1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:00,840 Speaker 1: Can't. 2 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 2: I am six forty. 3 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 3: You're listening to the John Cobelt podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 4 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 3: Welcome John Cobelt's show. We're here at least for the 5 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 3: next week or so, from one until four o'clock. We'll 6 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 3: talk more about the changes later if you haven't heard, 7 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:20,280 Speaker 3: But right now I want to jump into a guest 8 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 3: that we don't have for long, Roger Bailey, who's got 9 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 3: to spend much of the day in court, but he's 10 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 3: carved out a few minutes for us. Roger Bailey is 11 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 3: one of the lead attorneys in the massive lawsuit filed 12 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 3: by Palisades residents against the City of Los Angeles, the DWP, 13 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 3: the State of California for the deadly Palisades fire that 14 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 3: killed twelve people, tens of billions of dollars in damages 15 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,599 Speaker 3: and somebody's got to pay and be held accountable for this. 16 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 3: And now an LA County Superior Court Judge, Samantha Jester 17 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 3: has said that the lawsuit can go forward because there 18 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 3: had been a filing to try to stop the lawsuit, 19 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 3: the state and the city claiming immunity. We're gonna have 20 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:06,759 Speaker 3: Roger Bailey explain all this. Roger how are you. 21 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 4: I'm doing good, John, how are you doing? 22 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 2: I'm good? Well tell me. 23 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 3: And I know a lot of this is a traditional 24 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 3: legal jousting, but the city and the state tried to 25 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 3: make the argument that they're immune from a lawsuit like this. 26 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right. And I want to be clear that 27 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 4: we had a hearing yesterday in the Superior Court and 28 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 4: the judge issued what are called tentative rulings, and these 29 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 4: are written rulings that the court puts together over the 30 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 4: weeks to precede the hearing, and then after the hearing, 31 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 4: the court will issue a final ruling. Now, again, we 32 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 4: don't anticipate that those tentative rulings will change, but that's 33 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 4: really up to the judge. She indicated she'll make those 34 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 4: rulings final within the week. But the motions were filed, 35 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 4: one by the city LEDWP and one by the State 36 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 4: of California, and they asked the court. Each of them 37 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 4: asked the court to throw the cases out on various 38 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 4: grounds including where the government we're immune from suit and 39 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 4: these claims can't go forward. And the tentative rulings that 40 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 4: the judge issued yesterday in essence confirmed that yes, the 41 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 4: claims can go forward both against the city and against 42 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:30,360 Speaker 4: the state, and all the various immunities and arguments that 43 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 4: each the state and the city raised were determined not 44 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 4: to be grounds for dismissing the lawsuits. So all good 45 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 4: news for the moment for Palisag fire victims. 46 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 3: Which means there's going to be more investigation and depositions 47 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 3: because now you have the runway cleared and you can 48 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:55,239 Speaker 3: go full bore into putting your case together. Talk about 49 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 3: what's they had for your side as you build the case. 50 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 4: Right, you remember we were able to take a few 51 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 4: limited depositions, five state park reps and twelve firefighters. Now 52 00:03:10,080 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 4: with the challenges to the suit behind us, we will 53 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 4: put together a comprehensive discovery plan and it'll be, like 54 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 4: you say, full steam ahead. Will get to go conduct 55 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 4: proper investigation, proper discovery, full depositions of many people, and 56 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 4: the case and the evidence will now be assembled in 57 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 4: the way that the law allows, so that we can 58 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 4: actually start to develop the case further. And that will 59 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 4: all start taking place, you know, immediately, and by that 60 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 4: I mean but certainly by by March we should be 61 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 4: all poised and ready to go with full blown discovery. 62 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 3: One of your one of your colleagues, Trey Robertson, the 63 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 3: lead attorney on the case as well. He told the 64 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 3: California Post there's more evidence coming out from the depositions 65 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 3: that will be shocking to the public. These are the 66 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 3: depositions that the city has labeled confidential at least for 67 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 3: thirty days. But all this stuff is going to come 68 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 3: to life fairly soon, right. 