1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: Is the best of two pros and a couple Joe 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: with Lamar Rings and Rady Win and Jonas Knox on radio. 3 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 2: Good morning to you and yours Leaverrington. 4 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 3: Go Canada. Oh, I mean good morning, Jonas morning. Uh, 5 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 3: good morning I and screw you to. 6 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 2: Pete Prisco and uh and Brady Quinn Have Pete today? 7 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 2: The Florida Panthers blowhards. 8 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 4: Well, why can't we have Brady today? Damp glad? We 9 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 4: have others today? 10 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 2: All right? So we are we are off and running 11 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 2: here on this Friday morning. 12 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 4: Are we running or are we just off? 13 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, we're well, We're not off. We're running. We're 14 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 2: running a gun in here. And you know, it's good 15 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 2: that you can depend on the usual suspects first lines 16 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 2: around the National Football League at this time of year. 17 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 2: I would say that, and the usual suspects would be 18 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Bengals who just cannot help themselves. Cannot help themselves. 19 00:01:13,360 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 2: This is par for the course when it comes to 20 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Bengals. We have chronicled the situation with Shamar Stewart. 21 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 2: He's unhappy with a new method the Bengals are taking 22 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 2: when it comes to being able to avoid certain guarantees 23 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 2: and rookie contracts. He wants it to go back to 24 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 2: the way that they've always done it. They're trying to 25 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 2: do something new, and so Shamar Stewart spoke out about 26 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 2: it earlier this week and then you know, just decided yesterday, 27 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 2: I'm out of here, and he decided to leave mini camp. 28 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 2: In the midst of this contract dispute with the Cincinnati Bengals, 29 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 2: Zach Taylor was asked about it and just kind of well, 30 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 2: you know, didn't seem all that please. You know, he 31 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 2: would have preferred that it was maybe kept a little 32 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 2: more in house whatnot. But also Bengals Center and most importantly, 33 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 2: nfl PA Vice President Ted Kerris defended not only Shamar 34 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 2: Stewart but also Trey Hendrickson amidst his demand for a 35 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,279 Speaker 2: new contract with since he let's take a listen. 36 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 5: It's not the best case scenario of how the Spring 37 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 5: could have gone for our first round pick. But you know, 38 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 5: there is a pretty serious business aspect to our profession. 39 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 5: And you know, he's taken counsel from from his you 40 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 5: know camp, and you know, I don't The main thing 41 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:37,360 Speaker 5: I want to say is I don't think to either 42 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 5: of our defensive ends that there's not any harboring resentment 43 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 5: in this locker room to them. 44 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 4: I know, and I. 45 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 5: Really hope that both camps can figure this out because 46 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:48,399 Speaker 5: we have a you know, we have a really good team. 47 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 5: We've had a super productive spring, and you know, you 48 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 5: just don't want this to carry over into into summer. 49 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 5: I think from a PA perspective, always, we don't want 50 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 5: you know, language and contracts that are gonna be negative 51 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,239 Speaker 5: to players. As far as guaranteed money, We're always trying 52 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 5: to you know, max the amount of guarantees that guys get, 53 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 5: so you. 54 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 4: Know, it's a business negotiation. 55 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 5: And you know, I just I'm you know, I feel 56 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 5: for Shamar that you know, he has to kind of 57 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 5: this is his first taste of the league with you know, 58 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 5: kind of a lot of hate on the internet, not hate, 59 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 5: but since he Twitter is a mess around, so you know, 60 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 5: I hope that he can come and be super productive 61 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 5: in fall and kind of get everyone back on his side. 62 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 2: Your Cincinnati Bengals just delivering the goods every offseason. Joe 63 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 2: Burrow called her the distraction. They've made it a point 64 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 2: and a priority this offseason to take care of the offense. 65 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 2: You've got two players on defense, one of which was 66 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 2: the sax leader a year ago. That's been dragging on 67 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 2: for quite some time and just can't seem to get 68 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 2: those defensive deals done for whatever reason. You know, Jermaine 69 00:03:56,440 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 2: Pratt was a long time bangal. He's gone. He was 70 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 2: looking at to get traded because they wouldn't work on 71 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 2: a new deal with him. He just signed with the Raiders. 72 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 2: It just feels like they've made it very clear what 73 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 2: they're prioritizing this offseason going into next. 74 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 3: I thought Teed made a great point on the Twitter Twitter, Twitter, 75 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 3: SINCI fans and social media and how that plays a 76 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 3: part in all of this. Whenever a rookie, I'll just 77 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 3: start with rookie. I'll stay with rookie instead of Hendrickson 78 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 3: right this moment. But as far as with a rookie 79 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 3: who has never played for your team yet has not 80 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 3: been able to establish themselves yet in the community, the 81 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 3: new community that they're in, I wonder how much the 82 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 3: organization takes that into consideration when all of these things 83 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 3: are taking place, because generally speaking, the fans aren't going 84 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 3: to be forgiving to the player. It's the weirdest phenomenon, Like, 85 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 3: it's not like the fans are like, what is since 86 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 3: he doing da da da, this, that and the other, 87 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 3: and no, you're gonna have a large sector of the 88 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 3: fan base harassing and talking crazy to the player as 89 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 3: if the player doesn't know what he's doing, is that 90 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 3: the player is greedy or the player is something other 91 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 3: and it has a damaging effect. I know, I was 92 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 3: what they said air quotes a holdout. And it's interesting 93 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 3: because what does Shamar Stewart in terms of a contract 94 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 3: have right now? 95 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 4: You know what he has right now? 96 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 3: John nothing? So if you have nothing, you can't be 97 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 3: a holdout. Like think about it. The idea that guys 98 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 3: start to get labeled holdouts. The term is if if 99 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:04,320 Speaker 3: it's being you who's correctly a holdouts, someone who is 100 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 3: working for you and they don't show up to work, 101 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 3: that's holding out. But if I don't have a contract 102 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 3: with you, I don't have a job, so technically you 103 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 3: haven't even officially hired me yet, this is not a holdout. 