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Speaker 1: Welcome into Real America's Voice. This is Sunday the Road Forward.

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Speaker 1: Stay with us as we discuss the intersection of faith,

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Speaker 1: Tim Clinton. I'll be your host. Our special guest joined

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Speaker 1: This week. President Trump will give this State of the

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Speaker 1: Union address. Always some sparks and should I say surprise us. Hey,

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Speaker 1: how about spectacles.

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Speaker 1: AOC and team who knows what's going to happen. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure the President's going to bring the heat too, with

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Speaker 1: a lot of takeaways as we look at celebrating America

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Speaker 1: two fifty and we move on toward the midterms this fall.

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Speaker 1: Some huge issues to be sure on the docket. Voter

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Speaker 1: election fraud, ice and deportation of those bad guys, terrorists,

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Speaker 1: criminals that are roaming our streets, Hey, the economy, the

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Speaker 1: Middle East, Israel, Iran, and more. Thank God that ultimately

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Speaker 1: can look to God for wisdom and guidance in our

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Speaker 1: everyday lives. In times like these, our hope, our strength

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Speaker 1: comes from the Lord. Here's a great verse to hold

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Speaker 1: onto this week, Colossians four to six. Let your conversation

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Speaker 1: be always full of grace, seasoned with salts, so that

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Speaker 1: you may know how to answer everyone. I'm gonna pray.

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Speaker 1: those who are in authority. In Jesus' name. Amen, Let's

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Speaker 1: Joyce Now is David Brody, journalist, author, reporter host of

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Speaker 1: chief Political lambas for the Christian Broadcasting Network. David, welcome back, Thank.

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Speaker 3: You for joining me. Thanks dam I'm glad to be here.

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Speaker 2: David, gonna be a wild week.

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Speaker 1: President Trump got the State of the Union Address coming up,

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Speaker 1: some pretty big issues. I can only imagine what kind

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Speaker 1: of a spectacle it's going to be inside that chamber

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Speaker 1: on that night. But I'm sure the President's going to

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Speaker 1: rise to the occasion and set a few messages.

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Speaker 3: No doubt about it.

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Speaker 5: It's always a spectacle with President Trump either way. But

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Speaker 5: now you've got a confluence of a lot of different

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Speaker 5: things going on, so for sure, it's going to be

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Speaker 5: interesting inside the chamber. Look, here's the way I see

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Speaker 5: the State of the Union. It's a reset. And what

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Speaker 5: I mean by a reset not because the president policies

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Speaker 5: aren't working, but he has to reset it from a

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Speaker 5: pr standpoint in front of the American people.

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Speaker 3: And I think that's going to be crucial. And you know,

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Speaker 3: we always.

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Speaker 5: Talk about all of the issues that he's going to

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Speaker 5: bring up, and yes, he's going to bring up you know,

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Speaker 5: thirty forty different issues. But the one main issue we

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Speaker 5: all know, let's say it together, right, the economy. It's

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Speaker 5: the economy stupid, as James Carvo would say. I'm not

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Speaker 5: calling you stupid, Tim, I just want to be very clear.

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Speaker 5: But look, this White House understands that they can talk

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Speaker 5: about PDF documents all they want. They can talk about

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Speaker 5: all of the great numbers that they're seeing, and there

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Speaker 5: have been a lot of great numbers. But until people

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Speaker 5: actually feel it. They're feeling at the gas bump, for sure,

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Speaker 5: but until they feel like going down that grocery aisle,

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Speaker 1: Turn interestingly enough to David, I can't wait to see

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Speaker 1: what's gonna happen in the chamber. Meaning, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: if they're dressing in white, they're gonna grandstand, jump up

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Speaker 1: Radical Dems are pretty pretty pretty.

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Speaker 2: Insane, David.

