Speaker 1: Episode five Here on h O H bry b K.
Speaker 2: Go for dream Sorcerer.
Speaker 1: Dream Sorcerer written by Constance Burge.
Speaker 2: Nightmares are taken to a whole new level when a
Speaker 2: mad scientist murders women and their slumber. But when a
Speaker 2: sleepy serial killer comes for Prue.
Speaker 1: Can I direct you for one second and just ask
Speaker 1: you to read it?
Speaker 2: I was trying to do it like the guy in
Speaker 2: the show.
Speaker 1: No, just read it normal?
Speaker 2: No no no, I was like, let me be the
Speaker 2: dream Sorcerer.
Speaker 3: Guy chose its.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 2: Why don't you give it a go?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 3: No, no, this is you know, this is your.
Speaker 1: Come on, BK, you got this. Just say it normal?
Speaker 2: Okay. Dream Sorcerer nightmares are taken to a whole new
Speaker 2: level when a mad scientist murders women in their slumber.
Speaker 2: But when the sleepy serial killer comes for Prue, she
Speaker 2: uses her powers to slay the mirror mortal in his
Speaker 2: own dream. Meanwhile, popular Phoebe cast a love spell that
Speaker 2: backfires big time, causing the lonely sisters to regret conjuring
Speaker 2: a love connection.
Speaker 1: Okay, that was better, but I'm still gonna ask you
Speaker 1: to do it one more time.
Speaker 2: I don't want to do it anymore.
Speaker 5: You have to me.
Speaker 2: You've made me self conscious about it, like my first
Speaker 2: choice terrupting me on the second choice.
Speaker 3: I didn't say anything.
Speaker 1: Think of this as an acting exercise. I think I'm reading,
Speaker 1: I know, but how you read is sometimes acting. Like,
Speaker 1: just read it then, everybody.
Speaker 2: Hush, Okay, okay, okay, dream Sorcerer.
Speaker 1: Don't lower your voice like that, like the minute you start.
Speaker 2: To like my sleepy in bed dream sorcerer voice.
Speaker 1: Just be dream sorcerer. Just say it normal.
Speaker 2: It's not as sexy.
Speaker 3: I'm now going perfect.
Speaker 1: Dream Sorcerer's not sexy either.
Speaker 2: But when you say dream yeah.
Speaker 1: That's not that's.
Speaker 3: You can do it in a British accent.
Speaker 4: Do that?
Speaker 3: Oh no, I can't you your dentals, your teeth up?
Speaker 2: Rex Buckland? Ever say Rex Buckland, Rex Buckland. See that's
Speaker 2: that'd be a good dream Sorcerer one or do we
Speaker 2: need it again?
Speaker 3: This is content, baby, you're crushing. I'm loving this.
Speaker 5: Take three.
Speaker 3: This is the gold. This is the gold that we mine.
Speaker 2: Do I look sweaty?
Speaker 3: Do you look?
Speaker 4: What?
Speaker 5: Do you want to touch up?
Speaker 6: God?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Dreams dream Sorcerer nightmares are taken to a whole
Speaker 2: new level when a mad scientist murders women in their slumber,
Speaker 2: but with a sleepy serial killer comes for Prue, she
Speaker 2: uses her powers to slay the mirror mortal in his
Speaker 2: own dream.
Speaker 7: Meanwhile, Peep Peeper, the one named mess Up.
Speaker 5: He's still mad about John Chow.
Speaker 3: A week later, mad, oh my god, where are you?
Speaker 2: Okay, dream Sorcerer drew.
Speaker 1: And only for a second. Just let Brian get through this. Thanks,
Speaker 1: you're welcome go.
Speaker 2: Dream Treasure nightmares are taken to a whole new level
Speaker 2: when a man scientist murders women in their slumber, but
Speaker 2: when the sleepy serial killer comes from Prue, she uses
Speaker 2: her powers to slay the mere mortal in his own dream. Meanwhile,
Speaker 2: Piper and Phoebe castle love spell that backfires big time.
Speaker 2: I'm causing the lonely sisters to regret conjuring a love connection. Okay, better,
Speaker 2: it's it's doable. It's it's playable.
Speaker 1: That one's playable. I'll work with you later on all this.
Speaker 2: Thanks.
Speaker 1: You know interacting, So.
Speaker 2: Dreams, I'd love to do one in the dreamy sorcerer voice.
Speaker 3: Can you do that? Just just give me like one
Speaker 3: sentence so I can hear what that sounds like?
Speaker 5: Sure.
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, by Bir and Phoebe cast a love spell that
Speaker 2: backfires big time, causing the lonely system.
Speaker 1: Moving on and moving on.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, it's terrible.
Speaker 1: It's like when you it's like when you go a
Speaker 1: mad scientist murders women in their slumber and the like,
Speaker 1: why not just read it like when a mad scientist
Speaker 1: murders women in their slumber because nobody says slumber.
Speaker 2: All right, It's it's like watching you know, when you
Speaker 2: say murder.
Speaker 1: That's not interesting. But I love you. You're great. You
Speaker 1: know you're adding a whole other dimension.
Speaker 2: It's murder has four syllables.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I never thought of it like that. So
Speaker 1: thank you for educating me. And there I appreciate that.
Speaker 3: There's you have a great voice.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 3: I feel like the untapped potential is you know, there's
Speaker 3: a there's an anime out there just dying for you
Speaker 3: to say dreams.
Speaker 1: Okay, So episode weekend, we are at Quake at Piper's
Speaker 1: restaurant that she runs that she owns like you seem to,
Speaker 1: I don't seem to just be dumped in your lap.
Speaker 1: And now it's all yours, right, apparently.
Speaker 3: It starts with these really we come in real hot
Speaker 3: with like some of the worst pickup lines in the
Speaker 3: history of the game. These are just firing lines.
Speaker 5: Those definitely came from bread Kurring.
Speaker 3: Has has it ever worked on?
Speaker 1: What lines?
Speaker 2: Do?
