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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, presented by DraftKings Sportsbook, where we

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Speaker 1: don't know if we did or didn't raw dog on

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Speaker 1: the flight over here. I am Greg Rosenthal at the

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Speaker 1: Greenwood Sports bub here in London, and yes it's a

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Speaker 1: Chicago Bears bar in the middle of London. And Nate

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Speaker 1: Matt asked me a question before the show. I'm here

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Speaker 1: with Nat Coombs and Ollie Connolly, two of my favorite

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Speaker 1: voices over in the UK, talking American football as you

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Speaker 1: guys would call it.

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Speaker 2: And you asked me a question. I didn't know the

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Speaker 3: Nat.

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Speaker 4: We got to put the context of the rule dog

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Speaker 4: reference within the first five seconds off the show. We're

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Speaker 4: going to give that context. So as Ollie as you

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Speaker 4: bought me up here, pretty stand a question, Greg, how

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Speaker 4: was the flight? Did you rule dog on the flight?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I know what raw dog means, but not

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Speaker 2: in the context of a flight. What does that mean?

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Speaker 1: Not having Well, I know what it means, but in

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Speaker 4: That's a part of it. Yeah, it's a kind of

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Speaker 4: extreme in flight movies, there's no nothing, you're just staring meditate.

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Speaker 6: I think you're supposed to just sit in a zen

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Speaker 6: like stage for as long as the flight you can't move,

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Speaker 4: Anything, which is actually how I prepare for this show.

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Speaker 2: No, I did not row dog.

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Speaker 1: I did not have any drinks, but I did crank

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Speaker 1: through a decent amount of Love is Blind season seven

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Speaker 1: or whatever whatever we're on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like three three episodes.

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Speaker 1: Did some prep for this show because I knew I

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Speaker 1: had to keep up with you guys. Nat Coombs, of course,

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Speaker 1: is the announcer on Talks for Radio. He's got his

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Speaker 1: own podcasts, the Nat Coombs podcast You get you gotta

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Speaker 1: check it out. And Ali Connelly is getting it done

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Speaker 1: on the Read Optional podcast. He's finally gotten rid of

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Speaker 1: worrying about soccer and he's focused on the most important

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Speaker 1: football And yeah, you're doing that podcast twice a week

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Speaker 1: with John Ledyard and it is.

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Speaker 2: It is absolutely great.

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Speaker 1: If we can do one thing here, it's getting people

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Speaker 1: to check out the Nacoons podcast and sign up for

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Speaker 1: the Read Optional.

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Speaker 4: This plug podcast central. I want to put in context

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Speaker 4: for all your American listeners. Ollie and I so Olli

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Speaker 4: the UK. He's like an MIT professor. I'm like the

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Speaker 4: fourth grade high school teacher that comes into school, takes

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Speaker 4: roll call and then puts on a movie for forty

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Speaker 1: That not true, not true. But we will be cranking

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Speaker 1: through all the games. And yes, Nat, you do have

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Speaker 1: a way with presenting. And I met Nat and Will Gavin,

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Speaker 1: who's going to be on the show on Sunday with

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Speaker 1: me and Alie. I think it was about eight years

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Speaker 1: ago covering a Rams Giants game back. NFL Media actually

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Speaker 1: which is hard to imagine them doing now.

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Speaker 2: And that was yeah, case keen last start as in La.

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Speaker 1: Ram and I remember asking the question the Jeff Fisher

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Speaker 1: the Jared goff Era started in Los Angeles. We will

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Speaker 1: get to every game. We're basically doing the same previous

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Speaker 1: show that we do each and every week. We'll get

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Speaker 1: to the game at Tottenham in a little bit, but

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Speaker 1: will start with one of my favorite topics these days,

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Speaker 1: New York two and a half point underdogs. Ali, you're

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Speaker 1: one of the foremost Nathaniel Hackett defenders in the media.

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Speaker 6: Explain why I'm not a defender. I would like the

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Speaker 6: then I read this everywhere, and I've seen this on

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Speaker 6: They have tried to do plenty of things. They've run

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Speaker 6: The only one that's slightly different is the motion rate. Well,

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Speaker 5: They run a lot of the stuff everyone else runs.

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Speaker 4: It's quite a big drawback if you're an offensive corner

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Speaker 1: They are running a lot of the cool stuff that

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Speaker 1: other people run. Before we started, I got to look

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Speaker 1: that conversation, like how much you believe in him?

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Speaker 2: And I have to believe that did not happen.

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Speaker 4: You would think about quarterbacks and decline it always remember

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Speaker 4: broke gradually then suddenly right right? That doesn't appear to

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Speaker 4: be happening with Rogers. To your point, there are flashes moments,

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Speaker 1: I mean, but even if you do, I kind of

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Speaker 1: Like he knows that not bringing up Robert Zell and

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Speaker 1: coach jeff Aulbrick is going to bring accountability.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know in a way that we need in the.

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Speaker 1: Building and that we need accountability all throughout the roster.

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Speaker 6: I may be naive on this, but I really don't

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Speaker 4: But isn't isn't the you know the point Greg's making

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Speaker 4: that the silence speaks volumes, and that he if Aaron

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Speaker 6: I think when you just run through what's wrong with

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Speaker 5: Terrible, right, It's been brutal.

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Speaker 6: They can't run the ball, they can't protect, they can't

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Speaker 5: Then you've got the issues with the offense.

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Speaker 6: I'm sure he've detailed a million times between both Rodgers

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Speaker 6: nothing for your locker room. That Rogers is not going

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Speaker 6: So the only thing they could pull to try and

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Speaker 1: I mean, we've seen it with this ownership group before

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Speaker 1: And unfortunately for Robert Sally, you can look at all

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Speaker 1: looks like we're doing something when you look at this

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Speaker 6: Then can you get into favorable down and distance? The

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Speaker 1: It was crazy to see him come back in that

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Speaker 1: Right, but like all the incompletions that happened before that,

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Speaker 2: It's like, how come they're not cheating him the same

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Speaker 1: It's like, you got a fair point. All right, let's

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Speaker 1: It does look like it's gonna be Will Levis. There

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Speaker 4: And breaking simultaneously right, and.

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Speaker 1: So it could be a bit of a get right

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Speaker 4: Comeback starts right here. I feel that is partially responsible

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Speaker 1: Everyone in our UK American football like society is either Ali.

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Speaker 6: It's really high pressure. These guys got mortgages to pay,

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Speaker 6: the pass, why would you not put the guy who's

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Speaker 6: way more methodical and can dim it down the field

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Speaker 6: as opposed to bringing Rison back where I tway more

441
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Speaker 6: boom bust, you a more room game concentrated. It's actually

442
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Speaker 6: much it wise would make more sense to me to

443
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Speaker 6: just roll with Fleco anyway.

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Speaker 1: That that does make sense, And yet you just have

445
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Speaker 1: because of the lack of starts. Richardson it said you

446
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Speaker 1: have this is the year that you have to get

447
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Speaker 1: him those starts. The chances of making the playoffs with

448
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Speaker 1: Joe Flacco is in theory incrementally better. I don't know

449
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Speaker 1: if that would actually play out, and either even then,

450
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Speaker 1: I don't think it's especially high. If this defense doesn't

451
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Speaker 1: get any better. Since we last tape, they announced Michael

452
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Speaker 1: Pittman is going to miss multiple weeks. Josh Downs was

453
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Speaker 1: out of practice. He finished that game, so I would

454
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Speaker 1: expect that he's playing. My fantasy pickup of Josh Downs

455
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Speaker 1: is feeling better every week Josh Downs can play, although

456
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Speaker 1: all those guys are probably a little happier when Flaco's back.

457
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Speaker 1: I mean, I watched that Flacco game too, and it

458
00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,080
Speaker 1: was very similar to last year with the Browns. Whereas

459
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Speaker 1: you can watch the Joe Flacco game and look at

460
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Speaker 1: the box score afterwards and be like man through two quarters,

461
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Speaker 1: like through a big.

462
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Speaker 2: Chunks of Joe Flacco games.

463
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Speaker 1: He's making some crazy decisions and missing some throws too.

464
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Speaker 2: It's not like it's.

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Speaker 1: All you know with Joe Flacco, but his great throws

466
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Speaker 1: are great, and he is he's not afraid, and he's

467
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Speaker 1: fun to watch.

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Speaker 6: He plays not afraid is the point. It's almost the

469
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Speaker 6: point of boredom with him. He just like gets the

470
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Speaker 6: ball out and he looks like he's like dulls by

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Speaker 6: the fact that he's completing throws.

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Speaker 5: It's just like, Okay, this is what I'm asked to do. Yeah.

473
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Speaker 6: Yeah, obviously with rich and you get the upside. They

474
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Speaker 6: got to find out what they have, but they got

475
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Speaker 6: issues up from with the offensive line. He is not

476
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Speaker 6: a guy who's figuring out the protections and all the

477
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Speaker 6: mechanics and that stuff. They got a Ryan Kelly injury.

478
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Speaker 6: They got an injury right tackle. They got to figure

479
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Speaker 6: out if that's to go this week. I think it's

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Speaker 6: difficult to drop someone in and when you rip Ryan

481
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Speaker 6: Kelly out the lineup and they do a lot of

482
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Speaker 6: different things in the protection, will you take him out?

483
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Speaker 6: And you've got to have Richardson do that stuff or

484
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Speaker 6: a backup coming and do that stuff that now you're

485
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Speaker 6: going to consume when you're facing a team you should

486
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Speaker 6: really be able to attack with that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's a bit of a relevance ball here

488
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Speaker 1: because if Titans lose at home to the Colts at

489
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Speaker 1: a time I mean, people have probably written them off already,

490
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Speaker 1: but that would be the time to do it.

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Speaker 2: At one in five you're you're in a very good spot.

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Speaker 1: Then again, if the Colts get to two and four,

493
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Speaker 1: they are also in a tough spot. So a big

494
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Speaker 1: game for these two teams at actually in the AFC South.

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Speaker 1: All Right, it is time for the Sneaky Good Game

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Speaker 1: of the Week, presented by DraftKings Sports book. I'm going

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Speaker 1: Chargers Bronco says the sneaky Good Game of the week

498
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Speaker 1: just because I'm these two teams. I just don't know

499
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Speaker 1: what to think about either of these teams. The Chargers

500
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Speaker 1: are favored by three on the road in Denver, which

501
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Speaker 1: is an amazing amount of disrespect from Vegas for the Broncos.

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Speaker 2: After the last couple of weeks.

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Speaker 1: This is a three and two team with a legitimately

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Speaker 1: good defense who are playing a Kami Kazi like style

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Speaker 1: of game. They are blitzing at a fifty four rate

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Speaker 1: on first down, which is which is just wild. And

507
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Speaker 1: they are they're creating like the the third highest pressure rate,

508
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Speaker 1: or they're playing against the team rather who's giving up

509
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Speaker 1: the third highest pressure rate in the in the Chargers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, which is surprising.

511
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Speaker 1: You you thought their offensive line was gonna be great,

512
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Speaker 1: and they're they're a strange team because Herbert is getting

513
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Speaker 1: rid of the ball pretty quickly, but on the plays

514
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Speaker 1: that he is in, it's like he's holding it on

515
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Speaker 1: a long time and he's getting hit quite a bit.

516
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Speaker 1: Joe all and the right at right tackle and Rossan Slater.

517
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Speaker 1: We're back at practice for this game. They're going up

518
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Speaker 1: against a great cornerback duo. I could put Riley Moss

519
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Speaker 1: in a sentence with great right now, he's playing well.

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Speaker 1: At least he's playing well enough because he's supported by

521
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Speaker 1: the pressure. How do you see it when the Chargers

522
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Speaker 1: have the ball ali against this defense, which has been

523
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Speaker 1: pretty fun to watch.

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Speaker 5: They've been so good.

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Speaker 6: Zach Allen has been one of the best players in

526
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Speaker 6: the NFL, and he's still one of the underrated players.

527
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Speaker 6: I mean, he's been dominant inside. What's so fun about

528
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Speaker 6: watching them is how well they just play as a collective,

529
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Speaker 6: as a unit. They all perform their roles like to

530
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Speaker 6: an unbelievable degree. Everything is built as a as a

531
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Speaker 6: group rather than having different you mentioned the blitz packages.

532
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Speaker 6: It's not built in a way to feature one person

533
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Speaker 6: or to try and tilt the protection in one way.

534
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Speaker 6: It's a really layered design where everyone has to be

535
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Speaker 6: like at the absolute apex step, I was down and

536
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Speaker 6: down out. So the fact it's humming so well when

537
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Speaker 6: there's so many moving eastes, everyone has to perform those

538
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Speaker 6: three and here he guys have been unbelievable.

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Speaker 5: I think it's it's gonna be a difficult one.

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Speaker 6: I just don't think that the challenges right now have

541
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Speaker 6: enough like easy get out escape valves. So when the

542
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Speaker 6: pressure is arriving, unless it's love McConney, who's been really

543
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Speaker 6: really impressed, probably should have way higher production than he

544
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Speaker 6: actually has, and we get mcconchney on must I think

545
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Speaker 6: at some point it's going to break the internet.

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Speaker 5: I think we'll get that at some point.

547
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Speaker 2: Yes, Riley Moss has been breaking barriers.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm genuinely surprised it's not a bigger story that

549
00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 1: a white cornerback is out here making like I mean,

550
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 1: he most a guy on an interception last week that

551
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Speaker 1: was a fantastic play. All the metrics are fantastic for him.

552
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Speaker 1: He's certainly supported by the coverages rolled to his side.

553
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Speaker 2: But yeah, McConkie's playing well.

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Speaker 1: I thought their last game before the bye was certainly

555
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Speaker 1: the game where you saw the most mcconkee from college

556
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Speaker 1: come out, and so that's exciting to see. On the

557
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Speaker 1: other side, bo Nicks has averaged two point two yards

558
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Speaker 1: per attempt when under pressure this year, which is just

559
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,760
Speaker 1: like a wild stat Like as much as they're building

560
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 1: him up as he's a great leader and he's a winner.

561
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Speaker 1: The best news for him not just the defense playing great,

562
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Speaker 1: but Javante Williams has played well the last couple of weeks.

563
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Speaker 1: They have gotten a pretty traditional running game going two

564
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Speaker 1: weeks in a row, and I think that's the way

565
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Speaker 1: you got to attack the charity.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we're talked about the charges banged up O

568
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Speaker 4: line and Joel if he's back, that's a massive plus,

569
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Speaker 4: But the Broncos alies be banged up as well, so

570
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 4: you got to put that in context a little bit.

571
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Speaker 4: Bonus fascinates me because it's that draft and I'm definitely

572
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Speaker 4: gonna get into Michael Pennocks and then later on I'm

573
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Speaker 4: just gonna trail that right now, that draft and all that,

574
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Speaker 4: it seems to be a really divisive pick half Roughly,

575
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,640
Speaker 4: while it's a reach, they're panicking, they just need someone

576
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,400
Speaker 4: they've got anyone other half Peyton knows what he's doing.

577
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 4: He knows his guy, He's got his guy, so you

578
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 4: part of that. Now into the role that they're on,

579
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,479
Speaker 4: they're starting to get a bit of a mentality argument

580
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,600
Speaker 4: that they do the bat on the sidelines last year,

581
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 4: which has blown out of proportion ridiculously. But what that

582
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 4: told me was that Nick's not afraid to step up.

