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Speaker 1: The One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health. We're back.

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Speaker 2: It's Tuesday. It's One Bill's Live. It's Chris Brown and

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Speaker 2: Steve Tasker back together after a lengthy hiatus. It will

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Speaker 2: only be short lived because I'm out of here after

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Speaker 2: today for another couple of days off.

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Speaker 1: The rest of the week, it'll be me one and

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Speaker 1: done this we edit.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, it's fine. It's that time of the

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Speaker 3: year which is quickly running out.

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Speaker 1: I've got like one or two more days. I'm taking

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Speaker 1: one or two in training camp, and then I have

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Speaker 1: a nephew that's getting married in November. Yeah, I might

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Speaker 1: need a day other than that. Man, it's all hands

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Speaker 1: on deck once training camp start.

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Speaker 3: We're inching ever closer.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: We're about two weeks out from a report day for

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Speaker 2: training camp.

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Speaker 1: They report on the Tuesday, the twenty third, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: practice starts Wednesday, and we'll be we'll be there. Are

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Speaker 1: we there at the twenty.

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Speaker 3: Third, We'll be there. First show on the twenty fourth.

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Speaker 1: Day, first day of practice. Yeah, So that Wednesday, the

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Speaker 1: twenty fourth, we're gonna start from Saint John Fisher and

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Speaker 1: we'll do just about every weekday that they're in practicing,

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Speaker 1: we'll be there, like the day before games. We may

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Speaker 1: be doing the show back here, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And a lot of times they just have a

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Speaker 2: closed walk through anyway the day before a game, right,

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Speaker 2: So yeah, that's usually not an issue.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, it'll be great. The weather's been unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: Gosh, although I heard that we're supposed to get slapped

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Speaker 2: by the remnants of Hurricane Beryl tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: But Beryl who b Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Come on, man, this is what happens when you leave

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Speaker 2: name assignments to meteorologists.

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Speaker 1: Anybody better than B E R why y L? I

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Speaker 1: don't get you gotta dig deep for that.

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Speaker 2: I know they have a way in which they assign

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Speaker 2: the names in alphabetical order, because sometimes they alternate female

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Speaker 2: names or something.

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Speaker 1: Well it's yeah, I don't know about that, but they

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Speaker 1: it's you know, A is the first storm of the year,

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Speaker 1: B is the second, is the third.

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Speaker 3: I'm totally on board with that.

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Speaker 1: That's fine, that's easy.

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Speaker 2: Can we come up with some better names, though? I mean,

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Speaker 2: and and I'll just say this, I think storms that

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Speaker 2: look pretty fierce and have the potential to be a

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Speaker 2: category five they need to have more aggressive names like

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Speaker 2: four or something or brutus or you know what I mean,

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Speaker 2: Beryl like and I mean, look, Beryl left a swath

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Speaker 2: of flooding through Texas.

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Speaker 1: But that's right, you know, if they're listening this note joke,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I get a Bertha and bless the hearts

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Speaker 1: all those people down there. I got to live through

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Speaker 1: that because it is not easy. No, but that's what

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Speaker 1: is AI in charge of this? Now? Is that what

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Speaker 2: I just think I think meteorologists should have the freedom

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Speaker 2: to come up with more appropriate names for the severity

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Speaker 2: of the storms, because you know, you always have that

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Speaker 2: small segment of the population that says, nah, I'm hunkering down,

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Speaker 2: we're good yet, and they should really just get out

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Speaker 2: of there. And I don't know, maybe the people with

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Speaker 3: To get the heck out of dime.

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Speaker 1: The problem is this, no matter what is, you know,

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Speaker 1: what form of communication we're capable of technologically where we

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Speaker 1: can we can talk to people simultaneously across the globe,

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Speaker 1: you're still going to get the entire spectrum of human

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Speaker 1: beings well dumb too. Smart, take your pick. So you can't.

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Speaker 1: You're not going to get through to everybody all. You know,

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Speaker 1: even intelligent people won't believe it for whatever reasons. And

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Speaker 1: the other end of the spectrum won't believe it either

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Speaker 1: for whatever reason. So you got to go with it

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Speaker 1: so it doesn't I'm kind of with you best that

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Speaker 1: the middle of the smart and dumb, and that's for us.

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Speaker 1: Barrel is for us. It's for us. It's like, it's

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Speaker 1: not it's just a name. It's a weird name. And

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Speaker 2: I think meteorologists should get the freedom to be more creative.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but then what you know, who gets to name?

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Speaker 2: Name should be the name should be fitting of the

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Speaker 1: We hear days a month after category a month after

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Speaker 1: bad was the damage? O, that was worse than this one? Okay,

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Speaker 1: then you get a better name, Like you name it

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Speaker 1: a month late. It's like it's like, you know, it's

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Speaker 1: like having a baby. You don't name that kid until

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess, well, no, that it Well, it's a

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Speaker 1: I get it, but you know, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: I think you should have the right to change the name.

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Speaker 2: Do they forecast severity?

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Speaker 1: Did I see one place where they've got the list

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Speaker 3: I think, Yeah, it comes out ahead of time, pre determined.

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Speaker 1: That's a little different.

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Speaker 3: It's it really.

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Speaker 2: Kind of takes away from people just don't pay enough

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Speaker 3: Takes away we have it on their wall.

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Speaker 1: It takes away the gender reveal, gender reveal.

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Speaker 3: That's where we are, all right.

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Speaker 1: That's fine, Uh. I thought, some prayers go out to

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Speaker 3: I went down Houston.

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Speaker 1: I went down way back in the day when in

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Speaker 1: New Orleans got whacked with Katrina Katrina. I went down

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Speaker 1: stuff down there for that. It's sobering to see what

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Speaker 1: those things do. And I and I, you know, we

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Speaker 1: it was entire swaths of towns that were just washed away.

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Speaker 1: It was it didn't help that, ye New Orleans is

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Speaker 3: An eight foot storm surge, all eight feet.

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Speaker 1: I have never thought about the weather the same after

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Speaker 1: I went down there for that. It's really it's no joke.

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Speaker 1: I mean, as we you know, say it's crazy to

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Speaker 1: When oh, yeah you uh.

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Speaker 2: You had a nice little uh getaway for the Fourth

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Speaker 2: of July week, Yeah you were dark.

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Speaker 1: I was for some people know, I was donna subject

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Speaker 1: subject to my family. But we we're from Kansas and

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Speaker 1: He's retiring. So now there's nobody else in the family

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Speaker 1: people are going to be doing that. That's kind of

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Speaker 1: cool though it was. It was an amazing I've got

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Speaker 3: Is we typically harvested this time.

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Speaker 1: A little earlier, a little earlier, little earlier. This is

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Speaker 1: it moves from Texas all the way up through Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska,

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Speaker 2: Because you know, being where I'm from, I don't know

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Speaker 2: the first thing about farming. And you know, everything you

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Speaker 2: early fall, But there are plenty of crops that get

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Speaker 1: That hard red winter wheat gets harvested and the heat

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Speaker 2: The only farming catchphrase I know is for corn three

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Speaker 3: That's where you.

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Speaker 1: Want your Yeah, you'd like it, but that's not that's

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Speaker 1: The industry is changing. Yeah, it's wow. Yeah, so it's yeah,

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Speaker 1: changing industry. But it was a great weekend. Yeah, family

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Speaker 1: And what a what a weekend, well weekend, it was

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Speaker 1: more of a four or five day that's great. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was great. So thanks for hanging in there while

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Speaker 1: I was gone, gro Sleeve. I mean we were dark

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Speaker 3: They were dark last week. So we were all kind

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Speaker 3: of getting some R and R was good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So there you go.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we got to go around the NFL because there

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Speaker 2: is stuff going on and around the NFL is brought

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Speaker 2: to you by Collida Health, official healthcare system of the

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Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills, and we unfortunately begin with a suspension as

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Speaker 2: Cameron Sutton, Pittsburgh Steelers cornerback suspended for eight games without

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Speaker 2: pay for violating the NFL's Personal conduct policy.

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Speaker 3: That was announced yesterday after we got off the air.

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Speaker 2: So he's eligible to return right before Halloween following the

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Speaker 2: Steelers Week eight game against the Giants. He signed as

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Speaker 2: a free agent with the Steelers. This incident that led

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Speaker 2: was while he was with the Detroit Lions, and he

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Speaker 2: had been charged with misdemeanor battery. Turned himself into police

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Speaker 2: down in Florida back in March, but the NFL's investigation

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Speaker 2: of the incident basically found that Sutton violated the personal

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Speaker 2: looking for corner help, that's a tough one because now

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Speaker 1: If looking down their roster trying to find the contract

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Speaker 1: It's not like he had a huge amount of opportunity

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Speaker 1: And you think, not for nothing, but bo Nicks is

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Speaker 3: Now he's a little older too. Let's not forget this.

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Speaker 2: That guy has sixty one starts in college.

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Speaker 3: Right, sixty one.

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Speaker 2: That's a seriously, yes, he was in because of the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there is at Auburn and he said, oh my.

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Speaker 1: And I'll say this bouncing around like he did. And

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Speaker 2: And I really think, look, college is not the NFL.

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Speaker 3: That he's played in that many games.

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Speaker 2: So I'm kind of intrigued to see how that shakes out.

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Speaker 2: But it seems like the observers, you know, from the press,

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Speaker 1: Joe Zach Wilson's twenty five bo Nick's twenty four.

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Speaker 1: They're close. Uh.

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Speaker 2: From the files of former Bills defensive end Jerry Hughes

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Speaker 2: He appeared in all seventeen games each of the last

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Speaker 3: Last year, sixteen in twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 2: He had three sacks last season, after finishing with nine

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Speaker 3: He'll have a bit part in Houston. You know, he's

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Speaker 2: Seventy sacks in his career, as we know, played nine

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Speaker 2: in the.

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Speaker 3: Twenty eleven draft.

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Speaker 1: I want to say, yeah, something like that, but.

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Speaker 2: He's going to be a rotational guy that's probably going

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Speaker 1: But he's exactly the kind of guy you would like

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Speaker 2: The most interesting conversation I ever had with Jerry Hughes

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Speaker 2: that Jerry is not convinced that dinosaurs existed on this planet.

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Speaker 2: He is unconvinced, and somebody with somebody in the locker

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Speaker 2: I looked at it and I go, Jerry, you don't

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Speaker 2: I said, we have fossils that are carbon dated, like right,

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Speaker 2: how do we know nobody put him there?

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Speaker 1: I said, well, like what, like what.

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Speaker 3: What do you mean? What do you dig a hole

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Speaker 1: Like, well, now I'm interested? So serious?

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Speaker 3: Oh no, he was.

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Speaker 2: He was dead on serious, like he he is unconvinced,

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Speaker 4: I was.

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Speaker 3: I was more curious than anything.

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Speaker 2: Else, Like I I got it, like I got to

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Speaker 3: He goes, well, how do we know those are real?

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Speaker 3: I was like, well, we've.

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Speaker 2: I you know, he was so he thinks it's a

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Speaker 1: Hoax? He has a huge hoax. Yeah, scientists. I'm saying, hey,

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Speaker 1: I'll let you look at it.

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Speaker 2: I remember, I remember I did say to him one time.

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Speaker 2: I said, Jerry, they've they've found these fossils.

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Speaker 3: All over the planet.

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Speaker 2: Do you know what kind of undertaking it would require

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Speaker 3: To the far reaches of the Earth.

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Speaker 2: I mean they found stuff in Antarctica, like all the

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Speaker 2: he just said somebody could have put him there. It's

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Speaker 2: all I know. Say, Okay, go get him this Sunday, Jerry.

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Speaker 3: That's where I kind of left it.

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Speaker 1: So how about those How about the Jets game this week?

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Speaker 3: H He was funny.

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Speaker 1: I get it.

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Speaker 2: It was a it was a fun conversation. But good

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Speaker 2: for him that he's still playing. I would call what

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Speaker 2: would you say this? I know he had a ten

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Speaker 3: Was with the Bills.