Speaker 1: We start?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 3: Yeah with like did you think something baby something like
Speaker 3: that baby bomb you did?
Speaker 1: Was that not after this ball was cast?
Speaker 3: No, it's literally the opening, like right away opening. It
Speaker 3: just starts with bad pickup lines.
Speaker 1: But Constance wrote this, and Constance doesn't do that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. They came from brad rid
Speaker 5: on it. He did a Polish for sure.
Speaker 1: Okay, So we're in Quake and a handsome stranger in
Speaker 1: a wheelchair named Whittaker gets rejected apparently by me and
Speaker 1: a waitress named Sky Russell, and then it cuts to
Speaker 1: like being in Sky's apartment later that night, and Whittaker
Speaker 1: actually visits Sky in a creepy dream and the next
Speaker 1: morning she has found dead, like the dream is. I
Speaker 1: thought the dream was actually really cool because he sort
Speaker 1: of you know, romances her in a way and then
Speaker 1: pushes her off this really tall building and you see her,
Speaker 1: you know, falling. What appears to be hundreds of stories
Speaker 1: and you're like, well, yeah, but it's a dream, so
Speaker 1: what does this really matter? But then she doesn't wake
Speaker 1: up and her body, like all of her bones are crushed,
Speaker 1: as if she had been thrown off of a incredibly
Speaker 1: high building.
Speaker 6: Right he speaking, somebody is paying right now. You just
Speaker 6: need a slate right now. I think we have we
Speaker 6: did you want to the episode? I think we've skipped
Speaker 6: a very important part. For Yes, Prue refuses the chardonnay
Speaker 6: from the wheelchair bound and.
Speaker 1: Suitor I said, prew rejects him.
Speaker 5: No, but you reject him because you're seeing something someone
Speaker 5: who's apparently now full fledged. Maybe I'll go to the
Speaker 5: SPA with him.
Speaker 3: The f BF name Andy Trudeau.
Speaker 1: You know. I like to skip over that because again,
Speaker 1: like it's too fast forward. Like the last episode, they
Speaker 1: saw each other at Prue's surprise party and like kind
Speaker 1: of waved like.
Speaker 5: He's just hanging out.
Speaker 2: This relationship really develops off camera.
Speaker 3: Well's interesting though in this opening bit is like the
Speaker 3: girls are also complaining about uh being single.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, we're getting there. Do we should we have
Speaker 1: Dorian come in now?
Speaker 2: It's always a good time for Dorian.
Speaker 5: There he is.
Speaker 8: I Hello, Brian Holly, what's happening?
Speaker 5: What's happening?
Speaker 4: Man, good to see it.
Speaker 5: We should have had Dorian do the synopsis because he's
Speaker 5: the full fledged voiceover actor.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just I can't even.
Speaker 8: I have to take a moment because every time my
Speaker 8: heart starts to race when I see you guys, I
Speaker 8: love you, and Shannon is just so awesome to see
Speaker 8: you and I just there it is. That's it, that's it.
Speaker 8: So my moment is gone, there it is.
Speaker 1: I know we've missed you. We need another Paris trip
Speaker 1: or something, right.
Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is gonna be fun, Dorian, because I
Speaker 1: had a lot of questions about you and Andy right right,
Speaker 1: you know, watching it back, because I never watched it before.
Speaker 1: So actually watching it, I'm like, ew, like Andy's kind
Speaker 1: of a stalker and like their relationship doesn't really work.
Speaker 1: What I did love watching it now is like yours
Speaker 1: in Tw's chemistry on camera was really good, Like you
Speaker 1: guys actually had something that worked, as you know, two
Speaker 1: detectives who are partners that hang out and that actually
Speaker 1: had a connection, whereas TW and I there was there
Speaker 1: was no connection, just because they didn't build the relationship
Speaker 1: at all.
Speaker 4: You know, I.
Speaker 8: Go back to a note that I think I talked
Speaker 8: about previously where I made sure to try to be
Speaker 8: a little light and try to which is part of
Speaker 8: what a connection is is the familiarity. And you know
Speaker 8: it was there were times where I don't know if
Speaker 8: there was that same I'm trying to trying to find
Speaker 8: the words we were on the same page of that
Speaker 8: we're partners and there is a there's a humanity about that.
Speaker 8: There's a human being behind that versus what's on the page.
Speaker 8: And I didn't feel that as much as I would
Speaker 8: have liked to. But Aaron, in that first note that
Speaker 8: was given to me, as far as you know, this
Speaker 8: goes beyond the job, your two individuals and your two
Speaker 8: human beings and your friends, and so I you know,
Speaker 8: it was it was an interesting navigation as far as
Speaker 8: trying to have that lightness in the relationship as well
Speaker 8: as being immersed in what this was in this world
Speaker 8: of things that we could not understand, could not explain,
Speaker 8: did not expect.
Speaker 4: But there's still two human beings in there.
Speaker 8: And in times of crisis and when you're faced in that,
Speaker 8: there's going to be that element in there as far
Speaker 8: as how you balance that, and so you know, I
Speaker 8: don't have a good answer for that. He was kind
Speaker 8: of a There was a lot of it was very straightforward,
Speaker 8: and I didn't see enough levels and in that dynamic
Speaker 8: that I would have liked.
Speaker 1: I understand that. I will say though, that I think
Speaker 1: you brought a lot of different levels into it because
Speaker 1: you did bring the lightness, you did bring the like, Hey,
Speaker 1: but I've known you forever, like I know when you're
Speaker 1: an asshole, I know when you're you know, taking things
Speaker 1: too far, like I know when you're not paying attention
Speaker 1: to your job and you're paying too much attention to
Speaker 1: the girl. Like there was enough of that and to
Speaker 1: where I mean, to be brutally honest, like when we
Speaker 1: were filming and you guys had scenes together, I was
Speaker 1: always like, God, is this like working Like it just
Speaker 1: doesn't seem like they work together. And then watching it,
Speaker 1: I was like, holy crap, that relationship really worked, Like
Speaker 1: it was really good on camera. So yeah, kudos to you,
Speaker 1: because I think you did a great job.
