WEBVTT - Debate Night In Review

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a special Debate Verdict with Ted Cruz and

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<v Speaker 2>Ben ferguson podcast. We get to do these on big

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<v Speaker 2>nights jointly like this. Depending on where you're listening to

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<v Speaker 2>us right now, you get us both. Senator, your initial reaction,

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<v Speaker 2>you watched the debate. I watched the debate. What were

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<v Speaker 2>your big takeaways?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, tonight was a big and consequential debate, but I

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<v Speaker 3>have to say it before we get into it, and

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<v Speaker 3>then this entire podcast we're going to analyze the debate

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<v Speaker 3>in depth and say what it showed about about where

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<v Speaker 3>the race is, where President Trump is, where Kamala Harris is.

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<v Speaker 3>But I do want to point out it is exactly

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<v Speaker 3>midnight as you and I are recording, which means that

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<v Speaker 3>it has just become September eleventh, and for our listeners

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<v Speaker 3>who are downloading this, you'll be downloading this today during

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<v Speaker 3>September eleventh. And so I just want to start by

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<v Speaker 3>acknowledging that twenty three years ago, the worst terrorist attack

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<v Speaker 3>in our nation's history happened, and you and I both

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<v Speaker 3>lived through nine to eleven. We had friends who lost

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<v Speaker 3>their lives in nine to eleven. We saw the agony

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<v Speaker 3>and We have talked on this podcast many times about

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<v Speaker 3>my view that today we have a greater risk of

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<v Speaker 3>a major terrorist attack than we have had any time

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<v Speaker 3>since September eleventh, two thousand and one, because of the

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<v Speaker 3>disastrous policies of the last four years. And so I

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<v Speaker 3>want to acknowledge that at the front end, and then

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to walk through right now what the biggest

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<v Speaker 3>takeaways are from the debate tonight Center.

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<v Speaker 2>This was a obviously important debate for Kamala Harris. It

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<v Speaker 2>was really a rollout in a sense where she could

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<v Speaker 2>be challenged. What we quickly saw though, was a three

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<v Speaker 2>on one debate against Donald Trump and ABC News.

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<v Speaker 1>What an end kind donation they gave.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the ABC moderators did not do a good job

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<v Speaker 3>that They clearly were biased towards Kamala Harris. We saw

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<v Speaker 3>that from their live quote fact checking, where repeatedly they'd

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<v Speaker 3>follow up what Trump said by contradicting him, by disputing him.

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<v Speaker 3>Many instances, their fact checks were wrong and they never

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<v Speaker 3>never could be bothered a fact check a word that

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<v Speaker 3>came out of Kamala Harris's mouth. It was very one

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<v Speaker 3>sided on that front. But look, ABC News was the

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<v Speaker 3>least consequential part of tonight. What tonight illustrated is that

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<v Speaker 3>Kamala Harris is utterly incapable of defending her own record.

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<v Speaker 3>And what we saw tonight, this was her stump speech,

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<v Speaker 3>and this was her DNC convention speech, cut into sound

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<v Speaker 3>bites and repeated. She memorized a series of vignettes, a

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<v Speaker 3>series of little segments, and just repeated those talking points

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<v Speaker 3>ad nauseum. And it really became clear with the very

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<v Speaker 3>first question of the night, and the first question of

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<v Speaker 3>the night that David Muir asked her, is the question

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<v Speaker 3>that you and I and Monday's podcast said is the

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<v Speaker 3>single most important question of the debate and really of

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<v Speaker 3>every election, which is are you better off than you

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<v Speaker 3>were four years ago? And to Mere's credit, he started

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<v Speaker 3>with that question, are people off today than they were

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<v Speaker 3>four years ago? Under Trump? Now? Interestingly enough, Kamala refused

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<v Speaker 3>to answer it at all. She didn't say yes, she

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<v Speaker 3>didn't say people's lives are better, she said nothing at all. Instead,

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<v Speaker 3>she had a little memorized set peace about how I

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<v Speaker 3>was raised in a middle class family. I was raised

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<v Speaker 3>with a mom who loved me and struggled. And she

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<v Speaker 3>just talked about her bio and gave just just empty

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<v Speaker 3>platitudes that continued for the entire night. And so look,

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<v Speaker 3>we saw this evening. Why it is that Kamala's campaign

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<v Speaker 3>team keeps her hidden in Joe Biden's base. Why they

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<v Speaker 3>just bring her out, have a read from a teleprompter,

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<v Speaker 3>and then they tackle her and throw back in the basement.

