1 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: I feel like I look a lot younger than my 2 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 1: age one my skincare two. I've been doing botox and fillers. 3 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 1: I say, do whatever makes you happy, and it's definitely 4 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 1: made me happy. 5 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 2: Mid to late twenties, early thirties is where a lot 6 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 2: of people they're starting to notice the lines. They're faintly 7 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,920 Speaker 2: getting etched when patients come later in their life. Botox 8 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 2: is not going to make it completely gone. 9 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: Now for so long, it's like I would always here, 10 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: especially like in the Latin culture. No, I want a 11 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: woman that's natural, not fake. 12 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 3: What does that even mean? 13 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:39,199 Speaker 2: What up? 14 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 3: Everyone? 15 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,800 Speaker 1: Felis Lunez. Welcome to Cheeky's and Chill Podcast. I'm your 16 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: host Cheeky's and I'm so happy you're here with me today. 17 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: Today we're going to be talking about beauty, especially about 18 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: some non invasive facial procedures. So, without further ado, let's 19 00:00:55,120 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: get into it. This is Cheeky's and Chill. Okay, so 20 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: let's talk about botox and fillers. This is something that 21 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 1: I think used to be frowned upon, but I feel 22 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: like it's becoming more and more in mainstream, which I 23 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: absolutely love because I love botox. I love fillers. I 24 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: love the aesthetic world. I love the beauty industry. I 25 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 1: started getting botox when I was twenty four. I feel 26 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: like perhaps I didn't need it as much then, but 27 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: I got it because I wanted to. Because my business partner, Judy, 28 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 1: who is my business partner in Befall of Skin, she 29 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: has her own aesthetic spa in Corona, and I would 30 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 1: go see her for facials and things like that, and 31 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: she's the one that suggested. She's like, you should start 32 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 1: getting botox to prevent and I'm so glad she did 33 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: because I feel like I look a lot younger than 34 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: my age. One my skincare and two I've been doing 35 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 1: botox and fillers for a while, actually botox first, and 36 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: then I started getting fillers just a couple of years ago. 37 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: But yeah, I love it, and I say, heck yes, 38 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: do whatever makes you happy, and it's definitely me very happy. 39 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: So now that I've shared a little bit about my 40 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: experience with this stuff, I want to welcome our guest, 41 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 1: Janille Brown. She's an aesthetic nurse practitioner based in Santa Monica. 42 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: She's been in the industry since twenty thirteen, so I'm 43 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: so happy she's here. Welcome Danil, How are you good. 44 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me. 45 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: Of course, I went like on a whole like thing 46 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 1: about like bio talks, and I started at twenty four. 47 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: I mean, maybe I didn't need it, but I feel 48 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 1: like it's important to prevent. And also if you're like 49 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,880 Speaker 1: a little older and you have like superficial like you know, 50 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:37,399 Speaker 1: lines and stuff like that, like I'm so for botox 51 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: and filler. By the way, you guys, I wish you 52 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: guys could see this woman. She's so beautiful. Oh my gosh, 53 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: you are very pretty. 54 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 2: I'm like, look at you. I'm like, look at you. 55 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 2: Start at twenty four, you look amazing. 56 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 3: Oh, thank you so much. 57 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's because you know now, I think people are 58 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 1: more open about it. But yeah, a lot of people 59 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: have questions. A lot of people, especially like in the 60 00:02:57,280 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: Latin culture. I feel like they are afraid. I mean 61 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: maybe yes, because they're like, okay, how much is it 62 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: going to be? First of all, and then also because 63 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: they've heard different things. So I just I'm glad that 64 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:08,920 Speaker 1: you're here so we can talk about all that stuff. 65 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 4: Yes, we can talk about all of it anything. 66 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 3: Okay, awesome. 67 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: So first of all, tell us a little bit about 68 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: how you got into the beauty industry, because you did 69 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: start off as a nurse. 70 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 3: Correct. 71 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 2: Yes, so I'm a nurse practitioner and in twenty thirteen, 72 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 2: I was just offered a job in a medspall. I 73 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 2: was interviewing for an er emergency room and the girl 74 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 2: that I met said, Hey, you should come to my medspall. 75 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 2: You can inject botox and fillers. I did not know 76 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 2: what that was at all. I was either twenty four 77 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 2: or twenty five and we had just moved to LA 78 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 2: and I was like, I don't even know what that is, Like, 79 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 2: I can't help you, Like I've never learned about that. 80 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 2: I thought it was just like people on TV and 81 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 2: like super fancy. She's like, just come check it out. 82 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 2: She's like, people would love this opportunity, just see what 83 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 2: it's about. So I had this like preconceived thought when 84 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 2: I went to the clinic it was just like regular women. 85 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 2: And then I was like hearing their stories all throughout 86 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 2: the day about why they get stuff, how they feel 87 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 2: more beautiful, how they just look normal, like they wouldn't 88 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 2: look like, you know, some people think it's going to 89 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 2: be plastic or you're gonna look fake, and I didn't 90 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 2: experience that at all, so I was like, oh, this 91 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 2: is pretty neat and people are happy to be here, 92 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 2: and so yeah, I took the job. I learned, they 93 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 2: taught me a lot, and then I, you know, I've 94 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 2: been doing this now for nine years. I just continue 95 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 2: to like learn as I'm going through it. 96 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's because the beauty industry. 97 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: It's just I feel like so fulfilling, Like it just 98 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: makes you happy, like to make other people happy, you 99 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like I don't know, like it's 100 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: very different, but I had like a blow dry bar 101 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 1: it's called blow me Dry, and I did makeup and 102 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: blow dries and all kinds of stuff. It was just 103 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: beautifying yourself and it just the people, like women even 104 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: men would walk in there and get their haircuts and 105 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 1: their hair blow dried and their makeup done, and it's 106 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: just like they walked in one person and walked out 107 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: another person. And I feel like, this is why I 108 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: love the beauty industry so much. I love the aesthetic world. 109 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: So it's because of that because you just feel more confident. 110 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 1: You just yeah, and then let's be honest in the 111 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 1: society that we live in. There's so much pressure subconsciously 112 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: or consciously on social media where you're like I should 113 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: look like that, blah blah blah. So when you do 114 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: a little something for yourself like that, you just feel like, 115 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: oh okay, my smile changes a little bit, you know. 116 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, my patients tell me they just feel refreshed, 117 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 2: They feel rested. They don't have to like put as 118 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 2: much makeup, Like they're like, I can get ready quicker. 