104 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 3: This is first things first, Like, players get accused of 105 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 3: a lot of things sometimes, and one of the things 106 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 3: that they can be accused of is not handling their 107 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 3: business properly. It comes up a lot, you know, the 108 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 3: immaturity or the lack of attention to the detail of this, 109 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 3: and it's like, okay, But when you do have athletes 110 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 3: that are paying attention to the details and they are 111 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:54,359 Speaker 3: doing things the right way and they are putting business first, 112 00:06:54,400 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 3: they're putting a bad way into a bad bag because 113 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 3: of that decision that they're making. Schamar's store and his 114 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 3: team are making a valid, a valid point to why 115 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 3: would you take guarantees out? Look, why would you void 116 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 3: my guarantees other than me doing something that that to 117 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 3: me is taking away from the franchise and the shield. 118 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 4: Why else would you? 119 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 3: Why else would you cancel out any guarantees that you 120 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 3: put in my contract. 121 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 2: Especially if he's just asking for the same thing you've 122 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 2: always done this year. 123 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 3: It makes no sense. It makes no sense. It makes 124 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 3: no sense. And now you're you're creating you're creating drama, 125 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 3: You're creating friction. Whether there's hard feelings held after or not. 126 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 3: He's going to be Schamar the rookie. He's going to 127 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 3: be judged by some of these these fans, and some 128 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 3: of them may never even forgive them. 129 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 4: Ah, he's greedy. 130 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 3: This that and the other. We don't need those types 131 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 3: of players. Like, what do you mean, what do you 132 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:06,160 Speaker 3: mean you don't need. 133 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 4: These types of players? What type of player is he? 134 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 3: The type of player that wants a fear contract, Like 135 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 3: he's gonna get his opportunity to play, but now he's 136 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 3: missing reps, he's missing practices. And these coaches, whether they'll 137 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 3: admit it or not, they're partial towards the guys that 138 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 3: are there. And so now you've created a disconnect possibly 139 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 3: between player and coaches. You've possibly created a disconnect between 140 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 3: player and fans, and you've possibly created friction and a 141 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 3: disconnect between organization and fans. 142 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 4: It's a lose on all on all fronts. 143 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 3: And for what is the reasoning behind making this a 144 00:08:55,559 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 3: sticking point to getting the deal done? It's unbeliev to me. 145 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 3: I don't understand it. And unless the Cincinnati Bengals front 146 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 3: office comes out with clarity on what this represents, I 147 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 3: think it's a problem. 148 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 4: And it's not the type of problem. 149 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 3: You need when your team that has the type of 150 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 3: tack that it has and the possibilities that exist, and 151 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 3: you your top draft pick is not around because of 152 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 3: a technicality. It's not a number. It's not really a number, 153 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 3: it's it's a technicality. Don't void out my guarantees if 154 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 3: it's that simple. And not playing that man's contract should 155 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 3: have been done and signed and he should have been 156 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:49,839 Speaker 3: in and not being a storyline that surrounds your team 157 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 3: or the National Football League just seems unwarranted, unnecessary and unneeded. 158 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 2: And also just from a big picture standpoint of your 159 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 2: the Bengals, and this doesn't even getting into the details 160 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:05,079 Speaker 2: of the contract and all. You have a window here, 161 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 2: and you have an opportunity with a franchise quarter of 162 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 2: a legitimate franchise quarterback that you drafted in his prime 163 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 2: that you've heard glowing reviews from anybody who's watched him. 164 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 2: You've got whether it's Dan Troy Aikman says, he's one 165 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 2: of my favorite quarterbacks of all time. You got your 166 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 2: guy because you sucked so bad that he was sitting 167 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 2: there and you were in the perfect spot to draft him, 168 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,839 Speaker 2: and you got the deal done. He's got his extension. 169 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 2: You have this window and this opportunity to do something special. 170 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 2: You went to a Super Bowl and he wasn't even 171 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,319 Speaker 2: in his prime yet. He like, you've got a guy 172 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 2: who actually has beaten Patrick Mahomes in a playoff game, 173 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 2: which is rarefied air, and has had success against the 174 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 2: dynasty of his era, and they're like, eh, you know, 175 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 2: Nikol and diming a guy who led the league in 176 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 2: sacks to do something different for a rookie than they've 177 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 2: done every other It just feels like this organization is 178 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 2: potentially going to get in the way of this opportunity 179 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 2: to maybe. 180 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:14,199 Speaker 4: You're going to get away your own self. 181 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 2: Blows my mind. There's probably your biggest opponent, asked me 182 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:24,319 Speaker 2: right here, the Bengals having their bye week. They got 183 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 2: the Bengals. They don't get a guy Bengals here. I 184 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 2: just like, I don't. There's there's probably teams around the 185 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 2: NFL that are looking at the Bengals going, what are 186 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 2: you doing? We would love to have your problems, Like, oh, 187 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 2: you kids, you can't seem to figure out how you 188 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 2: can pay. I don't get it. It seems so obvious 189 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 2: to me. And for some reason, the Bengals are like, no, no, no, 190 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 2: we'll just you know, we're still trying to figure this 191 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 2: whole thing out. No, this should be obvious. Whatever it takes, 192 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 2: get the deal done. Like and when when Shamar Stewart 193 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 2: says and talks of about the players in the locker 194 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,560 Speaker 2: room that have been supportive of him, and he said that, 195 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 2: you know, a couple of days ago, Like that tells 196 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 2: me there's probably veterans that are like talking to him, 197 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 2: like we discussed when we broke down him making those 198 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 2: comments that are like, man, you do what you need 199 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 2: to do. This is not on you, This is on them, 200 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 2: Like this is on them. It's just it's such a 201 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 2: bad look for the Bengals. 202 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 3: Man, I just don't feel like this is a heel 203 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 3: you need to put your toes down on, put your 204 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 3: flag in and die on. 205 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 4: Just not the one and for all of this. 206 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 3: Now you're saying you're setting a new precedence for how 207 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:48,079 Speaker 3: you handle rookies, which now you already have a slotted 208 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 3: a slotted number in the NFL draft. It's not like 209 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 3: you need to be really negotiating. It's kind of already slotted. 