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Speaker 1: All right, hi everybody, how are you doing. My name

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Speaker 1: is Luke Thomas. The date is technically the twenty sixth

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Speaker 1: of September twenty twenty one, and it is time for

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Speaker 1: our UFC two sixty six post fight show. UFC two

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Speaker 1: sixty six is now in the books. It is late

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Speaker 1: as balls. It is one sixteen in the morning. And yes,

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Speaker 1: I know there's gonna be everyone on the UK being like,

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Speaker 1: but it's really late here. I know, but you know

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Speaker 1: this is a US based event. It's fucking late, okay,

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Speaker 1: So in any case, uh, what are we gonna do.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get to all of the results, We're gonna

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Speaker 1: get to all of the analysis, and there is a

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Speaker 1: lot on this I'm gonna have to skip some stuff

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Speaker 1: on the middle to back end of this car just

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Speaker 1: to give the three top fights all the analysis they deserve.

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Speaker 1: So if you don't want spoilers, now's your time to go.

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Speaker 1: well with me and my co host Brian Campbell. We

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Speaker 1: do it Monday, Wednesday Friday, but we do all kinds

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Speaker 1: of post fight stuff, reactions on the ground you name it.

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Speaker 1: further ado, let's get this party started. All right. So,

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Speaker 1: now that you have liked the video, and now that

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Speaker 1: you have subscribed, let's talk about some of these results.

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Speaker 1: And of course, if you're sticking around, I'm assuming that

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Speaker 1: you are okay with the results being told. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's get to it. UFC two sixty six took place

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Speaker 1: in Oops, here we go. It took place at the

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Speaker 1: Tea Mobile Arena in Las Vegas, Nevada. In your main event,

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Speaker 1: Alexander Volkonowski defeats Brian Ortega via unanimous decision. The scores

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Speaker 1: were forty nine to forty six, fifty to forty five,

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Speaker 1: which will kind of surprised by, and then fifty forty four,

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Speaker 1: which is also surprising to a degree. Not a big one,

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Speaker 1: but a little one. Okay, what do you want to

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Speaker 1: say about this fight? I mean, Jesus Christ, that was

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Speaker 1: that was something that was something. First thing I think

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Speaker 1: I'll say is they kind of alluded to it after

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Speaker 1: the fact. Volkanowski so running on like media speak that

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Speaker 1: he doesn't even realize, like he like immediately contradicted himself

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Speaker 1: because he was asked by DC, do you think you're

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Speaker 1: finally gonna get some respect? And I think it's like,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm finally gonna fucking get some And then

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Speaker 1: right after that he says quite the opposite. He goes,

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Speaker 1: I don't care if I get any respect, you know,

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Speaker 1: keep doubt of me fuels me. It's like, well, you know,

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Speaker 1: all right, which is it? But neither here nor there.

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Speaker 1: This was a fight though that he was looking to

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Speaker 1: get some respect. I think there are people there's probably

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Speaker 1: a couple of reasons for it. One, he had two

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Speaker 1: fights with Max Holloway that were very very close, especially

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Speaker 1: the second one, and he won both of them, somewhat

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Speaker 1: or too many people's perceptions, quite controversially. He won those

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Speaker 1: he had beaten Jose Aldo in the fight prior to that,

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Speaker 1: and she had Mendez prior to that and had a

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Speaker 1: nice run. Fact he's on a nineteen or now twenty

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Speaker 1: five win streak. But he had beaten a fan favorite.

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Speaker 1: Number one. He had beaten a fan favorite twice, somewhat controversially.

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Speaker 1: The first time. I don't think it is all that

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Speaker 1: They didn't want to acknowledge what he was doing. I

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Speaker 1: think they thought that he was not a pretender per se,

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Speaker 1: but he was not on Max's level, and that this

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Speaker 1: again it wasn't like you like viciously ko Jose Aldo,

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Speaker 1: whereas Max finished Aldo twice, So what was really going

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Speaker 1: is there are moments in this fight in particular that

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Speaker 1: a fair amount of experimentation, like a choke from the back.

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Speaker 1: in the first Holloway fight, he attempted three hundred and three.

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Speaker 1: catching kicks. It can make up the differential in takedown ability,

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00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 1: and just as a way to sort of shut down

428
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,240
Speaker 1: some of what he was trying there less so with

429
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,240
Speaker 1: takedowns per se, but keeping him honest, I thought the

430
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 1: catching of the kicks by Ortego was really, really, really good.

431
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,439
Speaker 1: I do worry about the amount of damage he's taken.

432
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,639
Speaker 1: He didn't take hardly any that I can remember of

433
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:34,880
Speaker 1: a significant kind against Chance Sung Jung, but he got

434
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 1: worked over by Max. And this was bad too, even if,

435
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,040
Speaker 1: again some of it's not so much from the strikes themselves,

436
00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:45,680
Speaker 1: but the what do you call it, the the headbutting,

437
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 1: the inadvertent head strikes. So I do worry about that.

438
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 1: I worry that he is so popular that they I

439
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 1: wasn't against this title shot. They needed to do something

440
00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:00,400
Speaker 1: different with the division when they had it, and they

441
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,200
Speaker 1: needed to get some fresh blood, and they're just giving

442
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,399
Speaker 1: the fight to Max again. Didn't make a ton of sense.

443
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 1: But you can just see dude, Max, I mean, just

444
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 1: think about what Max and Or and Volkanovski are doing

445
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 1: to the rest of that division. They've polished off Aldo twice.

446
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 1: Max did so, he sent him to bantamweight, and Volkanovski

447
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 1: beat him too. But in terms of just like damaging people,

448
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 1: polished off Aldo twice collectively, we're talking about polished them

449
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,960
Speaker 1: off twice. Uh put a beaten on Ortaga, both of

450
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 1: them did, and sent Mendez more or less into retirement.

451
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,120
Speaker 1: You know, they're just out here sending people to divisions

452
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 1: and retirements and giving them epic beatings. Like they're hurting

453
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,879
Speaker 1: these boys out here. Man, They're giving them solid work,

454
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:52,239
Speaker 1: solid work. It is shocking what they are doing. So

455
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 1: they have found themselves in a position now where the

456
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 1: trilogy fight at one hundred and forty five pounds is

457
00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 1: the only one to make. But you can see, man,

458
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 1: they're the gap between Max and Volkanovski and the rest

459
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 1: of the division. Owe an add Cater to the list,

460
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:12,919
Speaker 1: so you have Aldo, Cater, Mendez or Tega, you know

461
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,000
Speaker 1: again between them in terms of you take the best

462
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 1: of what both have done as sort of a united front. Dude,

463
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 1: they're fucking featherweights up, man, They're fucking them up, and uh,

464
00:24:25,359 --> 00:24:27,119
Speaker 1: you just have no choice at this point but to

465
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,720
Speaker 1: put Max and and Volkanovski together. In terms of some

466
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 1: of the adjustments I thought Volkanovsky made, he got he

467
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,920
Speaker 1: began to look much more like himself by the third round.

