1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: Who baby A baby? I need you, Oh how I 2 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: need you? What do you expect? As a production of 3 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio, I'm your host Heidi Murkoff and I'm 4 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 1: a mom on a mission, a mission to help you 5 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: know what to expect every step of the way. I 6 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: ever wished the moms around the world, or at least 7 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: around the country. I've had that recurring day dream for 8 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 1: years now. It goes something like this. If moms ran 9 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: the world, we'd have health care for everyone. No pregnancy 10 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: would go uncared for, No child would go to sleep hungry, 11 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 1: No parent would have to work three jobs to keep 12 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: a roof over their family's head, or choose between paying 13 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: the rent or paying for prescriptions. And no mom would 14 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: have to choose between nurturing her newborn and going without 15 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: a paycheck. So far, my dream hasn't quite come true, 16 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: but with more moms than ever running for office in 17 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: the US, we are getting closer with every election. Moms 18 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: like Kirsten gila Brand. She's been serving for fourteen years, 19 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 1: first in the U. S. House of Representatives and now 20 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:18,919 Speaker 1: is the junior Senator from New York, my first home state, 21 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: and she has served even longer as a mom to 22 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: sixteen year old Theo and twelve year old Henry. Oh 23 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: and by the way, no big deal. She recently ran 24 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: for president. I am so excited to welcome Senator Kristin Jilbrand. 25 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us today. Thank you, Heidie. 26 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 1: It's my pleasure. So first things first, we all know 27 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: that moms are amazing at multitasking. But I gotta ask, 28 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: is it true that you spent twelve hours on the 29 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: floor of the House debating a farm bill the day 30 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: before you went into labor with Henry? Is that a 31 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: new d I Y technique that I should be adding 32 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: to what to expect when you're expecting. Well, it's sort 33 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: of true. I was in an armed services markup for 34 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: the twelve hours before I went into labor, and so 35 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: it starts at nine am and it goes usually till midnight. 36 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: But I told the chairman in advanced I was gonna 37 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: leave at nine pm because I knew that I was 38 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: not staying awake past nine pm, because it was do 39 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: with like in a few days. And so I was 40 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: so uncomfortable all day long, and I was clearly having 41 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: early labor trash. It's oh my goodness. And so I 42 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 1: got home and I went to bed, and sure enough, 43 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: my water broke at one am that morning, so I 44 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 1: was an early labor all day long. Yeah, that was 45 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: good timing because it could have it could have broken 46 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 1: on you know, the floor. And I actually went to 47 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: a Hillary fundraiser on the way home, so I not 48 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: only did my arm services markup, but then I stopped 49 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: at Hillary's event just to say hello, and then head 50 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: at home. It was in bed by ten o'clock. Okay, 51 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: because you just had to add another layer of moms 52 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 1: another thing that day. Yes, I always say it takes 53 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: the mom to get a mom right. And how has 54 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: been a mom yourself and getting what moms go through 55 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: every day in this country, How does it helped shape 56 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: your policy priorities. Well, it's not a surprise that I'm 57 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: the leading sponsor in the Senate on national paid leave. UM. 58 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: I personally know know how important it is that parents 59 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: have a chance to bond with their newborns, their new 60 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: adopted children. UM. Parents need to be with children when 61 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: they're sick or ill, or have a diagnosis and hospitalization. UH. 62 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: Individuals need to be with their spouses when their spouse 63 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: is sick or unable to work. And needs care at home. 64 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: So I know as a mom and as a wife 65 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: that uh and as a daughter that our families are 66 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: important and that we have to be able to make 67 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: time for them to spend important time during these moments 68 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: in people's lives that everybody has. And so we have 69 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: moved the ball significantly on paid family leave. It was 70 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: a non issue when we started advocating it, probably I 71 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: don't know what was eight years ago, and now not 72 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: only is it debated in every presidential debate, there's multiple 73 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: ideas about how to do it. And I really believe 74 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 1: that if Joe Biden is elected president, we will sign 75 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: a national paid lead bill in his first hundred days. 76 