Speaker 1: So, Sabrina, we've talked briefly about your dance team was
Speaker 1: going to the finals, and then I never heard it.
Speaker 1: I never heard from you. How did you do?
Speaker 2: Ugh? The girls went out there, We had such a
Speaker 2: great weekend. They killed it. I had a coaching moment
Speaker 2: for myself that I you know, it's one of those
Speaker 2: things where you kind of have to remember. One, the
Speaker 2: girls are in high school, right, so their age level,
Speaker 2: not middle school. Not middle school, okay. Two that sometimes
Speaker 2: it's like the lessons that they learn during these high
Speaker 2: intense moments of the season. Sure that that mean a
Speaker 2: lot more than just, you know, a trophy. And we
Speaker 2: had not hit our palm routine. The palm routine is
Speaker 2: like what we watched and got to kick it up. Okay,
Speaker 2: we had not hit it the way it was supposed
Speaker 2: to be hit. And the routine this is finals, this
Speaker 2: is it where we went in in first place. They
Speaker 2: brought it up, the energy to a whole other level.
Speaker 2: It was amazing. You're just sitting there, I'm almost holding
Speaker 2: my breath, going, oh my gosh, this is you know,
Speaker 2: And with the five seconds left of the routine, one
Speaker 2: of the girl's knees buckles in a turn, completely stops
Speaker 2: and yes, that's the moment where you're.
Speaker 1: Just like, did she fall?
Speaker 2: She didn't fall, she fell out of it and stopped
Speaker 2: turning right as the rest of the team was rotating.
Speaker 2: And she's a sophomore, she's an incredible teammate, she's awesome
Speaker 2: to coach. You know. It wasn't something that she does
Speaker 2: all the time. This was a fluke, right, So you
Speaker 2: have to go back there and just and just really
Speaker 2: into perspective of you know. What I loved about it
Speaker 2: was I was able to tell her, I know that
Speaker 2: you can overcome this, and still they still had they
Speaker 2: had still had a jazz routine and some girls would crumble,
Speaker 2: they would barely be able to make of course, of
Speaker 2: course she went out there for the jazz routine and
Speaker 2: just lit on fire, you know. And so we ended
Speaker 2: up not winning Palm, which was obviously devastating. I have
Speaker 2: eleven seniors. That was hard. But for me, it's those
Speaker 2: moments where you know, of course we want the trophy,
Speaker 2: that's what we go for all season, but for her
Speaker 2: to be able to overcome that obstacle and move on
Speaker 2: was really amazing to watch as well.
Speaker 1: Still doesn't but what place did you come in? We
Speaker 1: came in second second. Oh no, and all because of
Speaker 1: this one girl who you've now cut from the team.
Speaker 1: I understand her.
Speaker 2: I've never got her from that will she.
Speaker 1: I'm kidding such a decomm ending. It's like she's got alert,
Speaker 1: she'll learn.
Speaker 2: And yeah, and she's got in our dcom of your
Speaker 2: Belinda song in our Disney Channel original movie. She has
Speaker 2: her junior and senior year to come back and you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, have her own you know, vengeance
Speaker 2: of of you know, just a mistake that was a fluke.
Speaker 2: It wasn't like she yeah ever screws up, you know,
Speaker 2: But that's what happens in the heat of any athletic
Speaker 2: sport and high competition. Sometimes things just happen and you
Speaker 2: just you can't let it. It can't define you and
Speaker 2: your your year. It can't define what you're going to
Speaker 2: do from there on out. You got to rise above
Speaker 2: and just you know, hope that you you you get
Speaker 2: better from it.
Speaker 1: So that's good. Do you in the locker room do
Speaker 1: you ever look around and go it's called your Belinda,
Speaker 1: but it's really our Belinda. Do you ever do that?
Speaker 1: Because I'd like to suggest you start because it's kind
Speaker 1: of awesome.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's our our Belinda.
Speaker 1: Okay, you got to see I like it? Oh my, well,
Speaker 1: welcome everybody to magic. What we want on the show
Speaker 1: that makes you want to grab your friends, your pj's,
Speaker 1: and your pop and go back to a time when
Speaker 1: all the houses were smart, the wave Tsunamis and the
Speaker 1: high School's musical. I'm Wilford Dell and.
Speaker 2: I'm Sabrina Bryan.
Speaker 1: And just as we thought that the acid had borne off,
Speaker 1: we were ready to go. Woke up after that trip,
Speaker 1: going hey, we are ready to hit it.
Speaker 2: We enter the cyber version of it.
Speaker 1: We come to the cyber version, we come to a
Speaker 1: I mean, seriously, you're hard pressed to find a d
Speaker 1: com for this podcast that's more relevant now. If we're
Speaker 1: being honest, it's twenty four because it's where we are
Speaker 1: this week. I mean, literally, all the stories that we're
Speaker 1: hearing about in the news, all the things we're hearing
Speaker 1: about with the SAG strike and all the stuff people
Speaker 1: are hearing, they all have to do with AI and
Speaker 1: two thousand and four's Pixel Perfect. Once again, Disney has
Speaker 1: predicted the future. Absolutely it's all about AI and essentially
Speaker 1: creating the next big pop star in your computer. So
Speaker 1: that what we've got here. And they created a bit
Speaker 1: of a technology gumbo with this this movie because they
Speaker 1: were thrown a lot in the pot.
Speaker 3: There.
Speaker 1: There was drama, music, comedy, there's some sci fi, there's
Speaker 1: a little bit of matrix kind of action. Even the
Speaker 1: tagline for the film was even they don't make rock
Speaker 1: stars like they used to, which is again, it's all
Speaker 1: so relevant. Yes, it was reportedly done on a budget
Speaker 1: of four million dollars, which I can't that's got have
Speaker 1: been a lot of money, especially in two thousand and
Speaker 1: four for a deep.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think, I mean yes, And you see where
Speaker 2: it was going towards too, right.
Speaker 1: I was just about to say, this is not one
Speaker 1: of those movies where you go, where did the budget go?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was definitely not budget, but on their wardrobe, right, it.
Speaker 1: Was absolutely agree Yeah. So this was I mean two
Speaker 1: thousand and four is when all kind of the tech
Speaker 1: startups were coming and social media's birth, and it was
Speaker 1: a huge undertaking for the channel at the time. But
Speaker 1: it's it's not a bad movie for the record, It's
Speaker 1: just weird at times.
Speaker 2: It went in and out of what's going on right
Speaker 2: at Wait? What where?
Speaker 1: Yes? Exactly here?
Speaker 2: We got it?
Speaker 1: Okay, what is that? But okay, but before the Zata
Speaker 1: bytes take the stage, why don't we hop into the
Speaker 1: synopsis here? So, when Samantha's band isn't gaining any success,
Speaker 1: her friend Roscoe uses his father's technology to create a
Speaker 1: sensational lead singer who's actually a hologram. And when things
Speaker 1: get complicated and the technology starts to fail, what's going
Speaker 1: to happen to the group, and more importantly, the identity
Speaker 1: of the hologram. This is now years before keep in
Speaker 1: mind the Tupac hologram would pop up at Coachella or
Speaker 1: Siri was unveiled. Loretta Modern, that's the name of our
Speaker 1: character here, Loretta Modern was introduced to the Disney viewer.
Speaker 1: And it is a crazy and wild ride to say
Speaker 1: the least. So before we I'm gonna say it, before
Speaker 1: we log onto this one, thank you very much, Sabrina.
Speaker 1: Did you like it? What are your thoughts? Initial thoughts?
Speaker 2: You know, I did. I I was, like you said,
Speaker 2: I went in and out. Sometimes I was kind of
Speaker 2: you know, okay, what is going on? You know? Is
Speaker 2: this needed? But I did. I loved the music in it.
Speaker 2: I loved when we got all of our paperwork that
Speaker 2: there was in fact a soundtrack to this movie, because
Speaker 2: I thought the music was really great. It was to me.
Speaker 2: I have recently watched the Pink, the Pink documentary of
Speaker 2: what it was like when she was first coming out
Speaker 2: as an artist.
Speaker 1: This is about Pink, not a documentary all shot in
Speaker 1: the color pink. Am.
Speaker 2: I know the artist Pink and sort of her her
Speaker 2: revelation of the artists she ends up being able to be.
Speaker 2: So the storyline kind of reminded me of that, which
Speaker 2: I thought was really cool.
Speaker 1: Okay, and yeah, I did.