69 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right. I think with the last time I 70 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 4: was with you, I mentioned that I took a deposition 71 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 4: of a firefighter a week before last, and this was 72 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 4: the last of the twelve depositions, and the testimony from 73 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 4: this firefighter, although it's been designated preliminary confidential, was just 74 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 4: shocking and stunning even to us in the room. It 75 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 4: blows the lid off the cover up which we've all 76 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 4: read about in the Times and elsewhere. But when it's 77 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 4: made public. And by the way, we raised again yesterday 78 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 4: with the judge our interest in getting these depositions out 79 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 4: to the public. And while the lawyers for the city 80 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 4: originally said, well, we'll turn them around faster than the 81 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 4: thirty days we get, yesterday when pressed they said, oh, 82 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 4: we're going to need more time. So again, it's just 83 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 4: more delay, more cover up. But all of these depositions 84 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 4: will come out in full so the public can see 85 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 4: and hear what these various firefighters said, including the last one, which, 86 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 4: as I said, it is a game changer. It's a stunner, 87 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 4: you know. And I was just sitting there, you know, 88 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 4: stunned to hear what I heard. I mean, it is, 89 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:38,119 Speaker 4: it's going to be game changing. 90 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 2: You're driving me crazy here. 91 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 3: Sorry, I'm sitting here. I'm rocking back and forth in 92 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 3: my chair because I want to know. 93 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 2: I want to know. 94 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: You will will and it'll be worth the way, all right. 95 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 4: The public needs to know. 96 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 2: Listen. 97 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 3: If you can't release that, I'm coming over your house, 98 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 3: all right. I've got to know this stuff. The Bass 99 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 3: and now the California Post investigation. They have produced some 100 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 3: of the before and after versions of this after action report. 101 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 3: You know, before all the six rounds of edits and afterwards, 102 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:20,160 Speaker 3: how is her editing and how is the exposure that 103 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,559 Speaker 3: she was behind it? How's that going to affect your case? 104 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 4: Well, you know, what the government does with its own 105 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 4: allegedly internal evaluations of its own conduct is a separate issue. 106 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 4: Because our case focuses on the failures of the City 107 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 4: of Los Angeles after the Lachmann fire on January one, 108 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 4: up until and including the start of the Palisade fire 109 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:51,600 Speaker 4: on the seventh. So this after action report is we know, 110 00:06:51,640 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 4: it's supposed to be a retrospective look at the event 111 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 4: and what the city got right, what they didn't get right, 112 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 4: what they can do to improve things, and the fact 113 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 4: that they, in their own evaluation, want to put their 114 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 4: thumb on the scale and make things look better than 115 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 4: they were kind of defeats the whole purpose. So again, 116 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 4: they're not directly going to impact our case because we're 117 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 4: getting the actual facts the people that were there, which is, 118 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 4: by the way, I don't want to make you a 119 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 4: little more interested in this deposition, but what this last 120 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 4: firefighter said will will be eye opening on this very subject. 121 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 4: It will be, like I said, it will be just 122 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 4: stunning when you hear it. And again, the internal evaluation 123 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 4: by the city trying to change things, just you know, 124 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 4: it isn't going to directly affect our case. Our case 125 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 4: is about the direction fact. 126 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I mean a lot of this surrounds the 127 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 3: hot spot from Lockman fire that was never entirely put out. 128 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 2: It was smoldering, it was burning up to ground, and. 129 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 3: The firefighters left that site fairly quickly, and that is 130 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 3: the ignition point for fire number two on the seventh. 131 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 4: That's right. 132 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, we know. 133 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 4: That State Park reps were there. They were there for 134 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 4: several days, and you were indicating to the firefighters that 135 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 4: were there at the tail end of their mop up 136 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 4: that they the State Park Reps would be out patrolling 137 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 4: the area for days. So all indications were the state 138 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 4: was taking over the burn site and they were going 139 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 4: to do what every landowner, like the State of California, 140 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 4: has to do, and that is just to make sure 141 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 4: there are any problems on the property. And we know 142 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 4: they didn't do it because that ground continued to smolder 143 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 4: for six days until it reignited into palis States. Far 144 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 4: none of that should have happened if the state did 145 00:08:58,600 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 4: what it was supposed to do. 146 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 2: Roger Bailey, thank you for coming on. I can't wait. 147 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 3: Roger Bailey, lead attorney for the Palisades fire families who 148 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 3: suffered such tremendous losses. 