583
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 4: Peyton clearly likes what he sees Nixon very safe hands.

584
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Speaker 4: I think out of all of that class or amongst

585
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:09,400
Speaker 4: that class, preseason, pre draft Bonix trajectory, where it is now,

586
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 4: I think he's landed.

587
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Speaker 2: No, I think you're you're taking the cheese here. I'm

588
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 2: not buying it. Like these two teams in this division, like.

589
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Speaker 1: They're gonna be built up a little bit by their

590
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,400
Speaker 1: schedules all year, and like every week they're just like, oh,

591
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 1: that's a winnable game for the Broncos.

592
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 2: It's partly scheduling. They're doing what they can.

593
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Speaker 1: He's actually been pretty effective when he chooses to run bonecks. Yeah,

594
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Speaker 1: but I'm not gonna give him.

595
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Speaker 5: I'm not buying the Bonnick stuff.

596
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 6: I even go back, there's been some level of progression,

597
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,120
Speaker 6: but to me, it's mostly being them, Like ripping out

598
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 6: core elements to their offense to let him do things

599
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 6: that are really really basic and easy for him to do.

600
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Speaker 5: They still have operational issues.

601
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,880
Speaker 6: They still struggle again plays out of the huddle, They

602
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 6: still struggle with the play clock. He can't really drive

603
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 6: anything down the field unless it's moving and creating in

604
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 6: some way. And this happened with Sean Payton, It's happened

605
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 6: with him before. It happens at times in New Orleans,

606
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 6: it happened with Russell Wilson, where the offense only looks

607
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,640
Speaker 6: really functional when it's the two minute drill or someone's

608
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 6: trying to like creates me out of the structure of

609
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:08,080
Speaker 6: the offense. It just still feels baked in twenty thirteen

610
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 6: to me. And I will give him some credit. He

611
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,400
Speaker 6: has over the past three weeks like thrown in new

612
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 6: things that Nick's running college. I think he realized, like

613
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 6: the guy was, you know, staring in the headlights in

614
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,480
Speaker 6: the first couple leaks and just throwing up a bunch

615
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 6: of panic balls. But he just screams to me of

616
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 6: a guy who unless they're running all the screens, they

617
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,919
Speaker 6: run like fifty to open the week last week, unless

618
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 6: you're really putting him in that shell. He's going to

619
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 6: give the defense opportunities every single year.

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Speaker 1: Now I am selling bonetes at least like right now,

621
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Speaker 1: I'm not counting out like Seohn Payton can build him

622
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 1: up over of course the time, but he's still a

623
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Speaker 1: rookie quarterback.

624
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Speaker 2: And this is a tough matchup.

625
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Speaker 1: You know, Denver's getting all the love on defense, but

626
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 1: Jesse Minter and this Charters team, I'm not exactly sure

627
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 1: what they they're doing, but it's been very sound.

628
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Speaker 2: It's fundamental.

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Speaker 1: They're getting my guy Kristin Fulton playing at a high

630
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 1: level at cornerback. I think like overall, like they are

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Speaker 1: number two in the league right now in DBO eight

632
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Speaker 1: and again at that's very much.

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00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:02,640
Speaker 2: I think about their schedule.

634
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 1: They've had a very beneficial schedule for opposing offense, you know,

635
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 1: for their defense.

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00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 2: But I think they could lock it down.

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Speaker 1: This is this is like a ten to nine game,

638
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 1: which sounds about right, all right.

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Speaker 2: Chargers win.

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Speaker 1: going to Vegas. This is the Iron Eagle Charles Davis game,

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Speaker 1: which means like there's not a lot going on on

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Speaker 1: CBS on Sunday or in the AFC in general. Since

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Speaker 1: we last tape, they announced Christian Wilkins is potentially out

648
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: for the season, but he's definitely on irty, definitely out

649
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: for a while. He hadn't made quite the impact that

650
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 1: I expected this year, maybe because there's been other injuries there.

651
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 2: On the defensive line.

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00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 1: Max Crosby is now in the maintenance portion of his

653
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 1: season where he's like only playing on Sundays but not

654
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 1: practicing throughout the course of the week. Alex high Smith

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Speaker 1: is out for this game for Pittsburgh. Herbig is out

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Speaker 1: for this game for Pittsburgh. Cordrell Patterson is out. They

657
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Speaker 1: might get Jalen Warren back. I do feel like there's

658
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 1: just so many injuries that I got to just bring

659
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 1: that up at the beginning because that makes such an impact.

660
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure what to think about this, like what's

661
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: left of this Steelers team. But this Vegas defense, which

662
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 1: was supposed to kind of be their calling card, has

663
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:30,120
Speaker 1: been just you know, they went with a defensive coach,

664
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Speaker 1: hoping there would be carry over there and it's just

665
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 1: been and now they don't have Christian Wilkins for a while.

666
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Speaker 2: You're your guy from Miami, my guy.

667
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I got it when he left the I mean

668
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 4: the O'Connor getting the starting job, of courses, and that

669
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 4: whole battle I think has been has been fascinating. Petini,

670
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Speaker 4: when you mentioned Antonio and.

671
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Speaker 1: You've recovered me there as a good broadcaster, I should

672
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 1: have mentioned that we have a new starting quarterback here

673
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Speaker 1: for the Las Vegas Raiders.

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Speaker 2: How does it really matter?

675
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 4: Will ask the question, I guess And when Piss got

676
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 4: the gig as the interim gig after the injury, cigars

677
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 4: in the locker room once McDaniel's were one of my favorite,

678
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 4: I think moments in the history of the NFL when

679
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 4: players are celebrating with his cigar McDaniel's is gone. That

680
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 4: was one of his first calls was to was to

681
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 4: make O'Connell the start, so he obviously he obviously likes

682
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 4: likes him. It was literally mins she got the start

683
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 4: at the start of the season. Is it going to

684
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 4: tangibly markedly uplift him. I think there's a lot of

685
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 4: talk of the pick six that Mins threw and his

686
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 4: confidence went and he's obviously such a confidence player. Again,

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Speaker 4: are they looking at a younger quarterback that they think

688
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Speaker 4: they might be able to build something around? Is that

689
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,239
Speaker 4: the upside here for the rest of the season for them?

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Speaker 1: Then maybe he's not even that young of a quarterback.

691
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Speaker 5: They are.

692
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Speaker 6: They are on full on locker room meltdown watch for

693
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Speaker 6: me and I love Antonio.

694
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Speaker 5: I love the vibes. I think that was really fun.

695
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Speaker 6: The back of the last season where you've got the

696
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 6: DeVante Adams situation. You go Phil a raider for now

697
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 6: You're going to AOC and that is going to be

698
00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 6: a mess within three weeks.

699
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Speaker 5: A lot like why did we do that? The go

700
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 5: back to the other guy?

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Speaker 1: That's guy For a second, I was like, is this

702
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 1: like a little bit of a hey, you want to

703
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 1: come back like when you get healthy Devonte, because he

704
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 1: had pretty good numbers with AOC.

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Speaker 6: He has good numbers with everyone. He's Devonte Adams. He

706
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 6: could play with me and not and he would do

707
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Speaker 6: a pretty good job.

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Speaker 2: You've been on the corner of that.

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Speaker 1: DeVante Adams on film does not look no like he's

710
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Speaker 1: declining much. I mean, maybe he's down a little bit

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Speaker 1: from super peak, but that and and yeah, you can

712
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Speaker 1: kind of see it in his big last game that

713
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Speaker 1: he played.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I would say, like five Max, and you take

715
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Speaker 6: five tmcent away from Devantie Adams, you go from the

716
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Speaker 6: best receiver in the league to one of the best

717
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Speaker 6: receivers in the ship. It doesn't make that much of

718
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Speaker 6: a difference. So yeah, I know there's a money situation.

719
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Speaker 6: But if you are a team out the Bill's Chiefs

720
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Speaker 6: Jets who have a looking for some kind of help,

721
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Speaker 6: to me, it would be a no brainer. It's not

722
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Speaker 6: one of these stock declines. And you know, OK, for

723
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Speaker 6: someone from two seasons ago, he's still a major difference makeup.

724
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Speaker 1: And Belichick is on underdog talking with Matt, Patricia and

725
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: Lombardi and it's like, you can't you.

726
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Speaker 2: Can't give up a second.

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Speaker 1: That's two way, like two bigger prices, And that does

728
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 1: seem to be the consensus, and I'm thinking, are what

729
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 1: what are we talking about? First of all, he gave

730
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,719
Speaker 1: up a two for most anew we've seen him like

731
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: once you actually get on draft day, people are thrown

732
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Speaker 1: out two just to go up eight spots in the

733
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Speaker 1: second round. But then you get into the season and

734
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 1: they get so locked in and people say, well, it's

735
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: the contract, it's the contract.

736
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Speaker 5: This year.

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Speaker 2: He's actually quite affordable.

738
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Speaker 1: So as long as you can fit him in, and

739
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: not every team can seamlessly, but basically every team can.

740
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Speaker 1: And it like even the teams like the Saints could

741
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: figure it out by starting to renegotiate elsewhere.

742
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Speaker 2: He's not that expensive this year.

743
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Speaker 1: And I don't know what his situation in terms of

744
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: wanting guaranteed money, but his next two years are exactly

745
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: where you would expect them to be. They're not They're

746
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: not a crazy mount so on that front, like I

747
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,479
Speaker 1: don't I don't get it. But Pierce actually said if

748
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 1: he's healthy, like we expect him to play again for

749
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: the Raiders, we'll see if that happens. Just like very

750
00:31:56,840 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 1: quickly the Alkanell versus Minshew think oh connell takes a

751
00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: lot of chances actually, Like they're kind of similar ish

752
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: quarterbacks to me, except O'Connell he doesn't have a big arm,

753
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: but I think he'll he'll maybe even go deeper down

754
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Speaker 1: the field.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what it is.

756
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 5: I think you're looking for some kind of difference.

757
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 6: I think Antonio piss is to it that they are

758
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 6: pretty much the same profile of play, a slightly different

759
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 6: body type. But when you just kind of like look

760
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 6: through the body of work and what they actually do,

761
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 6: that that pretty much the same player. Maybe once its

762
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 6: slightly more gambles than the other, but it's not like

763
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 6: a MAGA difference, no.

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Speaker 1: And so I think they're gonna struggle against the Steelers

765
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Speaker 1: defense too, which is not the same defense without this

766
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: defensive line and edge rushers.

767
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Speaker 4: And so you've got it either right now, the thirtieth

768
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 4: with the rights that is that can't run the bulls Dickinson.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but like, yeah, the you could see the difference

770
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Speaker 1: when they took her big out of the lineup on

771
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Speaker 1: the Sunday night game that it was. It's a pretty

772
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: big drop off to I think it's Isaiah lauder Milk

773
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: who's like three hundred pounds and they're playing them out

774
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: there as as an edge rusher, and so two banged

775
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Speaker 1: up teams. Let's take a quick break and we'll be

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Speaker 1: back to talk about a fun game in the NFC

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Speaker 1: Lions Cowboys after this, all right, we are back on

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Speaker 1: NFL Daily and yes, if you happen to be in

779
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: the UK or wherever sky Sports NFL is aired, or

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00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: wherever this game is on, I will be on the

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Speaker 1: sky Sports coverage for this next game back in the studio.

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Speaker 1: Lions favored by three points heading to Dallas. This is

783
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Speaker 1: a fun one, a rematch of one of my favorite games,

784
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Speaker 1: probably my favorite regular season game from last season. And

785
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: it wasn't because of the weird, controversial ending, which was

786
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: weird and fun and like annoying that it was controversial.

787
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 1: It was for the other like fifty nine minutes of

788
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Speaker 1: the game. This was an awesome game a year ago.

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Speaker 1: Lions Cowboys. It feels like this is mostly the same

790
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 1: version of the Lions team, but not the same version

791
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: of the Cowboys. Obviously, no Parsons for another week, no

792
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:10,439
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence. We've taken out marsh Neelan, who's a you know,

793
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: a solid.

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Speaker 2: Edge player for them as a rookie.

795
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:15,919
Speaker 1: That they're banged up Dallas, and they're not the same

796
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:17,040
Speaker 1: on offense either.

797
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 2: This time. It feels a little bit more of like

798
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 2: a mismatch for the line.

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Speaker 4: Yeah it does on paper for sure, logic prevailing, but

800
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 4: we've seen so many teams right now that their season

801
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 4: compleat roller either way. There are so many teams clustered

802
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 4: and a number of teams that people are down on,

803
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 4: And I look at Dallas with a fair amount of

804
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 4: upside because they're still in the mix. Look at three

805
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 4: or four things you mentioned. Demarks Lawrence had passons out

806
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 4: and they still win a tight game without it. The

807
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 4: ground game at the moment is non existence. Zeke's done

808
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 4: thirty Carris for ninety eight yards. Dalvin Cook, that's talking

809
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 4: about Abe reupping off.

810
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,399
Speaker 2: The practice squad maybe found something last week.

811
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: I thought with the Steelers, it seemed like they went

812
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: away from some of the zone stuff they were doing

813
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: and just did what had worked for them better, Like

814
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: their offensive line was it. It worked a little better

815
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 1: for one week, So that gave them some hope in

816
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 1: the right way.

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00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 4: They're clearly the market for a receiver. They worked out

818
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 4: Denzil Mims this week, Dotte Pettis as well. They might

819
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 4: be in the Yeah, that will change it, but they might.

820
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 4: They might be in the mix for the Davonte's REEP six.

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Speaker 4: My point is, with all of this, they lead the

822
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 4: league in penalties. That should statistically correct itself they're not

823
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 4: in good shape. Yet they're still in contention. So the

824
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 4: upside for Dallas is they get two or three of

825
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 4: those things right or at least tangibly uplift in a

826
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 4: division that is quite dysfunctional Washington not withstanding, and they

827
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 4: could be in the mix.

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Speaker 5: I don't see it personally.

829
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 6: Their undefense is so bad, and I know they've slightly

830
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 6: course corrected it slightly over the last couple of weeks

831
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 6: when you go through some of the numbers, but it

832
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 6: just structurally is so off, and they don't have the

833
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 6: talent either. I think for this to sustain over the

834
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 6: course of the season, you're facing it where they will

835
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 6: gladly say let's run the ball eighteen of the first

836
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 6: eighteen plays if it's cooking for us. So I think

837
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 6: this has atendal to be a real ugly first half

838
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 6: of Dallas.

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Speaker 5: And I still watch it.

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00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 6: I don't know what you think, right, but I still

841
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 6: watched the Dallas offense and you know, they were driving

842
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 6: the ball pretty comfortably against the Steelers, and Mike tom

843
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 6: was saying just how well Dak Prescott played. I still

844
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 6: watch it, and it always looks more difficult than.

845
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 5: It should be. For them.

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00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 6: Everything just feels like a beat off given some of

847
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 6: the talent they have, how good Dak is. Dak doesn't

848
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,240
Speaker 6: move and create much anymore. He certainly doesn't scramble anymore.

849
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Speaker 6: Everything just feels like they've turned on a degree of

850
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,840
Speaker 6: difficulty setting that is completely unnecessary and they could actually

851
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,479
Speaker 6: be more productive. So when you can't stop the run

852
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 6: and it feels like hard work to generate offense, then

853
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 6: I just don't think it's gonna write itself.