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<v Speaker 3>Because all right, let's take the very simple question. She

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<v Speaker 3>didn't say, yes, you're better off than you were four

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<v Speaker 3>years ago. Why, well, you really can't, Like it's impossible

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<v Speaker 3>to defend on every front. Inflation. All let's just take

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<v Speaker 3>inflation in the economy. Her policies and Joe Biden's policies

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<v Speaker 3>have been disastrous America. The working people of America have

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<v Speaker 3>seen the price of just about everything go up, from

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<v Speaker 3>food to electricity, to rent, to lumber, to healthcare, to gasoline,

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<v Speaker 3>to mortgages, everything go up. And critically, this is where

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<v Speaker 3>her record matters. Kamala Harris was the tie breaking vote

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<v Speaker 3>multiple times on the floor of the Senate on trillions

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<v Speaker 3>of dollars of the out of control spending from this

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<v Speaker 3>administration that has caused this inflation. She was literally without

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<v Speaker 3>her vote, the trillions of dollars that we borrowed, and

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<v Speaker 3>the trillions of dollars that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris

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<v Speaker 3>ran the printing presses on that drove this inflation that

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't happen, and she can't defend that. She doesn't have

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<v Speaker 3>a good answer. When it comes to energy and gas prices.

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<v Speaker 3>People are hurting because of gas price as well. It

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<v Speaker 3>is her policies and Joe Biden's policies that has waged

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<v Speaker 3>war systematically on oil and gas production and American energy,

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<v Speaker 3>and she can't defend that either, and so instead she

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<v Speaker 3>simply says, well, we're going to lower energy prices, We're

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<v Speaker 3>going to lower gas prices, and with no acknowledgment that

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<v Speaker 3>Wait a second, she is, in fact the sitting vice president,

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<v Speaker 3>and who knows where the heck the actual president is

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<v Speaker 3>besides passed out asleep on a beach.

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<v Speaker 2>When you see, I think the strategy, and now it

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<v Speaker 2>actually I think makes more sense, right, like just hider,

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<v Speaker 2>buy ads, get the media to cover for you and

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<v Speaker 2>protect you at all costs. And maybe that is a

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<v Speaker 2>winning strategy, which comes to the obviously, the next big question,

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<v Speaker 2>should there be another debate?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you believe there will be? In the other debate.

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<v Speaker 2>They were obviously in the Harris camp implying that there

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<v Speaker 2>was a big victory tonight, saying that was fun, let's

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<v Speaker 2>do it again, and threw out another date. Uh, signaling

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<v Speaker 2>from her campaign they want to tee it up again

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<v Speaker 2>and go toe to toe with Donald Trump again.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that the right move for her?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, listen, I think Trump should absolutely accept that offer

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<v Speaker 3>for another debate. He should jump on it and say

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<v Speaker 3>let's go. I think the debate is a valuable opportunity

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<v Speaker 3>to calmly litigate her actual record. And and let me

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<v Speaker 3>say this though, even if Trump does does follow that

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<v Speaker 3>advice and does accept the debate, I think there's very

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<v Speaker 3>little chance it happens. I think Kamala's team will back

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<v Speaker 3>out on it. I think they're mostly just puffing out

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<v Speaker 3>their chest and boasting right now with the offer of

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<v Speaker 3>another debate, I think there is no world in which

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<v Speaker 3>they let her do a second debate. I think it's

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<v Speaker 3>back to the basement. And if I were to predict,

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<v Speaker 3>we're not going to see Kamala emerge from the basement

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<v Speaker 3>until election day. It's like the groundhog until she sees

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<v Speaker 3>her shadow on election day. She doesn't get to come

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<v Speaker 3>out of the basement, other than to show up at

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<v Speaker 3>a rally here and there and read from the teleprompter

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<v Speaker 3>the same speech. But they want to keep her absolutely

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<v Speaker 3>controlled and repeating. And listen, I will say, the Democrat

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<v Speaker 3>Party has very good message masters. They have very good

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<v Speaker 3>This is the party of Hollywood. This is the party

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<v Speaker 3>of storytellers. Her memorized set pieces, some of them are

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<v Speaker 3>pretty effective. They're disconnected from reality. They don't acknowledge any

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<v Speaker 3>facts on earth. But if you just listen to them,

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<v Speaker 3>they are calmly reassuring, they sound nice. And it's why. Look,

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<v Speaker 3>this is the same reaction I had with her convention speech.