149 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 2: We'll talk more about this. 150 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 5: Well. 151 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,199 Speaker 3: I wonder what it is, what's in that final deposition, 152 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 3: what's the real story? He sounds truly shocked. Well, eventually 153 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 3: it'll come. 154 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 6: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 155 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 6: six forty. 156 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 3: All right, let's address the move for a moment here, 157 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 3: because we haven't had a chance to talk about this. Yesterday, 158 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 3: everything was all all promo and tazing up to four o'clock. 159 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 2: And at four o'clock I went. 160 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:48,239 Speaker 3: On with Tim Conway and Paul Cordino, who's the top executive. 161 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 3: He's got some kind of long title here in Los Angeles, 162 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 3: and we explain what is coming, and it's coming Tuesday, 163 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 3: which is February on the seventeenth, the seventeenth. All right, Tuesday, 164 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 3: February seventeenth, because Monday's a holiday. 165 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 2: So and. 166 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 3: I'm going back to three o'clock start, which we had 167 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 3: for many years. So I'm gonna be on from three 168 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 3: until six. Conway's going back to his old time slot, 169 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 3: and it's going to be six until ten. And I 170 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 3: am very happy about this, and Conway's very happy about this. 171 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 3: I never would have had the show moved, and neither 172 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 3: would Tip. 173 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 7: But you know that, Uh, that's how you really feel 174 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 7: about that. 175 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 4: John. 176 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:41,319 Speaker 2: Oh, you really wouldn't want me. 177 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 7: To I know, I really do know there may. 178 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 3: Be a book someday and uh this that would be 179 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:50,839 Speaker 3: a chapter in the book, maybe a chapter in the 180 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 3: half and a half, because uh, look, I know a 181 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 3: lot of people have gotten used to listening in the 182 00:10:57,080 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 3: one and two o'clock hour, and some of you in 183 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:04,719 Speaker 3: various places online. And I that not to sound like 184 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 3: a customer service rep. But but I do understand that 185 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:12,599 Speaker 3: because when I was a kid, I had favorite disc jockeys, 186 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 3: I had favorite television shows. And for some reason, when 187 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 3: people often get into radio and TV management, they want 188 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 3: to take things that are working and they want to 189 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 3: muck things up, they want to move things around. I 190 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 3: don't know what it is that comparison I probably shouldn't use. 191 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 3: Uh this man is furiously editing himself. 192 00:11:40,160 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 2: And so this, this, this, this, and I remember. 193 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:43,719 Speaker 3: When I when I was a kid, when I was 194 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 3: a teenager, and my favorite radio show, my favorite TV 195 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 3: show suddenly moved around. Now I couldn't see it. It's 196 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 3: incredibly irritating, incredibly annoying. You know, and back then, you 197 00:11:52,280 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 3: know we're recording things or podcasts weren't weren't necessarily uh feasible. 198 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 3: So I understand, all right, and just in case you 199 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 3: an hear any stupid rumors or stupid explanations. Never wanted 200 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 3: to move, happy to come back. Conway's happy to go 201 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 3: back to six o'clock. I think this is where both 202 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 3: shows ought to be, and I hope you can join 203 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 3: us during those time slots. And there is always the 204 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 3: podcast now at least that's a good thing. And with 205 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 3: the podcast, you can play it anytime you want, so 206 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 3: if you still want to listen at one o'clock in 207 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:34,439 Speaker 3: the afternoon, then go right ahead. However, I would recommend 208 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 3: on KFI Michael Monks and Chris Merrill. They're going to 209 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 3: be the new team from noon to three, and they're 210 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 3: both very good and they have both you know, Michael, 211 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 3: you hear them on with us all the time doing 212 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 3: terrific news reports, and Chris has been filling in on 213 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 3: KFI for many years, including our show. So you know, 214 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 3: it's a new era. It's a new day, and I 215 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 3: think it's a better day. I think we're all going 216 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 3: to be in a better place for this. I'm happy 217 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:07,839 Speaker 3: about it now. Oh, part two of this Deborah is coming. 218 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 3: There's some people online who wanted to know. I don't 219 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 3: think we were explicit about that. 220 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 2: Yesterday. You are coming, right. 221 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:21,319 Speaker 7: How could I not work with you? John? I mean seriously, 222 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 7: how could I How I'm going into my tenth year 223 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 7: full time working with you. 224 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:27,199 Speaker 2: We couldn't live with that with each other? 225 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 3: No, all right, So Deborah is good to be on 226 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,679 Speaker 3: the whole show, and Eric is coming, and our producer 227 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,200 Speaker 3: Reray Lopez is coming. So it's exactly the same team 228 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 3: we were moving as a package, disrupting everybody's personal lives. 