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Speaker 1: Right in this matchup where it's the best running game

855
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: in the league or one of the best running games

856
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 1: in the league. And I saw the Lions practice report

857
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 1: and like everyone practiced, and now you just don't see

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00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 1: that in week six. Now they're coming off of a

859
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: buy and so that's what you want. And yes they

860
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: have a couple guys and I are, but for the

861
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: most part, they're extremely healthy, especially on offense, and you

862
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 1: just think they are gonna mash like this this Mike

863
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:07,439
Speaker 1: zimmer defense had he doesn't have the players to run

864
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: the defense that he wants, and it seems like he's

865
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 1: putting it on difficult mode for his players and maybe

866
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 1: they don't understand everything. And then I hate to be

867
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 1: too basic about it. But I totally agree on the

868
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: McArthur thing. It's one where you watch the film and

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00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 1: it really backs up those numbers with average separation and

870
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 1: everything with Dak Prescott throwing into tight windows, and it's

871
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 1: very twenty eighteen twenty seventeen Packers where everyone was saying

872
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 1: the same things. It's like they just are trying to

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00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 1: rely on their players to win and they're not winning enough.

874
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 2: But the difference is.

875
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: Those Packers at least had DeVante Adams, and yes, you

876
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: have CD Land here, but the depth of the players. Sure,

877
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:48,919
Speaker 1: Jalen Tolbert is now your your number two. He's coming

878
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: off like a decent game.

879
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 4: But it's so I'm talking about upside. The downside though

880
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 4: the sedut is brutal. I mean that he's brutal.

881
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 2: They look at that rong whin last week was huge.

882
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: Though to your point, if I was going to be optimistic,

883
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 1: I never rule out teams that like have a quarterback

884
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 1: and have a decent amount of talent, because so often

885
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: teams in December just have no resemblance of what they

886
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 1: are in October. So is there a world where they

887
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: scrape out enough wins in the meantime, I think that

888
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 1: Steelers win was one of them where you're just hanging

889
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 1: around five hundred and things can somehow click in a

890
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 1: different way in December when Lawrence and Parsons and Dak

891
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 1: you do have Dak Prescott as you think as possible,

892
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 1: that likely, But.

893
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 4: The top of that permid right now this stage of

894
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 4: the proceedings is the Chiefs, right. I mean, this is

895
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 4: exactly what we're saying. The defense is driving the offenses

896
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,840
Speaker 4: on Monday night, okay, right, but for the majority of

897
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 4: the season, Oh my god, that's still unbeating. They're not

898
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 4: playing very well. So you think about this, it was

899
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 4: relative upside here of talking about but there are a

900
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 4: cluster of teams that are gonna be winning despite not

901
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 4: playing particularly well. But despite that, they're still in the mix.

902
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

903
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 6: But it's one of those ones where while we judging

904
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 6: the standard bye to me, they came into the season

905
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 6: with championship expectations. This is the year, and I'm not

906
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 6: saying they won't make the playoffs. I'm just saying there

907
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 6: is nothing in what they're doing right now that will

908
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 6: go toe to toe with a championship caliber defense, which

909
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 6: is what they need to be they need to be

910
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 6: offensively such a juggernal to cover up the fact that

911
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 6: they can not stop anything on the ground defensively, and

912
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 6: they're just so far away from it.

913
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 5: And I understand what you're saying.

914
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 6: You can usually figure things out, patch things up through

915
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 6: the season, right I think Zimma will figure some things out.

916
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 6: We know that mccauthy and Shotanaima. They're not changing the

917
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 6: offense in the middle of the season. That's just not

918
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 6: gonna happen.

919
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 5: I do.

920
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,799
Speaker 1: I think windows are sometimes overrated, but I do think

921
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: there are moments when you have a better chance to

922
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 1: advance far in the playoffs. The Cowboys had a chance

923
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 1: if you if you spun the dial a few different

924
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 1: times last year and last year's NFC playoffs, I think

925
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: they had a chance. I think this is not this

926
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 1: This is not gonna be as good as last year's seems.

927
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 2: And I think the Lions are right in the middle

928
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 2: of their window.

929
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,280
Speaker 1: And I will be curious to see if Tyler Geyton

930
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,439
Speaker 1: seems to it starts in this game. He's a little

931
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 1: banged up when he left that game. It maybe their

932
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: offensive line maybe made a little sense where that was

933
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: actually their best I've out there Tyler Smith at left tackle.

934
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,439
Speaker 1: I forget who who wasn't at left guard, but he's

935
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: played at Tyler Bass who he's out there, and they

936
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 1: actually looked quite good, I thought against Pittsburgh upfront in

937
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 1: that game. All right, let's go to the Bengals. This

938
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 1: is a Sunday night football game. Three and a half

939
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: point favorites at the Giants. Yes, we're saving the Tottenham

940
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: game for a little bit of a meteor talk a

941
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 1: little later in the show. So this is the Mike

942
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: Tarico game. There were some rumors out there that they

943
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 1: were trying to get out of this game a couple.

944
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 2: Of weeks ago because they were afraid of the Giants.

945
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: Sure, now it's just like almost they needed to be

946
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 1: more afraid of the Bengals, although I'm sure they're fine

947
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:42,320
Speaker 1: having Joe Burrow in prime time. The Giants are frisky

948
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:47,879
Speaker 1: like they had. It is all about expectations where they

949
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 1: just feel like an average football team, and that feels

950
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: enough above expectations that it's like, okay, you don't feel

951
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 1: too bad about them. I heard they were blocked though,

952
00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: by the Washington like they wanted to take Washington, Baltimore

953
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 1: and who CBS has that game and they blocked him

954
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 1: and so they're stuck with this Giants, Uh Bengals game.

955
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 1: Giants really need to Uh, they don't really need to

956
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:11,720
Speaker 1: win as much A two and three vote that Bengals

957
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: really need to win at one in four. Like, the

958
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 1: Bengals offense has been pretty awesome though the last few weeks, Like,

959
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 1: how do you see them looking against a relatively frisky

960
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: Giants defense?

961
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 6: Ali, Yeah, I think the front in particular after a

962
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 6: really disappointing couple and gopeen in weeks of the season,

963
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 6: the three stop pastorses, I guess. Plus they've they've rolled

964
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 6: through some guys on the interior have finally come alive.

965
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 5: They just ragged all the Seahawks hope from last week.

966
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 6: Ave On Thibodaux keve On Thibodau is alive and well,

967
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 6: I'm hour rushing and being very.

968
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:41,879
Speaker 2: Out this week.

969
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 1: Suddenly is he really week to week with it like

970
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 1: a wrist injury that kind of came out of nowhere though,

971
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: But you're right to have three players up front who

972
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: are legitimate problems. Now it's two that's a good matchup

973
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:55,439
Speaker 1: against a good bengalsz Oo line.

974
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 6: Yeah, and and Lawrence has just been breaking games upon

975
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 6: all on his zone, and you you get that kind

976
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 6: of internal pressure. Borrow is a guy who and I

977
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 6: know it's when you go back to Brady and what

978
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 6: have you. Everyone struggled with internal pressure. Borrow particularly is susceptible.

979
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,800
Speaker 6: It's of internal pressure because he just doesn't like to bail.

980
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 6: He wants to climb and move through the pressure. And

981
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 6: so it's in his lab. Lawrence can just end this

982
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 6: game for everyone. I think it's I think it's gonna

983
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 6: be I think it's gonna be really close because day

984
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 6: Ball is such an excellent one week to week game

985
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 6: planner facing a defensive front that is just like an

986
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 6: absolute travesty at the moment that I think the Giants

987
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 6: will be able to hit some deep shots and have

988
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 6: some pop plays and I think they'll they'll hang around.

989
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, thirty first two points allowed, and this is you know,

990
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,800
Speaker 4: the Luhanna rum is one of the most highly regarded

991
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 4: coordinators in the last five years, right, And that's what's

992
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 4: faintly tragic about this Bengals site, because they are exhilarating

993
00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:48,359
Speaker 4: to watch, They're entertaining because they're racking them up, and

994
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 4: the defense and he's managed to build it the consistently

995
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 4: without massive names like Dallas have had. He's built this

996
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 4: powerful day over the years, which the alchemy is not

997
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 4: working anymore. And you can be thinking about Borrow and

998
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 4: everything with this situation. He's talking about contenders, the Bengals

999
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 4: in the mix or not. And you're right. If they

1000
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 4: drop this, they're in trouble. If they win this, they

1001
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 4: got the browns necks, They're suddenly right back in. It's

1002
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:15,479
Speaker 4: Joe Burrow, is either John Alway of his generation borrow.

1003
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 4: John Elway's gonna be this sensational player that rolls and

1004
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,439
Speaker 4: rolls full short in terms of championships and then has

1005
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 4: that last to run.

1006
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I think I think he is right saying

1007
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: that with him as a quarterback, you're gonna have a

1008
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 1: chance to win every year. Yeah, you assume they're gonna

1009
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,760
Speaker 1: get that Jamar Chase contract, Right, you do worry about

1010
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: like ownership that that like when they were in that

1011
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 1: game against the Rams, like it is tough to get

1012
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 1: back to that point where they had a lot of

1013
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:46,800
Speaker 1: talent on that team. His ownership and the player acquisition

1014
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 1: gonna be as strong. I think Duke Tuban's done a

1015
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: good job, but you can see what happens. Like they're

1016
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: one and four in a season they expected to, you know,

1017
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 1: contend that they've been pretty good, like statistically against pressure,

1018
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is clearly not. But the Bengals have had

1019
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: no pass rush, like the worst team in the league

1020
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 1: in terms of passers, which is crazy because you have

1021
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: Trey Hendrickson and this Giants offensive line has helped to

1022
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: support my you know, most medium take that I've had forever,

1023
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 1: which is if Daniel Jones is protected, he's fine.

1024
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 2: Like he's not gonna be a hero, but he's fine.

1025
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: Like he'll be He'll be like right there at the

1026
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton line of the Dalton scale, where he's like

1027
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: a league average and he's played fine the last couple

1028
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 1: of weeks. And Ali, he's firing up his team trucking defenders.

1029
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,560
Speaker 1: I mean, he's looking for contact in the running game,

1030
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: which does not seem like it's a good idea, but

1031
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 1: he was pretty effective. He's getting Theo Johnson involved, his

1032
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 1: rookie tight end. Like I could see them putting up

1033
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,760
Speaker 1: a lot of points in this game, and like Bengals

1034
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: are probably marking this as a win, and it seems like.

1035
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 2: It's a dangerous game. I think it's a close game.

1036
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 6: I think it's gonna be a close game. I think

1037
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 6: it's gonna be an upset type situation. The Bengals defensively,

1038
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 6: it's just declined so rapidly. You mentioned, and what's with

1039
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 6: as you mentioned, like people take shots of Mike Brown.

1040
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 6: Totally understand that they don't invest a tone well, they

1041
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 6: don't invest in scouts, but they actually draft pretty well

1042
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 6: and every single season. I understand the contractual situation, but

1043
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 6: the big floor this season has been defensive line injured

1044
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 6: and lacking talent. Linebacker's aging and not playing very well.

1045
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 6: Safety is looking pretty cooked. Von Bell in particulars like

1046
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,280
Speaker 6: it's actually sad to watch him play.

1047
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 5: At this point.

1048
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 6: But they've invested so much in that defensive line. You

1049
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 6: go by cap figure, you go by draft picks, the

1050
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 6: last four is they put everything into it, and it's

1051
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 6: comfortably the worst in the league. It's not even like

1052
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 6: close where it is compared toveone else. So to put

1053
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 6: that level of resources into it and to have declined

1054
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,240
Speaker 6: so starkly is really jarring.

1055
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you mentioned Dabo like he was in his

1056
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 1: bag last week, he's starting to feel confident. He has

1057
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: enough people around him, and this offensive line has been

1058
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 1: good good, certainly good enough, maybe even more. They can

1059
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 1: have a running game with Tyrone Tracy showed up last week.

1060
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 1: Chase Brown's look good on the other side. We got

1061
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: to move on, though.

1062
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,919
Speaker 4: Let's go to kind of a quick line of Daniel Jones,

1063
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 4: because I want to talk about one of my best

1064
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 4: makes is a Giants fan. Is this perennial nightmar he's

1065
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 4: in that Janiel Jones starts to play after a difficult

1066
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 4: patch and this is fine at the end of the road,

1067
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 4: starts to play, hence in the contract he's gone a course,

1068
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 4: starts to play well, and that it's gonna be saddle

1069
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 4: with him.

1070
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:12,760
Speaker 2: No, no, forever.

1071
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 4: No.

1072
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 1: I've heard that from like Giant, like Danny Haifaz said

1073
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: that on NFL Daily too. Is like, are we getting

1074
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: back into this question now? I thought we've settled that question.

1075
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 1: But what you want is to him play at a

1076
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: reasonable enough level this year that he can get a

1077
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 1: fine contract elsewhere next year you can be happy for

1078
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: him and that you can just watch more entertaining football.

1079
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:33,880
Speaker 2: Life is short.

1080
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: You'd rather win these games and have some meaningful mid

1081
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,520
Speaker 1: December games. I think they're trending that way where they're

1082
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 1: gonna like win eight games, which is it's not that exciting.

1083
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 4: But is he the cousins of his generation?

1084
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 2: Now? He could be the Jacoby Brissett.

1085
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like just Kobe's a good bounce around

1086
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 1: be in the league, like be a guy that you're

1087
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:56,239
Speaker 1: fine starting Teddy Bridger. That was all that is my

1088
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 1: medium take people acting like that he's like the worst

1089
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: player in the league, but he needs protection. All right,

1090
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: let's go to Bucks. Saints very excited that Spencer Rattler

1091
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,800
Speaker 1: is getting his first NFL start. The Bucks are favored

1092
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 1: by three and a half in this game. Look, there

1093
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: are in a significant portion of the Saints fan base

1094
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 1: that are actually excited to see Spencer Rattler. That it's

1095
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 1: It's Rattler time. The agenda has been out there most years.

1096
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,480
Speaker 1: This would be a difficult spot going up against a

1097
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:38,080
Speaker 1: Todd Bowles defense. They've been they'll throw a lot at you,

1098
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: and the offensive line for the Saints has come back.

1099
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:46,240
Speaker 2: To earth after That's very kindly a great start.

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Speaker 1: What do you think ali of Spencer Rattler as a prospect,

1101
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 1: and do you think this Saints like offense could could

1102
00:47:56,440 --> 00:48:00,399
Speaker 1: do enough positive things around him that actually he'd put

1103
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 1: in a fun performance.

1104
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 6: I think he can certainly put in a fun performance.

1105
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:04,880
Speaker 6: He to me, is gonna be a red zone darling.

1106
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,439
Speaker 6: This could be like Levis type stuff where we get

1107
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,919
Speaker 6: these really crazy wild players, then we get the bone

1108
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 6: and a turnovers.

1109
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 5: He was.

1110
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 6: I fell into the camp of my mid round quarterback

1111
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 6: love was Spencer Rattler, and I watched all the games

1112
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,879
Speaker 6: at South Carolina, and I know how bad a lot

1113
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 6: of it was. Or when you just break him down,

1114
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,919
Speaker 6: he's got the arm talent, he's intelligent, he can move

1115
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:26,320
Speaker 6: and make players with his feet.

1116
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 5: So he just strike me.

