1 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: It is Monday, October twelveth This is Jet Bars Happy Hour, 2 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: Jack Wars Happy Hours, brought to you by Jet Home 3 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: Loans and now full time radio host, part time place 4 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: kicker J Negative. That's that is not not true. Welcome 5 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: in Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by Jet Home Loans on 6 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: this Monday, j P. Shadrick, Pete Prisco, Tony Boselli coming up. 7 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,840 Speaker 1: Here's what's on the program today and a full review 8 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: of the Jaguars Texans game yesterday at NRG Stadium thirty 9 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: fourteen the final. The Texans get their first win of 10 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:50,319 Speaker 1: the year. The offense struggled yesterday, Yes they did. They 11 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: were two or four in red zone and then that 12 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: doesn't count another one where they reached the twenty one 13 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: yard line and didn't come away with points. The defense 14 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: played pretty well through three quarters and seemed to run 15 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: out of gas in the fourth. We'll get the social 16 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: questions in the second hour. We'll go around the National 17 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: Football League UH Pete Tony for the Elias Sports Bureau. 18 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: The Jaguars are the first team in NFL history to 19 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 1: lose three consecutive games to winless teams, excluding the season opener. 20 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: Happy Monday how are we doing? Yeah, JP, I'm not 21 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: sure that's really how I want to start the show. 22 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: Um well, reality, Well, I think it was when you 23 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: fix your earpots. I mean they really bothered them and 24 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: they stick out like it's like the most annoying thing 25 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do. You want Menna do like you and 26 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: dug my head like, yeah, at least he's done on 27 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: this phone. Like somebody on this show so annoying. You're 28 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: annoying is an individual sometimes. Yeah, not a great stat 29 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: I think, you know the last you know, we've had 30 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: backback years with bad stats. I think last year was 31 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: like five games in a row like the worst you know, 32 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: margin to the feed or something crazy like that. This 33 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: year it's three any teams getting their first win, not 34 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: including the opening weekend, and so those are stats that 35 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: you don't want, I mean as a franchise. And it's 36 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: back to back years and it was a bad game. 37 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,720 Speaker 1: It was, you know, and it's not like the Houston 38 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:14,359 Speaker 1: Texas or a good football team. I mean, Pete and 39 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: I said it all week and it was confirmed me 40 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: watching tape and it was confirmed watching them on the field. 41 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: That's that's not like that's a great football team you 42 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 1: lost to by sixteen, and and we'll talk about all 43 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: of it today, but you know kind of the you know, 44 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 1: the feeling that in the conversation I should say more 45 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: around fans and talk radio and all of us is like, well, 46 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 1: if they haven't done this, and they go, if they've 47 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,200 Speaker 1: done that, if they could have got this break, and 48 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:41,519 Speaker 1: I said it this morning, at some point that you 49 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: gotta stop that talk, because that's really how losing teams talk. 50 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: You know, winning teams, you know, teams that win week 51 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: in a week out are fighting for the playoffs every year. 52 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: It's not that the mantra isn't well, if we really 53 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 1: just got done this or made this field goal, it 54 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: didn't make this mistake, we would have won the game. 55 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: At some point, you just gotta win the game, Pete, 56 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta stop talking about all the things 57 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: you need to do and just do it. Here's my 58 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:08,679 Speaker 1: advice to all Jaguar fans out there. Learn this. Cheer 59 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: us Jets. I mean, seriously, you got to become a 60 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 1: Jets fan. You know, if they win one or two, 61 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: become a Jets fan. It's the easiest way and slops 62 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 1: all your problems. Jets win a game or two and 63 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: you don't win them. Get you, get you, Rember Lawrence. Simple, 64 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: are we really gonna start the show? Therapet? I mean 65 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: six next weeks? It's nineven weeks six, Yet we're just 66 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: finished week five. We're in the beginning stage. I want 67 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: to see all the tweets coming in today. App selly 68 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: j E jets jets. Did you watch Lawrence Saturday night? 69 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: So he is so good? Gosh, he's good. Um. I 70 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: don't want to Trevor. If I took Trevor Lawrence to 71 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: put them in this offense right now as is, they'd 72 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: be explosive as health that is. I still think they 73 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: need a pass catching tight end who can block or 74 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: whatever to go with it. But the rest of those 75 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 1: guys are good players. Offensive line is playing pretty good. Uh, 76 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: the running back is really good. And sure they have 77 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: to get involved with shoot outs because what's on the 78 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:27,559 Speaker 1: other side of the ball. But solves all your problems, well, 79 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:29,679 Speaker 1: I don't know if it solves all the problems, because 80 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: you got we'll talk about defense later problems too. I have. 81 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 1: There's some problems on that side of the ball, and 82 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 1: I don't want to go down to Trevor Lawrence thing 83 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: number one. There's a bunch of teams with no wins 84 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 1: right now, I mean how many? I mean it's and 85 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: I maybe it's like this every year, but you have 86 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 1: a bunch of bad teams. I mean, the Jets are bad, 87 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: the Giants, and Giants are bad, but they're bad. The 88 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 1: Falcons are terrible. Um, what other? Is there one more 89 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 1: winless team? And Jets, Giants, Falcons the three winless teams? Yeah? Yeah, 90 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: and so and they got a bunch of teams with 91 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: one wins Cincinnati, Houston, Jacksonville, Denver, the Chargers, Washington, Detroit, 92 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: Minnesota and those are the one win team. But between 93 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,040 Speaker 1: the difference between those teams that have won game yet 94 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 1: as they all drafted a quarterback Hi in the first 95 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: round and Matt Ryan's get up in the years. But 96 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 1: he was a high first round pick. So was Jones. 97 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: So is Donald. So that Donald and Jones if they done, 98 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 1: you give up on them? Are they finished? Would you 99 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: give up on those guys for that guy? Yeah? I 100 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 1: think guy with two I'm and I'm a Donald. I 101 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: mean that's he's a nice guy. I mean I still 102 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 1: think Donald's gonna be good. I think Jones could be good. 103 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 1: I don't think it's almost unfair to evaluate those guys 104 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: with what they have around them. The teams are so bad. Yeah, 105 00:05:56,080 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 1: but let's go back to the jack. Yeah, let's get 106 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: back to the Okay, we'll let back to the jack. Wards. Look, 107 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 1: I thought the defense competed a little bit. I thought offensively, 108 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: I didn't like some of the play calls. I'll be 109 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: honest with you. Um. I thought the offensive line did 110 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: some good things. He had time to sitting there, um, 111 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: And the receivers are gonna be good players. I there 112 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 1: were a little problem in the kicker. Come on, get Maddie, 113 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 1: you kidding me? Four yards? Four yard? And then he 114 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:31,919 Speaker 1: couldn't quite get to the gold. Yeah, it was. It 115 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 1: was a bad day for Mr. But guy, this has 116 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: been this has been a really good red zone team 117 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 1: this year. And they finally get to the red zone. 118 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: They've been able to cash in a good amount. And 119 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: two of the two or four in the red zone 120 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 1: yesterday and then the other one line Yeah, because that's 121 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: the friende red zone. Yep. So they missed on three 122 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:55,800 Speaker 1: opportunities in the red zone or right around the red 123 00:06:55,880 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 1: zone yesterday, which is not hated. It absolutely hated it. Well. 124 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:03,679 Speaker 1: I think they had a missus sigment on the chanal 125 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: call because they do the swing past him and you 126 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: have Keelan Cole blocking down like on the defensive end. 127 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: Him and Cam are doubling the defensive end. So either 128 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:16,119 Speaker 1: Cam was supposed to pull out and lead the way 129 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: or Celan Cole went the wrong way. I mean there 130 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: was a blown assignment there. It was not even we're 131 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: talking about on this swing pass to the left. I'm 132 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 1: talking about the one where he took the hand off 133 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: and that was it probably should have been chanals. You 134 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: can argue that and that wasn't. Yeah, but I know 135 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: the swing pass you're talking about, because there was about 136 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: eight waiting they had like a missed signmon. Something was 137 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: messed up there. It was not designed right. And if 138 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: it was, if that's how it was designed, it's the 139 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: worst design plays ever seen because you have guys, you know, 140 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 1: going the wrong way. Um. They were good in the red. 141 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: I don't think they were good offensively. I didn't like 142 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 1: the overall game playos off. They got away from the 143 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: past game too soon. I mean, here's my frustration in 144 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: the last two you mean away from the run game. Yeah, 145 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, run game. Here's my frustration. Last two weeks 146 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: you played in the thirty first ranked Rush Defensive League 147 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: and the thirty second Russian Defensive the league, and you 148 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: had early success and then just I mean, that's a game. 149 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: In my opinion, I said it in the pre game. 150 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: I give I handed off forty times. Number one, you 151 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 1: have a defense that's you know, beat up and struggling 152 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: when they're healthy. Shorten the game, run the ball. You 153 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: have a good offensive lineman they stink or stopping the run. 154 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: You have a good young back. I think your quarterback 155 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 1: struggle a little bit right now. I don't you know. 156 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 1: And if you look at the flat and the straight numbers, 157 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: you say, well, mints putting up good numbers, put over 158 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: three yards again. The reality to me is he doesn't 159 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 1: look comfortable in the pocket. Um. And unless the guy 160 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 1: is like really wide open, it's not like he drives 161 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,360 Speaker 1: it into tight spaces and is throwing guys open. In 162 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: this league, guys aren't gonna be wide open all the time. 163 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,319 Speaker 1: You gotta put it in small spots and and really 164 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: UM helped them get open and put them where they can, 165 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:05,319 Speaker 1: you know, contest for and everything else. I just I 166 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: don't think he's playing great football right now, and I 167 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: don't even I think the offense is, you know, because 168 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: of its sputters. And I don't understand why Dave Gruden 169 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: is getting away from the ruck game so far. And 170 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: I'm a big, big family Jake Gruden. I think he's 171 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: a good offensive codinator, and it's almost like he senses 172 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: that he has on the other side of the defense 173 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: is struggling, and so that anytime he gets behind it 174 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: feels like we get to the past too soon. But 175 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: yesterday was not the time to do it. Robins were 176 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: Robinson's first two carries of the game, because I think 177 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 1: they won one one for nine or something, first down 178 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: eleven and then here's the thing. First play the game, 179 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: he won eleven yards. Next three plays pass pass, pass 180 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: off the field. Yeah he went, and he went for 181 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: four yards and four yards on the next drive on 182 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: first and second down, So yeah, he should be. He 183 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: should have been carrying the ball more early in the game. 184 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 1: Then he went for fourteen yards, so he went the 185 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: next the next drive, he carried it three straight times 186 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: and even even on one in the second quarter where 187 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: he looked like he had nothing and he kind of 188 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: popped and ducked down low and got about six or 189 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 1: seven yards on the sideline. Remember that run what you 190 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 1: had in the half. He had to have almost all 191 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 1: those yards at the halftree in the first half, five 192 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: and a second and the second. Yeah, there is, there's 193 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: the graphic. I'm sorry, that's just terrible. I can't get 194 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: away from it. In a close game like that. Yeah. Yeah. 195 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 1: And of course, remember Doug Moron after the game and 196 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 1: again today said, hey, you know, with all these defensive 197 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: injuries that we had, there was a feeling they had 198 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: to push the ball down the field and try to 199 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: score some points, a little more points on offense than 200 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: they had before. Considering I don't buy it, said paying 201 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: I'm missing. I would tell Doug if you sitting there, 202 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: I disagree, because if you're going to play the worst 203 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: defensive the worst, not the second worst, not the third worst. 