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: Like I really feel like this time has come and 77 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: parents desperately need this support for when they have new 78 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: children and newborn children, or when their parents are ill 79 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 1: and dying. They need this flexibility, and every other industrialized 80 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: country in the world has it. So we are so 81 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,239 Speaker 1: far behind everyone else I know, and that that holds 82 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 1: true for a lot of policies. I got to say, 83 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 1: and I just read today that France added twenty eight 84 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 1: days of paid leave for fathers and mandated that our 85 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: bill is gender neutral. So any parent can take up 86 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:01,479 Speaker 1: to three months paid um and they'd get sixty six 87 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: percent of their salary. And it's an earned benefit everybody 88 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: would buy and across their lifetime. So it's always there 89 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: for you, and it's there for you for all life events, 90 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: whether it's a dying parent or a new baby exactly. 91 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 1: And I feel like I've never met a mom who 92 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:18,919 Speaker 1: would say we don't need family paid family leave. I 93 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: doubt every parent, but especially parents who have to work 94 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: extra hard, and it's taking that time away from their 95 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: jobs so they can nurture their babies super important. What 96 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 1: inspired you to run for office in the first place, Well, 97 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 1: it was really my grandmother. Um. She was a woman 98 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: who never had the opportunity to go to college and 99 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: worked in our state legislature as a secretary. And she 100 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: was smart enough as a young grandma to take me 101 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: to events and to campaign headquarters and rallies, and so 102 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: I really loved politics, and so I knew that it 103 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:56,920 Speaker 1: was a way to be heard. It was a way 104 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: to lift up the voices of my community, people who 105 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: were being listened to. And I always aspired to public service, 106 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: and so after I spent about a decade in the 107 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: law as about a decade working on other people's campaigns, 108 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: I finally had the courage to run. But it was 109 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: definitely the lessons of my grandmother and my mother, UM, 110 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: daring me to be different, daring me to try to 111 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 1: do hard things, to not give up. And so when 112 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: I first ran for office, it was in my home 113 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: district to to one Republican district, and I ran despite 114 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 1: all odds and I did win. So miracles can happen, 115 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:32,919 Speaker 1: and I had a lot of help, and it was 116 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 1: one of those wave elections where people got elected across 117 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: the country. That's awesome. Now you don't have daughters, you 118 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: have sons, But do you feel you're instilling that same 119 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 1: lesson to them that your grandmother and mother instilled in you. 120 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:50,799 Speaker 1: I'm certainly trying. Um it's my My oldest is sixteen 121 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 1: and my youngest is twelve and are basically both teenagers. 122 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: So do they listen to mom at all? Not a lot. 123 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:00,679 Speaker 1: But I keep trying to instill in the the values 124 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: that I hold. Most year, I think it'll stick. It's 125 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 1: one of those things that you don't know at I 126 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: can only hope. I can only hope. So we've touched 127 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 1: a little bit on paid family leave, and for me, 128 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: I always ask this question over and over again because 129 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: I can't understand what the answer could be. But why 130 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: do we in the US make it just so hard 131 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: to be a parent in every way possible? I think 132 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: it's really simple. I think it's because not enough women 133 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: are elected to office. We only have approximately women in Congress, 134 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: and until we get to fifty one percent, I don't 135 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 1: think we're going to have the family friendly policies that 136 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: we deserve. We don't have paid leave, we don't have 137 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 1: equal pay for equal work, we don't have affordable daycare, 138 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: we don't have universal pre k UM, we don't have 139 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: a family Bill of Rights, which is one thing I 140 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: worked on on the presidential campaign and rolled it out 141 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: with lots of ideas about how to really make UM 142 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: it possible for people to provide for their family and 143 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: and be good parents at the same time. So, uh, 144 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: these are things that need leaders, and I think, uh, 145 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: if we can elect more women UM and more parents, 146 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: I think we'll have a better shot at it. I 147 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: could not agree more. One of those issues also that 148 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 1: I think impacts women more is health care. And the 149 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: last time that we saw each other was actually at 150 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: a Mother's Day. Then we were all trying to protect 151 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: the Affordable Care Act. Yes, I remember, and especially as 152 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: it relates to pregnant women, to moms, there are still 153 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: threats to that Affordable Care Act. Can you just tell 154 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: us a little bit about what is at stake, what 155 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: the risks are, what the threats are, and who they 156 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: might affect. Most were most concerned about health caare in 157 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: this debate about the next Supreme Court justice, because if 158 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: in fact, Trump decides to place a new justice who's ultraconservative, 159 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 1: there's a decision going to happen in November that if 160 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: it goes the wrong way, the Affordable Care Act will 161 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: be removed and they will no longer be a requirement 162 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: that you cover all people, even if you have pre 163 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: existing conditions. And so a lot of people's health care 164 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: is going to be a grave risk with potentially ultra 165 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: conservative justice to replace Justice Ginsburg. I also believe healthcare 166 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: is on the ballot. I think if you vote for 167 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 1: Joe Biden, then healthcare will become a right, not a privilege. 168 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 1: It will be guaranteed for all Americans. I believe if 169 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: you vote for President Trump, he will dismantle the Affordable 170 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: Care Act brick by brick until no one has guaranteed access. 171 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: And I think a lot of women don't realize. Um. 172 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: First of all, there's the contraception that's covered under the 173 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 1: A C A, which can be quite unaffordable and not 174 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:09,559 Speaker 1: accessible otherwise. For instancean i UD costs like nine dollars, 175 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: and under the Affordable Care Act it could be free, 176 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: and birth control for a year cost a hundred hundred 177 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 1: fifty dollars two hundred dollars depending on what your co 178 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: pay is exactly. And I think something else they don't 179 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 1: realize is that before the a C A. And this 180 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: happened to me because I got pregnant, I didn't have 181 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: health insurance. We had just gotten married. I wasn't under 182 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 1: Eric's plan, and so we were faced with like do 183 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: we pay for pregnancy out of pocket or do we 184 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: lie about the dates and try to get some health insurance, 185 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: which we ultimately did. But that pregnancy was a pre 186 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: existing condition, like you could not get care if you 187 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: were pregnant. It's outrageous. I mean it's outrageous. It's about humanity, 188 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: like about humanity, and also it's about cost, like what 189 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: is the cost of prenatal care versus the cost of 190 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: a nick you stay, or preterm birth or all the 191 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: other complications. So even if you're not particularly compassionate about 192 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: pregnant women, you should want to if you're concerned about 193 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: the bottom line. Yeah, exactly. And with the say Medicaid expansion, 194 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 1: it's still not in fourteen states, and that means that 195 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: pregnant women their care, their prenantal care lapses at two 196 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: months after delivery. That's outrageous and that leaves so many 197 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: vulnerable women at risk, not just for pregnancy complications that 198 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: might go on diagnosed, but also for postportum depression. I 199 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: loved your first one Days plan. Yeah, that was so 200 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: just tell us what your wishless for maternal health care 201 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: would be. So from a ternel healthcare, I had this 202 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:54,559 Speaker 1: Family Bill of Rights and I looked at what it's 203 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 1: what does it mean to be in a family and 204 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: to be a parent, and what are all the areas 205 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: where our system is lacking. And so starting from the beginning, first, 206 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: mandatory insurance coverage for prenatal care, for adoption, for IVF, 207 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: if you are having trouble conceiving tax credits for lower 208 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 1: income parents, um ability of LGBT couples to adopt. Uh, 209 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: those are all like everyone should be as a human 210 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: right able to become a parent. Then second, let's make 211 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 1: sure the baby survives. Every baby that comes home would 212 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: get a baby bundle. It would be a box that 213 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: could be used as a crib, that has swaddling cloth, formula, 214 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: diaper like in Finland, and you take that box home 215 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: and that's gonna hopefully save your child's life in the 216 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 1: first month or two. Third, national pay leave because we 217 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:50,719 Speaker 1: don't have it. Fourth um universal pre K because it's 218 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: a whole year that a parent could be working, if 219 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: their child could be in school. And we know every 220 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: dollar you put into early childhood education is worth at 221 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 1: least eleven dollars in that of lifetime in terms of 222 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: ability to impact the economy. And then affordable daycare so 223 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: that we actually can subsidize daycare of this country, make 224 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 1: it more affordable and higher quality so every worker can 225 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: have access to high quality, affordable daycare. And then one 226 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: more maternal mortality, making sure you survive delivery. And if 227 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: you're a black woman this country, you're four times more 228 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: likely to die in childbirth within a year of giving 229 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: birth because of all the institutional racism in our health 230 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: care system. So we would create these maternity kits where 231 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: every emergency room, every delivery room would have a tray 232 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 1: of all the equipment that's needed when a woman begins 233 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: to bleed out, or when her blood pressure crashes, or 234 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 1: all these different things when sometimes they're not prepared, uh, 235 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: they don't have the tools on hand to actually save 236 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: her life. We also will educate doctors and nurses to 237 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: understand what unconscious or other bias might look like, so 238 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: that they when a black woman says they don't feel right, 239 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,079 Speaker 1: you leave her and you don't say, oh, you're fine, huntey, 240 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: you just had a baby, when she's actually bleeding at 241 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: or her blood pressures crashing. Those are the things we 242 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: want to guarantee you. We want to make sure every 243 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: person can survive childbirth, that we can survive the first 244 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 1: few months, that you could provide for your kids in 245 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: the first few years. If we had that as a country, 246 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:20,040 Speaker 1: we'd be much healthier and much happier. We'd be much 247 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: more successful as well. We have a better economy. Absolutely. 248 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: You know, the CDC recently launched they Hear Her campaign, 249 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: which I'm sure you're participating in, but It's basically that 250 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: you have to listen when moms speak. When you feel 251 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: something is wrong, when you feel something, say something, but 252 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: it doesn't help. I was just having a conversation with 253 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: a black mom last night. She was feeling She actually 254 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 1: described it, I feel like I'm dying to the doctor 255 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: and they said, well, you know, you don't. That's pregnancy. 256 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: You know, you feel like you're dying. Sometimes it's outrageous, 257 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: like that poor woman and she lost the baby because 258 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: it was a kidney infection. Those are very in cities. 259 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 1: You don't necess theyre only no, you can't put your 260 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: finger on it. You just feel terrible. And nobody listened 261 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: to her, and nobody listened to her, and no one 262 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: tested her. It's just I hope I hope she gets 263 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: some measure of justice for that. These these messages all 264 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: the time, and it's just heartbreaking. It's so unnecessary, and 265 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: it tells us so much about the inherent bias, and 266 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: not just in the healthcare system, but especially in maternal health. 267 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: There are also gaps in rural care. Right for Moss. 268 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: I saw a lot of that when I was in 269 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: Iowa and other rural areas in the country. I met 270 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: with moms who had to drive forty miles just to 271 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: get a doctor's appointment, um or to deliver their baby. 272 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: Imagine going into childbirth and having a forty forty minute drive. 273 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: But what had happened in that state is they just 274 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: kept it's not not funding maternal care, and they closed 275 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 1: maternity wards, they fired obstetricians. They just didn't have the 276 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: care local. So one of the things that we worked 277 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: on was a bill that Hide Hyde Camp originally wrote 278 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: from North Dakota, and it's called the Rural Moms Act, 279 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: and that basically developed better training to run rural health facilities, 280 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: fix the shortage by making it easier and cheaper to 281 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: train new O, B, G, Y N, s UM and 282 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: created resources for rural maternal care. So what did exist 283 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: could get the resources they need to be to be 284 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: able to offer the care they need. Yeah, and we 285 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: probably need better broadband access so we can do more 286 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: telehealth and maybe mobile units from maternity care. Yeah. Yeah, 287 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: and just better training. So if there is like just 288 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: I say, the closest is just a community health center 289 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: that they have someone on staff who is knowledgeable on 290 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: obstetrics and maternal care, so that in an emergency, there's 291 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: somewhere to go. For some reason, we always put moms last, 292 00:16:56,000 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: and we seem to totally moms of color last last. Yeah, 293 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: double us. And it's again that's why we need more 294 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: women in Congress, more women of color in Congress. We 295 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 1: need our government to look like us. We need to 296 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,879 Speaker 1: have of women represented across the board and all levels 297 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 1: of government, and then our healthcare would be relevant. A 298 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: lot of men just don't understand what it means not 299 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: to have an O, B G. Y and unit within 300 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 1: fifty miles of your home, Like that's a problem. It 301 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 1: wouldn't even care. So these are the kinds of things. 