229 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 7: Well, that is true. John, sorry to say. 230 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 3: I know the things you do for me, but it's 231 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 3: all going to work out. So we want to thank 232 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 3: Brian Long, our program director, and Paul Corvino for facilitating 233 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 3: all this. You know, these things are not easy to 234 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 3: pull off in modern day corporate America. So, like I said, 235 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 3: this is going to be a good new era. Now 236 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 3: back to business. We just had Roger Bailey on a 237 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 3: few minutes ago, and Roger is the lead attorney for 238 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 3: the Palisades homeowners, thousands of them filing lawsuits against the 239 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 3: City of Los Angeles, including the DWB, the state of California. 240 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 3: In fact, the city of La issuing the State of 241 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 3: California because they want the State of California to pay 242 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 3: a lot of the damages, and it really, really the 243 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 3: central part of the case is the notorious flare up 244 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 3: of the January first Lachman fire that was abandoned by 245 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 3: the LA Fire Department. It looks like the state employees 246 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 3: from Parks and rec chased the LA Fire Department off 247 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 3: the hotspot, and the hotspot was never entirely put out. 248 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 3: It was smoldering, it was burning underground. It really was hot, 249 00:14:56,200 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 3: and the state and the city screwed up horribly. If 250 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 3: they had attended to that fire, or if they had 251 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:11,720 Speaker 3: put Cruise up there the morning of January seventh, none 252 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 3: of this would have happened. And as Roger Bailey said, 253 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 3: and it is driving me crazy because he's been on 254 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 3: twice now telling about the depositions of firefighters and other 255 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:29,120 Speaker 3: personality has done twelve of them, and the last one, 256 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 3: he said was especially jaw dropping and he wants to 257 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 3: share it, but he can't because Karen Bass got it 258 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 3: declared confidential. Her Goon attorneys went to court and asked 259 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 3: a judge to seal it up at least for a time. 260 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 3: It's supposed to be only thirty days. That's the normal protocol. 261 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 3: So we'll see I mean, because again, she's running for 262 00:15:55,960 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 3: reelection and she's trying to keep the headlines generic. The 263 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 3: media here in Los Angeles is extremely compliant with making 264 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 3: Karen Bass. Look, what's the word I'm looking for, benign, 265 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 3: And that's that's what she projects. She has mastered this 266 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 3: persona of benign, smiling, grandmotherly and she's not. 267 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 2: That. 268 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 3: That's a nasty, bad person on the inside, completely devoid 269 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 3: of empathy, utterly uncaring about what she's done. And the 270 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 3: most damning thing about her, of course, is getting five 271 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 3: days of horrible warnings and taking off for Ghana, taking 272 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 3: off for Africa. Anyway, there's no getting around that that 273 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 3: was a stupendous, stupendously stupid thing to do and extremely damaging. 274 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 3: And you know, there's one hundred other things that you've 275 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 3: already heard too many times, but I do want to 276 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 3: see what And of course, now you know, now we're 277 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 3: dealing with with Karen Bass covering up uh the fire 278 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 3: after action report uh and and. 279 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 2: And denying she covered it up. 280 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 3: But nobody's producing the name of the person who did 281 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 3: order the rewrite, which I find fascinating, and nobody follows 282 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 3: up on that. 283 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 2: It seems like we've got to do everything ourselves. 284 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 3: Although we have a new media outlet in town, which 285 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 3: is is actually succeeding greater than even I thought they would. 286 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:37,679 Speaker 3: I had a lot of high expectations for the California Post, 287 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 3: having read the New York Post since I was a 288 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 3: small child, and so I knew what they what that 289 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 3: company could do. I knew what their publishers and editors 290 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 3: could do the fact that they're actually doing it on 291 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 3: a daily basis because I still read the New York 292 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 3: Post every day, and uh, I see what they do 293 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 3: to New York City leaders. Uh they just cover things accurately, 294 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 3: which just isn't done in the LA media. Accurately, relentlessly 295 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 3: and not treating them like there's some sort of politicians, 296 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 3: like there's some sort of protected species, but treating him 297 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:19,239 Speaker 3: the way they should be treated. They're public servants who 298 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 3: are screwing people over. So we will, we'll keep on this, 299 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 3: and it's it's it's nice to have another media force 300 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 3: in the city that is going to do it. I 301 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 3: it's the first thing I'm reading every morning, the California Post, 302 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 3: and and you should too. And uh I I the 303 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 3: LA Times was mostly irrelevant and as every day goes by, 304 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 3: becomes more and more irrelevant, eventually it'll be completely dead. 305 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 3: Let's see, I got somebody coming up next. Oh yes, 306 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 3: Don Mahallick, and he's the retired Secret Service agent and 307 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 3: he's the ABC News Law enforcement contributor. What a whirlwind 308 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 3: last night and today regarding the Nancy Guthrie kidnapping case. Jeez, 309 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,159 Speaker 3: I went to bed with one story, woke up with another. 