204 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: And their middle linebacker was out yesterday too, Yes, and 205 00:10:57,640 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: one of the better players is gone. I mean, this 206 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 1: is a add rushed defense. The Vikings gashed them with 207 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: a little offensive line, and you got this big offensive line, 208 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: physical like you gotta run the ball because you shorten 209 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 1: the game, keep your defense on the sidelines. Keep Deshaun Watson, who, 210 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: by the way, he's not playing very good football either, 211 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: in my opinion, keep him on the sideline and shorten 212 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 1: the game and run the ball. Because here's the other 213 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:24,319 Speaker 1: thing that like, I would ask Doug and everyone else, 214 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 1: you know, how many points do you what was the 215 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: high point total of the of the Texas going into 216 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: that game. It wasn't It wasn't many. It wasn't thirty. 217 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: I'll say that it was. It was. It was high 218 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: point total three. This is not a good offense. And 219 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 1: you watch a game last night, right, Yes, Vikings did 220 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 1: when they went there because their defense thinks they controlled 221 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: the ball. They ran the ball. They gashed them. They 222 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 1: did it the week before against the Texans. You gotta 223 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: you've got an ability to catch all the clock. Well, 224 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: you have a bad defense, you have to do it, 225 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 1: you know. Now, that's a great plan. If you go 226 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: there and you get followed up after a quarter and 227 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 1: a half, then you got to amend it. But there 228 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: were opportunities to run the ball yesterday. Do you know me, 229 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: I'm a past first guy. I would have run that 230 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 1: kid way more yesterday. Carries that you have in the 231 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: first half JP, Yes, I'm sorry, eight of eight of 232 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: his thirteen eight carries in the first half. That's not enough. 233 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,439 Speaker 1: But but even so to five and a second half, 234 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: they weren't the game to get away from there. I 235 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: mean they were, it was it was ten seven and 236 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: a half time. Now, remember two guys that the Texans 237 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: had like a seven team play drive in the first 238 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: half at one point, like seven and a half minutes. Also, 239 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: so I don't care the same JP. The time, the 240 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: time possession. The Jaguars had the advantage of the time 241 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: of possession a half time. They've had more time on 242 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: the field than the Texas, and so you have to 243 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 1: run the ball. This is a bad defense you're playing, 244 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 1: and you have a defense that's beat up and it's 245 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 1: not playing well. And by the way, you're playing an 246 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 1: offense in the texts that haven't scored points. It's like 247 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:15,559 Speaker 1: the perfect rescue. I was literally expecting this would be 248 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: a handoff test, like like how many how many? I said, 249 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 1: I said before the game. Minimum this is a rookie 250 00:13:25,559 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: who has not having a heavy load of carries coming 251 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: into the game, Like I would have been fine giving 252 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: him thirty five, Like you just load them up and 253 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: like we're riding you and then if if you get tired, 254 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: we'll put in the backup. Whoever. I don't even know 255 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 1: who the backup is because they don't play. Chris Thompson's 256 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: your third down back. Who's the backup running back? I 257 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: don't even know who it is. I covered the team. 258 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 1: I couldn't even tell you who would be like the 259 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 1: next like, I don't know. But this is where you 260 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:55,079 Speaker 1: find out. This is the game they gave up. Want 261 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: they give up? Coming in this game? A hundred any 262 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: one point eight yards? A game that was it was. 263 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: It was a bad right, no doubt. And the first 264 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:10,199 Speaker 1: two drives Robinson had five carries right, and then on 265 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 1: that drive after they kicked the field goal went up three. 266 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: Nothing Houston did after that seven team play drive. It 267 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: was early second quarter. He got a carry on first 268 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: and tent after a completion of Chanale he got to 269 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: carry for no game. Then they passed the rest of 270 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: that drive and twelve play touchdown drive to take the 271 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: lead seven to three at that point. So a lot 272 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: of the carries came early first quarter and then they 273 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: kind of got away from it. I mean, and I'm 274 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: sure Jay Gruden will i mean his argument to me, 275 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: who was like, well, were the ball elevon straight times 276 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: and score a touchdown? So we needed So I just 277 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: don't think you can do that consistently. I mean I 278 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: don't think that the teams. I mean, what did that? Wait? 279 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: Did did the Texas come out in the second half 280 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: and get a field goal? Right? Yes? Okay? So what 281 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: was the drive? The drive after that drive? After that? 282 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: Robinson right in for minus four yards? Menshow's sacked for 283 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: minus five Minshee's short right to Chris Thompson for fifteen 284 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: yards and it's fourth and four and they punted, okay, 285 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,479 Speaker 1: and I actually get like you lose? I mean, Oh'shaughnessy 286 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: missed the block right there there running encounter, you know, uh, 287 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: and he comes to you know what Norwell? J J. 288 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: Watt he's got as soon he's got to be right 289 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: off the rear end of Norwell because he picks up 290 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: Zach Randolph and there's no one there and here we go. 291 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: We're I mean, and he just that's okay, guys, miss Blox, 292 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: I miss box everyone. And so I actually okay with 293 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: um Jay throwing it on second and fourteen, I mean, 294 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: now you're like and he gets sacked, So that's fine. 295 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: It was a bad drive, but even after that, you're 296 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: still in the gate. It was at that point it 297 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: ends up being they didn't. It was did you go 298 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: to twenty to seven at that point? JP? It was yeah, 299 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: thirteen seven at that point, then yeah, I got to 300 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: twenty to seven after that, yes, and yeah, and then 301 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: you're almost out of it though, no you're not. Pete. 302 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: The start of the fourth quarter, when did they scored 303 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: him May seven? It was early fourth quarter, fourteen twenty four, left, 304 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: fourteen twenty four. You had plenty of time if you 305 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: run the ball down the field and go score, take 306 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: four or five minutes, and they did, and minutes left, 307 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: and it's it's it's ten minutes and they did. To 308 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: your point, they got it within twenty fourteen, a ten 309 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: play drive and it was ten eighteen to play. Yeah, 310 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: they did exactly what you just said. My point is, Pete, 311 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: you gotta run. How many roll rushers in the game 312 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: that they have. I don't think they're you're playing the 313 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: worst rush defense in the league. You gotta run the ball. 314 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: All right, let's come back. We've got plenty ahead. Obviously 315 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: with this on the offensive side, we've got a touch 316 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: on the defense as well. Yes, Tony, Yes, listen. I 317 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: think and I've been a big advocate Jay Gruden. Like, 318 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: I think he's a good coordinator. I mean, I think 319 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: he has a proven tracker. We did Cincinnati. I was happy. 320 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 1: I like, I just the last two weeks. When you're 321 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 1: playing bad rusty defenses. You know, I get late in 322 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter in Cincinnati, you had the like abandon 323 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: it and you had to throw it. I get that 324 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: up until then, I just I don't think we're running 325 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: the ball en up and giving a touch of to 326 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:16,399 Speaker 1: James ROMs. All right, we're gonna sne rips him rips 327 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:18,719 Speaker 1: if we're gonna circle back around to that and just 328 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 1: a little bit, we're back in a moment though defensive talk. 329 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy hour. We're off and running on the 330 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: Jaguars Digital Network. 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That's Abrey Jones in 393 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: the post game yesterday in Houston Welcome Back Jaguars Happy 394 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 1: Hour on this Monday, the aftermath of a thirty to 395 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: fourteen loss for the Jaguars to the Houston Texans. J 396 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: P Shadrick Tony was Sully Pete Prisco the Jaguars. We'll 397 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 1: get to the defense coming up. We'll circle back around 398 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,400 Speaker 1: to the offense. So uh well, we'll hear from Dug 399 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 1: maron coming up on what happened on fourth and one 400 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: as well a little bit later in the show. Um, 401 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: but the Jaguar has made a roster move just moments ago. 402 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: Gentlemen involving the kicking position. Stephen Housk has been released. 403 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 1: Earl Davis defensive lineman released as well. The Jackson promoted 404 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: kicker John Brown from the practice squad and Karen Reid 405 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 1: defensive lineman. Both of those guys are on the active roster. 406 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 1: John Brown was with the Bengals and the forty Niners. 