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Speaker 2: But I would say the number one Jerry Hughes play

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Speaker 2: is the fumble recovery for a touchdown against the Broncos

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Speaker 2: be his signature radio for that. Yeah, that's a signature

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Speaker 1: Unif when I screamed from in front of Murphy, which

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Speaker 1: is a no no for analysts, Right, You're supposed to

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Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it.

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Speaker 2: He ranber that's the one where he ran into certain

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Speaker 1: Weave and anything. Okay, he's gonna and it's one of

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Speaker 1: those things where he's gonna bob and weave, he's gonna

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Speaker 3: He was a he was a running back in high school, so.

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Speaker 1: a bunch of them, though he's had some really good moments,

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Speaker 1: has had a very very good career, really good career.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, fifteen years at that position.

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Speaker 1: And I'll say this too, not for nothing that that's

444
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Speaker 1: still today is the trump card for players in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: And the level of respect even the old guys give

446
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Speaker 1: to players. It's like, you know, because back in the

447
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Speaker 1: day they were playing like sixteen years in the league

448
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Speaker 1: and stuff that now you'll see that now, like guys

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Speaker 1: like Roethlisberger and Rogers and these guys play forever and

450
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Speaker 1: ever and ever. Now that is the trump got huge

451
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Speaker 1: levels of respect to guys who have played a long

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Speaker 1: long time in fifteen years as Campbell, that's right.

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Speaker 2: And those not up not quarterbacks, no like there, I.

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Speaker 1: Mean you look at me. There's some other players who

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Speaker 1: were Hall of Fame players like Tony BISSELLI guy played

456
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Speaker 1: like six years. He had seven year career, but one

457
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Speaker 1: of them was on IR six years he played. That's

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Speaker 1: at a like double that up and more. It's a

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Speaker 1: long time, a long time.

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Speaker 2: And you know, if there's anything you could say about

461
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Speaker 2: Jerry Hughes, you never had to wonder what you were

462
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Speaker 2: going to get out of him on a game day.

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Speaker 3: That guy brought it every yes single week.

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Speaker 1: He had a furnace that burned very.

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Speaker 2: Hot, which probably speaks to why he can still get

466
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Speaker 2: the job done even now. Speaking of pass rushers, the

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Speaker 2: Jacksonville Jaguars best defensive player is changing his last name.

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Speaker 2: Two time Pro Bowl defensive end Josh Allen for the

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Speaker 2: Jaguars is changing his last name to a hyphenated version

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Speaker 2: of Heinz Allen to pay tribute to the maternal side

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Speaker 2: of his family, along with other relatives who have worn

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Speaker 2: Hines and Heinz Allen on their jerseys. He's got a

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Speaker 2: sister who plays in the WNBA for the Washington Mystics,

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Speaker 2: Mayoshahines Allen. He's got sisters who both played in college

475
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Speaker 2: playing basketball. And then he's got an uncle who was

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Speaker 2: drafted by the Golden State Warriors in eighty three, Gregory Hines,

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Speaker 2: not the tap dancer. So yeah, I mean he's he's

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Speaker 2: got a heck of a bloodline there. Yeah, And I

479
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Speaker 2: did see this too, Steve. When a when a player changes,

480
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Speaker 2: you know, their number, their jersey, a lot of times

481
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Speaker 2: it kind of leaves fans that have that jersey in

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Speaker 2: the lurch. From what I understand, he's going to have

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Speaker 2: a jersey exchange day, so all the Jags fans that

484
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Speaker 2: have his jersey with Allen on the back, they can

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Speaker 2: exchange it for a Hinz Allen jersey at some event

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Speaker 2: in Jacksonville. Maybe it's around training camp. I don't remember

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Speaker 2: all the specifics, but that's kind of a cool deal there,

488
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Speaker 2: Like that's good, that's cool, Like you're you know, he

489
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Speaker 2: just signed a giant contract, so I'm sure he can

490
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Speaker 2: fut the bill for that, and that's a really cool

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Speaker 2: thing that he's doing for the fans, knowing that he's

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Speaker 2: changing the name on the back of his jersey to

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Speaker 2: Hines Allen London. Fletcher did that here. Remember when he

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Speaker 2: went to Fletcher Baker to honor Yeah, he as I

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Speaker 2: remember it. He grew up in a single parent household

496
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Speaker 2: and then later developed a relationship, I want to say,

497
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Speaker 2: with his dad and decided to go Fletcher hyphen Baker

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Speaker 2: for a while and then eventually went back to Fletcher.

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Speaker 1: Nice. That's a nice move by Now I guess we

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Speaker 1: have josh heinz Allen. Yeah, there's one plus years and

501
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Speaker 1: listened seventeen and a half sacks, a franchise record for

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Speaker 1: the Jags last year.

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Speaker 2: Good for him, that's why he signed his Giant deal.

504
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Speaker 2: And there's a Bills benefit here. Now there are no

505
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Speaker 2: longer too, Josh Allen's in the league. Not that there's

506
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Speaker 2: a lot of confusion. They play on different sides of

507
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Speaker 2: the ball, obviously, but now it's josh heinz Allen in Jacksonville.

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Speaker 3: So there you go.

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Speaker 2: ESPN's Jeremy Foller, as we told you yesterday, had the

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Speaker 2: top ten running back list as chosen by NFL execs,

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Speaker 2: gms and coaches that he interviewed. James Cook was an

512
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Speaker 2: honorable mention for running backs. Yesterday we kind of argued

513
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Speaker 2: he should have been at least like eight or nine

514
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Speaker 2: on the list after.

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Speaker 3: The season that he had last year.

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Speaker 2: Today they released the top ten defensive tackle. Once again,

517
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Speaker 2: no Bills on the top ten list. No Dae Kwon Jones,

518
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Speaker 2: no Ed Oliver. Now, I will say the top ten

519
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Speaker 2: is pretty stacked, so I'm not overly bothered that neither

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Speaker 2: of these guys are in the top ten. But Ed

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Speaker 2: Oliver's coming off a career year like nine and a

522
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Speaker 2: half sacks and he's not even on the Honorable mention list. Like,

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Speaker 2: I've got as much respect as anybody for Cameron Hayward,

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Speaker 2: who's on the Honorable mentioned list. But Steve, if I

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Speaker 2: told you pick between Cameron Hayward and Ed Oliver today,

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Speaker 2: who are you taking for your team?

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Speaker 1: I think yeah, Ed hack right like edge the guy.

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Speaker 1: I get it, though it's hard to put because I'll

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Speaker 1: say this in two words, it's snap count. I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they do rot Bills run guys in and out.

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Speaker 2: And despite all that, he's still had nine and a

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Speaker 2: half sacks.

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Speaker 3: He had like fourteen tackles for loss.

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Speaker 1: And most of the defensive linemen for the Bills don't

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Speaker 1: get as many snaps as the guys that are on

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Speaker 1: the top of this list. Now, no question those guys

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Speaker 1: on the list, they're great players. I mean all those

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Speaker 1: guys are great. But there's all kinds of, you know,

539
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Speaker 1: stuff going on about if you're going to rate a

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Speaker 1: top ten sometimes it's hard to even know if you're

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Speaker 1: getting the right ten guys or twenty guys, let alone

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Speaker 1: the top ten because of what they're asked to do,

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Speaker 1: what the team allows them to do, the scheme that

544
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Speaker 1: they're playing in, whether they got Some guys are in scheme,

545
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Speaker 1: out of scheme. Some guys, you know, play hurt for

546
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Speaker 1: a year never quite fully get there. I mean, there's

547
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Speaker 1: a million reasons why guy plays well when he doesn't.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I think most Bills fans acknowledge it.

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Speaker 1: Ed after signing an extension, played his best.

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Speaker 3: Football certainly did.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you can argue even with fewer snaps, he

552
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Speaker 2: was still ultra productive. And then obviously Deekon was undoubtedly

553
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Speaker 2: hurt by the fact that he missed ten games last

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Speaker 2: season with the injury, so that was kind of what

555
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Speaker 2: was working against him. But that is a look around.

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Speaker 2: The NFL topic of discussion for you today deals with well,

557
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Speaker 2: I mean, we're always hearing the naysayers, the doubters.

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Speaker 3: The people that you know believe that.

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Speaker 2: And look, We've put a moratorium on this on this

560
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Speaker 2: show because I'm tired of hearing it. But people no

561
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Speaker 2: longer think that the Bills are true contenders for the

562
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Speaker 2: ultimate prize in this league. Some people don't even think

563
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Speaker 2: they're the favorite to win the division. After winning the

564
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Speaker 2: last four. But I think we all know the doubters

565
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Speaker 2: are always going to be there for reasons they feel

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Speaker 2: are legitimate. The question that we pose to you today,

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Speaker 2: because this has been a different offseason than one we've

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Speaker 2: seen in recent years, has Buffalo's off season changed? How

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Speaker 2: seriously you take the bills doubters? Eighth three five point

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Speaker 2: fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two, five fifty

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Speaker 2: Those are the numbers to jump on board and chat

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Speaker 2: with us. If you don't have time to give us

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Speaker 2: a phone call, you can hit us up on the

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Speaker 2: tweet sheet as well at one Bill's Live. But did

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Speaker 2: what happen this offseason? No Gabe Davis, no Stefan Diggs,

576
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Speaker 2: no Jordan Poyer, no Micah Hi, no Tredevius White. Did

577
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Speaker 2: all of these changes alter? How seriously you take Bill's

578
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 2: doubters when you hear their takes, like, are you giving

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Speaker 2: them a little more credence than maybe you have in

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Speaker 2: years past? Or maybe you're just like, get the heck

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Speaker 2: out of here. I'm sick of Bill's doubters. You doubt

582
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Speaker 2: us every year and we're right in the thick of it.

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Speaker 3: You let us know eight oh.

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Speaker 2: Three oh five point fifty one eighty eight, five point

585
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Speaker 2: fifty two, five fifty.

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Speaker 3: Those are the numbers we got open lines for you.

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Speaker 2: Steve and I will take a break, but we open

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Speaker 2: the next segment with your phone calls when we return

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Speaker 2: here on One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health, It's

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Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills Radio. Chris Browse Dave tasking with you here

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Speaker 2: on a Tuesday edition at one Bill's Live and asking

592
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Speaker 2: you as Buffalo's off season changed, how seriously you.

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Speaker 3: Take Bill's doubters. Eight h three zero, five point fifty

594
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Speaker 3: one eight eight five fifty two five fifty that's.

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Speaker 2: The number to get on board where you can hit

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Speaker 2: us up on the tweetsheet at one Bill's Live and look,

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Speaker 2: Bill's doubters are coming fast and furious because the names

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Speaker 2: that are no longer on this roster were the household

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Speaker 2: names of the teams that made this club so successful

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Speaker 2: the last several years, particularly on the defensive side of

601
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Speaker 2: the ball, although Mitch Morse, Stefon Diggs, and Gabe Davis

602
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 2: were obviously big parts of the offense as well. So

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Speaker 2: I think it has emboldened the doubters to doubt because

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Speaker 2: it is somewhat of a soft reload for the bills

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Speaker 2: transition of sorts. You know, I still think there's a

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Speaker 2: very strong core here and some promising youth on the

607
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Speaker 2: roster as well. But yeah, I mean I get why

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Speaker 2: the doubters feel like, man, you know what, this is

609
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Speaker 2: the prime time to doubt this team, look at everybody

610
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Speaker 2: they lost. But you know, if you're taking the ten

611
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Speaker 2: thousand foot view, like a lot of these national reporters are,

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Speaker 2: you know, you don't see all the work that's been

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Speaker 2: done behind that front line of players that have since departed.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I'm I guess we should start this conversation

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Speaker 1: about this from where you and I are, although most

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Speaker 1: people who want to listen to the show regularly know

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Speaker 1: where we stand. I there's no question the change is

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Speaker 1: going to cost some adjustment. They've already started to work

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Speaker 1: on that and get adjusted to new faces, new players,

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Speaker 1: start to evaluate the players they've signed here, they wouldn't

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Speaker 1: have signed the players they have. In fact, it would

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Speaker 1: have been almost impossible to stay the same age in

623
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Speaker 1: the secondary, let alone get older or more veteran players.