1117
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 6: As one of these guys who's gonna wind up having

1118
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 6: like a six seven, eight year career where he just

1119
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 6: winds up being in different spots and he can move

1120
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Speaker 6: the ball. I'm excited to watch him. In the first

1121
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 6: game you mentioned, Tom Bowles Balls has been blitzing a

1122
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 6: ton and blitzing in a way that almost no one

1123
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 6: is in the league right now. He's got his kind

1124
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 6: of own thing going on compared to the rest of

1125
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 6: the league, and most of it is to take away

1126
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 6: really short, quick outlet things. It's very we mentioned as

1127
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 6: old school offenses. The way Balls is attacking people right now,

1128
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 6: it's going right back to what he did with Rex Ryan,

1129
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 6: and it's a very old school style of blitzing compared

1130
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:00,760
Speaker 6: to when you look at the other people up there, Vans, Josip,

1131
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,240
Speaker 6: Brian Flores. They are doing something brand new and different

1132
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 6: to what anyone.

1133
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 5: Else is doing.

1134
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 6: So it's concerning matchup for me because I think the

1135
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 6: line is actually not that good. They got away with

1136
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:10,400
Speaker 6: it in the first couple of weeks of the season.

1137
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 6: McCoy goes down, they get injuries on the right side,

1138
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 6: and you would just say, typically to your young quarterback

1139
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 6: right if you see the heat, just get it out.

1140
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 6: We replace the blitz so we keep the game moving.

1141
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 6: The way Balls is attacking people is built to make

1142
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 6: you hold onto the ball, and I think Spetzerratla has

1143
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,440
Speaker 6: a chance to be a developmental guy, but him holding

1144
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 6: onto the ball in his first start makes me a

1145
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 6: little bit cloosy.

1146
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 1: It always is on my radar, the extra rest when

1147
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,920
Speaker 1: you're the Monday night team on a short week playing

1148
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 1: the Thursday night team on a particularly long week. It

1149
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,320
Speaker 1: was why I was on the Giants last week against

1150
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 1: the Seahawks. I don't know, maybe that's overthinking, but that

1151
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 1: seems like a significant difference having five days extra rest,

1152
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 1: and yeah, with a rookie quarterback, they have weapons on

1153
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:58,439
Speaker 1: offense for Rattler to play with. But on the flip side,

1154
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: like that's the matchup where you're expecting the Saints defense

1155
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:07,320
Speaker 1: to carry them, they've been okay, Like they've been fine.

1156
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 1: You've got Lattimore matching up against Mike Evans. That's that's

1157
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 1: been a matchup that's included more routes like cornerback on

1158
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 1: wide receiver than any cornerback on any wide receiver. Like statistically,

1159
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 1: it's a fact according to Next to the stats since

1160
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen or whatever. So that's fun. But it's actually

1161
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,280
Speaker 1: one of those years. I think the Bucks offense matches

1162
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 1: up fine with him. The Bucks offense has been pretty

1163
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:33,080
Speaker 1: good all year, Like they feel pretty comfortable. The running

1164
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 1: game certainly is had ups and downs, but getting better.

1165
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 1: But as a passing attack, I think they're getting the

1166
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:39,040
Speaker 1: best out of Baker Mayfield.

1167
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,359
Speaker 4: Yeah on that. So two things. Firstly, just jumping back

1168
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 4: red Zone Darlings is the perfect name for a band

1169
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,879
Speaker 4: if I'm going after this show and do that. Yeah,

1170
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,120
Speaker 4: Liam Cohen from The McVeigh Tree, Right, And it's fascinating

1171
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 4: watching the Baker evolution. In simple terms, he's just become

1172
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:58,440
Speaker 4: more controlled. Everything is a big calmer, right. And we

1173
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,760
Speaker 4: because Baker was his straw love and the head budding

1174
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 4: and all the all the animation as a player. This

1175
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 4: year as a quarterback, they've adapted and he's adapted them.

1176
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 4: It's really really clinic clinical at times, which is surprising.

1177
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 4: I think when you think about it, they can make

1178
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 4: May feel less led offense two point four to three seconds.

1179
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 4: That's the quickest of his career in terms of release.

1180
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 4: He's got a career low seven point two percent of

1181
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 4: throws twenty yards or more downfield. This isn't all new

1182
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 4: Baker who's working right now.

1183
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been quite surprising to see Baker like he

1184
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 1: was good in that Atlanta game too. They're really getting

1185
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 1: him out of his worst instincts because one of his

1186
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 1: worst traits is he takes a ton of sacks. And

1187
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,800
Speaker 1: that's still the case. He still takes a ton of sacks,

1188
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 1: like in terms of the amount of pressure that gets

1189
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:49,879
Speaker 1: on him, but the pressure never gets there because he's

1190
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 1: throwing to his first read so often that you kind

1191
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 1: of never get to that bad baker. I do think

1192
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:58,359
Speaker 1: he's gotten away with like getting into scramble mode. It's

1193
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,919
Speaker 1: worked at a higher rate than you've probably it's still

1194
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:02,879
Speaker 1: not working all the time, but like he he has

1195
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 1: escape pressure a decent amount this year on scrambles at least,

1196
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 1: Like how have you thought that Liam Cohen experiment was

1197
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 1: gonna Because I was skeptical coming in. He felt like

1198
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 1: a little like one wrong above Alex Van Pelt of

1199
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: like Shanahan Tree left, Oh.

1200
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 2: Don't tell you that has picked over.

1201
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 1: They're like, let's take that Brands, Let's take like who's left. Oh,

1202
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 1: it's it's Cohen over there at Kentucky. But you're pudding

1203
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 1: him well ahead, Yeah, outrageously rude.

1204
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 5: Outrageously rude.

1205
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 6: He did really cool things at Kentucky. I think, you know,

1206
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:33,759
Speaker 6: I go back and forth with you on like the

1207
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 6: use of motion, how people will just put the motion

1208
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 6: shots up and if your emotion you must be a

1209
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 6: really innovative mine. Cohen to me through the first stretch

1210
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 6: of the seasons, mean the best coach in the league,

1211
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 6: having a purpose to the motion, the way He's able

1212
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 6: to move a manipulate the defense to create voids. Is

1213
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 6: why Baker's just gunning Good and gunning White. It don't

1214
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,359
Speaker 6: come out so quickly. He will use formation and motion

1215
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 6: to manipulate one on one so Mike Evans, which is

1216
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:57,320
Speaker 6: not an easy thing to do. I thought in the

1217
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 6: off season it was an upbrade going from Canals to

1218
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 6: Liam Cohen. I feel they got the best part of

1219
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 6: that deal of Canalo's moving gone. I think for the

1220
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 6: first few weeks the season, They've got serious issues in

1221
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 6: the run game that I just don't know how they

1222
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 6: can quite address as we head towards the middle of

1223
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 6: the year. But to me, it's been an improvement in

1224
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 6: the pussing game in the way that he's maximized everyone,

1225
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:16,359
Speaker 6: most notably Biga.

1226
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: I am curious also in this game, can the Saints

1227
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 1: running game get back. I mean, normally you think of

1228
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers as like a great run defense. They haven't

1229
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 1: been statistically this year at all. They are getting healthier,

1230
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 1: they had a lot of injuries. Colijah Cantsey I believe

1231
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 1: is back at practice. They've been banged up, and I

1232
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: just feel like the Saints team is not going to

1233
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 1: work unless they can get the most out of Kamara

1234
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 1: and the most out of that zone running scheme, which

1235
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 1: like they had something special for a couple of weeks

1236
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: and then everyone was like, this is how we're gonna stop.

1237
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 1: It does not seem like they have a counter right now.

1238
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 1: I like the Bucks in this game. Let's go to

1239
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 1: uh Packers and the Cardinals, And yes, it is time

1240
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 1: for the Game of the Week presented by Draft King Sportsbook.

1241
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 1: The Packers are five point favorites in this game. This

1242
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 1: is the Kevin Coogler Darryl Johnston game. I just kind

1243
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 1: of think of this Packers run game and how they're

1244
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 1: throwing so much at opposing defenses, and it's just been

1245
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 1: a great kind of backstop for any other issues that

1246
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 1: this team has had. And I'm still waiting for a

1247
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:29,200
Speaker 1: normal game out of Jordan Love, Like everything is just

1248
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 1: boom or bust, just like a little crazy out of him.

1249
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 1: They have that running game which is so creative and

1250
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:40,000
Speaker 1: so explosive, and there's not a lot of reason to

1251
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 1: think the Cardinals defense is going to be able to stop.

1252
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 4: And that's the thing they brought in Jonathan go and

1253
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 4: to uplift a d right it isn't working so far

1254
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,800
Speaker 4: statistically in most most categories are the wrong end of

1255
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 4: proceedings there. I guess the hold against the Niners mind

1256
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 4: act is a kind of catalist galvanized a little bit.

1257
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 4: Darius Robinson that first round in training. He could be back.

1258
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,359
Speaker 4: That will be a big lift as well. But yeah,

1259
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 4: right now, and you think about the Pakasto line is strong.

1260
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 4: I mean this one to me feels packs.

1261
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: All the way.

1262
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1263
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 6: I feel bad for Gannon. I mean he's been dealt

1264
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 6: at a pretty rough card. He's got the youngest defense

1265
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:15,440
Speaker 6: by far in the NFL. They don't seem to have

1266
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 6: that much talent. They certilly know that much times. It's

1267
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 6: clearly the weakest group of pass rushes in the league,

1268
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 6: and he's not running anything close to what he ran

1269
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,880
Speaker 6: in Philadelphia, which is built around a four man rotation

1270
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 6: of pass rushes. You get eight guys and you just

1271
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:28,759
Speaker 6: cycle through every other down who you want in there.

1272
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,320
Speaker 6: That's gonna take, you know, a couple of years to develop.

1273
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 6: I do think it's they're way further along in their

1274
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:35,399
Speaker 6: process than I thought they would have been. They are

1275
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 6: competitive every single week. They great upsets with a defense

1276
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 6: that is lacking a bunch of talents. So but in

1277
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:43,879
Speaker 6: this game of particularly, I thought it's funny you mentioned

1278
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 6: with Jordan love.

1279
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 5: It's not even to me boom or bus. It's like

1280
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:47,959
Speaker 5: everything all the time.

1281
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 1: It's just that's what I mean, that's sort of what

1282
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:52,920
Speaker 1: I'm getting it, Like, can we get like one normal

1283
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 1: car drive?

1284
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 5: One drive of normalacy would be nice.

1285
00:55:56,600 --> 00:55:57,200
Speaker 2: It's everything.

1286
00:55:57,239 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 1: It's reminding me of how he used to play in

1287
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 1: the preseason, which I when he wasn't the starter until

1288
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 1: you'd watch those games closely.

1289
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 2: And it'd just be like I'd just be.

1290
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:09,720
Speaker 1: Like an explosion and it is fun, but it seems

1291
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 1: a little out of control.

1292
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, it really smacks of when he came back and

1293
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 6: he was wearing the FUV Josey like he spent the

1294
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,680
Speaker 6: timeway just grinding through fall film was like, this is

1295
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:19,800
Speaker 6: the cool way to play football. Like it definitely is,

1296
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 6: Jord and I love it, but it's not gonna help

1297
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 6: the team win games consistently. He seems like he's having

1298
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 6: the most fun. So he's good at avoiding sacks.

1299
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,360
Speaker 1: You mentioned this is not a good pass rush, and

1300
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 1: so that's a mismatch where he'll have time, so it

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00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 1: should be a fun matchup. They're probably getting Christian Watson

1302
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 1: and Robio Dobbs back.

1303
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 2: Watson was back at practice.

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00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: Dobbs is apparently over being upset that like Tucker Craft

1305
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 1: was getting featured in the game plan last week, or

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00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:49,840
Speaker 1: Dantavian Wicks was. I don't know what he was upset about,

1307
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 1: but they they calmed that down.

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00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:52,280
Speaker 2: I mean, he might have had a point.

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Speaker 1: Wix didn't really come through in a big spot for

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Speaker 1: all his fantasy owners out there. Fun game though, Like

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00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 1: even then, like five points at this point feels like

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00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 1: a lot to give.

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Speaker 6: Like Kyler, I think, I think kylea is gonna dice

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00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 6: through that defense pretty effectively. They have no pastrust. They

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00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:09,839
Speaker 6: only get a pastrust when they send five.

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00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 5: That the best in the league.

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00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:13,240
Speaker 6: When they send six, No one sends six very often.

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00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 6: And Kyla's being in his back this season is goblin

1319
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 6: got precious, So I think the Kyle's got real Ton

1320
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:18,360
Speaker 6: a lot.

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00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 1: I think he was that practice. We don't know for sure,

1322
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 1: but that would be an interesting matchup him and Marvin Harrison.

1323
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 1: He has tended to travel a little bit with better receivers.

1324
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 1: Harrison's been quite inefficient with the targets that go to him,

1325
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 1: He'll be fine though that was a crazy fine, but

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Speaker 1: it just yeah, this year they're not like it's just

1327
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 1: like a lot of hope balls. They've been pretty efficient

1328
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 1: offensively when they're not throwing to him.

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Speaker 6: Yea, actually, yeah, his gravitational pull is actually being the

1330
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 6: most like valuable thing he's brought to the team essentially.

1331
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 6: And it's weird because they don't have chemistry yet within

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00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 6: the flow.

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Speaker 5: Of the offense. You know, they're doing a lot back

1334
00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 5: shoulder stiff and that is off. The timing's not great.

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00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 6: They beat at that best is when they just both

1336
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 6: try and figure it out on the fly. You know,

1337
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 6: remember the Rams touched down the big boot in the

1338
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 6: tunnel the sideline that was completely like a bolting what

1339
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 6: the play was supposed to be.

1340
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 5: They just figured it out together.

1341
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:13,520
Speaker 6: So they're actually beta when he's not the primary and

1342
00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 6: then if it's not there, they can go and kind

1343
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:15,920
Speaker 6: of do stuff on it.

1344
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 1: Kyler always seems to be reacting to what happened the

1345
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 1: previous week, like if he just goes bananas on the Rams,

1346
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 1: like then he just started playing freestyle like crazy the

1347
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 1: next week, and that didn't really work.

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00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:27,560
Speaker 2: And then he didn't run it all one week and

1349
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 2: everyone's like, you should run more.

1350
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 1: And then he ran all over the forty nine ers

1351
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 1: last week and played really well, so they're a better

1352
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 1: offense when he does run the ball. That'll be fun

1353
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 1: to watch. Let's take one more break. We'll be back

1354
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 1: to run through the rest of the big point spread

1355
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 1: games and then wrap up with our Tottenham hots for

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00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 1: matchup Jaguars Bears, talk a little Caleb Williams. To finish out,

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Speaker 2: The crown is yours all.

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Speaker 1: Right back on NFL Daily. Yes, we're at the Greenwood

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Speaker 1: Sports Pub.

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Speaker 7: Very cool.

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00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 1: We just walk in here, you see it, like right

1366
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:18,800
Speaker 1: right across from the tube.

1367
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 3: I walk.

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00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 2: I walked all the way here from the hotel. Actually

1369
00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 2: it's like two and a half miles. But I just

1370
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna get any exercise. That would be it.

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00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 1: And you know, listen to the music. That's my happy place,

1372
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 1: like see the bookshops.

1373
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 2: I love it.

