1 00:00:01,240 --> 00:00:01,720 Speaker 1: Welcome. 2 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 2: It is a special Debate Verdict with Ted Cruz and 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:08,399 Speaker 2: Ben ferguson podcast. We get to do these on big 4 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 2: nights jointly like this. Depending on where you're listening to 5 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 2: us right now, you get us both. Senator, your initial reaction, 6 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 2: you watched the debate. I watched the debate. What were 7 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 2: your big takeaways? 8 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:23,159 Speaker 3: Well, tonight was a big and consequential debate, but I 9 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 3: have to say it before we get into it, and 10 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 3: then this entire podcast we're going to analyze the debate 11 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 3: in depth and say what it showed about about where 12 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:36,279 Speaker 3: the race is, where President Trump is, where Kamala Harris is. 13 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 3: But I do want to point out it is exactly 14 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 3: midnight as you and I are recording, which means that 15 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 3: it has just become September eleventh, and for our listeners 16 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 3: who are downloading this, you'll be downloading this today during 17 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 3: September eleventh. And so I just want to start by 18 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 3: acknowledging that twenty three years ago, the worst terrorist attack 19 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 3: in our nation's history happened, and you and I both 20 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 3: lived through nine to eleven. We had friends who lost 21 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 3: their lives in nine to eleven. We saw the agony 22 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 3: and We have talked on this podcast many times about 23 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 3: my view that today we have a greater risk of 24 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 3: a major terrorist attack than we have had any time 25 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 3: since September eleventh, two thousand and one, because of the 26 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 3: disastrous policies of the last four years. And so I 27 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 3: want to acknowledge that at the front end, and then 28 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 3: we're going to walk through right now what the biggest 29 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 3: takeaways are from the debate tonight Center. 30 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 2: This was a obviously important debate for Kamala Harris. It 31 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 2: was really a rollout in a sense where she could 32 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:51,559 Speaker 2: be challenged. What we quickly saw though, was a three 33 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 2: on one debate against Donald Trump and ABC News. 34 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: What an end kind donation they gave. 35 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, the ABC moderators did not do a good job 36 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 3: that They clearly were biased towards Kamala Harris. We saw 37 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 3: that from their live quote fact checking, where repeatedly they'd 38 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 3: follow up what Trump said by contradicting him, by disputing him. 39 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 3: Many instances, their fact checks were wrong and they never 40 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 3: never could be bothered a fact check a word that 41 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 3: came out of Kamala Harris's mouth. It was very one 42 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 3: sided on that front. But look, ABC News was the 43 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 3: least consequential part of tonight. What tonight illustrated is that 44 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 3: Kamala Harris is utterly incapable of defending her own record. 45 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 3: And what we saw tonight, this was her stump speech, 46 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 3: and this was her DNC convention speech, cut into sound 47 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 3: bites and repeated. She memorized a series of vignettes, a 48 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 3: series of little segments, and just repeated those talking points 49 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 3: ad nauseum. And it really became clear with the very 50 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 3: first question of the night, and the first question of 51 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 3: the night that David Muir asked her, is the question 52 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 3: that you and I and Monday's podcast said is the 53 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 3: single most important question of the debate and really of 54 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 3: every election, which is are you better off than you 55 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 3: were four years ago? And to Mere's credit, he started 56 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 3: with that question, are people off today than they were 57 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 3: four years ago? Under Trump? Now? Interestingly enough, Kamala refused 58 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 3: to answer it at all. She didn't say yes, she 59 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 3: didn't say people's lives are better, she said nothing at all. Instead, 60 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 3: she had a little memorized set peace about how I 61 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 3: was raised in a middle class family. I was raised 62 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 3: with a mom who loved me and struggled. And she 63 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 3: just talked about her bio and gave just just empty 64 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 3: platitudes that continued for the entire night. And so look, 65 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 3: we saw this evening. Why it is that Kamala's campaign 66 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 3: team keeps her hidden in Joe Biden's base. Why they 67 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 3: just bring her out, have a read from a teleprompter, 68 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 3: and then they tackle her and throw back in the basement. 