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00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 1: They are young and athletic in the secondary these days,

625
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Speaker 1: and that, to me is where they want to wanted

626
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Speaker 1: to get to it in large measure, and they did.

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Speaker 1: Wide receiver wise, I have no issues with the wide

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Speaker 1: receiver room at all. They've got all the physical tools

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Speaker 1: you're gonna ever want, and they've still got an elite

630
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Speaker 1: quarterback throwing them the football. That group is going to

631
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Speaker 1: be fine. They are. They've got the deep, they're deep,

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Speaker 1: and certainly they didn't sign you know, Julio Jones in

633
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Speaker 1: his prime or somebody like that, but they've got guys

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Speaker 1: who have played some games in the NFL and played well,

635
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Speaker 1: and in a certain cases like Curtis Samuel, there's every

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Speaker 1: reason to believe this is going to be the first

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Speaker 1: time he's actually gonna be a part of an offense

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Speaker 1: with a quarterback throwing in the football that's any good.

639
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Speaker 1: So there's there's a lot of and the way Shakir

640
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: finished the season last year, I mean, there's every reasonablieve

641
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Speaker 1: men this. They are on the ascent so offensively, you'd

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00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 1: be hard pressed to believe or convince me anyway, and

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Speaker 1: even a casual fan that the Bills are going to

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Speaker 1: take a step back offensively. Their offensive line is more

645
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: athletic and bigger upfront. They were good last year. And

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Speaker 1: they remember they were the only team last year that

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Speaker 1: had all five guys up front start every snap except

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Speaker 1: for that one series in the playoffs when Dion took

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Speaker 1: a seat to get stitches in his hand. In his hand,

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Speaker 1: that was it. So they were good last year, and

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Speaker 1: they look to me better now. Certainly, Mitch Morris is

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Speaker 1: a subtraction. But now you've got Connor McGovern over there,

653
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Speaker 1: and from the off season interviews we've seen with him,

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Speaker 1: he's chomping at the bit to get the play center,

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Speaker 1: which I was like, oh, no, wonder, they no wonder

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Speaker 1: they say goodbye to Mitch Morse. Right, So they've got

657
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: some dudes up front, and I've heard people say that

658
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 1: they think the New York Jets offensive line is better

659
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 1: than the Bills. Come on, bro, come on.

660
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,239
Speaker 2: I understand you've got a future Hall of Famer in

661
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 2: Tyron Smith playing a tackle position for you, and you

662
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 2: have a proven veteran in Morgan Moses. But to me,

663
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 2: both of those guys are past their prime and they're

664
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Speaker 2: playing the edges for you. We've been Elijah Vera Tucker.

665
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 2: Yes he was, he's a first round pick, but he's

666
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 2: coming off a season ending injury what is that?

667
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 3: What is he gonna look like?

668
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, he just play guard. He can hide out and

669
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: guard ver At Tucker. And I'm not saying the Jets

670
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 1: offense the offensive line is horrible. I just don't think

671
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: they're as good as the Bills. I mean, you've got

672
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: Lyle Collins coming in.

673
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 3: You're not even gonna sae.

674
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 1: He can't get on the field. So I'm, you know,

675
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: pump the brakes on that. So I think offensively, you

676
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: got to say, listen, the Bills offense is not gonna

677
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: take any steps bat They're gonna score a ton of points.

678
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now. They're gonna be as good

679
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 1: as they were a year ago, if not better, at

680
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 1: the end of the season. Defensively, I'll listen. I'll listen

681
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:01,800
Speaker 1: for the first half of the season. There's no question

682
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,320
Speaker 1: that's where the adjustment's gonna come. Personnel wise, scheme wise,

683
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 1: it's set right. They know what they're.

684
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Speaker 2: Doing, and I think the scheme caters to adapting to

685
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 2: this defense quickly because it's based on a lot of

686
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 2: simple rules where if you're not sure about the details

687
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 2: of your assignment, there are fallback basic rules that you

688
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 2: can adhere to to get through a play without costing

689
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 2: your team, you know, a big problem points on the

690
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 2: board or a giant play that puts the other team

691
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 2: in scoring territory.

692
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:37,280
Speaker 3: There are built in.

693
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 2: Fail safes, if you will, in the scheme where if

694
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 2: a player is not one hundred percent sure, there are

695
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,240
Speaker 2: basic rules to fall back on, to use and execute

696
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:50,479
Speaker 2: to get you through a play.

697
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 3: But let's go to the phones and see what you think.

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Speaker 2: Eighth three h five point fifty one eight eight eight

699
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 2: five fifty two five fifty got some open lines for you?

700
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 2: There has Buffalo's offseason changed? How suriously? You take the

701
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 2: Bills doubters to Mike and Tanawanda to lead us off today?

702
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 3: What do you got for us?

703
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 4: Mike, Hey, guys, Well, here's where I stand on it.

704
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,880
Speaker 4: I mean, this is talking about me personally. I feel

705
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's this place to the doughters

706
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 4: or not. I'm just talking about me personally. I feel

707
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 4: the vibes are off and it's more or less has

708
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,800
Speaker 4: to do because we didn't get it done the past

709
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 4: four years. I just find myself at this point. You know,

710
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 4: last year or the year before, I was a gung

711
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 4: hold ready for the season. Let's get it. Let's get

712
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 4: it done. Even the media too, the Doughters. We talked

713
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 4: about two years ago after the thirteen second year, we

714
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 4: were everybody's like, you know, Brian, everybody picked us to

715
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 4: win it off, that we were the best roster everything,

716
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 4: And I feel like, because we didn't get it done,

717
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,240
Speaker 4: I feel like, you know, the Doughters, some of the media,

718
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 4: some of the fans have just felt like, Okay, I

719
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 4: can't fall for that again, you know, And I feel

720
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 4: like that's where it is. So I mean, whether it's

721
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 4: I mean, I like the receivers. I like the receivers

722
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:02,919
Speaker 4: we got. You know, I think, you know, this might

723
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 4: be a bit of a step back year, but I

724
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,439
Speaker 4: just think it comes back from like we didn't get

725
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 4: it done these fans, you know, a few years, you know,

726
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 4: and like, I don't know, I don't know, hope that

727
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:13,960
Speaker 4: you guys feel the same way or not.

728
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: I'll say this, I do remember what it was like

729
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:19,319
Speaker 1: after the thirteen seconds where everybody said, well they can't

730
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 1: now that it took this catastrophic collapse at the end

731
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: of that game for them to lose to go to

732
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: the and in the against the Chiefs. So yeah, I

733
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 1: get all of that, and and the let's face it,

734
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: the momentum of a collective consciousness of all NFL fans

735
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 1: is a hard thing to stop. So they kind of

736
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 1: the lazy way it happens is the way it is

737
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:47,320
Speaker 1: for every It's Bills fans and their fanship about thirty

738
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: one other teams. They don't really care that much, so

739
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: that the narrative becomes that it becomes the weight of

740
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 1: the thirty one other teams in their opinion about your team,

741
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: and you have to fight against that. So there are

742
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,399
Speaker 1: people to say, oh, they changed all that stuff, there's

743
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,359
Speaker 1: no way they can be and that's it. So that's

744
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 1: the consciousness of the narrative about the Bills. And we

745
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 1: here in Western New York and Bill's mafia. It's like,

746
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, I think we look pretty good, particularly well.

747
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 2: And I think if you want to look at it

748
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 2: from a different viewpoint than Mike presented it, not that

749
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 2: Mike was wrong in the way he presented it. I

750
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 2: think people do genuinely feel that way, and I understand why.

751
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 2: But you can also flip that around and say, because

752
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,479
Speaker 2: for whatever reason, they did not go all the way.

753
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 2: Whether you want to bring up the game in the

754
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 2: twenty twenty one playoffs, or whether you want to talk

755
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 2: about catastrophic injuries at the absolute worst possible time to

756
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 2: Reil Bernard missing the playoff game, you know against the Chiefs,

757
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,760
Speaker 2: you know that kind of thing, and ra Seull Douglas

758
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,240
Speaker 2: hobbling around on one leg.

759
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 3: I think the fact that.

760
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:52,399
Speaker 2: They have not made it to the AFC title game

761
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,760
Speaker 2: the last three years is what prompted helped to prompt

762
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:59,320
Speaker 2: this degree of change because they tried enough times already

763
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,399
Speaker 2: with crew they had, and for whatever reason, and there

764
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 2: were many that they didn't get over that hump and

765
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 2: even get back to where they were in twenty twenty,

766
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,479
Speaker 2: I think convinced them, hey, look we've got to shed

767
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 2: some salary.

768
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 3: We haven't gotten there these last four three years with

769
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 3: this crew. It's time to turn this over a bit

770
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 3: and see if we can come up with a better

771
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 3: formula to get there.

772
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:26,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it says something about their philosophy of trying

773
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: to get younger and more athletic, no question, a little

774
00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 1: higher energy and with youth comes a little bit better durability.

775
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: Because Hide and Pouryer were kind of in and out

776
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 1: of the lineup the last two years they were here,

777
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 1: not that they were catastrophic, although Micah's neck injury early

778
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,759
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two was pretty rest almost the whole year.

779
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 1: But that kind of thing plays into it. But also

780
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 1: with Bob Babbage now taken over and it's going to

781
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 1: be the third defensive coordinator in three years. They had

782
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: Leslie Fraser, then McDermott last year, and then Babbage now

783
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: and that says something as to say, wow, you know,

784
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're gonna you know, what are

785
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 1: they doing over there? And I think it's I think

786
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 1: it's an evolution that continues with Sean McDermott and his

787
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: this mindset he has. He wants to try and continually

788
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 1: get better. And sometimes when you get better it means

789
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 1: changing some things, and other times getting better just means

790
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 1: he's listen, we need to do what we're doing and

791
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: do it better. Just be more efficient in house. We

792
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:29,359
Speaker 1: don't need to overhaul stuff. I think this is one

793
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 1: of the years where they say, you know what, it's

794
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: about time for us to refurbish. I think, particularly in

795
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 1: the you look at Hide and Poyer and how much

796
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: we loved and respect it and still love and respect

797
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: those guys. They need some energy back there and some

798
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 1: athleticism and some durability and youth. And I think that's

799
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:52,879
Speaker 1: that's what it came to this offseason. And I think

800
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,399
Speaker 1: that kind of is indicative of the entire defensive side

801
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 1: of the ball. I think when Sean McDermott is as

802
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,959
Speaker 1: their defensive coordinator, he probably looking at that and saying,

803
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: you know what he's He's Brandon Bean and McDermot are saying, Okay,

804
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: let's you know what we gotta do it turn the page.

805
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have to take a break here, but when

806
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 2: we come back more of your phone calls. We'll lead

807
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 2: off with Steven Iowa as he'll get us going in

808
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 2: the next segment, as we're asking you, has Buffalo's off

809
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:21,400
Speaker 2: season changed? How seriously you take the Bill's doubters? Eight

810
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 2: h three oh five fifty the number to get on board.

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821
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Speaker 2: That's coming up next week week from today, so be

822
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,319
Speaker 2: sure to check it out if you're interested. I got

823
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 2: to get back to the topic at hand, which is,

824
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 2: do you feel any differently about Bill's doubters based on

825
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 2: what has transpired in Buffalo's off season?

826
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 3: Can let us know at aighth.

827
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Speaker 2: Three five point fifty one eighty eight five fifty two,

828
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Speaker 2: five point fifty We are wide open for your phone

829
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 2: calls throughout the show today, and we go back to

830
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 2: the phones now and to Steve in Iowa.

831
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 3: What do you got for a Steve.