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Speaker 1: I mean it, I just it's hard to believe that

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, where are we gone right in this

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Speaker 3: You know there's going to be a theme. My guess

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Speaker 3: is it'll have something to do with ice. I can

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Speaker 5: Cubes already on everybody's shirt. There's going to be something

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Speaker 5: along those lines, Tim for sure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, midterm elections, David, we all know that that's coming,

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Speaker 1: and it's on the hearts and minds of everybody across

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Speaker 1: the country because it's a throwdown, it's a play for control,

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Speaker 1: being able to accomplish the agenda, and so much more.

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Speaker 1: David's reflections, your thoughts there, Typically presidents don't do well

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Speaker 2: What are you expecting.

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Speaker 5: I'm sensing that it's going to be that scenario again.

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Speaker 3: But there's a caveat. I'll get to the caveat in

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Speaker 5: But look, I think ultimately, if you just look at

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Speaker 5: forget the economy and the whole situation just sort of

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Speaker 5: a moment, and just look at the actual races that

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Speaker 5: are going on. There are obviously quite a few toss ups,

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Speaker 5: but when it comes to toss ups on the Republican side,

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Speaker 5: there are more toss up races that Republicans own right

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Speaker 5: now on their side compared to Democrats. So fourteen toss

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Speaker 5: So Republicans have more work to do to win those

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Speaker 5: time challenge. Obviously, here's the economy is the issue. Here's

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Speaker 5: the caveat everybody's talking about.

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Speaker 3: Oh boy, the economy.

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Speaker 5: If it doesn't turn around, well, there's a key word there,

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Speaker 5: if it doesn't turn around. Let's talk tim We can

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Speaker 5: definitely talk before this time, but let's talk July of

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Speaker 5: into Q three, quarter three of this administration. Because at

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Speaker 5: that point, that big beautiful bill that we've heard so

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Speaker 5: much about, some of those energy policy that we've already

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Speaker 5: seen some fruition in there. I think you start to

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Speaker 5: And if that happens, then all bets are off. Maybe

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Speaker 5: they do keep the house. But right now, if I'm

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Speaker 2: This some work to do, David.

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Speaker 1: One, for sure, faith everybody knows that faith is back

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Speaker 1: in America and something's happening. Bible sales are going crazy.

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Speaker 1: Younger generations are showing up at church in the midst

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Speaker 1: of it. David, the president has why embrace the faith community,

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Speaker 1: evangelicals in particular, they've had a pretty strong voice. Will

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Speaker 1: they play in this mid term election? Will they play

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Speaker 1: a key role? I know that he declared May seventeenth

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Speaker 1: where he's going to bring faith leaders into Washington and more.

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Speaker 1: We see now the America Praise movement is starting to happen.

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Speaker 1: I saw where this week they're talking about America reads

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Speaker 1: the Bible. They're gonna get a lot of celebrities coming

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Speaker 1: back and faith again. Here it is front and center.

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Speaker 1: Do you think the faith community will rise to the occasion.

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Speaker 1: You know, the church has often been silent. There are

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Speaker 1: some pastors who are becoming much more vocal. This is

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Speaker 1: look at what's going on in Virginia right now. David, Seriously,

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Speaker 1: the play was a moderate play and then extremism to

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Speaker 1: It's unfolding right before our eyes. It's happening from gun

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Speaker 1: rights to abortion to so much more. Your take on

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm glad you brought up Virginia because that's the

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Speaker 5: I'm going to be fully frank with you. I'm fully

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Speaker 5: frank with you for the whole interview, not just this portion, Tim,

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Speaker 5: But well, do I think folks of faith, especially within

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Speaker 5: convinced of it. I think that a lot of this

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Speaker 5: is tied to President Trump, quite frankly. In other words,

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Speaker 5: faith community first. The problem is he's not on the

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Speaker 5: ballot now. Susie Wiles and others want to put him

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Speaker 3: That's not going to get the job done in the

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Speaker 5: President Trump type of election where he wasn't the ballot, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: David, want to get your take on the transgender ideology

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Speaker 1: issue to Yeah, Governor of Kentucky came out some crazy

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Speaker 1: position trying to defend his posturing on transgender rights, you know,

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Speaker 1: from the Bible, and it was like, where do you

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Speaker 2: And David, I.