310 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 6: You're listening to John Cobel's on demand from KFI Am sixty. 311 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 3: We'reun every day between one and four o'clock and then 312 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 3: after four o'clock John Cobelt Show on demand on the 313 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 3: iHeart app. I probably should have beend that I'm so 314 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 3: used to saying it. We're going to be on starting 315 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 3: Tuesday from three to six. Okay, so we'll be on 316 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 3: in this time slot today, Tomorrow, Friday, and Monday, and 317 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 3: then Tuesday we're on from three to six, and three 318 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 3: to six will be the new time. I just got 319 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 3: used to saying the John Colebelt Show. I know, and 320 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 3: now John and Ken and now I've got to change 321 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:48,640 Speaker 3: the time. 322 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,160 Speaker 7: That's only going to take you probably a year. 323 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:56,239 Speaker 3: Don Mahallick is coming on he's the ABC News law 324 00:19:56,320 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 3: enforcement contributor and a retired Secret Service agent. And last 325 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 3: night I was sitting home by myself watching TV, and 326 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 3: I turned on all the cable channels and there was 327 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 3: even breaking news inside the Olympics, and it was all 328 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 3: about that they stopped the guy in Arizona in where's 329 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 3: that Rico? Rio Rio Rico, a few miles south of Tucson. 330 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 3: And maybe this is the guy, right because we alsow 331 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 3: the video yesterday of the intruder coming up to the 332 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 3: ring well the next camera and trying to cover it up, 333 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 3: and they think he's the kidnapper. And it seemed as 334 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 3: I went to bed last night, case solved, woke up 335 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 3: this morning, looked at the California Post headline said back 336 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 3: to square one. Oh, I guess that wasn't the guy 337 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 3: and they didn't catch the intruder. Don Mahollick's coming on 338 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:56,640 Speaker 3: from ABC News. How are you, Don? 339 00:20:58,280 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 1: I'm good, John, How are you man? 340 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 2: I'm doing all right. 341 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 3: You know, yesterday they had a swat team and the 342 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 3: bomb squad and all these people converging and it turned 343 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 3: out to be a big nothing. I mean, what do 344 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 3: you think happened last night? And I understand there was 345 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 3: another guy in Arizona that was detained and then he 346 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 3: was let go as well. It seems confusing to the 347 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 3: average person. 348 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 349 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 5: So unfortunately, because this case has had so few leads 350 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 5: that they could really follow up on. And right now, 351 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 5: I think they're at over eighteen thousand tips that have coming, 352 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 5: four thousand within the last twenty four hours. I think 353 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 5: a friend of mine called me fter nine to eleven. 354 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 5: Over two years, the FBI only got twenty thousand tips. 355 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 5: So it just shows you the amount of people calling 356 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 5: in tips, and you know, the FBI and the sheriff farmers, 357 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 5: they're trying to process all these tips and figure out 358 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:55,520 Speaker 5: what's legitimate and what's not. 359 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 2: Can I ask you a question about that. 360 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 3: Are these a lot of people who think there's psychics 361 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 3: or who think their dog is giving them signals? Because 362 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 3: because thousands and tips, when when most of these people 363 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,479 Speaker 3: aren't anywhere near the crime scene. I mean, these are 364 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 3: all the crazy people being shook from the crazy tree. 365 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 1: Right. 366 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 5: Well, you get all kinds that call whenever these things 367 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 5: happen from all over the place. But I mean with 368 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 5: the picture that that they've released, you know, and I 369 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 5: had this conversation with some friends, because if people ask HAACKM, 370 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 5: the reward isn't higher sixty thousand dollars seconds in higher, 371 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 5: I said, because there's a there's a tension point there 372 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 5: between incentivizing people to call invalid information and then making 373 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 5: it so high that everybody wants to try to get 374 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 5: a piece of the action, and then you get people 375 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:47,160 Speaker 5: calling from all over the place giving up erroneous information. 