832
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 6: Hey, thanks for taking my call. Say, I kind of

833
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,720
Speaker 6: agree with what you were saying earlier about the flipping

834
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 6: the script on the earlier caller, But the point I'd

835
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 6: like to make was, I think the Bills have historically

836
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 6: been an undervalued franchise in the nationalized because of the

837
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 6: smaller population base and presidence of the media and New

838
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 6: York City and so on. I don't. I don't put

839
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 6: a lot of stock and what the daughters say because

840
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,280
Speaker 6: they they don't have the knowledge, they don't follow the team,

841
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 6: and I just think that having faith and what the

842
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 6: administration is doing with the Bills is not something that

843
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 6: the folks that are outside of the area truly understands.

844
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 7: So I don't.

845
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 6: I just simply don't put a lot of faith in

846
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:21,760
Speaker 6: what they're saying.

847
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'll say this too, that that could be

848
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,320
Speaker 1: said about Bills fans looking at it everybody else, although

849
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 1: you know, we here we keep pretty close tabs on

850
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: what the AFC East is doing. The Dolphins and the

851
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 1: Jets New England. It seems like of Lady ever since,

852
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: well even before this year and the head coaching change,

853
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 1: they were a little bit of a black hole of information.

854
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,879
Speaker 1: They just disappeared. You'd see them pop up their hand

855
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: during the draft pick somebody and then go back underground.

856
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: So they're a little bit harder to keep track of.

857
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 1: But the Jets and the Dolphins, I think Bills fans

858
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: who listen to this show know that we kind of

859
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 1: feel like we have a handle on them. But having

860
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: said that, Bills fans are probably the same way about

861
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: the Bengals and you know, and the Steelers and the

862
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 1: Chiefs and the other teams. So you can get the

863
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: national narrative, and I've been saying this in the entire show.

864
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 1: You can get the national narrative about how people just

865
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 1: look at the Bills think about what they saw him

866
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:19,279
Speaker 1: do the last heard about the changes, like they're taking

867
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: a step back, and that's about as far as it goes.

868
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 1: I think Bills fans are in a different spot though.

869
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: I think we feel I think a little bit rejuvenated

870
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: by what they've done with the roster. You still got

871
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 1: Josh Allen at quarterback. That's always gonna help, and that's

872
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 1: that always is the great safety net, no question. But

873
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 1: you look at their offense and even their wide receiver

874
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: room's going to be largely new. You gotta feel really

875
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 1: good with the guys they've got returning, like Kincaid and

876
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: Cook and Shakir and Knocks. And I think I just

877
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 1: think it's the Bills fans feel like, Wow, that's they

878
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 1: can see the logic and the and the and the

879
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 1: momentum behind it.

880
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:05,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, And despite the name recognition of changes in terms

881
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 2: of subtractions, I think there is still plenty of continuity

882
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,720
Speaker 2: on this roster. I mean, especially in the front seven

883
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 2: for the defense, I mean the defensive line. You know,

884
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 2: you lost some role playing defensive tackles and Leonard Floyd

885
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 2: up front, and then the linebacker room is essentially unchanged

886
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 2: in terms of your top five players, and you know

887
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 2: you hopefully have a fully healthy all pro Matt Mulano

888
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 2: back and Taron Johnson, even if you want to call

889
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 2: him a front seven defender because he's up at the

890
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 2: line so much, he's still in the fold as well.

891
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 2: So I mean, I think in the grand scheme of things,

892
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 2: there's more continuity than maybe outside observers realize because they're

893
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:58,879
Speaker 2: focused on the household name subtractions maybe more than anything else.

894
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,760
Speaker 1: And I'll say this too, you know we Sean McDermott

895
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 1: I said this on the air last year a ton

896
00:47:05,760 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: about you know, the hard lessons, because there's always some

897
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: faction of your fan base who's out to get the

898
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 1: head coach whatever. No matter where you're at. There's probably

899
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: even some in Kansas City don't want Andy Reid out

900
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:23,240
Speaker 1: and they just don't think he can do it. Whatever.

901
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 1: There just always is. But Sean McDermott has been through

902
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,720
Speaker 1: the ringer here in Buffalo in a number of different ways.

903
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: And this is still the same guy who came in

904
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 1: and took a drought era roster, a bad drought era roster,

905
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 1: and got him to the playoffs. And he's always had

906
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: that mantra, I've got to get better all the time,

907
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 1: got to get better self improvement. You're always looking to

908
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 1: get a growth mindset, and took this team through some

909
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 1: gut wrenching losses, losing a sixteen point lead to the

910
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:58,919
Speaker 1: Texans in that playoff year, or in Josh Allen's first

911
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 1: run to the playoffs and then thirteen set the in

912
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,879
Speaker 1: from his thirteen second game. And there's been others too

913
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 1: that and there's been others in fact that the losses

914
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 1: have become so unusual, particularly regular season losses, they almost

915
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:18,360
Speaker 1: all have names. You know, this is the guy who,

916
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:21,600
Speaker 1: with a running start, with a no it was from

917
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 1: a standstill, got a bad drought roster to the playoffs,

918
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: and now with a big time runway and a seven

919
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 1: year stint behind him, you're asking him to change out,

920
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 1: you know, a third or two thirds of his defensive

921
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,360
Speaker 1: side of the ball and get back to the play you know,

922
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 1: with an elite quarterback. I like my chances. I like

923
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: my chances. Sean mcderm's gonna have this team humming at

924
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 1: the right time of the year and with the intent

925
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 1: of going places they haven't gone under him.

926
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 2: We are up against the break here, but we are

927
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 2: wide open for your phone calls in hour number two

928
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,919
Speaker 2: as well, so you let us know as Buffalo's off

929
00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:05,399
Speaker 2: season changed, how seriously you take the Bills doubters eight

930
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 2: oh threeh five point fifty one eight and eighty five

931
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:10,359
Speaker 2: point fifty two five fifty open lines for you there

932
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Speaker 2: as we have your phone calls all set for our

933
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 2: number two coming up next down. One Bill's Live presented

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Speaker 2: by Colida Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

935
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Speaker 1: These One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health.

936
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 2: Our number two here on a Tuesday, Chris Brown Steve

937
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 2: Tasker with you, and we are wide open for your

938
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 2: phone calls here in our number two. It's just you

939
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 2: and us and the thing we're discussing today. It's been

940
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:26,280
Speaker 2: a different kind of off season for Buffalo and their roster,

941
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 2: and the changes are a little bit a little bit

942
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 2: more severe in terms of subtractions than we've seen in

943
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 2: years past. Have those off season changes to Buffalo's roster altered,

944
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 2: how seriously you take Bill's doubters and their takes, whether

945
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 2: you see them on social media, whether you're talking to

946
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:55,399
Speaker 2: the random outplaced Dolphins fan in Western New York who's like, ah,

947
00:50:55,480 --> 00:51:00,879
Speaker 2: you guys are done, or whatever it is, do you

948
00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 2: do you take Bills doubters takes a little bit differently

949
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 2: now in light of how different this offseason has been

950
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,359
Speaker 2: to recent off seasons for the Bills. Eight h three zero,

951
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,439
Speaker 2: five point fifty one, eight of eight, five point fifty two,

952
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 2: five fifty that's the number.

953
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 3: To get on board.

954
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 2: You can hit us up on the tweet sheet at

955
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,319
Speaker 2: one Bills Live and we'll crack open the tweet sheet

956
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 2: in just a second. I will say, just for me personally,

957
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 2: I'm more willing to listen to what the doubters have

958
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 2: to say in light of the changes. Doesn't mean I'm

959
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 2: buying it. Because to your point, you have alan, you

960
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 2: have a chance, And for me, it goes even deeper

961
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:41,359
Speaker 2: than that, because you have all pro talents in Matt

962
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 2: Milano and Tarren Johnson. On the defensive side of the ball,

963
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 2: you have an emerging middle linebacker talent in Terrell Bernard.

964
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 2: You have had Oliver coming off a career year. You

965
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:57,160
Speaker 2: have a promising edge rusher and Greg Russeau who I

966
00:51:57,200 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 2: still think hasn't reached his full potential, and you hopefully

967
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 2: have a rejuvenated von Miller, who I just saw in

968
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 2: a report yesterday they were talking about how he's a

969
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:14,080
Speaker 2: little perturbed that he was doubted personally after playing through

970
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 2: you know, playing almost as a form of rehab last

971
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 2: year coming off his ACL injury. So you roll all

972
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 2: that together, you know, on the defensive side of the

973
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 2: ball along and let's not forget this Christian Benford probably

974
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 2: at his best year in a Bill's uniform last year

975
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 2: at corner that went largely unnoticed, you know, and they've

976
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 2: kind of granted they've retooled the safety position. Maybe they

977
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 2: seek a little bit more depth at corner. But I

978
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 2: know you and I are big believers in Kyrie Elam

979
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 2: and what he can do in year three with a

980
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 2: new lease on life and a new position coach. So

981
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 2: I'll listen to doubters maybe more than I would because

982
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 2: I'm kind of curious as to what their take is

983
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:03,360
Speaker 2: and if it's so based on the veteran players that

984
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:06,799
Speaker 2: were clipped off this roster largely a salary cap casualties.

985
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 2: I'll listen to it, but I don't know that I'm

986
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 2: buying it. That's the only way it's changed for me.

987
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's hard to I think this too. No question,

988
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 1: the guys that they released were salary. There was an

989
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 1: economic decision to be made there, and I think at

990
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 1: the age we're talking about some of those guys, you know,

991
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 1: like Eve Mitch Morris, whether they had it in enough

992
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 1: gas in the tank to earn the economic side of

993
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,360
Speaker 1: their contract. Certainly the veterans savvy and all that and

994
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:39,879
Speaker 1: leadership they did, but production, I don't know if those

995
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 1: guys were in a position at the point of their

996
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 1: careers where they were released that they were going to

997
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 1: earn eight million bucks a year, ten million bucks a year,

998
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:50,800
Speaker 1: whatever the numbers were. Certainly Tredevious White would have struggled

999
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: coming off an a an Achilles tear to earn seventeen a year.

1000
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 1: You have miss thirty games in the last You got

1001
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 1: to really play well to do that, so economically you

1002
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 1: have to make it. You could make an argument in

1003
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 1: favor of the bills that they're going to get more

1004
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 1: value out of the money they have spent on their

1005
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 1: salary cap than they did a year ago when they

1006
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 1: were the number two seed in the AFC. So I'm

1007
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 1: that's kind of where I'm at, and that's a that's

1008
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 1: a different way to look at it, but I'm but

1009
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 1: I think it's still just as valid. Forget about the

1010
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 1: physical talent, the youth and the athleticism that they've upgraded

1011
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 1: to in certain spots, but just think about the economics

1012
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:35,440
Speaker 1: of it. They're going to get more production for less money.

1013
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 1: Now they've got some they got to you know, they

1014
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 1: got a dead cap thing they got to deal with with,

1015
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 1: like staph. But they're gonna get more value out of

1016
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 1: what they are spending for sure.

1017
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 2: And you know, I think they recognize the fact that

1018
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 2: an influx of youth was needed for a roster that

1019
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:56,000
Speaker 2: and granted, injuries can happen to an NFL roster at

1020
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 2: any point in time on any given play.

1021
00:54:58,160 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 3: It's just the nature of the sport.

1022
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 2: But I think there have been a couple of instances

1023
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 2: each of the last two years in the playoffs where

1024
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 2: they weren't going in with a full roster of healthy players.

1025
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 3: And I realize that's the case.

1026
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,240
Speaker 2: For a lot of teams. But look at what happened

1027
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one. When they hit the ground running,

1028
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 2: they were fully healthy. I mean, they ramshackled the Patriots,

1029
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 2: you know. I know they didn't get past the divisional round,

1030
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 2: but they look as primed as ever to beat the Chiefs.

1031
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 2: And we know what happened there. But I guess my

1032
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 2: point is, I think they saw elements of their roster

1033
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 2: getting long in the tooth. It was becoming harder and

1034
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 2: harder to keep those elements of the roster healthy through

1035
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 2: a seventeen game season and playoffs, and so I think

1036
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 2: they felt an influx of youth was necessary. Let's get some,

1037
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:58,839
Speaker 2: you know, more pliable bodies out there that usually are

1038
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 2: more durable over the long haul, and see if it

1039
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 2: makes a difference so we can go into the playoffs

1040
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,000
Speaker 2: a healthier bunch than we have each of the last

1041
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 2: two seasons.