302 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: We need more women to run for governor. We need 303 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 1: more women to run for Senate and House. Hopefully we'll 304 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:37,959 Speaker 1: have a woman president some day that will matter. So 305 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 1: we just have to keep working on towards it all 306 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 1: of us. You've been a long time champion of military 307 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 1: families and service members, and recently you co sponsored the 308 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: Tricare Coverage for Dulah Support Act with Senator bluementhal I 309 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: actually brought them the idea of Dulah's for military families 310 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:01,639 Speaker 1: being covered by Trycare because I see so many military 311 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 1: moms who don't get support. They're serving so far from 312 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 1: their family and their friends and their network of support, 313 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 1: you know, so doulas would be an important missing link 314 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: in that care. You know that they could fill um 315 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 1: so that even if a partner's deployed or your mom, 316 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: especially now during COVID, have someone to be at the 317 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: delivery exactly. Yeah, I think that's super smart. Yeah, that's 318 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 1: why I'm on the bill. It reduces costs totally and 319 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: risks to the mother's life exactly, and the baby's left. Yes, 320 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 1: we talk a lot about supporting the troops. It's you know, 321 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: a bumper stick or the mantra. But I feel, and 322 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: I know you feel, that it's just as important to 323 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: support the families who are actually serving with them. Absolutely, 324 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 1: it's a sacrifice they all make. So what are some 325 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 1: ways you think we could better support military families. First 326 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: of all, one of the challenges when your spouse gets deployed. 327 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: You might be the middle of school, or you might 328 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 1: be have a great job, and so there so many 329 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:03,679 Speaker 1: logistical challenges. So we want to make it easier for 330 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: spouses to be able to work in their new deployed area. 331 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:11,960 Speaker 1: So a couple of things helping them transfer whatever their 332 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:16,959 Speaker 1: educational and certifications are to new jurisdictions, so making that 333 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: more streamlined. We also need to make sure that they 334 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 1: have access to affordable daycare um so that spouses when 335 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: they do get to a new place, they can actually 336 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 1: continue to work or work outside the home because daycare 337 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 1: is provided. We need safe housing. We've had hearing after 338 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 1: caring about housing that had vermin roaches, um mold is 339 00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: so disgusting, and so guaranteeing safe, affordable housing for all 340 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: members of the military, and then making sure that communities 341 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,719 Speaker 1: where our military bases are get impacted because impact date 342 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: is actually what funds the school system and the daycare 343 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: system and any other system that that family needs to access. 344 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 1: So we want to make sure we actually fund the 345 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: communities where our bases are located. And you know, because 346 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,240 Speaker 1: I talked to so many military moms, I hear not 347 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: just our stories a bad housing, but I also hear 348 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 1: about the wait list for tildcare. You mentioned that there 349 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 1: are wait lists of eighteen months, so it's what your 350 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: PCs ng again by the time you get your town care. 351 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 1: It's not fair. It's solely on I mean, and it's 352 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 1: it's a it's a lack of valuing of a spouse 353 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,719 Speaker 1: that that spouse has to take what he or she 354 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:34,639 Speaker 1: gets regardless, and that whether they want to be employed 355 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:38,159 Speaker 1: or not is irrelevant whether they have a profession. Making 356 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 1: sure that when a spouse gets transferred that the other 357 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 1: spouse can stay to finish out a school term, or 358 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: to finish out a job, or finish out of kids 359 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: school train and so that the spouses can separate, one 360 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,959 Speaker 1: can move for three months earlier before the other, depending 361 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 1: on which one it is. So I think we got 362 