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<v Speaker 3>It's dangerous as hell, because if you're not paying close attention,

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<v Speaker 3>what she says sounds nice unless she is forced to

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<v Speaker 3>confront her actual own record. And in the entire debate,

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<v Speaker 3>the ABC moderators never once pointed out that her record

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<v Speaker 3>is exactly the opposite of what she said on the

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<v Speaker 3>debate stage over and over again.

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<v Speaker 2>So when I watched the debate, the question I always

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<v Speaker 2>ask myself is okay, if I was going in a

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<v Speaker 2>night voting for Donald Trump, was I convinced by Kamala

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<v Speaker 2>Harris that I should switch my vote, The answer honestly

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<v Speaker 2>is no. And if I'm a Kamala Harris voter and

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<v Speaker 2>was going into the night watching Kamala Harris saying I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to vote for her. Am I going to switch

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<v Speaker 2>my vote to Donald Trump tonight? Honestly? Probably not. Does

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<v Speaker 2>that mean that this is a draw in essence, where Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump's team they walk out of this going Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe we could have done a little better on this

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<v Speaker 2>that or the other. Maybe we'll work on that for

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<v Speaker 2>the next subbate, but we didn't do any harm and

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<v Speaker 2>we got out are some good points. Kama's team probably says, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>we survived the night we had you in hiding in

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<v Speaker 2>the basement. Is this one of those debates that we

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<v Speaker 2>both said was one of the most important ever?

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<v Speaker 1>But could in theory be a draw?

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<v Speaker 2>Because really, you're if the if the barometer is I'm

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<v Speaker 2>trying to change hearts and minds.

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<v Speaker 1>Did anyone's mind change tonight?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Kamala's team and all of our cheerleaders in the

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<v Speaker 3>corporate media are going to relentlessly hype that she won,

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<v Speaker 3>that she won, that she won. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 3>they were going to say that whatever happened she could

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<v Speaker 3>literally fall to the ground and start screaming and wailing

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<v Speaker 3>and kicking her feet in the air, and they would

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<v Speaker 3>say she won, So that that was going to be

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<v Speaker 3>the narrative regardless. I will say, what we learned is

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<v Speaker 3>she doesn't have a good answer to her own record.

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<v Speaker 3>The Trump campaign needs to continue to prosecute the case.

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<v Speaker 3>So let's take, for example, there was a hole back

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<v Speaker 3>and forth on abortion, and Trump said accurately that she

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<v Speaker 3>supports late term abortions into the eighth and ninth months

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<v Speaker 3>of pregnancy, and she just said, over and over again, no,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, I don't that's false, that's false, and

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<v Speaker 3>the moderators sat there like potted plants. Well, it so

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<v Speaker 3>happens that Kamala actually has a record, and in particular,

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<v Speaker 3>she has voted for legislation on the floor of the

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<v Speaker 3>Senate to strike down every single restriction on abortion in

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<v Speaker 3>the country and to legalize abortion in the eighth and

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<v Speaker 3>ninth months up to the moment of birth. That is

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<v Speaker 3>her actual voting record, what she has voted for. There

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<v Speaker 3>was another exchange where Trump points out that the governor

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<v Speaker 3>of Virginia, the former governor of Virginia, Ralph Northam had

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<v Speaker 3>advocated for post birth abortion, and she flat out lied

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<v Speaker 3>and said no, no, he didn't know, he didn't and

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<v Speaker 3>play that.

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<v Speaker 2>Because we have that clip. And this is why I

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<v Speaker 2>love doing the show, is we get to play it.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Northam on the radio on WTP saying what

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<v Speaker 2>she said, and the media said, never happened.