210 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 3: The numbers are the numbers. So get the contract done 211 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:07,439 Speaker 3: and get moving like it just doesn't make very much 212 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 3: sense at all. It's your first round draft pick. Get 213 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 3: the contract done. That used to be a thing. It 214 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:19,599 Speaker 3: used to be a thing back when the NFLPA and 215 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 3: the NFL didn't have the deal the way it's done now. 216 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 3: It used to be a thing, you know, he's asking 217 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 3: for too much money or this language here isn't good 218 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 3: enough for the situation. They got to figure out what 219 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 3: that looks like. Like those were different times because you 220 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 3: were negotiating dollars. And while I'll say, okay, this does 221 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 3: include dollars because obviously, if you can avoid guarantees, have 222 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 3: they released and this is a very important piece. 223 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 4: Of the puzzle. 224 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 3: Have they released what guarantees they're fighting to be able 225 00:13:56,679 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 3: to cancel in the contract? Has the details of that 226 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 3: come out yet? 227 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 2: So from my understanding based on it, and if you 228 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 2: give me a sec I can pull up the wording 229 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 2: because I think it was the Cincinnati Inquirer who who 230 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 2: wrote about what exactly the hold up is. And from 231 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 2: my understanding, according to the Cincinnati Inquirer, let's see, let 232 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:23,280 Speaker 2: me let me find this exactly. Okay, give me one 233 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 2: sec here. But it's something along the lines of the 234 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 2: injury like injury guarantees that they're trying to be able 235 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 2: to avoid that they haven't done before, something along those lines. 236 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 3: But it's so basically any any roster or any bonuses 237 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 3: that he would have, any guarantees he would have if 238 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 3: he gets injured. They want those void, those to be 239 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 3: voided out. They don't want they don't want to have 240 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 3: the Deshaun Watson situation. They don't want to have a 241 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 3: guy come in have guarantees but gets injured and isn't playing. 242 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 4: Is that like what that sounds like? 243 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 2: Here's the from this is from Adam Schefter on the 244 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 2: clause that is in the contract isn't normal and that's 245 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 2: why Shamar Stewart is objecting the way he is. The Bengals, Uh, 246 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 2: let me find more details on it. But it's just 247 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 2: it's it's an abnormal clause that teams do not normally do, 248 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 2: and the Bengals are now trying to pull off and 249 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 2: do this year that that's I guess that's. 250 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 3: I will say from the other side of it. From 251 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 3: the other side of it, if they're trying to protect 252 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 3: their interest by having something that you know, protects their 253 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 3: their you know what they have going on, they need 254 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 3: to have the conversation, like they need to explain it 255 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 3: so that the the general public has an understanding of 256 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 3: why this something like this that is considered to be 257 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 3: new and being introduced to the scenario is what they're 258 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 3: trying to do. Somebody, a representative, if you're keeping quiet, 259 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 3: seems shady because the idea of but I've already said 260 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 3: for for as long as I if you know me, 261 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 3: I think publishing and giving public knowledge of professional athletes 262 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 3: contracts and how much they make is absurd and it's ridiculous. 263 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 4: I really do. 264 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 3: And I also think that it's absurd that that has 265 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 3: to be an element that a rookie has to to 266 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 3: navigate because it's not. 267 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 4: It's not on them. 268 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 2: So here's a here's a little more detail for you 269 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 2: from ESPN. According to a source with knowledge of the negotiations, 270 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 2: the sticking point is language in the contract that could 271 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 2: avoid guaranteed money in future years. For example, if Stewart 272 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 2: were suspended even for an off field reason such as 273 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 2: leading with the crown of the helmet or other similar 274 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 2: penalties that could eliminate future guarantees. 275 00:16:54,920 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 3: I mean, I'll say, the game is evolving, and if 276 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 3: you're going to go out there and you're doing things 277 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 3: that are egregious towards your your campaign as a player, 278 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 3: and it's egregious towards you know, the campaign of the team. 279 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 3: If you're out there head hunting and playing in a 280 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 3: way where you're gonna get fined or get suspended or 281 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 3: anything like that, disqualified from from games. I get that. 282 00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 3: I get that. That's an extreme. That's an extreme. I mean, 283 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 3: but yeah, I mean, let's be real here, Defenders play defense. 284 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 3: So now you basically you want your defender being paranoid 285 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 3: about if there's a judgment call lift. We've seen plenty 286 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 3: of judgment calls, a questionable you know, ways guys have 287 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:50,360 Speaker 3: been hit and I haven't always agreed with one way 288 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 3: or the other, you know, So, so now you're basically 289 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:58,479 Speaker 3: saying you're trying to introduce language that will govern his 290 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 3: contract and his money based off of something that could 291 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 3: be left to interpretation that happens on the field for 292 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 3: a defender. 293 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,480 Speaker 2: And you've never don And the most part that I 294 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 2: keep looking at is you've never done that before. This 295 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 2: is the first time you've done something to this extent, 296 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 2: and you're picking now to do it. That's his gripe, like, 297 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 2: why now can we just do the one you did 298 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 2: last year or the year before. But for whatever I mean. 299 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 3: Again, evolution happens, things change you know, I understand that, 300 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 3: I understand things changing and business being handled, But the 301 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 3: one thing that they don't have on their side is 302 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 3: the fact that it's being done outside of the public eye. 303 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 3: It has become public. And so now that it is 304 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 3: a public conversation that's taking place and the details of 305 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 3: it are coming to the forefront, is this a big 306 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 3: enough sticking point for you not to have your rookie 307 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 3: signed and ready to go. And I'll just say this, 308 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 3: at the bare minimum, the sad thing about all of 309 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 3: this is. 310 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 4: This is business, and that's a reality. Business is business. 