Speaker 4: I thank you for saying that. I think it worked.
Speaker 8: In totality, this relationship was this this this synergy of
Speaker 8: what you guys were navigating through, and Brian and Drew
Speaker 8: and everybody as they as we progressed on in their
Speaker 8: contribution to this mainline story, and that helped because that
Speaker 8: scene was never just about two people. It was about
Speaker 8: what was happening in totality, and you guys really made
Speaker 8: that work and gave me something to feed off of constantly,
Speaker 8: whether you were in the scene or not, because if
Speaker 8: you were there, if you weren't there, the scene was
Speaker 8: still about you, because that scene was what you guys
Speaker 8: were navigating through, and we were working in partnership to
Speaker 8: try to find some type of elevated relationship to resolve
Speaker 8: this mysterious thing that we were all adapting to.
Speaker 1: Very very intelligently said by Rank, thank.
Speaker 4: You appreciate that. I mean, I.
Speaker 8: Have to state this, I rewatched I don't ever watch
Speaker 8: my work and watching you guys again, and the very
Speaker 8: specific things that each one of you brought as far
Speaker 8: as who you are at the core of character and
Speaker 8: I have I can't say enough about how I feel
Speaker 8: about Holly and how I feel about you and your
Speaker 8: specificity and your commitment to truth and early on we're
Speaker 8: talking about first season, fifth episode, And when I was watching,
Speaker 8: you know, the scenes and there's little subtleties that you
Speaker 8: are connected with, but when you watch closely from an
Speaker 8: artistic standpoint, as far as the truth you bought brought
Speaker 8: when this guy came up and you were the how
Speaker 8: you felt and your whole navigation and connectedness and the
Speaker 8: nuances with your sisters and how you related to them
Speaker 8: and how you guys were still trying to figure that out,
Speaker 8: but you saw history there. It felt like you guys
Speaker 8: had true history, and it felt like there's so the
Speaker 8: such close relationship and you guys were so specific and
Speaker 8: separate in your identity, and watching the craft of that,
Speaker 8: I so enjoyed.
Speaker 1: Wow, well we thank you, Thank you a lot. I
Speaker 1: actually wasn't going in with very high expectations because, like
Speaker 1: Drew had mentioned that he didn't really like this episode,
Speaker 1: now he likes it, and I watched it and I
Speaker 1: was like, I really liked it. I thought that there
Speaker 1: was really sort of interesting things happening in it, and
Speaker 1: I think everything with the sisters. Anyway, we have to
Speaker 1: do the recap, but I did like this episode quite
Speaker 1: a bit.
Speaker 5: It's not my favorite, just obviously because I had to
Speaker 5: do the love spell stuff, which is obviously not my
Speaker 5: favorite if you.
Speaker 1: Look like past that, the overall I think was pretty good.
Speaker 1: I mean, even the special effects of him going into
Speaker 1: dreams and all of that, it wasn't as bad as
Speaker 1: as it could have been. I think that you know,
Speaker 1: they had been progressing and learning, and you know, we
Speaker 1: were out of you know, eyes glowing, which was really good.
Speaker 5: It helps.
Speaker 3: I think probably part of it also is you're just
Speaker 3: coming off of dead Man dating and having still not
Speaker 3: over it deep connection and then to kind of then
Speaker 3: the next episode be casting love spells and putting out
Speaker 3: like what you have.
Speaker 1: It depends right, like of when these were actually shot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but the way it was aired, it doesn't play
Speaker 3: necessarily as authentic as it would if it was aired
Speaker 3: probably in the way you guys shot it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like this one should have been before.
Speaker 1: But the thing is right, we never It wasn't until
Speaker 1: like later season two, season three. I think that we
Speaker 1: were able to take you know, episodes, the episode before
Speaker 1: and let it bleed into the next episode. Back then
Speaker 1: in the late nineties, you always had to end that
Speaker 1: episode and a new episode started completely fresh.
Speaker 5: They wanted them to be standalone. That was a spelling
Speaker 5: thing too. They wanted them to be standalone episodes that
Speaker 5: have anybody happened to catch it, that they would know
Speaker 5: exactly what happened and what the storyline was in the backstory,
Speaker 5: which led to uncomfortable exposition all the time. And yeah,
Speaker 5: it was, and so that they.
Speaker 1: Could sell them like easier, you know, so if somebody
Speaker 1: didn't want to buy a whole season, it wasn't a
Speaker 1: big deal. So it was like a financial thing as
Speaker 1: well as an audience thing. So yes, Like now, as
Speaker 1: a viewer in the two thousands, when TV has changed
Speaker 1: so drastically for the better, you look back and you're like, God,
Speaker 1: she got over that dead guy real fast. But I'm
Speaker 1: also like he's dead, Like are you really going to
Speaker 1: pine Away for a dead guy that you can't even touch?
Speaker 5: I'm telling you this was supposed to be before that episode,
Speaker 5: and so this whole like, ugh, like it's so gross.
Speaker 5: I love love.
Speaker 1: But even then, it's like whatever episode was supposed to,
Speaker 1: you know, originally be after the Dead Men one, I
Speaker 1: don't they probably didn't write your character to still be
Speaker 1: you know, lit, and it's.
Speaker 5: So desperate, like it just rubs me all the wrong ways.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can see why that would do that, but also,
Speaker 3: you know, we would be remiss we didn't say that.
Speaker 3: It's it's why. It's part of what makes charm. Like
Speaker 3: everyone can just pick up and watch it at any point, right,
Speaker 3: Like it's these single serving episodes that have a beginning, middle.
Speaker 1: And end and you still know the characters.
Speaker 3: Exactly, so you know it's it was very It's a
Speaker 3: calculated thing that a lot of networks do and a
Speaker 3: lot of television series do, so you can watch it
Speaker 3: in any order, like maybe they watched Dead Mandating and
Speaker 3: then the next episode they watch, you know, Loveless Down. Yeah, Coyote, Coyote, Piper.