69 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 3: Because all right, let's take the very simple question. She 70 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 3: didn't say, yes, you're better off than you were four 71 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 3: years ago. Why, well, you really can't, Like it's impossible 72 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 3: to defend on every front. Inflation. All let's just take 73 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 3: inflation in the economy. Her policies and Joe Biden's policies 74 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 3: have been disastrous America. The working people of America have 75 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 3: seen the price of just about everything go up, from 76 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 3: food to electricity, to rent, to lumber, to healthcare, to gasoline, 77 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 3: to mortgages, everything go up. And critically, this is where 78 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 3: her record matters. Kamala Harris was the tie breaking vote 79 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 3: multiple times on the floor of the Senate on trillions 80 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 3: of dollars of the out of control spending from this 81 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:59,280 Speaker 3: administration that has caused this inflation. She was literally without 82 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 3: her vote, the trillions of dollars that we borrowed, and 83 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 3: the trillions of dollars that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris 84 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 3: ran the printing presses on that drove this inflation that 85 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 3: doesn't happen, and she can't defend that. She doesn't have 86 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 3: a good answer. When it comes to energy and gas prices. 87 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 3: People are hurting because of gas price as well. It 88 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 3: is her policies and Joe Biden's policies that has waged 89 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:27,920 Speaker 3: war systematically on oil and gas production and American energy, 90 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 3: and she can't defend that either, and so instead she 91 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 3: simply says, well, we're going to lower energy prices, We're 92 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 3: going to lower gas prices, and with no acknowledgment that 93 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 3: Wait a second, she is, in fact the sitting vice president, 94 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 3: and who knows where the heck the actual president is 95 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 3: besides passed out asleep on a beach. 96 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 2: When you see, I think the strategy, and now it 97 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 2: actually I think makes more sense, right, like just hider, 98 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 2: buy ads, get the media to cover for you and 99 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 2: protect you at all costs. And maybe that is a 100 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 2: winning strategy, which comes to the obviously, the next big question, 101 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 2: should there be another debate? 102 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 1: Do you believe there will be? In the other debate. 103 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 2: They were obviously in the Harris camp implying that there 104 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 2: was a big victory tonight, saying that was fun, let's 105 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 2: do it again, and threw out another date. Uh, signaling 106 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 2: from her campaign they want to tee it up again 107 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 2: and go toe to toe with Donald Trump again. 108 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: Is that the right move for her? 109 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 3: Well, listen, I think Trump should absolutely accept that offer 110 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 3: for another debate. He should jump on it and say 111 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:38,599 Speaker 3: let's go. I think the debate is a valuable opportunity 112 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 3: to calmly litigate her actual record. And and let me 113 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 3: say this though, even if Trump does does follow that 114 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 3: advice and does accept the debate, I think there's very 115 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 3: little chance it happens. I think Kamala's team will back 116 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 3: out on it. I think they're mostly just puffing out 117 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 3: their chest and boasting right now with the offer of 118 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,679 Speaker 3: another debate, I think there is no world in which 119 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 3: they let her do a second debate. I think it's 120 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 3: back to the basement. And if I were to predict, 121 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 3: we're not going to see Kamala emerge from the basement 122 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 3: until election day. It's like the groundhog until she sees 123 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 3: her shadow on election day. She doesn't get to come 124 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 3: out of the basement, other than to show up at 125 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 3: a rally here and there and read from the teleprompter 126 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 3: the same speech. But they want to keep her absolutely 127 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 3: controlled and repeating. And listen, I will say, the Democrat 128 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 3: Party has very good message masters. They have very good 129 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 3: This is the party of Hollywood. This is the party 130 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 3: of storytellers. Her memorized set pieces, some of them are 131 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 3: pretty effective. They're disconnected from reality. They don't acknowledge any 132 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 3: facts on earth. But if you just listen to them, 133 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 3: they are calmly reassuring, they sound nice. And it's why. Look, 134 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 3: this is the same reaction I had with her convention speech. 