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Speaker 1: Welcome one and all to the Hammer Territory podcast. It's

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Speaker 1: good to be with you once again. It does not

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Speaker 1: been back with you. But plenty to discuss once again. Hey,

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Speaker 1: that's the Braves off season for you. That's what happened.

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Speaker 1: And when you have a good team that both recognizes

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Speaker 1: what great players did last year and also what hopefully

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Speaker 1: your team's going to do this offseason to have an

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Speaker 1: even better shot at winning a title next year. But

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Speaker 1: a pleasure to be with you, part of the Foul

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Speaker 1: Territory family of podcasts, and as always, it's a pleasure

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Speaker 1: to be with my podcast partner, Stephen Tolart. Stephen, how

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Speaker 1: are you, sir?

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Speaker 2: What's up? Sean? Yeah, man, deja vous all over again.

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Speaker 3: We've been here.

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Speaker 2: We're here a couple of days ago or yesterday. I

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Speaker 2: can't actually remember when we did it, but it wasn't

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Speaker 2: that long ago. But yeah, we got some news that

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Speaker 2: broke today a little bit unexpectedly. We weren't quite expecting

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Speaker 2: pouring out about midday to day and then we got

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Speaker 2: some stuff tonight with Chris Sale that you know, we

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Speaker 2: needed to talk about as well. So yeah, we got

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Speaker 2: an interesting show. Maybe it won't be our longest show,

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Speaker 2: but we got some stuff to talk about.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, and that's what we love to do when it

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Speaker 1: comes to the Hammer Territory Podcast. If it's related to

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Speaker 1: but what's the significance of it? What does it mean?

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Speaker 1: And I know that we've talked about Chris Sale plenty

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Speaker 1: people know by now just how significant and special his

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Speaker 1: it's going to hit home with many when they see

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Speaker 1: just how much he's going to be honored during award season,

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Speaker 1: and that started tonight with the MLB Awards show, Chris

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Speaker 1: Sale named the twenty twenty four l Comeback Player of

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Speaker 1: the Year. But perhaps even more eye opening, not necessarily

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Speaker 1: and Steven again we talk about just how spectacular Chris

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Speaker 1: Sale was, but again, you know, we'll cover this in

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Speaker 1: a second. The first thing that stands out to me is,

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Speaker 1: you know, coming off you know, several years, you know,

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Speaker 1: Chris Sale was so consistently good this year, I think

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Speaker 1: that's what stands out. He just set a bar that

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Speaker 1: he met time and time again to be a true ace,

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Speaker 1: player of the year, could become only the second person

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good that he gets the recognition. He was

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Speaker 2: amazing last year. You know, Honestly, there's an argument that

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Speaker 2: with the Braves this season was Spencer Strider going down

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Speaker 2: They they leaned on that pitching staff heavily to make

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Speaker 2: unbelievable all year. I really hate that it ended the

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Speaker 2: You know, almost certainly there's gonna be a bigger award

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Speaker 2: So yeah, credit to him. You know, he's gonna deserve everything.

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Speaker 1: And I'll make and I'll say this, I think that

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Speaker 1: to again just put into perspective how special his season was,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and listen, the fact that he had so many

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Speaker 2: much see this being a try Morton's situation where you know,

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Speaker 2: And so yeah, but unbelievable, I mean just unbelievable. See

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Speaker 2: some really, really, really good outcomes on their pitchers, you know,

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Speaker 1: And one final thought on Chris Sail that you know

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Speaker 1: But the fact that you bring Chris Sale in and

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Speaker 1: Well, you want to know what's even potentially more important

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Speaker 1: But those blackouts that that have been in place for

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Speaker 1: today could be a pretty historic day.

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Speaker 2: No, you're right, I mean, you know, the bigger, the

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Speaker 2: bigger your television market is, the bigger your blackout map is.

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Speaker 2: And that's what you were just talking about. Where you

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Speaker 2: can be a Brace fan in Kentucky and Tennessee and

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Speaker 2: Alabama and Mississippi, Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina and be blacked

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Speaker 2: out from Bradves games not being able to stream those games.

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Speaker 2: If you have an MLB dot Com subscription MLBtv subscription,

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Speaker 2: then you wouldn't be able to watch bridsgame. You can

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Speaker 2: watch everybody, but you can't watch Braves Games because that

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Speaker 2: it was designed that way. They didn't want you to

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Speaker 2: be able to backdoor the cable companies because they took

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Speaker 2: all the money from the cable companies. So this is

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Speaker 2: a huge deal that in market streaming is now a

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Speaker 2: thing for you know, one of the biggest franchises in

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Speaker 2: the sport and certainly one of the biggest television markets

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Speaker 2: in the sport. And again it's a very big deal

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Speaker 2: that it's Amazon. You know, their distribution is is you know,