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Speaker 1: Mean, seriously, this is caught the attention of everybody. It's

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Speaker 5: What do you think, Well, it's a growing problem, clearly

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Speaker 5: with all of these shootings. The liberal media now with

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Speaker 5: then they'll say a person with two different names. Is

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Speaker 5: what they're saying. Now, that's their new catchphrase to basically

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Speaker 5: not label someone that's transgender, that did the shooting a transgender.

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Speaker 5: They'll say two different names. Look, here's the thing, and

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Speaker 5: I think this is going to get down to the

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Speaker 5: crux of it. And you would know better than anybody

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Speaker 5: regarding mental illness. But it is a mental illness. And

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Speaker 5: here's the thing, tim When we say the words mental illness,

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Speaker 5: everybody thinks, wow, that just horrible person.

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Speaker 3: They have no compassion for. No, no, no, no.

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Speaker 5: The words mental illness is meant with compassion for that

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Speaker 1: You've got quite a history. You've spent a lot of

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Speaker 1: of the Providence Forum providenceform dot org. Jerry, welcome back,

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Speaker 1: Thank you for joining me.

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Speaker 8: Thank you Tim. Good to be with you.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Jerry's we got started. Big year.

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Speaker 1: America celebrates two point fifty. President Trump. He's got a

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Speaker 1: lot of plans. I had a lot of energy. But Jerry,

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Speaker 1: you spent a lot of time just reflecting on the

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Speaker 1: history of American culture, our roots, and there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of narrative there. You guys have been part of a

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Speaker 1: couple of documentaries and more. But take us back, give

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Speaker 1: us some reflections, Jerry, out of your heart and all

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Speaker 8: Sure well, thank you for the opportunity. The two hundred

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Speaker 8: and fiftieth anniversary is specifically in reference to when fifty

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Speaker 8: six men in Philadelphia on July fourth, seventeen seventy six

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Speaker 8: by voice vote approved the final wording of the Declaration

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Speaker 8: of Independence, that, of course, is our nation's birth certificate.

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Speaker 8: It was followed up eleven years later by the Constitution.

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Speaker 8: The two documents together, one explains how I'm sorry, why

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Speaker 8: the Christian faith played a key role in both of

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Speaker 8: these things. For example, in the Declaration of Independence, we

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Speaker 8: see references to God four times, and especially that God

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Speaker 8: is the source of our rights, and when God gives

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Speaker 8: us our rights, they're non negotiable. And then the other document,

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Speaker 8: the Constitution, which was signed in the year of our Lord,

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Speaker 8: as in Jesus Christ, that is infused with the biblical

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Speaker 8: teaching that man is basically sinful, therefore power must be separated.

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Speaker 8: And they're very careful. If you read the Constitution, you

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Speaker 8: see all throughout the separation of powers because of not

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Speaker 8: James Madison, a key architect of the Constitution, put it, so,

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Speaker 8: we have a lot to be grateful for a stable

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Speaker 8: government through all the different problems we've faced in two

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Speaker 8: hundred and fifty years. Including a civil war, a Great Depression,

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Speaker 8: and now the ongoing attempt to basically tear it all

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Speaker 8: down to create some sort of Marxist utopia. But despite

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Speaker 8: all that, we continue along as the United States of America,

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Speaker 8: one nation under God.

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Speaker 1: Jerry, when you go back and reflect, what a perfect obviously,

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Speaker 1: but it's pretty impressive how they were able to think

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Speaker 2: How do you think we're.

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Speaker 1: Lining up on what they really cried out to God

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Speaker 1: for and what they set their hands to, and where

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Speaker 8: Well, let me start with this. George Washington said, of

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Speaker 8: all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity,

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Speaker 8: religion and morality are indispensable supports. The second President, John

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Speaker 8: Adams said, our Constitution was made only for a moral

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Speaker 8: and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government

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Speaker 8: of any other. The founders expected the people, we the people,

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Speaker 8: to be moral, you know, basically as the Bible defines it.