Speaker 8: It's probably hard for you guys to say or truly
Speaker 8: understand because you have so much necessary for the execution
Speaker 8: of this as far as the details that go into this.
Speaker 8: But bottom line, to sum it up, it's the chemistry
Speaker 8: and the relationship that is very unique and that you
Speaker 8: guys pulled off with commitment every episode. And despite all
Speaker 8: these things that know, all these details that you're talking about,
Speaker 8: they're critically important for a good storytelling. That's what everybody
Speaker 8: connected to in the end, it's who is delivering it
Speaker 8: and are you bonded to them and you did that,
Speaker 8: and so there's where we are. There was a fun
Speaker 8: two of this with this, there was a seriousness to this.
Speaker 8: There was a kind of a peek into who you
Speaker 8: guys are. Aside mere character, there are elements of just
Speaker 8: who you are and how you walk normally, and you
Speaker 8: all individually have something something that people are just drawn to.
Speaker 8: And so that's what's happened these two and a half
Speaker 8: decades later as far as why this show continues on.
Speaker 8: But then we also talk about friendships, and we talk
Speaker 8: about love, and we talk about triumphs, and we talk
Speaker 8: about possibility, and that's kind of the undercarriage of what
Speaker 8: this show was all about and discovering what is important
Speaker 8: to you and when you have magic, which is such
Speaker 8: an amazing thing in life, is magic. All things are
Speaker 8: possible when you get what you think you want, do
Speaker 8: you really want that? And once you receive that, you
Speaker 8: start to understand the hierarchy of things As far as
Speaker 8: that thing, well, where does that fall in the line
Speaker 8: of what I truly value? And that's kind of the
Speaker 8: continual message throughout all the episodic installments.
Speaker 5: Well, I still think the Love Spell is personal gain
Speaker 5: all the way. But then because this addendum where it's like, oh,
Speaker 5: but you can reverse it, we've.
Speaker 1: By the way, we've also skipped way ahead, so let's
Speaker 1: look back up. And so we've already established at the quake,
Speaker 1: a handsome stranger in a wheelchair named Whittaker. He gets
Speaker 1: rejected by me and rejected by a waitress named Sky.
Speaker 1: And then later that night, Whittaker visits Sky in a
Speaker 1: very creepy dream, and the next morning she's found dead,
Speaker 1: and Darryl and Andy no, it's a homicide, but they
Speaker 1: can't figure out how she died because all of her
Speaker 1: bones are crushed. But she's like in an apartment, windows
Speaker 1: are closed, doors are locked, so it's like, how did
Speaker 1: she die?
Speaker 2: Right, And they both say murder.
Speaker 1: And then you know, Phoebe and Piper come up with
Speaker 1: a spell to attract men because I guess you guys
Speaker 1: don't have enough men in your lives.
Speaker 5: Because this is what I mean. It just bumps me.
Speaker 5: It just seems so desperate.
Speaker 1: It seems desperate for your character.
Speaker 3: Desperate for the character for sure. And again it's time wise.
Speaker 3: We have to pretend this was pre Mark.
Speaker 5: Yeah, because it was.
Speaker 1: No, we don't we don't have to pretend because you
Speaker 1: have to do it as the audience is seeing it.
Speaker 1: So for us to go, well, we have to pretend
Speaker 1: that it's pre marked because this is how the scripts
Speaker 1: were rolled out. You have to base it on how
Speaker 1: they actually played it to the audience. So, but again,
Speaker 1: standalone episodes. So Mark is a dead guy who's now gone,
Speaker 1: and maybe that's why Piper agrees to do a love spell,
Speaker 1: because like, let's delve into that for a second. Right,
Speaker 1: a woman who is probably not as open to love
Speaker 1: or scared but wants love, falls in love a dead guy.
Speaker 1: Now she's a little bit heartbroken, she still wants that
Speaker 1: love in her life. So when Phoebe, who character would
Speaker 1: do a love spell, you know she could convince Piper
Speaker 1: to listen, you've got to get over and maybe this
Speaker 1: is all played off camera, right, you have to get
Speaker 1: over the dead guy. Like, let's get you a new guy.
Speaker 1: Let's what are you laughing at, Brian, me trying to
Speaker 1: justify all this.
Speaker 5: New dead guy? Go find a new dead guy.
Speaker 3: Shannon, You're absolutely right, this is that's true. Like this
Speaker 3: maybe like the fastest way to get over something is
Speaker 3: into something new.
Speaker 5: Maybe, right, there's plenty of dead fish in the sea.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, So you guys, they create this spell. You and Phoebe.
Speaker 1: People do this all the time to get over one
Speaker 1: brick up, they roll right into a new relationship. So
Speaker 1: you know, maybe they're maybe just trying to move on
Speaker 1: in a way she's trying too hard.
Speaker 3: Well, that brings up the very very question, what do
Speaker 3: you look for in a man?
Speaker 5: Pipe Definitely not roaring fires, not a man who loves
Speaker 5: love like me. Well employed and endowed is fine, but
Speaker 5: endowered sunset bike rides no thanks.
Speaker 3: There's a couple of things that happen in and around
Speaker 3: the scene with Phoebe's character that I feel were actually
Speaker 3: very on brand for her. First her eating like a
Speaker 3: bowl of fruit loops, and then like the thing that
Speaker 3: she thinks is cool and sexy is like a guy
Speaker 3: who rides a motorcycle and you know, blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: Like she it's very her character is very fleshed out.
Speaker 3: I think it works like the things that she's asking
Speaker 3: for are very immature and kind of like surfacy very
Speaker 3: and I think that kind of like is there to
Speaker 3: ultimately teach her a lesson? Yeah, but it definitely plays
Speaker 3: well for the character.
Speaker 5: The moral of the story is you don't want a
Speaker 5: stalker like Andy.
Speaker 3: True.
Speaker 1: Okay, So while you guys are practicing this spell to
Speaker 1: attract men, Whittaker calls for at home because apparently, like
Speaker 1: the charm sisters, are phone numbers on speed dial for everybody,
Speaker 1: for every stalker.