1042
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's you know, that's one consideration in the

1043
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 1: in the scheme of things. Also, the change in dynamics

1044
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 1: in the locker room is going to be interesting. Let's

1045
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 1: face it, We've have been for the last two or

1046
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,279
Speaker 1: three years for sure, maybe a little longer than that.

1047
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,319
Speaker 1: This is Josh's team, and I think that this is

1048
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 1: one of those one of the first years. Maybe last

1049
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 1: year you could make this argument, although I don't remember

1050
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 1: talking about it like this. Josh's I mean, he's a superstar,

1051
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 1: and a superstar quarterback, has some sway within the building,

1052
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:42,360
Speaker 1: and he has a great relationship with Sean mcdermoty has

1053
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:45,800
Speaker 1: a great relationship with Brandon Bean and I think Josh

1054
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 1: has displayed the restraint that a lot of quarterbacks struggle with.

1055
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 1: Certainly you see other guys around the league, like Aaron

1056
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 1: Rodgers when he was in Green Bay, other other players

1057
00:56:56,680 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 1: have not. You know, Ben Roethlisberger when he was with Pittsburg,

1058
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 1: there was a little bit of I don't know, it

1059
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 1: seems to me like there was a little bit of

1060
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:08,839
Speaker 1: bad vibes coming out of there about you know, him

1061
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:11,279
Speaker 1: being a part of the offense and then moving on

1062
00:57:11,360 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 1: from him a little tours. You know, I'm no. You know,

1063
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 1: they changed offensive coordinators, I mean as often as they

1064
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 1: did you know, team buses. I mean, they went through

1065
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 1: offensive coordinators a lot in Pittsburgh at the end of

1066
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger's career. Other quarterbacks the same way. My point is this,

1067
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 1: I think Josh has been around long enough to know

1068
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 1: so a lot largely this offenses falls on him. He's

1069
00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 1: got a voice in what uh Brady has to do

1070
00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:45,000
Speaker 1: in this offense, what he wants to do, what Josh

1071
00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 1: is good at, what Josh is willing to work on.

1072
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 1: All of this wide receiver stuff about which is the

1073
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 1: big question mark? Offensively? Is not a big to me.

1074
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 1: It is not even a bump on the road because

1075
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,200
Speaker 1: of what we do know about the guys they've drafted,

1076
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 1: the guys that they've got the signed off the free

1077
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 1: agent wire.

1078
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:12,919
Speaker 2: Has Buffalo's offseason changed? How seriously you take the Bills doubt?

1079
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 2: Or is eight O three zero five point fifty open

1080
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 2: line for you?

1081
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 1: There?

1082
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 3: We go back to the phones and to Jim in Lockport.

1083
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 1: What's up?

1084
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Speaker 3: Jim?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, guys doing I'm just calling in a reference to

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Speaker 7: I don't think it My ale looks been any different.

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Speaker 7: I think you look at basically the whole league. Everybody's

1088
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 7: got to make changes. I mean you see all the trades,

1089
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 7: you see the drafts that we got to get. You

1090
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 7: have to utilize your player and learn how to win

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Speaker 7: each player and learn how to win as a team.

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Speaker 7: And that goes back to me talking about teams that

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Speaker 7: won championships and teams that didn't. You look at the

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Speaker 7: Bills back in the nineties. You know this. You gotta

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00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 7: went to the Super Bowl four years in a row.

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Speaker 7: Now do people remember your team because you didn't win?

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Speaker 7: I still remember that team because that was a good team.

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Speaker 7: And I think that Buffalo back then and the AFC

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Speaker 7: was the best team going in. And you can also

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Speaker 7: recall and you can go back and look, get another

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00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 7: another championship team that won a lot of you know,

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Speaker 7: games and stuff in the eighties. The Yankees never went

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Speaker 7: to the World Series. So I just think in general,

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Speaker 7: then it takes a unit, it takes a team, and

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Speaker 7: it takes you guys working together to win.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and maybe a little bit of luck too. But

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Speaker 3: thanks for the call. Jim appreciate that. So he's not

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Speaker 3: swayed at all, and I get that.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I guess.

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Speaker 2: I guess there's multiple ways to kind of take what

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Speaker 2: doubters say. I guess if you're a diet in the

1113
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 2: wild Bills fan, it doesn't matter what anybody says, you're

1114
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Speaker 2: going to ride.

1115
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Speaker 3: You're a ride or die, and that's it. I just

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Speaker 3: and You're right, Jim.

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Speaker 2: Every team every year has to make changes for various reasons,

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Speaker 2: whether it's cap casualties, they feel they can get better

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00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:58,439
Speaker 2: at a position they need to make a change, there's

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Speaker 2: a player on the decline who they want, who they

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Speaker 2: believe they can do better than and move on from

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Speaker 2: that player, or there's a trade opportunity that surfaces. I

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Speaker 2: just think the difference this off season was you had

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Speaker 2: some veteran core players that were a big part of

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Speaker 2: the ride the last five years that are no longer

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Speaker 2: on this roster. This personnel department effectively turn the page

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Speaker 2: on that iteration of the Bills. And this is going

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Speaker 2: to be, I guess the best way to put it,

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Speaker 2: the most different looking Bills roster since this playoff run

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Speaker 2: started in twenty nineteen. You know, they've been to the

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Speaker 2: playoffs every season since twenty nineteen, and this is as

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Speaker 2: different as the roster is going to look in one

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Speaker 2: off season of time. There have been changes all along

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Speaker 2: the way, but to me, this is the most severe

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Speaker 2: level of changes in one off season since the playoff

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Speaker 2: run began in twenty nineteen. Right, and the Bills and

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Speaker 2: Chiefs remain the only two teams that have made the

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Speaker 2: playoff playoffs each of the last six years now six.

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Speaker 3: Years, five years, five years.

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Speaker 2: But you let us know, I mean, has the changes

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Speaker 2: from Buffalo's roster this obviouselyason changed. How seriously you take

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01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 2: the Bills doubters that are out there, because there seem

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Speaker 2: to be more than there have been in recent years.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we haven't had doubters for a long time

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01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 1: that they've always the Bills for the last three or

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Speaker 1: four years have been considered contending.

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Speaker 2: After they made the von Miller signing, it was like

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Speaker 2: they're going right, we were delirious. Yeah, So this is

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Speaker 2: the first year where there are people going about the Bills.

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Speaker 2: And let's face it, the Bills aren't the Patriots, They're

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Speaker 2: not the Broncos. They're not some of these teams that

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01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 2: are in the have been predicted to be like worst

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01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 2: team in the league, worst record in the league.

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Speaker 1: Maybe right, there's some of those out there. The Bills

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Speaker 1: are far from that. And I think I'll say this too.

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Speaker 1: One of the reasons that people are doubting the Bills

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01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 1: is because some of it's the New York media machine,

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01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 1: like fully on board with the Jets and they're thinking Okay,

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01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 1: the Jets have elevated their game. Maybe, Yes, their roster

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01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 1: is awesome and they've.

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Speaker 3: Gotten their defense gives us the Bills problem.

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Speaker 1: Their defense has always given the Bills problems because of

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Speaker 1: Robert sala And I like Robert Sala good. I got

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Speaker 1: a lot of respect for him. People who listen to

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Speaker 1: the show know that. But a forty year old quarterback

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Speaker 1: has still got to take eleven hundred snaps this year.

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Speaker 1: That's a lot. It's a lot to.

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Speaker 2: Ask along with the two offensive tackles who are both

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Speaker 2: on the wrong side of thirty two, it's.

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Speaker 1: A lot to ask. Now, Listen, there's gonna be times

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Speaker 1: when the Jets are gonna look unbeatable and they're gonna

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Speaker 1: play really well. They always play really well into Robert Sola.

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Speaker 1: They just don't sometimes don't have enough talent or they

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01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 1: don't have the right guy. Quarterback basically has been which

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Speaker 1: is why when Rareon Rodgers lines up, you got to

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Speaker 1: think they do have a shot at it. But eleven

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Speaker 1: hundred snaps is a lot.

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Speaker 3: For a forty one year old.

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Speaker 1: That's a lot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's jump back on the phones.

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Speaker 2: Eight oh three zero five fifty one eight eight five

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Speaker 2: fifty two five fifty do have open lines for you.

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Speaker 2: But we go to Mark in West Seneca.

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Speaker 3: What's up, Mark, Hey, guys Hawia good good Hey.

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Speaker 8: As far as taking a step back in the national

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Speaker 8: media and what they're saying, I never put any weight

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Speaker 8: in the national media and what they say about Eddy Sport,

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Speaker 8: I finally talk about superficial things. And they don't get

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Speaker 8: into a lot of depth on any individual team, not

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Speaker 8: just the Bills. That's just my personal opinion. I just

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Speaker 8: they don't sploy me whatsoever. As far as looking at

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Speaker 8: what the Bills have done, this was coming. We knew

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Speaker 8: what this was going to have to happen. We needed

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01:03:57,600 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 8: to get younger, we needed to get more athletic, and

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Speaker 8: Brandon has done a great job of bringing in legitimate

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Speaker 8: talent to fill the spots that he's vacated. So I

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Speaker 8: expect them to be in the mix. But if they

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Speaker 8: do take a step back, so I don't think step back,

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Speaker 8: I don't expect it to be much further than fighting

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Speaker 8: for a playoff spot. And if that happens and they

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Speaker 8: don't make it or whatever, I'm expecting them to be

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Speaker 8: somewhere in the middle of the draft, which excites me

1203
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Speaker 8: because in one year, where that I expect them to

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Speaker 8: be competitive all year and with a first and two

1205
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Speaker 8: seconds and whatever else Brandon's going to do, because he

1206
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 8: may end up moving up, you know how he likes

1207
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 8: to move around the draft. Maybe get us an extra

1208
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 8: third or an extra fourth or something. We could really

1209
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Speaker 8: retool with what we have, which is a legitimate team.

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Speaker 8: We had a lot of good pieces on both sides

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Speaker 8: of the ball. We could really retool in one season.

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Speaker 8: And that really excites me when I look down the road.

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Speaker 8: So that's how I look at it. Thanks guys.

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Speaker 3: All Right, Mark, I don't know if I. Mark must

1215
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 3: have a telescope because.

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Speaker 2: He's already thinking about next year's draft and where we

1217
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 2: might be picking.

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01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 3: Holy cow, Mark, how long.

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01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 2: Do you contemplate these things? You're scaring me a little bit.

1220
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about training camp in two weeks. He's he's

1221
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 2: already got us at the draft. Mark, bro pump the brakes, buddy,

1222
01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:28,680
Speaker 2: let's get to training camp right next year's draft.

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Speaker 3: My god, he kills me.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, I get it.

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Speaker 2: You know, you want everybody wants them to do well

1227
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 2: and you know, be a playoff contender again.

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Speaker 3: But it almost is.

1229
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Speaker 2: It's almost as if Mark has kind of resigned himself

1230
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 2: to the to at least the possibility that the soft

1231
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:56,680
Speaker 2: reset that this team is doing this year may compromise

1232
01:05:56,760 --> 01:06:00,200
Speaker 2: their chances at a playoff. Berth, It's logical to think

1233
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:03,760
Speaker 2: that way, and I understand it because there are a

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01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:06,479
Speaker 2: fair number of pieces that have to come together in jail,

1235
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 2: and not just on the player side of the ledger.

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01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 2: Let's not forget you have a new full time offensive

1237
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:17,400
Speaker 2: coordinator who coached eight or nine games for you last year.

1238
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:21,080
Speaker 2: He's in the chair, he has made changes by all

1239
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 2: accounts from what they previously ran, and hopefully that's all

1240
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 2: for the better. And then you have a new defensive

1241
01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:30,760
Speaker 2: coordinator and it's still to be determined whether he's calling

1242
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 2: the plays on game days, but still a new guy

1243
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:36,720
Speaker 2: run in that room and that side of the ball,

1244
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 2: in addition to all of the personnel changes.