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Speaker 8: And the way that we would be moral is by

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Speaker 8: abiding in faith. Now this was done on a voluntary basis.

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Speaker 8: There's no mandated religion in America, which I think is

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Speaker 8: part of the brilliance of the Founding Fathers. But there's

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Speaker 8: absolutely the encouragement for the free exercise of religion. I

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Speaker 8: think what's happened in the last half century or so,

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Speaker 8: we have just gotten away from God as us as

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Speaker 8: we can, and people don't realize, you know, we're cutting

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Speaker 8: ourselves off from the very root that produced all the

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Speaker 8: great fruit in the first space, this fruit of freedom

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Speaker 8: of life and liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

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Speaker 1: When you look back to Jerry, you think of bold

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Speaker 1: courageous leadership and what it must have taken, especially in

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Speaker 1: those hours, up against incredible opposition and odds, if you will,

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Speaker 1: it was like, this is a fight to the end.

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Speaker 1: We've got to stand strong. We've got a champion exactly

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Speaker 1: what we want to hold tenaciously too, Jerry. That kind

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Speaker 1: of leadership. I think people were crying out for bold,

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Speaker 1: courageous leadership over the last few years because we were

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Speaker 1: going through a pretty tough time. Religious liberties were quote

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Speaker 1: being violated at every level. It was insane what was

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Speaker 1: happening and coming at us. The open border mess, the

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Speaker 1: economy was in shambles. Transgender ideology was being railroaded, and

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Speaker 1: so much more. Reflect on that jury and just talk

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Speaker 1: to us about the need for leadership, strong leadership, courageous leadership,

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Speaker 8: Sure, and also looking to God in that leadership. So

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Speaker 8: during the times of crisis, for example, during the American

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Speaker 8: War for Independence, fifteen times at least the Congress set

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Speaker 8: aside days for fasting and prayer and even Thanksgiving in

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Speaker 8: some cases to call out to God. And you're right

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Speaker 8: about that. We look at the calamities of the last

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Speaker 8: few years and we see we are, you know, as

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Speaker 8: a nation. It seemed like we were headed in this direction,

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Speaker 8: just trying to get away from God, trying to cut

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Speaker 8: ourselves off from the Judeo Christian heritage which has made

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Speaker 8: us what we are in the first place. But it's

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Speaker 8: kind of like, think of it this way, Tim, Think

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Speaker 8: there's all kinds of pock marks against that, the columns

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Speaker 8: yet the nation still stands. The founding principles of America

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Speaker 8: are still in place, and that's what's so great. And frankly,

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Speaker 8: in the courts. This is kind of almost ironic, or

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Speaker 8: it almost seems like it's under the radar. But you

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Speaker 8: take the example of First Liberty Institute Kelly Shackelford and

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Speaker 8: the Alliance Defending Freedom founded by d James Kennedy and

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Speaker 8: James Epson and a handful of others realizing, hey, we

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Speaker 8: got to fight for religious liberty in America, a nation

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Speaker 8: that was founded for religious freedom. But there have been

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Speaker 8: many victories, and honestly, President Trump has been a part

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Speaker 8: of that because President Trump appointed or nominated three Supreme

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Speaker 8: Court justices, and he stuck to his guns even when

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Speaker 8: like every square inch has to be fought over. But

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Speaker 8: the bottom line is the founders gave us religious freedom.

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Speaker 8: I mean they said in the First Amendment, the very

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Speaker 8: first liberty they mentioned, Congress will make no law respecting

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Speaker 8: an establishment of religion, nor prohibiting the free exercise.

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Speaker 1: Thereof Jerry, at the end of the day, we can't

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Speaker 1: forget our roots. You got to go back and understand.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, this great experiment was founded largely

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Speaker 1: anchored in the Christian faith giving people the freedoms to

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Speaker 1: pursue all this And Jerry, I guess that's how I

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Speaker 1: want to close this piece out as we move into

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Speaker 1: to rededicate America. We have movements like America Praise and

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Speaker 1: America's Reading the Bible movement. All this stuff is happening.