119 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 2: Just little things like people don't know what I did, 120 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 2: but they're like, you look good. 121 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the word refreshed. Have you gotten any botox 122 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: yourself or like fillers and stuff. 123 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 2: I've done my whole face every time I like post 124 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 2: about what I've done on social media like TikTok and 125 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 2: things like people just want to see more. 126 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, those ones go viral. 127 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 2: I think probably the biggest thing is like my underree filler. 128 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 2: Oh right, I've done everything I've been eyes, cheeks, temples, chin. 129 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: I just started my chin because again, you guys, I 130 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: am maturing. I started doing my cheeks like right like 131 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: by the eye area, and it just lifts everything up. 132 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:11,919 Speaker 1: I don't know what it's called exactly, but like the 133 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: needle goes straight in. I feel like it doesn't hurt 134 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: that bad. To be honest, I feel like I don't know, 135 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: but I've done that. I just started doing that and 136 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: then now I'm doing I grind my teeth, so they're 137 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 1: doing this. 138 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 3: What is this called? 139 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 2: So we do massiters so are jaw muscles to like 140 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 2: relax the muscles, so it helps with clinching and headaches, 141 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 2: grinding jaw pain. 142 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, I started doing that and if I feel like 143 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: it's kind of thinned out my face a little bit more. 144 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 3: So we started with that. But anyways, you look great. 145 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 1: You look amazing, by the way, So like, I love 146 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: the under I need to do more under eye you guys, 147 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: because I'm getting like the dark short. Yeah, do you 148 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: inject yourself? I'm sure you don't, right, you have someone 149 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 1: else that injects you, right, I mean. 150 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 4: I've had my colleagues do it. 151 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 2: But sometimes I'm just like, let me do what I 152 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 2: need to do. 153 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 3: Okay. 154 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 1: See, I think I would be like you. I'd be like, 155 00:06:57,839 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: you know what, I know what I'm doing, I know 156 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: what I want. I could do it myself. 157 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 2: I know people are like that's dangerous. I mean, I 158 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 2: know what I like you said, I know what I'm 159 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 2: trying to do. I just sit there and I can 160 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 2: be focused and yeah, nice. 161 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 3: Okay. 162 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: So when you're seeing your clients, is there like a 163 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: certain approach that you take, Like do you let your 164 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,559 Speaker 1: clients just tell you, hey, I don't like this or whatnot? 165 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 3: Or do you suggest stuff? 166 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:21,679 Speaker 4: I do both. 167 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 2: So for me, it's always a conversation with my patients. 168 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 2: I've been seeing some of the same people for the 169 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 2: past nine years, and I tell them every time you 170 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 2: come in the chair, we're going to talk about what 171 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 2: you're seeing. That's really going to help guide me. Because 172 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 2: if somebody comes in and there's this little line that's 173 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 2: like such a big deal to them, I want to 174 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:41,560 Speaker 2: make sure we can address that and not just like 175 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 2: into them. If that's like they're big thing, I want 176 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 2: to make sure we can focus on it. But what 177 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 2: I am thinking about when I look at somebody's face 178 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 2: is like, I'm also considering what's beneath the skin. So 179 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 2: you might say, like something's going on with my cheeks. 180 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 2: I'm thinking about the muscles, the fat pads, the bone, 181 00:07:57,240 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 2: how things are changing with aging, with weight loss, and 182 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:03,239 Speaker 2: so a lot of it is conversing with the patients, 183 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 2: making sure they can understand what I'm doing, why I'm 184 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 2: trying to do it, but really understanding the aging process. 185 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 4: So talking to them about where we lose volume. 186 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 2: You know, people will start noticing lines just with aging 187 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 2: or weight loss from their under eyes, like kind of 188 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 2: split into their cheek, and then the smile lines so 189 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 2: like from the nose kind of curves down and then 190 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 2: from the corners of their mouth kind of down, and 191 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 2: it's like little details. And so I'll talk with them 192 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 2: and I always say, look, the stuff I'm presenting is 193 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 2: not to ever be mean. 194 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 4: I'm not trying to hurt people's feelings. 195 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 2: I'm like, if you're open to it, here I can 196 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 2: tell you what I see from you know, the medical side, 197 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 2: and how we can approach that. And there's going to 198 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 2: be some things that there's just limitations we won't be 199 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 2: able to do with botox and fillers like non surgically, 200 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,599 Speaker 2: but here's how we can achieve X, Y and Z 201 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 2: if we can achieve what they're going for. 202 00:08:53,160 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, So I think that's super important, just to be 203 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: completely like transparent. I mean, would you ever say to 204 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: someone like, no, I don't think that's a good idea 205 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 1: or do you just do what they what they ask for? 206 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 2: Oh no, we definitely have a conversation. If there's something 207 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:10,600 Speaker 2: that we don't see eye to eye, I tell the 208 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 2: patients like, let's table this today. I want us to 209 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 2: both be on the same page if we're doing something 210 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 2: and there's going to be sometimes like if we just 211 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 2: you know, if I'm just like I really don't think 212 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 2: that's going to serve you. Here's why we have those conversations, 213 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 2: Like I'm not going to be just like do any 214 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 2: and everything. I want people to feel beautiful. And most 215 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 2: people that come to me they kind of know my 216 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 2: aesthetic already, so I don't get super over the top 217 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 2: like crazy request. A lot of people that find me, 218 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:39,959 Speaker 2: they see my work and they're like, oh, people look 219 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,680 Speaker 2: like themselves. Like I said, they refreshing right, Like that's 220 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 2: what I'm going for, Like I want to look like 221 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 2: me maybe five years ago or like I wasn't noticing 222 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 2: these shadows or now my concealer is not covering what 223 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 2: it used to. So most people that find me are 224 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 2: like they already like my aesthetic. 