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<v Speaker 4>If a mother is in labor, I can tell you

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<v Speaker 4>exactly what would happen. The infant would be delivered, the

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<v Speaker 4>infant would be kept comfortable, the infant would be resuscitated

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<v Speaker 4>if that's what the mother and the family desired, and

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<v Speaker 4>then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mothers.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, where's the fact check for ABC News on that? Senator?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and understand Ralph Northam, he was a Democrat governor

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<v Speaker 3>of Virginia. He was also someone whose medical school yearbook

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<v Speaker 3>featured a picture of a Klansman. That's another part of

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<v Speaker 3>Ralph Northm's background. But he was also an obgyn, so

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<v Speaker 3>he was actually talking about as a doctor who presumably

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<v Speaker 3>has done that. He was describing the approach, and that

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<v Speaker 3>is delivering a baby. The baby is alive, is breathing,

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<v Speaker 3>is outside the mother's womb and he's talking about just

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<v Speaker 3>letting the baby die. And again, this is where records matter.

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<v Speaker 3>Kamala has a record on this. So when she says

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<v Speaker 3>that's ridiculous, that's no, no, no, no, no, that's not true. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>Kamala Harris voted against the Born Alive Infant Protection Act,

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<v Speaker 3>and that was a bill that we voted on the

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<v Speaker 3>floor of the Senate that said if during the course

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<v Speaker 3>of an attempted abortion, the child is delivered, the child

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<v Speaker 3>is born, and this happens, and the child is alive

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<v Speaker 3>and breathing and outside the womb, that the doctor cannot

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<v Speaker 3>just let the baby die. And she voted no. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>as you noted, ABC did in fact check her on that,

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<v Speaker 3>her voting record is very clear, and this was a

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<v Speaker 3>pattern over and over and over again on energy. So

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<v Speaker 3>her big trick now on energy is she's run away

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<v Speaker 3>from her long held position opposing fracking. Okay, fine, so

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<v Speaker 3>she's like, yeah, I just flip flopped on that. What

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<v Speaker 3>ABC didn't point out is, well, wait a second, your

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<v Speaker 3>repeated statements about banning fracking, that's not the only thing

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<v Speaker 3>you've done on energy. First week in office. You and

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<v Speaker 3>Joe Biden shut down the Keystone pipeline. Joe Biden, when

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<v Speaker 3>he was campaigning for president, promised to shut down drilling

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<v Speaker 3>on shore, on federal lands and offshore. You put in

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<v Speaker 3>over ninety different regulations and executive orders attacking oil and

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<v Speaker 3>gas production in the United States that has had a

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<v Speaker 3>very direct effect driving up cost. Your administration banned new

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<v Speaker 3>permits exporting liquid natural gas. Like her record on energy

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<v Speaker 3>is terrible, and she has no answer to that. And

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<v Speaker 3>by the way, Trump did a good job on this

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<v Speaker 3>point of saying, listen, you banned the Keystone pipeline and

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<v Speaker 3>gave a giant gift of Vladimir Putin by allowing him

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<v Speaker 3>to complete the Nordstream two pipeline, which caused the war

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<v Speaker 3>in Ukraine. And that's something you and I have talked

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<v Speaker 3>about in this podcast a lot. It was my legislation

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<v Speaker 3>in the Senate that sanctioned Nordstream two and shut it down.

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<v Speaker 3>Trump signed my legislation and Putin literally stopped building the

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<v Speaker 3>nord Stream two pipeline the day that Trump signed sanctions

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<v Speaker 3>legislation in the law. Northstream two was a dead hunk

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<v Speaker 3>of metal at the bottom of the ocean until Joe

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<v Speaker 3>Biden and Kamala Harris came into office and they demonstrated

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<v Speaker 3>weakness and and they waived the sanctions on nord Stream

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<v Speaker 3>two and it was a multi billion dollar gift to

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<v Speaker 3>to Russia and it caused the war in Ukraine. None

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<v Speaker 3>of that does she have an answer for.

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<v Speaker 2>We just got in the official number. ABC News fact

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<v Speaker 2>check Donald Trump seven times, not one time the debate.

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<v Speaker 2>Did they fact check Kamala Harris?

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<v Speaker 1>Not once?