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Speaker 1: We know, going to do a big deal on the

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Speaker 1: National Day of Prayer in May. But Jerry close us

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Speaker 1: out with understand how to anchor yourself in our faith.

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Speaker 1: That's what made America great and if we can keep

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Speaker 1: our roots right there, hopefully it'll impact generations, meaning our

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Speaker 8: Closing thought absolutely and that Providenceforum dot org. We have

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Speaker 8: all sorts of researchers, research just showing these things, resources

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Speaker 8: I think of this Patrick Henry, one of the great

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Speaker 8: founding fathers the Order of the American Revolution. He's the

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Speaker 8: one who said, give me liberty, give me death. He

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Speaker 8: said that in March twenty three, seventeen seventy five, And

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Speaker 8: But he said, give me liberty or give me death.

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Speaker 8: But Patrick Henry reminded us it is one of people

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Speaker 8: forget God that tyrant forge their chains. Wow. So if

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Speaker 8: I sound like a broken record, I am a broken

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Speaker 8: record because it's our God given liberties that are the

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Speaker 8: key to understanding everything. And the essence of the American

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Speaker 8: But if we ever forget that, we'll be one nation gone.

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Speaker 1: Under Doctor Jerry Newcomb always be great to have you,

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Speaker 8: Thank you.

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Speaker 4: part of your.

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Speaker 1: Life Johnny snow is Gary Bauer. Bauer served in President

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Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan's administration for eight years as Under Secretary of

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Speaker 1: Education and Chief Domestic Policy Advisor. Today, he serves as

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Speaker 1: president of American Values, an educational nonprofit organization right there

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Speaker 1: in Washington, DC. He's also senior vice president of public

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Speaker 1: Policy for the Doctor James Dobson Family Institute.

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Speaker 2: Gary, welcome back. Thank you for joining me.

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Speaker 9: It's my pleasure.

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Speaker 3: Tim.

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Speaker 9: Always great to be with you.

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Speaker 2: Gary. Big week, President Donald J. Trump.

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Speaker 1: The State of the Union Address is coming down. I

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Speaker 1: know there was some pushback, Hey, are you going to

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Speaker 1: do it because the partial government shut down stub. You know,

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Speaker 1: Trump asque of course we're coming, Gary. I have a

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Speaker 1: feel and he's going to come guns blazing. He's got

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Speaker 1: probably a big agenda, some results he wants to share,

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Speaker 1: and obviously there's some tension going down that we need

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Speaker 1: to address in this country. Gary, just some reflections on

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Speaker 1: where we've been, where you think we're at. What do

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Speaker 1: you think the President's going to say? What's the tone?

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Speaker 9: Well, you know, the President will go in there, probably

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Speaker 9: a little bit frustrated that we haven't been able to

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Speaker 9: get more through Congress than we have. And I know

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Speaker 9: all the reasons. We all know the reasons why. Very

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Speaker 9: small majority in the House and a better majority in

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Speaker 9: the Senate, but not big enough to break filibusters unfortunately,

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Speaker 9: so he's a little frustrated. I think we can count

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Speaker 9: on the Democrats in the chamber being sadly. I'll use

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Speaker 9: the word idiots again.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm sure there's going to be some commotion

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Speaker 1: going on. They'll they'll they'll do some grand standing and

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Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. AOC and company.

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Speaker 9: Absolutely, But you know, and you're right him, Donald Trump.

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Speaker 9: He'll lay out his agenda and he'll make a great

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Speaker 9: case for it, and I'll love to see all of that.

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Speaker 9: But I also hope that he uses the occasion because

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Speaker 9: this is the State of the Union address in the

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Speaker 9: two hundred and fiftieth anniversary or birthday of the founding

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Speaker 9: of the United States, and I hope he has some

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Speaker 9: he reminds the Democrats and Republicans in that room that

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Speaker 9: this is an experiment, one of the greatest experiments in

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Speaker 9: the history of the world of ordered liberty under God.