468
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 1: I think at that point he began to get a

469
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,919
Speaker 1: clear sense of distance. You'll notice what he'll do is

470
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,119
Speaker 1: he'll throw a jab, then pull, and then throw a

471
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 1: two and then pull again and Not only was the

472
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 1: timing beginning to work for him, but I noticed that

473
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,600
Speaker 1: several times he would jab and then pull and then

474
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,119
Speaker 1: go back for the for the for the two, and

475
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 1: when he did and then pull again, so he's pulling

476
00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,399
Speaker 1: twice for two punches. I noticed that or two a

477
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 1: lot of times was just short. So it looked to

478
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 1: me like, obviously the first round or Tego has had

479
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,119
Speaker 1: a much better opportunity to land. The second round there

480
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 1: was still some of that, and again you would not

481
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 1: exactly know that Ortega had the reach disadvantage. It looked

482
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 1: to me like, you know, it felt it felt a

483
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,439
Speaker 1: little bit like he had to reach advantage even if

484
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,199
Speaker 1: he wasn't weaponized that way or measured in a way

485
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:27,639
Speaker 1: that matters. So I really I thought the timing of

486
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 1: what Volkanoski was doing was good. But it was that

487
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 1: third round where to me, that's when we began to change,

488
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 1: even before everything else, by virtue of the ease, which

489
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:38,520
Speaker 1: he was able to slip into that kind of mode

490
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 1: where it's just showing you looks landing and going. Someone

491
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 1: charges in, he counters, he goes, he's sort of constantly

492
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 1: in that in that position that he begins to lead

493
00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 1: and back up, and there was a lot of that

494
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 1: as well. That was a hell of a fight. That

495
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 1: was a hell of a fight. That was better than

496
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 1: either of the fights with Holloway that Volkanowski had. Those

497
00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:00,399
Speaker 1: were much more tactical, uh and back and forth in

498
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,400
Speaker 1: terms of what Max was able to do and vice versa.

499
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 1: But this one had much more drama. This is the

500
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,919
Speaker 1: one time where you were able to see what happens

501
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: when someone's much better than Volkanovsky in one department the

502
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,919
Speaker 1: way in which Ortega did it, Well know, is that

503
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 1: really all that fair? Okay at submissions at submissions or

504
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 1: Tega is much better than Holloway at submissions. But on

505
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 1: the ground, what I would say is with that kind

506
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 1: of submission defense, which I think eventually you would get

507
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,120
Speaker 1: caught doing that, you could not do that for very

508
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 1: you know, I realized he did it and played with

509
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 1: fire the entire time, But you could not do that

510
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,640
Speaker 1: for like a career and get away with it. Someone

511
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 1: was going to catch you eventually. But between I would say,

512
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 1: let's say resilience, submission, savvy, ground and pound. The reversal

513
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 1: that he scored after he was in trouble in what

514
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 1: the fourth. I believe he scored a reversal. You know

515
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 1: again pure jiu jitsu obviously, or Tega is significantly better.

516
00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,719
Speaker 1: But even on the ground, man Vokanovski is pretty good.

517
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 1: But okay, Ortega had success because in terms of the

518
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: application of submission and the submission defense and the way

519
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,719
Speaker 1: which he was able to do it through punishment so

520
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 1: quickly with that quick clamp, he had a clear he

521
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: had a clear lead on Bolkanovski in that particular dimension.

522
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 1: But it just wasn't enough due to the grit and

523
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: will and determination and due he must have bitten through

524
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: his mouthpiece. If you guys have never seen it, go

525
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: look at it. I think it was UFC on Fox three,

526
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 1: the third of those big UFC on Fox events. When

527
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 1: that thing, when that when that whole idea really mattered.

528
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: Nate Diaz, the brother, of course of Nick Diaz, scores

529
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 1: a guillotine mounted guillotine win over Jim Miller, by the way,

530
00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 1: another black belt. Why do I bring it up because

531
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: when it happened, and if it's ever happened to you,

532
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 1: it is extremely painful having to me one time, and

533
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: it was really bad. If you're not careful Let's say

534
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 1: you're breathing through your mouth and someone scores a guillotine

535
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 1: or at least tries to clamp it up. It is

536
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 1: possible that your tongue can get stuck between your teeth,

537
00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 1: like Jim Miller's got caught. So the gear team was

538
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: on like this, the guy nearly bit his tongue off

539
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: his own tongue because the pressure was so tired. Dude,

540
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: that looked like the kind of pressure that or Taga had. Amazing, amazing, dude.

541
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 1: I struggle to think who else would have gotten out

542
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,199
Speaker 1: of that? Like, could Max have gotten out of that?

543
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: You want to say yes, But dude, those were so

544
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:25,680
Speaker 1: tight and so quickly applied. I don't know. I don't

545
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,239
Speaker 1: know if anyone else could have gotten out of those.

546
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if Jose Aldo himself could have gotten

547
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 1: out of those. And obviously he had a really decorated

548
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 1: run in jiu jitsu before going to MM, at least

549
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: through to the brown belt level. So there you have it.

550
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 1: Uh Vulkanovsky doing Volkanovski things, showing new wrinkles by showing

551
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 1: the kind of determination to get out of a bad

552
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 1: submission situation that you may literally never see again that

553
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: that that's how good that is, showing ground and pound,

554
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: showing a willingness to go into Brian or Tega's guard,

555
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: showing an indefatigable motor. I didn't think he was getting

556
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 1: tired in the fifth I thought he was doing or

557
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 1: take a bit of a favor quite candidly, evenough, or

558
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 1: take what's kind of putting on them a little bit

559
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 1: in terms of just like sparing the guy a beating,

560
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: and you just saw that, dude, whoever is gonna beat

561
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: this guy is gonna have to be a special fighter

562
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 1: on a very special night. Nothing short of that will do.

563
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: You're talking about the very bleeding edge of the game

564
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: in terms of tactical strategic innovation and an orientation about

565
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: how to disrupt everyone else's rhythm, h and process by

566
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 1: which they can even get going in a fight. Next level,

567
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: next level, next level work. All right, we'll come back

568
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 1: to that. If you have a question, here, I'm gonna

569
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 1: put up let's do this. This is true. Oh you

570
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: know what, let's see. I'm gonna put it right here.

571
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 1: I got a few questions. Yeah, I got a couple

572
00:29:54,480 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 1: of these. I'll go with these. Hold on, you know what,

573
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 1: let me leave a question here. Sorry to interrupt the

574
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 1: flow of the show like a dumb ass, but I

575
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: have to. Okay, just a reminder thought here, you know what,

576
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 1: let's do this. Just got a question for me about

577
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:26,080
Speaker 1: the UFC two sixty six. Leave one here. Do we

578
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 1: want to say a whole lot about the Comaane Valentina.