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<v Speaker 2>So that's the official caw tally now is seven times

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<v Speaker 2>on Trump. That's three on one, and I do think

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<v Speaker 2>that's going to have a turnoff. I would hope to

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<v Speaker 2>some of those voters, maybe in the middle, the undecideds,

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<v Speaker 2>which very much can be the deciding factor in this election.

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<v Speaker 2>Will that play with undecideds? Do you think did they

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<v Speaker 2>see the bi that you and I saw?

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<v Speaker 3>They saw that some, but I think they also go

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<v Speaker 3>in expecting the media to be biased. So I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think anyone is surprised that ABC is a left wing

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<v Speaker 3>mouthpiece for the Democrats. That's been the case sadly for

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<v Speaker 3>a long time for ABCNBCCBSC and AN, MSNBC, all of

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<v Speaker 3>them have been mouthpieces for the Democrats. So yes, they

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<v Speaker 3>saw it, but again they're not surprised. Look, the critical

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<v Speaker 3>thing that we saw tonight is is she doesn't have

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<v Speaker 3>a good answer on the chaos at our southern border.

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<v Speaker 3>Kamala Harris was the borders are. She is directly responsible

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<v Speaker 3>for the worst level of illegal immigration in our nation's history.

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<v Speaker 3>She is directly responsible for the people who have died.

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<v Speaker 3>Eight hundred and fifty three migrants died last year crossing

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<v Speaker 3>illegalian in this country. She is responsible for the people,

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<v Speaker 3>the women who have been brutally raped. She's responsible for

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<v Speaker 3>the children who have been brutalize. She's responsible for the

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<v Speaker 3>little boys and little girls who've been horribly assaulted by

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<v Speaker 3>human traffickers. She's responsible for the one hundred and ten

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<v Speaker 3>thousand Americans who died last year of drug overdoses. She

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<v Speaker 3>is responsible for the murderers that she and Joe Biden

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<v Speaker 3>had in their custody, Murderers like the illegal alien murder

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<v Speaker 3>of Lake and Riley that she and Joe Biden had

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<v Speaker 3>in custody, and they released murderers like the illegal alien

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<v Speaker 3>murderer of Rachel Morin that illegal alien was in her custody.

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<v Speaker 3>She released them. Murderers like the illegal alien murderers of

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<v Speaker 3>Joscelyn Hungary. Both of them were in her custody and

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<v Speaker 3>she and Joe Biden released them, and so that record.

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<v Speaker 3>She was not forced tonight to answer for any of

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<v Speaker 3>that record and that, but it demonstrated that she does

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<v Speaker 3>not have a good response. And and that's what I

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<v Speaker 3>think the next two months the Trump campaign has to

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<v Speaker 3>prosecute systematically based on the facts. Here is her record,

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<v Speaker 3>Here is what she has done, and it hasn't worked.

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<v Speaker 3>It has failed, and the American people are worse off

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<v Speaker 3>as a result of the failures of her extreme policy.

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<v Speaker 2>You mentioned Donald Trump's got to bring up some more

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<v Speaker 2>of this stuff, and I think you and I've talked

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<v Speaker 2>about this, but let's just remind people since kamaiers took

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<v Speaker 2>off as total prices are up over twenty percent, car

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<v Speaker 2>insurance up fifty four percent, hotels are up say when

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<v Speaker 2>you rent a hotel fifty one point two percent, Gases

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<v Speaker 2>up fifty point fifty percent, fuel oil is up forty

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<v Speaker 2>nine point one, transportation up thirty two point nine, Electricity

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<v Speaker 2>is up thirty one point seven percent.

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<v Speaker 1>Baby food's up over thirty fifty.

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<v Speaker 2>Percent, eating out of up twenty five percent, Airfare up

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<v Speaker 2>twenty three percent, rent up twenty two percent, and groceries

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<v Speaker 2>are up about twenty two percent as well. That's what

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<v Speaker 2>they've got to focus on, every single one of a Sarah,

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<v Speaker 2>It's not all this other and the weed stuff. They

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<v Speaker 2>I really do believe they've got to keep it simple

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<v Speaker 2>for the American voter, especially if you're trying to go

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<v Speaker 2>after undecided.

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<v Speaker 3>Sure. And and that's what we talked about in Monday's pod,

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<v Speaker 3>that that the focus needs to be on harms, harms, harms.