407 00:22:13,560 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: He was undrafted as a kicker in ten. He was 408 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 1: a soccer player at Kentucky and then he transferred to 409 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: Louisville and switched to football during his junior year. So 410 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 1: he will now be the fifth kicker if he has 411 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 1: kicking stats in this game Sunday, the fifth kicker in 412 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: six weeks for the Jaguars, which will be a new 413 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 1: franchise record for kickers used in a season for the 414 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars. The Jacks had four kickers back in two 415 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 1: thousand two, of the year after Mike Hollisp. You know, 416 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 1: it might it might five and five what is it, 417 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: five and six weeks might be in the NFL. I 418 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 1: mean I was, I'm trying to figure out what the 419 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 1: season record would be and I can't. You know, it's 420 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: a deep dig, so it's got to be close, right, 421 00:22:57,119 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: I mean as soon as six week period two thousand 422 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 1: and two they had four. It was a year after Hollis, 423 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 1: so Hollis had left in free agency and then they 424 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if there was injuries or what. I 425 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 1: wasn't around then, but two thousand two they had four 426 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 1: field goal kickers that season that had stats. Can you 427 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: name of the selling Tony your muted for today? I 428 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 1: mean today we got two hours, Tony, I said this 429 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: was the best three minutes of the show yet. Actually, 430 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 1: let's let's put that thing on mute all the time. 431 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: So it's been a while since the Jags have had 432 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 1: this many kickers. Actually, this will be a new new high. 433 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: So anyway, now your now your sound is even that high? 434 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 1: What do you mean? My sound isn't that high? Are 435 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 1: you perfectly? You can't hear me? Isn't he a little fat? No? 436 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: We got him clear. It's probably because you have one 437 00:23:55,320 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 1: of earbuddy in toy by the way, but no, you 438 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: don't have one the computer. What is going on? Hey, Pete? 439 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: Why is like dealing with camera? We can your like nose, 440 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: mouth and shirt because it's my laptop. You to the video? 441 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,919 Speaker 1: You're really we can't even see above your eyes, Pete, Like, 442 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: move your candy back, put your earbuds. What do you 443 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: want to see this? What is that? I don't want 444 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: to see? Predicu. They're not even playing football right now? 445 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: Why do we want to see that? Will be? They 446 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 1: will be playing football? And you know what, this is 447 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 1: the year they're going to the National Championship. They're going 448 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 1: to the Natty. They're gonna run through the pack twelve 449 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: and get in they're I'm going to meet usc. USC's 450 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: a joke. I feel bad for you. All right, can 451 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 1: we the pack twelve is awful? Can we get back 452 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: to the Jaguars please? Okay, he's just for the records, 453 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,159 Speaker 1: thank you. All right, we'll get the kickers coming up one. 454 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,360 Speaker 1: That was the breaking news a moment ago. The Jaguars 455 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 1: announced that, all right, let's also get back to the 456 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: offense a little bit later, because that's a long conversation. 457 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 1: Joe said, you were going to be the kicker, j P. 458 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: Could you reach from forty could you wait? Would you 459 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: have made a field goal from twenty four yard? Yes? 460 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:18,879 Speaker 1: Or no? Oh no, no, no, no, no no. Kicking 461 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:24,199 Speaker 1: has never been my deal man, No way. Yeah make it? 462 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: If I had one of those uh Dempsey flat footed, 463 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: uh the club foot, you gotta go kick at soccer style? 464 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: Could you make it? No? No, I hit the long 465 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: snapper in the end. He wouldn't even make it to 466 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 1: the holder. He would just he would fall down. One 467 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: of the twenty four yards is just embarrassing. I actually 468 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: thought that. I thought that the fact that the forty 469 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 1: nine yarder came up short was worse. Yeah you're right, Yeah, 470 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 1: you're right, they were back to back to that made 471 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: it even worse than them just by themselves. All right, 472 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: let's touch on defense here, because going into the game yesterday, 473 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: a bunch of starters out. I mean, Josh Allen didn't 474 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 1: make the trip. C J Henderson was out with the shoulder, 475 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: Miles Jack was inactive. So it's like, oh, here we go. 476 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 1: Dakota Allen's getting the start at linebacker. You got Sydney 477 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: Jones out there at corner who has bounced around a 478 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,199 Speaker 1: little bit in the league, and then Caleb and Chason 479 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: is making his first career start at defensive end. And 480 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,199 Speaker 1: then Josh Jones gets run out of the game with 481 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: an injection. But you know what, j don't bring. I mean, 482 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: I don't understand why no one's at talking about this person. 483 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: No Nickel quarterback either, DJ Starter he goes out as well. 484 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: So that's five if you want to get those guys 485 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: either way. Veteran corner was not available, so they're going 486 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: into the game. It's like, oh, this could be real trouble. 487 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: But for the first three quarters, guys, they held their 488 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 1: own and played well. I had a couple of takeaways 489 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: and I thought I thought they played pretty well early, well, 490 00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: Tony's right though, that Texans offense isn't very good. It's 491 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: not that David Johnson looks like it takes him a 492 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: week and a day to get to the hole, and 493 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: when there's a hole, it takes him a week in 494 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: a day to get through it. He's slow. Watts is 495 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 1: not playing well. Those were bad decisions. He made bad decisions. 496 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:20,919 Speaker 1: I thought the receivers have speed. They're not bad, but 497 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: they're not. They're little. They have little receivers and they 498 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 1: don't have a number one. They got a bunch of 499 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: number twos and threes and and so it's not a 500 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 1: good offense. What do you think of the offensive line 501 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 1: they have? Because the tunsil makes a lot of money 502 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 1: to play left tackle. He's okay, I mean he listened. 503 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,120 Speaker 1: He's in the upper echelon, but I mean I don't 504 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 1: know if I pay him points in million dollars a 505 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 1: year for three years. Okay, you see that much better 506 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: than Cam Robinson right now? Yesterday? No, No, I've actually 507 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: think Cam's better in the run. Tunks a little bit 508 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 1: better in the past. But that's not a good offense. 509 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,720 Speaker 1: And so yeah, there weren't playing and granted Jackson has 510 00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: had a bad defense and they were down. Well it 511 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: we still we still didn't get pressure. It's some pressure 512 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: on him. None, it was better. I mean we blitzed better. 513 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: We got home with the b and they flushed him some. 514 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 1: But they flushed him part of it, Yeah, but part 515 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 1: of that tape is and Peter, I would love your perspective. 516 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: I don't think Watson is very good in the pocket year. 517 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 1: He's all over the place. I don't think he is either. 518 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 1: I've watched all his games and gone back and watched him. 519 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: I think he's struggling. And when you look up at 520 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 1: the end of the day, what were his numbers? His 521 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: numbers were, We're bad, They're pretty good. Finish with three 522 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 1: touchdown the two interceptions, Watson was twenty five thirty five, 523 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: passing for three fifty nine, three touchdowns, two picks, one nine. 524 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: I know the picks were bad, but I mean that's 525 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: on the paper, that's not it wasn't. That's it this 526 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: way like min choose games at times, don'ty it wasn't 527 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: as good as the stats. Yeah, that's fair. I mean, 528 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: I mean he made now, in fairness to Watson, he 529 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: made some really pretty deep throats. Now he missed the 530 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: wide open David Johnson, but he made some pretty deep throws. 531 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, the one on the sideline when when he 532 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: ran from the slot on Claybrook, that was a great 533 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: bro Hey, how about some of these how about some 534 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: of these guys that stepped in yesterday to start on defense. 535 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 1: Sidney Jones was great. But Sidney Jones I thought, was 536 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: he got an interception a couple of past breakups. I 537 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: thought he was good. He's gotta be on the field. 538 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,719 Speaker 1: He's gotta be on the field no matter what. Pressed with. 539 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: Another guy was impressed with I thought d J. Hayden. 540 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: I thought Trey Herndon, um like praise. Not the fastest guy, 541 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 1: we know that, but he's a tough Sammy defender. And 542 00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: I thought he was physical in the run. He came 543 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: up and made some tackles against David Johnson at the 544 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: Lion scrimmage form the nickel position. Really impressed with him. 545 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: Um was good to see Daniel Thomas out there. He 546 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: was throwing the action. I thought he was okay. Um 547 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,000 Speaker 1: Coda Ellen made a couple of plays. He was much 548 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 1: better than he was the week before. After a week 549 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 1: in preparation and getting a lot of reps. Taysan still 550 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: is not making much of an impact. Um, he had 551 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: a chance one shot at on the stunt on the 552 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 1: stunt on the stunt that he just missed him. But 553 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,440 Speaker 1: he's still learning, and you know, which is normal for 554 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 1: young working defensive ends, especially since he was not it's 555 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,160 Speaker 1: a newer position for him. I contend that JP, you 556 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: watched more SEC football than any of us, But I 557 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: don't remember chaseaw I'm putting his hand on the ground 558 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 1: a lot playing defensive end on person second down for else. 559 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: That's right. I mean we say that every week, but 560 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: that's what he's doing now. It's true. Yeah, but it's hard. 561 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: It's not an easy transition for you. I didn't say yes, 562 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: Davin Brian made a play in the backfield, tackle for loss. 563 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: D you're the two laughing, you're the ones three smiling JP. 564 00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,719 Speaker 1: JP was chuckling and you laughed, you smiled. He had 565 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: a big sprint on your face. It was good, It 566 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 1: was good, happy to be here. It was good for him. 567 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 1: It was good for a table to get that play 568 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,720 Speaker 1: in the backfield. Three tackles, one for a loss. Also, 569 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: Dwan Smooth had a day and duck Bron said, it 570 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 1: is probably the best days had at least a couple 571 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 1: of years on this team. Um, yesterday had two tackles 572 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: that had a sack, three quarterback hits, which was a 573 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: good good day at the office for Smooth yesterday. He's 574 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 1: a good, rotational, try hard guy. That's what he is. Okay, 575 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: But so I agree with that, and I thought you 576 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: did have a good day. But guess what, that's where 577 00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: I think Tavin Bryan is too, a good rotational try guy, 578 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: right and I think they've got a lot of those 579 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 1: guys right now. Correct. I would agree that how did 580 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 1: Hamilton's play in there, because I couldn't really focus in 581 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: on him. Doesn't do much, does he. I mean, he's 582 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 1: pretty good and he's a big body. He's getting better, 583 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: but he does a pretty good job against the run. 584 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: He's not gonna give you much pass rush. I mean 585 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: he's in those guard he's the first and second down 586 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,719 Speaker 1: those guard that he's gonna be a pretty I think 587 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 1: he's gonna be a pretty good down player though. In 588 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 1: the run. Yeah, as a person second down those guy, 589 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: but he's not a dynamic pass rusher. I don't think here, no, 590 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 1: all right, guys, let's come back. We'll get back into 591 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 1: the offensive talk again. Yes we will. Sure you want 592 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: me to come back. We've got an hour and a half, 593 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: so we could probably fill all that with the offensive 594 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: talk with Tony and this one we'll also get to 595 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: the special teams talk again. The Jaguars made a kicking 596 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: change today again. A second hour coming up in a 597 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: little bit. We'll have your social questions and we'll go 598 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 1: around the NFL plenty ahead. 