225 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: Okay, your style of doing things right where it's like 226 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: I want to look natural, like I want to look 227 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: like you said myself, you know, because I don't know 228 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: a lot of people might not know this. Okay, but 229 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: I'm thirty seven, so I started when I was twenty four. 230 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 1: A lot of people come up to me, especially when 231 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: I have no makeup on, and they're like, oh my gosh, 232 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: you look like you're twenty eight. And I honestly think 233 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,240 Speaker 1: it's one because I do my best to take care 234 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,719 Speaker 1: of myself, especially with like my skincare and botox and 235 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: fillers have been a big thing. I feel like it's 236 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 1: better to start personally earlier on so that you keep 237 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: that refreshed look, so when people start doing it when 238 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: they need it, it's more noticeable and it's kind of like, 239 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: oh shit, would that person do? It depends each style, 240 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: Like if that's like your thing and you want to 241 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: look a certain way, then that's what it is, you 242 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: know what I mean. But for me, it's like I've 243 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: always thought of preventing. How can I prevent? I just 244 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 1: started also getting botox here in my neck. You guys, 245 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: that has been freaking amazing, Okay, because I was like, 246 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 1: something's going out with my neck. I'm sorry to notice 247 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 1: a little something, yes, And they put like a bunch 248 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: of them here, like like kind of like a corsett 249 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: that she created with botox. Which that's one thing that 250 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 1: I was like, dude, it made a huge difference. And 251 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: then I started getting like the upside down smile when 252 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: you were talking about like the corner of your mouth. 253 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:10,559 Speaker 3: Now it's starting to come back. Yeah, I need to 254 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 3: go see it. 255 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 4: Anytime we can do it. 256 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 2: I know. It's just like these little things I treat patients. 257 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 2: I treat everybody, but a lot of my people come 258 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 2: like mid twenties to like late forties, and that's when 259 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 2: they're just like something is going on. Most people are 260 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,560 Speaker 2: kind of like I'm almost thirty five, so kind of 261 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 2: around our age. You're just like, what's going on? 262 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 4: Like some things are changing. They're like I. 263 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 2: Woke up like this. I didn't have these lines. They 264 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 2: probably didn't wake up like this, but all of a 265 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 2: sudden they see it, and like once you see it, 266 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 2: it's kind. 267 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 4: Of hard to unsee it. 268 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 2: That's what prompted me to get stuff too. I have 269 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,080 Speaker 2: two kids, and after my first one, I breastfed for 270 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 2: so long, I like, you know, I gained weight and 271 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 2: I lost a bunch of weight from feeding the baby 272 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:55,959 Speaker 2: and like I. 273 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 4: Just look gaunt. 274 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 2: I was like, this is not what I'm used to seeing. 275 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 2: And so that's where I was like, what can I 276 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,679 Speaker 2: do to like make me look like myself? And I 277 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 2: will tell you people didn't even know. Like people always 278 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 2: think like I can tell every person that does lipfill er. 279 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 2: I can tell anybody that gets botox. They don't know, 280 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 2: like nobody knew. 281 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:17,599 Speaker 4: That's like nobody. But my best friend. 282 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 2: From like high school, he's like, what do you mean 283 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 2: you He's like, I didn't I knew you did it 284 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 2: to people, Like I didn't know you were putting it 285 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 2: in your face. 286 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, Like how do you think I keep showing up 287 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 4: looking the same as I fool? 288 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 3: Yeah? 289 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: I think it also has a lot to do with 290 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: your style or how you do it. You know, you 291 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:34,719 Speaker 1: don't overdo it. You know, there are people out there 292 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: that want to look done up or really change the 293 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: structure of your face. And that's totally all right. I'm 294 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 1: just that type of person that's like I want to 295 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: just like where I've lost volume, I'm aging, and I 296 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: want to age gracefully, you know a quote unquote gracefully. 297 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 3: But I mean, I do you know that's just my thing. 298 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 3: I'm all about. 299 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 1: Dude, do your plastic surgery, do whatever the heck you 300 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: want to do. But you know what I really like 301 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: about you. It sounds like you really care about your 302 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: patients and making them the best versus how much money 303 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 1: you can make. You know what I mean, because if not, 304 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: you say yes to everything and be like, yeah, that's 305 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: what you want whatever. But I think it's all about longevity. 306 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 1: It's like, I want to be in this industry for 307 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: a long time, and it's literally your name behind all 308 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: these faces. I love that I can already tell that 309 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: about you. 310 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 2: So I that's like I said, I've been treating some 311 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 2: of the same people for the past nine years, and 312 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 2: then I treat their mom, and then their daughter, and 313 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 2: then their sister and then their best friend. So I 314 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 2: treat like families, and then my patients kind of become 315 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 2: like a part of my family. It's really nice because 316 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 2: I tell my patients, like before they even come into clinic, 317 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 2: I already pre consult with every person, like on zoom. 318 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 2: I want to know like kind of what's driving them, 319 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 2: what are they seeing, Like, tell me about your what 320 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 2: do you do for work? Because I'm going to treat 321 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 2: like a person that gets their money from like being 322 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 2: on OnlyFans, different than somebody that's like I'm a school teacher, 323 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 2: Like I need to know what drives them, what are 324 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 2: they seeing, what are they trying to go for? Like 325 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:58,440 Speaker 2: the more I know about them, the better I can 326 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 2: serve them them. So I'm like, I have to like 327 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 2: talk with you and know what's going on. And I 328 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 2: probably talk too much to them, and I ask too 329 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 2: many questions and I explained stuff way too much. 330 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 4: But I'm like, I'm putting a needle in. 331 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 2: Your face, like this is not a random thought, this 332 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 2: is not a random product, and like what I do 333 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 2: on you could be completely different than your twin sister. 334 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: I love that you ask about like their career what 335 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 1: they do on a daily basis, because it's like you 336 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: want it to be fitting to what they do. It's 337 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: not like a I think that's amazing that you ask 338 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 1: so many questions. I think that that wow. I mean, 339 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: and it's crazy because usually like people do consultations, but 340 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: they're fairly just quick and straight to the point. But 341 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: if you're like really like, hey, you're a teacher and 342 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: you want to just look refreshed, you know, what I mean, like, 343 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: it does change because even if you're on television, like 344 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: I come out on television a lot, and that's where 345 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: I started noticing my next situation where I was like 346 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: I started seeing myself. I was like, oh wait, like 347 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: I turn a certain way and I'm like, I'm not 348 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: liking that, you know what I mean? 349 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 3: And I don't know. 350 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: So it's been really helping me. Oh, I just I 351 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: don't know. I want more, Okay, I'm just I'm obsessed 352 00:14:57,920 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: with this stuff, guys. 353 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 3: Whatever. I don't care what anyone thinks. 