579
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 1: Chefchenko defeats Lauren Murphy via TKO at four minutes of

580
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 1: the fourth round. Let me look at the numbers on this,

581
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 1: You know, I don't. Here's the thing. I like Lauren

582
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: Murphy a lot. I respect her journey, I respect her

583
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 1: as a fighter. I think she's a very good fighter.

584
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 1: Someone was asking me, well, if she's a good fighter,

585
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: well then how come she can't do more to Chefchenko.

586
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: Even this comparison is crude, But this is the kind

587
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 1: of thing you should be thinking about when you think

588
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 1: about how to answer that question. The answer is like,

589
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 1: how did Dustin Poorier lose to Habib? And Hahbi was

590
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: a specialist in sort of just one area, whereas Chefchenko

591
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 1: threw this fight and many other ones. I've shown how

592
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: well rounded she is. But the idea is, like, dude,

593
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: Dustin Poorie is a good ass. He's a very good fighter,

594
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: but it's Kabib, Like you know, very good super elite

595
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,479
Speaker 1: is just not enough relative to what he had, especially

596
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: on that night. Lauren Murphy is a good fighter. She

597
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: won five in a row to get here. She was

598
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: an evicted champion. Like, dude, Lauren Murphy can fight. She's good, talented,

599
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: hard working. No one did her any promotional favor. She

600
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: got this one the hard way. Like I respect her,

601
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 1: but dude, this was you know, I don't know if

602
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 1: she was ever in this fight. Listen to some of

603
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: these numbers in terms of significant strikes landed. Here's the

604
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: differential rounds one Chefchenko twenty, Lauren Murphy three, round two

605
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: chef Chenko ten, Lauren Murphy one, round three Chefchenko twenty one,

606
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: Lauren Murphy five. And then when shit got really bad

607
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: where it stopped round four Chevchenko forty seven, Lauren Murphy two.

608
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: The most she was able to land in a round

609
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 1: was five, which was round three, and it's partly because

610
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: Chefchenko opened up a little bit more, but in the

611
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: end that would be her undoing. This was not a

612
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 1: very competitive fight. I think a lot of us knew

613
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: that it was not very competitive going in. I did

614
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,719
Speaker 1: not know exactly what I thought Lauren Murphy could do

615
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 1: to meaningfully improve her chances. You know, the one answer

616
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,360
Speaker 1: that I gave on Morning Combat was, you know, just

617
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: standing at range with her and trying to like out

618
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: smarter probably will go real bad. So you know you

619
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: have to kind of just you know, buy down on

620
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: the mouth piece a little bit, but you have to

621
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 1: you know, brawl a box or box of brawler. You

622
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: kind of had to make it ugly and get in

623
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: her face. But like, it's that's so much easier said

624
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: than done. It's silly to even say that, And there

625
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: a degree because you can't just chase down a person

626
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: like that, like that, they're a matador in a bowl.

627
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: Like eventually you'd be able to make contact if you

628
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 1: didn't get visiously KOed. But you know you're gonna it's

629
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: not smart to do with that. You're gonna get hurt

630
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: doing that. You may the fight may end before it

631
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: even begins doing that. Like, there's all kinds of risks

632
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 1: doing that. If you can do that, if you can

633
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 1: get to this person without getting slept, and you can

634
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 1: kind of you know, clinch with them and then kind

635
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: of a dirty box with them, and maybe maybe there's

636
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: something that could happen there. Try your hand that to

637
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: take down and see how it goes. But the problem is, dude,

638
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: Chivchenko's distance management is incredible, her fainting is incredible, her

639
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: speed is better than her peers, Her athleticism is far

640
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: better than her peers, her takedown ability is strong, her

641
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: fight IQ is exceptional, Like, she makes good choices, she

642
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: has good weapons to use, she has good physicality to

643
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 1: pull off whatever she's trying to do, and she's careful

644
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: when she needs to be and presses the gas when

645
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 1: the doors are open, like you know. I'm not sure

646
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: what to say about that. She had a total of

647
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: ninety eight strikes Chifchenko landed Murphy a total of eleven,

648
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 1: just twelve percent of her strikes were significant strikes nineteen

649
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 1: out of one hundred total. So those gonna be like

650
00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: small strikes like camerafists or whatever this was. This was

651
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: probably as advertised up through the sory, I should say,

652
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: starting with the hally Home fight. It's kind of funny

653
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: she just had the one lost with NONEZ. But even

654
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 1: if you count that, even if she had won that,

655
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 1: it would have been a decision. So since beating Home,

656
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 1: Chefchenko has alternated between decisions and then stoppage wins and

657
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 1: then decision and stoppage, decision, stoppage, and her last sight

658
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 1: was a TKO and like heading into round four, I

659
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: think some folks are like Jesus, are we're gonna get,

660
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 1: you know, another decision here. It looked that way until

661
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 1: round three when she began to really start heating her up,

662
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 1: and you know, it's the same kind of things you

663
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: would expect from Chefchenko. One two leg kick when she

664
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 1: was sort of backing out straight, which you heard her

665
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 1: coach talk about. The left over the top was surprising

666
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 1: Lord Murphy, her hands bead of Schevchenko was surprising Lauren Murphy.

667
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: She was just never really in this one A. This

668
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: is a listen, Why would you make a fight like

669
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 1: this because we say that Lauren Murphy earned it. If

670
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 1: you are the champion, it is your responsibility to make

671
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:19,719
Speaker 1: that belt available to contenders at a reasonable schedule, right.

672
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: You owe that to them, You owe that to that division.

673
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 1: You owe them much like a mandatory would work in boxing,

674
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: which by the way, Usik was a mandatory for Joshua.

675
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,399
Speaker 1: You owe them, even if you don't think they deserve it,

676
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: or you just think the styles you know would be boring,

677
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 1: whatever whatever objection you might have, someone's got enough of

678
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: a case for it. And again with the matchmaker model,

679
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 1: it's whatever they want it to be. But you know,

680
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: five wins in a row and that division is impressive,

681
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 1: where she was clearly like the top candidate for it.

682
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 1: You owe it to them to give them a shot,

683
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: and if they fail, then they fail, But that's your responsibility.

684
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,719
Speaker 1: That's what this fight was about. Lauren Murphy had a

685
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: chieve something really commendable and had earned an opportunity against

686
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: somebody who she to her credit, she was like, I

687
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: don't want to beat easy fighters to beat. I want

688
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 1: to beat hard fighters to beat fair enough. I respect

689
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 1: that completely. She got her opportunity, it was just way

690
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: too much, way too much. She could never really get going.