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And I think the game plan 663 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 1: that we were trying to put together was, you know, 664 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:15,360 Speaker 1: to be aggressive and push the ball down the field 665 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,439 Speaker 1: and you know, score points. You know, we felt coming 666 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 1: in with you know, a lot of the you know, 667 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 1: the defensive players out UM, you know, we thought we 668 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,400 Speaker 1: wanted to get a game plan where you know, we 669 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 1: can score. And I mean, that's that's as simple as 670 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,839 Speaker 1: it is. I think you know that's that's what we're 671 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 1: playing and we didn't execute it. That Coach Marone in 672 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 1: Houston yesterday after the loss to the Texans thirty to fourteen, 673 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 1: Welcome Back Jaguars Happy Hour, j P. Shaddrick Tony was 674 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,719 Speaker 1: Sully Pete Frisco your social questions coming up in the 675 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,839 Speaker 1: second hour of the show. So the offense there, there 676 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 1: was the answer right there that we talked about earlier. 677 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 1: That was the plan was to push it down the 678 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 1: gardner through the ball forty nine times in the game. Yes, 679 00:36:55,040 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 1: today way too. What's is it? What does he how 680 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,719 Speaker 1: many attempts does he have this season? Right now he 681 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 1: has the fourth most attempts in the league, six and 682 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,000 Speaker 1: he's second in completions a hundred and thirty seven this 683 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:17,400 Speaker 1: year in the league. Started too much? And what's the 684 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,839 Speaker 1: stat JP, I saw that like in the last five 685 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,160 Speaker 1: times or four times or however many times or maybe 686 00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,440 Speaker 1: the two his entire career that he throws for three 687 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 1: yards that they lose. But that stack gets thrown around 688 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,080 Speaker 1: all the time in the NFL. Usually if you throw 689 00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,359 Speaker 1: for over three hundred not anymore. But he usually used 690 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 1: to be if he took for over three and yard 691 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 1: you were trailing. But not anymore, that's not it's a 692 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 1: different stat now. My point is, you know, that's why 693 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,880 Speaker 1: I just stats with quarterbacks today. You have to change 694 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,000 Speaker 1: your perspective. It's not like it used to be. I mean, 695 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:50,359 Speaker 1: you have to look at the whole thing. I mean, 696 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 1: because if you start playing from behind in these soft 697 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 1: coverages and in all the open spaces, you better put 698 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 1: some yards up. Yeah, it's it's more about the eyes, 699 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 1: what the I tell you, rather than the than the numbers. 700 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 1: I mean, look, Week one, seventy three yards, it's an 701 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 1: efficient week. It's a good week, but he didn't drive 702 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,640 Speaker 1: the ball down the field. Week two was probably his 703 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 1: best game. Yeah, when they rallied back in that game. Yeah, yeah, 704 00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,840 Speaker 1: that was probably his best game. But I mean, I 705 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 1: I just I think Tony's right when he says he 706 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 1: doesn't throw guys open. If you're wide open, you'll find him. 707 00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,680 Speaker 1: And he's still not comfortable in the pocket. He's too 708 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 1: jump in there, he gets out too soon. You have 709 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,400 Speaker 1: to have the confidence you have to get. You have 710 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,319 Speaker 1: to have the confidence to see it and then have 711 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 1: the arm strengthen, order the confidence your arm that you 712 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 1: can just sit there and fired in that tight window. 713 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 1: And I wonder, you know, especially because he gets it's 714 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,880 Speaker 1: almost like as the clock goes on, he starts moving 715 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 1: around and his feet are unsettled. And we saw it 716 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 1: early in the game. He actually missed a pretty open 717 00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:01,439 Speaker 1: um lebiscuits Chernault because he's like out of nowhere. He's 718 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,879 Speaker 1: climbing up like running up the pocket and then trying 719 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,720 Speaker 1: to throw it on the move. The ball it sales 720 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:10,759 Speaker 1: on him so um. And I know people listen, I'm 721 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,799 Speaker 1: not trying to nitpick or pick on Gardner again. I 722 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,239 Speaker 1: want him to be the guy. The bottom line is, 723 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 1: if you look at this team right now, you're one 724 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 1: and four and you were struggling the last couple of 725 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,320 Speaker 1: weeks and score points when it matters. Now you're scoring 726 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 1: points late, you're trying to come back, and you're doing stuff. Um. 727 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 1: But if you look at and you're barely doing that. 728 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:36,279 Speaker 1: The Dolphins, you scored thirteen points, against the Bengals, you 729 00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:42,320 Speaker 1: scored what was but all very late. And against the Texans, 730 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 1: who are terrible defensively, he scored fourteen And this is 731 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 1: in the league. Whatever. This isn't the league where everyone 732 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:52,800 Speaker 1: score points, all right, So let's ask the question. Asked 733 00:39:52,800 --> 00:40:00,120 Speaker 1: the question, I said, we have sixteen weeks to make 734 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 1: that decision, or seventeen weeks with to buye like you know, 735 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,799 Speaker 1: in seventeen weeks, here's another one. All right, Pete. Can't 736 00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:09,279 Speaker 1: he get better from this? You know we're gonna ask 737 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 1: that every week. Yeah, well, you asked it every week. 738 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:15,759 Speaker 1: You asked the other one every week. The difference what 739 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,479 Speaker 1: you are what you are usually that's all I'm gonna say. 740 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 1: I mean, is time out though, I'm gonna call you 741 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:27,360 Speaker 1: on that because two years ago Josh Allen was awful. 742 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,440 Speaker 1: A year ago at this time, he was below average 743 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,920 Speaker 1: and looked like, oh my gosh, he can't see it. 744 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:38,319 Speaker 1: He can't stay in the pocket. He runs at first opportunity. 745 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 1: He's inaccurate in a big arm, but inaccurate, and he 746 00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:50,839 Speaker 1: slowly got better throughout last year. Him tell him, tell 747 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,360 Speaker 1: him the year. In the playoffs, there was still the 748 00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:57,440 Speaker 1: question they didn't win because Josh Allen wasn't ready for 749 00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 1: them to win a playoff game. Then he comes out 750 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,720 Speaker 1: this year and the dude is dealing and the dude 751 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:08,480 Speaker 1: like m v P. You don't tell me, Pete, you 752 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:12,839 Speaker 1: are what you are because you're a quote unquote ever 753 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,239 Speaker 1: And what was he when he came out? He was 754 00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:22,480 Speaker 1: a six ft five for a normal is athletic. You 755 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:24,080 Speaker 1: knew he could. You knew it would just take a 756 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,880 Speaker 1: little bit of footwork and he would be fine. No, 757 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,120 Speaker 1: that's but Pete, that's not fair because no one else, 758 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 1: like there's the majority of people were not on that 759 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,560 Speaker 1: side about Josh Allen. They thought he was going to 760 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,400 Speaker 1: another one. He's gonna play tonight. Justin Herbert when he 761 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:39,640 Speaker 1: came out of Oregon, there were a lot of people 762 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,799 Speaker 1: who thought he's gonna have issues. Correct, Yeah, I like 763 00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,880 Speaker 1: him watching him because I mean, now, if you're telling 764 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:48,879 Speaker 1: me now, a better comment from you that would make 765 00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,719 Speaker 1: sense outside of what you just said being dumb. But 766 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,400 Speaker 1: you can't get better? Is this Like there's certain traits 767 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 1: that if you have, then you have more room to 768 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 1: grow as a quarterback. Like you feel, what is this ceiling? 769 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,280 Speaker 1: Let me finish, Let me finish. Justin Herbert, I'll use him, 770 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 1: six four athletic and has a rocket for an arm. 771 00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,719 Speaker 1: Maybe some questions about decision making in college Is he 772 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,759 Speaker 1: accurate enough? Well, he's come out in the pros and yeah, 773 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:17,440 Speaker 1: can you get better in the pocket? Can he make 774 00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 1: better decisions? Absolutely? But he's accurate, he has a gun, 775 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:25,320 Speaker 1: he's big, and he's fast. And so if your point 776 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,040 Speaker 1: is like there's certain characteristics that you either have or 777 00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,920 Speaker 1: you don't, I agree with that. But to say a 778 00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 1: guy kick it better, I tell what I'm saying is 779 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 1: there's a ceiling. He can get better, but he ain't 780 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 1: going over the ceiling. Where's a guy like Josh Allen 781 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:43,880 Speaker 1: can get better? And that ceiling is way higher and 782 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,640 Speaker 1: we're seeing it now. Same with Herbert. That's not what 783 00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:50,440 Speaker 1: you said, Pete, you said, don't get better? Okay, you 784 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:54,600 Speaker 1: know what I meant. Last year has meant you better 785 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 1: than he was last year? Yes? Is he? I don't 786 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,480 Speaker 1: know how much better is he than you his last year? 787 00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,359 Speaker 1: That's a good question. I like that. That's not a 788 00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,759 Speaker 1: not a lot better, but he's better. I think he's better. 789 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:12,720 Speaker 1: That's interesting moments, I think so. But okay, if justin 790 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:17,240 Speaker 1: Herbert goes the same level of better that that remds 791 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,160 Speaker 1: you goes to who's gonna be a better quarterback? Well, 792 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean there are certain traits that Justin 793 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 1: Herbert have that you are what you are. But you 794 00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:29,960 Speaker 1: have to define that, Pete, because if you said that 795 00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 1: same thing with Drew Brees. And I hate doing this 796 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,840 Speaker 1: because Drew Brees is a little bit of an anomaly. 797 00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,920 Speaker 1: I mean, there's not a lot of guys like but 798 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,440 Speaker 1: he got better year after year. Every year he got better. 799 00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:44,440 Speaker 1: And it's not like he has a rocket for a 800 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:48,520 Speaker 1: right arm. It's not like he's six five. Wasn't he 801 00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 1: like a second round pick though? It wasn't like he 802 00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,279 Speaker 1: was deep down the draft like I agree with you. 803 00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:56,520 Speaker 1: I mean, j P, that's a good point. That's a 804 00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,319 Speaker 1: big time player coming out of the big Okay, all right, 805 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:01,960 Speaker 1: he getta compare him to Drew Brees. Does he have 806 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,200 Speaker 1: the does Gardner means you have the same arm Drew 807 00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 1: Brees has? No, I can't disagree okay to him, No, 808 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,839 Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm just saying, but my comparison to Drew Brees, Okay, 809 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 1: I'll compare him to Russell Wilson, a third rounder. Again, 810 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:22,960 Speaker 1: I'm not saying he has the physical traits. Excuse me, 811 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,160 Speaker 1: as far as arm strength is that Russell Wilson. But 812 00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:29,239 Speaker 1: I'm My contention with you is making the comment he 813 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:33,040 Speaker 1: can't get better, can't you get Okay, let me take 814 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,080 Speaker 1: that comment back. He can get better, but his better 815 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,640 Speaker 1: getting better isn't going to be high enough to make 816 00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,719 Speaker 1: him the long term answer. That's all say. And I'm 817 00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:45,000 Speaker 1: not sure I agree with you. I know you're strong 818 00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,239 Speaker 1: in that. I'm leaning towards that way. By the way, 819 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:51,240 Speaker 1: I know you're strong if you just said in fairness, 820 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,600 Speaker 1: In fairness, you would have said the exact same thing 821 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:59,680 Speaker 1: about Russell Wilson five years ago. Uh. Probably not. Oh, 822 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:03,360 Speaker 1: you're so full of it. You were the most anti 823 00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,799 Speaker 1: in the world. I said, I thought he was I 824 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:08,400 Speaker 1: thought he was decent. I didn't think he was a 825 00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,239 Speaker 1: superstar earlier in those years, and you never thought he 826 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:22,280 Speaker 1: wouldn't be. He's a superstar is remember he is. He's mobile, 827 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:25,400 Speaker 1: and he has a big arm um true or false, 828 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:30,880 Speaker 1: And he has a big arm you've compared, And he's accurate, 829 00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,360 Speaker 1: and he like is a student of the game, and 830 00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,680 Speaker 1: he's competitive, you said, Pete. And I will hope I 831 00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:40,400 Speaker 1: will find somebody who has articles you were so. You said, 832 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,920 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson is just a guy. He only wins because 833 00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:45,840 Speaker 1: of the defense. He only were it wins because of 834 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:49,480 Speaker 1: the stuff around him. He's not earlier. Your quote, No, 835 00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:53,200 Speaker 1: your quote was, he's not a franchise quarterback. And it's 836 00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,799 Speaker 1: based on what you said. Hold on based on you 837 00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:57,759 Speaker 1: saying and if you use the same thing you just 838 00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:01,200 Speaker 1: said about Gardiment Show, then Russell Will it just is 839 00:46:01,239 --> 00:46:03,480 Speaker 1: who he is and you can't get any better. And 840 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,680 Speaker 1: I don't buy that. Well, he first off, he had 841 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,720 Speaker 1: this scoring defense, led the league in scoring four straight years. 