1374
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:35,720
Speaker 1: But you're you're getting close and you see like the

1375
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 1: Bears graphics and everything as you come up. Our friend

1376
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 1: Henry Hodson told me last week like the official sports

1377
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 1: pubs were literally running out of beer, like mid Friday

1378
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 1: they sold They have reservations throughout the weekend. It is

1379
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:53,560
Speaker 1: sold out the whole weekend here. We have to get

1380
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 1: out of here actually not fairly soon, but we'll be

1381
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:59,680
Speaker 1: good because they have reservations and it's like all booked

1382
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 1: up later.

1383
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 2: So it's very cool to be in London and see

1384
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 2: that sort of representation.

1385
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:07,680
Speaker 4: This pub was so last week. Don't tell anybody this right,

1386
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 4: but this is the Vikings headquarters. Last week it was

1387
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 4: a three games stand in London. So the Vikings took

1388
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 4: over the pub last week everything, so they turned it

1389
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:18,160
Speaker 4: around pretty quickly. It's kind of like you know Met Life,

1390
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 4: you know, from a Jets game to the Giants game

1391
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:22,040
Speaker 4: within a week. But we did a great night with

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Speaker 4: Chris Carter, the legend Jake Reid as well. We went

1393
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 4: to all of three Deep. Randy mostn't travel, so it

1394
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 4: was Chris Carter and Jake Reid. What I mean, what

1395
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:32,160
Speaker 4: a character Chris Carter is? What that was?

1396
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 2: That was?

1397
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 4: That was a lot of fun.

1398
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 2: He is not afraid to speak his mind.

1399
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 1: It wasn't possibly like lost him some jobs like in

1400
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 1: the league and at ESPN.

1401
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 4: But it's fun.

1402
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 2: It's fun to listen.

1403
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 1: All right, Let's let's roll through these big points freakings

1404
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 1: and then we'll talk the Tottenham game Falcons minus six

1405
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 1: at Carolina kind of the Dalton bump, you know, hit

1406
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 1: a little bit of a standstill last week when when

1407
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 1: he had to play like a better defense. But now

1408
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 1: he's up against like and not so great defense.

1409
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 4: So I got a London edge of this one, right,

1410
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 4: So this is Dalton. If you remember Dalton Cousins back

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01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 4: in twenty seventeen, I want to say, probably one of

1412
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 4: the best games in London ever the Tide game, the

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01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 4: Washington Cincinnati Tige game, which I did annoyingly. I wasn't

1414
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:18,440
Speaker 4: at the game. I was in a studio BBC studio

1415
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 4: up north in Manchester where the BBC have bb Support,

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01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 4: have their base with Ocum and Europe of course, uh

1417
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 4: store of both.

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01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 2: The host on BBC, which just kind of a big deal.

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01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 4: Back in the day. Yeah, and and Mike Carson, who

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01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:35,040
Speaker 4: your British listeners will know. Legend of the game over

1421
01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 4: here at longtime partner in crime who dressed unusually for him,

1422
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:42,919
Speaker 4: super sharp suit and glasses. And when I posted something

1423
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 4: out on social media saying we're ready to do the game,

1424
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 4: everyone thought it was Bill Gates and I played a

1425
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 4: logo that for all anyway, that was the game we did,

1426
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 4: and I think it was probably Oliad if you agree.

1427
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Speaker 4: One of the best best line of games ever is

1428
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 4: an absolute thriller.

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01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:58,920
Speaker 2: And they're not that different, now are they? They're not

1430
01:01:58,960 --> 01:01:59,520
Speaker 2: that different?

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01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 5: No, not different.

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01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 6: This game to be has a chance, I think, to

1433
01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:04,520
Speaker 6: be the scoring game of the week. When you look

1434
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 6: at them, I know that the Ans have got the

1435
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:09,439
Speaker 6: issues up for an offensive line, injuries sent to right God,

1436
01:02:09,680 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 6: but neither's Eco rushed us.

1437
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Speaker 5: They are the two US teams in the league by

1438
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Speaker 5: pressure rate.

1439
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 6: Whether they send pressure, whether they don't, they just don't

1440
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 6: get after anyone. So this has a chance, I think

1441
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 6: to be a real fun back and full of drive

1442
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 6: after drive after drive type game.

1443
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 1: I liked how much like Kirk was trusting it. This

1444
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 1: was something I wrote down I wanted to ask you

1445
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:30,440
Speaker 1: Ali about, like his numbers this year when he's not

1446
01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 1: pressured are insanely good. When he is pressured there. They're

1447
01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 1: insanely bad. Everyone was like, this isn't gonna last. You're

1448
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 1: gonna have to start having him move, do some play action. Actually,

1449
01:02:42,280 --> 01:02:45,160
Speaker 1: whenever they've done that, it hasn't really worked. They didn't

1450
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:47,840
Speaker 1: really do it in that Thursday night game. He's just

1451
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:51,320
Speaker 1: sitting back there and having confidence his guys are gonna

1452
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 1: be where they need to be, and they've shown that.

1453
01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 1: One thing they've proven is they have enough offensive depth

1454
01:02:56,280 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 1: in terms of their weapons, like Darnell Mooney is helping out,

1455
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 1: like they can get other guys involved, But can do

1456
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 1: you think that can work long term? That that he

1457
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 1: is kind of just sitting back there as a statue

1458
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:13,000
Speaker 1: and throwing the ball beautifully, very similar to Aaron Rodgers

1459
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 1: in a way that when he has time, it's like

1460
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 1: people forget he is.

1461
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 2: A beautiful thrower of the football.

1462
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, and your look alike and my look alike.

1463
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 6: That's why I defend him all the time at a

1464
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 6: plus plus anticipation thrower. The anticipation throwers of the day

1465
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 6: was the throw to Donald Mooney for the touchdown. I

1466
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:32,520
Speaker 6: don't want to boil listeners too much. That throw never happens.

1467
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:34,440
Speaker 6: It's not designed to ever up in that way. That

1468
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:36,960
Speaker 6: route is a clear out route to push the coverage

1469
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 6: back and you rip it underneath, you maybe throw it

1470
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:41,920
Speaker 6: as a novel law based on the coverage. He threaded

1471
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Speaker 6: it between three players to playing well. I'm not even

1472
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 6: sure if he actually intended to throw that ball. Mooney

1473
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:48,919
Speaker 6: goes up and gets it. The thing that I think

1474
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 6: is the concern is him playing that like spread out

1475
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 6: forty five drop backs a game. He's had multiple drop

1476
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 6: picks already this season. I just don't think that you

1477
01:03:56,920 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 6: can live that way with Listens. I think if he's

1478
01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 6: in there, he dropped buck Range. I don't think they

1479
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 6: necessarily need all the play action stuff you mentioned, but

1480
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Speaker 6: they definitely need some kind of compem with the Room game.

1481
01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 6: We'll get more of a screen game involved to be

1482
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:09,440
Speaker 6: able to do it effectively.

1483
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're doing all this outside zone in the running

1484
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:14,120
Speaker 1: game and it's not really working with John Robinson. You

1485
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:17,440
Speaker 1: hope they can kind of figure that out, because they're

1486
01:04:17,480 --> 01:04:17,920
Speaker 1: really not.

1487
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:18,760
Speaker 2: It's funny.

1488
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:22,480
Speaker 1: They're not accentuating him just as much or worse than

1489
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:25,360
Speaker 1: Arthur Smith. It they are using Drake London in a

1490
01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:27,560
Speaker 1: positive way. He's playing a lot out of the slot.

1491
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:29,960
Speaker 1: They're targeting a ton When he's in the slot, they

1492
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:30,919
Speaker 1: are throwing.

1493
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:31,440
Speaker 2: The ball to him.

1494
01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 1: And you mentioned the Panthers offensive line. Yeah, Taylor Moton,

1495
01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:39,479
Speaker 1: who's their best offensive lineman, is out of this game.

1496
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 1: He had one of those crazy snap streaks going. He

1497
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 1: had missed a game for one hundred and twenty straight games.

1498
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:48,200
Speaker 1: So they lost their center and Moten will be back

1499
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 1: pretty soon, it sounds like, but he's out this week

1500
01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 1: and Corbett, their center, is also out for the week.

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01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:55,920
Speaker 1: So this week I think it can work for Kirk

1502
01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:58,560
Speaker 1: to just rip it because he's not going to face

1503
01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 1: any pressure. Long term, we'll see Washington at Baltimore. The

1504
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:05,440
Speaker 1: Ravens are somehow favored by six and a half in

1505
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:09,680
Speaker 1: this game. That's like a number where they're they're begging

1506
01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:12,439
Speaker 1: everyone to take Washington because they think, actually this will

1507
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 1: be the on some level, the numbers say it might

1508
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:16,439
Speaker 1: be a little bit of a comeback to Earth game

1509
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 1: for Washington. Like Jaden Daniels just had like a normal

1510
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:23,439
Speaker 1: game last week and that was fine, Like they still

1511
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:26,440
Speaker 1: were outstanding, So it shows that they're more on offense.

1512
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:28,400
Speaker 1: I actually wanted to talk Ravens offense for a bit.

1513
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 1: Their offense has been a lot better than people expected,

1514
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:33,680
Speaker 1: Like they were a great offense last year. Sure, they're

1515
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 1: the number one running game by EPA, by DVOA, by

1516
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 1: like orders of magnitude, but they're actually the number one

1517
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 1: passing game too by DBOA, so extremely efficient. You see

1518
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:48,840
Speaker 1: the receivers like wait, like very open for Lamar Jackson.

1519
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:51,760
Speaker 1: He's making good decisions. So it's a plus matchup again

1520
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 1: against this Washington Commander's secondary. Yeah.

1521
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 4: Absolutely. I mean the you know, the cliche book on

1522
01:05:56,920 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 4: Lamar is well, it doesn't have the arm of those

1523
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 4: top ten players, and it's not a nonsense I think,

1524
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:04,240
Speaker 4: and it's been proved to be that this season. Two

1525
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:06,120
Speaker 4: hundred and eleven yards a game is what they're averaging

1526
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 4: on the ground, which means they keep up this clip,

1527
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 4: they're on pace to beat their own record this season.

1528
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:13,880
Speaker 4: But this is a this is a decent run dye

1529
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:16,960
Speaker 4: against the Washington have They're going up again, So that

1530
01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:20,120
Speaker 4: is going to be fascinating just on this game. The

1531
01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:23,440
Speaker 4: other thought of mine, given rehabilitation story seems to be

1532
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 4: one of the big narratives of the season, Sam Donald,

1533
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:28,760
Speaker 4: I guess, being that the number one rehabilitation stories so far.

1534
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:31,200
Speaker 4: I think Cliff Kingsbury has got to be a close second, right, yea,

1535
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 4: I mean Kingsbury has reinvented his reputation in this space

1536
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:37,400
Speaker 4: of about six weeks.

1537
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 1: Right, what have you thought about what they've done with

1538
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:42,680
Speaker 1: their running game? These are maybe the two best running

1539
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 1: games in the league in terms of just like been

1540
01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:45,280
Speaker 1: cool the watch.

1541
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, and the offensive line for Washington has gone so

1542
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:51,280
Speaker 6: under the radar. They've played unbelievable centers, the artists being

1543
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:54,840
Speaker 6: by far Blager's best football Cosmi at right guard has

1544
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 6: been really good. They resigned before the Season's kind of

1545
01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 6: on of those funky contracts, Like is he really that

1546
01:06:58,440 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 6: kind of player?

1547
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:01,880
Speaker 5: Evidently he is, Cliffs.

1548
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 6: I mean we've been to a cliff before where you know,

1549
01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:07,040
Speaker 6: he kind of like throws it out early in the season,

1550
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:09,640
Speaker 6: you get to week six, week seven, it comes crashing down.

1551
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 6: He kind of got all the funds without the way.

1552
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:14,080
Speaker 6: What's different this year is he's just completely redefined his

1553
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 6: run game. It is almost identical to what Harball was

1554
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:20,400
Speaker 6: doing with Alex Smith and Colin Kaepnick back in San Francisco.

1555
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:22,320
Speaker 6: He has just clearly gone to study that stuff. A

1556
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 6: lot of the Greg Roman stuff and then just transported

1557
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 6: it over. They move more than everyone, right, They're pulling

1558
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:30,439
Speaker 6: and wrapping people all the time. It is the most

1559
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 6: diverse run game by a good amount. And this is

1560
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 6: the first real real test for that offensive line who's

1561
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 6: been so good. The Browns was a first like initial test.

1562
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:41,040
Speaker 6: They handled Myles Garrett so well. This is the first

1563
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 6: time they're facing the front wear like five, six, seven

1564
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:44,479
Speaker 6: positions are.

1565
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 5: Really really, really good. So it's a big, big test.

1566
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:49,120
Speaker 1: Right, Can they go a little pass first, because that's

1567
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:52,440
Speaker 1: how you attack the Ravens they're so stout up front,

1568
01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:55,560
Speaker 1: or do you stick with what's kind of gotten you here? Look,

1569
01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:57,480
Speaker 1: if the Ravens want to get in man coverage, and

1570
01:07:57,520 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 1: they're relatively high in man coverage, Jaden has just been

1571
01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:05,080
Speaker 1: the best scrambler in the league again, like that, like

1572
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:07,480
Speaker 1: Lamar is the best just pure runner. But if you

1573
01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 1: look out like QBR like rushing value this year, Jayden

1574
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 1: Daniel is actually number one in the league because he's

1575
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:15,320
Speaker 1: just killing you with like eleven yard runs on third

1576
01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:16,880
Speaker 1: and nine whenever they play man coverage.

1577
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, and he Actually they're doing something really interesting in

1578
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:21,360
Speaker 6: the blitz game. They all crushing the blitz because they

1579
01:08:21,439 --> 01:08:24,120
Speaker 6: all cool leaving unblocked runners in a way that you

1580
01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 6: don't ordinarily do in the NFL. You never in the

1581
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:27,720
Speaker 6: NFL allow a free runner through the middle of a

1582
01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 6: line of scrimmage. That's just not allowed. You take away,

1583
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:31,960
Speaker 6: you allow a free run at the perimeter because the

1584
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:33,559
Speaker 6: coolds back and seek and throw it behind it.

1585
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:35,559
Speaker 5: They have freed up to say, Jada can.

1586
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:37,439
Speaker 6: Beat people, and we saw against the Browns right three

1587
01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:39,920
Speaker 6: times that just now you don't expect him to make

1588
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 6: three people misslike that. But they have changed some of

1589
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:44,439
Speaker 6: their rules in a way that defenses don't actually know

1590
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:47,439
Speaker 6: now how to approach this stuff. So what Cliff Kingsbury

1591
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:49,160
Speaker 6: is then obviously Daniels is being incredible.

1592
01:08:49,200 --> 01:08:50,439
Speaker 5: The whole machine is just clicking.

1593
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:51,840
Speaker 1: So I mean, if you're a yeah, if you're a

1594
01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:54,040
Speaker 1: running game dork, this is this is the game. Like

1595
01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:56,639
Speaker 1: Washington they were reminding me of like they were running

1596
01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 1: some like like they look like the Hogs out there

1597
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:00,760
Speaker 1: last week at the way they're in their guards and

1598
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 1: stuff and just powerful. But then there's Baltimore, which on

1599
01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:07,920
Speaker 1: their option plays, both options are so good. And I

1600
01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:10,680
Speaker 1: don't just mean like obviously Lamar and Derek Henry are

1601
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 1: both so good. I mean when you watch the playback

1602
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:15,920
Speaker 1: a lot of times it feels like, actually, Lamar.