311 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 3: And now college players are going to have to adapt 312 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 3: and adjust and learn what business is all about, and 313 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 3: so are the colleges. They're going to have to adapt 314 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 3: and adjust. But in the league, sometimes the necessary and 315 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 3: that's not even sometimes, it's every time. The necessary evil 316 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 3: that's connected to what takes place is you got to 317 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 3: negotiate a contract, and for better or for worse, if 318 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 3: there is evolution of what a player wants or what 319 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 3: the organization wants, those are things that have to play 320 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 3: out between the negotiators, the lawyers, the agents, and the 321 00:19:55,560 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 3: people that represent the team. So while we're sitting here 322 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:04,680 Speaker 3: and it is a discussable topic. It still is one 323 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 3: of those topics Jonas where it is a necessary evil. 324 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:12,400 Speaker 3: They're not at training camp yet, and even if they 325 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 3: were at training camp, you get one time to do 326 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:19,479 Speaker 3: your contract the right way. The only contract that matters 327 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,439 Speaker 3: is the contract you have right in front of you 328 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 3: at this moment in time. You get one time, no 329 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 3: guarantees that you get another one. So you got to 330 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 3: take your time to do it properly and do it 331 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 3: the right way, and so that you're happy with it 332 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,479 Speaker 3: and you're comfortable with it because you're going to have 333 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:37,760 Speaker 3: it for a few years and that could be your 334 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 3: first and only contract that you ever do, so you 335 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 3: better get it right. So it's a necessary evil if 336 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 3: I'm looking at it from the less chaotic, the less 337 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 3: turbulent and confrontational way, it's just a part of it. 338 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 4: It's just sad that it has. 339 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 3: To gain the coverage and gain the I guess, the 340 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 3: way it's being handled, the way the way people feel 341 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 3: about it. You hate that that has to happen, because 342 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 3: this is a necessary evil to negotiate getting to the 343 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 3: end of a contract. 344 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 2: Speaking of necessary evils, I didn't want to point out 345 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 2: here because I think it's important, especially on today. 346 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:18,199 Speaker 4: It's a football Friday. 347 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:24,160 Speaker 2: It is a football part Friday Friday. Come on, yeah, yeah. 348 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 3: Ab shot God Friday, Yay. 349 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 4: Antonio Brown shot a gun. It's Friday, yay. And now 350 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 4: the cops is. 351 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: Looking for them. 352 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 4: They looking for they looking for them, They're looking for them. 353 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 4: On Friday, on Friday, on Friday, on Friday. 354 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 2: Get your dance on, get your dance on, get your 355 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 2: dance on, get your dance on. Dan Dance dam Dance, Dance, 356 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 2: Dance dance. 357 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 3: Are you the Abe of the week? I said, are 358 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 3: you the a b ab of the week. You know 359 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 3: what I'm talking about. We gotta switch it up what 360 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 3: I'm talking about. 361 00:21:58,440 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 4: Gotta switch it up. 362 00:21:59,080 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 2: We gotta switch it up. 363 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 4: Let's do it for Eddie. 364 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 3: Come on Friday Night of the Football Priday. All right, yeah, ye, 365 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 3: Football Priday. 366 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: Brock Suckle. 367 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 4: Doing Scot I Confel. 368 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 369 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington and 370 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific 371 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. 372 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 2: That was a pretty short lived brand new show name 373 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 2: with LeVar and I running things around here with Brady 374 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:42,719 Speaker 2: Quinn out. We came up with Black and Drack, obviously 375 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 2: a play on words, me being Dracula and LeVar being 376 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 2: well Black and Levar's not here. He's got to catch 377 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 2: a flight. So he will be going to State College, 378 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 2: as he mentioned before, and he's going to be doing 379 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 2: some things in State College, PA. So I'll be taking 380 00:22:58,119 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 2: you again all the way up for the next couple 381 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 2: of hours here toward till the end of the show 382 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 2: here on FSR. But I did notice this, and I 383 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,199 Speaker 2: think it's important to point this out. Sometimes you got 384 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 2: to point out the obvious, and I wanted to point 385 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 2: out the obvious for somebody in the NFL because this 386 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 2: is crucial, crucial to this story. So today is Friday 387 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 2: the thirteenth. Now I don't know exactly if Friday the 388 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 2: thirteenth is still a thing. I don't know if that's 389 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 2: something that people look at and go, oh my god, 390 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 2: it's almost a full moon. It's Friday the thirteenth. What 391 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 2: you know, is this an indicator that there's going to 392 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,439 Speaker 2: be some sort of a weird event that occurs, Like 393 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 2: I don't even I don't know if that's still a thing. 394 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 2: It's like horoscopes. I used to be into horoscopes at 395 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 2: one point in my life. And then I looked down 396 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 2: at the fine print and it said for entertainment purposes only, 397 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 2: and I realized, oh, that's a waste of time, Like 398 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,679 Speaker 2: this is a waste of time to look at this 399 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 2: to determine what my day looks like. And then you realize, 400 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,719 Speaker 2: you know, the one for Pisces, and can answer is 401 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 2: the same for Gemini. Just kind of twisted around the 402 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 2: words a little bit and you realize, probably all a 403 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 2: load of crap. But the date is important. The day 404 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 2: June thirteenth is important, and it's important to point out 405 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 2: because June thirteenth is a ways away from the NFL 406 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 2: regular season. We got some time here, we got time. 407 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 2: Yet for some reason, June thirteenth is important to the 408 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 2: discussion because, well, you know, you're trying to find the positives, 409 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 2: You're trying to find something you can feel good about 410 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 2: when it comes to one franchise, and that franchise is 411 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 2: none other than the Dallas Cowboys. Because I saw this 412 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:55,399 Speaker 2: thrown out there on social media earlier this week, and 413 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 2: I'm not trying to air anybody out who's doing the 414 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 2: reporting on this, But I do find it a little bizarre. 