Speaker 5: Now you have two stalkers.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you have taking a bubble bath because that's something
Speaker 1: we've seen Prue before. And Whittaker appears and scratches me,
Speaker 1: starts trying to drown me to death. But I'm saved
Speaker 1: when Piper walks in because she hears me struggling or screaming.
Speaker 5: Whatever.
Speaker 3: Hey, quick question, Prue about the bubble bath. Do you
Speaker 3: remember shooting that? Like was the bath warm? Like how
Speaker 3: did they do? Like if you're because scenes can take
Speaker 3: sometimes over an hour.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they would keep filling it with hot water.
Speaker 3: Okay, nice, I like that. I look simple answers, Simple answers.
Speaker 4: Look.
Speaker 3: I had a scene once where I got into jacuzzi
Speaker 3: and they hadn't cleaned it, and then I got hot
Speaker 3: tub feleculitis. This was always with you.
Speaker 1: I get that.
Speaker 5: What in the what hot tub?
Speaker 3: What fileculitis? Don't google it because you'll never be able
Speaker 3: to unsee it. But like, so sometimes like when they
Speaker 3: are like you were actually in a bath full of
Speaker 3: bubbles taking you know, and scenes can take hours people,
Speaker 3: and so like, how do how do we make sure
Speaker 3: that you are comfortable and happy?
Speaker 1: Is there's a thing called Screen Actors Guild and they
Speaker 1: have like laws and rules that protect actors see people.
Speaker 3: That's I wanted everyone to know that. That's why I
Speaker 3: asked the question.
Speaker 5: They did.
Speaker 1: They didn't apparently protect you, but maybe were you doing
Speaker 1: a student film?
Speaker 3: No, it was a Disney film. I really had to
Speaker 3: go to the hospital. It was gnarly.
Speaker 1: That's crazy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was that they had rented this mansion that
Speaker 3: was like five million dollars and they no one had
Speaker 3: thought to clean the tub or check to see if
Speaker 3: the tub was clean. I get in there, I have
Speaker 3: a scene in there. I'm like in there for two hours.
Speaker 3: It's all bubbly and nice. Jets are on that night
Speaker 3: break out into like the worst fever ever and have
Speaker 3: to be rushed to the hospital.
Speaker 5: That is that's insane.
Speaker 8: I have a question the mechanism used for this being
Speaker 8: the guy that can infistrate dreams and him being immortal
Speaker 8: and I'm curious about that. And it also we have
Speaker 8: the other two buckling. Of course they're they're using him,
Speaker 8: but I'm curious about his no connectiveness, no remorse, and
Speaker 8: and what triggered him to go off in that direction.
Speaker 2: In that manner rejection.
Speaker 3: Rejection, Yeah, Sky, the girl at the waitress after prou
Speaker 3: rejects him, the hostess kind of rejects him.
Speaker 1: But this is something he's been doing forever. I think
Speaker 1: that's what Dorian's point is is, like, how did he
Speaker 1: turn into this guy?
Speaker 2: Well, I thought you guys uncovered that his first partner
Speaker 2: in the dream analysis business he was dating and on
Speaker 2: the way home she had rejected him and died in
Speaker 2: a car crash or something. And then that's when kind
Speaker 2: of set him off because he was rejected by his
Speaker 2: first love or wanted to be loved. Who was his
Speaker 2: dream partner?
Speaker 1: Wow, somebody paid attention.
Speaker 5: It's terrible And that's that's a serial killer, one oh one.
Speaker 4: That's my issue with him.
Speaker 8: You know, it's like that trigger of they were in
Speaker 8: the argument on the way home and so so he
Speaker 8: is assigning his his his handicap now or what has
Speaker 8: happened to him now to this and now everybody's going
Speaker 8: to feel the wrath of him afterwards.
Speaker 2: That was anybody who rejects me, right, Which is interesting
Speaker 2: because he had an opportunity when he got into their
Speaker 2: dream to actually have a good time. He could it
Speaker 2: could have been enjoyable and made their dreams pleasurable and
Speaker 2: fun and light, and he could his dreams in the dream.
Speaker 1: But he's bitter. Was he in a wheelchair prior to
Speaker 1: the accident or did the accident put him in a
Speaker 1: wheelchair in the wheelchair, so then he hasn't actually come
Speaker 1: to terms with being in a wheelchair being rejected, so
Speaker 1: he's just a mess of emotions, none being positive.
Speaker 5: That's serial Killer one oh one is being rejected. They
Speaker 5: take out their isolation and their anger out on innocent people.
Speaker 5: For those of us who watch as much Dateline as.
Speaker 3: I do, is Dateline still on?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 5: It is at least at least two different channels.
Speaker 1: Okay, So phoebe super happy about her muscular new man
Speaker 1: Hans she got thanks to the spell. He looks like
Speaker 1: a lumberjack the guy who was playing them that was hysterical. Meanwhile, Piper,
Speaker 1: you're getting hit on left and right. You're a little
Speaker 1: freaked out, but there's a guy named Jack. And then
Speaker 1: it goes back to the dream Dream Lab with Whittaker,
Speaker 1: where Andy and Daryl visit him at his workplace and
Speaker 1: they questioned him about the dead women. But Whittaker is
Speaker 1: a scientist who does dream experiments. So you guys walk
Speaker 1: away not like one hundred percent sure that he's the guy,
Speaker 1: but you're still very suspicious.
Speaker 8: Right, Well, we go in there and he's got nothing
Speaker 8: but alibis, and we're going on there on the premise
Speaker 8: of dream leaping.
Speaker 4: That's where we went in there with.
Speaker 8: And here I am knowing what the what the issue
Speaker 8: can be with that, So of course we had to leave.