Speaker 2: I enjoyed it. I thought there's obviously lots to pick
Speaker 2: a part here and there, but I did like it.
Speaker 1: Okay, it was easy.
Speaker 2: There's only one part for me that was a little
Speaker 2: all right, yeah, okay, Doki and and then the end,
Speaker 2: the end I had to rewatch because there was a
Speaker 2: lot of questionable choices there too, So okay, that was it.
Speaker 2: But I did like it. I thought it was I
Speaker 2: thought it was cute.
Speaker 1: I will be honest with you. The first so I
Speaker 1: watched these movies more than once. Right the first time
Speaker 1: I saw this movie, I did not like it at all. Really,
Speaker 1: I really didn't. I was like, I don't get this.
Speaker 1: I don't like it. I thought visually, especially for a
Speaker 1: Disney Channel movie, it was really good. I thought, again,
Speaker 1: the acting we've seen in some of the last few
Speaker 1: films has been spot on. It's not about the acting.
Speaker 1: I thought the cast is good. I thought the acting
Speaker 1: was good. I didn't like the story. I didn't. I
Speaker 1: was like, man, I really don't like this. Then I
Speaker 1: watched it again, Okay, And the second time I watched it,
Speaker 1: I liked it a lot more than I did the
Speaker 1: first time. I really did. I mean, is it a
Speaker 1: perfect movie. No, Like you said, there's plenty of things
Speaker 1: to pick apart, there's kind of nitpicky stuff. It hit
Speaker 1: some of the same tropes that we've talked about all
Speaker 1: the times, the non supportive dad. I mean, we've we've
Speaker 1: hit kind of some of these where now I'm just
Speaker 1: coming to expect them. But the second time I saw it,
Speaker 1: I saw it differently than I did the first time.
Speaker 1: And by the way, I agree with you one hundred
Speaker 1: percent all respect to the Cheetah Girls, girl power everything.
Speaker 1: I thought, I really liked the music and like I
Speaker 1: was humming the songs, yeah, from this movie, same after
Speaker 1: it was done. So this is some of my favorite
Speaker 1: you know me and musicals. But again, like Cheetah Girls,
Speaker 1: it's a band playing the music. It is not just
Speaker 1: breaking into song.
Speaker 2: But they do make a choice that does not make
Speaker 2: sense to go along with that. And we're gonna come
Speaker 2: there and.
Speaker 1: We'll get it. We'll get into all that. There is
Speaker 1: some some very strange things, but yes, overall not offten,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: And I think I was exactly the same first time.
Speaker 2: I what is happening?
Speaker 1: Okay, all right?
Speaker 2: When are all right? Bring me in high school musical.
Speaker 2: I can't do this anymore. I got a super good one, right.
Speaker 2: That was the first time. Then the second time, same thing,
Speaker 2: but I think it was again this introducing this new
Speaker 2: technology and you know, so I added a lot to
Speaker 2: the storyline that almost flooded it a little bit for
Speaker 2: the first watch. But the second watch, because I was
Speaker 2: already understanding what was going on, it was an easier watch.
Speaker 1: I don't disagree. I agree with you one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: Right on the same page as that.
Speaker 1: Yep. Okay, So the movie stars revive Olman, then Build
Speaker 1: as Ricky Olman as Roscoe who after this role was
Speaker 1: cast by Disney. Of course Disney and their synergy. We
Speaker 1: talked about this all the time on Phil of the Future.
Speaker 1: He was the title character, Phil Diffy and must have
Speaker 1: impressed the channel obviously when it came to this type
Speaker 1: of subject matter, because this is kind of what it
Speaker 1: was all about. Leah Pipes played Samantha. She's the budding
Speaker 1: musician looking for a way to break through in the industry.
Speaker 2: Loved her.
Speaker 1: She was great. That was one of my first things
Speaker 1: I bumped against, and we'll get into that. That was
Speaker 1: This was one of her first jobs. She'd later be
Speaker 1: seen on TV shows like Malcolm in the Middle, Bones
Speaker 1: and Glee, and she's best known as Camille O'Connell on
Speaker 1: The Originals, which was a CW vampire diary spinoff which
Speaker 1: ran for five seasons. So you know, wow, good career.
Speaker 1: And then Spencer Redford. We've got to talk about Spencer
Speaker 1: Redford because she plays the hologram Loretta Modern. She plays
Speaker 1: it very interestingly. It's almost it's it's one step up above.
Speaker 1: You won't remember this because you're far too young, but
Speaker 1: there was a great show in the early and mid
Speaker 1: eighties called Small Wonder.
Speaker 2: Yes, I remember Small One.
Speaker 1: You're sure, okay, I'm just checking. I can never tell
Speaker 1: Sabrina so little deal a little more step up from
Speaker 1: Small Wonder, But she'd already been on a bunch of
Speaker 1: Disney shows. She was on Even Stevens that's so raven.
Speaker 1: And after Pixel Perfect she did a couple more things
Speaker 1: and then just stopped acting entirely disappeared. I tried a
Speaker 1: deep dive. Other people have tried a deep dive two
Speaker 1: thousand and seven. She's got no social media, she's got
Speaker 1: no kind of presence in the industry, she kind of said.
Speaker 1: At least it seems like and this is all speculation. Hey,
Speaker 1: I did some stuff. I had some fun. Thank you.
Speaker 1: Next chapter of my life really kind of cool. You
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 2: Totally, okay, Spencer, but what is it you're leaving us
Speaker 2: hanging now?
Speaker 1: It really made me want to find Spencer Redford.
Speaker 2: I know there are some fans d Calm, magical, rewind fans.
Speaker 2: You guys, get out there, you start, You find Spencer
Speaker 2: and let us know.
Speaker 1: She might not want to be found, she might love
Speaker 1: not being found.
Speaker 2: That's the problem as an actress. But if she's you know,
Speaker 2: my doctor or she's just this incredible mom red awesome.
Speaker 2: There's so many, so many different things that she could
Speaker 2: be doing that I'm sure she's proud of whatever she's doing,
Speaker 2: and that's okay.
Speaker 1: We hope you're happy, Spencer, but we would absolutely love
Speaker 1: to know what you're doing. Yeah. This movie runs eighty
Speaker 1: five minutes, which is five minutes from that bullseye that
Speaker 1: we like, the ninety minute bullseye and it first aired
Speaker 1: on January sixteenth, two thousand and four, in the United States.
Speaker 1: It was co written by Alan Sachs, who was a
Speaker 1: creator of this one. I know you're too. Were you
Speaker 1: a welcome back Hotter fan?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: God is just learning all about this, Sabrina, I love it. Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: mister gott Miss Danes he O missed the Kata and
Speaker 1: the writer of the nineteen eighty six skateboarding Josh Brolin
Speaker 1: movie Thrash, in which you remember Sam Horrigan, who played
Speaker 1: Valen Brink said was like one of his quintessential kid
Speaker 1: movies growing up, like he loved absolutely. Yes, He's also
Speaker 1: involved in other Disney Channel classics like Smart House, Camp Rock,
Speaker 1: and You Wish And the other writer was actually a
Speaker 1: science fiction author and This was his only teleplay ever,
Speaker 1: which is kind of cool. The movie was directed by
Speaker 1: Mark A. Z. Dippey, who was already directing huge budget
Speaker 1: studio films like Spawn, which was back in the day
Speaker 1: based on the Todd McFarlane huge enormous comic book that
Speaker 1: was a hit so big big budget movies and was
Speaker 1: the era's most prolific visual effects artist and supervisors. Listen
Speaker 1: to the movies that this man was involved with, the Abyss,
Speaker 1: Back to the Future two, Ghost Terminator two and Jurassic Park.
Speaker 1: I mean it was like you name it. I mean,
Speaker 1: these visual effects that change industry. The first time you're
Speaker 1: in a theater and I'm a kid and I'm watching
Speaker 1: the the T two robot turn into liquid metal, and
Speaker 1: then the Jurassic part, I mean, forget insane. So here's
Speaker 1: my first question. Did Disney actually predict holographic musicians? Can
Speaker 1: you think of a time before this, because now they're
Speaker 1: everywhere and right?
Speaker 2: No, I mean I can't think of anyone else that
Speaker 2: had this. The closest to this storyline for me was
Speaker 2: what was that movie?
Speaker 1: I think he was in this in the Hols?
Speaker 2: No, No, what was it Weird Science where he makes.
Speaker 1: A girlfriend the Weird Times where he builds the two
Speaker 1: of them build a girl, yes, and.