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 1: part of that in the bill, but that was specifically 363 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: because they get no notice, and you might be a 364 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: teacher teaching a semester or your kids in school and 365 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: you don't want to disrupt them in the school year. Like, 366 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: there's a lot of real considerations that you should give 367 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: families before you move them, and we tried to highlight that. 368 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's in the final bill, but 369 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: that's something I'm working onto. There's so much more to do, 370 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I actually I also suggested that that try 371 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: care to cover the training of spouses to become dulas, 372 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 1: because that way take that skill wherever they went totally 373 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 1: and allow spouses to work in daycare centers to provide 374 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:40,679 Speaker 1: seven care that's needed, and then the on site training 375 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: so they can become professionals in those daycare center. Absolutely 376 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: so they should. It just should be all set up 377 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,360 Speaker 1: in every place where we send our troops that spouses 378 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: who want to work and don't have a job can 379 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: work in daycare centers and work um as, dulas and 380 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: other other jobs that they will always be able to do. 381 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: Exactly its fry in the world now, so my mom's 382 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 1: around the world. I remember just before the sixteen election, Um, 383 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,719 Speaker 1: you moderated a panel that I was on, and you 384 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 1: asked me what would be my elevator speech to a 385 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 1: mom if she happened to come on the elevator with 386 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: a stroller about why she should vote, or maybe you 387 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: might have said how she should vote or who she 388 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 1: should vote for. I said, it's easy, because I would 389 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: just tell her to vote for those who vote for 390 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: you and for your family, for those policies that matter 391 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 1: to you. And four years later, we've launched a campaign 392 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 1: called Mom the Vote with What to Expect and With 393 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 1: What to Expect project, and basically it is nonpartisan, but 394 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: the idea is to engage and inspire moms to vote 395 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: and to vote for those who vote for You care 396 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,120 Speaker 1: about moms, which is great exactly because too many moms 397 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 1: sit the process out. Yeah, and they don't know what 398 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: they're elected leaders think about these issues. And they need 399 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:12,120 Speaker 1: to know because there's a big difference between the various 400 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: paid league plans out there. I mean, the one that 401 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 1: Jody Earnst and someone else UM support basically says, if 402 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 1: you want paid leave, you've got to draw down your 403 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 1: social security. Well, you're gonna need that social security when 404 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: you hit sixty five or sixty seven, like you're gonna 405 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:31,639 Speaker 1: need it. Choose, choose your child or your senior life. 406 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,080 Speaker 1: And it's and it's really gonna harm women because they 407 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: have less money saved away in social security anyway, because 408 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:40,399 Speaker 1: they tend to have um chopped up work life, and 409 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,359 Speaker 1: they earn less. They don't earn a dollar on the 410 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: dollar that white men earn, so they're already screwed in 411 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 1: their social security. So drawing down is not smart, whereas 412 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,160 Speaker 1: an earned benefit means everyone buys it and it's there 413 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 1: for men and women, it's there for all families, and 414 00:23:55,000 --> 00:24:00,360 Speaker 1: that matters. And I'm just gonna say all these things right, 415 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: It's it's not rocket science. So I always say knowledge 416 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 1: is power. It's especially empowering when you're pregnant, you're a 417 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: new mom. That knowledge voting is also power, and an 418 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 1: informed vote, just like you said, is the most powerful 419 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: of all. So what would you like moms and dad's 420 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 1: to know that so they could be better informed, inspired, 421 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: and energized about the importance of voting. I'm turning the 422 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: question back to you if you're in the elevator. So 423 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: there's two things I want everyone to know about the 424 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 1: moment we're in. Number One, they have to fill out 425 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 1: their senses for him, because the census forms determine how 426 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 1: much money your city, your state gets for all the 427 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 1: social programs that we're talking about today. Number two, make 428 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 1: sure you vote, have a plan, make sure you're registered. 