691
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,760
Speaker 1: It lasted as long as it did because Murphy managed

692
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,879
Speaker 1: the risk appropriately to let it keep continuing, but at

693
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:33,760
Speaker 1: some point there was no dice. Three takedowns Valentini Chevchenko

694
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: is credited with one in the first, one in the second,

695
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: and the vicious one that ultimately helped the cause the stoppage

696
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,720
Speaker 1: in the fourth At any time she attempted a takedown,

697
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 1: she got one, which is to say, she got one

698
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: of one in the first round, one of one in

699
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: the fourth round, one of two. But what I mean

700
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 1: to say is that she didn't go over in a

701
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: round where she at least attempted one takedown, she got

702
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 1: it so and then established almost a full minute of

703
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: control on top over four minutes. This was a This

704
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: was frankly quite academic. So let's talk about the fight

705
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 1: on this card that I know people want to talk

706
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 1: about more than anything else. Let's talk about Nick Diaz. Okay,

707
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 1: I man, I'm all over the place on this one.

708
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: All right, Robbie, here's the official result, Robbie lower rawl.

709
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:21,439
Speaker 1: Excuse me, Robbie Lawler defeats Nick Diaz. And I'm gonna

710
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: put this on one second. Here we go. Robbie Lawler

711
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,280
Speaker 1: defeats Nick Diaz via TKO retirement. When they say retirement,

712
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 1: they don't mean like he actually is done, although you

713
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 1: might end up seeing that. But when they say retirement,

714
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: that means he did not elect to continue at forty

715
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: four seconds of the third round. Okay, man, So let's

716
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 1: start a little bit back ahead. Okay, My timeline was

717
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: split on Twitter tonight. So half of my timeline thought

718
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: that he looked sad Nick Diaz, and they were kind

719
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 1: of watching through their fingers and they were kind of

720
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,720
Speaker 1: like bummed out by the whole thing. The other half,

721
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 1: and they go a few different shades, but the general

722
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: thing that unites them is they thought he was great.

723
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 1: They thought that was great. They thought that was hugely commendable.

724
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: So like, I have half my timeline being like, he

725
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: should retire, he's sad, And then I have another half

726
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 1: of my timeline being like that was awesome, Like that

727
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 1: was way better than it should have been. And then

728
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,280
Speaker 1: I had a bunch of people being like, oh, it's both.

729
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 1: Everyone is all over the place on this one. Here's

730
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 1: what I saw. I saw, And again I'm hearing from

731
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 1: people I'm working with limited information here. I am certain

732
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: we're going to find out things about Nick Das later on.

733
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: It's going to make me say, you know, we have

734
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: to update the analysis on this, right But from what

735
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: I know right now, we may have found out that

736
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 1: he was unable to train for up to only six

737
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 1: weeks with the fight, and I don't know what the

738
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,399
Speaker 1: reasons for that might be. But he did not looked

739
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 1: to be in tremendous physical condition, if I can just

740
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 1: be candid, didn't look terribly out of shape, but he

741
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 1: definitely looked a lot older, which of course the time

742
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 1: has passed, but I mean like he really was wearing it.

743
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 1: He looked very slow to me, very slow. I thought

744
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,760
Speaker 1: that he got warmed up by the second round. First

745
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 1: first half of the first round. He looked at me

746
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: like he was just underwater. Lawler came out hot. Lawler,

747
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 1: all those always comes out hot. But then he started

748
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 1: seeing Nick pulling off nice right hand both both shots

749
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 1: left and right to the body, beautiful right hooks to

750
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,720
Speaker 1: the body. He began to get a lot of straits

751
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,439
Speaker 1: and then hook combinations that by round two you begin

752
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: to see like three, four, five, six, seven punch combinations.

753
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 1: So like you did see on the good side, some

754
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 1: of the characteristic Diaz boxing for which he is quite

755
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 1: famous and has had some pretty spectacular wins. So like

756
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:58,959
Speaker 1: there was this mixed bag already right started a little

757
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 1: bit slow for him, picked it up, the combination started

758
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: to flow. He was landing, he was marking up Robbie Lawler.

759
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 1: He's still getting hit, you know, Robbi Lawler was always

760
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 1: in it, but he was doing his thing, even if

761
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: he looked a little bit out of shape. And I'm

762
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: not saying that he was. I don't know exactly what

763
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 1: kind of shape he was in. I'm just saying, like,

764
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: here's the thing, dude, Like we know that diz is

765
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: boxing isn't designed for like maximum power every time, but

766
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: it didn't look to me like his power carried to

767
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:25,759
Speaker 1: one eighty five. I didn't see really any evidence, Like, dude,

768
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:27,720
Speaker 1: you're up like two weight classes from where you fought

769
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: at various times in your career, and I just didn't

770
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 1: see a lot of evidence that that that was even

771
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: working for him in that way. And like, you know,

772
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,879
Speaker 1: we're not talking about Lawler, who's like is he even ranked.

773
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 1: I don't think he's even ranked, you know, so like

774
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: so like that just didn't work out for him. But

775
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,280
Speaker 1: as I mentioned, like, dude that when he was flowing,

776
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 1: he was flowing like that, and there was good punches

777
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 1: and in hard shots that he was landing. But the

778
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 1: problem was, man, he just couldn't get Lawler off of him.

779
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that Lawler didn't think anything of the

780
00:40:56,120 --> 00:40:58,320
Speaker 1: punching power, but it didn't really deter him. It didn't

781
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 1: back him up, It didn't send him really, it didn't

782
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 1: have him waiting too long on the outside. He kind

783
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: of just and both of them did it. Both of

784
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: them credit where it is due to legends. Kind of

785
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: just stood in front of him and it began to

786
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: wear him down. And Dude, the leg kicks he went

787
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: after him over and over and over again. It was

788
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: all basically went unchecked, and then he began to just

789
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: work the body a few times. There was a couple

790
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:22,279
Speaker 1: I think a bodykick and then a left hook to

791
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: the body that really hurt Diaz in that second or

792
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 1: third round where he was you could see him kind

793
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: of cald it together. Anyway, the fight eventually ends this way.

794
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 1: It was I have to go back and look, but

795
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: I think it was a body shot that or right

796
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 1: hand that dropped him. He goes to a knee. He

797
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,800
Speaker 1: didn't like drop like this, but he takes a knee

798
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 1: and then he kind of falls over. Lawler looks like

799
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: he's gonna follow for a second, doesn't let him backs out,

800
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,359
Speaker 1: so then the refereement can make him stand, and then

801
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 1: he declined to stand, and so they they waived it

802
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: that's the end of it. I don't begrudge him the

803
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 1: stoppage at all. Dude, you were off for almost seven years.

804
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: I don't know what kind of training environment that he's

805
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 1: going to get out of wherever the hell he was at.