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Speaker 3: That have been made. I don't think that should be overlooked.

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Speaker 2: So I can understand how you can get to a

1247
01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:51,920
Speaker 2: place where you say, you know, maybe it is a

1248
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:57,080
Speaker 2: little tougher to end up where they have been each

1249
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Speaker 2: of the last four years, which is at the top

1250
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Speaker 2: of the AFC East. I still maintain that it's a

1251
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:06,440
Speaker 2: playoff caliber squad, and.

1252
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Speaker 3: Yes, I will admit that maybe.

1253
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Speaker 2: A few more pieces have to be fit together over

1254
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 2: the course of the season than in years past, but

1255
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:17,520
Speaker 2: I think the potential exists and perhaps by the end

1256
01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 2: of the year being even better team than they were

1257
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:20,920
Speaker 2: at that time the year before.

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Speaker 1: I'll say this too some and we all know this,

1259
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:26,960
Speaker 1: and even Brownie and I being in the media like

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01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 1: we are, have to acknowledge that there are outlets that

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01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 1: I mean, they're churning for engagement. So they're saying the

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Speaker 1: one thing that is inflammatory about your team, knowing that

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01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 1: Bill's fans, who are by and large very engaged in

1264
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 1: their team even in July, are like their hut. You know,

1265
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 1: the mafia is basically head hunting. I mean guys like

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01:07:49,840 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 1: Nick Wright, you know, the guy who hates that Josh Allen,

1267
01:07:52,320 --> 01:07:56,120
Speaker 1: hater of all haters. Listen, you can't convince me Nick

1268
01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:59,560
Speaker 1: thinks Josh stinks as much as he says he thinks

1269
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:03,240
Speaker 1: Josh stinks, But he does it knowing that the Bills

1270
01:08:03,320 --> 01:08:07,080
Speaker 1: fans will absolutely rise up and come after him, and

1271
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:10,360
Speaker 1: he'll you know, he's in the center of things. All

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Speaker 1: of a sudden. So I think some of the doubters

1273
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:18,760
Speaker 1: use change and the slightest weakness in the armor of

1274
01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 1: a team to swoop in, take a couple of snipes

1275
01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:25,120
Speaker 1: at a team and get their fans riled up and

1276
01:08:25,280 --> 01:08:28,400
Speaker 1: get some gain some engagement. That's kind of a strategy

1277
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Speaker 1: that some media members work work with Brownie and I,

1278
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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: We don't do that.

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think we do. Right, We try

1281
01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:38,960
Speaker 1: and get you to engaged with us about stuff we're

1282
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:41,360
Speaker 1: talking about our team. Yeah, so we're not looking for weaknesses,

1283
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:45,479
Speaker 1: but we know there's always doubters. Those are easy to find.

1284
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 1: So there is a little bit of this national narrative

1285
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:51,280
Speaker 1: that is all about media engagement. They just they just

1286
01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 1: kind of fire shots out looking for clicks. So there's

1287
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:57,559
Speaker 1: a little bit of that narrative out there all the time.

1288
01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:02,200
Speaker 1: But let's face it, even and the most strident Bills

1289
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:04,280
Speaker 1: fan like Brownie and I, we know, listen, we got

1290
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:08,840
Speaker 1: some questions to answer, no question, no doubt, But we

1291
01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:11,960
Speaker 1: have done some research about the guys that they've looked at,

1292
01:09:12,240 --> 01:09:13,880
Speaker 1: the guys that they've signed to replace some of the

1293
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:17,400
Speaker 1: guys we love and respect, like Micah and Jordan Mitch Morris,

1294
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:20,640
Speaker 1: and we're on top of what the team's doing on

1295
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:25,000
Speaker 1: a day to day basis, and we're sitting here going, yeah,

1296
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:30,360
Speaker 1: I kind of like it. So that's where we're at,

1297
01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:35,160
Speaker 1: but not everybody's where we are. We do it every

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Speaker 1: wee do it all the time.

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Speaker 2: And the other thing too here is I understand the

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01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:46,720
Speaker 2: de pensive nature perhaps of those that aren't convinced that,

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Speaker 2: you know, the Bills are still the best team in

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Speaker 2: the division. I get why people have that opinion, but

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Speaker 2: and I realize not every position that gets replaced by

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01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:04,200
Speaker 2: someone winds up being better for the team as a whole.

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Speaker 2: But think about how much concern we had last year

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01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:13,559
Speaker 2: at this time about the team's middle linebacker position. As

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01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:15,720
Speaker 2: a matter of fact, we got to the end of

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01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:18,720
Speaker 2: the preseason, we didn't know who it was going to be,

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Speaker 2: and the guy that they ultimately chose missed the entire

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Speaker 2: preseason with a hamstring injury.

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Speaker 3: And we're like, well, hope Bernard's good.

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Speaker 2: He was fantastic and probably the defensive MVP last year.

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Speaker 2: And again I'm not saying every guy in a similar

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01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:47,479
Speaker 2: replacement role for this team this year is going to

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Speaker 2: pan out the same way, but knowing the talents of

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Speaker 2: the coaching staff to develop players, especially ones that have

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Speaker 2: been here in the pipeline a year or two, I

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Speaker 2: think you could have two or three that pan out

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Speaker 2: in similar fashion. Maybe not defensive or offensive MVP level,

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Speaker 2: but pretty darn close. So that that's why I feel, maybe,

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Speaker 2: if not right away in month one, this team looks

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Speaker 2: as good as the one last year. I think come

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Speaker 2: November and December they might look even better.

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Speaker 1: I'll say that I'll go and I'll jump on board

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Speaker 1: with that. Certainly, every head coach in the league has

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Speaker 1: their critics. It's you kind of what sign up for

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01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:32,519
Speaker 1: it when you become a head coach of an NFL

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Speaker 1: team with a fan base is passionate as the Bills

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01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:37,960
Speaker 1: or the Jets or the Dolphins, name your name, your team,

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Speaker 1: they all sign up. They all sign up for it,

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Speaker 1: and they all have critics. But even the most ardent

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01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:49,640
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott critics have to have to acknowledge that the

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Speaker 1: guy has gotten the most out of the rosters he's

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Speaker 1: been given and there and he's the guy that's looking

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Speaker 1: at and mcdert and uh Brandon Bean of course signs

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01:11:59,920 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 1: all the players. He goes out scouts and signs them

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Speaker 1: with input for the kind of guys he's want that

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Speaker 1: Sean McDermott wants. And like, for instance, Sean will say, hey,

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01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:10,120
Speaker 1: I need a linebacker who's this and this and this,

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Speaker 1: And Brandon Bean goes all right, I got this guy,

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01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 1: this guy and this guy. Let's let's go. So they

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Speaker 1: turned out to be Terrell Bernard and Matt Mulano. Fifth

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01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:21,760
Speaker 1: round and whatever. Bernard was like a third round or whatever. Right,

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Speaker 1: So all of a sudden in the third and fifth round,

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Speaker 1: you got these two guys out there that are absolutely

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01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:31,519
Speaker 1: crushing it. Right, everybody else in the league would their

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01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:35,800
Speaker 1: third and fifth round. Sean McDermott makes those guys into indispensable,

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Speaker 1: puts them in the right, gives them stuff to do

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Speaker 1: that they can do, and maximizes it. That's what Sean

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01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:44,320
Speaker 1: mc even his most ardent critics have to acknowledge. Sean

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01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:48,840
Speaker 1: McDermott puts together a roster and an on the field

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Speaker 1: product with whatever roster Brandon Bean can give him, and man,

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01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:55,240
Speaker 1: they've got a gas pedal that is all the way

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01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:59,120
Speaker 1: to the floor. He really has the ability as a

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Speaker 1: head coach that's one of the strong strengths is that

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Speaker 1: whatever guys he's got on the field available to him,

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Speaker 1: they're getting it, and that I think you can count on.

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Speaker 1: And that's one of the reasons I maybe now that

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Speaker 1: I say it like that, maybe that's why I feel

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Speaker 1: so good about these guys. Whatever they've got to give,

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Speaker 1: McDermott's gonna have him out there showing it. That's his

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Speaker 1: greatest strength as a head coach. And you can throw

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01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:28,880
Speaker 1: darts at that all you want to, but man, oh man,

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01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:31,680
Speaker 1: that's a big part of it. He's got players who

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01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:37,280
Speaker 1: are playing way over expectations everywhere, starting with Josh Allen.

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Speaker 1: So that to me is as much as Josh Allen,

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01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:45,280
Speaker 1: now we consider on offensive side of the ball is

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01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:47,519
Speaker 1: a real safety net. He's gonna make it. Listen, Sean

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01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:52,519
Speaker 1: McDermott and this roster is just like that. They're not

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Speaker 1: gonna let guys out there on the field who aren't

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01:13:55,600 --> 01:14:01,720
Speaker 1: gonna get it done. They just don't that to me,

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Speaker 1: as I say that, we haven't really discussed that too much,

1373
01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:09,799
Speaker 1: but I think that's something that I really have innately

1374
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:12,800
Speaker 1: come to depend on from this coaching staff and this

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01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:13,559
Speaker 1: head coach.

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Speaker 3: Let's jump back on the phone lines here and go

1377
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Speaker 3: to Jim in Rochester next. What do you got for us?

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Speaker 1: Jim?

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Speaker 5: All right, Steve, you triggered me with a Nick Wright reference.

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01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 4: Had had the call after that.

1381
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:32,759
Speaker 5: Former journalism major in college, and this is not journalism

1382
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:35,479
Speaker 5: when he puts out there, Yeah he has no just

1383
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:38,040
Speaker 5: a plane homer as all and trying to trigger people

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01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:38,320
Speaker 5: like me.

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Speaker 6: They can't get over it.

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Speaker 5: But anyway, answer to the question minus, no, I don't.

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Speaker 5: I haven't changed my outlook at all. If you look

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01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:49,920
Speaker 5: at the twenty seventeen playoff team and compare that roster

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01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:52,240
Speaker 5: to this one. Now, I don't know how he got

1390
01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:53,439
Speaker 5: that team to the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, it was amazing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so no, I haven't say it. With the way

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01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:04,639
Speaker 5: being in McDon draft and developed players, there isn't really

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01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:07,000
Speaker 5: a reason for people to think that we're not going

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01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:12,240
Speaker 5: to be playoffs. Found type of team. The players that

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01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:16,439
Speaker 5: we lost, I loved them dearly. But I think everyone

1397
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:22,719
Speaker 5: that did get chopped had to love Trey.

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Speaker 4: But we know that story.

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01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:27,519
Speaker 5: Mitch was the only one I was really surprised at.

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01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:30,000
Speaker 5: Everyone else I really really thought, but Mitch was a

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01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:33,240
Speaker 5: concussion And now we can move to the left guard

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01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:33,840
Speaker 5: over to center.

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01:15:33,880 --> 01:15:34,599
Speaker 9: I think we'll be good.

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01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:39,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, appreciate the call, Jim, Yeah, I mean that's where're red. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: we know.

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Speaker 2: He's I was kind of struck by what he said

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01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:46,760
Speaker 2: when he said every guy that was moved off the

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01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:49,960
Speaker 2: roster kind of had to go. And you know, this

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01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:53,559
Speaker 2: is not any disrespect to the guys that gave their

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01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:55,960
Speaker 2: heart and sould to this football team at all. We

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01:15:56,120 --> 01:16:00,920
Speaker 2: all know that careers are fleeting in this league, and

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01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:05,840
Speaker 2: time with one particular club is even more so just

1413
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:08,559
Speaker 2: because of the transient nature of this league with free agency.

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01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:11,040
Speaker 3: Mitch Morris was a cap casualty.