1603
01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 2: You should have kept it.

1604
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:18,920
Speaker 1: The right read was to keep it. You would have

1605
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 1: had a big run. But he's handing it off and

1606
01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:25,400
Speaker 1: Derek Henry's getting anyways for seven yard, so it's really cool.

1607
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:27,720
Speaker 1: I we did want to mention Dean P's is in

1608
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:31,840
Speaker 1: the building. You talked about reclamation projects, some nice stories.

1609
01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:34,920
Speaker 1: Dean P's is back. They brought him out of retirement.

1610
01:09:35,000 --> 01:09:38,280
Speaker 1: I've been kind of struggling defensively, and he's a consultant

1611
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:39,360
Speaker 1: there with Zach Orr.

1612
01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:42,800
Speaker 4: I love that because I talking at Washington. I like

1613
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:46,360
Speaker 4: the rivera del Rio Tantum because it was kind of

1614
01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 4: getting close to one of my dreams. As you will not.

1615
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:50,479
Speaker 4: Greg talked about it on the show in the past.

1616
01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:52,880
Speaker 4: Is having if I ever get to become an NFLGM,

1617
01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:56,800
Speaker 4: he's having a coaching staff that is Satarian as a

1618
01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:58,080
Speaker 4: minimum seventy plus.

1619
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:01,640
Speaker 2: He's gonna be a good choice.

1620
01:10:01,160 --> 01:10:04,160
Speaker 1: He probably coached Zach Orr, who is now the coordinator,

1621
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:07,280
Speaker 1: back in Baltimore when dak Or was like twenty two

1622
01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 1: years old. I mean, Zach Gors might be the youngest

1623
01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:10,160
Speaker 1: coordinator in the league.

1624
01:10:10,479 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 2: So that's good.

1625
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:14,839
Speaker 1: A little dnpiece coming back in the league. Houston minus

1626
01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:18,439
Speaker 1: seven at the Patriots. I like the Patriots covering this.

1627
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:20,799
Speaker 1: That's that's a lot for me, and I've been pretty

1628
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:25,960
Speaker 1: down the Patriots had their safety Julius Jabrill Peppers rather

1629
01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 1: put on the commissioners exempless. Yeah, after a very troubling

1630
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:34,960
Speaker 1: arrest last week. Of course, it's Drake May's first game,

1631
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:39,599
Speaker 1: and yeah, it's a tough matchup for his first game.

1632
01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:42,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's not one that you would and it's really

1633
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:44,280
Speaker 6: interesting when I understand the debate, and I'm sure you've

1634
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:46,719
Speaker 6: spoken about whether they should starts and whether you don't,

1635
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 6: and it does feel almost like a icon of fold

1636
01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:53,120
Speaker 6: to lose the building decision rather than this is exactly

1637
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:54,960
Speaker 6: what the plan is. And I get he gives him

1638
01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:56,519
Speaker 6: the best chance to win right now because he can

1639
01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:58,320
Speaker 6: move and he's got a stronger rom He's just a

1640
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:00,599
Speaker 6: mure talent to play the jacou Brissette. But I do

1641
01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 6: think throwing him to the Wolves like this in his

1642
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:05,640
Speaker 6: first game is a real real one and even if

1643
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:08,120
Speaker 6: he plays well and they sneak the winner, I think

1644
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:10,320
Speaker 6: it's there's gonna be some pretty brutal moments.

1645
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:12,519
Speaker 1: I've been through this argument, so I won't repeat it,

1646
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:13,400
Speaker 1: but it's gonna be hard.

1647
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:14,519
Speaker 2: Playing in the NFL is hard.

1648
01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:16,840
Speaker 1: This game will be harder than the next handful, which

1649
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:20,000
Speaker 1: look easier on paper, but you're gonna have really hard games.

1650
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:22,880
Speaker 2: Jacoby Brissette was and played well. I'm more like the

1651
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:23,519
Speaker 2: Drod Mayo.

1652
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:25,400
Speaker 1: Thing that concerned me the most this week was him

1653
01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:28,719
Speaker 1: saying we played well enough defensively and on special teams

1654
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:32,000
Speaker 1: against the Dolphins, and that he was upset that the

1655
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:35,639
Speaker 1: nudes leaked on Tuesday when he hadn't told the team yet.

1656
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:38,679
Speaker 1: So it just speaks to an organization where things aren't

1657
01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:41,040
Speaker 1: being run that well. Like you gave up almost two

1658
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 1: hundred yards on the ground to the Dolphins.

1659
01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:44,800
Speaker 2: You gave up scores.

1660
01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:47,120
Speaker 1: Every single possession in the second half of that game

1661
01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:49,679
Speaker 1: to a Dolphins offense that had been the absolute worst

1662
01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:52,880
Speaker 1: in league. So I think he's should be much more

1663
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:55,160
Speaker 1: disappointed with how his defense is. And yes, they've had

1664
01:11:55,160 --> 01:11:57,960
Speaker 1: a ton of injuries, but they've also had some easy

1665
01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:00,920
Speaker 1: matchups and they have not looked good in any way.

1666
01:12:01,040 --> 01:12:04,240
Speaker 4: The line allowed the offensive line twenty one pressures on

1667
01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:08,679
Speaker 4: thirty nine pass plays against will anders Is coming to town.

1668
01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:11,240
Speaker 4: It is, it is negligent. That's when it has started.

1669
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 4: Drake May in this game, I think it's it's not fine,

1670
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:15,240
Speaker 4: it's relative.

1671
01:12:15,800 --> 01:12:16,599
Speaker 5: I would be with you.

1672
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:19,400
Speaker 1: They're like playing Leyden Robinson and who didn't play it

1673
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:21,360
Speaker 1: all in training camp and they just put him out

1674
01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:23,800
Speaker 1: there a week one to go up against like something like, hey,

1675
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:25,360
Speaker 1: just go black Quinn Williams.

1676
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 5: It's like, no, I know, I know what happened. That

1677
01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:28,679
Speaker 5: is certainly what happened.

1678
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:32,400
Speaker 6: That Drake May is like the future of the organization

1679
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:35,559
Speaker 6: and this guy's career job Mayo is tied to this

1680
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 6: quarter bat is different than the right guard who's a

1681
01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:43,120
Speaker 6: rookie's who's played a bunch of football already.

1682
01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:49,639
Speaker 8: If I am concerned my argument earlier about the Joe

1683
01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:52,080
Speaker 8: Flacco argument, but this is this is the exception to

1684
01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:52,479
Speaker 8: that rule.

1685
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:54,280
Speaker 1: Don't I just want to see I just want to

1686
01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:57,559
Speaker 1: see him make enough plays This week probably is not

1687
01:12:57,560 --> 01:12:58,639
Speaker 1: going to go that well.

1688
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:00,000
Speaker 2: Who knows. Maybe the hold down the town.

1689
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:03,240
Speaker 1: The Texans put Nico Collins on injured reserves since we

1690
01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:05,880
Speaker 1: last did a podcast, but we didn't know he was

1691
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:07,599
Speaker 1: going to be out for a little while. That's concerning

1692
01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:09,519
Speaker 1: their offensive line has not been playing that well.

1693
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:09,960
Speaker 2: I think c J.

1694
01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:13,040
Speaker 1: Stroud has really made up for some deficiencies in terms

1695
01:13:13,080 --> 01:13:16,840
Speaker 1: of schematically and the running game and everything. He's just

1696
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:20,160
Speaker 1: awesome and he's probably going to continue to be awesome.

1697
01:13:20,200 --> 01:13:22,120
Speaker 1: But I don't think they're putting him in the best position.

1698
01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:23,160
Speaker 5: No, certainly no.

1699
01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:25,160
Speaker 6: I mean they have so many penalties they can't even

1700
01:13:25,240 --> 01:13:27,400
Speaker 6: line up at this point. He's got plays this season

1701
01:13:27,439 --> 01:13:31,040
Speaker 6: where he's holding the back of a guard to hold

1702
01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:33,639
Speaker 6: the pressure off from him while someone is holding onto

1703
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:36,320
Speaker 6: a owl and the undershirt coming off him, and he's

1704
01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:37,640
Speaker 6: still completing fifteen.

1705
01:13:37,400 --> 01:13:39,680
Speaker 5: Yards throws down the field. The one thing about c J.

1706
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:42,040
Speaker 6: Stroud that marks him out from any of the young

1707
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:43,720
Speaker 6: guys you have in the league is he does not

1708
01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:46,200
Speaker 6: take bad sacks. Even when they take sacks, they are

1709
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:48,400
Speaker 6: sacks that are acceptable within like what would be like

1710
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:50,559
Speaker 6: the coaching world of Okay, you take one on a

1711
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:52,280
Speaker 6: third and must have it is what it is, We'll

1712
01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:55,320
Speaker 6: move on. He never ever takes bad sacks. If atriots

1713
01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:57,439
Speaker 6: don't even get after anyone they got in the worst pass.

1714
01:13:57,280 --> 01:13:58,160
Speaker 5: Versus in the League.

1715
01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:00,479
Speaker 1: All right, maybe maybe the seven points is I just

1716
01:14:00,479 --> 01:14:03,800
Speaker 1: thought it's just like Texan's coming off a couple of

1717
01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:07,280
Speaker 1: big wins at home. They snuck out a win against Jacksonville.

1718
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:09,639
Speaker 1: They're coming just feels like a letdown game where maybe

1719
01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:12,479
Speaker 1: it's a young winn. Relatively say that it's just like

1720
01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:15,559
Speaker 1: a close, ugly game. But I'm a Drake Maye believer.

1721
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:19,559
Speaker 1: All right, Eagles hosting the Browns. The Eagles are favored

1722
01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:22,240
Speaker 1: by nine points in the year twenty twenty four, which

1723
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:23,120
Speaker 1: is crazy to me.

1724
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:25,080
Speaker 2: The Eagles have not played well.

1725
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:29,080
Speaker 1: This year overall, They're very lucky to be two and two.

1726
01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:32,800
Speaker 1: And what's a healthy They are healthier. They get aj

1727
01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 1: Brown back, they get Lane Johnson back. They're probably getting

1728
01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:39,400
Speaker 1: DeVante Smith back. He is in the protocol but practicing,

1729
01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:42,160
Speaker 1: which is usually a good sign that you'll be cleared

1730
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:44,599
Speaker 1: by the end of the week. Most importantly, they're playing

1731
01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:47,720
Speaker 1: the Browns. That's that's the reason. But still that that

1732
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:51,040
Speaker 1: seems like a huge number for me. We haven't seen

1733
01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:53,519
Speaker 1: a lot of in rhythm throws by Jalen Hurts. This

1734
01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:55,479
Speaker 1: is a team that I didn't know what to think

1735
01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:57,720
Speaker 1: about before the season. I still don't really know what

1736
01:14:57,760 --> 01:14:58,240
Speaker 1: to think about.

1737
01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:02,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Syriani Cheddon hadst preseason when Jalen Hurts gave

1738
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:04,760
Speaker 4: one of the most awkward answers to a reporter I

1739
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:09,280
Speaker 4: think I've ever seen in answering a question about the offense,

1740
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:11,680
Speaker 4: and it was quite clearly apparent they were not on

1741
01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:14,719
Speaker 4: the same page. So what's played out is wildly surprising

1742
01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:18,000
Speaker 4: when you look at that dysfunction. They couldn't even mask there, right,

1743
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:22,200
Speaker 4: But this is a decent spot, I guess because not

1744
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:26,639
Speaker 4: specifically for the offense, but conversely against this Brown's offense

1745
01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:29,960
Speaker 4: that is so misfiring. The golden boy of coaching in

1746
01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:32,240
Speaker 4: the last couple of years, Vin Stemanski, is now peering

1747
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:34,919
Speaker 4: on hot take coach on the hot seat, which.

1748
01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:36,840
Speaker 1: Is it is crazy because he literally just signed the

1749
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:38,160
Speaker 1: contract extensive.

1750
01:15:37,880 --> 01:15:40,639
Speaker 4: Crazy and it's obviously nonsense to people getting carried away.

1751
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:44,000
Speaker 4: But as has been well documented, this bounding deal, I mean,

1752
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:47,680
Speaker 4: we're talking about whether you play with a better hand

1753
01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:49,800
Speaker 4: because it's going to give you a moderately better chance

1754
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:52,320
Speaker 4: to win a game or put a run together, versus

1755
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:56,160
Speaker 4: seeing what you know with a young rookie or sophomore quarterback.

1756
01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:59,879
Speaker 4: The Browns are in this crazy situation where they're completely

1757
01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:02,240
Speaker 4: They just got to keep on playing Watson, and I

1758
01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:03,640
Speaker 4: hope he times the corner. I don't think he's ever

1759
01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:05,880
Speaker 4: going to get back to Texans Watson, but if he

1760
01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 4: can uptick fifteen to twenty percent, if they could protect

1761
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:11,960
Speaker 4: him a little bit more, if when Nick Chubb comes back,

1762
01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:14,880
Speaker 4: maybe with this steed, then they do become a contender.

1763
01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:16,200
Speaker 4: But I don't think I've any other option. People are

1764
01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:19,120
Speaker 4: talking about Jamis coming in, and Jamis's cameo the Saints

1765
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:22,479
Speaker 4: a few years ago was tidy. Sure, but literally, what's

1766
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:23,559
Speaker 4: the point of bringing him in?

1767
01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:26,880
Speaker 6: Well, bringing James out and he gives him trying to

1768
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:28,040
Speaker 6: win some football games.

1769
01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:30,519
Speaker 2: Game, but they have side.

1770
01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:33,160
Speaker 1: I think de John Watson is bad enough that it's

1771
01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:36,160
Speaker 1: fair to expect Jamis Winston to play better.

1772
01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:38,200
Speaker 2: Yes, by a significant.

1773
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:41,719
Speaker 1: By a significant significant, especially in that offense where Stefanski

1774
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:45,439
Speaker 1: has shown. Jamis's last few appearances in New orlends we're

1775
01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:49,080
Speaker 1: pretty rough. But Kevin Savansky has shown that he can

1776
01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:51,719
Speaker 1: make players look better than they have been in other spots,

1777
01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:54,439
Speaker 1: and so I would expect Jamis under Stefanski to be

1778
01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:56,519
Speaker 1: That's a good point. Yeah, just I think this is

1779
01:16:56,520 --> 01:16:58,720
Speaker 1: gonna be Deshn Watson's last start if it doesn't go well.

1780
01:16:58,720 --> 01:16:59,639
Speaker 2: I think they're at that point.

1781
01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:01,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think so too, But I'm surprised it hasn't

1782
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:04,120
Speaker 6: happened already to the point where it feels like because

1783
01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:06,000
Speaker 6: they just can't get out of the contract. So it

1784
01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:07,840
Speaker 6: might even be a thing from on high, like we

1785
01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:09,040
Speaker 6: just couldn't bench this guy.

1786
01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:09,720
Speaker 5: What are we gonna do?

1787
01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:13,240
Speaker 6: Just have a ninety two million dollars on the sideline,

1788
01:17:13,360 --> 01:17:13,720
Speaker 6: you know what?