Speaker 8: I had to rush him out of there once he
Speaker 8: came up with well, I've got all this you're coming
Speaker 8: to this dude, this respected person, I say in quotes,
Speaker 8: because of him being a scientist and research and research,
Speaker 8: and he's got all these people that he just referenced
Speaker 8: as far as were the witnesses, and here we are
Speaker 8: pressing about this supernatural stuff. So it's it's not that
Speaker 8: we we had to come to a conclusion, but it
Speaker 8: was time to go. We gathered there's enough of what
Speaker 8: we could at that moment without causing further problem and
Speaker 8: potentially impeding any further progress as far as the investigation
Speaker 8: of this case.
Speaker 5: Wow, do you sound so official? I believe you just
Speaker 5: said I want to watch it again, murd So I
Speaker 5: fall asleep.
Speaker 1: Then then we're at Buckland's and I fall asleep at
Speaker 1: my desk and he comes back. Whitaker comes back to
Speaker 1: visit me in my dream, and he tries to kill me,
Speaker 1: but Andy saves me when he calls and wakes me
Speaker 1: up because Andy is my stalker.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he is right, he knows when you're sleeping.
Speaker 3: No, why do you think Crew doesn't talk about this,
Speaker 3: you know, this thing where you know because he's now
Speaker 3: come to visit you twice at this point, right. Once again,
Speaker 3: what I think.
Speaker 5: Is funny is that I call her and say it's
Speaker 5: an emergency, and she's like, I gotta go buy So
Speaker 5: we're left with the creepy guys all on our own
Speaker 5: because she has her storyline to.
Speaker 1: Do, right. I mean, I think that one of the
Speaker 1: reasons to answer your question, Drew, is that you know
Speaker 1: Prue doesn't ever want to burden her sisters. That's very
Speaker 1: well established through the three seasons. I was on, and
Speaker 1: she always wants to protect them, and that also means
Speaker 1: protecting them from something that's coming for her. So I
Speaker 1: don't think that she wanted to include them because she
Speaker 1: was like, I got to handle this on my own
Speaker 1: and not expose my sisters to any of this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was an interesting choice that And again we'll
Speaker 3: obviously the evolution of your relationship will take place, but
Speaker 3: this early on, something that feels very personal and direct
Speaker 3: to you, that you choose not to burden, as you
Speaker 3: say you don't want to like put your sisters in
Speaker 3: harm's way, I think is admirable but also like an
Speaker 3: interesting thing because ultimately, you guys learned that your power
Speaker 3: and your strength comes from connecting with each other.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're stronger together. But I think that you know,
Speaker 1: like when we watch this Seven Deadly Sins episode, we'll
Speaker 1: see sort of like why Prue makes the choices that
Speaker 1: she makes, why Piper does, why Phoebe does. Like our
Speaker 1: individual sins are very much about who we are and
Speaker 1: how we've led our lives up until that moment. And
Speaker 1: I think that Pru's isn't Prue's sin like pride or something.
Speaker 1: I just think she's so prideful that She's like, no,
Speaker 1: I got it, Like I can handle all of this.
Speaker 4: Yeah. Also she's the older sister, I get. I resonate
Speaker 4: with that.
Speaker 8: But this is still new to you, and you're still,
Speaker 8: despite being more powerful as a unit, you're still dealing
Speaker 8: with these things that you're going to protect, and we
Speaker 8: do that every day. It's like, I could rely on
Speaker 8: people I love where I can care for, but I
Speaker 8: don't want to put them in the potentiality of where
Speaker 8: this could go, despite I'd be despite the fact I'd
Speaker 8: be in a better place with their help, you know,
Speaker 8: And that's where love is.
Speaker 1: It does that right, But you wouldn't be able to
Speaker 1: forgive yourself if something happened to them because you brought
Speaker 1: them into the situation.
Speaker 4: My point exactly right.
Speaker 8: You wouldn't bring them in despite you being more powerful
Speaker 8: with them.
Speaker 2: But then even when you do tell her and you
Speaker 2: scratches and things and stuff, and I saw my mate back,
Speaker 2: Piper's like, ah, you're tired, you imagined it.
Speaker 5: Listen, I got a lot of guys, I gotta juggle,
Speaker 5: got a lot on my plate.
Speaker 4: You do.
Speaker 2: Maybe that's part of you not telling them anyway, because
Speaker 2: she's just gonna be like a you're tired.
Speaker 5: I was the one that called and said it's an emergency,
Speaker 5: and she's like, I'll talk to you later.
Speaker 4: You never saw the scratches? Is that that we were
Speaker 4: talking about?
Speaker 8: You're tired and it didn't happen, but you the scratches
Speaker 8: had disappeared. Proven, I mean, Piper never saw the scratches.
Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you very much.
Speaker 3: You know what list.
Speaker 5: She's had bad dreams before.
Speaker 8: She knows her sister's overwork, and she was talking about
Speaker 8: all this new stuff that came in off the phone quickly.
Speaker 1: Stopped making excuses, dismiss She just dismissed her. Jesus all right,
Speaker 1: police station. So Darryl and Andy. Darryl doesn't really understand
Speaker 1: why Andy thinks Whitaker is the suspect. And Andy says
Speaker 1: he thinks he's into dream leaping quotes and he specifically
Speaker 1: kills women who have rejected him.
Speaker 3: What a leap, talk about leap? Yeah, but this is
Speaker 3: why Andy super detective sleuthing slick. He's sleuthing at his
Speaker 3: best right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's a huge leap to make as somebody
Speaker 1: who supposedly doesn't, you know, believe in witches yet kind
Speaker 1: of does like I don't know that that just was
Speaker 1: a huge leap, But fine, Piper phoebe bombarded by gifts
Speaker 1: and affection by men. But Piper, being the reasonable one,
Speaker 1: is like, listen, this spell is not you know, this
Speaker 1: isn't real love, This isn't true love, Like we should
Speaker 1: probably reverse this spell. And then I call and I
Speaker 1: ask my sisters for help to look through the Book
Speaker 1: of Shadows.
Speaker 5: Now she needs help.
Speaker 1: Uh, well, she needs the books help. And she says
Speaker 1: that she falls asleep the dream storre serwer will kill her,
Speaker 1: which is you know, I don't And then like, so
Speaker 1: why do you get in your car and try to
Speaker 1: drive home? Why aren't you like anyway.