Speaker 2: That this is that's it. But she wasn't a holographic girl.
Speaker 2: She was like supposed to be a real.
Speaker 1: Yes, built from they so they build Kelly le Brock
Speaker 1: in the computer. Yeah part of that movie. Doesn't that
Speaker 1: hold up? Well, we'll do that later.
Speaker 2: But that's the closest of a storyline.
Speaker 1: I can't really think of a disneyfied version. Kind of
Speaker 1: of weird, That's That's what I'm guessing. The pitch was,
Speaker 1: it's weird science meets musicians, right, So, yes, very similar
Speaker 1: to that. But I mean there's now a hologram Whitney
Speaker 1: Houston playing in Vegas, and one of the biggest pop
Speaker 1: stars in Japan is Hotsuni Miko, which is a crowdsourced
Speaker 1: three D anime image that plays with the band in
Speaker 1: front of thousands of fans. So and then there's the gorillas.
Speaker 1: I mean, you've got stuff like that. So they again
Speaker 1: Disney on top of the game. Here.
Speaker 2: It's unreal because this was so it was so long ago,
Speaker 2: not not like decades and decades ago. You're long enough
Speaker 2: to think that that would be a ridiculous idea, right
Speaker 2: that a lot of people would think.
Speaker 1: That is insane. No one's going to go to a
Speaker 1: hologram concert.
Speaker 2: I would not. I do not think I would go.
Speaker 2: I would go to Whitney Houston. I think it would
Speaker 2: be it have to be a Whitney Houston, a Selene Deeon.
Speaker 2: It have to be someone that I already knew and
Speaker 2: loved their music, right, and knew that they weren't going
Speaker 2: to be somebody. I wasn't expecting a big production dan
Speaker 2: scene of that artist, right. I don't want to see
Speaker 2: a hologram dance around, but I will go and listen
Speaker 2: to Whitney Houston's more.
Speaker 1: You just don't want to be replaced as a dancer
Speaker 1: by holograms. I get it. I totally get it.
Speaker 2: I think I would have to will I don't know
Speaker 2: if I could move the way that I used to.
Speaker 1: You know, if you should be tested, sure you could,
Speaker 1: just as long as you don't buckle your knee, and
Speaker 1: then you wouldn't win pousse.
Speaker 2: As long as it's like a you know, a younger,
Speaker 2: cuter body, I'm.
Speaker 1: Alright with the please. Now see what's funny is I
Speaker 1: think I would rather they create something brand new as
Speaker 1: opposed to bring back somebody who's passed away, because it's like,
Speaker 1: how do you how do people know that Whitney Houston's
Speaker 1: okay with being a hologram on stage or tupacsha Kors
Speaker 1: where it's like, if you create something completely new, it's like,
Speaker 1: all right, that's a nonsentient being as opposed to like,
Speaker 1: we're gonna make more money off of this person that's
Speaker 1: already dead and now we're gonna hologrammle right, I don't know.
Speaker 1: That's a way. That's a whole different podcast.
Speaker 2: That's a whole that is a different podcast, because that
Speaker 2: does bring up that's very true.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it brings up the whole moral dilemma. But there's
Speaker 1: moral dilemmas in this film as well. Booms, he brought
Speaker 1: it right back around.
Speaker 2: Well, there we go. We're right back into Pixel Perfect.
Speaker 1: The movie starts with Roscoe, who is a sixteen year
Speaker 1: old computer do we messing with his father's new program
Speaker 1: in a massive, really expensive house where they have like
Speaker 1: a maid who is also their chef and feeds them.
Speaker 1: But that's a little confusing because his dad doesn't seem
Speaker 1: to be very high up in the company and also
Speaker 1: seems to always be on the edge of maybe losing
Speaker 1: his job.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: He also has a son again, talked a little bit
Speaker 1: about the first trope that bumped me. He has a
Speaker 1: son who knows at fifteen or sixteen he drives, so
Speaker 1: at sixteen enough about what his father does for a
Speaker 1: living to where he's creating holographic cats and stuff. I mean,
Speaker 1: this kid is obviously techno talented, right, and the dad's like,
Speaker 1: what are you doing, Get off my computer, get read dude.
Speaker 1: He's creating people and animals, and the dad is still
Speaker 1: not cool with this.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean, I yeah. I think his character
Speaker 2: seemed to just sort of be in his own world,
Speaker 2: which is what Roscoe is. Roscoe. I mean, we will
Speaker 2: get into talk about the perfect example as us women
Speaker 2: feel boys that age are so dumb and so out
Speaker 2: not in the world that we are living in during
Speaker 2: that time in high school. They just don't get it.
Speaker 2: And it feels like that's kind of what his dad's
Speaker 2: character is supposed to always also be.
Speaker 1: Okay, he lives in the net.
Speaker 2: Essentially, he has an issue with cutting off work and reality.
Speaker 1: Okay, so the apple doesn't fall far from the tree,
Speaker 1: is what we think we're going with. So yeah, he
Speaker 1: creates this holographic cat that can change for color and
Speaker 1: patterns just by pressing buttons. And then when his friend
Speaker 1: best friend they set up her all girl band, needs
Speaker 1: something to help them stand out, he decides to create
Speaker 1: a lead singer from the physical attributes of many of
Speaker 1: the talented women that are out there. I mean, we
Speaker 1: could see him taking bits of magazines. Is like the
Speaker 1: weird science thing, bits of you know, Michelle Branch and
Speaker 1: Victoria Beckham and all these kind of people. But the
Speaker 1: thing that I found amazing was that it started where
Speaker 1: the band, the all girl band, goes to their first
Speaker 1: audition and they kick some serious ass with this incredibly
Speaker 1: cute rock star girlfriend who can sing and play guitar,
Speaker 1: who is fronting this three piece band. They are incredible,
Speaker 1: and the guys don't stop it. Everybody, Oh stop, you
Speaker 1: can't do it. Unless I didn't get that they should
Speaker 1: have made her less good because she was so good.
Speaker 2: You know, I did not understand the problem, right, But
Speaker 2: then it pulled me into this era of this was
Speaker 2: when you know, Britney Spears was everything at this point, right,
Speaker 2: So it's trying to make it into why would this
Speaker 2: rock band need to dance? Why? Why they all play instruments.
Speaker 1: They're a rock band.
Speaker 2: Yes, even his example that comes out after they only
Speaker 2: have mics and are dancing. Yes, let's see those girls move,
Speaker 2: let's let's have them dance. Why that would be like
Speaker 2: telling the Jonas brothers you suck because you guys aren't
Speaker 2: dancing like in sync? What they're all they're a band
Speaker 2: yet they're a band. Yeah, this is like so dump.
Speaker 2: So that's where I went, uh oh, oh.
Speaker 1: No, I got that's my That was my first I was.
Speaker 2: Like, hey day, may day, I'm gonna hate this.
Speaker 1: Also, she's awesome.
Speaker 2: She was great.
Speaker 1: Band is great, I know, I know. Yeah, so very
Speaker 1: very strange, but you know, it leads us into our
Speaker 1: story where Roscoe then essentially says the line I'm here
Speaker 1: to make perfection. I'm here to make you, and he
Speaker 1: makes Loretta matter. So they hold a another audition see
Speaker 1: another Disney trope, which I'm a fan of. I love
Speaker 1: the audition montages. I could do those all day.
Speaker 2: Oh the screaming poem and he just hears it from outside.
Speaker 2: It's like, and that girl was so good, she was hilarious.
Speaker 2: She seemed like a stand up comic act. It was
Speaker 2: so fun I loved that one. I thought, we're okay,
Speaker 2: you know that funny enough Irish digging? Did you not go, oh,
Speaker 2: I already know about the Irish Jane.
Speaker 1: Yes, right, And I was like, oh my god, it's
Speaker 1: lucky Irish again. They have found their their jigging trope. Yes,
Speaker 1: oh man. And so then Loretta Modern comes in, she sings,
Speaker 1: they of her. She also does this thing where now unfortunately,
Speaker 1: which is another thing that and it's just a technical thing,
Speaker 1: but it always annoys me in every movie where now,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, who's ever singing and leading the
Speaker 1: band no longer needs a microphone.
Speaker 2: That was what I was gonna say, is it doesn't
Speaker 2: make sense. Why does she not need a microphone?