415 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 2: There was a tweet that was sent out that said, 416 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 2: the following Cowboys quarterback Dak Prescott went fifteen for nineteen 417 00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 2: with four touchdowns during today's practice. What are we doing, dude? Like? 418 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 2: What are we doing? Like really like, like, what are 419 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 2: we doing? Why are we box scoring this? Why are 420 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 2: we going down this road? Why are we having discussions 421 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 2: about what Dak Prescott's statlite is? Unless you're one of 422 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 2: these degenerate flunkies who can't get enough of fantasy football, 423 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 2: so you got to do fantasy training camp football, which 424 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 2: is a whole nether level of degenerate. That's all. That's 425 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 2: like the guy who you know, his kid comes to 426 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 2: him when he's graduating, turns eighteen. He graduates, like Dad, 427 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 2: you know anything he got for me? So I can? Yeah, 428 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 2: I mean I would have loved to, but I played 429 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,240 Speaker 2: fantasy training camp football back in the day and I 430 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 2: lost my ass. So I don't know what to tell you. 431 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 2: Your college savings, whatever I had for you, all that's gone. 432 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 2: But here we are June. It's June thirteenth, and we 433 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 2: are box scoring Dak Prescott's fifteen for nineteen with four 434 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 2: touchdowns at Cowboys practice. We're not even in training camp, 435 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 2: we're not even an ox Stard, and we're keeping score 436 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 2: of what Dak Prescott's doing. And it's not just a 437 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:25,440 Speaker 2: Cowboys thing. This happens around the NFL. It's going to 438 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 2: continue to happen. It's a major pet peeve of mine, 439 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 2: but hey, people love the NFL. It's all good, got you. 440 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 2: It's also important to point out that it's June thirteenth, 441 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,679 Speaker 2: It's Friday the thirteenth, so you know, with the season 442 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 2: being a ways away, that feels like a key detail 443 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,479 Speaker 2: for one of the new arrivals in Dallas, and that 444 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 2: new arrival is George Pickens. But according to Dak Prescott, 445 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 2: anything that you've heard and anything that's been speculated about 446 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 2: when it comes to George Pickens, don't buy it. Yeah. 447 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 6: I don't think that's why shed ever listen to what 448 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 6: somebody else says about somebody. I think you should judge 449 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 6: everyone for not judge, but find out for yourself who 450 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 6: they are and allow them to reveal them they're their 451 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 6: character to you. The guy, he's been great, he's been 452 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 6: phenomenal as the guy that loves football, loves his teammates. 453 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,600 Speaker 6: He's been excited every day that he's been there. He's 454 00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 6: been early, So no concerns on the personal matters of 455 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 6: GP and anything about it. Just super excited that he's 456 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 6: on our team. He's he's one of us, and he's 457 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 6: a brother, and she's about continuing to grow and make 458 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 6: sure that we're putting the best out there. And that's 459 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 6: his approach. 460 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 2: Why do we give it a little time? You know, 461 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,479 Speaker 2: why don't we just give it, Give it just a 462 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,360 Speaker 2: little bit of time. Please, for the love of Christ, 463 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 2: give it a little bit of time. George Pickens in 464 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:50,400 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh was fined I believe a little over two hundred 465 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 2: thousand dollars for varying degrees of not meeting team standards. 466 00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 2: Are this in Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh's got a pretty good track 467 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:03,399 Speaker 2: record of knowing when to turn the page on a 468 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 2: disgruntled player or a disgruntled wide receiver. Pretty good track record. 469 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 2: It seemingly always turns out well for Pittsburgh. It doesn't 470 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 2: always turn out well for the other guy. So pretty 471 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,919 Speaker 2: good track record. Kept a lot of things quiet and 472 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 2: decided we're good here. We got to move on from 473 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 2: George Pickens. And that was in Pittsburgh, where they do 474 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:31,360 Speaker 2: a really good job also of keeping things behind closed doors. 475 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 2: You're not gonna hear a whole lot about it. And 476 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,479 Speaker 2: that was in Pittsburgh where George Pickens wasn't in a 477 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 2: contract year, so to speak. He's now going to be 478 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 2: in Dallas, which gets the most coverage maybe of any 479 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 2: professional team in sports from a national landscape. It's hard 480 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 2: to find anybody who gets more coverage in the Dallas Cowboys. 481 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 2: He's now in Dallas and he needs to play well 482 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 2: and produce to get that big contract he wants. And 483 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 2: it's June thirteenth, and we're saying, yeah, I don't believe 484 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 2: any of this stuff. You hear, come on, man, like 485 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 2: got you gotta let this thing play out a little bit, 486 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 2: and you gotta let it play out a little bit, 487 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 2: because when it has played out, we've seen the results. 488 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 2: There was a story. I don't know if this is true. 489 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 2: I don't know if this is one hundred percent accurate, 490 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 2: but there was a story that was thrown out there 491 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 2: that George Pickens showed up first of all, the one 492 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 2: that he showed up late for the Christmas game. That's true. 493 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 2: I'd like that, you know, we believe that that's true. 494 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 2: There's also another story that he showed up like twenty 495 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 2: minutes before kickoff. He walks onto the field or he 496 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 2: walks into the building and he's eating a Twizzlers and 497 00:29:53,080 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 2: he says, my bad, there was traffic. Okay. Now, I'm 498 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 2: more of a red vine red rope guy myself. Twizzlers 499 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 2: pretty overrated. Feels more like, feels a little bit too 500 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 2: to gimmicky. If you ask me, like, that's something you 501 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 2: would get in the you know, it would be at 502 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 2: the bottom of the Halloween bag when you get home. 503 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 2: It's like that. Or you know, the whoppers, the three 504 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 2: pack of whoppers you got from some neighbor who's a 505 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 2: cheap ass who's had him sitting around since their aunt 506 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 2: died four years ago. But the point is he's in Dallas. Now. 507 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 2: You can't escape any of this stuff. It's going to 508 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 2: be a story. Even people that don't have drama fall 509 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 2: into drama in Dallas. You can't escape any of it. 510 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 2: You got former Dallas players that are telling you, yeah, 511 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,480 Speaker 2: it's kind of weird. We're trying to work out, trying 512 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 2: to get a lift in trying to hang out in 513 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:57,800 Speaker 2: the building, and they've got tours going on. We feel 514 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 2: like zoo animals. There's people walking around. George Pickens can't 515 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 2: get away with any of this stuff. It's a different 516 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 2: environment altogether. So you've got a lot of evidence here 517 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 2: to suggest that this is gonna go really, really poorly. A. 518 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 2: It's George Pickens. Nothing against the guy. He's phenomenal, he's fantastic, 519 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,680 Speaker 2: but a little bit of a wild card. I think 520 00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 2: we can say entertaining is hell, but a little bit 521 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,680 Speaker 2: of a wild card. See, you've got that. You've also 522 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 2: got the fact that the Pittsburgh Steelers wanted to move on, 523 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 2: and they seem to make pretty good decisions when it 524 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 2: comes to wanting to move on, as we've laid out before. 525 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 2: And you've got the coverage of the Dallas Cowboys. None 526 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 2: of it matters what's happening on June thirteenth at all, whatsoever. 