354 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: I just feel like is part of an investing in 355 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: yourself for you to feel better and what I do 356 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: you know on TV, like I need to feel good. 357 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 3: Okay, so you're gonna judge me. Whatever. 358 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: What are some like popular procedures, like what what do 359 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: people come in for most? 360 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 2: So I really I'm like facial injectibles. A lot of 361 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 2: people come to me for under underreyes, nose, jaw lines, 362 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 2: and then everybody like lips. I do that day in 363 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 2: day out, TMJ botox, which you kind of mentioned earlier 364 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 2: for the jaw pain, and then cosmetic botox. I mean 365 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 2: this is what I do all day Okay. 366 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: So one thing I just recently learned as well. Botox 367 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: is basically the name brand. 368 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:48,120 Speaker 3: Correct. 369 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: Like there's like I started doing Disport and Botox. 370 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 3: Do you prefer one versus the other. It's the same thing. 371 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 3: It's just different brands. Correct. 372 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 4: Yeah. 373 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 2: We have four in the United States that are currently 374 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 2: FDA approof. So we have Botox, this ZM, and Javo. 375 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 2: I offer Botox E Sports ZMN. 376 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 4: I've used Davou. I love it too. 377 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 2: I tell patients if you have like everybody knows Botox 378 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 2: because they make commercials and stuff. They don't usually know 379 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 2: the other brands. I tell patients try one and see 380 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 2: if you have a preference. A lot of people can't 381 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 2: tell a difference. They're all FDA approved for three to 382 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 2: four months. Some people can. I mean I can say 383 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 2: I like Disport like, but I like them all uh huh. 384 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 385 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: I've tried Botox and I've tried Disport and now that's 386 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: what I'm using now, and I really I really like it. 387 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: I feel like it kicks in a little faster and 388 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:32,359 Speaker 1: it lasts. 389 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 3: A little longer for me. A lot of people say that, Yeah, I've. 390 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: Really liked it and it are like lip fillers. Still 391 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 1: super popular. Are people still coming in a lot for that? 392 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 3: Yeah? 393 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:42,720 Speaker 1: And the jawline, Like, I feel like just the last 394 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: two years have just got it's gone like freaking bananas. 395 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 2: I think people are seeing themselves on camera more. And 396 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 2: like when you were saying the part about you seeing 397 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 2: yourself on in front of the camera, that is what 398 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 2: helped me like to become a better injector. It's la 399 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 2: so everybody's on camera and gorgeous people like will come 400 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 2: to me and like I see this line. I'm like, 401 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 2: I don't see a line, what are you talking about? 402 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 2: But when they show me their film or their photos 403 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 2: and they're like, I keep getting edited out or look 404 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 2: from this angle, I was like, oh, so I had 405 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 2: to like start learning those little details that are really impactful. 406 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:16,919 Speaker 2: But now I think, you know, people are seeing themselves 407 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 2: on zoom or whatever social media if they're posting and 408 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 2: they're starting to see like little things and then the filter. 409 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 2: They're like, well if I filter my face like this, 410 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 2: you know. They like the little jawline thing, so. 411 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 3: Nice little defined snatch jawline. 412 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:30,239 Speaker 1: You know. 413 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:31,199 Speaker 3: I tried. 414 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: I won in ones and I asked, I was like, hey, 415 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: what do you think about me? Defining a little bit more. 416 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 1: And what she had suggested at the time was for 417 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: me to do I can never pronounce it right guypella 418 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: like guy pell what is that called kuybella? 419 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 3: There you go. 420 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 1: So she suggested that under my chin to get rid 421 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: of that fat, and then we were gonna like look 422 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 1: at it later. But I mean, I don't know, I 423 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: kind of sometimes feel like I want a little bit more. 424 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 1: I don't know, the more I look, like you said, 425 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:01,919 Speaker 1: on social media, you know, you're on Snapchat or you 426 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 1: do like whatever, like you know, like the front camera 427 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,160 Speaker 1: just shows you so many different things, or even face tune. 428 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: Now with down face tune, you go in there, you're like, oh, Dane, 429 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: I don't know I had that. You're like smoothing everything out. 430 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:13,679 Speaker 1: So I think that's also I hadn't thought about that 431 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: until you said it, where I'm like, people are noticing 432 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 1: it more, and that's why I think this industry is 433 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: growing as much as it is because of social media. 434 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 2: I mean, it's a hard it's a hard balance because 435 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 2: I you know, again, I get people in there that 436 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 2: are just dropped in gorgeous and I'm like, gosh, and 437 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 2: they're seeing you like, well, when I filter like this, 438 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 2: and I'm like, gosh, Like, sometimes we have those conversations 439 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 2: where it's like maybe not like, you're not going to 440 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 2: look exactly like this filter, even if I put a 441 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:39,879 Speaker 2: ton of filler, like, you're not. 442 00:18:39,880 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 4: Going to have no lines at all on your face. 443 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:45,119 Speaker 2: So sometimes it's just like do we want to do this? 444 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 2: Like you know, what is the root that you're really 445 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 2: trying to get to. We just have those conversations to 446 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 2: make sure I don't know, I don't want this thing 447 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 2: where I'm like, it's not going. 448 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 4: To be you. 449 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 2: You're not going to be happy with this at the 450 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 2: end of the day because they're trying to chase some 451 00:18:57,320 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 2: unrealistic thing to achieve. 452 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 4: So mm hmm. 453 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,119 Speaker 1: Now that you mentioned that, I do have a friend 454 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: that uses this one filter I think on Instagram, and 455 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 1: she was using it so much that it's just kind 456 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: of it made her obviously want to really look like that. 457 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 1: And she went somewhere and it's so crazy that you 458 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 1: said that she went and she said, I want to 459 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: look like I look with this filter on. 460 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 3: Her lips were a little. 461 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 1: Bit thicker, you know, fuller, I mean, and then her 462 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: jawline and they were just like, I think it's just 463 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 1: getting way too into people's heads. And I think my 464 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: personal thing is like I still want to look like Jenney, 465 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 1: like Cheeky's, but I just want to look like rejuvenated, 466 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 1: you know. But we have to be realistic about it 467 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: as well and listen to people like listen to your 468 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: to your asthetic nurse, you know, and listen to them 469 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: they know best. Okay, that's my only advice. 