maybe 532 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: the second behind like Graham Young like most right, we 533 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 1: can evangelical college in the US, like they they famous. 534 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 1: It's it's not as bad as the Liberty Yeah, yeah, 535 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: it's like number three, right, but like so it's it's 536 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: it's this is this is like the the intellectual center 537 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 1: of um like of sort of evangelical politics, like make 538 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 1: sure I have this right, yeah, Like Billy Graham's family 539 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 1: has funneled money into wheat In College for decades. In 540 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: two days now and okay, so like Wheaton is a 541 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 1: like broadly beking like a fucking ferociously hostile place to 542 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: be anything other than a like assist head white person. Right, 543 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:01,440 Speaker 1: it is like unbelievably homophobic. It is really anti semitic. 544 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 1: And like a few months ago, I was walking like 545 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:12,840 Speaker 1: through Wheaton downtown to visit a front and in the 546 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 1: middle of fucking Wheaton Downtown, they're they're they're like there 547 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: there there was someone who on in there in there 548 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,320 Speaker 1: like fucking lawn had had like had a giant Pride 549 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:24,640 Speaker 1: flag and like it wasn't like it was like it 550 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: was like the it was the like the Brown Pride 551 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:32,280 Speaker 1: flag too, right, Like that was like even like five 552 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 1: years ago, that would have been unimaginable, Like you would 553 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: have been like you would have been fucking chased out 554 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 1: of town by a bob. Like and it's it's just 555 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 1: there now, and I don't know, like they haven't been 556 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: run out. It's still there. No, it's literally yes everything 557 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: that Christopher just said. And you know, these are people 558 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 1: that Christopher, Christopher and I grew up with, like we 559 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 1: literally I was there was a granddaughter of Billy Graham 560 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 1: in my high school class. Um. And I think, you know, 561 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 1: as much as you know, these people are not going 562 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 1: to be socialists or progressive as anytime soon. They are 563 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: very much like normy moderate Democrats now. But there were 564 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 1: a lot of suburban white people who got very turned 565 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:16,959 Speaker 1: off by Trump for the Republican Party. And I think 566 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 1: this mid term is the confirmation that, barring you know, 567 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 1: some kind of economic catastrophe that always always throws elections 568 00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 1: to the out of power party, Uh, these Norman white 569 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:35,400 Speaker 1: suburban nights are not going back. Uh. And we you know, 570 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:39,360 Speaker 1: when you look at trends across the country. Um you 571 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,759 Speaker 1: know JB. Printker one do Page County, which is the 572 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: county that Wheaton is in, which is like you know 573 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 1: this is this yeah, like this used to be within 574 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: Christopher and I his lifetimes. This used to be a 575 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 1: county that Republicans banked on getting three hundred thousand votes 576 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: out of on a statewide margin level. Um and now 577 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,799 Speaker 1: it's being one up and down by Democrats. Like Democrats 578 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 1: flipped the county executive office in du Page County this year. 579 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,320 Speaker 1: Um So, like Chicago suburbs are trending are continuing to 580 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 1: trend left, Atlanta suburbs are continuing to trend left. Uh 581 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 1: the like Raleigh Durham area in North Carolina is trending left. 582 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 1: The Texas urban areas are trending left. And this isn't 583 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 1: just like in comparison to twenty six. This is in 584 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,800 Speaker 1: comparison to two years ago, which was a democratic environment. 585 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,800 Speaker 1: Um So, the fact that these counties are swinging left 586 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 1: in a year where the country, even though the overall 587 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:38,839 Speaker 1: results were fined, the country definitely swung right, like these 588 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 1: people are not going back. And not just that these 589 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 1: people are not going back, but the ones who are 590 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 1: staying Republicans A. They're moving, they're leaving the suburbs and 591 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:52,320 Speaker 1: they're establishing their little new white flight outposts in other places. Um. 592 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 1: And the people who are replacing them are largely people 593 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 1: of color. Like the suburbs today in America are sixty 594 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 1: percent white as compared to in the year two thousand 595 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:04,879 Speaker 1: when they were something like percent white. UM. So this 596 00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 1: is I think this year was the confirmation we needed 597 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:09,919 Speaker 1: that this is a permanent trend that the suburbs from 598 00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,800 Speaker 1: now on are either going to be a wash or 599 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 1: even frankly just democratic places where Democrats will net votes. 