806
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: If you don't want to take more abuse and you're

807
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 1: not in there to win beyond dealing with that, then

808
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 1: don't like. I don't people want to make character judgments

809
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,320
Speaker 1: about it. I don't like. I've like, I've seen prime

810
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 1: Nick Diaz. You know, his character cannot be questioned. Could

811
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,879
Speaker 1: you doubt his commitment to the fight game at this stage? Yes,

812
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: I think that's quite normal to do so, all the

813
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 1: more reason when he says he's had enough, to believe

814
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:33,399
Speaker 1: him he had enough. I don't have any issue with that.

815
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 1: That guy's bona fides are already written in stone. You

816
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: can't take it away from him. You can only say, like,

817
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: you know, how is he applying it at this stage?

818
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 1: And again, that to me seems very reasonable. But here

819
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: is the problem that I come up with. Now. I

820
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: can believe all the different arguments about Nick, I really can.

821
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: I can understand how you could look at that and

822
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 1: be like, dude, he was kind of flowing there for

823
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,919
Speaker 1: a while, because in certain stretches and for a little

824
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 1: while he was flowing, he was flowing. I can also

825
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: understand how you could look at that and say, Dude,

826
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: by the quality of the way in which he was finished,

827
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: that probably would have never happened in an earlier partner

828
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: his career, along with the weight, along with the movement

829
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 1: and the age and sort of the obvious physical decline,

830
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,879
Speaker 1: and you can get, you know, an uneasy feeling about

831
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,720
Speaker 1: him continuing and about what state he's in these days.

832
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 1: I can understand both of them. I think there's another piece,

833
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: though that's being lost. I think it was Connor Rebush.

834
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 1: I could be wrong about that, but I think he

835
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: had a piece on Blodielbo this week talking about how

836
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: DZ for a time was ahead of the game. There's

837
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 1: a few you know, with accurate Chris boxing and understanding

838
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 1: how those fundamentals could be brought to MMA and then

839
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 1: weaponizing Cardio on the way they were doing it, and

840
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: some of the training methods and the triathlons and everything else.

841
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 1: There's much more to the story. I'm grossly oversimplifying it,

842
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: but there was a time when the DZ brothers both

843
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 1: of them were kind of vanguards about new practices that

844
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,319
Speaker 1: the game had to catch up too. One of the

845
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: things I have not seen discussed that really sort of

846
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 1: stood out to me was that Diaz. Diaz's boxing is

847
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 1: quite good when he flowing, but his overall style seems

848
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: to me a little bit outdated. Why wouldn't it be

849
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 1: It hasn't really been updated in about seven years. This

850
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,839
Speaker 1: style he was using, I think ten years ago would

851
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 1: have been a lot more effective than it's going to

852
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 1: be today. Assuming that he continues, and I think he

853
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: will be I'm not saying he won't win. I don't

854
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: know what he's gonna do. I don't know who they're

855
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 1: gonna match him up with. I don't even know if

856
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 1: he's gonna fight again. Like I know he said he

857
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: would if he lost and whatever, But like that could

858
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: have been the last time we see Nick Diaz fight.

859
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: Who knows, who knows, who the hell knows. What I'm

860
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 1: trying to point out is he was very flat footed.

861
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 1: There was no checking of the kicks, there was no

862
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 1: real ability to take it to the ground. There's no

863
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: real willingness to take it to the ground. Part of

864
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 1: that's physical decline and tie off. By the way, he

865
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,319
Speaker 1: probably had ring Russ too, and all fairness to Nick,

866
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 1: I'm sure he had a substantial amount. But the flat

867
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 1: footedness with the sort of one note nature of the boxing,

868
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: as good as it might be, dude, that's not a

869
00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 1: very modern approach to the game. That is, like, you know,

870
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 1: in many ways, antithetical to everything you're seeing from some

871
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:59,200
Speaker 1: of the guys at the bleeding edge of strategic innovation

872
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 1: in the game. The game is all about, like a

873
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 1: high level of activity consistently in motion and movement and

874
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 1: creating opportunities through not really just the motion itself, but

875
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 1: the fainting with the motion and everything else. Like it

876
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 1: involves a sort of fairly dynamic process. Not everyone has

877
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: to fight that way, but the best strikers tend to have,

878
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,880
Speaker 1: whether they're bouncers or step in sliders, they tend to

879
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,879
Speaker 1: have that element. That element was just missing. I mean,

880
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,399
Speaker 1: Lawler in many ways just kind of accommodated him, although

881
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 1: he was pressing Diaz onto his heels rather than accepting

882
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 1: him pressing forward. But the idea is like at range,

883
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 1: they were so close to each other that one guy

884
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 1: was kind of they were, but they were accommodating each other,

885
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 1: I think is the fair way to put that. All

886
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:43,480
Speaker 1: I'm saying is, if you it's like a rorshack test, right,

887
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: use every guys doing what a rorshack test is. They

888
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,879
Speaker 1: show up a picture of like a bunny. It's kind

889
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,280
Speaker 1: of like, you know, almost like splashed on a page,

890
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 1: and they ask you what you see, and some people

891
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 1: see a bunny, some people see a duck, some people

892
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 1: see a fox or whatever the fuck they see, and

893
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: then whatever their answer is supposed to be some kind

894
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: of revelation about who they are. Think if you liked

895
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 1: some of the things you saw and you were pretty

896
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 1: pleased by it, I don't know that that's wrong. I

897
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 1: don't think that's wrong, but it probably says you're a

898
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 1: big nick DS fan. You're high on like Nick Diaz moments.

899
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: And there's not that I'm in judging in any way

900
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 1: judging it, but there probably tells you about the level

901
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 1: of nick DS fandom, I think. And again there's going

902
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:20,919
Speaker 1: to be fans who probably thought he didn't look great.

903
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:22,760
Speaker 1: But if you didn't think he looked great, there probably

904
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: is a degree of fandom that's absent. But I just

905
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: don't think should be lost. As if he is going

906
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 1: to continue the thing that really, I mean more than

907
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 1: just his physical size and his sort of lethargy in

908
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 1: terms of speed, it was how outdated the overall model

909
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:43,280
Speaker 1: of his game is relative to the challenges of modern mma.