135 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 3: It's dangerous as hell, because if you're not paying close attention, 136 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 3: what she says sounds nice unless she is forced to 137 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 3: confront her actual own record. And in the entire debate, 138 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 3: the ABC moderators never once pointed out that her record 139 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 3: is exactly the opposite of what she said on the 140 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 3: debate stage over and over again. 141 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 2: So when I watched the debate, the question I always 142 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 2: ask myself is okay, if I was going in a 143 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 2: night voting for Donald Trump, was I convinced by Kamala 144 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 2: Harris that I should switch my vote, The answer honestly 145 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 2: is no. And if I'm a Kamala Harris voter and 146 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 2: was going into the night watching Kamala Harris saying I'm 147 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 2: going to vote for her. Am I going to switch 148 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 2: my vote to Donald Trump tonight? Honestly? Probably not. Does 149 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:47,760 Speaker 2: that mean that this is a draw in essence, where Hey, 150 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 2: Donald Trump's team they walk out of this going Okay, 151 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 2: maybe we could have done a little better on this 152 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 2: that or the other. Maybe we'll work on that for 153 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:56,760 Speaker 2: the next subbate, but we didn't do any harm and 154 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 2: we got out are some good points. Kama's team probably says, hey, 155 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 2: we survived the night we had you in hiding in 156 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 2: the basement. Is this one of those debates that we 157 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 2: both said was one of the most important ever? 158 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 1: But could in theory be a draw? 159 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 2: Because really, you're if the if the barometer is I'm 160 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 2: trying to change hearts and minds. 161 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: Did anyone's mind change tonight? 162 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 3: Well, Kamala's team and all of our cheerleaders in the 163 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 3: corporate media are going to relentlessly hype that she won, 164 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 3: that she won, that she won. And by the way, 165 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 3: they were going to say that whatever happened she could 166 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 3: literally fall to the ground and start screaming and wailing 167 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 3: and kicking her feet in the air, and they would 168 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 3: say she won, So that that was going to be 169 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 3: the narrative regardless. I will say, what we learned is 170 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 3: she doesn't have a good answer to her own record. 171 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 3: The Trump campaign needs to continue to prosecute the case. 172 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 3: So let's take, for example, there was a hole back 173 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 3: and forth on abortion, and Trump said accurately that she 174 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 3: supports late term abortions into the eighth and ninth months 175 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 3: of pregnancy, and she just said, over and over again, no, 176 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:02,559 Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't that's false, that's false, and 177 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 3: the moderators sat there like potted plants. Well, it so 178 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 3: happens that Kamala actually has a record, and in particular, 179 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 3: she has voted for legislation on the floor of the 180 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 3: Senate to strike down every single restriction on abortion in 181 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 3: the country and to legalize abortion in the eighth and 182 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 3: ninth months up to the moment of birth. That is 183 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:28,719 Speaker 3: her actual voting record, what she has voted for. There 184 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 3: was another exchange where Trump points out that the governor 185 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 3: of Virginia, the former governor of Virginia, Ralph Northam had 186 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 3: advocated for post birth abortion, and she flat out lied 187 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 3: and said no, no, he didn't know, he didn't and 188 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:43,719 Speaker 3: play that. 189 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 2: Because we have that clip. And this is why I 190 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 2: love doing the show, is we get to play it. 191 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 2: This is Northam on the radio on WTP saying what 192 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 2: she said, and the media said, never happened. 193 00:10:57,960 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 4: If a mother is in labor, I can tell you 194 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 4: exactly what would happen. The infant would be delivered, the 195 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 4: infant would be kept comfortable, the infant would be resuscitated 196 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 4: if that's what the mother and the family desired, and 197 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 4: then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mothers. 