470 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 2: Men. 471 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: Men are also doing it a lot more. I've noticed 472 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 1: that they're getting a little bit more comfortable. They're going 473 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 1: in for sure, for their chins, They're going in for 474 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,959 Speaker 1: their jawline botox. Now, eyes are getting a little bit 475 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: more comfortable. Are you seeing more men now? 476 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 2: Oh I had a men's botox party last week. I 477 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 2: see men. Oh yeah, yeah, Like it's really cool when 478 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 2: they like let me share their stories and put up videos, 479 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:16,640 Speaker 2: and a lot of them are very comfortable and they're 480 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 2: just like, yeah, I do this for me, Like I 481 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 2: don't like these lines and they're getting deep, or my 482 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 2: dad has these lines and I don't want to look 483 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 2: like I'm so angry. 484 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 4: I don't have to look frozen and plastic. 485 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 2: But the guys want to look good too, And I 486 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 2: mean I see young, I see old, I see black, white, 487 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 2: I see everybody. 488 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: I said, I was going to ask you, is it 489 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: more Latino, more white black guys? 490 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 2: Like I see everybody like I mean, And I've had 491 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:42,960 Speaker 2: guys that come in and I'm like treating them and 492 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 2: then they're like, oh, I need to refer my wife. 493 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh okay, like it usually is like the 494 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 2: life refers a husband. But I've seen it both ways, 495 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 2: and they look like them saying refresh. You wouldn't know 496 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,479 Speaker 2: they did something, but they just look good. I can 497 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 2: even see like the confident It's increasing each time I 498 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 2: see them, and like from their before photos to their 499 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 2: after photos kind of like the little glimmer in their eyes, 500 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 2: Like yep, guys want to look like they like the 501 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 2: masculine jaw they like, you know, their nose they like, 502 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 2: and they like botox and TMJ. I do that a 503 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 2: lot too. 504 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,119 Speaker 3: Nice. See, I'm not mad at that. I think that 505 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 3: that a guy. 506 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 1: I love a guy that gets a pedicare at a 507 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,120 Speaker 1: manicure and wants to go and like get his you know, 508 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: his little frown lines done or his crow's feet, you 509 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like I got my boyfriend to 510 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: do it for the first time. I took him to 511 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: go get his He wanted like his chin a little 512 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 1: bit like more defied and stuff, and he absolutely loved it. 513 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: He's like, what the heck, why didn't I know about 514 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: this before? 515 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 2: You know? 516 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 3: So I think it's awesome. Does your husband do it? 517 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:45,199 Speaker 3: Does he go to you or no? 518 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 2: He so for years he's like, like, don't do stuff 519 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:49,919 Speaker 2: and I was like, you can do X y Z. 520 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 2: He's like no, and then he started. I get like 521 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 2: a lot of skincare from the companies and stuff, and 522 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 2: sometimes I just can't use it all. But he kept 523 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:59,199 Speaker 2: like walking around with eye patches and I was like, 524 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 2: why do you keep wearing those? And he's like, well, 525 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 2: you're not using them. So I was like, do you 526 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 2: just want like some filler under your eyes? It's like 527 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,400 Speaker 2: if you need a before and after for your page. 528 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 4: Oh, Like, I don't do it. 529 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,679 Speaker 2: So we did like everything we did his photos with 530 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,119 Speaker 2: his eyes, he did his chin and he's like, I 531 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,919 Speaker 2: don't see difference. I'm like, you don't see difference, But 532 00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 2: everybody at his work was like, what did you guys do? 533 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 2: He was good, Like his face definitely looks brighter, and yeah, 534 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:29,080 Speaker 2: he stop wearing the eype patches. 535 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 1: Thank goodness that guys are getting more comfortable with it, 536 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 1: because for so long, it's like, you know, I would 537 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,160 Speaker 1: always hear, especially like in the Latin culture, it's kind 538 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 1: of like, no, I want a woman that's natural or 539 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 1: not fake quote unquote. I'm like, what does that even mean? 540 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 1: First of all, like not fake natural, like shut up, 541 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: you're not even gonna notice person all. But now like, 542 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: thank goodness, they're more open to it, and it's just like, dude, 543 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: it's my face. I want to look pretty for myself 544 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: and for you, you know, but like what's your take on that? 545 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: Like someone that would come in and be like, well, 546 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to look quote unquote fake. 547 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,640 Speaker 4: Everybody says it every day, But. 548 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 2: I think when they I have them really like look 549 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 2: at my stuff beforehand, I want them to understand like 550 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 2: what I'm doing, my approach, my pictures, and so then 551 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,479 Speaker 2: they already know, like they're like, oh, well, all your 552 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 2: people look like themselves, they look fresh. 553 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 4: So they always say. 554 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,199 Speaker 2: It like I just want to look like myself. I 555 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 2: want to look natural. I don't want to look fake. 556 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 2: But they're like I'm coming to you because I see 557 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 2: your work. I like your aesthetic, and that's what I'm 558 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,640 Speaker 2: going for. And I'm not saying like I'm the end 559 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,120 Speaker 2: all be all, like I'm the beauty master, because other 560 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 2: people may want something that's even less dramatic than I 561 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 2: do or more dramatic, and they're going to find like 562 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 2: their injector that serves them. So it's really about like 563 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 2: doing that research, having those conversations, finding somebody's aesthetic style 564 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 2: that you like, and then you feel like you can trust, 565 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 2: you can ask questions. 566 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, my only thing to those of you that are 567 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: listening that maybe have not gotten botox or fillers because 568 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: of what other people would think or you're afraid. Honestly, 569 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: it's really, at the end of the day, your complete choice. 570 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 1: Like I don't think anyone should have a say in it. Besides, like, 571 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:10,479 Speaker 1: if you want to look a certain way and if 572 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 1: you don't want to ever do it, don't do it. 573 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: That's totally fine, you know, but don't let anyone else 574 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: come in and tell you not to. Like I've been 575 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: doing it for X amount of years and it's been 576 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 1: great and I love it, and I think that I'm 577 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: always gonna work towards that, and I always put some 578 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 1: money just to the side for it because it's something 579 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: that makes me happy and I like to invest in myself. 580 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,199 Speaker 1: But that was just a little something I wanted to 581 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: also share because it's great to be natural and not 582 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: get anything done. That's awesome, that's amazing, and it's also 583 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 1: great if you want to just do whatever you want 584 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 1: to do yourself, you know exactly. 