376 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 5: So yeah, it's it's a tough spot for the FBI 377 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 5: and the shorts form to be in because they clearly 378 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 5: don't have a solid lead. Although the FBI directors said 379 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 5: they have a couple people of interest or life looking 380 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 5: at which only means there's people out there trying. 381 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 1: To figure out where they were. They not involved, But 382 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 1: you know, it seems like this guy. 383 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 5: Carlos that identified and Rico Rio was probably called in 384 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 5: by somebody seemed to match the description. The FAI went 385 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 5: to go check them out. They framed it as he 386 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 5: was detained. It was a short detention and then they 387 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 5: released them. But I think everybody's grasping at straws right 388 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 5: now looking for the rainbow. The rainbow here at the end, 389 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 5: and you know clearly that didn't happen last night. 390 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it doesn't seem like they have a beat 391 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 3: one where she is obviously too. And if they knew 392 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 3: where she was, would they go in and try to 393 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 3: get her out of out of the house, let's say, 394 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 3: or out of the basement, or would they just let 395 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,239 Speaker 3: it be? What's the strategy because you certainly don't want 396 00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 3: to end up getting killed there. 397 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 1: No, Well, that's why the FAI his the HRT, the 398 00:23:58,400 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: Hostage Rescue Team. 399 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, in Arizona, the Hostage Rescue Team is a Tier 400 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 5: one law enforcement hostage rescue asset. And most of the 401 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 5: FBI agents that are part of the Hostage Rescue Team 402 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 5: are former special Forces you know, Seal dealt, the Force, whatever, 403 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 5: and now there FBI agents and they do this work. 404 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 5: So they're out there just in case they do get 405 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 5: a solid lead that they locate her someplace that they 406 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 5: can go in and extract her from whatever situation. 407 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 2: Season. 408 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 5: So, I think the FBI is ready for that type 409 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 5: of pinetic activity should it happened. But as we're watching 410 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 5: in the news, there don't have this seam to have 411 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 5: a solid lead yet either where she's at, and they 412 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 5: clearly haven't heard from the alleged kidnapper, because otherwise, when 413 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 5: I go back to if the goal was money, the 414 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,399 Speaker 5: kidnapper would be communicating because they would want to get paid. 415 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,679 Speaker 5: The fact that the kidnapper went dark and hasn't been 416 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 5: communicating and they haven't been able to they still have 417 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 5: it said. If these notes are authentic, it's pretty concerning 418 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 5: for the case in general. 419 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 2: Despite the images we've. 420 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: Got, it's pretty concerning, and it makes you really. 421 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 3: Wonder what was the what really happened there that night. 422 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 3: Today there's another story, a TMZ story. A ransom note 423 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 3: was sent to that outlet, a demand for one bitcoin, 424 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 3: just one, which is worth about sixty seven thousand dollars today, 425 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 3: and then in exchange they would get the name of 426 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 3: the individual involved. So this seems like another party who 427 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 3: thinks they know who did it, unless it's a prank 428 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 3: and they're willing to give the name up for sixty 429 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 3: seven thousand. 430 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:45,640 Speaker 1: All right. 431 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 5: So that goes back to your points of everybody comes 432 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 5: out of the woodwork here and they got to figure 433 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,360 Speaker 5: out is that are somebody who's a legit person who 434 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 5: really has information, or is this a hoax or is 435 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,680 Speaker 5: this a form of extortion? Because in our reality, there's 436 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 5: already a reward out there, which is fifty thousand dollars, 437 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,439 Speaker 5: which is close to the value of a bitcoin. Why 438 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 5: wouldn't you just call the FBI or whoever and give 439 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,160 Speaker 5: up this information and get the reward unless the individual 440 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 5: has this information is tied into whatever happened and they 441 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 5: don't want to come forward publicly because they don't want 442 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 5: to get arrested and prosecutor and everything else. So they 443 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,840 Speaker 5: have to figure out is this legit is a hoax? 444 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 5: Is this a crazy It's a lot of work for 445 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 5: them to do, and the fact that the Bureau got 446 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 5: a late start of getting involved in this processing crime 447 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 5: scene hasn't really helped the overall case. 448 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of funny. Did you think the case 449 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 2: was going to be settled last night? 450 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 3: I saw a lot of experts on television on several channels, 451 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 3: and they all thought, no, what made you think it 452 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 3: wasn't really going to happen. 