910
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 1: To me, that frankly stood out the most of everything

911
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: I saw. That was what kind of bothered me a

912
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: little bit. It was that there are just certain he

913
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 1: moved in certain ways, and again six years off, thirty

914
00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: eight years old, and may have had poor training camp,

915
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: who knows, so all those factors are going to contribute,

916
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 1: But he was just moving in a way that like

917
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 1: the very best modern fighters would never dream of. That

918
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 1: you couldn't get away with it with the love fights

919
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: that they're in. And yes, I know that despite the

920
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 1: fact that Nick talk talks about fighting kamor Usban, he's

921
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 1: not going to. So I don't really know what to

922
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 1: say to about Nick again. I think if the UFC

923
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: can find an opponent for him that he wants to fight,

924
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 1: I think he has certainly earned the right to have

925
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 1: another one. The fact that he called it to me,

926
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 1: like the fact that he called the quits before he

927
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 1: took a glacious beating frankly works in his favor, to

928
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: be honest, because he you know, he got hit hard tonight,

929
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:40,399
Speaker 1: but he didn't take a tremendous like ass kicking, right,

930
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 1: So if he wants to get back out there in

931
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: you know, relatively short order and he can pass a

932
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: medical and whatever else, like yeah, okay, fine, like go

933
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 1: he's I didn't get the sense that, like, oh, he

934
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 1: has to retire tonight. I got the sense that, like,

935
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 1: there are probably a handful of fights of a level

936
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: that if both parties can uh find an agreement on that,

937
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 1: they could pursue something of a Legends tour, which I

938
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: know UFC is not particularly great about, but I think

939
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: they I think they could do that. I think that

940
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 1: that there's a there's a there's an opportunity there. But

941
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 1: beyond that, I don't know. I don't know where this

942
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 1: UFC Nick Diaz experiment really goes. Also, I would like

943
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:30,800
Speaker 1: to see him at one seventy. So again ring Rust

944
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 1: times one thousand, bad camp or whatever it was, Let's

945
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 1: say he can correct that with a camp that he

946
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 1: was proud of in terms of length and difficulty. Let's

947
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 1: say he can get down to one seventy. I think

948
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,879
Speaker 1: you might see a faster Nick. I think you might

949
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 1: see uh, you know, more dialed in Nick. He didn't

950
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: seem fully dialed in with everything here at this time.

951
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 1: Whatever the circumstances that might explain that, fair or unfair,

952
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: I think he showed enough for me. For me, I'm

953
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 1: confident in saying he's showed enough that depending on the matchmaking,

954
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 1: and again that Nick's gonna be a tough customer to

955
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:09,399
Speaker 1: get to agree to a deal. I think I think

956
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: there's a few fights they could probably figure out. Maybe

957
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: they could do Connor Masvidal, they could potentially do the

958
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 1: Masswedal wants. To me is kind of interesting because Nate

959
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:22,959
Speaker 1: seemed a little bit overpowered by both got both Nate

960
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 1: and Jorge Maswell used to fight at one fifty five

961
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 1: and now fight at one seventy. But like Masvidal is

962
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 1: like a pretty normal size welterweight, Nate was kind of

963
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 1: always a bit of a smaller ish welterweight, and I

964
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 1: think there was a physical difference you saw when they

965
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 1: when they fought. This one was a little bit, I

966
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: should say, Nick, I think would provide a much sterner challenge.

967
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 1: But you know, you have to say, like in fairness

968
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 1: to that fight. Lawler bought it, brought it completely. As

969
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 1: I mentioned, both guys accommodated each other with range. There

970
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 1: were long stretches of that fight where I mean, dude,

971
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 1: these guys, think about this for just a second. Robbie

972
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 1: Lawler and Nick Diaz made their pro day views before

973
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 1: nine to eleven. Before nine eleven, Like we just got

974
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,880
Speaker 1: out of Afghanistan. Everyone's talking about how long that was.

975
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 1: Those dudes started before the thing that started us to

976
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: get into Afghanistan to begin with. And they're fighting after

977
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 1: we're out of Afghanistan, Like you got to be kidding me,

978
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:21,439
Speaker 1: you know, And then they would fight with that kind

979
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 1: of ferocity and like phone booth fighting range. Dude, you

980
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: have to respect that. You have to respect that. You

981
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 1: have to take your hat off to them, Lawler and Diaz,

982
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 1: both of them. Did you know. I'm not saying this

983
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 1: is what the first fight should have been, because the

984
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 1: first fight's magic is I would never want to mess

985
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 1: with that. But I thought I thought both of them

986
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 1: made a I'll say this for sure. I thought both

987
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: of them gave what they probably had to give at

988
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: the stage, given the circumstances for a for a good

989
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: old fashioned, up close fist fight, high level, you know,

990
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 1: or to the level that they can produce. Obviously they're

991
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: you know, trained in, experienced professionals, but that's what I

992
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: would say. So to me, a lot of mixed feelings

993
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 1: about Diaz, A lot. I think it will depend on

994
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: when he gets back, who he gets back against, and

995
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: in what weight class. Don't want to see him at

996
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 1: one any five again, not like not under these conditions

997
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 1: where it's like fight week and I'm like, eh, can

998
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 1: you make one any five instead of one to seventy,

999
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,200
Speaker 1: because we don't want to cut weight, Like, you know,

1000
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 1: if that was anybody else, you'd be like, dude, that's

1001
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 1: red Flag city up in this bitch, what are y'all

1002
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:32,839
Speaker 1: talking about? So I'm not thrilled about what happened there

1003
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 1: in that sense, But however mixed it might have been,

1004
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 1: it was fun to see him back, and part of

1005
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 1: me even hopes he gets a second showing because I

1006
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 1: would like to see what a second go round after

1007
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 1: a long layoff might do for improvements. I don't want

1008
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 1: if he is this fast and he can't get to

1009
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 1: welter weight, then it just is what it is. I

1010
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 1: have a feeling that there's a chance to get this

1011
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 1: a little bit more tuned in to it, dialed in,

1012
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:06,600
Speaker 1: tuned up, and we can get a much better products

1013
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:08,720
Speaker 1: as a consequence, And I think he might be happier

1014
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 1: with some of the results as well, although well maybe not.

1015
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:12,399
Speaker 1: Who the fuck knows, you know, it's Nick Diaz, right,

1016
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 1: An interesting night for his return, an interesting night. Very

1017
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:22,800
Speaker 1: quickly Curtis blazed defeating Jerresenia rosenstrike thirty twenty seven across

1018
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:24,360
Speaker 1: the board. This is going to be the most forgotten

1019
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 1: fight maybe in UFC history. People didn't like the way

1020
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 1: it looked, and it happened before Nick Diaz fought. And

1021
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 1: then just go on drog and Cynthia Cavio keV Jo,

1022
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: however you want to call it. For fifty four of

1023
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 1: round number one, Androge is just a beast. Not only

1024
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: Couldes she hit incredibly hard, but she just is so

1025
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: physically sturdy that her contemporaries land on her clean Dude,

1026
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 1: Cynthia was landing on her cleanly, and she was just

1027
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 1: walking right through it like a terminator style. She must have.

1028
00:52:56,120 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 1: She's just so physically sturdy for that weight class that

1029
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 1: their punching power has a hard time mattering with somebody

1030
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 1: of her stature. It's it's it's ridiculous. Okay, do you

1031
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,480
Speaker 1: have a question for me? I put up a tweet.

1032
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 1: Let's see if we can get to him. Let's see,

1033
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 1: all right, here we go. Okay, now that Ortega has

1034
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 1: had two shots at the Featherway Belt, it will be

1035
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 1: difficult for him to be given another opportunity in the future.