585 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 3: No one should judge. 586 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: Personally, that's just I don't know. Sometimes it just irritates 587 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: me because it's like, oh, no, you're not natural. 588 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 3: Oh my goodness. I'm just like, oh whatever, give them 589 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 3: the finger. 590 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: So what is like, in your opinion, a good age 591 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 1: to start getting botox or fillers. 592 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 2: I tell people that's totally up to you. But I 593 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:14,400 Speaker 2: will say, like usually mid to late twenties, early thirties 594 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 2: is where a lot of people come. They're starting to 595 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 2: notice like the lines are faintly getting etched, and they 596 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 2: usually are getting annoyed by that. When patients come later 597 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 2: in their life and like late forties, mid forties, and 598 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 2: if they haven't taken care of their skin, if they 599 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 2: have really deep lines, they get disappointed when I tell them, look, 600 00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 2: these lines are etched, like botox is not going to 601 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 2: make it completely gone now, like they've been set in 602 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 2: on the skin now, so then they're kind of like, well, 603 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 2: what can I do? How do I get rid of them? 604 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 2: And that, well, we can't, like they're there so preventative. 605 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 2: Like I used to think it was a big hoax 606 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,199 Speaker 2: when I first started, but it works, like you know, 607 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 2: if the muscles are not actively making those strong lines, 608 00:25:58,400 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 2: they're never going to get set in. 609 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 1: And that's one of the reasons that I actually started 610 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,400 Speaker 1: botox was because I was afraid. My whole family has this. 611 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 1: It's hereditary. It's the line right here, what is it 612 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 1: called the eleven or whatnot, right on your eyebrows. Yes, 613 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 1: so my grandpa has it, my uncles have it, my mom. 614 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 1: My mom started doing botoks a little later in her life, 615 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 1: but she she didn't get it because she started getting 616 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,439 Speaker 1: like fillers and stuff, so she did it right on 617 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: time before it like stuck. So that was in my 618 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: head all the time, and I was like, I don't 619 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: want that line. Even some of my cousins have it, 620 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: you know, And that's one of the reasons I was like, 621 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 1: I'm going to start this now because and then the 622 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: under the bags as well. So that's why I started 623 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:38,919 Speaker 1: doing under I have my sister Jackie on it, like 624 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: I sent her down to my business partner. I sent 625 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: her to her and I was like, you need to go. 626 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: And I think I gave her a gift card for 627 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 1: Christmas because she's a mom of four. She's married, so 628 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: she's always just the kids and this. And then I'm like, girl, 629 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: you need to care yourself. You need to care yourself 630 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: for yourself and for your husband. So she started getting 631 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 1: She did this thing on her underways and it looks 632 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: great because we all like you have to know, look 633 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: at your family, look at the elders in your family, 634 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: and be like, Okay, that's probably where I'm heading. If 635 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: I want to prevent that stuff, maybe I should start. 636 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 1: Now that's my personal opinion. 637 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 2: I agree, And I mean, you know, if people don't 638 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,119 Speaker 2: want to, I get it. Some people are just like 639 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 2: I don't want to do that or whatever. It's a 640 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 2: finance is thing. Like at the basic at the very least, 641 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 2: I'm like, worse on block. Use a retinoid, Like. 642 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 4: Yes, you like the skin stuff, because that's also going 643 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 4: to take you long, like long. 644 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: Sure skincare you, guys is huge. I have my own 645 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 1: skincare line and I've been doing since I was sixteen. 646 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: I was just so into like all the seventeen magazines 647 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 1: and all that stuff, and I just love skincare and 648 00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,360 Speaker 1: I'm so glad that I did because I'm huge on SPF. 649 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: Like I'm one to say where it every single day, 650 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 1: even if it's cloudy outside, even if it's winter, it 651 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 1: does not matter. You will save yourself a ton of 652 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 1: trouble in the future. Again, preventing, I'm all about preventative. 653 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 1: One thing that a lot of people ask and I 654 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: wanted you to clarify a little bit, was can botox 655 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:57,680 Speaker 1: and filler be dissolved. 656 00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 3: I know that filler can, but I don't know about botox. 657 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 2: Botox is not going to be dissolved, but your body, 658 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 2: you're going to metabolize it and it's going to wear 659 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 2: off in a few months. So in the clinical trials 660 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,679 Speaker 2: when they did botox, they did like twenty units in 661 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 2: the frown, twenty in the forehead, twelve on each eye, 662 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,159 Speaker 2: so sixty four units, and they measured for most people 663 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,919 Speaker 2: it lasts three to four months. So even let's say 664 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 2: you get botox and you're just like I don't like this, 665 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 2: like I hate it, which like nobody ever says, but 666 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:28,119 Speaker 2: no one else, nobody ever says that. But if you 667 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,840 Speaker 2: don't like it, it's gonna wear off completely. Yeah, and 668 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 2: like you don't have to do it again. I just 669 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,199 Speaker 2: tell patients like, it's gonna be fine, so you can't 670 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 2: reverse it, but it'll come off, it'll wear off. 671 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 672 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: That's one thing that I've noticed also that when I 673 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: work out more, my botox like it, it fades away, 674 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: you know, a lot sooner, you know, so you just 675 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: have to do it a little more often. It's when 676 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: I'm not like right now, I'm not working out as 677 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: much as I used to. But when I did, it 678 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: was just like boom, like you could totally like I 679 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 1: was like, damn, it's hardy. 680 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 3: It's only been two months, you know. 681 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,520 Speaker 1: But it's just it's basically not necessarily like what it's 682 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 1: made out of sugar, but it's like metabolizes in your 683 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: body like sugar. I have friends that it lasts anywhere 684 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: from three to even five months. 685 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 3: It just all depends. 686 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: So but I know for sure filler you can dissolve, 687 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 1: right like with some type of solution or something like 688 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 1: that like lips and stuff, right. 689 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 2: Yes, so we can use It's an enzyme called Hierlana 690 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 2: day or hy LINEX, and so it's it's like a 691 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 2: clear liquid and we can inject it and it'll break 692 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 2: down filler. So I can talk about like the important 693 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 2: like safety stuff behind filler, just because I do think 694 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 2: there's a lot of like I always see these on 695 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 2: social media where people are like You're gonna go blind 696 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 2: with filler or it's always gonna migrate. 