Speaker 1: I could get if Loretta didn't need one, like maybe
Speaker 1: she's hooked into like the the computer speakers. That's where
Speaker 1: I got through it in my head. But then later
Speaker 1: in the movie where his friend takes over the band again,
Speaker 1: she now doesn't need a microphone anymore, and it's like,
Speaker 1: why do not need microphones anymore? So Loretta of course
Speaker 1: gets the job joins the band named the Zeta Bytes.
Speaker 1: The opening the next band coming on was Moist Toilette.
Speaker 1: It just might be arguably what I think, We're gonna
Speaker 1: have to start making a record of greatest we have,
Speaker 1: greatest character names, greatest band names. Colette has to be there.
Speaker 1: So they now are starting to not tour but do
Speaker 1: gigs with Loretta Modern. She's in the band, she's being
Speaker 1: controlled by Roscoe, who stands off stage, and she's obviously
Speaker 1: a wonderful singer. I have a question for you, Sabrina,
Speaker 1: because I don't know anything about this and you are
Speaker 1: absolutely the resident expert. Her dancing to me seemed weird.
Speaker 1: It didn't seem like it was going with the music
Speaker 1: that was actually happening. And I didn't know if they
Speaker 1: were doing it because it was She's supposed to be
Speaker 1: kind of robotic, like she's you know, can only do
Speaker 1: so much because she is programmed. But it seemed very herky, jerky,
Speaker 1: and I didn't know if you're like, no, that's called
Speaker 1: Norvin and that's the biggest everyone dance like that. No.
Speaker 2: When I saw her start dancing and go, oh gosh,
Speaker 2: now I got to talk about this, she's gonna have
Speaker 2: to happen because technically, Spencer, you can tell is a
Speaker 2: very well trained dancer.
Speaker 1: Yes, I even I could see that she has great technique,
Speaker 1: but like in her spins and all that stuff, even
Speaker 1: I could see that, yes.
Speaker 2: She's got I mean, you know, everyone still needs to
Speaker 2: continue to train. But she was great. The problem was, again,
Speaker 2: this style of music does not call for dancing. Therefore,
Speaker 2: the style of dancing they were doing did not go
Speaker 2: with the music. So what you saw and that odd
Speaker 2: she was, it was odd material for this type of music.
Speaker 2: So I think they just did what happens a lot
Speaker 2: of times, someone said, oh, we need a dancer, and
Speaker 2: then you start looking at choreographers that have agents, and
Speaker 2: someone just randomly gets booked. You know, I've worked on
Speaker 2: a movie that wanted Latin style dancing and they had
Speaker 2: a choreographer who that wasn't what they did, so they
Speaker 2: don't really know partner work. So I end up calling
Speaker 2: in one of my friends who's from Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 2: You know, it's like, not everyone can just throw you know,
Speaker 2: Dancing with the Stars. Not every single one of those
Speaker 2: pros can put together a contemporary routine that's not now
Speaker 2: that's really what they're trained in. So that's what it
Speaker 2: seemed like to me, they had just a choreographer that
Speaker 2: wasn't seeing what kind of movement. But again, the style
Speaker 2: of music.
Speaker 1: Didn't need it, didn't I agree.
Speaker 2: I agree that was a tough job for the choreographer
Speaker 2: to begin with.
Speaker 1: Yes, and exactly what you were saying. There's so few
Speaker 1: of us that can dance all steps exactly you are.
Speaker 1: I'm one of the few. I'm one of rare Gem.
Speaker 1: Mister rare Gem. So okay, she's dancing around the stage.
Speaker 1: She can't be touched or touch anybody else, but can
Speaker 1: jump off of the drum set to do double flips.
Speaker 1: I didn't get that either, didn't understand that he could
Speaker 1: probably maybe just program it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess, yeah.
Speaker 1: So uh. They of course start to take off, and
Speaker 1: they instantly catch the eye of a former rapper turned
Speaker 1: label talent scout who's got the subtle name of Darryl Fibbs,
Speaker 1: who played was played by actor Chris Williams, who you
Speaker 1: might remember as Crazy Eyes Killer in Curb Your Enthusiasm.
Speaker 1: Look up his resume. He's done a bunch of stuff.
Speaker 1: He's super funny. Oh I know, he played it straight
Speaker 1: in this one, but he's also just really funny.
Speaker 2: I was waiting for him to dive into some type
Speaker 2: of comedy, something character, some type of real big character.
Speaker 2: But it didn't happen. Spoiler alert, it doesn't happen.
Speaker 1: But he doesn't happen. But he was great. He was
Speaker 1: great playing a total, total straight man. But man, he
Speaker 1: is funny. And then you know, obviously the Zeta Bites
Speaker 1: music starts to become more and more popular, and we've
Speaker 1: talked about this already. I wanted to get in a
Speaker 1: little bit of the songs, but we talked about it.
Speaker 1: We liked the songs they were They were really catchy.
Speaker 2: I know I did.
Speaker 1: Did they sing them? Do you know that?
Speaker 2: That's what I was gonna ask when I was really
Speaker 2: interested into knowing. But when we got the information from
Speaker 2: the producers, it says the character's names on the the
Speaker 2: mentions of the music, it says the character's names.
Speaker 1: They're only apparently, according to one of our producers, they're
Speaker 1: only listed as the Zeta Bytes. So maybe if we
Speaker 1: get a chance to interview one of them, maybe wink wink,
Speaker 1: that might be happening. We might be able to to
Speaker 1: ask this person. So the band blows up. They've now
Speaker 1: got some representation The problem is a Loretta has aspirations
Speaker 1: maybe on being a hologram. She wants to go outside
Speaker 1: and touch birds and rain, and she can't. She has
Speaker 1: to stay inside. That's one of the parameters of her
Speaker 1: being a hologram is she can't go outside. She can
Speaker 1: only stay within the confines of whatever house or building
Speaker 1: they're in, or this little soda can that they can
Speaker 1: download her in and take her around with them in
Speaker 1: different stuff. So yeah, that's gonna make Coachella a little
Speaker 1: difficult to play. But anyway, Rosco, now here's where the
Speaker 1: emotional part of the film really kicks in because Roscoe
Speaker 1: obviously and this makes total sense, And this is what
Speaker 1: I really liked about the second time I watched Okay,
Speaker 1: he much like Weird Science. He's built his ideal woman, Like,
Speaker 1: how does he not start to fall for her? And
Speaker 1: she even his best friend, starts to address it later
Speaker 1: in the film, where she's like, of course you're following
Speaker 1: for her. You built your perfect your quote unquote perfect woman,
Speaker 1: at least what you think is a perfect woman. And
Speaker 1: so Samantha starts to get jealousy. Because one of the
Speaker 1: things that I really liked about this this movie that
Speaker 1: we haven't really seen much of is Samantha put herself
Speaker 1: out there and full on took a shot where he's like,
Speaker 1: there's a scene where she says she's not real and
Speaker 1: he says, well, what's real? And she stands up and
Speaker 1: she says me, I'm real. I've been here the whole time,
Speaker 1: and then she kisses him and it's so sweet, like
Speaker 1: she fully puts herself out there. I'm taking a shot.
Speaker 1: I'm going and so, but did you know you didn't
Speaker 1: see the kiss? You do? I know, but you know
Speaker 1: you gotta imagine.
Speaker 2: I know that that's so funny. Disney does stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's just a sweet little people bag.
Speaker 2: They weren't crazy.
Speaker 1: And then he instantly kind of the only thing he
Speaker 1: didn't do is go like, yeah, oh man, dude, come
Speaker 1: on again.
Speaker 2: And how could you not know that she was interested
Speaker 2: in you to begin with? When you first bring up
Speaker 2: the date, she's absolutely yes, I would love to go.
Speaker 2: Oh what this is just a setup? I mean she
Speaker 2: there's multiple times and we only get to see ninety
Speaker 2: minutes of it, and we're catching on, Roscoe, get it together, homie.
Speaker 1: Okay, so this is a perfect chance. There's this game
Speaker 1: that we wanted to play for a while that we
Speaker 1: haven't had a chance to do yet, and I think
Speaker 1: this is the perfect opportunity. The game is called would
Speaker 1: she ever really want it? So I have to ask.
Speaker 1: You've got Roscoe, he's kind of like his dad. You're right,
Speaker 1: you pointed that out takes it in a whole different direction.
Speaker 1: Computer nerd falling in love with a fake girl when
Speaker 1: the real girl, who is a literal rock star and
Speaker 1: kicks some serious ass all the way around, is totally
Speaker 1: in love with them. They both strangely seem out of
Speaker 1: his league, one because she's a hologram, but he and
Speaker 1: and a pop star. But the other one is would
Speaker 1: either of these characters actually fall for this character? Yes?