429 00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: If you want to vote by mail, vote by mail 430 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:50,160 Speaker 1: early so gets there on time and can be counted. Um, 431 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 1: just make sure your voice is counted and you know, 432 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: just create your plan and do it now. And if 433 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 1: you want to vote by mail, get your absolute out 434 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 1: right now. So two things census vote by mail absentee 435 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: ballot or make your plan to be in person to 436 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 1: know where you're voting. Just make your plans and spread 437 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 1: the word. Tell tell everyone you know, spread the word. 438 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: Make sure everyone you know and love does both things. 439 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: Since it's and vote, mom the vote. And then we 440 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: just lost an icon. Yes Pader Ginsburg, who blazed trails 441 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: for all women who followed her, who will follow her 442 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 1: in the future, all the little girls growing up now 443 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,959 Speaker 1: or yet to be born. And I was so moved 444 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 1: watching you and the other women in Congress paying your 445 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:35,400 Speaker 1: respects to her as she laid in state in the capital. 446 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: And she meant so much to so many women. What 447 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: do you feel is the most important part of her 448 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 1: legacy and how should we best honor it? I think 449 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,160 Speaker 1: her legacy is that she fought for justice every day 450 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 1: of her life. She fought for equality, She fought uh 451 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 1: to end discrimination against women in all its forms. And 452 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,360 Speaker 1: that's a pretty powerful legacy. Um, she spent a whole 453 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: life doing it. So for all your listeners, you know, 454 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: lifelong goals are important and things aren't immediate. You sometimes 455 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,439 Speaker 1: do need to spend decades fighting for you believe in. 456 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: But it's worth every every effort. And she's just such 457 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: a testament to resilience and enormous perseverance and persistence, and 458 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: I think she's an icon and a legend for all 459 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: of us to look up to and to try to 460 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 1: to try to replicate. Yeah, she's the original working mom, right, 461 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 1: very much, so amazing. If you've met one mom who 462 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 1: inspired you most, who would that be, Well, I'd say 463 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 1: my own mom definitely inspired me. She was a mom 464 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: who in her era, not many moms worked outside the home, 465 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,199 Speaker 1: but she did. And she went to law school and 466 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: became a lawyer. She was a family lawyer. She helped 467 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: people adopt children, and she helped families buy homes, UM, 468 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,439 Speaker 1: she helped small businesses um incorporate, So she did a 469 00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 1: lot of community legal work. And I really admired her because, 470 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: you know, she would make the breakfast, and she pick 471 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 1: us up at five o'clock and make the dinner and 472 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 1: just kept our house moving along, even though she had 473 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: the same job as my dad, they're both lawyers. But 474 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 1: she was the one who of course juggled all the 475 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: bits that moms typically juggle. And she just was a 476 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: great role model for me because she never even questioned 477 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: that she shouldn't have an impact on her community and 478 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,400 Speaker 1: her society. Uh, and that she wanted to do that 479 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: that's how she was built, it's what she wanted to do, 480 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: and she never felt guilty about it, and she always 481 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 1: just I'm just going to do both and I will 482 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:36,640 Speaker 1: show you how. And she did, and so I really 483 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 1: enjoyed watching her. And now as a mom, I seek 484 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 1: my mother's advice on everything. And when I'm exhausted or 485 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 1: really downtrodden, I go to her house and say, will 486 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:51,679 Speaker 1: you please watch will you please help Henry with this 487 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 1: and that the other thing? And can you please read 488 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: Theo's essay? And she's like, of course. And so she's 489 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,360 Speaker 1: a very helpful grandma as well as the wonderful role 490 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: model is a mom. Grandma is the best gig of all. 491 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:07,679 Speaker 1: I gotta say, I just I love how she does it, 492 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: and I will look forward to it myself. Yeah, there's 493 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 1: lots to look forward to. But what's great is that 494 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 1: she raised someone who other women can be inspired by, 495 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 1: which is a nice legacy for her as well. So 496 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 1: I wanted to thank you so much for spending time 497 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 1: with us today and sharing your insights as a senator, 498 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 1: as a mom, and as a human being on this 499 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 1: planet where we need more humanity. Well, thank you, Heidi, 500 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: and thank you for being such an extraordinary leader and advocate. 501 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: Your voice really does resonate and carries very far in wide, 502 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 1: So thank you for all you do to lift up 503 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: the needs of others and for constantly making a difference. Well, 504 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 1: thank you. We are on team mom. 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