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Speaker 2: maybe outside of Apple, second to none. I mean, they're

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Speaker 2: just they're they're one of the best in the world

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Speaker 2: at this this is what they do. And so having

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Speaker 2: a partner of that size with you know, those kind

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Speaker 2: of servers the ability to handle that kind of traffic

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Speaker 2: without disruption, like, it's a big deal. You know, they

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Speaker 2: could have you know, they there's a world where they

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Speaker 2: could have given you a streaming option, but it would

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Speaker 2: have been through a crappy little app that can only

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Speaker 2: handle you know, one tenth of the traffic before it

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Speaker 2: crashes every ten minutes. And we've you know, we've been

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Speaker 2: through that before too with you know, if you've ever

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Speaker 2: had the I think when had an app, it was

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Speaker 2: a really crappy app and you know, nobody can use

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Speaker 2: it and pretty much don't even try to use it.

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Speaker 2: So again, the fact that it's through Amazon is is

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Speaker 2: is not only is it happening, but it's happening through

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Speaker 2: a major distributor. So it's a big deal. And I

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Speaker 2: know the devil's going to be in the details. It's

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Speaker 2: still possible that they could charge an arm and a

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Speaker 2: leg for this thing and people get mad. I'm not

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Speaker 2: saying that's not going to happen. I don't know. I

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Speaker 2: don't know what the price is going to be. As

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Speaker 2: soon as we have it, obviously we'll talk about it

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Speaker 2: and give you the context for how it is for

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Speaker 2: other teams. But at least it's an option now. It

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Speaker 2: wasn't an option before. You had no option for in

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Speaker 2: market streaming, and now, based on everything that was released today,

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Speaker 2: you will and that's a step. That's at least a

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Speaker 2: step in the right direction of getting more people access

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Speaker 2: to games, which is I think Baseball's biggest problem before

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Speaker 2: this was just the blackouts were just so punitive, like

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Speaker 2: you just it was crazy, you know, and the blackout

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Speaker 2: maps all you know, they all overlap, so you could

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Speaker 2: be in a spot where you're blacked out from like

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Speaker 2: six different teams if you live in the wrong city,

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Speaker 2: you know, they're brutal. And so in market streaming is

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Speaker 2: a huge deal. It's a massive deal, the biggest news

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Speaker 2: of today by far. But the Braves are going to

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Speaker 2: be on you know, FanDuel Sports next year. So if

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Speaker 2: that's who you watched the Braves through last year, and

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Speaker 2: you know obviously that's that used to be Bally, So

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Speaker 2: if you watched the Braves on Ballet last year, you

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Speaker 2: will be able to watch them on the same channel

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Speaker 2: this year. That's the big takeaway for you. You'll be

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Speaker 2: at the same channel, probably the same announcers, same time.

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Speaker 2: You know, the name will be different, it'll be FanDuel,

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Speaker 2: but it's the same. It's the same network effectively, just

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Speaker 2: a new name, but same time, same channel, you know,

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Speaker 2: you know, and that wasn't a guarantee before we got

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Speaker 2: to today. You know, if today it went differently, that

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Speaker 2: might not have been the case. But after today, it's

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Speaker 2: the same, it's the same everything except a new name.

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Speaker 2: And on top of that we get in market streaming

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Speaker 2: a massive deal. So that was the news for today. Again,

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Speaker 2: we're still wedding on details. As soon as we have details,

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Speaker 2: we'll talk about them, but you know, just on that,

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Speaker 2: just on what we learned today, it was a noteworthy.

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Speaker 1: Day, absolutely, and so it's great to see, you know,

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Speaker 1: after a noteworthy season, Chris So get the recognition that

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Speaker 1: he deserves, and it's good to see in general that

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Speaker 1: Major League Baseball again there's effort being put forward to

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Speaker 1: try to make the most of a situation that has

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Speaker 1: not been the best look over the past eighteen plus months.

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Speaker 1: But now it definitely seems like the resolution could open

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Speaker 1: up a solution to a problem that many have been

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Speaker 1: asking for for years. Steven, do you have anything else

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Speaker 1: for us on this edition of the Here Territory Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Nope, We'll get the final we'll get some of the

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Speaker 2: bigger awards, I think next week, so we'll definitely talk

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Speaker 2: about that, and then we get in some more free

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Speaker 2: agent stuff. I think the non tender trade deadline or

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Speaker 2: the non tender deadline for arbitration guys, I think it's

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Speaker 2: coming up. The qualifying offer deadline is coming up. There's

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Speaker 2: a couple of big days on the offseason calendar coming

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Speaker 1: My name is Sean Coleman. Again. When it comes to

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Speaker 1: the Braves, whatever you see out there, when it comes

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Speaker 1: to the news, we more than likely will have some

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Speaker 1: the Braves and obviously in their fan base as well.

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