1789
01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:16,840
Speaker 1: Who moderately enjoys this, So I'm sure he wants to

1790
01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:19,559
Speaker 1: win games? Though, is Jim Schwartz, Who's like, no one's

1791
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:22,680
Speaker 1: talking about how my defense is pretty easy to run on.

1792
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:25,040
Speaker 1: We're about to play the Eagles, Like, we've gone from

1793
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:28,120
Speaker 1: one of the best defenses in the league to an

1794
01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:29,960
Speaker 1: average to below average.

1795
01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:31,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, defense like that.

1796
01:17:31,479 --> 01:17:35,280
Speaker 6: Defensive football, you don't have sustainability unless you have magical

1797
01:17:35,280 --> 01:17:36,320
Speaker 6: plays all three levels.

1798
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:37,920
Speaker 5: They don't. They have a really talented front.

1799
01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:39,920
Speaker 6: They got some east in the secondary, but it's not

1800
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:41,559
Speaker 6: like that overwhelmed with Alan.

1801
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:44,679
Speaker 2: And this is a really tough match.

1802
01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:46,920
Speaker 1: Right last week they actually had a couple of positive

1803
01:17:46,920 --> 01:17:49,360
Speaker 1: play plays and series in the first half and then

1804
01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:51,280
Speaker 1: eventually the damn sort of broke. But this is a

1805
01:17:51,360 --> 01:17:54,519
Speaker 1: terrible matchup for them because this this defense is very

1806
01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:58,719
Speaker 1: susceptible uh to uh the run, and I think coming

1807
01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:02,200
Speaker 1: off this with like the Eagles, they were all Saquon

1808
01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:05,479
Speaker 1: Barkley having a big game. All right, we're gonna take

1809
01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:08,519
Speaker 1: one quick break. I'm gonna say goodbye to you Nat

1810
01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:12,160
Speaker 1: right here. You are out of here. I love you, buddy,

1811
01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:15,360
Speaker 1: like you have been a pal to me on all

1812
01:18:15,400 --> 01:18:20,760
Speaker 1: these trips. Everyone check out NAT's podcast and uh, you know,

1813
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:22,360
Speaker 1: it's been a pleasure.

1814
01:18:22,439 --> 01:18:23,320
Speaker 2: We will do this again.

1815
01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:25,400
Speaker 4: He's great to see you, man, Thank you very much

1816
01:18:25,439 --> 01:18:27,720
Speaker 4: for having me. I'm thoroughly enjoyed it. Always done a

1817
01:18:27,760 --> 01:18:30,320
Speaker 4: lot with as well. Yeah, so good to see you, bro.

1818
01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:32,800
Speaker 2: Okay, and we'll be back quickly right after this break.

1819
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Speaker 1: All right, back on NFL Daily, wrapping up our Week

1820
01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:47,479
Speaker 1: six preview show. It has been really fun to be

1821
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:51,839
Speaker 1: here at the Greenwood Sports Pub in London, the Bears

1822
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:56,160
Speaker 1: home for the week. We said goodbye to one iconic

1823
01:18:56,280 --> 01:19:01,200
Speaker 1: presenter in London and we're welcoming in another.

1824
01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:03,080
Speaker 2: Yes, so Nat Coombs is gone.

1825
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:07,200
Speaker 1: Neil Reynolds is here for Sky Sports Neil's actually got

1826
01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:08,120
Speaker 1: in his contract.

1827
01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:09,519
Speaker 2: Ali Connolly is still with us.

1828
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:12,920
Speaker 1: Ali probably doesn't know this, but Neil refuses to do

1829
01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:15,320
Speaker 1: anything on air with Nat Koombs so they can be

1830
01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:18,280
Speaker 1: on the same show at the same time that their rivals.

1831
01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:20,000
Speaker 7: Although we used to we used to be back in

1832
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 7: the day on BBC Radio. Okay, yeah, I had that

1833
01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:22,880
Speaker 7: written in.

1834
01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:25,519
Speaker 3: Luckily you found me sort of on the floor under

1835
01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:27,280
Speaker 3: the bar and drugged me out.

1836
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:27,880
Speaker 2: So I wish.

1837
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:30,160
Speaker 1: I wish you were that way, but you're too responsible

1838
01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:33,560
Speaker 1: for that. We're actually doing a show for your podcast

1839
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:35,479
Speaker 1: and Sky Sports later in the day.

1840
01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:38,479
Speaker 2: He This is how big time Neil is. Ali.

1841
01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:41,360
Speaker 1: I know for a fact he is at a dinner

1842
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:45,080
Speaker 1: later tonight that includes Roger Goodell, and this is like

1843
01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:47,439
Speaker 1: a tough invite to get.

1844
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:49,839
Speaker 2: I've looked at the invite. I'm not gonna say.

1845
01:19:49,680 --> 01:19:52,479
Speaker 1: Everyone that's on here, I'm already blowing up your spot

1846
01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:57,040
Speaker 1: that you're there. But it's either massive like celebrities in

1847
01:19:57,120 --> 01:20:00,840
Speaker 1: terms of former NFL players or people that makes seven

1848
01:20:00,920 --> 01:20:02,200
Speaker 1: figures at the NFL.

1849
01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:04,439
Speaker 7: How do I do neither of those things?

1850
01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:09,759
Speaker 1: But I saw the seating chart and I was told

1851
01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:12,360
Speaker 1: I cannot talk about the seating chart on this podcast,

1852
01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:12,960
Speaker 1: so I won't.

1853
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:14,040
Speaker 2: I won't. All right, we're.

1854
01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:17,120
Speaker 1: Gonna We're gonna finish off the previews show by talking

1855
01:20:17,160 --> 01:20:19,960
Speaker 1: to little Jags Bears. I just felt like, all right,

1856
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:22,360
Speaker 1: let's let's finish off the show this way. I'm excited

1857
01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:25,200
Speaker 1: for this one. I chose, not that I, you know,

1858
01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:27,240
Speaker 1: like had the pick of the litter, but like I

1859
01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:30,160
Speaker 1: pushed to come to this week's game because I thought

1860
01:20:30,600 --> 01:20:33,800
Speaker 1: I can see Caleb Williams play football in person. That's

1861
01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:37,000
Speaker 1: something I've never done before and I hope to do

1862
01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:40,680
Speaker 1: like more than once, and so I'm really excited for that.

1863
01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:44,080
Speaker 1: Just from a bird's eye view, Like looking at this game, Neil, Neil,

1864
01:20:44,120 --> 01:20:44,960
Speaker 1: what gets you going?

1865
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:46,519
Speaker 2: The Bears are favored by two.

1866
01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:48,479
Speaker 7: So I know it's so obvious, but that's where we

1867
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:49,360
Speaker 7: would start as well.

1868
01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:51,479
Speaker 3: When you look at Trevor coming off his best game

1869
01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:55,080
Speaker 3: of the season for the Jags behind a kind of

1870
01:20:55,160 --> 01:20:58,839
Speaker 3: healthier offensive line using Brian Thomas and all those weapons,

1871
01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:01,240
Speaker 3: So you know it's most fans can go to that

1872
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:02,240
Speaker 3: game on Sunday.

1873
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:04,280
Speaker 7: Are going to pay attention to the quarterbacks. We always do.

1874
01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:08,479
Speaker 3: Caleb is I can see why, and it's unfair on

1875
01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:10,480
Speaker 3: a young rookie. I can see why.

1876
01:21:10,200 --> 01:21:12,920
Speaker 7: He gets the kind of Mahomes comparisons.

1877
01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:15,160
Speaker 3: Sometimes not all the time, but there's just sometimes that

1878
01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:17,920
Speaker 3: we will play and you're like, ah, that looks great.

1879
01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:19,920
Speaker 3: I saw it in training camp. I was sat with

1880
01:21:20,720 --> 01:21:24,559
Speaker 3: Albert brit from Sports Illustrating. We're watching Caleb make this

1881
01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:28,200
Speaker 3: incredible play, climbs the pocket, rolls to his right, throws

1882
01:21:28,240 --> 01:21:31,440
Speaker 3: as he's falling away to Roman Donze from forty yards downfield,

1883
01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:33,439
Speaker 3: and al but when you know what that looks like,

1884
01:21:33,439 --> 01:21:33,680
Speaker 3: don't you?

1885
01:21:33,720 --> 01:21:35,200
Speaker 7: I said, yeah, I saw him in Kansas.

1886
01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:37,519
Speaker 3: City yesterday on the day before. I mean, so there's

1887
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:38,840
Speaker 3: a lot to be excited about, and it.

1888
01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:39,639
Speaker 7: Starts with the quarterback.

1889
01:21:39,640 --> 01:21:42,400
Speaker 1: Well, you must attacked, not to just hold off on

1890
01:21:42,439 --> 01:21:44,160
Speaker 1: the game for a second, you must attack. To Caleb

1891
01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:46,200
Speaker 1: that day too, what was he like as a person,

1892
01:21:46,360 --> 01:21:48,360
Speaker 1: Because Neil, whenever you go on those trips of it,

1893
01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:52,920
Speaker 1: you're always sending those those on Instagram, all your pictures,

1894
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:56,000
Speaker 1: and you get the coach, You get the coach and

1895
01:21:56,040 --> 01:21:59,000
Speaker 1: the quarterback at every right place. There's no way I'm

1896
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:01,479
Speaker 1: getting those guys. So that's exciting. Yeah.

1897
01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:02,599
Speaker 7: I spoke to Caleb in the summer.

1898
01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:03,720
Speaker 4: I spoke to Caleb.

1899
01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:06,479
Speaker 3: Yesterday as well, sit down with him yesterday. I just

1900
01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:09,320
Speaker 3: saw Jomp there. Yeah, he's I really like him. I

1901
01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 3: think he's I noticed from off the field stuff first

1902
01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:15,640
Speaker 3: when I met him in Chicago. Very comfortable in his

1903
01:22:15,680 --> 01:22:17,720
Speaker 3: own skin. He's going to be who he wants to be.

1904
01:22:17,720 --> 01:22:20,040
Speaker 3: He's going to show his emotions. He's going to lead

1905
01:22:20,080 --> 01:22:22,600
Speaker 3: the way he wants to lead, and I really respect that.

1906
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:27,080
Speaker 3: I think he's learning like to be. He said he likes,

1907
01:22:27,439 --> 01:22:30,400
Speaker 3: obviously everyone likes the out of structure place. He what

1908
01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:32,439
Speaker 3: kind of gets him up in the morning is making

1909
01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:35,639
Speaker 3: on time throws what he calls the kind of boring stuff,

1910
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:38,320
Speaker 3: but it's what we need to see to make this

1911
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:42,400
Speaker 3: offense go. He also said that after last week's game,

1912
01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:46,800
Speaker 3: he got home and then texted the quarterbacks coach. Was

1913
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:49,439
Speaker 3: listed out the things he wanted to work on this week,

1914
01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:50,800
Speaker 3: and I kind of stopped him.

1915
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:52,599
Speaker 7: I was like, you threw for over three hundred yards.

1916
01:22:52,439 --> 01:22:54,160
Speaker 3: You won your second game in a row, everyone's talking

1917
01:22:54,160 --> 01:22:57,439
Speaker 3: about great, he was, and you're sitting at home listing

1918
01:22:57,479 --> 01:22:58,840
Speaker 3: out what you want to work on this week.

1919
01:22:58,880 --> 01:22:59,639
Speaker 7: So I'm very.

1920
01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:02,519
Speaker 1: Impressed with It's interesting he said that, then what makes

1921
01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:05,639
Speaker 1: him excited is the on time throws, Ali, because you've

1922
01:23:05,680 --> 01:23:10,280
Speaker 1: put it really well on your podcast with John Ledyard. Again,

1923
01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:12,880
Speaker 1: everyone check out the read option. Or I thought you

1924
01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:16,880
Speaker 1: said it in a way that maybe the first few

1925
01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:19,240
Speaker 1: weeks of the season, like they threw a lot at

1926
01:23:19,320 --> 01:23:21,880
Speaker 1: him and maybe they paired it down and that's led

1927
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:23,400
Speaker 1: to better results the last few weeks.

1928
01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:24,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, And I think a lot of that is on

1929
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:27,559
Speaker 6: the staff too. They were trying to do everything, imagine

1930
01:23:27,600 --> 01:23:29,880
Speaker 6: we'll get to the best possible play, and he was

1931
01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:30,880
Speaker 6: just being asked to do an awful lot.

1932
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Speaker 5: Neil mentioned it there. He's running everything at the line

1933
01:23:33,240 --> 01:23:35,320
Speaker 5: of scrimmage. That was not who he was projected to

1934
01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:36,240
Speaker 5: be coming into the league.

1935
01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:37,880
Speaker 6: He was never has to do that still for USC,

1936
01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:40,600
Speaker 6: That's what it is really basic at USC. Waldron's is

1937
01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:43,519
Speaker 6: beyond expensive compared to the rest of the league anyway,

1938
01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:45,320
Speaker 6: and he's going up to the line of screamage with

1939
01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:46,280
Speaker 6: three or four play He's.

1940
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:47,240
Speaker 5: Having to pick that apart.

1941
01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:50,519
Speaker 6: I think that they certainly you can tell pad certain

1942
01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 6: things down situationally, the start of drives is the most

1943
01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:55,120
Speaker 6: obvious one. The first two plays of every drive, there

1944
01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:57,920
Speaker 6: is no checking anymore. It's like, let's get this guy comfortable.

1945
01:23:58,080 --> 01:23:59,960
Speaker 6: If he's comfortable, and we can get the drive role.

1946
01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:02,760
Speaker 6: Dennis Neil mentioned, we can get more of the phone

1947
01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:05,400
Speaker 6: creative plays. But the thing with Williams is always been

1948
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:08,080
Speaker 6: the for as fun as the squashy stiff is, he

1949
01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:11,360
Speaker 6: was still unbelievable on time and in rhythm of usc

1950
01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:13,559
Speaker 6: he just had a bad offensive line for the most part.

1951
01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:16,559
Speaker 6: So I think the development is gonna be really interesting.

1952
01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:19,800
Speaker 6: This week is a really really fun matchup. But I

1953
01:24:19,840 --> 01:24:22,400
Speaker 6: couldn't be more impressed. Honestly. I think there was people

1954
01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:24,720
Speaker 6: have thrown that's always out the Proun way too early,

1955
01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:27,040
Speaker 6: given what was in those early weeks.

1956
01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:29,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you would love to see, just as a fan,

1957
01:24:29,840 --> 01:24:32,719
Speaker 1: a few more of the big plays and the off,

1958
01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:35,840
Speaker 1: you know, structure plays, because there's almost been times the

1959
01:24:35,880 --> 01:24:38,080
Speaker 1: last few weeks here you can almost see him thinking like,

1960
01:24:38,439 --> 01:24:40,559
Speaker 1: don't leave the pocket, don't leave the pocket. And it's

1961
01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:45,479
Speaker 1: worked in two pretty advantageous matchups, the Rams and then

1962
01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:50,560
Speaker 1: the Panthers. This is similarly advantageous against the Jaguars in

1963
01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:52,800
Speaker 1: the back end. I think the one chance the Jaguars

1964
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:55,800
Speaker 1: have is if Trayvon Walker and josh heinz Allen have

1965
01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:58,720
Speaker 1: like a big time game getting pressure on him, then

1966
01:24:58,760 --> 01:24:59,600
Speaker 1: then they have a little bit of.

1967
01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:01,840
Speaker 7: A chance that line's playing better. You look at the

1968
01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:03,040
Speaker 7: line the last couple of weeks.