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<v Speaker 3>How are people's lives worth aught worse off because of

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<v Speaker 3>the horrible policies that Kamala Harris is directly responsible for.

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<v Speaker 3>And and that's true. On inflation, she was literally the

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<v Speaker 3>tie breaking vote behind the trillions of spending that that

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<v Speaker 3>unleash this inflation. It's true. On energy, she and Joe Biden.

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<v Speaker 3>It has been their executive orders and their regulations that

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<v Speaker 3>have driven up energy prices. And and and it's true

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<v Speaker 3>on the border, and and and let me play there

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<v Speaker 3>that there was one of the best exchanges with something

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<v Speaker 3>Trump said on the border where he made the point

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<v Speaker 3>that that that that listen, she could secure the border today,

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<v Speaker 3>and and and and and listen, listen to this what

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<v Speaker 3>what what he said to her?

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<v Speaker 5>Right now, I would say we would both leave this

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<v Speaker 5>debate right now. I'd like to see her go down

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<v Speaker 5>to Washington, D C. During this debate because we're wasting

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of time. Go down to because she's been

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<v Speaker 5>so bad, it's so ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>Go down to Washington, D C.

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<v Speaker 5>And let her sign a bill to close up the border,

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<v Speaker 5>because they have the right to do it. They don't

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<v Speaker 5>need bills, they have the right to do it. The

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<v Speaker 5>president of the United States. You'll get them out of bed,

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<v Speaker 5>You'll wake them up at four o'clock in the afternoon.

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<v Speaker 5>You'll say, come on, come on down to the office,

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<v Speaker 5>let's sign a bill.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a great moment in the debate.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, look, that point is very powerful. And understand this

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<v Speaker 3>invasion at our southern border. It is happening right now today.

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<v Speaker 3>There are hundreds, if not thousands of illegal immigrants crossing

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<v Speaker 3>the border right now today today, Joe Biden and Kamala

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<v Speaker 3>Harris are apprehending hundreds, if not thousands of illegal aliens

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<v Speaker 3>and they're going to release them tomorrow. There are criminals

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<v Speaker 3>they're going to release tomorrow sorrow. There are murderers they're

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<v Speaker 3>going to release. Going forward, there are rapists, there are

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<v Speaker 3>child molestors, and they keep on doing it. And the

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<v Speaker 3>point Trump is making and listen, his campaign needs to

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<v Speaker 3>follow this up by explaining, by really explaining. Look, when

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<v Speaker 3>Joe Biden and Kamala Harris came into office, they inherited

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<v Speaker 3>the lowest rate of illegal immigration in forty five years.

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<v Speaker 3>Donald Trump, I worked hand in hand with President Trump

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<v Speaker 3>to secure the border, and we had incredible success. When

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<v Speaker 3>Trump was president, the border was secure, and it was

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<v Speaker 3>unilateral executive actions that caused this crisis. Three decisions that

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<v Speaker 3>Biden Harris did in the very first week. Number one,

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<v Speaker 3>they immediately halted construction of the border wall. Number two,

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<v Speaker 3>they reinstated the disastrous policy of catch and release, and

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<v Speaker 3>number three they pulled out of the incredibly successful Remain

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<v Speaker 3>in Mexico agreement. All three of those they could reverse tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 3>And so the point like, literally, go down to the

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<v Speaker 3>White House right now and do it. That is absolutely right.

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<v Speaker 3>It is also right that if and I pray when

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<v Speaker 3>Trump is re elected that he will reverse all three

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<v Speaker 3>of those decisions on January twentieth of next year, and

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<v Speaker 3>we will see the border crisis end, and it will

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<v Speaker 3>end quickly, and so that point was very effective. Let

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<v Speaker 3>me say, also, Ben, I thought the foreign policy portion

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<v Speaker 3>of the debate was particularly strong for Trump and it

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<v Speaker 3>was very weak for Kamala Harris. At one point, she

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<v Speaker 3>looks over at Trump and says, well, you know, everyone

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<v Speaker 3>knows that he was weak and ineffective on foreign policy.