453 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,880 Speaker 5: A case Listen, a case like this with the complications 454 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 5: that have occurred, with the lack of identification and with 455 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 5: the lack of DNA and everything. Uh, it would have 456 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 5: been amazing if they got the right guy. Last night, 457 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 5: I didn't expect it at all. I expected it to 458 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 5: be I expect I expect them to have a couple 459 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,160 Speaker 5: of false starts until they eventually get to a resolution. 460 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 3: All right, Hey, thanks for coming on, Don, you got it, John, 461 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 3: thanks for having me. Don Mahallick, ABC News Law enforcement contributor, 462 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,440 Speaker 3: retired senior Secret Service agent. We have one quick clip 463 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 3: to play. Carlos Palazuelos. He was the guy detained. He 464 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 3: was a delivery driver and his car was pulled over 465 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 3: to the side of the road a traffic stop, and 466 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 3: he was taken in and questioned, and everybody thought, oh, 467 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 3: they got the guy. Uh, they let him go. And 468 00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 3: here's what he sounded like after he came out of custody. 469 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 7: I hope to get the suspect. 470 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 2: I'm not it. 471 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 8: Hey better do their job and find the suspect. They 472 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 8: did it so they can clear my name and I'm done. 473 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 8: Look even my parents in Tucson. 474 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 9: Yeah, when they finally told you this was how to 475 00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:03,720 Speaker 9: do with some kidnapping, Like, what what were you thinking? 476 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 2: What the anything? 477 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,919 Speaker 8: To be honest, I'm innocent, what the. 478 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:10,800 Speaker 3: F am I doing here? And what I heard in 479 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 3: another report is he had no idea who Nancy Guthrie 480 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 3: was no idea who Savannah Guthrie was, had no idea 481 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 3: what the Today Show was. 482 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 7: Not everybody, John, I don't know. 483 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:24,879 Speaker 1: I understand that. 484 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 3: I mean that he's not in their demo. He's just 485 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 3: delivering stuff. And he was delivering in the neighborhood where 486 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 3: Nancy lived, and somebody decided he was a bad guy. 487 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 3: But he wasn't a bad guy. I saw the mother 488 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 3: last out on TV and she looked utterly baffled because 489 00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 3: the FBI sent in a crew to turn her house 490 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 3: upside down. Now she's got federal agents, you know, ripping 491 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 3: everything up and dumping out drawers, and it's like, what 492 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 3: what are you gonna do when we come back? You 493 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,520 Speaker 3: know what I'm gonna I'm gonna play the I'm gonna 494 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 3: play the the the clip of Newsom's wife. All right, 495 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 3: I don't plate now, other things will happen and I'll forget. 496 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 3: I can tell you we've been talking, Ray and Eric 497 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 3: and I have been talking. We're implay a clip of 498 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 3: Newsom's wife coming up, Jennifer, Jennifer Sidebell. Newsom and she 499 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 3: apparently had arranged a planned parenthood press conference and the 500 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 3: governor was speaking, and it looks like the questions were 501 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 3: not about planned parenthood, and she got pissed off. And 502 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 3: you listen to this and you understand why Gavin likes 503 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 3: to hit the tequila every once in a while. 504 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 6: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI A six. 505 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 3: Starting Tuesday, we're on from three to six. Starting Tuesday, 506 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 3: we're on from three until six. The new move is 507 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,479 Speaker 3: just days away. I want to play this clip. Well, 508 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 3: I have a chance. Just found it. Jennifer Cybel Newsom, 509 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 3: the wife of Gavin Newsom. They were holding some planned 510 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 3: parenthood press conference, you know, some women's thing. 511 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 5: Uh. 512 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 3: She was wearing all pink. She's wearing a very expensive 513 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 3: pink pants suit. 514 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 2: In fact, I. 515 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 3: Wanted you to take a look at it, Debora, because 516 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 3: you could maybe estimate the cost of this. And she's 517 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 3: got all these planned parenthood people standing beside her, and 518 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 3: most of them are wearing something pink or purple or 519 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 3: mauve or I don't know what. So Gavin's there and 520 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 3: the part of the clip I saw that we're gonna 521 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 3: play for you. Apparently Gavin had been speaking and the 522 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 3: reporters were asking questions, but none of the questions were 523 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 3: about playing parenthood. 524 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 2: I don't know what the event is, but you know 525 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 2: what these things are. 526 00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 3: Uh, And so Jennifer Newsome steps in to scold the 527 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 3: reporters play the clip. 528 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 9: We just find it incredulous that we have plind parenthood 529 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 9: here and women are fifty one percent of the population, 530 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 9: and the majority of the questions, all of these questions 531 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 9: have really been about other issues. So it's just passing. 