Speaker 1: I agree with you one hundred percent. Yes.
Speaker 2: First of all, he's adorable. He's so cute, right, and
Speaker 2: I love that. Well, I'll get That's why in one
Speaker 2: of my sabriencies, because you haven't mentioned it yet, I'm
Speaker 2: holding my breath that you're not going to take them
Speaker 2: all again. But he's smart, he's kind, he's a great
Speaker 2: friend to her. It's not he's not a jerk to her,
Speaker 2: but also.
Speaker 1: Is he is he a great friend? He's the first
Speaker 1: one to come up and say, oh my god, you
Speaker 1: should write the songs and let somebody else sing.
Speaker 2: You should let somebody else. I know, it was really harsh.
Speaker 2: I was really hard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he's he's I don't know how great
Speaker 1: a friend he is. He's like you, you know, they're right.
Speaker 2: He's there for her. I mean, he comes to she's
Speaker 2: the one that asks him to come to the audition
Speaker 2: in the first place. He doesn't have to go. He's
Speaker 2: working on making cats and stuff. He didn't have to go.
Speaker 2: He's got stuff to do. He's got his own homework
Speaker 2: he's making. He just hated to go. Yeah, he did go.
Speaker 2: So he again, he's in his own world. He doesn't
Speaker 2: really make sense. I think when he says that comment,
Speaker 2: he already had in the back of his mind an
Speaker 2: idea of what he was going to do.
Speaker 1: That he wanted to build a girl, and he wanted
Speaker 1: an excuse that wasn't creepy to build a girl. So
Speaker 1: he's like, you need a lead singer.
Speaker 2: Here, you go here, you need a lead singer. I
Speaker 2: can have a girlfriend. You can get a lead singer
Speaker 2: at all works. So that's that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he seemed he was. He was always there for her.
Speaker 1: But sometimes while he was there, you're saying things like
Speaker 1: you're not good enough to do this yourself. Yeah, so,
Speaker 1: but I don't disagree with you. I can see how.
Speaker 2: In a high school world.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the soft spoken computer nerd and I'm a nerd myself.
Speaker 1: How the girl who's kind of the rock star they
Speaker 1: spend all this time together, I can totally see how
Speaker 1: she developed feelings for him totally.
Speaker 2: And then now you put in some competition, and that's
Speaker 2: where girls they start to lose their marbles. Okay, you
Speaker 2: cannot put some compet Now there's competition on the line.
Speaker 2: It doesn't seem like he has the same kind of
Speaker 2: you know, relationship with the other two bandmates. It's just
Speaker 2: her and him. Now there's some competition, and oh, she's
Speaker 2: going balls to the wall. She's pissed.
Speaker 1: Here we go. But he even says to her at
Speaker 1: one point they you know, she says something like, well, geez,
Speaker 1: why don't you if only you could reprogram me so
Speaker 1: I didn't argue with you all the time. He's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I wish I could or something. It's like, whoa that
Speaker 1: even the character apologized, He's like, sorry that was super harsh, dude, like,
Speaker 1: I wish I could reprogram you, so you just agreed
Speaker 1: with me all the time.
Speaker 2: Wow, Well.
Speaker 1: There's now officially a love triangle where the Hologram and
Speaker 1: Samantha are fighting over this guy and Loretta then to
Speaker 1: get away from everything going on, goes into the Internet.
Speaker 1: Now this is the first time when I saw this
Speaker 1: where I was like, this is Banana's ba n A
Speaker 1: n as, Like, what is going on? She's now in
Speaker 1: the Internet machine where she meets a truck driver who
Speaker 1: is kind of in control of the Internet and.
Speaker 2: Being the idiot robot she is, she just joins this
Speaker 2: stranger of a truck driver.
Speaker 1: And then and then jumps into the thing. But do
Speaker 1: you know what Disney did first here too? I realized
Speaker 1: this is wrecket Ralph? Straight up? Did they did wreck
Speaker 1: it Ralph before even wrecket Ralph? I mean, this is
Speaker 1: like the precursor that she's going to try to find
Speaker 1: the email and she's like They're like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: there's a virus. This is all like straight up wreck
Speaker 1: itt Ralph. And for the budget and the time, the
Speaker 1: effects aren't bad. Right.
Speaker 2: I did not understand why this train contraption that pixture
Speaker 2: up looked that way, I thought, Yeah, it reminded me
Speaker 2: a little of like the was it their training back
Speaker 2: to the future that kind of looked funk.
Speaker 1: Back Yeah, the future three.
Speaker 2: Yeah, reminded me of that a little bit.
Speaker 1: I felt it was almost like a Mad Max kind
Speaker 1: of vehicle.
Speaker 2: Yes, it could have been more modern, because that's what
Speaker 2: they were going for, was this modern oh.
Speaker 1: Like a space shippy kind of thing.
Speaker 2: Space shipping type situation, rather than this old school looking
Speaker 2: train thing. That's that didn't I did love that part.
Speaker 1: But the first thing, but the thing would pop ups
Speaker 1: and all that, and.
Speaker 2: The dice why does he have dice in his training things?
Speaker 2: A little furry dice? Like everyone still has, yeah, spurry
Speaker 2: dice anymore except for my friend Carrie, who I got
Speaker 2: some for her for her sixteen that's for.
Speaker 1: And what Han Solo has them in the Millennium Falca
Speaker 1: But that's a whole different thing. So yeah, she's trying
Speaker 1: to I guess fine, she's trying to be more real.
Speaker 1: She doesn't like the idea of being perfect. She wants
Speaker 1: to There's actually a great scene between her and Samantha
Speaker 1: where it's great but harsh and I'm amazed. They went
Speaker 1: this route where she literally calls her fat I know that,
Speaker 1: and it's like, well you at least I'm alive. You
Speaker 1: don't have any feelings. It was like a harsh between
Speaker 1: these two girls.
Speaker 2: I'm the way the quote she said of her being
Speaker 2: a little bit it was too much water or.
Speaker 1: Something, yeah, like you're you have too much you carry
Speaker 1: just water weight, maybe too much such.
Speaker 2: It was like whoa Loretta wait lo heyes, lo redda,
Speaker 2: I need you to take it down a bit. Calm
Speaker 2: down girl.
Speaker 1: And then she's like, yeah, you don't ever learn And
Speaker 1: then the Samantha comes back with, well, you'll never learn
Speaker 1: anything and you're not. It's basically like you you're not
Speaker 1: gonna you have a no soul. You're gonna end up there.
Speaker 2: It's like, oh my god, you know what a baby is,
Speaker 2: but you've never been one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's a harsh fight. It's a very real
Speaker 1: harsh fight.
Speaker 2: It was the weight thing really shocked me though.
Speaker 1: He too, because it's it's very not Disney exactly to
Speaker 1: go after somebody's looks or wait, we've.
Speaker 2: Seen that twice. Now, where was the other one? Got
Speaker 2: to kick it up?
Speaker 1: Remember Reese's pieces in the beginning with America.
Speaker 2: For our friend, Yes, bully coming after her. It's not big.
Speaker 2: They don't go into it for very long. It's just
Speaker 2: like a small little snippet.
Speaker 1: A little jab And both times it's interesting. It's girl
Speaker 1: against girl. Absolutely, they're never making fun of a boy's
Speaker 1: weight or any of that stuff. It's girl against girl.
Speaker 1: Very interesting. I didn't think about that. That's a good connection. So, yes,
Speaker 1: she's speeding on the Information super Highway and the truck
Speaker 1: driver is showing her around, and we talked about how
Speaker 1: I think the effects are pretty darn good for the
Speaker 1: budget what they had. But again, this guy was Jurassic
Speaker 1: Park terminator. You give him twenty dollars, he's going to
Speaker 1: make it seem like you gave him a hundred thousands. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: it looked amazing.
Speaker 2: I just didn't really one hundred percent understand what her
Speaker 2: mission was going in there.
Speaker 1: I know I didn't either, And.
Speaker 2: Then when she came out what it was that she
Speaker 2: gained that was just a very big barret. It just
Speaker 2: it was cool that they were again, especially since we
Speaker 2: now know they were at the front of this type
Speaker 2: of you know, AI stuff. But at the same time,
Speaker 2: what was the purpose.
Speaker 1: I agree there was no real motivation.
Speaker 2: She watched it two times.