1036
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:42,480
Speaker 1: You say that, but he's still well. I mean, I'll

1037
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 1: say this, as long as Max and Volkanovsky are up there, yes,

1038
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 1: but if that apple cart turns over over time, one

1039
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: never knows where does Ortega go from here. I don't

1040
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 1: I think he could stay there. I just think for

1041
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 1: the time being he gotta go back and take on

1042
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 1: easier opposition. Like beating Chance Sung Jung was nice. Getting

1043
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 1: the boost to the to the title shot was nice,

1044
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 1: but like, there's clearly some work to be done. He's

1045
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 1: very talented, he's incredibly tough, but there's some work to

1046
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 1: be done. Have you noticed a trunk movement that both

1047
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 1: Adasanya and Vulk used. I thought it was just Israel's thing,

1048
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 1: but I saw it from Vulk to tonight could be

1049
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,359
Speaker 1: a CKB thing without you're referencing exactly what you're talking about.

1050
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,839
Speaker 1: I need to see they both do have trunk movement,

1051
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: but I'm not sure what similarities you mean, like leaning

1052
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:32,879
Speaker 1: over with the hand fighting. There's a lot of that.

1053
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 1: Chances or Taga gets another title shot in the next

1054
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: two years. Man, I lived through Ryah favor getting a

1055
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: billion title shots. I would not be so surprised if

1056
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:48,200
Speaker 1: if he can remain popular. You never know. If Ortega

1057
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 1: takes a good chunk of time off and beats the

1058
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 1: a year after Max beats him, is he right back

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00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 1: at a position for a title shot if the timing

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00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 1: is right. I don't think you should tick a bunch

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00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: of time I mean time off to recover from this beating.

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00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 1: But like long stretches of your career, being lost to

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00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 1: recovery is not ideal. And by the way, I forgot

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00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 1: that Max has to fight. Ya ear Like, oh, you

1065
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:19,919
Speaker 1: guys want me to talk about the curse. Listen, I'm

1066
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:24,279
Speaker 1: not I'm not I'm not a teenager. I don't believe

1067
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:27,839
Speaker 1: in superstitious shit, Like, I don't know what y'all want

1068
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 1: me to say about it. Oh you guys fucking caused it,

1069
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 1: did we? Who endowed us with these powers to affect

1070
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 1: high level mixed martial arts outcomes and bouts. Who gave

1071
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 1: us this? How long does it last? Will it ever

1072
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,839
Speaker 1: be broken? What would break it? Why were we given this?

1073
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 1: Obviously there's a silly asked questions about a silly ass proposition.

1074
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:48,880
Speaker 1: If you wanted to say, is it fucking hilarious that

1075
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 1: every time you guys pick one they end up getting routed? Oh?

1076
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 1: Of course it's hysterical, It's super funny. But you know

1077
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 1: you want me to comment on like, like, Luke, what

1078
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 1: is what do you think about these people who handled

1079
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 1: snakes and lived like? Clearly they must they're onto something. No,

1080
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:12,560
Speaker 1: they just handle snakes like uh, Volkanovski survived a life

1081
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 1: threatening bout of COVID and just delivered one of the

1082
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 1: most one of the performances of the year ten and

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00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 1: Zer now you have seen in his face of murders row.

1084
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 1: Where does he sit in your pound of pound rankings?

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00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 1: I don't do pound for pound rankings, but I will

1086
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 1: tell you in terms of like, when I think about smart,

1087
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 1: sophisticated fighters who are ahead of their peers, not just

1088
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 1: like I'm better than the number two guy in the division,

1089
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:35,319
Speaker 1: but like the things that I do as a process

1090
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 1: are just better than the processes of my peers as

1091
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 1: innovators and whatnot. He's he's top three in the UFC.

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00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:49,359
Speaker 1: Someone says that Nick das train it all for this fight.

1093
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,319
Speaker 1: I'm sure he did on some level. Thoughts on Paul

1094
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 1: Felder and Vittoria exchanging tweets during the broadcast, I mean

1095
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:59,200
Speaker 1: everyone loved it because Vittori got dunked on by Paul

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00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 1: Felder and Paul was a great commentator. I don't share

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00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 1: Victory's view about him at all. But the other part

1098
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 1: is it's like, dude, you know UFC fighters are they

1099
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 1: searching their own names? Or someone must have tagged him

1100
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 1: in that thing. It's like, I wish we lived in

1101
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 1: a world where like every time someone said something else

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00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 1: unflattering about someone else, the world didn't die over it

1103
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 1: in MMA, but that's not the world we live in.

1104
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 1: Was Vulk tiring in around five? I tend to think

1105
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 1: he wasn't. Again, I have to go back and look,

1106
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 1: but I tend to think he was doing more take

1107
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 1: out favor. What does the UFC deserve the same amount

1108
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:41,360
Speaker 1: of criticism that Triller got for letting someone like Diaz

1109
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,880
Speaker 1: holy Field take a fight. Who holy Field is fifty

1110
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Speaker 1: fucking nine? What are you talking about? That triangle was tight?

1111
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 1: How on earth did Vulk get out of it? He

1112
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 1: found just enough air to not get put out and

1113
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 1: then to turn inside of it to undo it. But

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00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 1: that's the most insane oversimplification of one of the most

1115
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 1: difficult things I've ever seen. It's like, oh, how do

1116
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 1: those guys you know not drown? Oh they just held

1117
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 1: their breath a really long time. But you know what

1118
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 1: does that tell you? Nothing? The head butt? I need

1119
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 1: to go back and see it. How much do you

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Speaker 1: think the COVID elimination approach taken by Australia New Zealand

1121
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 1: has hampered City Kickboxing's momentum. Adasania and hook are like

1122
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 1: to be relatively active. We have a lottery for our

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Speaker 1: spots in our returnee managed isolation, and our lockdowns are

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00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 1: the strictest. Yeah, those lockdown policies in New Zealand and Australia,

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Speaker 1: they are They would never work here. The Australians and

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Speaker 1: the Key we seem to have a different relationship to

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00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 1: their government. They're a little bit more trusting of it

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Speaker 1: than ours would be. But they are punishing. Lockdowns may

1129
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 1: or may not work. Well, there's some evidence that they work,

1130
00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:55,800
Speaker 1: but in the sense of containing spreads. But at the

1131
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 1: same time, the I mean, you're talking about taking a

1132
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 1: hammer to problem that may need a scalpol Like Jesus Christ,

1133
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:06,480
Speaker 1: they are you know, you guys know my positions on

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00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 1: vaccination and COVID mitigation. I tend to be one of

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00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 1: the more vocal proponents of both of them, but even

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00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 1: I can recognize that some of the things that is

1137
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 1: happening in those two countries can carry significant costs on

1138
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 1: people's lives and force them to rethink their relationship to

1139
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:27,920
Speaker 1: living there. Valentina too big to go down to one

1140
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Speaker 1: fifteen probably, Oh. Joe Musso asked a question opening odds

1141
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 1: for Paul Diaz. Now Diaz would still fuck Paul up.