600 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 1: And this is all. There still is a lot of fear, 601 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:24,320 Speaker 1: and there's still is reason to be very concerned about 602 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 1: the ability of the GOP's power to push things in 603 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:31,320 Speaker 1: a revancheus direction, in an anti democratic election, to remove 604 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 1: the ability of people because that that is you know, 605 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:34,880 Speaker 1: we're seeing them talk right now. We're seeing guys like 606 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 1: Matt Walsh, Christopher Rufo talk right now about the need 607 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,439 Speaker 1: to like stop young people from voting, to crack down 608 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 1: on mail voting. Like this is not not to say 609 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,480 Speaker 1: like all right, it's all done, um, but this is 610 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 1: like I guess the thing that's that's optimistic about this 611 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 1: overall is that it is um it's evidence that the 612 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:03,360 Speaker 1: the there there was this kind of open question after 613 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:08,839 Speaker 1: Trump won in UM and if one thing you could 614 00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:10,840 Speaker 1: look at, you could look at, you could look at 615 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,839 Speaker 1: two and go like, well, clearly the trend since then 616 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 1: has been for the GOP to lose big in most 617 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 1: of these elections. But that was also anything but clear, 618 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,919 Speaker 1: kind of as a result of the way COVID fuck 619 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 1: things up. And this this does seem to like submit 620 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 1: that that like, yeah, it may it may have in 621 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:35,840 Speaker 1: the long run proved to be a major, major tactical 622 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 1: failure to to have gone for this guy the way 623 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:40,799 Speaker 1: that they did. Oh yeah, I mean, and we can 624 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:45,560 Speaker 1: only hope. I mean, I personally, from an entertainment factor, 625 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 1: cannot wait for the the Santa's versus Trump primary. Um, 626 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 1: I will be I will be rooting for Trump because 627 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 1: he is funnier online. Um. And also I don't think 628 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,719 Speaker 1: it would make a substance of difference, uh in whether 629 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 1: or not like who would be the nominee, because the 630 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 1: Santis is just Trump without the charisma. Um. But I think, yeah, hopefully, 631 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 1: like we saw the Republican party pay a price this 632 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 1: year for arguably the first time in a long time 633 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 1: for their insanity. Um and it's good to see that 634 00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,160 Speaker 1: that happened. Hopefully it will happen again. And I will 635 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 1: also note for anyone listening, who does you know, you 636 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 1: care about elections, you want to get involved somewhere. The 637 00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:35,319 Speaker 1: next somewhere for you to get involved in is the 638 00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 1: state of Wisconsin, where the there is a state Supreme 639 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:43,560 Speaker 1: Court seat up for election in April. If Democrats win 640 00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:46,799 Speaker 1: that seat, they will flip the Supreme Court in Wisconsin, 641 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 1: and that means that the absolutely insane Republican jerry managers 642 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 1: in that state, which pretty much render the state of 643 00:39:56,120 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 1: Wisconsin a non democracy, will likely get over charged if 644 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,839 Speaker 1: Democrats are able to flip the Wisconsin Supreme Court, which 645 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,600 Speaker 1: would mean a lot of good things could happen for 646 00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:19,760 Speaker 1: a lot of people who live in that state. Okay, 647 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 1: there is one other thing that is like basically umbul 648 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 1: agist I don't want to touch on before we blows up, 649 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,440 Speaker 1: which is that the extent to which the Republicans have 650 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 1: sort of entered chaos mode now a with with Trump 651 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,440 Speaker 1: just sort of like going off on the Santis and 652 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:40,440 Speaker 1: like the Remolican civil war happening. And then secondly, because 653 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 1: they seem it looks like they've gotten the chaos mode 654 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 1: configuration of their House majority. Yes, Um, any anyone who 655 