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Speaker 9: We have differences, but we ought to unite in love

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Speaker 9: of our country and have a pride in all the

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Speaker 9: things that it has accomplished since seventeen seventy six.

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Speaker 1: Gary, Interestingly enough, faith is back, and I think you

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Speaker 1: and I agree, faith is going to have a central

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Speaker 1: role in the mid terms and much more in terms

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Speaker 1: of the future of the country. But when you think

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Speaker 1: about May seventeenth, this announcement on the rededication of America,

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Speaker 1: and then I think about America, praise that movement that's happening.

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Speaker 1: America reads the Bible is a special movement that's starting

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Speaker 1: to happen. Gary's encouraging. At the same time, we know

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Speaker 1: that religious liberty is what this was all about. You

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Speaker 1: go back to two hundred and fifty years that was

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Speaker 1: the founding principle that they laid everything down for Gary,

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Speaker 1: you have lived your whole life.

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Speaker 2: In this lane.

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Speaker 1: You're a champion of this And just how do you

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Speaker 1: feel as we go into July fourth this year, in

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Speaker 1: issue of faith and what are you praying earnestly to

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Speaker 1: God for well?

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Speaker 9: My socral prayer, Tim and I think a lot of

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Speaker 9: us would say the same is that the country would

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Speaker 9: turn their hearts back to the God of the Bible,

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Speaker 9: the God of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and Jesus. That's the

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Speaker 9: god that our founding documents refer to. That's the god

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Speaker 9: in the second paragraph of the Decoration of Independence referred

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Speaker 9: to as our creator, who endows us with certain rights

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Speaker 9: that that can't be taken away, nor can we legitimately

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Speaker 9: surrender them without actually killing ourselves if we did that.

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Speaker 9: So that's the central idea of our country. If we

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Speaker 9: lose that, there may still be a place called America,

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Speaker 9: but it won't be the America that our founders sacrifice

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Speaker 9: and risks so much to give us the things you

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Speaker 9: just mentioned. Tim May seventeenth event and so forth. A

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Speaker 9: lot of the left wing media, some of the leading Democrats, Oh,

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Speaker 9: this is terrible. This is Christian nationalism. No, it is,

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Speaker 9: And this is exactly what the founders did as they

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Speaker 9: were going through those difficult years of beating the world's

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Speaker 9: agreement on principles about what kind of country it was.

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Speaker 3: Going to be.

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Speaker 9: And they knew America couldn't be great unless it was

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Speaker 9: godly and everything that they did was aiming to have

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Speaker 9: this country and its people recognize that our liberty comes

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Speaker 9: from God.

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Speaker 1: Gary, I want to close this way. State of Virginia. Man,

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Speaker 1: oh man, the thing is spinning south so fast. Here

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Speaker 1: was the strategy, talk moderate, act insane if you will, Gary,

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Speaker 1: that's exactly what's happening. They have control of everything. Now

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Speaker 1: we're talking everything from gun rights to birthday abortion. They're

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Speaker 1: railroading everything and they're not playing. They're flat out coming

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Speaker 1: with guns blazing.

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Speaker 2: Gary.

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Speaker 1: It's a portrait again of what the insanity is of

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Speaker 1: the left, extreme messaging. And Gary, if we don't have

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Speaker 1: that wake up call, we too can be like, you know,

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Speaker 1: sitting in frogs in that kettle of warm water, just hey,

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Speaker 1: hanging out, having a great America two fifty year you

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Speaker 1: know that, not taking things seriously. Here come the midterms,

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Speaker 1: and the next thing, you know, we're in a total,

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Speaker 1: flat out spin. Give us some reflections on how we

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Speaker 1: should approach the year, especially as we begin to move

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Speaker 1: toward the midterms, and in your mind, how critical this

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Speaker 9: Yes, you know, Virginia as bad as it is for

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Speaker 9: those of us that live in Virginia, and the future

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Speaker 9: doesn't look very bright right now. It is a warning sign.