697 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, because that's what I was gonna tell you, like 698 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: a little bit more information, because these are the two 699 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 1: biggest misconceptions. It's the migration the filler migration, like is 700 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: it gonna move? 701 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 4: Is it? 702 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:47,560 Speaker 3: Yes? 703 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: Am I gonna become blind if I do filler underneath 704 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: my eye? Another one was what are the side effects, 705 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: like long term side effects? Can you clarify a little 706 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: bit on that? 707 00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, So we'll go through it. So I tell people 708 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 2: safety wise what we want to do when we're doing fillers, 709 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 2: or what I'm looking for as an injector, and like 710 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 2: any experience, like skilled injector should be looking for is 711 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 2: making sure that we're not blocking off blood flow that 712 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 2: can happen if we're putting too much filler into an 713 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 2: area or into a blood vessel and then blood can't 714 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 2: like pass through. 715 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 4: So what it would look like. 716 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 2: Is like the person wouldn't have the normal color on 717 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 2: their skin. It almost looked like pale or like gray. 718 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 2: So that would be an indication. If the patient's having 719 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 2: really extreme pain, that would be an indication because they're 720 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,880 Speaker 2: not getting the blood flow, or if they're having any 721 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 2: vision issues, that would also be an indication of like 722 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:41,320 Speaker 2: there's something wrong. This is super rare. I have worked 723 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 2: in this for nine years and I've never had to 724 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 2: like dissolve anybody in any emergent reason. But I tell 725 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 2: my patients, I'm constantly looking every single time I touch you, 726 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 2: like I'm looking at your skin to assess and make 727 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 2: sure things are normal. Blood is flowing, We're not blocking 728 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 2: off blood flow to the eyes, to the face. If 729 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 2: anything ever looks weird, that's where you want to make 730 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 2: sure your provider has the Hirolana days several vials on hand. 731 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 2: I carry sixteen to twenty vials in my office always 732 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 2: to just be able to dissolve the filler if I 733 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 2: needed to in any emergent reason. I think people make 734 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 2: it like it's going to happen all the time. I'm like, 735 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 2: I'd have done this day in and day out for 736 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 2: nine years I've worked in large group practices. I've never 737 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 2: seen this in my practices with my colleagues. So it 738 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 2: can happen because it's a medical procedure, but this is 739 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 2: not super commonplace. 740 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 3: Okay, have you ever personally hit a blood vessel? 741 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 2: Oh? I mean I hit blood vessels every single day 742 00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 2: with like as soon as I poke the skin, but 743 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 2: it's not hitting the blood vessel to like inject filler 744 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 2: in where it's blocking blood flow. 745 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 4: So never in any emergent reason. 746 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 2: But I mean I can put the needle in with 747 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 2: bowtags right now and like hit this blood vessel and 748 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 2: it bleeds, It bleeds. 749 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 4: It bruises. 750 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 2: So it's really like seeing somebody that is not overdoing it. 751 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 2: So the risky thing is like if we put a 752 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 2: ton of filler into one area at one time and 753 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 2: that's where blood can't pass through, but like hit a 754 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 2: blood vessel. We probably we hit blood vessels every single 755 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 2: time we're poking the skin because there's so many on 756 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 2: the face. 757 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 4: They were like completely covered in the face. 758 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, because the reason I was asking, and I don't 759 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:23,520 Speaker 1: know what this is called. 760 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 3: You'll probably be able to explain it better for me. 761 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: But I went to go get these small little strings 762 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 1: underneath my eye because I I've done the PRP, which 763 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 1: is they remove your blood and then it's like your 764 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 1: own it's your plasma or something like that they put 765 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 1: in your eyes. I've done filler. And then I went 766 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: in with her to do the strings and she hit 767 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 1: something and I had a black literally my eyes swelled up, 768 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: it was swollen, and then I had a black eye, 769 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 1: like black eye all over. My eye was red. So 770 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 1: obviously she's like, it happens. It was great after everything 771 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 1: went away, Like I love the results, but like, what 772 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: does she hit? 773 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 2: So she hit like a blood vessel, so it's just 774 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 2: like a bruise for that. So sometimes it can be 775 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 2: like a bigger bruise or a small bruce. So that 776 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 2: can depend on like how big our needles are. If 777 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 2: somebody comes in and they've been on blood thin areas, 778 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,920 Speaker 2: if they've been drinking recently, they're more likely to bleed 779 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 2: in bruises. 780 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 4: So I'm not. 781 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 2: Worried about bruises. I tell people, I'm like you're going 782 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,160 Speaker 2: to be bruised. Like I'm using a needle, this is 783 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 2: going to happen. I'm trying to make sure we're not 784 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 2: blocking off blood flow, like we're having normal tissue perfusion. 785 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 2: And really, like I said, if you think about the 786 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 2: Body's museum, I don't know if you've seen that, but 787 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,600 Speaker 2: they have like all like you can show you, like 788 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 2: all the vasculature. It's everywhere, every it's our whole face 789 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 2: is covered. You just want to make sure your provider 790 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 2: knows there are like more high risk areas that we inject, 791 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 2: Especially when we're injecting some of these higher risk areas 792 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 2: like where the blood vessels connect behind the eye, you 793 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 2: want to make sure we're not you know, not overdoing 794 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 2: it using products that you can dissolve going slow. So 795 00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 2: making sure like you have these conversations with your provider. 796 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 2: I think some of it is there's the fearmongering side 797 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 2: where people think every you know, as soon as you 798 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 2: get botox and fiellers, you're going to go blind. And 799 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,759 Speaker 2: then there's a side where people just don't even know 800 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 2: that it's a possibility, like that this is a medical 801 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 2: procedure and they just think, oh, this is like going 802 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 2: to get a haircut, Like it's still a medical procedure. 803 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 2: So I'd like, you want to know who you're seeing, 804 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 2: making sure their license, making sure you know where they're 805 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 2: getting this product and this product is if they approved it, 806 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 2: you know, just be safe. 807 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's just informing yourself, asking lots of 808 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 1: questions to your like you said to your provider, and 809 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 1: just knowing at the end of the day, like we 810 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 1: have ains, we have blood vessels, we have so many things, 811 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 1: especially in our face. But like it's happened to me, 812 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: I have bruised, I got a black eye. I was 813 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 1: totally fine, it went away. It's basically a big ass bruise. 