527 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 2: We're gonna get to week four, Week five, Week six, 528 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 2: Ceedee Lamb is still going to be the number one receiver. 529 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 2: He's gonna be the number one target. Jake Ferguson's there. 530 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 2: You've got guys that have built a rapport with Dak Prescott, 531 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 2: you mean to tell me George Pickens in a contract year, 532 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 2: knowing what's on the line, generations of wealth potentially if 533 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 2: he plays well and plays up to his potential. You 534 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 2: mean to tell me that same George Pickens isn't going 535 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 2: to have an outburst or two, isn't going to have 536 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,160 Speaker 2: an issue or too with not getting the ball enough, 537 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 2: Like we really believe that. And Dak Prescott's doing his 538 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 2: job and he's laying it out as well. Listen, look, 539 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 2: I mean, you know anything you hear you can't really believe. 540 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 2: I could tell you my son is the most well 541 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 2: behaved guy in the world. Like he is the best man. 542 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 2: He's the best right when he arrives to the park, 543 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 2: he's the best, excited, energetic, happy, loves being there, great kid. 544 00:32:57,040 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 2: An hour later, I want to the SWAT team borderline, violent, cranky, upset, hungry, tired, annoyed, 545 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 2: sick of me. Just give it a little bit of time. 546 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 2: It's not really about the arrival, it's about the departure. Okay, 547 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 2: give it a little bit of time with George Pickens 548 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 2: when you're covering the Cowboys, give it a little bit 549 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 2: of time before we start breaking down what Dack's stats 550 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 2: are in training camp and give it a little bit 551 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 2: of time because it is Dallas. Before we start just anointing, 552 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 2: everybody is, hey, it's a drama free team. It's not. 553 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,240 Speaker 2: It never has been. And when you add all those 554 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 2: factors in surrounding George Pickens, something tells me there's going 555 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 2: to be a dust up sooner rather than later. 556 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and 557 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 1: a Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and 558 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 1: Jonas Knox weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific. 559 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 2: Those of you that maybe were listening earlier and are 560 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 2: now trying to figure out, Hey, where LeVar go? He 561 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 2: was here the first hour, Well, this is how this works. 562 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:10,320 Speaker 2: They are called random ped test for a reason. 563 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:11,319 Speaker 4: What do you mean by that? 564 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 2: At six point fifty five am Eastern time, LaVar Arrington 565 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:26,320 Speaker 2: was administered a random test. At six point fifty six 566 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 2: am Eastern time, LaVar Arrington pissed hot, can't be condoned, 567 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:36,840 Speaker 2: so he will not be with us for the remainder 568 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 2: of the show. I got to make the rules. I 569 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:45,919 Speaker 2: kinda do, but hey is what it is. And as 570 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 2: some people would say, tough balls. And speaking of which, 571 00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 2: I would like to take this time to defend somebody 572 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 2: here on the show. I would like to defend somebody. 573 00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 2: And for people listening on one of those affiliates known 574 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:02,439 Speaker 2: as the Blowtorch five to seventy LA Sports, you're going 575 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 2: to know this individual very well, very popular figure when 576 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:10,120 Speaker 2: he was out here in Los Angeles, spent many years, 577 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 2: was a champion out here. And that's somebody is Justin Turner. 578 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,840 Speaker 2: Justin Turner who is living out maybe the final days 579 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 2: of his major league baseball career at forty years old, 580 00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:25,840 Speaker 2: and he is currently a role player with the Chicago Cubs. 581 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 2: He comes in a little bit of a bit of 582 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 2: a platoon situation, but he comes in great locker room guy, 583 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 2: great clubhouse guy. Everybody loves Justin Turner and anybody that's 584 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 2: followed the course of his career, anybody out here in 585 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 2: Los Angeles, you know, still very popular him and his wife, 586 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 2: the things they've done locally, just you cannot find anybody 587 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,919 Speaker 2: this is a bad thing about Justin Turner. Everybody loves 588 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 2: Justin Turner. Well, Justin Turner finds himself a little bit 589 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 2: of an awkward predicament that really isn't his fault? Last 590 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:05,880 Speaker 2: night during the Cubs Pirates game on Marquee Sports, and 591 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 2: I know because I was watching it with my son, 592 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 2: who's four years old. We're watching the game last night, 593 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 2: I believe it was intermission of the Stanley Cup Final, 594 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:22,880 Speaker 2: which has been fantastic, and they decide to award something 595 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:28,160 Speaker 2: called the Fan of the Game at Wrigley Field. Normally, 596 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 2: what they do is they'll find a fan in the 597 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,959 Speaker 2: crowd and award that fan as fan of the game, 598 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,640 Speaker 2: just kind of a little goofy, you know thing marque 599 00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 2: Sports does. Instead, what they did is they decided to 600 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 2: award it to a player, and the player they awarded 601 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:49,760 Speaker 2: it to was Justin Turner. The problem is they showed 602 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 2: Justin Turner down in the clubhouse jumping up and down 603 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 2: to celebrate his teammate's home run. That teammate is Seya Suzuki, 604 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 2: and apparently nobody at Mark Key who was working the 605 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 2: camera or the production noticed that Justin Turner, while jumping 606 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 2: up and down, had a pair of fake testicles on 607 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:17,320 Speaker 2: while doing so. And the best part is the guys 608 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 2: call the game Boog Shambie and Jim Deshayes, who are fantastic. 609 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 2: By the way, they're one of the best duo calling 610 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 2: games anywhere. They just went silent. They showed Justin Turner 611 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,960 Speaker 2: jumping up and down. He's got a pair of fake 612 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 2: truck nuts on and they don't know what to do. 613 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 2: They literally just went silent. And I would have done 614 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 2: anything to be in the booth to see what was 615 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 2: going on, because I guarantee me, I guarantee they were 616 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:57,000 Speaker 2: laughing their ass off. You had no choice. It was 617 00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:01,840 Speaker 2: so awkward for everybody, and I've spotted it in real time. 618 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:06,759 Speaker 2: I'm like, wait, wait what And you can find the 619 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,760 Speaker 2: video if you go to social media. Just search Justin Turner. Okay, 620 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 2: just search Justin Turner and it's him jumping up and 621 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 2: down with a pair of fake nuts on. But the 622 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:21,360 Speaker 2: problem is nobody noticed that, and they made him the 623 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:25,640 Speaker 2: fan of the game. And there's no possible way that 624 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 2: anybody decided, Hey, this will be a fun one, let's do. 625 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 2: Let's do fan of the game on Pride Night, no 626 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 2: less with Justin Turner jumping up and down with fake testicles. 