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<v Speaker 3>And I got to say to me that that was

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<v Speaker 3>a laugh line. And listen, if you look across the globe,

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<v Speaker 3>we had peace and prosperity when Trump was president. We

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<v Speaker 3>had no foreign wars, and in fact, we saw peace

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<v Speaker 3>breaking out in the Middle East. We saw the Abraham

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<v Speaker 3>Accords being signed, we saw Arabs and Israelis coming together.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think it is absolutely the case that if

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<v Speaker 3>Trump were still in the White House today, the war

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<v Speaker 3>in Ukraine would not have happened, in the war in

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<v Speaker 3>Israel would not have happened. That it was Joe Biden

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<v Speaker 3>and Kamala Harris's weakness that caused those wars. And critically,

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<v Speaker 3>and Trump did a good job of this too, laying

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<v Speaker 3>out that that Listen, Kamala Harris has flowed over one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred billion dollars to Iran. Iran provides ninety percent of

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<v Speaker 3>the funding for hamas ninety percent of the funding for Hesbela,

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<v Speaker 3>Kamala Harris, in a very real sense paid for the

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<v Speaker 3>death squads that carried out the atrocities on October seventh,

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<v Speaker 3>and and and Kamala has no answer to that, And

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<v Speaker 3>and tonight showed that powerfully. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I also think, and you go to the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the debate that one of the best parts was actually

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump in his closing argument. And it goes back

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<v Speaker 2>to the campaign strategy I think he needs to have

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<v Speaker 2>moving forward, and that is to make sure he makes

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<v Speaker 2>this about what she has done in comparison to what

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<v Speaker 2>she claims she wants to do while she's in charge.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you're in charge, you're in charge, You're in charge?

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<v Speaker 5>Is it?

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<v Speaker 1>In Trump?

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<v Speaker 5>So she just started by saying she's going to do this,

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<v Speaker 5>She's going to do that, She's going.

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<v Speaker 1>To do all these wonderful things. Why hasn't she done it.

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<v Speaker 5>She's been there for three and a half years. They've

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<v Speaker 5>had three and a half years to fix the border,

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<v Speaker 5>they've had three and a half years to create jobs

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<v Speaker 5>and all the things we talked about.

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<v Speaker 1>Why hasn't she done it? She should leave right now.

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<v Speaker 5>Go down to that beautiful White House, go to the Capitol,

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<v Speaker 5>get everyone together, and do the things you want to do.

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<v Speaker 5>But you haven't done it, and you won't do it

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<v Speaker 5>because you believe in things that the American people don't

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<v Speaker 5>believe in.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a great line, and I wish it would have

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<v Speaker 2>been used even more.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that was the closing was Trump's best, best part

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<v Speaker 3>of the entire debate, and that was exactly the right message.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a message that the Trump campaign should amplify every

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<v Speaker 3>day between now an election day. Listen, you and I

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<v Speaker 3>have talked about how Kamala is trying to engage in

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<v Speaker 3>this divorced from reality campaign where she pretends she's not

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<v Speaker 3>in office, that she's not the incumbent, she disavows all

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<v Speaker 3>responsibility for the mess that is happening, and in fact,

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<v Speaker 3>she's behaving as if Donald Trump is the incumbent president

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<v Speaker 3>and she's the change candidate. She is in office right now,

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<v Speaker 3>Joe Biden is in office right now, and on every

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<v Speaker 3>single level, on inflation, on crime, on illegal immigration, on

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<v Speaker 3>foreign policy, on safety and security, the world was much

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<v Speaker 3>much better when Trump was president than it is today,

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<v Speaker 3>and that needs to be emphasized every day between now

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<v Speaker 3>an election Day.

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<v Speaker 1>Center her final question.

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<v Speaker 2>I think for you and really for me when I

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<v Speaker 2>was watching this tonight and it say, okay, where do

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<v Speaker 2>we go from here? I'm in favor of another debate.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you cover that earlier, right, you agree Trump

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<v Speaker 2>should do another one Number one.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, but I don't think she will. I think you will.