1142
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Speaker 1: Who do you think would be Vulk's hardest night out?

1143
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 1: Having seen tonight's action, Still Max? Still Max? If Max

1144
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 1: wins the trilogy, does Vulk get the immediate rematch? You

1145
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 1: might see these guys fight four or five times. Yes,

1146
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 1: But where does Volkanowski rank among all time great featherweights? Well,

1147
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 1: he beat two of the very best. I don't I'm

1148
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 1: not sure about these questions because they rely on a

1149
01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 1: body of work and he doesn't have quite as much

1150
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 1: of that. It's some others, But obviously in terms of talent,

1151
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 1: he's extraordinary. What do I door dash from changs? Oh?

1152
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 1: You rascal? Does someone outside of Max have the potential

1153
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 1: to take out volk I've been thinking Josh Emmitt's an

1154
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 1: interesting character, but who knows where he's at these days

1155
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 1: with his time off and injuries. Have we been sleeping

1156
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 1: on city kickboxing? I've been telling you, bitches for a

1157
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:43,720
Speaker 1: long time. You've been sleeping on city kickboxing? You know

1158
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like these dudes in this tiny, tiny

1159
01:00:48,200 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 1: nation are flying around the earth in Dan Hooker's case,

1160
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:56,200
Speaker 1: on short notice and fucking people up. Man. You know,

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01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 1: volkanovski situation is a little bit more expansive than just

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01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 1: city kickboxing. Oh pretty impressive. Would you think of the

1163
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:09,480
Speaker 1: Morob Morice stop? It seemed like Keith gave Morob a

1164
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 1: big chance, so we felt like he had to give

1165
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 1: Marlon one as well. I could have been stopped earlier

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01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 1: for me. That's a tough loss. That's that does a

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01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 1: bad loss for Marlin Morice. I don't know if he'll

1168
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 1: get bounced from the UFC, but he might. And more

1169
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:23,160
Speaker 1: to the point, he had a chance to win. That

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01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 1: was his only window because Moris doesn't have a great

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01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 1: gas tank anyway, and Morob's is the best, maybe ever

1172
01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 1: in all of the UFC, and he weaponizes it. And

1173
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 1: once at once Morice was like drained but not totally out.

1174
01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 1: He was never going to get back into it like that.

1175
01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:45,920
Speaker 1: There was no going back at that point. That's a

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01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 1: bad loss. I hate to say it, but that's a

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01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 1: bad loss. Does Ortega not go to his BJJ enough? Right?

1178
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Speaker 1: Here's a great way to understand this. It's quite so simple,

1179
01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 1: but it's a helpful method of understanding it. Oh, you

1180
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:06,400
Speaker 1: might be getting some smooth buffering. Hang on, hang on,

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01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 1: let me turn this off. There we go, see if

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01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 1: that helps. I don't think the stream has ended. I

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01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 1: hope to not see a stream that's ended. Let's see here.

1184
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 1: I might have just ended it. No YouTube studio, Hang on, guys,

1185
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 1: let me get this fixed. This computer is like having issues,

1186
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:32,320
Speaker 1: so I gotta switch to my other one. Here we are,

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Speaker 1: There we go, there we go. Okay, let's see here. Yeah,

1188
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 1: it's gonna I'm doing the best I can with the smoothness.

1189
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 1: I don't know what to tell you. Let's go back

1190
01:02:51,400 --> 01:03:01,160
Speaker 1: to the question, ons right, we can call it there

1191
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:04,520
Speaker 1: with the tech issues and everything else. In the time,

1192
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:05,960
Speaker 1: it's two twenty in the morning. What the fuck am

1193
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 1: I doing with my life? All right? Let me just

1194
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 1: say this, thanks to everyone who Oh, you know what,

1195
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 1: I'll go to one more. I'll go to one more.

1196
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 1: Thoughts on a chef Chenko Nuna's trilogy needs to happen.

1197
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 1: What else are we waiting on? At this point? Nunas

1198
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 1: has no incentive to take it, but it would be

1199
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Speaker 1: the most important fight they could do. Is chill Son

1200
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:37,360
Speaker 1: and right to say BJJ isn't useful or worth the

1201
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 1: investment in ultra elite level MMA sort of. It's one

1202
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 1: of those. It's a complicated answer for the majority of

1203
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:48,960
Speaker 1: people spending the majority of their time or a huge

1204
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:51,800
Speaker 1: portion of it learning that versus other skills may not

1205
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:54,520
Speaker 1: pay off, But when that happens, that's going to leave

1206
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:56,960
Speaker 1: a gap in the marketplace where other people. They can

1207
01:03:57,040 --> 01:03:59,920
Speaker 1: then fill it by doing the exact opposite and then

1208
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:04,440
Speaker 1: leveraging that over their opponents. It probably doesn't work as

1209
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:07,640
Speaker 1: well as it should. Top five ish, but you can

1210
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 1: get pretty far with it, right. Was that the best

1211
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 1: goddamn fight you ever watched? No, it's pretty good. How

1212
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:25,800
Speaker 1: many pay per view buys does Nick versus Connor do?

1213
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:28,840
Speaker 1: Probably still does a million because of the star power.

1214
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:30,680
Speaker 1: But I wouldn't want to. I mean, they might do

1215
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:41,480
Speaker 1: it about well one seventy I could stomach it. Did

1216
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 1: Volkanovski prove jiu jitsu isn't real? No, quite the opposite.

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01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 1: You'll you'll never see anybody you might again, you might

1218
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:53,080
Speaker 1: never see anyone in Mma do what he did tonight.

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01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 1: That's how rare it is to prove that it doesn't

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01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 1: work in the way in which the spirit of the

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01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:01,680
Speaker 1: question implies, means that not only Couldvolkanowski do it, but

1222
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:04,440
Speaker 1: he could teach everyone else to or wide swaths of

1223
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:08,280
Speaker 1: people to do that. No, he couldn't. No, he couldn't.

1224
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Speaker 1: So it's quite real. Uh okay, I appreciate you guys watching.

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01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 1: Let's do this real quick. Remember Monday at eleven am

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Speaker 1: in the East me Brian Campbell you we're gonna go

1227
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Speaker 1: over everything, all the stuff that I missed. We have

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Speaker 1: an announcement about something else we're bringing to the channel.

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01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 1: Remember the live Chat has been taken away. I will

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01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 1: have an announcement about something I'm bringing over to the

1231
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:36,120
Speaker 1: channel on Monday, which I think you're gonna want to hear.

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Speaker 1: So uh yeah, a lot to get to like the

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Speaker 1: video hit subscribe. Thank you guys so much for watching it.

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Speaker 1: Until next time, May all of your ex lovers be satisfied.

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Speaker 1: As Brian Campbell I'd say,