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 1: pays attention to Congress, I would encourage you to get very, 656 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:59,000 Speaker 1: very familiar with the term discharged petition, which is a 657 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,360 Speaker 1: mechanism by which if you have a majority of the 658 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 1: House is willing to sign a piece of paper that 659 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,279 Speaker 1: says we should put this bill on the floor no 660 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 1: matter what. It goes to the floor, no matter what. Um. 661 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:14,520 Speaker 1: And I think you're probably going to see Democrats successfully 662 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,480 Speaker 1: put a lot of bills on the House floor in 663 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,799 Speaker 1: the next two years because they're gonna get They're going 664 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 1: to pick off the Republican moderates in the northeast to 665 00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 1: sign these these pieces of paper. We should I think 666 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 1: we should explain what exactly Republican position looks like because 667 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:34,720 Speaker 1: it's oh sure, so, UM, it's so. I I should 668 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,439 Speaker 1: caveat this with the statement that there is still like 669 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,720 Speaker 1: I would say, a five percent chance that Democrats managed 670 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 1: to scrap, like scrape their way to a one seat majority. Um, 671 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 1: it's not likely by any means, but like it is 672 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 1: still theoretically on the table, mostly because Lauren Bobert managed 673 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 1: to put herself into position where she might actually lose. 674 00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:03,480 Speaker 1: UM and but default modal outcome I would say is 675 00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:07,239 Speaker 1: Republicans end up with a three or four House seat majority. 676 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,920 Speaker 1: Uh in. But what that means is that UHL, we 677 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 1: get Calvin Ball for the next two years, essentially because 678 00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:20,560 Speaker 1: Kevin McCarthy as a person, UM is well a he's 679 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,920 Speaker 1: like very unintelligent in general. And this is like a 680 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,840 Speaker 1: very common sentiment that you will run into uh in 681 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 1: people who pay attention to Congress. He is not personally 682 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 1: capable of managing a House majority of four. This is 683 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,359 Speaker 1: so widely accepted that Nancy Pelosi was willing to go 684 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,920 Speaker 1: on the record in an interview the other day saying 685 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:44,960 Speaker 1: that UM and so who knows Kevin McCarthy made not 686 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,319 Speaker 1: even end up being the speaker. We may not have 687 00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:50,799 Speaker 1: a speaker until March because no one would get two 688 00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:55,200 Speaker 1: and eighteen votes. Um. But whoever has that job, whatever 689 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 1: Republican has that job, it is going to be the 690 00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,760 Speaker 1: most thankless job of their life that they will suffer 691 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 1: through for the next two years. Because you know, the 692 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 1: the pundit class and political operatives love to talk about 693 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,920 Speaker 1: how ideologically diverse the Democratic Party is in the House, 694 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 1: and it's true because like on the left wing end 695 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 1: of the of the caucus you have people like Rashida 696 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,200 Speaker 1: Slab and Ellen Omar, and the right wing end you 697 00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:22,000 Speaker 1: have people like Henry quay Are, who tragically survived his 698 00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:27,000 Speaker 1: primary this year. UM. But I think it has gone 699 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:31,520 Speaker 1: under the radar that Republicans in the House are arguably 700 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:36,960 Speaker 1: more ideologically diverse than Democrats are because the moderates, the 701 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:41,400 Speaker 1: moderate Republicans in the House are like your very standard 702 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:45,480 Speaker 1: like socially liberal, fiscally conservative types that were very popular 703 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,239 Speaker 1: and like two thousand ten, UM, Like you have like 704 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:51,879 Speaker 1: some of these Northeastern Republicans who are were more than 705 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,399 Speaker 1: happy to vote for same sex marriage, though they would 706 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:59,239 Speaker 1: probably vote for uh like to quodeafy Row, they would 707 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:04,680 Speaker 1: probably vote to codify birth control legal like reality. And 708 00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 1: on the other end you have Marjorie Taylor Green and 709 00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:13,680 Speaker 1: like if MT yeah, if if there is a person 710 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 1: on this earth who is capable of managing that caucus, UM, 711 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 1: I don't know who they are. I don't think anyone 712 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,760 Speaker 1: knows who they are. UM. And I think that the 713 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:26,399 Speaker 1: smartest thing that that person could do is, um not 714 00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,760 