Speaker 2: Drinking coffee immediately right right.
Speaker 1: Like instead she's in our car like nodding off, and
Speaker 1: you're like, what are you doing, Like, come on, Prue,
Speaker 1: don't be so you know stupid. But the great thing
Speaker 1: is is that she does not die from crashing her
Speaker 1: car into like a poll and it brings her sisters in,
Speaker 1: who give her you know again that sort of connectivity
Speaker 1: drew that you were talking about before, of like they're
Speaker 1: always stronger together.
Speaker 3: I thought this was and this is a testament to
Speaker 3: Connie's genius because you can tell that definitely was the
Speaker 3: episode was meddled by But this to be now in
Speaker 3: this accident and now in a coma where you're forced
Speaker 3: to sleep, is a really really smart kind of thing
Speaker 3: that we have to overcome, Like this is an obstacle
Speaker 3: like that we love as an audience, like, oh shit,
Speaker 3: she can't wake up like before, like Okay, maybe you're
Speaker 3: blasting the ac, you're taking coffee, but now you've been
Speaker 3: in a car accident, you are in a coma, Like
Speaker 3: the stakes couldn't be higher in this moment. I thought
Speaker 3: that was really well played, like from a story point standpoint.
Speaker 3: So then we have the girls there whispering to you
Speaker 3: because a lot of times you hear that people in
Speaker 3: comas can still here people there in the room and
Speaker 3: they you know, we've heard countless stories of this, But
Speaker 3: I think that was a really smart story device. And
Speaker 3: I like that, you know, Piper and Phoebe are there
Speaker 3: are now kind of like trying to help guide her
Speaker 3: through this this battle that she's ultimately going to have
Speaker 3: with Whittaker.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and the power within and I guess there's another
Speaker 8: through line as far as the every episodic installment of
Speaker 8: that you are how you can do this, and you're
Speaker 8: getting the support of those who love you. That that
Speaker 8: enlighten you to the fact that no matter what you're facing,
Speaker 8: you can do this. You can navigate, you can you
Speaker 8: can persevere, you can conquer this.
Speaker 1: So I like it, h I mean, had I honestly
Speaker 1: believe that, Like, had the sisters not come to the
Speaker 1: hospital and been in her ear, she you know, it
Speaker 1: would have been a very different result.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 1: It was then their belief that she could do it
Speaker 1: there like love for her, that that gave her the
Speaker 1: strength in her coma to actually fight this guy back,
Speaker 1: and you find the way to her powers through the
Speaker 1: coma to throw him off the building and ultimately kill him.
Speaker 3: And I think this episode does a great job of
Speaker 3: executing the Sisterhood tribes over evil, Like, when you guys
Speaker 3: are really connected this, you can overcome anything. And I
Speaker 3: think dream sorcer, especially that kind of pinnacle moment when
Speaker 3: you have that showdown with him, that yes what I get.
Speaker 8: And dreams of course internal reflection of the of all
Speaker 8: battles that reside within you. And so you're overcoming the
Speaker 8: most horrific things of unimaginable consequence. That is actually your
Speaker 8: own battle that resides within you. And you're being shown
Speaker 8: through your dreams the power of you being able to
Speaker 8: no matter what you're confronted with that internally you have
Speaker 8: the capacity and the abilities to do that.
Speaker 4: So I appreciate that mechanism.
Speaker 5: And then you say you're never going to doubt Andy again.
Speaker 3: You do say that? Did you say that?
Speaker 8: I do say that under my side, you know, and
Speaker 8: of course that that is the thought of the moment.
Speaker 4: But this is all new, man, I mean it.
Speaker 8: I don't want to be a part of this stuff
Speaker 8: that I think deep inside Darryl knows is in existence.
Speaker 8: I think we all know that there are things that
Speaker 8: are beyond our comprehension. And now you're having this as
Speaker 8: a reality that you have to navigate in every day.
Speaker 8: So whatever you stated, then it is going to be
Speaker 8: consistent battle of that as for us is coming to
Speaker 8: terms with that and be confronted with the reality of that.
Speaker 4: Day in and day out.
Speaker 5: Never's a long time, just so.
Speaker 4: I know.
Speaker 5: And then stock Randy shows up with more flowers.
Speaker 1: Go figure exactly, and that's the end of the episode.
Speaker 3: Well, reminding her sisters never forget. The genuine of action
Speaker 3: is better than any sort of affection you can conjure
Speaker 3: with a spell.
Speaker 5: Careful what you wish for.
Speaker 3: That's very true.
Speaker 5: Careful.
Speaker 1: You know, I might take some conjured affection over real
Speaker 1: affection nowadays in my life. But sure that's just me,
Speaker 1: just life experience. Yeah, you know what I really liked
Speaker 1: about it. I really liked my dress that I was
Speaker 1: in when I threw him over the end of the building.
Speaker 1: I really liked it. I liked my hair, I liked
Speaker 1: my dress.
Speaker 3: Okay, I like that.
Speaker 5: You were having a good old time this episode. I
Speaker 5: remember that stage built inside where you threw him off,
Speaker 5: and all the smoke hole of hell of smoke.
Speaker 1: It would But it was, like, I don't know, it
Speaker 1: was there was something very sexy about this episode. Even
Speaker 1: though he was trying to kill me. There was still
Speaker 1: something oddly sexy, like the way it was lit that
Speaker 1: outfits the whole thing, Like it was just a yeah
Speaker 1: it was. I I liked filming this episode.
Speaker 2: Maybe it was dream sort sort of voice.
Speaker 5: Well.
Speaker 3: I thought Matt actually did a great job too, Like
Speaker 3: you know, a good villain kind of has a lot
Speaker 3: of fun doing it. Yeah, that's that's what we love
Speaker 3: about some of our villains. It's like, oh, they're they're
Speaker 3: taking He took a lot of joy in it, and
Speaker 3: I thought from an acting standpoint, he did great, Like
Speaker 3: it was a really fun kind of he made some
Speaker 3: really fun choices and.