198 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: I mean, where's the fact check for ABC News on that? Senator? 199 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:24,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, and understand Ralph Northam, he was a Democrat governor 200 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 3: of Virginia. He was also someone whose medical school yearbook 201 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,719 Speaker 3: featured a picture of a Klansman. That's another part of 202 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 3: Ralph Northm's background. But he was also an obgyn, so 203 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,839 Speaker 3: he was actually talking about as a doctor who presumably 204 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 3: has done that. He was describing the approach, and that 205 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,559 Speaker 3: is delivering a baby. The baby is alive, is breathing, 206 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 3: is outside the mother's womb and he's talking about just 207 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 3: letting the baby die. And again, this is where records matter. 208 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 3: Kamala has a record on this. So when she says 209 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 3: that's ridiculous, that's no, no, no, no, no, that's not true. Well, 210 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 3: Kamala Harris voted against the Born Alive Infant Protection Act, 211 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 3: and that was a bill that we voted on the 212 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 3: floor of the Senate that said if during the course 213 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,679 Speaker 3: of an attempted abortion, the child is delivered, the child 214 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 3: is born, and this happens, and the child is alive 215 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 3: and breathing and outside the womb, that the doctor cannot 216 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 3: just let the baby die. And she voted no. Now, 217 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 3: as you noted, ABC did in fact check her on that, 218 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 3: her voting record is very clear, and this was a 219 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 3: pattern over and over and over again on energy. So 220 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 3: her big trick now on energy is she's run away 221 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:46,079 Speaker 3: from her long held position opposing fracking. Okay, fine, so 222 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 3: she's like, yeah, I just flip flopped on that. What 223 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 3: ABC didn't point out is, well, wait a second, your 224 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 3: repeated statements about banning fracking, that's not the only thing 225 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 3: you've done on energy. First week in office. You and 226 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 3: Joe Biden shut down the Keystone pipeline. Joe Biden, when 227 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 3: he was campaigning for president, promised to shut down drilling 228 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 3: on shore, on federal lands and offshore. You put in 229 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 3: over ninety different regulations and executive orders attacking oil and 230 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 3: gas production in the United States that has had a 231 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 3: very direct effect driving up cost. Your administration banned new 232 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 3: permits exporting liquid natural gas. Like her record on energy 233 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 3: is terrible, and she has no answer to that. And 234 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 3: by the way, Trump did a good job on this 235 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:36,679 Speaker 3: point of saying, listen, you banned the Keystone pipeline and 236 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 3: gave a giant gift of Vladimir Putin by allowing him 237 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 3: to complete the Nordstream two pipeline, which caused the war 238 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 3: in Ukraine. And that's something you and I have talked 239 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 3: about in this podcast a lot. It was my legislation 240 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 3: in the Senate that sanctioned Nordstream two and shut it down. 241 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 3: Trump signed my legislation and Putin literally stopped building the 242 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 3: nord Stream two pipeline the day that Trump signed sanctions 243 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 3: legislation in the law. Northstream two was a dead hunk 244 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:06,839 Speaker 3: of metal at the bottom of the ocean until Joe 245 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 3: Biden and Kamala Harris came into office and they demonstrated 246 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:14,199 Speaker 3: weakness and and they waived the sanctions on nord Stream 247 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 3: two and it was a multi billion dollar gift to 248 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 3: to Russia and it caused the war in Ukraine. None 249 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 3: of that does she have an answer for. 250 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 2: We just got in the official number. ABC News fact 251 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 2: check Donald Trump seven times, not one time the debate. 252 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 2: Did they fact check Kamala Harris? 253 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: Not once? 254 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 2: So that's the official caw tally now is seven times 255 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 2: on Trump. That's three on one, and I do think 256 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 2: that's going to have a turnoff. I would hope to 257 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 2: some of those voters, maybe in the middle, the undecideds, 258 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 2: which very much can be the deciding factor in this election. 