842 00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:14,080 Speaker 1: Pretty easy to play quarterback with. No, and now he's better, 843 00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:18,640 Speaker 1: I give you that better the best in the Nflpare 844 00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:20,840 Speaker 1: him too. He's not the best in the NFL, but 845 00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,520 Speaker 1: you're gonna compare him to. You're gonna compare, So you 846 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,840 Speaker 1: just compare gardenments. You're getting better than Drew Brees and 847 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:30,279 Speaker 1: Russell Wills Jackson. Your quarterback issues are solved. You. No, 848 00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:32,680 Speaker 1: you're missing the point. Pete J. P helped me here. 849 00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,560 Speaker 1: I'm saying it's unfair to say a guy can't get better. 850 00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,480 Speaker 1: Now do you want to say you did say that. 851 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,520 Speaker 1: If you want to say, because of his arm strength 852 00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:45,399 Speaker 1: and his size, there's limitations how good he can be, 853 00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:49,760 Speaker 1: that's fair. That's fair. That is a fair comment. What 854 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:56,160 Speaker 1: is the ceiling? I don't know what that is? Is 855 00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:59,879 Speaker 1: it Ryan fit? It is? It? Is it? Uh? It's Pat? 856 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:06,640 Speaker 1: Is it a guy like that's quarterback? Um darn Darnald? No, 857 00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:12,000 Speaker 1: the weak arm, No, the weak arm. Chad Pennington, Chath. 858 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,320 Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna be as good at chat Benning. 859 00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,640 Speaker 1: All right, let's take a time out and think about it. 860 00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,120 Speaker 1: We'll come back. We've got to talk about the kickers 861 00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:23,719 Speaker 1: again before we did, I not dominate Pete right there 862 00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:31,239 Speaker 1: in that segment was held. Yeah, I'm kind of with 863 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,920 Speaker 1: Tony on this one because you know you've been said. 864 00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:38,160 Speaker 1: You said before that Russell Wilson was good, not great, Pete. 865 00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:43,120 Speaker 1: That's your track records. That's not what you said that 866 00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:46,799 Speaker 1: Carson Palmer was better than Wilson in the NFC West 867 00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:48,799 Speaker 1: at one point too. I'm just saying, I don't know, 868 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,560 Speaker 1: we're back in a moment you said Carson Palmer was 869 00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,000 Speaker 1: better than Wilson and the NFC West at one point 870 00:47:54,080 --> 00:48:00,920 Speaker 1: years ago. You did It's Jaguars Happy Hour. Coars Digital 871 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:11,160 Speaker 1: Network dream Finders Homes has a simple commitment to their 872 00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,960 Speaker 1: home buyers deliver unsurpassed quality, uncompromising value, and an extraordinary 873 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:18,000 Speaker 1: level of customization you simply won't find with other home builders. 874 00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,239 Speaker 1: With over forty communities to choose from, you'll find a 875 00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,359 Speaker 1: location you love and the home of your dreams. 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I mean we worked on that play a bunch. 927 00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,120 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you work on things in certain situations. 928 00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,040 Speaker 1: I think that we felt very comfortable with I don't 929 00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:34,719 Speaker 1: think we did a good job executing, and I don't 930 00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:37,040 Speaker 1: think we sold it well enough that the corner was 931 00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,600 Speaker 1: able to get off on it. So, um, you know, 932 00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:41,400 Speaker 1: you work on something during the week, you feel comfortable 933 00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,160 Speaker 1: about it, you know when you're gonna call it in 934 00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:47,399 Speaker 1: that situation, and we just didn't execute itself. To ask 935 00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:48,920 Speaker 1: your question, if if I had to go back and 936 00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:50,600 Speaker 1: know when it wasn't gonna work, would I would? I 937 00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:54,600 Speaker 1: would rather run something else, Obviously I would. That's like 938 00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:57,480 Speaker 1: we're on discussing that fourth in one play with the 939 00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,440 Speaker 1: direct snap to James Robinson and he fumbled before the 940 00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:04,040 Speaker 1: past attempt and welcome back to Jaguar's Happy Hour. J P. Shadrick, 941 00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:08,520 Speaker 1: Pete Prisco, Tony Boselli for the record, Pete, you gave 942 00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:13,880 Speaker 1: the Seahawks draft a C plus. That was a draft 943 00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:20,680 Speaker 1: that had Bruce Servants, Wagner and Russell Wilson draft go back. 944 00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,520 Speaker 1: The first one I met. My reason and for giving 945 00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:28,360 Speaker 1: them that great was they signed Matt Flynn to a 946 00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:31,120 Speaker 1: big contract and then drafted Russell Wilson. So you you 947 00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:32,960 Speaker 1: get to give him a bad grade for one or 948 00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,279 Speaker 1: the other, right, Yeah, give him the bad grade for 949 00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:38,799 Speaker 1: Matt one because it was an A plus on Ussell World. 950 00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:41,760 Speaker 1: Not only the draft was loaded and go read that draft. 951 00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:44,640 Speaker 1: Bruce Evans is a good player. Who else Bruce servant, 952 00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:52,240 Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner, Russell Wilson, a C C plus plus, Robert Turban, 953 00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:59,880 Speaker 1: j Howard, J Howard defensive tackle, linebacker, Corey Tumor, corner 954 00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:04,319 Speaker 1: Jeremy Lane, safety, Winston Guy we know him, offensive guard 955 00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:08,960 Speaker 1: j R. Sweezy and defensive end Greg Scruggs. It was 956 00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:12,040 Speaker 1: a great is an A plus draft. But but you know, 957 00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:14,279 Speaker 1: just like you, just like you look, just like you 958 00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,400 Speaker 1: blew it. On the last segment, I'll say, yeah that 959 00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:20,040 Speaker 1: you went and regraded this in and gave it an 960 00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:23,480 Speaker 1: A plus. So wait, way to go hindsight, Pete, I know, 961 00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:25,880 Speaker 1: but no. See what I do is I go back 962 00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,799 Speaker 1: and admit my mistakes. Unlike most people, they let theirs 963 00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,680 Speaker 1: just sit there. I admit my mistakes. I'll write them 964 00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,360 Speaker 1: out every year. I go back three years to the 965 00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,319 Speaker 1: draft and go back and look at my stupidity, how 966 00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,520 Speaker 1: I made mistakes, but more than that, how the team 967 00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:44,520 Speaker 1: made mistakes. So can you can you like? That's a 968 00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,319 Speaker 1: good exercise that shows humility and self awareness. To make 969 00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:49,200 Speaker 1: sure you call out when you're an idiot, which could 970 00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:52,520 Speaker 1: be often. Can you do that with the last segment? No, 971 00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,960 Speaker 1: because you know what I meant. You took something when 972 00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:58,600 Speaker 1: you perfect You know you agree with me, you just 973 00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:01,359 Speaker 1: don't want to say it. No, I don't. I think 974 00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,719 Speaker 1: he I think he can get better. Okay, well, I 975 00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:09,359 Speaker 1: mean get better? How like? How give me? Give me 976 00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:13,760 Speaker 1: the level of getting better that he's growing for yards 977 00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:17,320 Speaker 1: the game and staying in the pocket longer. What's better? 978 00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,480 Speaker 1: I think? I think. I think he can recognize defense 979 00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,600 Speaker 1: is better. I think he can anticipate back his defense 980 00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:24,840 Speaker 1: is very well. Then, No, I think you can get better. 981 00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:26,640 Speaker 1: I think you can anticipate better. I think he can 982 00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:28,840 Speaker 1: be better in the pocket, keeping his eyes down field. 983 00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:31,359 Speaker 1: I think all those things, Okay, I think he can 984 00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:34,560 Speaker 1: get I think he has gotten a little better anticipating, 985 00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:36,719 Speaker 1: even though he's not great at it. I think he's 986 00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:39,120 Speaker 1: gotten better at things in the pocket, even though he's 987 00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:41,520 Speaker 1: not great at it. But I don't think all that 988 00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:43,960 Speaker 1: will ever take him to a point where he's the 989 00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,640 Speaker 1: guy and that Okay, that's a fair point. Now, I 990 00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:48,960 Speaker 1: can't argue that, and I'm not even sure I disagree 991 00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:50,440 Speaker 1: with you. At this point, I want to I want to, 992 00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:52,640 Speaker 1: I want to see more so that if you would 993 00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:54,400 Speaker 1: have gone with that last segment, Pete, I would say, 994 00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:56,960 Speaker 1: you know what, that's fair because there's gonna be limitations 995 00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:00,960 Speaker 1: on He's never gonna grow. Um, he's not gonna I mean, 996 00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:04,319 Speaker 1: how much could his arms strength increase? Which is the 997 00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:06,680 Speaker 1: difference when you use Josh Allen as the annaloy. You 998 00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:09,680 Speaker 1: can't use Josh Allen, I'm not. My analogy was the 999 00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:14,000 Speaker 1: fact that he got better, but he had the ability 1000 00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:16,840 Speaker 1: to and the tools to get not much better, whereas 1001 00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:19,040 Speaker 1: we don't know that. We don't see that with men show. 1002 00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,440 Speaker 1: And the question is is what it is? The ceiling 1003 00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:25,520 Speaker 1: are the things that are limited limited gardenments? You will 1004 00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:27,279 Speaker 1: they make the ceiling too low for him to be 1005 00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,759 Speaker 1: a Francise quarterback. And everyone likes to go back to 1006 00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,120 Speaker 1: the Patriots picking Tom Brady in the in the fifth 1007 00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:34,279 Speaker 1: in the sixth round and now is one of the 1008 00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:37,319 Speaker 1: all time greatest quarterbacks. Ever, it's an anomaly. Number one, 1009 00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:40,520 Speaker 1: it doesn't happen very often. Number two, Tom Brady had 1010 00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:44,520 Speaker 1: a strong arm. Brady is six four or six five. Ever, 1011 00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:48,799 Speaker 1: taally is tom Brady was not a great athlete, right so, 1012 00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:52,000 Speaker 1: and he couldn't run very well. He's never run very well. 1013 00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:56,560 Speaker 1: But what Tom Brady proved he was was great, super smart, 1014 00:55:57,080 --> 00:55:59,120 Speaker 1: great to recognize the defense is and is one of 1015 00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:01,360 Speaker 1: the best pocket as there's a buying time in the 1016 00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:05,760 Speaker 1: pocket in the history of the game. His his limiting 1017 00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:09,600 Speaker 1: factors of athletic ability, especially in the air that he 1018 00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:13,160 Speaker 1: became great, which is we're not big enough to stop him. 1019 00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:15,200 Speaker 1: He still had a high ceiling and he proved that out. 1020 00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:17,560 Speaker 1: And that people missed it in the draft. 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Gardner Minshew after the game yesterday in Houston, 1094 01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:35,800 Speaker 1: Welcome back second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour on this Monday, 1095 01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:38,840 Speaker 1: after a thirty to fourteen loss to the Texans, fifth 1096 01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:40,880 Speaker 1: in a row that the Jags have lost to Houston, 1097 01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:44,120 Speaker 1: fourth in a row the Jags have lost this season. 