Speaker 1: take the job and let someone else take the fall 715 00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,360 Speaker 1: for what is going to be two years of chaos 716 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,399 Speaker 1: that will most likely hurt the Republican brand a lot 717 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:37,799 Speaker 1: in the next two years. Yeah. That that's like one 718 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,719 Speaker 1: of the things that actually makes me like slightly optimistic 719 00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:47,200 Speaker 1: is that like the Republican Party like is it is 720 00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,480 Speaker 1: it like a first coalition and it had been being 721 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:55,160 Speaker 1: held together sort of like by Trump and now Trump's 722 00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:59,399 Speaker 1: not on Twitter anymore and Twitter may not exist by 723 00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:04,279 Speaker 1: like the time need be speaker. Well, it's also I 724 00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,440 Speaker 1: think I might add Chris, it's not just by Trump. 725 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,000 Speaker 1: And a part of why Trump was able to get 726 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:11,960 Speaker 1: the position did is it's it's a mix of Trump 727 00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:15,240 Speaker 1: and owning the Libs, right, Like that's that's a huge 728 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,320 Speaker 1: part of why the most visible members of this caucus 729 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,240 Speaker 1: are where they are. Like, there's no there's no Marjorie 730 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:26,280 Speaker 1: Taylor Green right without the way that particular social reinforcement 731 00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:32,520 Speaker 1: pattern works. And um yeah, I think that like that's 732 00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,759 Speaker 1: not like number one. If Twitter goes away, which could 733 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:37,640 Speaker 1: have happened by the time you listen to this episode, 734 00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,080 Speaker 1: that really gets gets in the way of their ability 735 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,760 Speaker 1: to own the Libs. But also if they're just getting 736 00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,640 Speaker 1: their asses kicked up and down the country, they're they're 737 00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:49,680 Speaker 1: no longer owning the Libs. The Libs have not been owned, No, 738 00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:53,200 Speaker 1: they have not. And I think the other, you know, 739 00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:57,840 Speaker 1: the other consideration here is that, um, we like to 740 00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,239 Speaker 1: talk a lot in this country because it's true about 741 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:04,640 Speaker 1: neither party ever puts forth a substance of policy agenda. Um. 742 00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,480 Speaker 1: And there are a lot of Republican political operatives who 743 00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,640 Speaker 1: are running around right now complaining and saying that Republicans 744 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,200 Speaker 1: lost because they failed to offer a viable alternative. Except 745 00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:16,600 Speaker 1: that's not true. Republicans did offer a policy agenda in 746 00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,879 Speaker 1: this mid term and that policy agenda was Christian nationalism, 747 00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,640 Speaker 1: and American voters took one look at that and said, 748 00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:26,200 Speaker 1: are you fucking for real? Yeah, like that that's the 749 00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:29,279 Speaker 1: that's the thing that like everyone like like people like 750 00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,200 Speaker 1: all the fucking New York Times calumn this, like people 751 00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,880 Speaker 1: don't understand that. Like there's maybe thirty percent of the 752 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:40,120 Speaker 1: population who actually likes that ship, and everyone else in 753 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:45,200 Speaker 1: the country is like, what the fuck? And you know, 754 00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:50,080 Speaker 1: and but but you know, like the like the the 755 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:53,839 Speaker 1: the actual sort of median person in the US is 756 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,520 Speaker 1: so much less like that than the median person that 757 00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,719 Speaker 1: every pundit imagines that like the version of reality that 758 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,000 Speaker 1: exist since sort of like the minds of the media class, 759 00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:08,080 Speaker 1: like it's not yeah, they've they've, they've they've created incredible 760 00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,600 Speaker 1: sand castles in their mind. Now the tides like washing 761 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,120 Speaker 1: them away. I don't know if the tides washing them away. 762 00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,440 Speaker 1: I think we we can. We can only hope that 763 00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,680 Speaker 1: The New York Times gets washed out to see But 764 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:23,920 Speaker 1: I think you know, I sorry, go for it, no, no, no, please. 