259 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 2: Will that play with undecideds? Do you think did they 260 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 2: see the bi that you and I saw? 261 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 3: They saw that some, but I think they also go 262 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 3: in expecting the media to be biased. So I don't 263 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 3: think anyone is surprised that ABC is a left wing 264 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,240 Speaker 3: mouthpiece for the Democrats. That's been the case sadly for 265 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 3: a long time for ABCNBCCBSC and AN, MSNBC, all of 266 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 3: them have been mouthpieces for the Democrats. So yes, they 267 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 3: saw it, but again they're not surprised. Look, the critical 268 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 3: thing that we saw tonight is is she doesn't have 269 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 3: a good answer on the chaos at our southern border. 270 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 3: Kamala Harris was the borders are. She is directly responsible 271 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 3: for the worst level of illegal immigration in our nation's history. 272 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 3: She is directly responsible for the people who have died. 273 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 3: Eight hundred and fifty three migrants died last year crossing 274 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 3: illegalian in this country. She is responsible for the people, 275 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 3: the women who have been brutally raped. She's responsible for 276 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 3: the children who have been brutalize. She's responsible for the 277 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 3: little boys and little girls who've been horribly assaulted by 278 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 3: human traffickers. She's responsible for the one hundred and ten 279 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 3: thousand Americans who died last year of drug overdoses. She 280 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 3: is responsible for the murderers that she and Joe Biden 281 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 3: had in their custody, Murderers like the illegal alien murder 282 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 3: of Lake and Riley that she and Joe Biden had 283 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 3: in custody, and they released murderers like the illegal alien 284 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 3: murderer of Rachel Morin that illegal alien was in her custody. 285 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 3: She released them. Murderers like the illegal alien murderers of 286 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 3: Joscelyn Hungary. Both of them were in her custody and 287 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 3: she and Joe Biden released them, and so that record. 288 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 3: She was not forced tonight to answer for any of 289 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 3: that record and that, but it demonstrated that she does 290 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 3: not have a good response. And and that's what I 291 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 3: think the next two months the Trump campaign has to 292 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 3: prosecute systematically based on the facts. Here is her record, 293 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 3: Here is what she has done, and it hasn't worked. 294 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 3: It has failed, and the American people are worse off 295 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 3: as a result of the failures of her extreme policy. 296 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 2: You mentioned Donald Trump's got to bring up some more 297 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 2: of this stuff, and I think you and I've talked 298 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 2: about this, but let's just remind people since kamaiers took 299 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 2: off as total prices are up over twenty percent, car 300 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:31,119 Speaker 2: insurance up fifty four percent, hotels are up say when 301 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 2: you rent a hotel fifty one point two percent, Gases 302 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 2: up fifty point fifty percent, fuel oil is up forty 303 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 2: nine point one, transportation up thirty two point nine, Electricity 304 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 2: is up thirty one point seven percent. 305 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 1: Baby food's up over thirty fifty. 306 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 2: Percent, eating out of up twenty five percent, Airfare up 307 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 2: twenty three percent, rent up twenty two percent, and groceries 308 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 2: are up about twenty two percent as well. That's what 309 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 2: they've got to focus on, every single one of a Sarah, 310 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 2: It's not all this other and the weed stuff. They 311 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 2: I really do believe they've got to keep it simple 312 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 2: for the American voter, especially if you're trying to go 313 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 2: after undecided. 314 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:14,120 Speaker 3: Sure. And and that's what we talked about in Monday's pod, 315 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 3: that that the focus needs to be on harms, harms, harms. 316 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:22,879 Speaker 3: How are people's lives worth aught worse off because of 317 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 3: the horrible policies that Kamala Harris is directly responsible for. 318 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 3: And and that's true. On inflation, she was literally the 319 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 3: tie breaking vote behind the trillions of spending that that 320 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 3: unleash this inflation. It's true. On energy, she and Joe Biden. 