627 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 2: The whole thing was phenomenal, so unintentionally funny and boog 628 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:50,680 Speaker 2: Shambie and Jim Desias literally couldn't speak, They had nothing 629 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:56,200 Speaker 2: to say. They waited. It was really silent and really awkward, 630 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 2: and then they just continued calling the game. So I 631 00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 2: would like to defend Justin Turner from the standpoint of, hey, listen, 632 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 2: clubhouse behavior. Probably shouldn't have been a camera on him. 633 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,880 Speaker 2: They probably shouldn't have awarded him Fan of the Game 634 00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:13,720 Speaker 2: if he's jumping around with any sort of male purse 635 00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:18,400 Speaker 2: between his legs while celebrating a teammates Homer. Yeah, probably 636 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 2: shouldn't have had the camera there. It's why it's the 637 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,440 Speaker 2: clubhouse and or locker room for elite for a reason. 638 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:26,880 Speaker 2: There should be a little bit of privacy there. So 639 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,040 Speaker 2: I just want to defend Justin Turner. Also give a 640 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,439 Speaker 2: shout out to Fox Sports Radio alum Cole Wright, who 641 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 2: is also working at Marquee Sports. He does a phenomenal job. 642 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,880 Speaker 2: Cole's fantastic, so give a shout out to him as 643 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 2: well too. A member of the Fox Sports Radio Alumni Association, 644 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 2: I believe Ben Maller calls it, so congratulations to Cole, 645 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 2: he's been doing phenomenal there, and congratulations to whoever decided 646 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,600 Speaker 2: to award Justin Turner the fan of the game and 647 00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,359 Speaker 2: didn't happen to pan down, you know, just didn't didn't 648 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 2: happen to pan down, And some people were speculating, are 649 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:09,360 Speaker 2: those really his No, that's the joke. So speaking of nuts, 650 00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:16,240 Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Bengals might even fall into that category, because 651 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Bengals are like, you know what, got a 652 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:26,839 Speaker 2: franchise quarterback, We got all this talent on offense. We've 653 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,880 Speaker 2: shown that we've got the ability to go throw for 654 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 2: throw with Patrick Mahomes and actually beat him in the 655 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,839 Speaker 2: postseason in the playoffs. We nearly won the Super Bowl 656 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:37,920 Speaker 2: a couple of years ago. Some would argue we probably 657 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 2: should have won the Super Bowl, but you know, we 658 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:42,439 Speaker 2: lost it it so far to the Rams and Aaron 659 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,359 Speaker 2: Donald got his ring and Cooper Cup you know who 660 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,960 Speaker 2: apparently has shaved his beard now. Cooper Cup is the 661 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,359 Speaker 2: MVP of this like all those things that But if 662 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,759 Speaker 2: you're the Bengals, you're like, man, listen, we're close, we 663 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:56,360 Speaker 2: got this. And then they're like, huh, how could we 664 00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 2: f this up? 665 00:40:58,040 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 1: Oh? 666 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 2: I know, let's get into contract disputes with not only 667 00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 2: one defensive player, but two, the latest being Shamar Stewart, 668 00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:10,400 Speaker 2: who decided, you know what, I'm out of here. I 669 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 2: don't like the fact that you guys are changing the 670 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 2: language on this deal when last year it wasn't the 671 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 2: same language. I'm not going to sign it. I'm not 672 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,440 Speaker 2: signing anything. And so what makes us even more fun 673 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 2: is that on the Cincinnati Bengals, you have somebody who 674 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,440 Speaker 2: knows a thing or two about the entire situation. And 675 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:32,480 Speaker 2: that's somebody would be Bengals center and NFLPA vice president 676 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:36,640 Speaker 2: Ted Karris, who defended both Shamar Stewart and his other 677 00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:37,840 Speaker 2: teammate Trey Hendrickson. 678 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,760 Speaker 5: It's not the best case scenario of how the spring 679 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:44,200 Speaker 5: could have gone for our first round pick, but you know, 680 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:50,880 Speaker 5: there is a pretty serious business aspect to our profession, 681 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:55,280 Speaker 5: and you know, he's taking counsel from from his you know, camp, 682 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,799 Speaker 5: and you know, I don't The main thing I want 683 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 5: to say is I don't think either of our defensive 684 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 5: ends that there's not any harboring resentment in this locker 685 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,919 Speaker 5: room to them, I know, And I really hope that 686 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,200 Speaker 5: both camps can figure this out because we have a 687 00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 5: you know, we have a really good team. We've had 688 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:15,200 Speaker 5: a super productive spring, and you know, you just don't 689 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,839 Speaker 5: want this to carry over into into summer. I think 690 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:21,759 Speaker 5: from a PA perspective, always, we don't want you know, 691 00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:25,040 Speaker 5: language and contracts that are gonna be negative to players. 692 00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 5: As far as guaranteed money, we're always trying to you know, 693 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:32,200 Speaker 5: max the amount of guarantees that guys get. So you know, 694 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:36,319 Speaker 5: it's a business negotiation, and you know, I just I'm 695 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,360 Speaker 5: you know, I feel I feel for Shamar that you know, 696 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,399 Speaker 5: he has to kind of this is his first taste 697 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,120 Speaker 5: of the league with you know, kind of a lot 698 00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 5: of hate. Hate on the internet, not hate, but since 699 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 5: he Twitter is a mess around, so I, you know, 700 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,200 Speaker 5: I hope that he can come and be super productive 701 00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,160 Speaker 5: and fall and and kind of get everyone back on 702 00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:54,600 Speaker 5: his side. 703 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,080 Speaker 2: So that was Ted Karris of the Cincinnati Bengals discussing 704 00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:01,680 Speaker 2: the uh, the contract issue, who's there and the offseason 705 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,239 Speaker 2: the Bengals are currently going on. And also, you know, 706 00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,839 Speaker 2: Joe Burrows asked about it. Yeah, it's a distraction. Zach 707 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:11,840 Speaker 2: Taylor's been asked about it. It's just there are and 708 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:16,000 Speaker 2: we were discussing this earlier. There are franchises around the 709 00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:19,759 Speaker 2: NFL that would do anything for the problems of the 710 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,680 Speaker 2: Cincinnati Bengals. Anything where if you were to ask a friend, 711 00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:26,920 Speaker 2: you'd pull them aside and say, hey, so here is 712 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:32,799 Speaker 2: your problem, quote unquote. You've got a franchise quarterback, a 713 00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,560 Speaker 2: guy who's got the chance to be a Hall of Famer, 714 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,160 Speaker 2: a guy who's been talked about. Troy Aikman has called 715 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:43,040 Speaker 2: him maybe his favorite quarterback of all time. Everybody agrees 716 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 2: Joe Burrow's the guy. You end up with him because 717 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:54,160 Speaker 2: you sucked so bad the year prior. You've also been 718 00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,919 Speaker 2: able to work out a long term extension with him. 719 00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 2: You've got Jamar Chase, who's one of the best wide 720 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 2: receivers in the air. You've got all of this at 721 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:10,240 Speaker 2: your disposal. You've shown the ability to beat the team 722 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:15,520 Speaker 2: that is the dynasty of your era. You were the 723 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:20,359 Speaker 2: Boogeyman potentially going into the playoffs last year. So all 724 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 2: of that is yours, and you just get this feeling that, somehow, someway, 725 00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:30,879 Speaker 2: the Bengals are gonna screw this up. They've got all 726 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:35,040 Speaker 2: of this potential, all of this opportunity, The window is open, 727 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:40,400 Speaker 2: and they're going to put a board over it. Somehow, Someway, 728 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:44,799 Speaker 2: you just get that impression. You get that vibe, And 729 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:49,640 Speaker 2: if I'm Bengals ownership, if I like, dude, figure out 730 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,040 Speaker 2: a way to get Trey Hendrickson in the door and signed, 731 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,759 Speaker 2: figure out a way to get Shamar Stewart's contract work 732 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,440 Speaker 2: out and go back to the deal that was signed 733 00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:02,279 Speaker 2: last year. From a pre it's like, why why get 734 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:05,439 Speaker 2: in the way of all this? And we've talked about 735 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:09,799 Speaker 2: it on the show before. Some organizations cannot help themselves. 