765 00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,400 Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, like, you know, obviously, the 766 00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,600 Speaker 1: next two years are going to be the next two years, 767 00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,719 Speaker 1: um and no one can predict the future. Anyone who 768 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,360 Speaker 1: anyone who tells you and literally the next eighteen months 769 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,160 Speaker 1: that they know how the two elections are going to 770 00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,759 Speaker 1: go is lying to you, and you should block them 771 00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:46,080 Speaker 1: and perhaps to report them to like whatever like non 772 00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,920 Speaker 1: retributed forms of authority exists in your local area. But 773 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:55,279 Speaker 1: um my, you know, based on how this went, if 774 00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,520 Speaker 1: the same trends play out for the next two years, 775 00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:02,640 Speaker 1: which would be suburb continue swinging left Democrats continue to 776 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:06,400 Speaker 1: rack up problems with minority voters, but like not to 777 00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:11,640 Speaker 1: the extent that we're gonna lose urban seats anytime soon. Um, 778 00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,680 Speaker 1: and Republicans continue racking up margins in the states and 779 00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:16,960 Speaker 1: like the seats that they're already winning by eighty points, 780 00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,080 Speaker 1: which helps them on a statewide level but does not 781 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:22,120 Speaker 1: help them in the U. S. House. My I would say, like, 782 00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:26,920 Speaker 1: assuming the current trends continue the trends we've had since sixteen, UM, 783 00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,520 Speaker 1: that would mean Democrats flip back the House in two 784 00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,360 Speaker 1: thousand twenty four. Uh. It would also mean that we 785 00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,520 Speaker 1: are once again in like the fight of our lives 786 00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:37,919 Speaker 1: for the Senate, as we likely will be for every 787 00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:40,200 Speaker 1: single cycle for the next ten years. So you know, 788 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,840 Speaker 1: just kind of get used to that, um while you 789 00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:46,520 Speaker 1: can when you have the breather. UM. But yeah, like, 790 00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:51,279 Speaker 1: we had an okay mid term that was literally a 791 00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:54,000 Speaker 1: year ago looking like it was going to be possibly 792 00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:58,360 Speaker 1: the worst midterm wipe out, possibly the end of the 793 00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:06,799 Speaker 1: Republics literally literally yea literally, UM, so it might be good. 794 00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:09,640 Speaker 1: I think the responsible thing to do now is to 795 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:13,320 Speaker 1: close out by each giving one of our unhinged predictions 796 00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:17,240 Speaker 1: for what we're gonna see in and I'm going to start. 797 00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:21,360 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna see Musk and McConaughey via for 798 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,959 Speaker 1: the governor of Texas once Greg Abbott is forced out 799 00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:29,080 Speaker 1: god from a sex scandal. Um, that's my that's my call, 800 00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:34,040 Speaker 1: proved to me. Show show when when when it happens? Everybody? 801 00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:38,840 Speaker 1: Everybody alowe me? Yeah, some some French fries. Oh god, 802 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:44,200 Speaker 1: it's gonna happen. Calling it now tom Brady, I reckon, 803 00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,920 Speaker 1: Tom Brady is gonna tom Brady's gonna take a swing 804 00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:51,880 Speaker 1: at it at Texas. No one of those states up 805 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:56,399 Speaker 1: in where it's called marine at the time. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 806 00:49:56,680 --> 00:50:01,440 Speaker 1: I assume he's from, broadly speaking, it Ay to Wisconsin. 807 00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:06,000 Speaker 1: He is, he would be running in New England. Please 808 00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,719 Speaker 1: do not pin that on us. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, bro, 809 00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,160 Speaker 1: but no that kind of cold, like yeah, just just gray, 810 00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:15,200 Speaker 1: not like like miserable cold like you will have the Yeah, 811 00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:16,960 Speaker 1: tom Brady running in a place where you can't grow 812 00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:20,359 Speaker 1: tomatoes is yeah, it's my prediction. That feels good. After 813 00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:26,960 Speaker 1: his massive success selling the hit crypto platform f t X. 814 00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:32,200 Speaker 1: What what can't Tom Brady do? Who knows? Don't don't 815 00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:35,040 Speaker 1: ask that wuldn't put that out there win games for 816 00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:40,160 Speaker 1: the bucketeers. Yeah, yeah in Germany. Yeah, survive eating what 817 00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:45,400 Speaker 1: any normal human being would eat on a given day. Garrison. 818 00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:49,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't. I don't care about this 819 00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:52,600 Speaker 1: type of thing very much. The perfect reason to make 820 00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:56,360 Speaker 1: prediction unhinged prediction. I don't know. I think one of 821 00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,000 Speaker 1: the funniest things is that earlier this year there's this 822 00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:02,480 Speaker 1: big bit quin account who said that if things continue, 823 00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,719 Speaker 1: bit coin is going to be a major factor in 824 00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:15,759 Speaker 1: the mid terms, which is so not wrong. So I'm 825 00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:20,960 Speaker 1: saying that, what's the what's what's an even dember cryptocurrency? Um? 826 00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,399 Speaker 1: I was thinking of? I was thinking of, does coin 827 00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:32,560 Speaker 1: is gonna be a significant factor in election? Yeah? Uh? 828 00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,960 Speaker 1: Mine is that? Mine is that? Okay, Pritzker is going 829 00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:41,120 Speaker 1: to bring back like the old school democratic machine, and 830 00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,800 Speaker 1: by bye bye is gonna fall out a window like 831 00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:47,239 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris. He's going to sort of like turn up 832 00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,359 Speaker 1: like they're going to drain a damn in thirty years 833 00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:54,439 Speaker 1: and find her body and it's going to run again. Yeah, 834 00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:57,800 Speaker 1: he won't because he will have fallen out of a building. 