321 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:42,439 Speaker 3: It has been their executive orders and their regulations that 322 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 3: have driven up energy prices. And and and it's true 323 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 3: on the border, and and and let me play there 324 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 3: that there was one of the best exchanges with something 325 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:52,640 Speaker 3: Trump said on the border where he made the point 326 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 3: that that that that listen, she could secure the border today, 327 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,040 Speaker 3: and and and and and listen, listen to this what 328 00:18:59,040 --> 00:18:59,800 Speaker 3: what what he said to her? 329 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 5: Right now, I would say we would both leave this 330 00:19:02,720 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 5: debate right now. I'd like to see her go down 331 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 5: to Washington, D C. During this debate because we're wasting 332 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 5: a lot of time. Go down to because she's been 333 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 5: so bad, it's so ridiculous. 334 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 1: Go down to Washington, D C. 335 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 5: And let her sign a bill to close up the border, 336 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 5: because they have the right to do it. They don't 337 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 5: need bills, they have the right to do it. The 338 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 5: president of the United States. You'll get them out of bed, 339 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 5: You'll wake them up at four o'clock in the afternoon. 340 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,160 Speaker 5: You'll say, come on, come on down to the office, 341 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:29,880 Speaker 5: let's sign a bill. 342 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 1: It was a great moment in the debate. 343 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, look, that point is very powerful. And understand this 344 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:41,959 Speaker 3: invasion at our southern border. It is happening right now today. 345 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:47,280 Speaker 3: There are hundreds, if not thousands of illegal immigrants crossing 346 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 3: the border right now today today, Joe Biden and Kamala 347 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 3: Harris are apprehending hundreds, if not thousands of illegal aliens 348 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 3: and they're going to release them tomorrow. There are criminals 349 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 3: they're going to release tomorrow sorrow. There are murderers they're 350 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 3: going to release. Going forward, there are rapists, there are 351 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 3: child molestors, and they keep on doing it. And the 352 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 3: point Trump is making and listen, his campaign needs to 353 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 3: follow this up by explaining, by really explaining. Look, when 354 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 3: Joe Biden and Kamala Harris came into office, they inherited 355 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 3: the lowest rate of illegal immigration in forty five years. 356 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 3: Donald Trump, I worked hand in hand with President Trump 357 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 3: to secure the border, and we had incredible success. When 358 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 3: Trump was president, the border was secure, and it was 359 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 3: unilateral executive actions that caused this crisis. Three decisions that 360 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 3: Biden Harris did in the very first week. Number one, 361 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:47,240 Speaker 3: they immediately halted construction of the border wall. Number two, 362 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 3: they reinstated the disastrous policy of catch and release, and 363 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 3: number three they pulled out of the incredibly successful Remain 364 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:59,199 Speaker 3: in Mexico agreement. All three of those they could reverse tomorrow. 365 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 3: And so the point like, literally, go down to the 366 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 3: White House right now and do it. That is absolutely right. 367 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:09,120 Speaker 3: It is also right that if and I pray when 368 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 3: Trump is re elected that he will reverse all three 369 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 3: of those decisions on January twentieth of next year, and 370 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 3: we will see the border crisis end, and it will 371 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 3: end quickly, and so that point was very effective. Let 372 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 3: me say, also, Ben, I thought the foreign policy portion 373 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 3: of the debate was particularly strong for Trump and it 374 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 3: was very weak for Kamala Harris. At one point, she 375 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 3: looks over at Trump and says, well, you know, everyone 376 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 3: knows that he was weak and ineffective on foreign policy. 377 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 3: And I got to say to me that that was 378 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 3: a laugh line. And listen, if you look across the globe, 379 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,879 Speaker 3: we had peace and prosperity when Trump was president. We 380 00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 3: had no foreign wars, and in fact, we saw peace 381 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 3: breaking out in the Middle East. We saw the Abraham 382 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 3: Accords being signed, we saw Arabs and Israelis coming together. 