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<v Speaker 1>So your prediction is she's done yep. Number two.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're Donald Trump, what do you learn for tonight

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<v Speaker 2>and what do you take into your big campaign rallies

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<v Speaker 2>from this? And what is your messaging to your surrogatece

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<v Speaker 2>tomorrow on the surrogate call.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the message is she cannot defend her record,

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<v Speaker 3>and her record is a failure. The American people are

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<v Speaker 3>worse off. But listen, I think it's important to remember also,

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<v Speaker 3>this is not about Donald Trump, and it's not about

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<v Speaker 3>Kamala Harris. It is about the American people. It is

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<v Speaker 3>about It is about young, young couples who are going

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<v Speaker 3>out and buying their first home and they're discovering that

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<v Speaker 3>a seven and a half percent mortgage rate is much

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<v Speaker 3>much worse than a two and a half percent mortgage

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<v Speaker 3>rate that you get about half the house. That's happening

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<v Speaker 3>right now nowaday people are hurting. It's about a single

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<v Speaker 3>mom who's trying to make ends meet and she can't

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<v Speaker 3>afford to buy groceries anymore because the prices have gone

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<v Speaker 3>so high, and when she tries to fill up her

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<v Speaker 3>tank to go to work, it just about breaks her.

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<v Speaker 3>It's about the people who are suffering. Look today, on

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<v Speaker 3>September tenth, there was a ceremony in the Capitol where

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<v Speaker 3>the Congressional Gold Medal was awarded to the thirteen servicemen

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<v Speaker 3>and women who were murdered in Afghanistan from the absolutely

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<v Speaker 3>disastrous and incompetent withdrawal from Abbigate. And I'll tell you,

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<v Speaker 3>the families were there, and it was a beautiful ceremony,

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<v Speaker 3>and the families. I spoke to many of the families.

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<v Speaker 3>I thanked every one of them that I could to

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<v Speaker 3>say thank you for your service and sacrifice. I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>But I also to many of them. Had a follow

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<v Speaker 3>up conversation where I said, there needs to be accountability.

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<v Speaker 3>There has been zero accountability. That the focus for the

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<v Speaker 3>campaign every day from now to election day needs to

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<v Speaker 3>be the difference between Trump's record and Kamala's record and

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<v Speaker 3>critically bringing it home to the voters, how their lives

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<v Speaker 3>were much better when Trump was president than they have

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<v Speaker 3>been under Kamala, and that her policies are failures and

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<v Speaker 3>they're hurting the American people. That's got to be the

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<v Speaker 3>central message.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, as you mentioned a second ago, on this anniversary

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<v Speaker 2>of nine to eleven, I think it's important that we

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<v Speaker 2>also take a step back, remember how important it is

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<v Speaker 2>that you have competent leaders that understand how important it

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<v Speaker 2>is to protect and defend the home, lan, to protect

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<v Speaker 2>and defend freedom. And also just a moment to say

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<v Speaker 2>thank you to all of those that serve this country,

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<v Speaker 2>to all of those that wear the uniform, to all

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<v Speaker 2>those that have given the ultimate sacrifices and their families.

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<v Speaker 2>There were so many people that died on nine to eleven,

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<v Speaker 2>but there was also the second part, and that was

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<v Speaker 2>so many that died because they wanted to protect and

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<v Speaker 2>defend us after nine to eleven that gave the ultimate sacrifice.

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<v Speaker 2>And I said to everybody listening, say thank you to

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<v Speaker 2>a veteran. Text them. Everybody knows a veteran, tell them

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<v Speaker 2>thank you. I had the privilege of playing golf today

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<v Speaker 2>with some of those that actually took out some of

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<v Speaker 2>the worst terrorists in the world, some special operators, and

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<v Speaker 2>they were amazing guys, and I say to them, thank you,

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<v Speaker 2>because without you giving up years of your life and

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<v Speaker 2>risking your life and losing your brothers in uniform, we

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't have the freedoms we have today.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what we need to remember. I think during

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<v Speaker 1>this election season as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't forget. We do the show Monday, Wednesday, Friday on Verdict.

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<v Speaker 2>I do my show Ben Ferguson podcasts every single day.

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<v Speaker 2>So grab our podcast at that subscriber auto download button

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<v Speaker 1>It's always fun.

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<v Speaker 2>We get to do a joint podcast the Senator and

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<v Speaker 2>I will see you back here in a couple of days,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'll see you back here tomorrow on the Ben

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<v Speaker 2>Ferguson podcasts as well. And again, God bless America and

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<v Speaker 2>thanks to all of our veterans that are listening to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys are the heroes.