736 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:15,120 Speaker 2: Do you want an NBA comp for you? How about 737 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:20,040 Speaker 2: the New York Knicks who put the nick in Nickel 738 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:23,440 Speaker 2: and dime with the way that they operate. And you 739 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,160 Speaker 2: should have known that this is exactly how the Knicks 740 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 2: were going to operate, based on the way that they 741 00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:33,319 Speaker 2: celebrated after getting past the second round. And I was 742 00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:36,000 Speaker 2: on record and Knicks fans got upset about it and 743 00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,479 Speaker 2: got pissy about it because I pointed out the fact 744 00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,520 Speaker 2: that you know, it is kind of pathetic. This is 745 00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,920 Speaker 2: supposed to be Madison Square Guard and this is supposed 746 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:45,759 Speaker 2: to be the Knicks. This is supposed to be New York, 747 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:49,000 Speaker 2: this is market number one, blah blah blah blah blah. 748 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:53,799 Speaker 2: And the Knicks operated like the Sacramento Kings did years 749 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:57,400 Speaker 2: ago when they hung a Summer League title banner up 750 00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:02,520 Speaker 2: at the arena. You got past the second round and 751 00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:07,160 Speaker 2: people were climbing stuff in the streets, and then two 752 00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:12,879 Speaker 2: wins later you fire your coach. But don't worry, they've 753 00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:16,480 Speaker 2: got a plan. If you don't believe me, believe the 754 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:20,560 Speaker 2: Hall of Famer Charles Barkley. He was on NBA TV 755 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:25,799 Speaker 2: and Charles Barkley spoke about this quote unquote plan by 756 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:26,720 Speaker 2: the New York Knicks. 757 00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:30,520 Speaker 7: The Knicks gotta be the stupidest damn people in the world. Like, 758 00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,120 Speaker 7: you don't fire no good coach like that and don't 759 00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,840 Speaker 7: have a plan. I mean, tipsait a hell of a 760 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:41,080 Speaker 7: job obbson sum's going on now. But as you don't 761 00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:45,719 Speaker 7: have a plan and now the three coaches turn you down, 762 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:47,439 Speaker 7: you gotta have a plan, man. 763 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,719 Speaker 4: And they don't have a plan now. I mean, I 764 00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:52,080 Speaker 4: don't know. 765 00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:52,920 Speaker 7: What the hell they're gonna do. 766 00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:59,160 Speaker 2: Nobody does. Nobody does. But it's funny because all these 767 00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,680 Speaker 2: Knicks fans boys who want to defend the team or like, 768 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,600 Speaker 2: oh listen, don't worry about it. They got an idea. 769 00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:10,240 Speaker 2: They they know exactly what they're doing. Oh yeah, what's 770 00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:13,080 Speaker 2: that now they're gonna they're gonna target this guy and 771 00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:20,520 Speaker 2: that guy and with with, with with. They have no 772 00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:26,520 Speaker 2: idea what the hell they're doing. They accomplished something they 773 00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:32,919 Speaker 2: hadn't done in a quarter century and then decided, now 774 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:38,440 Speaker 2: we gotta make changes. Okay, how's that going? But Dory, 775 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,759 Speaker 2: you got your guy. They got their guy. They they 776 00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:45,720 Speaker 2: had an idea and they got their guy. Nah. Not really, 777 00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,040 Speaker 2: And it was supposed to be feel good time for 778 00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,000 Speaker 2: the Knicks. Remember like this was the brand new Knicks. 779 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:54,600 Speaker 2: Remember James Dolan was nowhere to be found. Like JD 780 00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,279 Speaker 2: in the straight shot, I think we're doing a cover 781 00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:01,080 Speaker 2: sets at some uh some local pub in uh in 782 00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,759 Speaker 2: in Manhattan somewhere, you know, a couple of blocks like 783 00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:05,279 Speaker 2: they were nowhere to be found. I don't even know 784 00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:08,480 Speaker 2: if he's at the games. Nobody talked about the Charles 785 00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:12,640 Speaker 2: Oakley stuff. Nobody's even bringing up the fact that, you know, 786 00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:17,640 Speaker 2: Tracy Morgan, who's basically Nostra damas Tracy Morgan blue chunks 787 00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:19,880 Speaker 2: on the court during a game, which might have been 788 00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:21,960 Speaker 2: an indication that, like, hey, guys, I know this seems 789 00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,440 Speaker 2: cool and all right now, but it's gonna go poorly 790 00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,120 Speaker 2: guy just lost his lunch and it looked like he 791 00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:31,359 Speaker 2: lost the previous three lunches as well too. But don't worry. 792 00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:35,000 Speaker 2: The Knicks are making a run. Man. You had Timothy 793 00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:37,279 Speaker 2: Champagne or whatever his name is, show up with one 794 00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:40,360 Speaker 2: of the Kardashians. Everybody all, guy, it's a god. The 795 00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:46,560 Speaker 2: Knicks are back. The Knicks are back, and then they 796 00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:48,600 Speaker 2: fire their head coach that got them to a place 797 00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,440 Speaker 2: they hadn't been in a quarter century. But but they 798 00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:55,400 Speaker 2: got a plan. They got everything's gonna be fine. The 799 00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:59,680 Speaker 2: Knicks got this, they got it figured out. And it's 800 00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,040 Speaker 2: almost as if James Dolan was like, you know what, man, 801 00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,160 Speaker 2: you guys are doing way too good and I'm nowhere 802 00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,680 Speaker 2: to be found. I want to put my fingerprints on this. 803 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:12,760 Speaker 2: I want to make my mark. Okay, how's that going. 804 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,360 Speaker 2: It's like the Bengals have a window here, an opportunity, 805 00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,919 Speaker 2: and somehow, someway you just get the feel and they're 806 00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:24,120 Speaker 2: going to screw it up. The Knicks do something they 807 00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:31,120 Speaker 2: hadn't done in twenty five years, and somehow, some way 808 00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:35,080 Speaker 2: they're going to screw it up. They can't help themselves. 809 00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:40,000 Speaker 2: This is the way they operate and That's why when 810 00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:44,520 Speaker 2: organizations get labeled as dysfunctional, or their's skepticism about an 811 00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:49,400 Speaker 2: organization from the quote unquote national media, the people locally 812 00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,440 Speaker 2: get all upset and all hot and bothered about it. 813 00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:54,440 Speaker 2: It's like, dude, take a step back and look at 814 00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,000 Speaker 2: the big picture, and it's going to tell you everything 815 00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:57,560 Speaker 2: you need to know.