383 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 3: And I think it is absolutely the case that if 384 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,239 Speaker 3: Trump were still in the White House today, the war 385 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 3: in Ukraine would not have happened, in the war in 386 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 3: Israel would not have happened. That it was Joe Biden 387 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 3: and Kamala Harris's weakness that caused those wars. And critically, 388 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 3: and Trump did a good job of this too, laying 389 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 3: out that that Listen, Kamala Harris has flowed over one 390 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 3: hundred billion dollars to Iran. Iran provides ninety percent of 391 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 3: the funding for hamas ninety percent of the funding for Hesbela, 392 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 3: Kamala Harris, in a very real sense paid for the 393 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 3: death squads that carried out the atrocities on October seventh, 394 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 3: and and and Kamala has no answer to that, And 395 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 3: and tonight showed that powerfully. You know. 396 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 2: I also think, and you go to the end of 397 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 2: the debate that one of the best parts was actually 398 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 2: Donald Trump in his closing argument. And it goes back 399 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 2: to the campaign strategy I think he needs to have 400 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 2: moving forward, and that is to make sure he makes 401 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 2: this about what she has done in comparison to what 402 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 2: she claims she wants to do while she's in charge. 403 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: Like you're in charge, you're in charge, You're in charge? 404 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:14,919 Speaker 5: Is it? 405 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 1: In Trump? 406 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 5: So she just started by saying she's going to do this, 407 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 5: She's going to do that, She's going. 408 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: To do all these wonderful things. Why hasn't she done it. 409 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 5: She's been there for three and a half years. They've 410 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,959 Speaker 5: had three and a half years to fix the border, 411 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:32,679 Speaker 5: they've had three and a half years to create jobs 412 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 5: and all the things we talked about. 413 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 1: Why hasn't she done it? She should leave right now. 414 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 5: Go down to that beautiful White House, go to the Capitol, 415 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 5: get everyone together, and do the things you want to do. 416 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 5: But you haven't done it, and you won't do it 417 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,400 Speaker 5: because you believe in things that the American people don't 418 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:49,800 Speaker 5: believe in. 419 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 2: It's a great line, and I wish it would have 420 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 2: been used even more. 421 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was the closing was Trump's best, best part 422 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 3: of the entire debate, and that was exactly the right message. 423 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 3: It's a message that the Trump campaign should amplify every 424 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 3: day between now an election day. Listen, you and I 425 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 3: have talked about how Kamala is trying to engage in 426 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 3: this divorced from reality campaign where she pretends she's not 427 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 3: in office, that she's not the incumbent, she disavows all 428 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 3: responsibility for the mess that is happening, and in fact, 429 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 3: she's behaving as if Donald Trump is the incumbent president 430 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 3: and she's the change candidate. She is in office right now, 431 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,400 Speaker 3: Joe Biden is in office right now, and on every 432 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 3: single level, on inflation, on crime, on illegal immigration, on 433 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 3: foreign policy, on safety and security, the world was much 434 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 3: much better when Trump was president than it is today, 435 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,360 Speaker 3: and that needs to be emphasized every day between now 436 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 3: an election Day. 437 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: Center her final question. 438 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 2: I think for you and really for me when I 439 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 2: was watching this tonight and it say, okay, where do 440 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 2: we go from here? I'm in favor of another debate. 441 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 2: I think you cover that earlier, right, you agree Trump 442 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 2: should do another one Number one. 443 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 3: Yes, but I don't think she will. I think you will. 444 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 1: So your prediction is she's done yep. Number two. 445 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 2: If you're Donald Trump, what do you learn for tonight 446 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 2: and what do you take into your big campaign rallies 447 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 2: from this? And what is your messaging to your surrogatece 448 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 2: tomorrow on the surrogate call. 449 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,959 Speaker 3: I think the message is she cannot defend her record, 450 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 3: and her record is a failure. The American people are 451 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 3: worse off. But listen, I think it's important to remember also, 452 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 3: this is not about Donald Trump, and it's not about 453 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 