1098 01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:48,439 Speaker 1: J P Shadrick, Pete Prisco, Tony BROUSSELLI glad you're along 1099 01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:52,320 Speaker 1: with us. Big stories. Well yes, before we get before 1100 01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:54,440 Speaker 1: we getting a big story. Sorry, I want to cut 1101 01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:58,040 Speaker 1: you off, um min she said something. I want to 1102 01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:00,800 Speaker 1: give Dougs some credit because I mean, you know, question 1103 01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:02,720 Speaker 1: calls and you know, we didn't like the call to 1104 01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:05,760 Speaker 1: go on and we're questioning, you know, Jay Gruden getting 1105 01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:07,400 Speaker 1: away from the run game and everything else. But this 1106 01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:09,120 Speaker 1: is the one thing that Doug and his coaching staff 1107 01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:11,800 Speaker 1: has done a great job with. The one thing you 1108 01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:14,320 Speaker 1: can't question is how hard these guys play. I mean, 1109 01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:16,680 Speaker 1: it is a group that plays hard from the first 1110 01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:20,440 Speaker 1: snap the last step. And you know what, that is 1111 01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:23,040 Speaker 1: a reflection of Doug Rown and his coaching staff. They 1112 01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:25,040 Speaker 1: have a lot of young players. It is not easy 1113 01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:27,640 Speaker 1: to coach this many rookies and second year players, and 1114 01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:30,320 Speaker 1: especially with the offseason these guys had and trying to 1115 01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:32,760 Speaker 1: install and get things in there, and the fact that 1116 01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:35,120 Speaker 1: they have come out and that they and I know 1117 01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:37,040 Speaker 1: no one wants to hear this as fans, and I 1118 01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:38,960 Speaker 1: get it. It's about winning and losing, and being one 1119 01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:42,600 Speaker 1: of four stinks. It's awful, and losing the way we've 1120 01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:44,520 Speaker 1: lost a few last few weeks is no fun and 1121 01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:47,960 Speaker 1: it stinks. But these guys, you can't question the effort 1122 01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:50,360 Speaker 1: and the preparation and the hard work these guys are 1123 01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:53,600 Speaker 1: putting in. They're young, they're inexperience, and they're inconsistent, and 1124 01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:55,160 Speaker 1: that's why you've seen a lot of these issues and 1125 01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:59,800 Speaker 1: they don't seem like they get and there they don't. 1126 01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:02,520 Speaker 1: Nobody likes losing. But back in the day when when 1127 01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:05,000 Speaker 1: I covered you guys and you guys lost your babies 1128 01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:08,920 Speaker 1: about it. Half the team, I mean, seriously, it's in 1129 01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:10,560 Speaker 1: one game and you go in the locker room and 1130 01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:12,640 Speaker 1: they start screaming at you and yelling at you and 1131 01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:17,439 Speaker 1: getting I mean, you would agree that it's different, Tony, Well, 1132 01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:19,680 Speaker 1: this is now we don't know either because we're not 1133 01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:24,320 Speaker 1: in the locker room. Pete, that's true, but I mean, 1134 01:02:24,360 --> 01:02:27,440 Speaker 1: but it doesn't seem like this is the teammate. And 1135 01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:29,960 Speaker 1: granted it's a lot of young players. I get it, 1136 01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:32,200 Speaker 1: but even that team, when Tony was on the team, 1137 01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:34,880 Speaker 1: they had young players. When they'd lose, it was like 1138 01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:36,520 Speaker 1: you'd go in the locker room and it would be 1139 01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:40,040 Speaker 1: like it was nasty almost at times. And I don't 1140 01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:43,320 Speaker 1: know why that was. Maybe it was me, but I was. 1141 01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:47,760 Speaker 1: All signs point to that, yes, probably, but Tony knows 1142 01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:49,920 Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. It was different. It was like 1143 01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:54,480 Speaker 1: an it was an anger after lost. Is team you 1144 01:02:54,560 --> 01:02:58,280 Speaker 1: talking about nineties? Even the nine team to take I 1145 01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:03,280 Speaker 1: take them, which was bad? That team too. Yeah, we 1146 01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:05,400 Speaker 1: were not I mean I was not pleasant to be 1147 01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:09,200 Speaker 1: around if we lost. Oh but you were. You were 1148 01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:12,000 Speaker 1: not pleasant, but you stood up and you answered the 1149 01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:16,680 Speaker 1: questions and you were never totally disrespectful. There were times, 1150 01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:19,640 Speaker 1: I mean, you and I have talked about this on 1151 01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:21,480 Speaker 1: the show. A number of times. I was in a 1152 01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:25,080 Speaker 1: bad mood and I might be a little bit uh cranky, 1153 01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:28,960 Speaker 1: short or cranky and pushed back. But I always knew 1154 01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:30,320 Speaker 1: that you guys had a job to do, and I 1155 01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:32,600 Speaker 1: respected the job the media had to do. That it 1156 01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:34,560 Speaker 1: was part of the process, and that win or lose, 1157 01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:36,680 Speaker 1: you have to stand up and take your medicine. And 1158 01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:39,400 Speaker 1: you know, and you know you always do in the 1159 01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:40,640 Speaker 1: back of your head that you were going to be 1160 01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:45,600 Speaker 1: a member of the media. I can honestly say that 1161 01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:47,200 Speaker 1: is not true. It's gonna need the Hall of Fame 1162 01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:53,600 Speaker 1: votes that some day. So yeah, that Tony knows what 1163 01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:56,640 Speaker 1: I'm talking about. Tony knows exactly what I'm talking about. 1164 01:03:57,240 --> 01:03:59,320 Speaker 1: It's just and I don't get and that's that's not 1165 01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:00,880 Speaker 1: a bad thing. By the way, It doesn't mean they 1166 01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:03,760 Speaker 1: care any less, just that they they seem to be 1167 01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:06,560 Speaker 1: guys that want to go out and play hard, work 1168 01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:10,120 Speaker 1: hard if you lose. It's not getting ugly, which I 1169 01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:12,160 Speaker 1: think is. And I'm gonna go back to the flipping 1170 01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:15,720 Speaker 1: of the culture because the last team you had problems 1171 01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:18,840 Speaker 1: with some of those guys. There were some guys that 1172 01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:23,040 Speaker 1: were nasty and the culture wasn't great. So I think 1173 01:04:23,080 --> 01:04:25,960 Speaker 1: that's a good thing. And now and here's the flip 1174 01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:28,240 Speaker 1: of the flip side of that peak. The test is 1175 01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:31,160 Speaker 1: coming that if you keep on rolling off loss after 1176 01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:34,760 Speaker 1: loss after loss, let me know, it'll be interesting to 1177 01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:37,880 Speaker 1: see how Doug manages his young team if they can't 1178 01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:40,840 Speaker 1: get to win this week against Detroit Um, which is 1179 01:04:40,840 --> 01:04:42,520 Speaker 1: not a really very good team, but they have a 1180 01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:46,720 Speaker 1: very good quarterback and they are fighting for a coaching staff, 1181 01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:50,880 Speaker 1: fighting for their jobs. Um. I guess similar to Jacksonville. 1182 01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:52,880 Speaker 1: If you lose this one and then you gotta go 1183 01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:55,640 Speaker 1: to l A and you're one and six going into 1184 01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:59,320 Speaker 1: that bye week, it'll be interesting. Yeah. But I just 1185 01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:01,200 Speaker 1: don't get this that this is a group made up 1186 01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:03,280 Speaker 1: of guys that are going to get nasty. I mean, 1187 01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:05,080 Speaker 1: if you just think about it, they don't see it. 1188 01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:06,840 Speaker 1: Somebody I heard on the radio the other day. I 1189 01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:08,880 Speaker 1: was listening Jacksonville radio the other day and I and 1190 01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:11,800 Speaker 1: and somebody said that Minshew was a little short with 1191 01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:15,440 Speaker 1: his answers last week. Is that true? JP in Cincinnati 1192 01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:19,680 Speaker 1: No during the week last week, because he seems like 1193 01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:21,480 Speaker 1: he's always the guy that comes up and answer the 1194 01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:25,360 Speaker 1: questions he's you know, I don't. I didn't really see that. Honestly, 1195 01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:27,800 Speaker 1: he's he answers a question, he kind of gives you 1196 01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:30,520 Speaker 1: a quote or two that that will be a money quote, 1197 01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:33,040 Speaker 1: but then he doesn't give you a lot either. You know, 1198 01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:36,840 Speaker 1: he'll say some things without saying anything. But he seems 1199 01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:41,000 Speaker 1: like a guy that eat at his core. So he 1200 01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:44,080 Speaker 1: might get tired of answering the same questions week maybe, 1201 01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:46,200 Speaker 1: But I don't think he's I think he's the same 1202 01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:48,640 Speaker 1: way you talked about Tony though. I think he understands 1203 01:05:48,720 --> 01:05:51,160 Speaker 1: why he has to be there. Yeah, yeah, I heard 1204 01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:53,760 Speaker 1: he's great with the media. Again, I don't understand that, 1205 01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:56,040 Speaker 1: but I just heard that. I don't know who said it. 1206 01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:57,840 Speaker 1: Maybe it was one of the guys on Franjie Show 1207 01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:00,040 Speaker 1: or heyes, or one of those guys said it, and 1208 01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:03,480 Speaker 1: it was I'll say this too, knowing the competitor that 1209 01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:05,560 Speaker 1: he is, and I don't know him well, don't mind you, 1210 01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:07,920 Speaker 1: but knowing being around the building a little bit, and 1211 01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:11,440 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised at all if he's upset with 1212 01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:13,800 Speaker 1: the way things are going right now, and maybe it 1213 01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:20,680 Speaker 1: does bleed a little bit. That's so, And I'm with you, guys, 1214 01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:23,560 Speaker 1: I would be angry too, but I didn't notice it. 1215 01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:25,840 Speaker 1: Let's put it that way. If you heard that, maybe 1216 01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:27,960 Speaker 1: somebody what I heard on the radio. I don't. I 1217 01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:29,600 Speaker 1: don't live there anymore. I'm not in that locker room, 1218 01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:32,400 Speaker 1: not around the team every day. Yeah, but neither anybody. 1219 01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:35,400 Speaker 1: But I don't think. Yeah, I would be more upset 1220 01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:38,680 Speaker 1: if he wasn't upset about what's going on right now. 1221 01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:40,800 Speaker 1: And I think he wants to go win games and 1222 01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:43,280 Speaker 1: be a great quarterback, So why wouldn't he be a 1223 01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:46,040 Speaker 1: little bit maybe had a little bit of attitude. Okay, fine. 1224 01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:48,560 Speaker 1: It would be frustrating to be a media guy covering 1225 01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:51,640 Speaker 1: the team nowadays because the way everything is, you can't 1226 01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:54,240 Speaker 1: really cover him. You're not covering them, so weird man, 1227 01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:56,720 Speaker 1: not being in there. It really is. Yeah, I mean, 1228 01:06:56,960 --> 01:07:00,240 Speaker 1: you got no relationships, you got no no gossip, no 1229 01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:02,760 Speaker 1: who you know what I mean. It's it. It'd be 1230 01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:04,800 Speaker 1: tough to cover with the tea. If I was the 1231 01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:07,960 Speaker 1: beat guy, and nowadays, in this year, I would have 1232 01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:11,040 Speaker 1: a hard time with it. I'd be calling guys on 1233 01:07:11,080 --> 01:07:14,840 Speaker 1: the phone and you gotta be able to communicate, Like, 1234 01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:17,680 Speaker 1: I don't know, the rookie class. I don't know those 1235 01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:22,960 Speaker 1: guys the drift, Like, right, what kind of guy is 1236 01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:26,200 Speaker 1: James Robbinson, Like, I've seen him on the conference calls. 1237 01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:28,120 Speaker 1: I'm sure he's a nice he seems like a nice guy, 1238 01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:30,360 Speaker 1: and he's playing well, and but it'd be nice to 1239 01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:33,280 Speaker 1: just have a ten minute conversation with him. I don't 1240 01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:35,400 Speaker 1: know if i'd know what any of these guys look 1241 01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:40,520 Speaker 1: like if I saw him on the street, right, I mean, 1242 01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:44,120 Speaker 1: it's it's just like we're never around him. Like when 1243 01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:46,000 Speaker 1: Fred was out of his rookie yeard, I remember going 1244 01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:47,880 Speaker 1: to his locker and sitting there talking to him, and 1245 01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:49,760 Speaker 1: he said he could rush for two thousand. I had 1246 01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:56,480 Speaker 1: a headline and he could have yeah, and he could 1247 01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:58,320 Speaker 1: scored a lot of touchdowns if Tom didn't take him 1248 01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:06,480 Speaker 1: out either. Don't say that, believe me. Yeah, let's get 1249 01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:08,720 Speaker 1: to some of the headlines of the day, of course, 1250 01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:13,040 Speaker 1: the offense struggling and key moments. Yesterday in Houston, there 1251 01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:15,720 Speaker 1: were three times inside the twenty five yard line that 1252 01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:19,599 Speaker 1: they came away with zero points, and one of those 1253 01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:21,240 Speaker 1: that they got to the twenty one at the deepest 1254 01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:22,800 Speaker 1: point and then had a holding call and missed a 1255 01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:25,240 Speaker 1: forty nine yard field goal, they were down inside the 1256 01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:28,040 Speaker 1: tenant one point at a fourth and one came away 1257 01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:31,080 Speaker 1: without points. Did they bail on the run? Tune soon? 1258 01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:34,479 Speaker 1: That's a talking point today, Gardner though, as we've talked 1259 01:08:34,479 --> 01:08:37,720 Speaker 1: about in this show already, he's throwing at forty nine 1260 01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:40,479 Speaker 1: times a game. That maybe a bit too many, especially 1261 01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:42,479 Speaker 1: when a lot of that game was a one score 1262 01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:45,320 Speaker 1: game a lot of the time. Yesterday, defense though, did 1263 01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:48,920 Speaker 1: their best considering the the starters that were out of 1264 01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:52,880 Speaker 1: the football game. Four starters missed yesterday and another was 1265 01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:56,679 Speaker 1: kicked out ejected from the game, but got away from 1266 01:08:56,800 --> 01:08:59,519 Speaker 1: that group of guys on defense in the fourth quarter. 1267 01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:03,400 Speaker 1: Either way, it's a fourth straight loss and the third 1268 01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:05,040 Speaker 1: straight loss to a team that I don't won a 1269 01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:08,519 Speaker 1: game yet. Let's stay let's stay at the defense. Be it. 1270 01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:10,360 Speaker 1: I'd like to beat your perspective and this defense get 1271 01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:13,920 Speaker 1: better this year? Or is this an off season problem? 