532 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 9: You have this incredible women's caucus and all these allies, 533 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 9: and you're not asking about it, and this happens over 534 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 9: and over and over and over again. You wonder why 535 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 9: we have such a horrific war on women in this 536 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 9: country and that these guys are getting away with it 537 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 9: because you don't seem to care. So I just offer 538 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 9: that with love, things are. You have incredible women in 539 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 9: this room, and you have these allies. Ask about what 540 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 9: we're here for today? Don't you think? Thank you? 541 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 2: How about this? They don't. 542 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 3: The reporters don't care. In fact, most people don't care. 543 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 3: Nobody wants to go to a press conference about planned parenthood. 544 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 3: Everybody knows what that's about. There's no news there. And 545 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 3: she's standing behind a pink sign on the podium. That's 546 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 3: just stopped stopping, stopping Trump's war on women. There's no 547 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 3: war on women going on. That's one of those made 548 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 3: up progressive slogans. It's a low to hooey. Most of 549 00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 3: the reporters in the room at the Associated Press of 550 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 3: the New York Times were women. So she's scolding other 551 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:22,760 Speaker 3: women for asking other questions about issues that are really 552 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 3: important to most people. 553 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 2: I don't know what the questions were. It'd be kind 554 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 2: of interesting to hear that. 555 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 3: But you know, these people are in their own little 556 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 3: bubbles and they think that their pet cause is the 557 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 3: world's pet cause. 558 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 5: No. 559 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 2: Hey, if women are fifty one percent, men are forty 560 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 2: nine percent. Trust me. I have never talked to a 561 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 2: man who cares about playing parenthood. 562 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 7: But her suit is very pretty. It looks silk. I'm 563 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 7: sure it's probably one thousand dollars. 564 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, that looks I think that's more than a thousand. 565 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 7: Maybe more. I'd certainly like it. I think that I 566 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 7: could rock that. 567 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's kind of shiny, shiny. Still, it's so yeah, 568 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 3: it's expensive. It looks more expensive than the stuff you wear. 569 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 7: I don't wear a thousand dollars suits, Thank you. Very much. 570 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 3: But the thing is it was him speaking and she 571 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 3: butts in, and he might she might as well have 572 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 3: held up a jar in the air to show how 573 00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 3: much he owed, how much she owns there. I mean, he's, 574 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 3: he's and he just stands there with a silly look 575 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 3: on his face and his hands folded. This is why 576 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 3: the man drinks. Let me tell you, imagine getting that 577 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 3: at home. 578 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 7: Seriously, Well, she dresses nice, she dress something pretty. 579 00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 3: But she's scolding everybody. Look, you don't get to determine 580 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 3: what news reporters want to cover. Your issue is not 581 00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 3: in the top fifty. Okay, I'm not going to bore 582 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 3: everybody with the list of the most important issues in 583 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,720 Speaker 3: California that reporters want to ask Newsom about, because he 584 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,040 Speaker 3: never lets the media near him very often, so you 585 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 3: get a chance to actually ask him something. And he's 586 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 3: also terrible at answering questions. He's embarrassing, that's why he 587 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 3: avoids it. Well, of course you're going to ask about 588 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,719 Speaker 3: something else that actually matters to most people. I've never 589 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 3: went into a person who gets animated about planning parady. 590 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 2: We all know what that is. 591 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 3: Okayh yeah, yeah, all right, coming up, all right now. 592 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:13,360 Speaker 3: And the reason I'm wornery today, I think I'll have 593 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:17,440 Speaker 3: some time now, maybe I'll never stop once I get started, 594 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 3: is is I was in customer service hell yesterday and today. Eric, 595 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 3: a prime witness in this case, may have to testify, 596 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:30,280 Speaker 3: and the company is here in the Los Angeles area. 597 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,040 Speaker 3: I'm not going to mention it on the off chance 598 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:38,479 Speaker 3: it's an advertiser, but boy, if it's not talk about 599 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 3: this next something's got to change in the world. This 600 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 3: customer service routine I am so done with. I'm going 601 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 3: to start taking customer service reps as hostages one day. 602 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 3: Debora Mark is live in the KFI twenty four our newsroom. Hey, 603 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 3: you've been listening to the John Cobalt Show podcast. 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