3: Kamala Harris. It is about the American people. It is 454 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:48,360 Speaker 3: about It is about young, young couples who are going 455 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 3: out and buying their first home and they're discovering that 456 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 3: a seven and a half percent mortgage rate is much 457 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 3: much worse than a two and a half percent mortgage 458 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,679 Speaker 3: rate that you get about half the house. That's happening 459 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,159 Speaker 3: right now nowaday people are hurting. It's about a single 460 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 3: mom who's trying to make ends meet and she can't 461 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 3: afford to buy groceries anymore because the prices have gone 462 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 3: so high, and when she tries to fill up her 463 00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 3: tank to go to work, it just about breaks her. 464 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 3: It's about the people who are suffering. Look today, on 465 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 3: September tenth, there was a ceremony in the Capitol where 466 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 3: the Congressional Gold Medal was awarded to the thirteen servicemen 467 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 3: and women who were murdered in Afghanistan from the absolutely 468 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 3: disastrous and incompetent withdrawal from Abbigate. And I'll tell you, 469 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,159 Speaker 3: the families were there, and it was a beautiful ceremony, 470 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 3: and the families. I spoke to many of the families. 471 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 3: I thanked every one of them that I could to 472 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 3: say thank you for your service and sacrifice. I'm sorry. 473 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 3: But I also to many of them. Had a follow 474 00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 3: up conversation where I said, there needs to be accountability. 475 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 3: There has been zero accountability. That the focus for the 476 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 3: campaign every day from now to election day needs to 477 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:14,679 Speaker 3: be the difference between Trump's record and Kamala's record and 478 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 3: critically bringing it home to the voters, how their lives 479 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 3: were much better when Trump was president than they have 480 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:27,239 Speaker 3: been under Kamala, and that her policies are failures and 481 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 3: they're hurting the American people. That's got to be the 482 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 3: central message. 483 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, as you mentioned a second ago, on this anniversary 484 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 2: of nine to eleven, I think it's important that we 485 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 2: also take a step back, remember how important it is 486 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 2: that you have competent leaders that understand how important it 487 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 2: is to protect and defend the home, lan, to protect 488 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 2: and defend freedom. And also just a moment to say 489 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 2: thank you to all of those that serve this country, 490 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 2: to all of those that wear the uniform, to all 491 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 2: those that have given the ultimate sacrifices and their families. 492 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,439 Speaker 2: There were so many people that died on nine to eleven, 493 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 2: but there was also the second part, and that was 494 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 2: so many that died because they wanted to protect and 495 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 2: defend us after nine to eleven that gave the ultimate sacrifice. 496 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 2: And I said to everybody listening, say thank you to 497 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,120 Speaker 2: a veteran. Text them. Everybody knows a veteran, tell them 498 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 2: thank you. I had the privilege of playing golf today 499 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 2: with some of those that actually took out some of 500 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 2: the worst terrorists in the world, some special operators, and 501 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 2: they were amazing guys, and I say to them, thank you, 502 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 2: because without you giving up years of your life and 503 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 2: risking your life and losing your brothers in uniform, we 504 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:46,800 Speaker 2: wouldn't have the freedoms we have today. 505 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: And that's what we need to remember. I think during 506 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: this election season as well. 507 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 2: Don't forget. We do the show Monday, Wednesday, Friday on Verdict. 508 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 2: I do my show Ben Ferguson podcasts every single day. 509 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 2: So grab our podcast at that subscriber auto download button 510 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 2: wherever you listen to these podcasts. 511 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 1: It's always fun. 512 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 2: We get to do a joint podcast the Senator and 513 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 2: I will see you back here in a couple of days, 514 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 2: and I'll see you back here tomorrow on the Ben 515 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 2: Ferguson podcasts as well. And again, God bless America and 516 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,719 Speaker 2: thanks to all of our veterans that are listening to you. 517 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: Guys are the heroes.