1272 01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:15,599 Speaker 1: I meanbe Jeff and I have talked about it quite 1273 01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:18,439 Speaker 1: a bit. You think this is an off season issue 1274 01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:20,160 Speaker 1: that you can't address? Still, then it is what it 1275 01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:22,160 Speaker 1: is that they're gonna give a bunch of points every week? 1276 01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:26,559 Speaker 1: Or can they get better. M m uh. They have 1277 01:09:26,600 --> 01:09:28,320 Speaker 1: a chance to get a little bit better, but I 1278 01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:30,800 Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna be significantly better. I think they 1279 01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:35,479 Speaker 1: lack power players inside to push the pocket. They lack 1280 01:09:36,160 --> 01:09:40,800 Speaker 1: corners who well, let's let me correct myself, because I 1281 01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:45,000 Speaker 1: think Henderson and Herndon and maybe if Sidney Jones starts 1282 01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:47,879 Speaker 1: playing you had it's the group, isn't That isn't awful? 1283 01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:50,519 Speaker 1: What do you think about the safety spot? I mean, 1284 01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:53,640 Speaker 1: you got Wilson back, he made a play yesterday, A right, 1285 01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:57,840 Speaker 1: Josh Jones is a really good He's really good, really 1286 01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:02,200 Speaker 1: good at the run. Not a good coverage guy. I mean, 1287 01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:05,120 Speaker 1: I wouldn't mean to be fair. I can't remember him 1288 01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:10,080 Speaker 1: being a liability coverage though. Yeah maybe. But um but 1289 01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:12,760 Speaker 1: if you get Wilson back and you've got a good group, 1290 01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:14,720 Speaker 1: that's not a bad group. But again, it all goes 1291 01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:16,479 Speaker 1: back Tony. You know what this league is all about, 1292 01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:19,519 Speaker 1: passers and pass rushers. If you have a pastor in 1293 01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:22,240 Speaker 1: the pass rusher and pass rushers, you should be good. 1294 01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:25,080 Speaker 1: So I'll say this, I think I think they can 1295 01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:27,080 Speaker 1: get better. I think there's a ceiling how good they 1296 01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:29,000 Speaker 1: can be. But the only way they're getting better than Miles. 1297 01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:31,960 Speaker 1: Jack is healthy the rest of the year, and Josh 1298 01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:35,280 Speaker 1: Allen um finds his group as a pass rusher that's 1299 01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:38,360 Speaker 1: on the chance out closed. Were those guys to playing? 1300 01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:40,960 Speaker 1: I know Alan wasn't close, but how it sounded like 1301 01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:43,879 Speaker 1: Jack was close at one point? Well, I think the 1302 01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:46,280 Speaker 1: word I heard of the press conference today, JP. Correct 1303 01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:49,160 Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong that Doug Browne felt good about 1304 01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:52,720 Speaker 1: everyone being back this week or injury wise, except for 1305 01:10:53,640 --> 01:10:59,280 Speaker 1: Andrew Winger and Josh Lambeau. Correct. Yeah, Lambeau was going 1306 01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:01,600 Speaker 1: to be until they switched the schedule around, and he 1307 01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:04,880 Speaker 1: had a chance right after that original by, but now 1308 01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:07,040 Speaker 1: it's going to be after the new by. But yeah, 1309 01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:10,839 Speaker 1: Wingered is out for a little bit. Sounds like abdominal issue. 1310 01:11:11,479 --> 01:11:13,400 Speaker 1: But the other guys they said they see about Josh 1311 01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:16,799 Speaker 1: Allen on Wednesday. Didn't have anything really definitive today on Alan. 1312 01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:18,840 Speaker 1: But we'll see on Wednesday when they all come back 1313 01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:21,680 Speaker 1: to practice. So Allen didn't make it, so he was 1314 01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:24,599 Speaker 1: done to begin with. Yeah, I think they can get 1315 01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:27,880 Speaker 1: better like Allan's I'm still a big believer in Josh Allen. 1316 01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:31,639 Speaker 1: I think he's a really good player. So um and 1317 01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:33,960 Speaker 1: Miles Jack is the best player in the football team 1318 01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:36,559 Speaker 1: right now. He gets back healthy, that's gonna help him. 1319 01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:38,880 Speaker 1: And I do believe that table On Chase On can 1320 01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:41,000 Speaker 1: get better throughout the year and he'll get more comfortable 1321 01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:43,320 Speaker 1: rushing in the pastor in the position these playing, because 1322 01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:46,080 Speaker 1: I do think he's a good athlete and he has 1323 01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:48,280 Speaker 1: some physical gifts that can help. But I see him 1324 01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:50,479 Speaker 1: getting better throughout the year. So I think they can't 1325 01:11:50,479 --> 01:11:52,000 Speaker 1: get better because I think the rush of the pastor 1326 01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:56,080 Speaker 1: you know, they'll be improved as the year goes on. Yeah, 1327 01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:57,679 Speaker 1: I would agree with you. I think they can get better. 1328 01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:00,519 Speaker 1: I just don't know how much better. And gotta get 1329 01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:05,559 Speaker 1: down interior guys pocket that's what they need. They need 1330 01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:08,080 Speaker 1: down interior guys who can push the pocket. And that's 1331 01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:10,760 Speaker 1: that's an offseason deal. Man. You can't do that right now. 1332 01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:13,400 Speaker 1: Hard to do that right now. I mean, they're promoting 1333 01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:15,639 Speaker 1: us in the practice squad, but you can't go outside 1334 01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:19,760 Speaker 1: the building and just find those. I mean, And in 1335 01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:22,439 Speaker 1: the last four games, all offsines, they've given up over 1336 01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:28,320 Speaker 1: I mean they have. I mean, that's just that's hard 1337 01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:30,639 Speaker 1: to win football games when you're giving with that many points. 1338 01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:34,560 Speaker 1: They're not. It's a league full of bad defenses, and 1339 01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:36,639 Speaker 1: they're one of the worst. Let's be honest about it. 1340 01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:40,400 Speaker 1: You said last week they're the worst. Pete, Yeah, they 1341 01:12:40,479 --> 01:12:45,559 Speaker 1: might be, so you said they were. I'm just now 1342 01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:47,880 Speaker 1: you're backing on. I'm trying to I'm trying to be 1343 01:12:48,000 --> 01:12:50,720 Speaker 1: nicer this week. You're a little harsh. Last week, I'll 1344 01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:53,840 Speaker 1: say they're the worst. They're the worst defense in the league. 1345 01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:57,000 Speaker 1: I mean beat like, he's extremes. You can't get better? 1346 01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:01,720 Speaker 1: This ceiling is this? He is? What? Are they the 1347 01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:09,440 Speaker 1: worst team in the league? Defense? No? Who is? Um? 1348 01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:13,040 Speaker 1: I was gonna say the Bengals probably they got what 1349 01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:17,880 Speaker 1: Gino aackages on the field. They don't have the Jets. 1350 01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:21,280 Speaker 1: The Jets are terrible on defense. They're bad, They're they're 1351 01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:23,280 Speaker 1: probably the Jets and the Jaguars are probably two of 1352 01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:27,120 Speaker 1: the worst. They're two worst. Trying to think who else 1353 01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:31,240 Speaker 1: is really bad there? The Falcons are pretty close. Everybody's 1354 01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:38,000 Speaker 1: don't give them mhm. Alright, let's let's get back to 1355 01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:43,800 Speaker 1: defense stakes too. You know, they're on pace to give 1356 01:13:43,800 --> 01:13:45,599 Speaker 1: it the most yards in the history of the NFL 1357 01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:49,479 Speaker 1: right now, the defense, and they're five and Oh, what 1358 01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:53,320 Speaker 1: about the Miami Dolphins scored more points at that stadium 1359 01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:56,519 Speaker 1: in Santa clar contain any other team ever going in there? 1360 01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:59,760 Speaker 1: Think about that? It's crazy. It's amazing, really is Hey, 1361 01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:03,760 Speaker 1: let's come back in a moment and social questions. 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We 1411 01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:19,320 Speaker 1: roll along on this Monday. J. P. Shadrick with Pete 1412 01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:24,320 Speaker 1: Prisco in South Florida and Tony Boselli Somewhere where are 1413 01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:29,120 Speaker 1: you today? Tony? I'm in? I'm okay, Oh you're at 1414 01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:31,160 Speaker 1: the beach, all right, good, couldn't tell. I couldn't tell 1415 01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:34,320 Speaker 1: from that vantage point. If you're watching on Jaguars Facebook 1416 01:17:34,360 --> 01:17:37,799 Speaker 1: or Jaguars dot com at this time. Now for social 1417 01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:40,960 Speaker 1: media questions, we've put the bat signal out early in 1418 01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:44,080 Speaker 1: the day and here's what we've come up with today. 1419 01:17:45,280 --> 01:17:51,160 Speaker 1: Question number one at Samuel Underscore of Underscore Duval, what's 1420 01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:58,040 Speaker 1: the worst mistake we made this past offseason? And a 1421 01:17:58,120 --> 01:18:02,000 Speaker 1: good one. Stop. I'll let you go first. I gotta 1422 01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:06,480 Speaker 1: think about that. Stumped, wow, what a question. The worst mistake? 1423 01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:16,840 Speaker 1: Um wow? This was this one? Keep its status quoe? Yeah. 1424 01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:21,360 Speaker 1: I mean some would say, you know, calais right, Klaus, 1425 01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:23,800 Speaker 1: letting some of those kind of guys go, you know 1426 01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:26,640 Speaker 1: the bigger Most people would say the biggest mistake was 1427 01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:32,600 Speaker 1: keeping it status quo. Let's be honest, coaching staff and 1428 01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:37,240 Speaker 1: GM is what you mean, correct? I could argue getting 1429 01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:40,120 Speaker 1: to the point where it was so toxic that one 1430 01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:42,800 Speaker 1: of your best young defensive players and Gokway didn't want 1431 01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:45,040 Speaker 1: to stay on the roster and was willing to go 1432 01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:47,679 Speaker 1: pay play for what six million dollars lest or seven 1433 01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:51,920 Speaker 1: million dollars left, whatever it was in um Minnesota instead 1434 01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:54,640 Speaker 1: of signing a deal with you. Because the bottom line is, 1435 01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:57,960 Speaker 1: and we can argue whether in Goquay was worth the 1436 01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:00,439 Speaker 1: money he was asking for, which I would say millions 1437 01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:03,200 Speaker 1: too much for Godway. But at the same time, if 1438 01:19:03,240 --> 01:19:05,439 Speaker 1: you figure out how to get a deal done within Gockway, 1439 01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:08,479 Speaker 1: you use that first rounder on probably someone else in 1440 01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:11,400 Speaker 1: Cable and Chase on Dad. You know, to some issues, 1441 01:19:11,439 --> 01:19:14,360 Speaker 1: you have another parts of the roster possibly um, And 1442 01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:17,360 Speaker 1: so I think it's it's it's always bad to get 1443 01:19:17,439 --> 01:19:20,479 Speaker 1: rid of guys who love football and are good players. 1444 01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:22,679 Speaker 1: Um that you drat that you found in the third round. 1445 01:19:22,720 --> 01:19:25,040 Speaker 1: I would say that, And I get why they had to. 1446 01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:27,880 Speaker 1: It was too much water in the bridge. And if 1447 01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:30,840 Speaker 1: and not being a part of those negotiations, if Dave 1448 01:19:31,000 --> 01:19:33,360 Speaker 1: Caldwell and the Jaguars organization told us that he was 1449 01:19:33,400 --> 01:19:37,720 Speaker 1: not signing for anything under twenty million, then um, that 1450 01:19:37,720 --> 01:19:42,000 Speaker 1: would make then maybe it's not as big as a mistake. Um. 1451 01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:44,559 Speaker 1: I mean outside of that getting bad luck of signing 1452 01:19:44,680 --> 01:19:47,760 Speaker 1: defensive interior defensive linement. One you've got a bad heart 1453 01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:50,960 Speaker 1: and another one who decided to op out. You know, 1454 01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:53,160 Speaker 1: is that a bad decision or bad luck it's just 1455 01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:55,680 Speaker 1: bad all the way around. It's tough to place that 1456 01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:59,720 Speaker 1: on Um, Dave and Doug Um. You didn't know al 1457 01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:01,920 Speaker 1: would just gonna opt out you even though this pandemic 1458 01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:04,400 Speaker 1: was gonna be what it is. I still don't understand 1459 01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:09,840 Speaker 1: the process of the pre physical um of Gunter before 1460 01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:12,200 Speaker 1: you signed him as a free agent. Why the issue 1461 01:20:12,240 --> 01:20:15,680 Speaker 1: wasn't caught beforehand? Um? You know, so not knowing enough 1462 01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:18,120 Speaker 1: about that. I'm not going to comment, but that's probably 1463 01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:20,200 Speaker 1: more bad luck than bad decision. And then I think 1464 01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:22,280 Speaker 1: a lot of people would probably agree with a lot 1465 01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:24,519 Speaker 1: of people would say the big mistake was is not 1466 01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:27,519 Speaker 1: making a change. Okay, I'm gonna ask you this, Tony. 1467 01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:30,760 Speaker 1: You said if they had signed in gock Way, they 1468 01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:33,960 Speaker 1: wouldn't drafted Caleb and Jason. Correct, you wouldn't need them. 1469 01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:37,200 Speaker 1: You wouldn't need them. Okay, Okay, let's go through the 1470 01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:39,400 Speaker 1: back end after Chason was picked, and you tell me 1471 01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:42,040 Speaker 1: which guy you would want on the roster in place 1472 01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:47,360 Speaker 1: of him, just that you know, Jalen reagor I'm gonna 1473 01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:49,799 Speaker 1: who that is the place wide receiver for the Eagles. 