Speaker 1: Will didn't understand. Yeah, me too. I didn't need it.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 2: I still don't have the answer.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it was Hey, let's let's go into the
Speaker 1: information too. Let's go into the web and see what
Speaker 1: the web would look like, which again would look like
Speaker 1: two thousand and four. Probably we're going back to. If
Speaker 1: you go back to like tron and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: then you got to see like the inside of the
Speaker 1: quote unquote computer. But this is one of the first
Speaker 1: times of going into the web and all that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff. So cool, But I agree the motivation was
Speaker 1: muddled at best. Yeah. Yeah. Through a random series of events,
Speaker 1: she's at a concert somebody, you know, she starts to
Speaker 1: lose pixelation. People in the audience realize she's she's fake,
Speaker 1: but love the idea that there's a hologram pop star.
Speaker 1: The record company gets wint to the fact that this
Speaker 1: is going to happen. They love the idea, and now
Speaker 1: Rosco's dad because this is going to kind of end
Speaker 1: up saving his dad's job. Again. The super wealthy guy
Speaker 1: for some reason was about to lose his job becomes
Speaker 1: partners with Roscoe, or tries to become partners with Roscoe
Speaker 1: as they then pivot the entire movie to more of
Speaker 1: a morality tale of not only fathers and sons and
Speaker 1: being your dad and being there for your kid, but
Speaker 1: also is Loretta modern becoming her own person? Should she
Speaker 1: be allowed to have her own voice, her own ideas.
Speaker 1: The answer is, of course no, she's a computer thing.
Speaker 1: But whatever, I get where they're going for the morality play,
Speaker 1: because it is Disney, it's like she's supposed to she
Speaker 1: should be able to make her own decisions, and it's
Speaker 1: interesting how they they do that. So the record executive
Speaker 1: essentially says, I'm taking you. If you want to get
Speaker 1: out of here, we should get out of here, and
Speaker 1: he downloads her to his phone. They take off. She
Speaker 1: is once again in the web. Meanwhile, this is the
Speaker 1: Japanese web. Now, yes, now she's somehow in Japan.
Speaker 2: Japan in a perfectly ensemble outfit.
Speaker 1: Right, and she mentions that she went club hopping in Japan.
Speaker 1: Somehow we don't get into that. And it's weird enough,
Speaker 1: but we don't get into that. You imagine, maybe it's
Speaker 1: from one club goers phone to another seeing the music,
Speaker 1: who knows all right, the band tries to go on
Speaker 1: without her, so Samantha puts on a wig, fakes the dance, moves,
Speaker 1: tries one cartwheel, and almost dies. That is not an exaggeration.
Speaker 1: That's literally what happened.
Speaker 2: But could we pause and talk about Mom is now
Speaker 2: up there playing Samantha's old role. Correct, So Mom is
Speaker 2: giving the okay for the daughter to put on a
Speaker 2: wig and portray somebody.
Speaker 1: Else, right, who now doesn't need a microphone? Because apparently
Speaker 1: now when you front this band, you no longer need
Speaker 1: a mic now.
Speaker 2: I didn't watch Hannah Montana a lot.
Speaker 1: I never saw it.
Speaker 2: This seems like the the build up. This is what
Speaker 2: the Hannah Montana. She wears wigs when she's performing, and
Speaker 2: then she's like her real persona. She has her Mala
Speaker 2: Cyris's gorgeous brown hair, but on when she's on stage,
Speaker 2: she asked the way a blonde wig? So for me,
Speaker 2: I went, oh my gosh, is this where they figured
Speaker 2: out is pixel perfect? Where they thought of the idea
Speaker 2: for Sannah Montana.
Speaker 1: Which one came first?
Speaker 2: I don't know, A two thousand and four I don't
Speaker 2: remember when Ana Montana came out.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, what what came first, the egg or
Speaker 1: hatching pete?
Speaker 2: Right, So I also don't know if if Hannah Montana
Speaker 2: like the parent part of this, but that really struck
Speaker 2: me very weird that the mom's like, oh, yeah, I'll
Speaker 2: take your part. You go and put a wig on
Speaker 2: and be somebody else and be yes, because you're not
Speaker 2: good enough to take spotlight by yourself.
Speaker 1: Yes, you can't just play the guitar. That was so
Speaker 1: weird to me and be awesome like you were.
Speaker 2: Can't just be cool and guitar? Yes, So that was weird.
Speaker 1: But she was again dear listeners, not an exaggeration. She
Speaker 1: tries one cartwheel.
Speaker 2: But by the looks of the cartwheel, you could tell
Speaker 2: she really wasn't sure about the cartwheel. Well, first of all,
Speaker 2: the actress Leah Pipes, great actress. Yes, cartwheels like a
Speaker 2: six month old if we're being totally honest, and I
Speaker 2: bet you. She was like, I don't. I bet you
Speaker 2: when when if you get a chance to ask her
Speaker 2: and go with the cartwheel? How nervous were you? Do
Speaker 2: you have an experience? She's like, no, I thought I
Speaker 2: was actually going to die.
Speaker 1: I hope that's because if not, then she acted it beautifully.
Speaker 2: Either that or she was a great acting into that cartwheel.
Speaker 1: Because she cartwheels into falling off the stage and ends
Speaker 1: up in a coma. Yeah again, all this is really happening.
Speaker 1: This is when I was going, wait, what so, so
Speaker 1: were you shocked that all of a sudden it turned
Speaker 1: into a coma story.
Speaker 2: Yes, I figured she would get hurt and that would
Speaker 2: when it woke up into the hospital. That's when I
Speaker 2: was like, oh my gosh, what.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she said a coma.
Speaker 2: She did hit the back of her head falling from
Speaker 2: a stage. Okay, but I just wouldn't expect that to
Speaker 2: it would go that serious.
Speaker 1: But you know, no, she's also at the only really
Speaker 1: popular concert where the girl falls back perfectly wanting to
Speaker 1: be caught for a stage dive, and everyone just parts
Speaker 1: the way.
Speaker 2: I would have hoped that one really actually happened. I
Speaker 2: hope you try to help someone.
Speaker 1: Yes, catch somebody, trustfall catch somebody. So Loretta ends up
Speaker 1: jumping into the hospital brain machine, the EKG machine going
Speaker 1: into Samantha's waking her back up, taking over her body
Speaker 1: briefly just so she can experience rain, and then disappears
Speaker 1: and lets Samantha then run the band again, and then
Speaker 1: it ends with it being totally fine that Samantha is
Speaker 1: the lead singer of the band, which leads me to believe,
Speaker 1: why couldn't she have always just been the lead singer
Speaker 1: of the band. She didn't learn it, you know.
Speaker 2: She didn't, But that's what it always should have been.
Speaker 2: And it's just I feel I'm hoping that the story,
Speaker 2: like the moral of the story, was believe in yourself,
Speaker 2: work on you guys, being best at what you do,
Speaker 2: instead of trying to alter and go towards This was
Speaker 2: one person of you know, again, I hate this character.
Speaker 2: I hated him that he was my Oh. I couldn't
Speaker 2: stand that club owner.
Speaker 1: I could not stand oh, yeah, you're not supposed the
Speaker 1: British guy who's just not you're a girl, you can't
Speaker 1: be gone. Yeah, it's like, yeah, it's very weird.
Speaker 2: I could not stand him. One guy. That was one
Speaker 2: guy that should not take your dreams away or make
Speaker 2: you alter what your vision, especially when it comes to art.
Speaker 2: It should be about your vision, not anyone else's, right.
Speaker 2: So I agree, I think that's what it was supposed
Speaker 2: to be. But I do need to again go back
Speaker 2: and talk about these parents for just two seconds. Why
Speaker 2: were they okay with her get being in a coma,
Speaker 2: getting up and then going into the rain. Why if
Speaker 2: she's been in acoma, she should not have the strength
Speaker 2: to be able to do that. Didn't you think that
Speaker 2: was very strange too.
Speaker 1: Yes, you thought maybe they'd say, hey, you've been asleep
Speaker 1: for a week, maybe stay in bed.
Speaker 2: My parents would have been like, I don't care what
Speaker 2: your issue is right now, you're not getting out of bed.
Speaker 2: Not getting out of bed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think my parents probably would have also mentioned
Speaker 1: the girl breaking into pixels and going into the AKG
Speaker 1: that would come up.
Speaker 2: No one brought anything up about that. Nothing.
Speaker 1: Yes, that was a strange ending.