835 00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:05,759 Speaker 1: Then near the end of the about Christmas, that's your 836 00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:07,920 Speaker 1: prediction that Joe Biden will fall out of a window 837 00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:15,160 Speaker 1: the fourth Comtration of Prague. Like we we we all 838 00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,600 Speaker 1: think that like the sort of like threat, like the 839 00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:20,640 Speaker 1: threat to bourgeois democracy comes come comes from the Republicans. 840 00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,280 Speaker 1: It's not. It's Pritzker. Pritsker is gonna cu the fucking 841 00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:26,160 Speaker 1: country and probably sixty percent of the population is going 842 00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:28,200 Speaker 1: to be completely on board because he's going to be 843 00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:30,959 Speaker 1: less insane than like everyone that's been like in charge 844 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,560 Speaker 1: of this country for the last fifty years. And you 845 00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:40,200 Speaker 1: know who's gonna save democracy? Then okay, m yeah, Okay. 846 00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,200 Speaker 1: That leaves me what is my unhinted prediction. I don't 847 00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:47,160 Speaker 1: think I'm gonna top christophers prediction about JP prints ker Um. 848 00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,480 Speaker 1: You know. I think my unhinted prediction will be that 849 00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,680 Speaker 1: Taylor Swift runs for Senate in Tennessee. Oh god, oh 850 00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:59,879 Speaker 1: she could do it. Yeah, yeah, don't don't look. It's 851 00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,560 Speaker 1: if she brings on, if she brings on the head 852 00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:05,320 Speaker 1: of her fan club who went to jail in Israel 853 00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:09,120 Speaker 1: for refusing to serve the idea, I think they actually 854 00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:13,200 Speaker 1: might get some progressive Yeah, that may have been untrue. Sadly, 855 00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:18,560 Speaker 1: the swifty refuge. But maybe, really, really, why why did 856 00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:20,719 Speaker 1: you even introducing that? Why? Why would you? Why would 857 00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,960 Speaker 1: you say that to me? Yeah, because not all these 858 00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,880 Speaker 1: beautiful things we believe it could be true, but Taylor 859 00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:30,160 Speaker 1: Swift running for Tennessee, she would almost certainly be better 860 00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:34,120 Speaker 1: than whoever is a Tennessee senator now right, Yeah, it's 861 00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:38,440 Speaker 1: now Colonel Sanders or someone basically the same as Colonel Sanders. 862 00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:43,280 Speaker 1: I imagine that's Kentucky. Yeah, come on, come on, British 863 00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:49,120 Speaker 1: is Kentucky. It's called Kentucky fried Chicken. James, that was 864 00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:56,640 Speaker 1: that was basically a slur. I there is a type 865 00:53:56,640 --> 00:54:00,640 Speaker 1: of guy epitomized by Colonel Sanders, who also pies all 866 00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:04,080 Speaker 1: the Senate seat south to the Mason Dixon line. That's 867 00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:07,399 Speaker 1: not true. That's that's my that's my stunt, and I'm 868 00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:10,560 Speaker 1: sticking to it. I am pushing back on this. Well, 869 00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:15,879 Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch a fog horn leghorn video because that's 870 00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,400 Speaker 1: that's who I'm thinking of now, James, all right, everybody 871 00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:24,120 Speaker 1: that's been the episode, m hm, go vote Swift, Yeah, 872 00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:27,080 Speaker 1: vote another couple of times. Just make sure, yeah, this 873 00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:31,440 Speaker 1: looks the old Chicago model. Vote early vote often pay 874 00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:35,120 Speaker 1: for pay for a few meals. Everyone go to Colorado 875 00:54:35,480 --> 00:54:39,000 Speaker 1: and vote against lor Yes, literally seven of you or 876 00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:42,239 Speaker 1: whatever constwing this. Let move to Colorado. We can't deal 877 00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:45,280 Speaker 1: with her ship anymore. Fund raise in order to purchase 878 00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:49,520 Speaker 1: a huge number of drones and drop ballots over wherever 879 00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:55,479 Speaker 1: it is in Colorado. They count votes. I assume Denver, Yeah, 880 00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:59,719 Speaker 1: Blanke at Denver in your ballots, and stop listening to 881 00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:06,520 Speaker 1: pe podcasts. It could Happen here as a production of 882 00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:09,520 Speaker 1: cool Zone Media. 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