Speaker 1: Like he had some charming moments.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, absolutely.
Speaker 8: I enjoyed the cold the cold open and what you
Speaker 8: were talking about him kind of having fun with that
Speaker 8: that last scene that they had where he just kind
Speaker 8: of when he pushed it over over the over the
Speaker 8: ledge and kind of did this how and did this
Speaker 8: moment that they captured and then cut cut the commercial,
Speaker 8: so again drew the fun of that he was having
Speaker 8: with that character.
Speaker 4: Was kind of cool.
Speaker 1: Okay, So overall we liked it.
Speaker 5: Me not so much.
Speaker 3: But it's it's not the best, but it's not the worst.
Speaker 4: I found some things that I enjoyed. I don't know
Speaker 4: if I'm muna say yeah, I found some things that
Speaker 4: I enjoyed.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, audience, we would like you to, you know,
Speaker 1: weigh in on this, like did you hate the episode?
Speaker 1: Did you like it?
Speaker 5: Shannon enjoyed it quite a bit.
Speaker 1: I mean, there are other episodes I liked better. That
Speaker 1: we all did. But I think for the beginning of
Speaker 1: this show still trying to find its legs and then
Speaker 1: like finding its legs with like a you know, dead
Speaker 1: Man episode, But then again we don't, you know, everything
Speaker 1: shot out a sequence. But we can't keep referring to
Speaker 1: that because it's how the audience views it, not like
Speaker 1: what are what we think it should have been or
Speaker 1: how it should have been. It's like how they view
Speaker 1: it and how we, you know, end up playing those
Speaker 1: characters where it's all believable. At the end of the day,
Speaker 1: I think that it wasn't as bad as it could
Speaker 1: have been.
Speaker 5: Does that make sense?
Speaker 8: It does, And again Drew's made a comment about this,
Speaker 8: it was ninety eight I believe this episode correct and
Speaker 8: the time that we were in a also some other
Speaker 8: stuff that, you know, like the restrictions that were imposed
Speaker 8: as far or what you had to navigate that early
Speaker 8: on in all the resources and figuring out all those
Speaker 8: moving parts to do something of this nature. We started
Speaker 8: talking about stunts and special effects and blah blah blah blah.
Speaker 8: So considering again fifth episode, first season, it was good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, maybe it's because I never watched the
Speaker 1: show so now I watch it, I don't know there's
Speaker 1: an appreciation for it. I'm not in my critical stage
Speaker 1: of the show. I'm in that like first awareness of
Speaker 1: it where I'm like, oh, wow, you know what for
Speaker 1: what it was us in that day and age, It's
Speaker 1: really good. It's really entertaining, and and it's very creative.
Speaker 1: Like who comes up with a dream sorcerer who can
Speaker 1: kill women by throwing them off buildings in a dream?
Speaker 1: Like to me that like, well that's actually creative. Like yeah,
Speaker 1: so yeah, I'm I'm in an appreciative phase. Maybe if
Speaker 1: I have to watch it three times that might change.
Speaker 3: Well just wait till next week's wedding from how and
Speaker 3: you will see.
Speaker 1: I'm not listening. I'm going in with very fresh eyes
Speaker 1: fresh yes.
Speaker 4: Just.
Speaker 5: One.
Speaker 3: Remember this moment.
Speaker 8: I enjoy where all this kind of stuff stems from
Speaker 8: from Greek mythology. When we start talking about why am
Speaker 8: I forgetting the guy from Morpheus and and this and
Speaker 8: the sons of Sleep and and and his his his
Speaker 8: brothers and his sisters and his his when we we
Speaker 8: start theinking about there's the woman, all the hypno hypno
Speaker 8: I believe is Greek, and all these gods and the
Speaker 8: rulers of dreams and what dreams are about. And I
Speaker 8: kind of enjoyed that connectedness as far as probably where
Speaker 8: all this stuff.
Speaker 4: Was sourced from.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Duran, you just keep digging real deep his homework, right,
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, what he said? That sounds really good?
Speaker 1: Can you just can you just write everything for me
Speaker 1: for now on? I'll just repeat it.
Speaker 4: I could not do better than you, girl. I love
Speaker 4: you and I enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: You're just way too smart and funny.
Speaker 4: Thank you.
Speaker 5: Thanks for hanging out with us.
Speaker 4: D Absolutely yeah, yeah, we love you.
Speaker 1: We can't wait to have you back on.
Speaker 8: Me too, if you guys get a chance. I don't
Speaker 8: know if you are aware of this. Have you seen
Speaker 8: the Obi Wan Kenobi series?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 8: Do you see that you're not a fan Star Wars
Speaker 8: any of that stuff. Well, take a look and punching
Speaker 8: doing Gregory and Darth Vader, and I'd love for you, guys,
Speaker 8: I love for you to let me know what you think.
Speaker 5: Mm hmmm yeah. And I'm telling you you should have
Speaker 5: done the synopsis.
Speaker 4: I should have.
Speaker 3: Hey, why don't we give them a short time to
Speaker 3: do it right now? But we can come full circle
Speaker 3: and where we begin.
Speaker 2: It's cut and paste.
Speaker 4: No, we'll wait, we'll wait, come.
Speaker 5: On, take a shat, no pressure.
Speaker 8: All you got to do is just Google search it,
Speaker 8: and you'll you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll understand Darth Vader and
Speaker 8: that's it.
Speaker 1: I'm definitely going to Google search it, and then you're
Speaker 1: you're gonna come right back on here and do whatever
Speaker 1: they're asking you to do.
Speaker 4: That. Boy, was that a lot.
Speaker 3: I would love to well, thanks again, d for being here.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
Speaker 5: I'll see you soon.
Speaker 4: I love you too. I'll talk to you guys later.
Speaker 1: I have a great day, you too.
Speaker 3: God he's such a sweet man, so smart. Thanks guys
Speaker 3: for checking this week out. We'll see you next week.
Speaker 3: House of halliwell
Speaker 4: Mhm