Speaker 2: And they it seemed there was a couple of lines
Speaker 2: where they were on to the fact that it was
Speaker 2: isn't actually Samantha, it.
Speaker 1: Was Loretta, Yes, And Loretta says it's gonna be I'm
Speaker 1: borrow essentially, I'm borrowing her body briefly and I'll give
Speaker 1: it back. And the parents are like, great, you gotta cool. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Disney parents need some work.
Speaker 2: Should we meet you out there?
Speaker 1: Are you gonna come back in here or see you
Speaker 1: after you run around in the lightning and rain?
Speaker 2: Would you like five dollars to get maybe a twist
Speaker 2: out at the vending machine and a dream like what?
Speaker 2: That just didn't make sense at all. I did not
Speaker 2: that part. That's the part that of the movie where
Speaker 2: I was liking it. I was able to get past
Speaker 2: the the web train and then this is when I
Speaker 2: went okay, so and then he kind of flip flopped.
Speaker 2: Was Roscoe more worried about Loretta or worried about Samantha?
Speaker 2: I couldn't really tell the difference yet.
Speaker 1: No, that that also got muddled. It was the ending
Speaker 1: needed I think a bit of a rewrite.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a little bit, because the rest of it was great.
Speaker 2: And again, the actors were great. The music was its great.
Speaker 1: Yes, the visuals were great. It just we needed a
Speaker 1: little tweak on the story. That's what we think of
Speaker 1: the movie. Why don't we get into real reviews and
Speaker 1: see what other people think of the movie. I don't
Speaker 1: ever do this, but I want to call one. I'd
Speaker 1: really like to do the one star review this time,
Speaker 1: So if you could start us off with the five
Speaker 1: star review, that would.
Speaker 2: Be great, all right, Noel starmg my childhood. This movie
Speaker 2: is such a good watch. Can't recommend it enough. Do
Speaker 2: people say that to you you were my childhood?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get it all the time. That's I hear
Speaker 1: that almost more than anything else.
Speaker 2: Yes, you were my childhood. I don't ever know how
Speaker 2: to respond to that.
Speaker 1: I love. I just I'm so honored. It's amazing to
Speaker 1: hear that.
Speaker 2: I love It's so cute. Right, But when girls say
Speaker 2: it and they're still eighteen yearly.
Speaker 1: Still a child, yeah, imagine when they're saying it to
Speaker 1: you and they're thirty five. That's the price. You're my
Speaker 1: childhood and this is my child Like, oh, oh my god,
Speaker 1: oh yeah. The one star review, I don't want to
Speaker 1: say it's my favorite review I've ever heard of any
Speaker 1: movie ever, but it's up there. Mohammed k writes, I
Speaker 1: love all women. That's it. Let that silence roll over you.
Speaker 1: That's that's the one star review. I love all women. Okay.
Speaker 1: So this brings us to a brand new future here
Speaker 1: on Magical Rewind, and it's one that I'm pretty excited
Speaker 1: about and involves a producer husband of the podcast, Jensen Karp,
Speaker 1: and we're calling it Jensen's Hot Take, and Jenson's going
Speaker 1: to join us here.
Speaker 3: Hello, Jensen, Hi, guys. Every once in a while, something
Speaker 3: will come to my brain. I will know that it's
Speaker 3: an extremely hot take. This happens a lot in my life.
Speaker 3: I keep it to myself so that no one yells
Speaker 3: at me. But here in this case, I'm willing to share.
Speaker 1: Okay, we'd love to hear what is What's Jensen's hot
Speaker 1: take this week?
Speaker 3: Pixel Perfect is the best decon we've watched so far.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: And by the way, there the record, that's no offense
Speaker 3: to either of you. I know that we've watched both
Speaker 3: of your films. I just want to let you know
Speaker 3: I think both of those were great. I just think
Speaker 3: this is greater.
Speaker 1: Can I ask why is it? Story?
Speaker 3: The whole segment, Just for the record, the whole segment
Speaker 3: is you asking me questions about why I have this
Speaker 3: hot take, and I'm think.
Speaker 1: Okay, well good, why? Why? Now? What has led you
Speaker 1: to this opinion?
Speaker 3: This movie excels on a level that Disney didn't even
Speaker 3: know the film was on, which is the idea that
Speaker 3: this is a critique and a satire of Silicon Valley
Speaker 3: and the bros that worked there, and they wouldn't even
Speaker 3: necessarily know. Well, that's not true unless they're very by
Speaker 3: the way, to show you that they may have known
Speaker 3: exactly what they were doing. The director of the movie
Speaker 3: is on the cutting edge of computer technology. That's true,
Speaker 3: he's already dealt with these people before, so let's throw
Speaker 3: that in. The characters are perfect for the Reddit male garbage.
Speaker 1: That is.
Speaker 3: Their take on women, right. This guy has a perfectly
Speaker 3: good woman in front of him that likes him amazing,
Speaker 3: she's beautiful, she's sys. He thinks he's doing the world
Speaker 3: a favor with the inventions he's making, and in real life,
Speaker 3: he's actually just making it perfect for himself. This is
Speaker 3: Mark Zuckerberg, this is Elon Musk, this is every single
Speaker 3: technology billionaire we've seen is exactly this kid. And by
Speaker 3: the way, even when at the end of the movie,
Speaker 3: just to show you how much I absolutely connect with
Speaker 3: how genius it was written. At the end of the movie,
Speaker 3: the poor girl is still like I sang good, but
Speaker 3: I was a little pitchy. She still knows she's not perfect,
Speaker 3: and she knows this d bag needs perfection.
Speaker 2: I know he is.
Speaker 3: These social media company owning these guys, at the end
Speaker 3: of the day are just bros. They're not geniuses. They're
Speaker 3: just technically, you know, jerks and it's the it's a
Speaker 3: great way to play into that. And at each turn
Speaker 3: I was like, they're not really gonna do that, are they?
Speaker 1: Are?
Speaker 3: They not really? And every time it was and by
Speaker 3: the way, techno anxiety like it's it's all in this movie, Like, uh,
Speaker 3: it kept my intent attention all the way through. I
Speaker 3: will admit jumping into the brain wave machine may have
Speaker 3: may have been one step too far, but again at
Speaker 3: the end of the movie, right.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe one step too far.
Speaker 3: But I ask you, I ask you, why is Siri?
Speaker 3: Why is Alexa? Why are these all women's voices? Because
Speaker 3: men make them?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: Yes, And that's the whole that's the whole plot of
Speaker 3: the film. Yeah, you know, she tried. And by the way,
Speaker 3: talk about you're talking about how current it is. There's
Speaker 3: a part in the movie where the AI robot tries
Speaker 3: her hardest to write her own music and she's terrible
Speaker 3: at it. She's all she does is take other people's music.
Speaker 3: She's not any good at it. This is the perfect
Speaker 3: commentary that we need right now, for for the for
Speaker 3: the idea that these musicians think they can be replaced. Well,
Speaker 3: there's no heart in it, and that's what and that's
Speaker 3: what the industry is saying back to them, which is
Speaker 3: you could try your hardest, but at the end of
Speaker 3: the day, it doesn't have that. So if you have
Speaker 3: any other questions, please grow the man.
Speaker 1: Do you think that this film did for Ai what
Speaker 1: Luck of the Irish did for Leprechauns.
Speaker 3: Well, well, I like to think the Leprechauns needed the
Speaker 3: work more than Ai and in twenty twenty four, so
Speaker 3: I am true I hold back any sort of critique
Speaker 3: about them because they need the work. But Pixel Perfect, again,
Speaker 3: in comparison to Luck of the Irish, both are obviously trips,
Speaker 3: both are not At times they're messy, But if you
Speaker 3: really look at the meaning of what's going on in
Speaker 3: Pixel Perfect about how men see technology and the music industry,
Speaker 3: there's just so many elements of characters and their true
Speaker 3: motivations that it was working on a different level. And
Speaker 3: by the way, four million dollars is a lot for
Speaker 3: Disney movie. But yeah, when we compare it to like
Speaker 3: other movies and and budgets of other films, if this
Speaker 3: guy was given that he made Spawn, which is a
Speaker 3: decent action movie, he would have done a lot more
Speaker 3: with it. But at its core, this was a sci
Speaker 3: fi nightmare. This was this was a dystopian garbage can
Speaker 3: that we're living in and the movie knew it the
Speaker 3: whole time. And I thought that was really impressive.
Speaker 1: Now do you think it did? Do you think the
Speaker 1: writer actually knew that he was doing this commentary on
Speaker 1: this level? Absolutely?