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01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:12,600
Speaker 2: And I don't think it was any more than that

1416
01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:16,960
Speaker 2: you saved I think about six seven million dollars by

1417
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:20,720
Speaker 2: moving him off the roster. Maybe more than that. Oh No,

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01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:22,560
Speaker 2: Von Miller saved to meet and a half taken a

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01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:26,719
Speaker 2: pay cut, you know. And Jordan Poyer and Micah Hyde,

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01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:31,400
Speaker 2: as you said earlier, fantastic players here for a long time.

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01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:37,840
Speaker 3: Jordan had kind of lost a step. We saw it

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01:16:37,960 --> 01:16:38,719
Speaker 3: last August.

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01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:42,439
Speaker 2: They're playing in a preseason game against Pittsburgh. Jalen Warren

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01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:46,599
Speaker 2: bounces a run outside. Jordan Poyer has the angle. As

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01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:49,879
Speaker 2: soon as he breaks contain and gets to the outside

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01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:53,040
Speaker 2: to the sideline, Jordan Poyer has the angle, and then

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01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:55,760
Speaker 2: all of a sudden he doesn't, and Warren's down the

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01:16:55,800 --> 01:17:00,559
Speaker 2: sideline for a sixty yard touchdowns, like, oh, we haven't

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01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:04,679
Speaker 2: seen that before. And then it made me pay closer attention.

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01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:08,280
Speaker 2: And I think it was a big reason why Sean

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01:17:08,360 --> 01:17:12,520
Speaker 2: McDermott wisely put him closer to the line of scrimmage

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01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:16,360
Speaker 2: rather than out in space at the third level and

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01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:19,519
Speaker 2: kept him a productive player in this defense because of it,

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01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:22,679
Speaker 2: But he was no longer an interchangeable safety.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no question. You're right, there's no reason to

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01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:30,000
Speaker 1: think this Bill's team or this roster isn't talented enough.

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01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:33,680
Speaker 1: And certainly they've got, you know, the coaching staff that

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01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:36,719
Speaker 1: has proven the ability to put it together. But here's

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01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:39,439
Speaker 1: the one question there is isn't whether the Bills are

1440
01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:41,080
Speaker 1: going to contend or isn't whether they're going to have

1441
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:42,920
Speaker 1: a good team or win a lot of games. I

1442
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:46,640
Speaker 1: think the real question, and the legitimate question even for US,

1443
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:51,519
Speaker 1: is can they get by the AFC Division round, can

1444
01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:53,360
Speaker 1: they get back to the championship game, and can they

1445
01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:55,800
Speaker 1: win it? Can they get those last two games and

1446
01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:57,320
Speaker 1: get to the Super Bowl and win the Super Bowl.

1447
01:17:57,800 --> 01:18:00,000
Speaker 1: That's Those are the steps we've never seen this team

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01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:03,320
Speaker 1: even get to. They've been They've taken teams that didn't

1449
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:05,519
Speaker 1: think it didn't look like they were good enough and

1450
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:08,000
Speaker 1: gotten there. But they can't get past that. So I

1451
01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:09,880
Speaker 1: don't think there's any question that's right where they're gonna

1452
01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:11,880
Speaker 1: get to this year. The question is will they have

1453
01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:15,040
Speaker 1: that one two, one or two plays? That's it, one

1454
01:18:15,160 --> 01:18:17,080
Speaker 1: or two plays at the end of it. They're gonna

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01:18:17,120 --> 01:18:18,439
Speaker 1: extend their season another week.

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01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:20,760
Speaker 2: Gotta take a break here, but more of your phone

1457
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:22,559
Speaker 2: calls when we come back. We'll lead off with Mark

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01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:24,760
Speaker 2: and Orchard Park. When we return here on One Bill's Live,

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01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:42,160
Speaker 2: presented by Colida Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Back here

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01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:44,040
Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live, Chris Brown steves. He ask her

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01:18:44,120 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 2: on a Tuesday and has the Bills off season changed?

1462
01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:52,200
Speaker 3: How seriously you take the Bills doubters?

1463
01:18:52,240 --> 01:18:54,120
Speaker 2: You let us know At eight three h five fifty

1464
01:18:54,479 --> 01:18:56,800
Speaker 2: Back to the phones, we go into Mark in Orchard Park.

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01:18:56,840 --> 01:18:57,639
Speaker 3: What do you got for us? Mark?

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01:18:58,800 --> 01:18:59,200
Speaker 4: All right?

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01:19:00,080 --> 01:19:02,880
Speaker 9: The Dowters, You know, I love these guys. I talk

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01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:05,400
Speaker 9: to you you know, I'm on the show, you know,

1469
01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:10,200
Speaker 9: every so many months. But it's when you have an

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01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:15,720
Speaker 9: individual like Josh Allen he is going to eat this up.

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01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:21,080
Speaker 9: He doesn't. He's the guy he's going to be. He's

1472
01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:24,920
Speaker 9: going to be like the point guard on a basketball team.

1473
01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:29,080
Speaker 9: Now he has so many tools I think, to work

1474
01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:33,000
Speaker 9: with where he hasn't had that in the last few years.

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01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:35,800
Speaker 9: The Biose are going to be a lot faster, a

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01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:40,520
Speaker 9: lot quicker. And you know, with James Cook in the backfield,

1477
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:45,240
Speaker 9: I really love what's going to happen. So the Dowters

1478
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:50,479
Speaker 9: need to, you know, close their doors. But I'll leave

1479
01:19:50,520 --> 01:19:52,479
Speaker 9: it at that, so thank you, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, fair enough, Mark, Well, I'll say they I'll clarify.

1481
01:19:54,760 --> 01:19:57,120
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like he didn't have weapons the

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01:19:57,160 --> 01:19:59,200
Speaker 1: last few years. Steph Diggs was a heck of a weapon.

1483
01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:01,120
Speaker 1: He's a great player, still is gonna and he's gonna

1484
01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 1: play well for Houston. So Steph Diggs was a really

1485
01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:06,800
Speaker 1: good weapons. James Cook was there last year, Khalis Shakir

1486
01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:09,360
Speaker 1: was there last year. Kin kid, he's had weapons. I

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01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:14,400
Speaker 1: think the thought process now for the bills and the

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01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:16,760
Speaker 1: weapons around Josh. And you're right, I mean Josh is

1489
01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:19,080
Speaker 1: this underdog stuff. Josh is gonna eat it up, and

1490
01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:22,320
Speaker 1: not just Josh, but the whole roster. I mean, when

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01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:27,280
Speaker 1: you start getting people throwing dirt on you, it's exactly

1492
01:20:27,400 --> 01:20:30,360
Speaker 1: the kind of mind frame that the pro athletes eat up.

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01:20:30,920 --> 01:20:34,120
Speaker 1: It's us against them when when everybody doubts you, there's

1494
01:20:34,240 --> 01:20:38,240
Speaker 1: nothing better than proving people wrong. But I'll say this,

1495
01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:42,840
Speaker 1: I think the thing about the weapons he has this

1496
01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:46,320
Speaker 1: year is that there is at this point nobody who's

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01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:50,120
Speaker 1: going to command one hundred and fifty targets.

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01:20:51,320 --> 01:20:54,800
Speaker 2: It'll probably be a more balanced share at least across

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01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:56,000
Speaker 2: the top three targets.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, And maybe there's two sides of this one.

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01:20:59,479 --> 01:21:02,439
Speaker 1: Defenses will not know who the primary target is always

1502
01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:05,120
Speaker 1: gonna be because with Steph on the on the roster,

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01:21:05,200 --> 01:21:07,040
Speaker 1: he's gonna command. I mean, you're gonna throw it at

1504
01:21:07,120 --> 01:21:09,760
Speaker 1: him because the guy comes to two hundred and sixty, right,

1505
01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:12,120
Speaker 1: So you're gonna say, well, that guy's a guy we

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01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:14,560
Speaker 1: got to start with all the time. Maybe not so

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01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:19,920
Speaker 1: much for the bills this next year now, as unless

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01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:24,840
Speaker 1: one of these guys like Shakir or Kincaid or Claypool

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01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:27,640
Speaker 1: or Holland's or we take your pick. Unless one of

1510
01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:31,799
Speaker 1: these guys turns out to be this dude in this offense,

1511
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:35,760
Speaker 1: defenses will say we're not gonna worry too much about

1512
01:21:35,800 --> 01:21:39,160
Speaker 1: any of them. And that's when I think Josh Allen

1513
01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:40,880
Speaker 1: can say, you know what I got the we're gonna

1514
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:44,040
Speaker 1: do it because these guys are all dependable finger quotes,

1515
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:46,920
Speaker 1: dependable and not if I mean goodness, gracious, these guys,

1516
01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:51,920
Speaker 1: a lot of them have got, you know, some chops

1517
01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:55,400
Speaker 1: in the NFL. So I'm I'm kind of with you.

1518
01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:58,000
Speaker 1: I I I don't mind the fact that it's for fans.

1519
01:21:58,040 --> 01:22:00,400
Speaker 1: It's like, great, we don't have to know that Steph

1520
01:22:00,439 --> 01:22:02,479
Speaker 1: Diggs is going to get this ball in this situation,

1521
01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:06,920
Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot of guys available, and until

1522
01:22:07,040 --> 01:22:09,320
Speaker 1: one of these guys emerges as you know, the big

1523
01:22:09,520 --> 01:22:12,320
Speaker 1: or the lead dog in the pack, hey throw it

1524
01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:14,400
Speaker 1: to anybody who's open, and it's a great place for

1525
01:22:14,439 --> 01:22:16,559
Speaker 1: a quarterback to be. That's kind of the thought process

1526
01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:18,240
Speaker 1: that I think Bill's fans are in.

1527
01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:18,519
Speaker 7: Now.

1528
01:22:19,640 --> 01:22:21,960
Speaker 1: We don't have this weight of this number one receiver

1529
01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:25,599
Speaker 1: who's going to command the ball, even when they've got

1530
01:22:25,600 --> 01:22:29,160
Speaker 1: a guy over here running free on the other side

1531
01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:30,640
Speaker 1: of the field. So there's a little bit of that,

1532
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:32,760
Speaker 1: but I think Josh has had plenty of weapons over

1533
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:34,760
Speaker 1: the last three or four years. This is the team

1534
01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:37,120
Speaker 1: I'm telling I'll say it again, man, you got to know.

1535
01:22:37,680 --> 01:22:41,600
Speaker 1: Yet they have stagnated at the division round of the

1536
01:22:41,680 --> 01:22:44,960
Speaker 1: playoffs for last three years. After going to the AFC

1537
01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:49,040
Speaker 1: Championship Game back in twenty twenty, they've kind of They're

1538
01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:52,120
Speaker 1: stuck at the divisional round of the playoffs, no question

1539
01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:56,560
Speaker 1: about it. But they have been good enough to go

1540
01:22:56,720 --> 01:22:59,080
Speaker 1: to and win it all in any of those years,

1541
01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 1: A player two away from extending the season every single year.

1542
01:23:04,800 --> 01:23:07,280
Speaker 1: That's the frustrating part. And that's why I think as

1543
01:23:07,320 --> 01:23:10,240
Speaker 1: a national when you're not invested neck deep like Bills

1544
01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:13,960
Speaker 1: fans are the people in Miami or San Diego or

1545
01:23:14,200 --> 01:23:17,560
Speaker 1: La Chicago, They're all like going, ah, those guys, they're

1546
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:20,519
Speaker 1: just not good enough there. Well they are. They just

1547
01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:22,280
Speaker 1: got to find a way to get those last three

1548
01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:25,560
Speaker 1: plays in to extend their season, and they're gonna be

1549
01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:28,120
Speaker 1: there again this year, maybe even better.

1550
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:32,800
Speaker 3: Let's crack open the tweet sheet, which we have yet

1551
01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:33,040
Speaker 3: to do.