814 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 1: And then I love the results. Though I loved it, 815 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I'm gonna do it again. That 816 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 1: was shared Honestly, I'm like, it's totally fine, We're absolutely fine. 817 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:52,839 Speaker 2: Now. 818 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 1: Have you heard anything about like long term effects, like 819 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,279 Speaker 1: something that can happen or like anything like that. 820 00:34:58,880 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 4: I haven't. 821 00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,479 Speaker 2: And I've had patients that have been using it over 822 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 2: twenty years. Some other countries have had it before us, 823 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 2: and they've been using it and they just look really great. Yeah, 824 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 2: they really especially Yeah, Yeah, braziliance. 825 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I haven't. 826 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 2: Heard anything I said. I've had people have been using 827 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 2: this over twenty years. 828 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,280 Speaker 3: Neither have I like honestly. 829 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 1: So I was just I'm like, I'm just gonna ask, 830 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: just so that anyone that's listening knows. And I'm telling you, 831 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: I love this industry. So I'm gonna be the first 832 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 1: one to say, go get it, go do it. 833 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 3: Like That's why. 834 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 1: Like I'm like, I can look at someone and if 835 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 1: they ask me, I'm straight up I'm like, Okay, yeah, 836 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: I think you need this and this and that. I 837 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,319 Speaker 1: feel like all I need to know I need to 838 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 1: go to school for all those years. But I can 839 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:40,759 Speaker 1: be like, this is where you need it, you know. 840 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 1: Like I'm just I have an eye for it. 841 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 2: And you do like you do like makeup and stuff. 842 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 2: Those are like makeup artists, they really are artists, photographers, 843 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,759 Speaker 2: They really have good eyes for this. 844 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 3: Yeah. My makeup artists will tell me. 845 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 1: I won't even tell him or her I did this, 846 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 1: and they're like, oh my god, the contour looks better 847 00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:59,720 Speaker 1: today because I started doing cheeks. 848 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, yeah, I did. 849 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:02,400 Speaker 1: This, and they're like, oh my god, I can totally 850 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 1: tell they love it because it's so much easier to 851 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 1: contour your face to just define it. So yeah, I 852 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,040 Speaker 1: mean even my boyfriend, he's a photographer, so he sees 853 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:11,879 Speaker 1: it all, which is weird because I'm like, how did 854 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 1: you not ever go in yourself to do it? But 855 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 1: I think he was just shy, so he was like, 856 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 1: I needed you in my life to take me. And 857 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,800 Speaker 1: talking about men are there, I feel like the industry 858 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 1: of the aesthetic world is mainly women as far as 859 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 1: like providers. 860 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:26,360 Speaker 3: Is that correct? 861 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 4: It's more female dominant. 862 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,360 Speaker 2: I mean I used to work with the male provider, 863 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 2: but it's it's really like female dominant, which I mean 864 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:35,880 Speaker 2: I kind of like it. 865 00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 4: I mean I don't know. 866 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 2: I mean my other the guy that I used to 867 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,320 Speaker 2: work with, he's great, like he's injected me. But sometimes 868 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 2: I think like seeing a woman, like we get the 869 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 2: women problems. I don't know, like we're trying to we're 870 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 2: all trying to do the same highlight or in the 871 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 2: same place. You know. 872 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:49,720 Speaker 3: I prefer a woman. 873 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:51,680 Speaker 1: I don't know why, but I feel like women are 874 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 1: more gentle as well, and like we have the eye 875 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,360 Speaker 1: and we want to look still like feminine, you know what. 876 00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 3: I mean like that's just me personally. I don't know. 877 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 1: So do you know of any like future like what 878 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,360 Speaker 1: do you think of future trends? Do you think like 879 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 1: what will become like super popular in a couple of years. 880 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 2: I think botox is going there's going to be one 881 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 2: coming out that like lasts longer, So I think that'll 882 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,120 Speaker 2: be a thing. I just think like the natural aesthetic 883 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 2: will continue to like take present, like more and more 884 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 2: people will be like, oh, like you can look natural 885 00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,840 Speaker 2: and do it and it doesn't have to be this 886 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 2: super overdone, super dramatic thing where you change your face. 887 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 4: I think that is just going to keep being highlighted. 888 00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,360 Speaker 2: It's like more people you me, like we're talking about 889 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,279 Speaker 2: what we've done and people can say, oh wow, they 890 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,479 Speaker 2: look normal. I think that's going to help. 891 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. I am so glad we had this conversation. 892 00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming onto the podcast and 893 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,359 Speaker 1: being so open. And before you go, can you please 894 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 1: share your social media? Do you have a website? Like 895 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:51,440 Speaker 1: where can people find you? 896 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:52,360 Speaker 4: Definitely? 897 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,360 Speaker 2: Thank you So, I'm ganil in my Instagram and my 898 00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:59,799 Speaker 2: TikTok are Janille It's g I N I L L E. 899 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 2: Underscore NP. That sounds for a nurse practitioner. And then 900 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 2: Janill Beauty dot com is my website. So I'm in 901 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 2: Santa Monica. I would love to connect with you, guys, 902 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 2: say yael um voco. 903 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 4: So yeah, thank you, love it. 904 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you so much. Theare you guys, You guys 905 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 1: can find her. She's beautiful. She's like you guys heard her. 906 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 1: She's awesome and I think that if you are a 907 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 1: first timer looking to get it, she will ask you 908 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 1: every question and answer any question that you may have 909 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,400 Speaker 1: so that you feel safe. You definitely made me feel good, 910 00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 1: so I'm sure the people that are listening. 911 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 3: Feel the same way. 912 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,319 Speaker 1: And before we go, you guys, as always, I have 913 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:49,479 Speaker 1: a motivational Monday quote, and the quote is I can't 914 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,799 Speaker 1: think of any better representation of beauty than someone who 915 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,279 Speaker 1: is unafraid to be herself. So don't be afraid, go 916 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,800 Speaker 1: out and do what you want. Okay, if you want botox, 917 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:00,279 Speaker 1: do it, If you want feel your bigger lie, you 918 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,360 Speaker 1: want a different note, whatever, Just what's gonna make you happy. 919 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 1: What everyone else thinks, that's just my personal opinion. Janielle, 920 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,240 Speaker 1: thank you so much, you guys, thank you for listening. 921 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,360 Speaker 1: I will catch you guys next Monday. Catch me next Monday. 922 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 1: I love you, guys. Blow them kisses, Janail bye, and guys, 923 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 1: I want to let you know there's a brand new 924 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 1: way for us to keep in touch. You can now 925 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,760 Speaker 1: leave me a voice memo directly through the iHeartRadio app. 926 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,320 Speaker 1: Just click the microphone at the top of the Cheeky's 927 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 1: and Chill podcast homepage within the iHeartRadio app, and if 928 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,239 Speaker 1: you don't already have the app, you can download it 929 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 1: for free. 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