Speaker 3: I mean, at least maybe not the Welcome Back Cotter guy,
Speaker 3: but the other the other writer was a sci fi
Speaker 3: was like a pretty sci fi writer. Yeah, And he
Speaker 3: wrote dystopian ya novels. That was what he did, and
Speaker 3: so this was right in line with that, which is like,
Speaker 3: if the world turns into this, it's absolutely going to
Speaker 3: be terrible, and we're so close to it, we're actually
Speaker 3: like living in it now. And this movie showed, you know,
Speaker 3: the possibilities and also truly an incredible message about women
Speaker 3: and the way that they're looked at in the industry.
Speaker 1: Wow, Hot take, Hey, hey, hot take all the way around?
Speaker 1: I don't. Yeah, that's amazing. I love how you not
Speaker 1: only can see it on different level, but you're convinced
Speaker 1: they were writing it on a different level. Right.
Speaker 2: That part is my favorite.
Speaker 3: There is also one other person who has an amazing
Speaker 3: I wasn't even going to try to condense it because
Speaker 3: it's just too much, but you might be able to
Speaker 3: find it that she believes that it's not a hologram.
Speaker 3: This is so awesome. And by the way, it's great
Speaker 3: his dad was actually creating a way to bring back
Speaker 3: souls into the bodies of people. That's why there's no
Speaker 3: projector right. And there's also a scene later in the
Speaker 3: movie I think where he goes to they're in the
Speaker 3: hospital and he's like, come with me, I need to
Speaker 3: talk to you, and he's like, no, I'm staying here,
Speaker 3: and he's like, well, there is something I need to
Speaker 3: tell you that. The theory in Reddit is that he
Speaker 3: was going to tell him, like, this is a much
Speaker 3: bigger technology than you think it is. We should we
Speaker 3: should stop it now. And that's why the dad turns
Speaker 3: and is like, we we can't do this anymore anyway, dude.
Speaker 3: I'm really looking forward to Pixel Perfect too.
Speaker 1: I think it's.
Speaker 3: Sequel, but this is my favorite d com so far.
Speaker 3: That's my hot take.
Speaker 1: Wow, thank you so much for joining us, Jensen, I
Speaker 1: love it. Back to the husband of the podcast, Wow, well,
Speaker 1: I mean he's taken it to a whole other level.
Speaker 1: That's the thing about Jensen. It's like talking to Rider.
Speaker 1: It's all of a sudden, you think you just read something,
Speaker 1: and yes, it changes the whole thing. He's right, zuckerbroke
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff right at the end of
Speaker 1: the day. She's still in a coma for trying to
Speaker 1: do a cartwheel.
Speaker 2: Yes, that is unfortunate.
Speaker 1: That will throw me forever.
Speaker 2: I wish it would have been maybe tripped up in
Speaker 2: the wires of something or something. Yeah, little bit more
Speaker 2: than that.
Speaker 1: But wow, Jensen, I don't even want to ask him
Speaker 1: to help us reade it. We know his rating. But
Speaker 1: before we get to our rating system, we need to
Speaker 1: do a Sabrina scenes.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, I have just a couple of them.
Speaker 2: We haven't covered quite a bit of them. I wanted
Speaker 2: to start with the house that they did live in. Now,
Speaker 2: you mentioned that it was much bigger, but if you
Speaker 2: looked at any of the other houses, it was supposed
Speaker 2: to be a modern what you would think like a
Speaker 2: science person would be in, and it was just so
Speaker 2: out of even the background. It looked like they made
Speaker 2: that house. They didn't find the house to film. It
Speaker 2: look like they just made it. It was. It was
Speaker 2: very jarring to me. It was strained. Yeah, the movie
Speaker 2: had a little bit of a slow pickup of things.
Speaker 2: The very first the cat. Could you not tell that
Speaker 2: they were just projecting lights onto the cat? Yeah, it
Speaker 2: did not look like that cat was made. It was.
Speaker 2: It looked like a real cat that they were putting
Speaker 2: like a filter.
Speaker 1: Of bad filter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it did it. It did not work.
Speaker 1: It was technology not the best.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, not great. And then my last thing that
Speaker 2: I just wanted to mention good is I thought you
Speaker 2: would absolutely I know it's not that you didn't notice it.
Speaker 2: But he had a pair of you know, remember and
Speaker 2: bring how he had those glasses that you know, transformed
Speaker 2: him into not being able to be seen. Ross had
Speaker 2: a pair of glasses that made him smart in this movie.
Speaker 1: Oh what did you say at the smart glaves?
Speaker 2: Every time he was working he had glasses on. It
Speaker 2: was like every time, Yes, he didn't look like he
Speaker 2: couldn't see. He wasn't wearing them at school.
Speaker 1: Ever, It just to be.
Speaker 2: Seeing them to be a little bit smarter.
Speaker 1: That was. I saw a great meme the other day
Speaker 1: it said it said, I wonder if anybody ever put
Speaker 1: glasses on Lois Lane's dog and she was like, hey,
Speaker 1: whose dog is this? I've never seen this dog before
Speaker 1: in my life. I thought that was all right. So
Speaker 1: now let's rate the movie. We're gonna do one out
Speaker 1: of ten.
Speaker 2: Oh that reminds me, but I saw the ratings. One more.
Speaker 2: One band we never brought up was we had Moist Tallet,
Speaker 2: but we did not bring up the Infectious Measles.
Speaker 1: Yes, another great name.
Speaker 2: It was a great name. And then when the Infectious
Speaker 2: Measles had to cancel, it was because the lead singer
Speaker 2: got chicken bug.
Speaker 1: That was funny. They do good. They do names. Nobody
Speaker 1: did names like Dcom's all right, So what do we
Speaker 1: do then? One out of ten? Zeta Bytes, Moist Toulettes,
Speaker 1: Hologram Cats, COMBA, brain Wave machines, Information highway truck drivers,
Speaker 1: Infectious Measles. I want to add half assed cartwheels, but whatever,
Speaker 1: all right? So I one out of ten? What one
Speaker 1: being the worst movie you've ever seen? Ten being the
Speaker 1: best we've seen? How many half assed cartwheels? You give
Speaker 1: this one?
Speaker 2: I actually I liked it and I'm going with a
Speaker 2: seven point five.
Speaker 1: You know again, you and I are starting to be
Speaker 1: kind of in the ballpark. And I watched this movie once,
Speaker 1: yes it would have been a four or a five,
Speaker 1: and watching it the second time and now I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be honest hearing Jensen's hot take, Yeah, that's gonna that's
Speaker 1: gonna bump it up a point five for me. I
Speaker 1: was gonna go with the seven. I'm gonna meet you
Speaker 1: at a seven point five. It is a seven point
Speaker 1: five half assed cartwheels for for this movie. It really
Speaker 1: is it? Yeah, so bad, So thank you so much
Speaker 1: for joining us as we unpixelated pixel Perfect, the movie
Speaker 1: that I thought was just a dicon that turned out
Speaker 1: to have this dystopian yes life and my god, it's
Speaker 1: all about silicon what's.
Speaker 2: Going on in two thousand and four?
Speaker 1: No, it's like the Professor of films came on and
Speaker 1: was like, here's what you missed. It's actually about this
Speaker 1: and it's.
Speaker 2: Like, oh my god, Wow, I was still worried about
Speaker 2: that cat.
Speaker 1: That is that's what we're doing the window Where does
Speaker 1: he go?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: Why is the cat blue? And Jensen's like in the
Speaker 1: dystopian society, like, oh okay, we're watching these movies different.
Speaker 2: Where did the cat go? When? He went out the window.
Speaker 2: Is he okay? Oh? Man?
Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much for joining us. The next
Speaker 1: movie we're going to be watching is a two thousand
Speaker 1: and four movie with a good friend of mine and
Speaker 1: going to be friend of the show because he's done
Speaker 1: a bunch of these movies. We're going to be doing
Speaker 1: a blind wrestler movie with our friend and Andy Lawrence. Yes,
Speaker 1: going to the Mat is going to be our next movie.
Speaker 1: And I should be able to tell you that there's
Speaker 1: a chance we're going to be talking to Andy too,
Speaker 1: because the Lawrences are friends of mine and the Lawrences
Speaker 1: are dcom legends, so I'm sure we're going to have
Speaker 1: them all on the show at some point, because man,
Speaker 1: they've done it all. So thank you so much again
Speaker 1: for joining us. And remember to subscribe to our feed
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