1552
01:23:33,720 --> 01:23:36,800
Speaker 2: As Buffalo's offseason changed, how seriously, You take the Bills

1553
01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:39,360
Speaker 2: doubters tweet sheet brought to you by Corgan Moving Systems,

1554
01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:42,280
Speaker 2: the official equipment moving company of the Buffalo Bills, and

1555
01:23:42,479 --> 01:23:45,600
Speaker 2: Seth says, Yes, for the better though I'm drinking the

1556
01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:50,400
Speaker 2: everybody eats kool aid. Let seventeen distribute the ball instead

1557
01:23:50,439 --> 01:23:52,719
Speaker 2: of force feeding digs. Use the old line to pound

1558
01:23:52,720 --> 01:23:55,439
Speaker 2: the rock with cooking company, Younger and faster on defense,

1559
01:23:55,479 --> 01:23:58,040
Speaker 2: stouter up front, fingers crossed for a better pass rush.

1560
01:23:58,479 --> 01:24:01,640
Speaker 3: Let them sleep on us. There are a lot of

1561
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:04,400
Speaker 3: Bills fans that like it when people count the Bills out.

1562
01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:08,880
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, man, man, people love it. They Yeah,

1563
01:24:09,080 --> 01:24:11,080
Speaker 1: it's the best. It's the best feeling in the world

1564
01:24:11,160 --> 01:24:12,880
Speaker 1: when you put it back in somebody's face.

1565
01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:17,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, Carl says, I don't take them seriously, the doubters.

1566
01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:19,960
Speaker 2: Last I checked, Josh Allen's still under center, and it

1567
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:21,720
Speaker 2: looks like Brady wants the ball in the hands of

1568
01:24:21,720 --> 01:24:24,799
Speaker 2: the playmakers so they can do damage after the catch. Plus,

1569
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:27,600
Speaker 2: if the defense can stay healthier than last year, I

1570
01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:28,960
Speaker 2: think the Bills are in a good place.

1571
01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:30,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1572
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:31,400
Speaker 3: Player health has been a little bit.

1573
01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:33,640
Speaker 2: Of a bugaboo when the team has gotten to the

1574
01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:36,719
Speaker 2: playoffs the last couple of years. Anyway, you know, Daikwon

1575
01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:40,840
Speaker 2: Jones is a game day scratch in the divisional round

1576
01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:44,080
Speaker 2: against the Bengals two years ago, and it's like, Oh,

1577
01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:47,080
Speaker 2: our best run defender and what happens Joe Mixon runs

1578
01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:48,280
Speaker 2: for like one fifty.

1579
01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:50,400
Speaker 3: Three and they had no answer.

1580
01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:51,040
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1581
01:24:51,479 --> 01:24:54,360
Speaker 2: Jeremy on the Tweets sheet says, it's a fine line

1582
01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:58,040
Speaker 2: between Bill's fandom and Bill's reality.

1583
01:24:58,520 --> 01:24:59,880
Speaker 3: I do truly believe this.

1584
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,360
Speaker 2: This is the most talented team all around we've seen

1585
01:25:02,920 --> 01:25:05,880
Speaker 2: in the Josh Allen era. Not the best per se,

1586
01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:10,920
Speaker 2: but most talented. Lack of star power won't convince anyone

1587
01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:14,880
Speaker 2: outside looking in. Yeah, and that's what it's about. The

1588
01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:20,240
Speaker 2: national perspective is all about household names, name recognition. That's

1589
01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:22,760
Speaker 2: why people are goga for the Texans. They had a

1590
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:25,639
Speaker 2: they had a good year last year, and they've added

1591
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:30,120
Speaker 2: household names like Danielle Hunter, Stefan Diggs and others, and

1592
01:25:30,200 --> 01:25:30,680
Speaker 2: so they're like.

1593
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:33,639
Speaker 3: Oh, they're loaded for bear. They're going.

1594
01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:36,839
Speaker 2: They haven't played a first place schedule yet, Let's.

1595
01:25:36,640 --> 01:25:37,360
Speaker 3: See how they do with that.

1596
01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:39,720
Speaker 1: That's right, Uh, there is something in that.

1597
01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:39,960
Speaker 2: Now.

1598
01:25:40,040 --> 01:25:44,880
Speaker 1: Their their division is weak compared to you know, the

1599
01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:49,000
Speaker 1: East of the North in the AFC. You know, they've

1600
01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:51,320
Speaker 1: got a quarterback in Anthony Richardson they're gonna deal with

1601
01:25:51,439 --> 01:25:56,120
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis. Maybe he'll stay healthy, maybe he won't. Jacksonville

1602
01:25:56,840 --> 01:26:00,639
Speaker 1: just signed Trevor Lawrence to an extension after his worst

1603
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:02,880
Speaker 1: year as a pro or at least a step back

1604
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:07,679
Speaker 1: year as a pro. And Tennessee is in a total

1605
01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:13,240
Speaker 1: state of rebuild. So yeah, they've they've got an easier

1606
01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:16,759
Speaker 1: division schedule than the Bills or the Jets.

1607
01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:18,200
Speaker 3: But they got to play the Ravens.

1608
01:26:18,240 --> 01:26:20,479
Speaker 1: But they're gonna, Yeah, they're gonna to play the Bills.

1609
01:26:20,760 --> 01:26:22,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, they got to play the Chiefs.

1610
01:26:22,720 --> 01:26:25,040
Speaker 2: You know, those are the teams they're playing this year now,

1611
01:26:25,880 --> 01:26:31,280
Speaker 2: you know. And look at that at the end, Dolphins, Chiefs, Ravens, Titans.

1612
01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:34,280
Speaker 2: That's a that's a fun stretch run there for the

1613
01:26:34,360 --> 01:26:35,599
Speaker 2: Texans after their bye week.

1614
01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:40,000
Speaker 1: And they got the Lions too, goodness gracious. Yeah. So yeah,

1615
01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:42,679
Speaker 1: and the Pack the first play schedule, Lions in the Packs.

1616
01:26:42,920 --> 01:26:44,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, plays a little different.

1617
01:26:44,160 --> 01:26:46,720
Speaker 1: Listen, listen West where we live, that's where we've been

1618
01:26:46,760 --> 01:26:49,200
Speaker 1: for the last half dozen years. We're playing first play schedule.

1619
01:26:49,280 --> 01:26:54,320
Speaker 1: So it's we'll see and not listen to that. A

1620
01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:56,320
Speaker 1: nice year. They're a good team and they're there and

1621
01:26:56,400 --> 01:26:59,040
Speaker 1: people are going crazy over them. But people have gone

1622
01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:00,800
Speaker 1: crazy over the Bills and those years too, and they

1623
01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:03,920
Speaker 1: got the Bills. What the division division championship and the

1624
01:27:03,960 --> 01:27:08,320
Speaker 1: division round of the playoffs, Well, we'll see.

1625
01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:09,360
Speaker 3: It's hard.

1626
01:27:09,439 --> 01:27:11,240
Speaker 1: It's a hard final step to make. The Bills are

1627
01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:11,840
Speaker 1: testament to that.

1628
01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:13,360
Speaker 3: Break time for us.

1629
01:27:13,400 --> 01:27:15,400
Speaker 2: Here. Some final thoughts on the tweet sheet when we

1630
01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:35,439
Speaker 2: return here on One Bill's Live stay with us, all right,

1631
01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:38,240
Speaker 2: some final thoughts on the tweet sheet here, Luke says, No,

1632
01:27:38,479 --> 01:27:41,679
Speaker 2: I still don't take the doubters seriously, maybe even less serious.

1633
01:27:42,040 --> 01:27:44,400
Speaker 2: I think the conversation about operating without a number one

1634
01:27:44,439 --> 01:27:47,560
Speaker 2: receiver yesterday was great. I love Diggs and thought he

1635
01:27:47,640 --> 01:27:50,240
Speaker 2: was an excellent player. But I think Josh, we'll be

1636
01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:53,080
Speaker 2: able to play freer this year and he'll play at

1637
01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:54,639
Speaker 2: an MVP level.

1638
01:27:55,160 --> 01:27:59,760
Speaker 1: Here's the big here's the big challenge. No question, when

1639
01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:02,000
Speaker 1: you when you leave, when a good player leaves your team,

1640
01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:05,280
Speaker 1: it's hard to replace him, particularly a guy like Steph Diggs.

1641
01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:08,840
Speaker 1: But I'll say this too, if the Bills can get

1642
01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:10,840
Speaker 1: out of the gate and start winning games with this

1643
01:28:11,479 --> 01:28:13,679
Speaker 1: we're all in it together mentality is a wide receiver

1644
01:28:13,800 --> 01:28:17,240
Speaker 1: without having a Steph Diggs getting twelve targets a game

1645
01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:20,439
Speaker 1: or whatever. If they can get that and start winning,

1646
01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:23,920
Speaker 1: you'll never hear an NFL player complain about their role

1647
01:28:23,960 --> 01:28:26,479
Speaker 1: when the team's winning. Even if they're not happy with it,

1648
01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:28,960
Speaker 1: they still can't complain because the team's winning. It's so

1649
01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:31,519
Speaker 1: hard to win. If they can start out and get

1650
01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:33,680
Speaker 1: out of the gates and start winning games, it may

1651
01:28:33,800 --> 01:28:36,640
Speaker 1: start to steamroll really fast and then you're in a

1652
01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:39,639
Speaker 1: great spot. But I think that's what it takes. No question,

1653
01:28:39,800 --> 01:28:44,600
Speaker 1: winning cures every problem. But if you're good enough, you

1654
01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:45,960
Speaker 1: got to do it. You got to get it done

1655
01:28:46,320 --> 01:28:48,599
Speaker 1: early so that you can get this going.

1656
01:28:49,160 --> 01:28:51,600
Speaker 2: Steven on the tweets, she says, no, most of the

1657
01:28:51,680 --> 01:28:53,840
Speaker 2: doubters are spot on unless they think we're worse than

1658
01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:56,040
Speaker 2: the Jets and we'll finish with nine wins or less.

1659
01:28:56,640 --> 01:28:59,080
Speaker 2: Connor says, I don't take the doubters seriously at all.

1660
01:28:59,160 --> 01:29:01,080
Speaker 2: Buffalo is proven time and again that they are a

1661
01:29:01,160 --> 01:29:04,120
Speaker 2: force in the AFC. I like that everyone is counting

1662
01:29:04,200 --> 01:29:06,679
Speaker 2: them out. Let all the pressure be on the Jets.

1663
01:29:07,160 --> 01:29:09,080
Speaker 2: And the Dolphins no Bills.

1664
01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:11,160
Speaker 1: There is less pressure on the Bills because the Bills

1665
01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:12,719
Speaker 1: have been doing it for four years and just following

1666
01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:16,439
Speaker 1: that one step shorter, the two steps short, they're right

1667
01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:20,120
Speaker 1: there at the end. They've got great moments throughout every

1668
01:29:20,200 --> 01:29:21,800
Speaker 1: season that you want to see them. So they've done.

1669
01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:24,960
Speaker 1: The Jets were a train wreck last year after Rogers

1670
01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:29,800
Speaker 1: went down, and the Dolphins absolutely blew an engine with

1671
01:29:29,920 --> 01:29:30,280
Speaker 1: a month and.

1672
01:29:30,280 --> 01:29:31,200
Speaker 3: A half, they fizzled.

1673
01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:32,639
Speaker 1: At the end of the year, they blew an engine

1674
01:29:32,680 --> 01:29:35,400
Speaker 1: and the Bills walking. They had a three game lead

1675
01:29:35,479 --> 01:29:37,479
Speaker 1: in the division with five games to play, the Bills

1676
01:29:37,520 --> 01:29:40,599
Speaker 1: beat them and got the two seed. That's a rough finish.

1677
01:29:41,439 --> 01:29:44,360
Speaker 2: That's about it for us today. I will be out

1678
01:29:44,400 --> 01:29:46,960
Speaker 2: for a couple of days here. Chris Chiapasso will fill

1679
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:50,759
Speaker 2: in with Steve Big. Soccer Day today, Euro Semi Final

1680
01:29:50,880 --> 01:29:55,559
Speaker 2: number one Francis Spain Argentina against Canada tonight in Copa America.

1681
01:29:55,920 --> 01:29:58,280
Speaker 3: Check it out, people, We'll see you.

1682
01:30:06,680 --> 01:30:06,720
Speaker 5: He