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Speaker 9: It's an omen It was right there in front of

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Speaker 9: our face. You know, the media told us, Tim that

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Speaker 9: all these folks running on the Democrat Party ticket were moderates.

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Speaker 9: These were not like New York neo Marxist Democrats. These

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Speaker 9: were good old Virginia Democrats. And on the first day,

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Speaker 9: they're pushing abortion all nine months of the pregnancy. They're

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Speaker 9: pushing same sex marriage. They're redistricting the state so if

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Speaker 9: they get their way, there will only be one congressional

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Speaker 9: district in Virginia that a Republican will be able to win,

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Speaker 9: a conservative pro life person would be able to win

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Speaker 9: in the future. This is what they intend to do

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Speaker 9: if they get the House back, the Senate back. They've

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Speaker 9: said it in interviews that they're going to come after

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Speaker 9: the church. They're going to come after people like you,

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Speaker 9: Tim and me. We cannot ignore this. Anybody that stays

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Speaker 9: home on this upcoming election day in November of this year,

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Speaker 9: I almost say it's a sin. You are failing your

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Speaker 9: responsibility as a citizen and a free nation and a

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Speaker 9: follower of Jesus to do what you must do to

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Speaker 9: preserve liberty, to preserve this nation as one nation under God.

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Speaker 9: Otherwise your children and grandchildren are going to suffer in

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Speaker 9: ways that are unimaginable.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: For those people out there thinking I fear mongering, No,

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Speaker 1: just take a look at what's happening.

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Speaker 2: It's going down. It really is. God be with us,

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Speaker 2: Gary Bauer always great. What have you? Thank you for

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Speaker 2: joining me Great to be with you.

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Speaker 3: Tim.

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Speaker 4: For more encouragement and to stay connected, follow doctor Tim

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Speaker 1: Hey, and closing, I know these are unprecedented times, difficult times,

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Speaker 1: but I believe God's in control and I know he's

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Speaker 1: at work. I hope you're pressing close to Him and

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Speaker 1: his heart. Know that God loves you and that he

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Speaker 1: wants to be in your life. Our hope, our strength

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Speaker 1: comes from the Lord. Here's an encouraging verse to hold

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Speaker 1: on too, from the Bible this week, Colossians chapter four,

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Speaker 1: verse six. Let your conversation be always full of grace,

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Speaker 1: season with salt, so that you may know how to

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Speaker 1: answer everyone. What a verse for such a time as this, Hey,

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Speaker 1: I hope you know also that you can look to

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Speaker 1: God for wisdom and direction in your everyday life. But

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Speaker 1: let me say I've learned as a professional counselor that

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Speaker 1: It's easy to lose perspective. Some people feel like they

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Speaker 1: from your heart to God's heart something like this, you

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Speaker 1: can pray it after me. Lord Jesus, I need you.

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Speaker 1: I'm a sinner. I believe that you died for my sins.

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Speaker 3: God.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for loving me, for giving your son for me.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for the gift of grace and forgiveness, the

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Speaker 1: in Jesus's name.

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Speaker 3: Amen.

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Speaker 1: I believe you prayed that prayer, that God hurt it,

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Speaker 1: and you are now a Christian. That's what the Bible says.

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Speaker 1: John three sixteen says for God's to love the world,

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Speaker 1: that he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever believes

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Speaker 1: in him would not perish but have everlasting life, and

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Speaker 1: Romans ten to nine in the Bible says this, if

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Speaker 1: in your heart that God raised him from the dead

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Speaker 1: will be saved. Best thing you can do right now

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Speaker 1: is go tell someone about the decision you just made

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Speaker 1: and live your life for.

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Speaker 2: God for the rest of your life.

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Speaker 2: I'm doctor Tim Clinton. As always, thanks for watching.

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Speaker 1: To see you next week right here on Sunday, the

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