1969
01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:05,519
Speaker 3: Again, it's all relative against who they're playing against, but

1970
01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:08,640
Speaker 3: you know that is that's where the key matchup is.

1971
01:25:08,720 --> 01:25:10,800
Speaker 3: I think, you know, on that pressure if they can

1972
01:25:10,840 --> 01:25:15,479
Speaker 3: get to Caleb Williams. He recognizes he's a rookie as well.

1973
01:25:15,520 --> 01:25:18,320
Speaker 3: He talked about that yesterday. He said that he's quite

1974
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:21,439
Speaker 3: hard on himself and that he feels at times he

1975
01:25:21,479 --> 01:25:23,360
Speaker 3: maybe needs to give himself a little bit more grace

1976
01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:26,000
Speaker 3: because he said, I have to remember that I am

1977
01:25:26,040 --> 01:25:29,080
Speaker 3: a rookie. So to your point only about the too

1978
01:25:29,160 --> 01:25:31,479
Speaker 3: much on the plate all of that stuff, I think

1979
01:25:31,479 --> 01:25:32,880
Speaker 3: that is a real thing and it was a real

1980
01:25:32,920 --> 01:25:33,759
Speaker 3: thing for him.

1981
01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:34,519
Speaker 5: Yeah. I think.

1982
01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:36,680
Speaker 6: Look, they took the opposite of bros To what is

1983
01:25:36,720 --> 01:25:38,000
Speaker 6: happening in Washington with jade and Daniels.

1984
01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:39,320
Speaker 5: Who mentioned Jadean Daniels before.

1985
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:42,840
Speaker 6: What is asked of Daniels is fairly simply stick for

1986
01:25:43,040 --> 01:25:45,000
Speaker 6: the offense has been unbelievable and it's the best way

1987
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:47,479
Speaker 6: to approach winning games. Jane Daniels as an MVP candidate.

1988
01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:50,600
Speaker 6: It feels of Caleb Williams like they took the seventeen

1989
01:25:50,720 --> 01:25:53,479
Speaker 6: game six year view of let's just giving the mother

1990
01:25:53,600 --> 01:25:55,920
Speaker 6: load and hopefully figures out by the midpoint. This is

1991
01:25:55,960 --> 01:25:58,080
Speaker 6: the week, I think where we will get more of

1992
01:25:58,120 --> 01:26:01,080
Speaker 6: the out of structure stuff. They jagged, don't blitz, they

1993
01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:04,719
Speaker 6: don't simulate pressia, they don't do anything. They play press coverage.

1994
01:26:04,760 --> 01:26:07,240
Speaker 6: They send full guys. It is really old fashioned Ryle

1995
01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:10,519
Speaker 6: Neilson defense. So he's no longer have to diagnose is

1996
01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:11,960
Speaker 6: that guy dropping, who's rolling?

1997
01:26:11,960 --> 01:26:13,400
Speaker 5: Well, what's happening in the secondary?

1998
01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:15,519
Speaker 6: If someone just flushes in his face, he can just

1999
01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:17,320
Speaker 6: then go and do Caleb believes this.

2000
01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:18,080
Speaker 2: I hope we see that.

2001
01:26:18,120 --> 01:26:22,679
Speaker 1: And yeah, the Ryan Nielsen Jaguars have been underwhelming. They've

2002
01:26:22,720 --> 01:26:27,080
Speaker 1: had injuries, certainly at linebacker and cornerback where they might

2003
01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:31,200
Speaker 1: have issues anyways, but it just hasn't gone well at all.

2004
01:26:31,240 --> 01:26:32,320
Speaker 2: So that's a good matchic.

2005
01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:35,479
Speaker 1: On the flip side, I do kind of think about

2006
01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:38,759
Speaker 1: Caleb what he said to you about the notes coming

2007
01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:43,000
Speaker 1: back on Sundays night and wanting to get better and better,

2008
01:26:43,040 --> 01:26:46,200
Speaker 1: and we don't know what's going on in the Jaguars building.

2009
01:26:46,280 --> 01:26:49,280
Speaker 1: But what we haven't seen on the field from Trevor

2010
01:26:49,320 --> 01:26:55,519
Speaker 1: Lawrence is like a progression of here's the details that

2011
01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:59,080
Speaker 1: he's getting better at in his career. He always has

2012
01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:02,200
Speaker 1: missed more through that are there. Then I liked in

2013
01:27:02,280 --> 01:27:04,479
Speaker 1: terms of him getting to his ceiling. This year it's

2014
01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:07,680
Speaker 1: been on another level where until last week it was

2015
01:27:07,920 --> 01:27:10,360
Speaker 1: a lot. And he's a streaky quarterback and this is

2016
01:27:10,360 --> 01:27:12,240
Speaker 1: a really tough matchup for him.

2017
01:27:12,240 --> 01:27:13,400
Speaker 2: So I want a close game.

2018
01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:16,280
Speaker 1: I always in London and rooting for just like, let's

2019
01:27:16,280 --> 01:27:18,479
Speaker 1: get some points and let's have it within one score.

2020
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:21,200
Speaker 1: And I'm a little worried on both ends this week.

2021
01:27:21,240 --> 01:27:21,600
Speaker 2: We don't know.

2022
01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:24,479
Speaker 1: It's only a two point spread here if you want

2023
01:27:24,479 --> 01:27:26,680
Speaker 1: to trust that he and Lawrence is coming off his

2024
01:27:26,680 --> 01:27:28,080
Speaker 1: best game of the year. But I think there is

2025
01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:29,960
Speaker 1: a way that you could see this game being like

2026
01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:31,800
Speaker 1: twenty six to ten or something like that.

2027
01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:34,599
Speaker 3: I mean, I think Trevor now and you know, I'm

2028
01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:38,479
Speaker 3: a big supporter of him, and I enjoy enjoy watching

2029
01:27:38,479 --> 01:27:41,800
Speaker 3: his highs, but I think you get frustrated by the lows,

2030
01:27:41,840 --> 01:27:45,800
Speaker 3: and they are both in equal measure, and we got

2031
01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:48,640
Speaker 3: body of work now this is year four and he

2032
01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:51,000
Speaker 3: knows that he talked about that in the summer, that

2033
01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:54,160
Speaker 3: this is the best team they've ever had, and they

2034
01:27:54,360 --> 01:27:55,599
Speaker 3: all talked about finishing.

2035
01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:57,200
Speaker 2: Wait, so you got Lawrence too?

2036
01:27:58,240 --> 01:28:00,479
Speaker 3: Oh, I said he said about it. I didn't say

2037
01:28:00,479 --> 01:28:02,679
Speaker 3: he said it to me. Yeah, you know I'm hearing

2038
01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:03,679
Speaker 3: what I'm hearing.

2039
01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:05,280
Speaker 2: I gotcha, I got it. Let's try.

2040
01:28:06,479 --> 01:28:08,120
Speaker 1: I mean, he would be an intimidating guy for a

2041
01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:11,560
Speaker 1: you to go just interview just because well just because.

2042
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:13,600
Speaker 2: Why the hair? You know, I don't like to have.

2043
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:14,400
Speaker 7: I don't need that.

2044
01:28:14,760 --> 01:28:17,439
Speaker 2: Okay, that's true. You've done You've done well, You've done well.

2045
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:19,240
Speaker 4: Oh wow, it was eight minutes.

2046
01:28:20,160 --> 01:28:21,280
Speaker 2: A sorry about that.

2047
01:28:21,439 --> 01:28:26,720
Speaker 1: I he justly though, like this year has been particularly disappointing.

2048
01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:30,679
Speaker 6: What really frustrates me with him is at this stage,

2049
01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:32,840
Speaker 6: I just accept we're getting twenty five turn of a

2050
01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:33,880
Speaker 6: worthy Frozer season.

2051
01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:34,559
Speaker 5: That's who he is.

2052
01:28:34,720 --> 01:28:36,920
Speaker 6: Philip Rivers had years like that and he was able

2053
01:28:36,920 --> 01:28:38,760
Speaker 6: to trim from the fat as it went along. What

2054
01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:41,280
Speaker 6: is just odd about his game is he's very nuanced

2055
01:28:41,280 --> 01:28:43,920
Speaker 6: as a player. When you watch him mechanically, he does

2056
01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:47,640
Speaker 6: an awful off Matt Ryan type things to maneuve, rom

2057
01:28:47,640 --> 01:28:49,960
Speaker 6: manipulate people. So that is in there. You know that

2058
01:28:50,000 --> 01:28:52,920
Speaker 6: player exists, but it's as though he gets sloppy or

2059
01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:56,120
Speaker 6: lazy or bored mid game, and it's just we're at

2060
01:28:56,120 --> 01:28:58,479
Speaker 6: the stage now where you just can't have that degree

2061
01:28:58,520 --> 01:29:01,000
Speaker 6: of variance week in week. You can live with a

2062
01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:03,880
Speaker 6: guy who makes three special throws a game and has

2063
01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:05,560
Speaker 6: one dude that he's going to turn over, and you

2064
01:29:05,640 --> 01:29:07,559
Speaker 6: just go, that's who he is, as long as it's

2065
01:29:07,600 --> 01:29:09,040
Speaker 6: all the open, easy ones.

2066
01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:10,680
Speaker 5: And he just misses too many of the open easy ones.

2067
01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:12,519
Speaker 6: So the trade off becomes, we got a guy who's

2068
01:29:12,520 --> 01:29:14,720
Speaker 6: not keeping those on schedule all the time. We might

2069
01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:17,200
Speaker 6: get two special throws, but now we're getting two really

2070
01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:18,320
Speaker 6: rough ones every single week.

2071
01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:19,760
Speaker 5: It's just not a way to consistently win.

2072
01:29:20,240 --> 01:29:22,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, not always seeing like the open receivers. And he's

2073
01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:26,080
Speaker 1: had some Brian Thomas Jr. Like I'm excited. I'm exciting

2074
01:29:26,120 --> 01:29:30,360
Speaker 1: that to watch him in person, his progression has been great.

2075
01:29:30,400 --> 01:29:35,720
Speaker 1: To see more hands catches, more contested catches, like he

2076
01:29:36,080 --> 01:29:38,840
Speaker 1: looks like a If he's not a one already, he's

2077
01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:41,800
Speaker 1: a future one. Tanks Big Bigsby and the running game

2078
01:29:41,840 --> 01:29:44,120
Speaker 1: has gotten going so there is a route to them

2079
01:29:44,200 --> 01:29:46,479
Speaker 1: kind of catching fire in London like they did a

2080
01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:46,840
Speaker 1: year ago.

2081
01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:48,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. I don't think last last week

2082
01:29:48,760 --> 01:29:50,760
Speaker 3: was a fluke. I think they've got healthier. I think

2083
01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:53,360
Speaker 3: they've still got I've still got talent there, you know,

2084
01:29:53,400 --> 01:29:55,320
Speaker 3: and Thomas's is so exciting.

2085
01:29:55,400 --> 01:29:57,920
Speaker 7: I think there's a little bit of so.

2086
01:29:57,880 --> 01:29:59,960
Speaker 3: When I first watched him play, I kind of just

2087
01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:03,040
Speaker 3: saw saw a few plays early on in the season,

2088
01:30:03,080 --> 01:30:05,280
Speaker 3: I was like, he's like a he's quite it was

2089
01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:07,400
Speaker 3: almost like a running back after the catch. But then

2090
01:30:07,400 --> 01:30:09,160
Speaker 3: I watched him like, you know, he could fly. He's

2091
01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:12,320
Speaker 3: like a proper a proper speeds. I mean, he's got everything.

2092
01:30:12,360 --> 01:30:15,920
Speaker 3: And so he's definitely given them them juice. Bigsby has

2093
01:30:15,960 --> 01:30:18,519
Speaker 3: been a really good kind of a dish with Etn

2094
01:30:18,560 --> 01:30:21,320
Speaker 3: being a bit injured and a bit banged up. Doug

2095
01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:24,160
Speaker 3: Peterson says that it's still Etn's job, but I think

2096
01:30:24,160 --> 01:30:26,519
Speaker 3: you've got to give Bigsby carries now he's earned them.

2097
01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:29,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and their their line needs to play better like that.

2098
01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:31,720
Speaker 1: I think that's been an underrated issue the last couple

2099
01:30:31,720 --> 01:30:33,680
Speaker 1: of years. I think they were expecting Anton Harrison the

2100
01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:36,240
Speaker 1: right tackle the play like at another level this year

2101
01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:39,479
Speaker 1: that maybe hasn't happened for them. All right, that that's it.

2102
01:30:39,520 --> 01:30:43,040
Speaker 1: We've we've talked this game out. Uh, Olie Connelly, thank

2103
01:30:43,080 --> 01:30:46,960
Speaker 1: you for spending all this time. He's going to be

2104
01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:50,599
Speaker 1: back on Sunday night. You're not backing out of that yet, Yeah,

2105
01:30:51,640 --> 01:30:56,280
Speaker 1: Sunday after midnight on Sunday, like overstaffed that game because

2106
01:30:56,320 --> 01:30:59,719
Speaker 1: that Uh So we're gonna be working on Sky Sports.

2107
01:30:59,720 --> 01:31:02,200
Speaker 1: If you gonna be in the UK, you'll be watching

2108
01:31:02,240 --> 01:31:06,679
Speaker 1: Neil Reynolds uh covering the pregame and then during obviously

2109
01:31:06,840 --> 01:31:10,400
Speaker 1: Jaguars Bears. I'll be part of that coverage as well

2110
01:31:10,439 --> 01:31:12,080
Speaker 1: before the game and during the game a little bit

2111
01:31:12,080 --> 01:31:14,240
Speaker 1: on the sidelines, and then I'll head back. I'll be

2112
01:31:14,240 --> 01:31:17,040
Speaker 1: part of their their coverage and then we're gonna tape

2113
01:31:17,080 --> 01:31:22,120
Speaker 1: an NFL Daily actually at the Talk Sports studios at

2114
01:31:22,160 --> 01:31:22,680
Speaker 1: one a m.

2115
01:31:22,800 --> 01:31:25,760
Speaker 2: And so Ali has Yeah, Ali is.

2116
01:31:25,720 --> 01:31:28,759
Speaker 1: Gonna join me there, and Phoebe Scheckter is gonna drive

2117
01:31:28,840 --> 01:31:33,720
Speaker 1: with me. Uh from the Sky studio. Yes, I know,

2118
01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:36,280
Speaker 1: I know you won't be there at the studios. I'll

2119
01:31:36,640 --> 01:31:39,920
Speaker 1: ask the Rich Eisen of the UK to join me

2120
01:31:39,960 --> 01:31:40,439
Speaker 1: at one am.

2121
01:31:42,439 --> 01:31:44,839
Speaker 2: I appreciate you need to.

2122
01:31:44,200 --> 01:31:46,600
Speaker 1: Be here, and yeah, you're gonna help me make some

2123
01:31:46,960 --> 01:31:50,080
Speaker 1: picks on our Friday afternoon show as well. Uh so

2124
01:31:50,200 --> 01:31:54,000
Speaker 1: for Neil for Allie. Uh yeah, like when when we're

2125
01:31:54,000 --> 01:31:55,839
Speaker 1: in the Greenwood Sports Pub.

2126
01:31:55,920 --> 01:31:58,040
Speaker 2: You know that football is back. See next time.