1474 01:20:50,479 --> 01:20:55,240 Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson. He's really good, But you drafted Chenalt in 1475 01:20:55,280 --> 01:20:59,880 Speaker 1: the second that's fine, but just really good. Okay, Yeah, 1476 01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:05,000 Speaker 1: he's very good. Yeah, Kenneth Murray the linebacker, been a 1477 01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:09,240 Speaker 1: linebacker for the Chargers. He's not really good. Great, he's good. 1478 01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:12,400 Speaker 1: But okay, you would have probably you've already already signed, 1479 01:21:13,400 --> 01:21:18,200 Speaker 1: so you're not gonna pick up back? Uh who you're 1480 01:21:18,200 --> 01:21:28,519 Speaker 1: going in an out? Uh? Jordan's Love No, Uh Jordan Brooks, 1481 01:21:28,520 --> 01:21:34,559 Speaker 1: No Patrick Queen. But you've already signed Shoberah Wilson the 1482 01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:39,240 Speaker 1: right tackle. No, No, ig Benogady, No Jeff Gladney. You'd 1483 01:21:39,240 --> 01:21:41,320 Speaker 1: already drafted the corner. You're gonna draft another one in 1484 01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:44,439 Speaker 1: the first round. Well, you could argue that, and how's 1485 01:21:44,479 --> 01:21:46,719 Speaker 1: that corner? The guy you just said, how is he playing? 1486 01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:49,200 Speaker 1: Glad He plays for the Vikings. You saw him last night. 1487 01:21:49,240 --> 01:21:51,200 Speaker 1: He played for He's a good player. But you already 1488 01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:55,360 Speaker 1: drafted Henderson at nine. Overall, you're doing two corners where 1489 01:21:55,360 --> 01:21:57,080 Speaker 1: wherever you could argue, But at my point is I 1490 01:21:57,080 --> 01:21:59,400 Speaker 1: guess you would argue if you if you haven't got 1491 01:21:59,439 --> 01:22:01,360 Speaker 1: what would just and that you know when you had 1492 01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:03,600 Speaker 1: a second round, a second first round, or would you 1493 01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:06,479 Speaker 1: would you put a spend it on a big man inside. 1494 01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:08,000 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of things that means a 1495 01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:10,559 Speaker 1: lot of what ifs. I'm not saying Listen, by the way, 1496 01:22:10,600 --> 01:22:13,760 Speaker 1: I'm not even arguing that trading in Gockway was the 1497 01:22:13,800 --> 01:22:16,840 Speaker 1: wrong move overall, because you have to understand what the 1498 01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:19,720 Speaker 1: negotiations were, how much money he's working for. I mean, 1499 01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:21,640 Speaker 1: the question stunted me, to be honest with you, and 1500 01:22:21,640 --> 01:22:24,280 Speaker 1: I'm I was grasping at straws a little bit to 1501 01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:26,840 Speaker 1: figure out what the biggest mistake in this offseason was. 1502 01:22:27,080 --> 01:22:29,200 Speaker 1: And I didn't want to jump on the bandwagon with 1503 01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:33,439 Speaker 1: Pete who said keeping status quo and so um Like, 1504 01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:35,920 Speaker 1: I could argue that trading and Dockway was the right 1505 01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:40,080 Speaker 1: move because of um the contract situation, but I go 1506 01:22:40,200 --> 01:22:43,920 Speaker 1: back to the bad blood in the feelings between the 1507 01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:46,759 Speaker 1: organization and in Gockway. We're not just this. This past 1508 01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:49,760 Speaker 1: offseason is an issue that was boiling. It was a 1509 01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:52,759 Speaker 1: boiling issue or rising to the top of a major 1510 01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:57,400 Speaker 1: issue over the last probably twelve months and so. But 1511 01:22:57,400 --> 01:22:59,360 Speaker 1: but the way the draft dropped out, you know, because 1512 01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:01,200 Speaker 1: you think you'd if you if you had a got Way, 1513 01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:03,479 Speaker 1: you'd want a big power player inside. That's what you 1514 01:23:03,479 --> 01:23:07,080 Speaker 1: would ideally like it really wasn't there wasn't one there. Yeah, 1515 01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:08,599 Speaker 1: you'd have to make that. You don't have to pick 1516 01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:10,800 Speaker 1: kin Law at number nine and then get the corner 1517 01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:15,080 Speaker 1: later in the draft. Correct. So there you go. There's 1518 01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:17,760 Speaker 1: question number one, and that's a doozy that that got 1519 01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:20,519 Speaker 1: us going here on the social questions. Let's go to 1520 01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:24,639 Speaker 1: question number two at Jags. As we continue to get 1521 01:23:24,640 --> 01:23:27,000 Speaker 1: deeper into the season, as Gardner approving more and more 1522 01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:31,000 Speaker 1: to not be the guy In Eric quotes, what would 1523 01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:34,280 Speaker 1: he have to do consistently in the remaining eleven games 1524 01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:40,880 Speaker 1: to show he's the franchise I say, win? Yeah, I 1525 01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:44,719 Speaker 1: mean that's a dumb that's a dumb answer. Well, thanks 1526 01:23:44,800 --> 01:23:46,920 Speaker 1: a game. That's part of it. You have to show 1527 01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:48,519 Speaker 1: that you can win games. You have to show that 1528 01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:51,880 Speaker 1: you're progressing and improving, and that the skill set you 1529 01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:55,639 Speaker 1: have um are greater than any deficiency that we know 1530 01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:57,880 Speaker 1: about arm strength and everything else. So you have two 1531 01:23:58,040 --> 01:24:00,800 Speaker 1: great such a get I'm so good at one of 1532 01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:02,800 Speaker 1: those other skill sets. And I'll go back to the 1533 01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:05,640 Speaker 1: question about the off season. I could argue that the 1534 01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:09,160 Speaker 1: mistake was is not making a move to get Justin 1535 01:24:09,200 --> 01:24:11,280 Speaker 1: Herbert in the first round, if even if you have 1536 01:24:11,360 --> 01:24:14,120 Speaker 1: to trade up, because I mean, I'm of the opinion, 1537 01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:16,640 Speaker 1: until you know you have a franchise quarterback, I think 1538 01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:17,760 Speaker 1: you have to go get one. You have to go 1539 01:24:17,880 --> 01:24:20,639 Speaker 1: find one. And so you could argue that was a mistake. 1540 01:24:21,240 --> 01:24:25,680 Speaker 1: Um uh. And but as far as minshew and what 1541 01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:27,600 Speaker 1: you know you have to see, I think you have 1542 01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:30,240 Speaker 1: to see progress. I think you've seeing better in the pocket. 1543 01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:32,599 Speaker 1: I see you have to see him starting participating better, 1544 01:24:32,920 --> 01:24:35,240 Speaker 1: making those throws down the field, pressing the ball down 1545 01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:38,760 Speaker 1: the field into the tight windows with accuracy, um and 1546 01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:42,120 Speaker 1: being consistent in it um to a point that it 1547 01:24:42,240 --> 01:24:45,519 Speaker 1: overcomes any limitations that you know he has. As far 1548 01:24:45,560 --> 01:24:47,960 Speaker 1: as our arm strength, here's what he needs to do. 1549 01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:51,880 Speaker 1: Get the doctors to give him stake gluten. Here we 1550 01:24:51,960 --> 01:24:57,760 Speaker 1: go and get that arm on there and then you'll 1551 01:24:57,800 --> 01:25:00,360 Speaker 1: buy that you'd have a really good quarterback. Well by 1552 01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:03,320 Speaker 1: you saying that, Pete, you don't think there's anything he 1553 01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:05,960 Speaker 1: can do that you believe that there's nothing he can 1554 01:25:05,960 --> 01:25:08,320 Speaker 1: do to be proved to you that he is the 1555 01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:17,400 Speaker 1: franchise quarterback. No stronger I would disagree with that, And 1556 01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:21,439 Speaker 1: I think winning's part of it. Yeah, Pete winning winning 1557 01:25:21,439 --> 01:25:25,320 Speaker 1: what winning three games? Is that part of it? No? No, no, no, 1558 01:25:25,320 --> 01:25:27,559 Speaker 1: they have to find a way to win. I think 1559 01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:29,719 Speaker 1: you have to get you have to get to seven. 1560 01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:32,960 Speaker 1: By the way, somebody sending a comparison, I don't know 1561 01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:34,200 Speaker 1: if you were going to read it on the air, 1562 01:25:34,240 --> 01:25:39,599 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna jump the gun anyways, Case Keenum, Oh, 1563 01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:43,680 Speaker 1: he said, that's the ceiling is case Keenum? Do you 1564 01:25:43,720 --> 01:25:46,519 Speaker 1: agree with that? Pete? Case Keenum might have had a 1565 01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:50,640 Speaker 1: little stronger harm, to be honestly, but I see, I 1566 01:25:50,680 --> 01:25:52,920 Speaker 1: see what he's saying. I do see what he's saying. 1567 01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:56,560 Speaker 1: Case Keena moved around. But if that's the case that 1568 01:25:56,640 --> 01:26:00,920 Speaker 1: you have to get a quarterback, well, if you're the 1569 01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:03,960 Speaker 1: first pick, you're going to get a quarterback anyway. I 1570 01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:05,800 Speaker 1: don't care if you don't have the first pick. If 1571 01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:07,519 Speaker 1: you have a top ten pick, you have to go 1572 01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:09,600 Speaker 1: get a quarterback. You have to go find a way. 1573 01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:13,120 Speaker 1: I agree, I agree, I agree. Anyways, I think they do. 1574 01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:16,040 Speaker 1: And I came into the season with an open mind. 1575 01:26:16,640 --> 01:26:19,479 Speaker 1: I really did. I thought he I wanted to see 1576 01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:21,519 Speaker 1: him get better in the pocket. I wanted to see 1577 01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:23,800 Speaker 1: him driving. So I'm gonna ask you I'm gonna ask 1578 01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:26,160 Speaker 1: you a question, Pete. With what you saw last year 1579 01:26:26,240 --> 01:26:28,960 Speaker 1: from the team and from Gardner minshow and having two 1580 01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:33,679 Speaker 1: first rounders, would you traded up two picks in front 1581 01:26:33,720 --> 01:26:37,240 Speaker 1: of the Chargers to go get Herbert? Yes? Absolutely, you know, 1582 01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:40,519 Speaker 1: I have a herb. I think I liked Herbert coming 1583 01:26:40,520 --> 01:26:42,320 Speaker 1: out of college too. I thought he was I thought 1584 01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:45,200 Speaker 1: he had a lot of uh characteristics that you like, 1585 01:26:45,560 --> 01:26:48,559 Speaker 1: and um, I really liked them coming out. But they 1586 01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:52,439 Speaker 1: do remember the scuttle butt was his personality Wasn't you know? 1587 01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:55,320 Speaker 1: I didn't buy any of it. If I tell you what. 1588 01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:59,840 Speaker 1: They love him in Los Angeles. Yeah, I know, and 1589 01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:04,200 Speaker 1: players love him. That's the biggest compliment, Right, He's got it. 1590 01:27:04,479 --> 01:27:07,240 Speaker 1: Believe me, he's got it. You know when you see it, 1591 01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:10,840 Speaker 1: you know when you see it. Yeah, I mean that's 1592 01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:13,280 Speaker 1: interesting because I mean, and I'm not gonna sit here 1593 01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:15,000 Speaker 1: and say I would have been that strong where I'd 1594 01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:17,559 Speaker 1: have traded two picks up to go get him. Um, 1595 01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:22,640 Speaker 1: but I in hindsight, in hindsight, you do it. I 1596 01:27:22,720 --> 01:27:24,920 Speaker 1: do it right right this second. But I'm not gonna 1597 01:27:25,000 --> 01:27:27,160 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be that I liked them coming out 1598 01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:33,120 Speaker 1: a lot. Um but I you know, I just I 1599 01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:36,120 Speaker 1: wasn't convinced. I was not convinced coming into the season. 1600 01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:38,439 Speaker 1: And we talked about this in the offseason JP and 1601 01:27:38,479 --> 01:27:42,320 Speaker 1: and on shows. Um the Gardener was the man not 1602 01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:44,800 Speaker 1: saying he but I also wasn't convinced. He wasn't. And 1603 01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:47,719 Speaker 1: when you are in a position of indecision with your quarterback, 1604 01:27:47,760 --> 01:27:49,519 Speaker 1: then I think you gotta go find guys to compete 1605 01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:52,080 Speaker 1: with them. So you could have You could have gone 1606 01:27:52,160 --> 01:27:55,640 Speaker 1: up to four because the Giants wanted to tackle, and 1607 01:27:55,840 --> 01:27:57,760 Speaker 1: there were four of them in that draft, And if 1608 01:27:57,760 --> 01:27:59,840 Speaker 1: they had traded back to nine, they still could have 1609 01:27:59,840 --> 01:28:02,960 Speaker 1: got wills Are Beckton rather than take Thomas, So you 1610 01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:05,479 Speaker 1: could have gone to nine into four and got him 1611 01:28:05,520 --> 01:28:08,120 Speaker 1: if you wanted them. You know how I feel about Herbert, 1612 01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:10,600 Speaker 1: I I'm with you. I'm I think the kid is 1613 01:28:10,600 --> 01:28:13,040 Speaker 1: going to be if I think he's gonna be. He 1614 01:28:13,240 --> 01:28:15,599 Speaker 1: is the guy that picked the partner draft, coming in 1615 01:28:15,880 --> 01:28:19,559 Speaker 1: by everybody for his accuracy, much like Josh Allen was. 1616 01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:21,360 Speaker 1: But you can look at him and you say, you 1617 01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:23,240 Speaker 1: know what, there's a lot to work with their He's 1618 01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:27,559 Speaker 1: gonna be a good player. But they didn't. So this 1619 01:28:27,640 --> 01:28:30,519 Speaker 1: is what this is? What it is? Yeah, yeah, but 1620 01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:32,000 Speaker 1: and that's why I'm not going to give up Home 1621 01:28:32,040 --> 01:28:35,160 Speaker 1: Gardner yet I'm not in the same campus beat. I 1622 01:28:35,200 --> 01:28:36,920 Speaker 1: think there is stuff he can do to prove to 1623 01:28:36,960 --> 01:28:39,240 Speaker 1: me at least that he is the future of this franchise. 1624 01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:41,760 Speaker 1: But but Tony, Okay, people will say, well, what if 1625 01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:43,880 Speaker 1: he was in Jacksonville's offense, would he have the same 1626 01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:46,280 Speaker 1: success he's had? The charges of it. The Chargers don't 1627 01:28:46,280 --> 01:28:48,639 Speaker 1: have a ton of talent on offense. Well, actually offensive, 1628 01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:53,360 Speaker 1: the offensive line is better for the Jaguars rather receiving. 1629 01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:57,719 Speaker 1: The receiving corps a little bit better for the Williams 1630 01:28:57,720 --> 01:28:59,439 Speaker 1: has a been and and so is the tight ends 1631 01:28:59,439 --> 01:29:01,160 Speaker 1: really good too? On her Henry? Yeah, so they're a 1632 01:29:01,160 --> 01:29:03,439 Speaker 1: little Mike Williams hasn't been on the field. He's been 1633 01:29:03,439 --> 01:29:05,599 Speaker 1: throwing the guy that touched out as his last week 1634 01:29:05,640 --> 01:29:09,400 Speaker 1: and came the guys off the street. All right. Our 1635 01:29:09,439 --> 01:29:12,880 Speaker 1: next question comes from at Brandon Bush eight won seven, Pete, 1636 01:29:12,920 --> 01:29:15,439 Speaker 1: I need your take on this. Oh boy, I can't wait. 1637 01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:18,800 Speaker 1: Is it too early to admit the showburn experiment is 1638 01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:21,519 Speaker 1: a bust? I know Tony's response will be no, because 1639 01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:24,680 Speaker 1: he's been able to help Miles Shack moved to his 1640 01:29:24,720 --> 01:29:27,640 Speaker 1: correct position, but I feel nine of the middle linebackers 1641 01:29:27,640 --> 01:29:35,960 Speaker 1: could have done that. Uh. To answer your question, yes, okay, 1642 01:29:36,000 --> 01:29:39,400 Speaker 1: wait time out, time explain why he's a bust. I 1643 01:29:39,439 --> 01:29:42,680 Speaker 1: don't know. He's not a bus Is he worth the 1644 01:29:42,720 --> 01:29:44,960 Speaker 1: money they spent on that? Okay, that's fair, that's a 1645 01:29:44,960 --> 01:29:48,160 Speaker 1: fair quint. That's fair. And the answer to my answer 1646 01:29:48,200 --> 01:29:52,000 Speaker 1: would be no, I have not seen anything that and 1647 01:29:52,080 --> 01:29:54,640 Speaker 1: I think JP correct me if I'm wrong. Show is 1648 01:29:54,640 --> 01:29:56,519 Speaker 1: one of the higher paid middle linebackers in the league. 1649 01:29:56,560 --> 01:30:01,599 Speaker 1: Is that correct? I would say probably yes, Okay, And 1650 01:30:01,640 --> 01:30:03,320 Speaker 1: I don't know. And I don't think he's one of 1651 01:30:03,400 --> 01:30:06,080 Speaker 1: the more impactful middle linebackers in the NFL. I don't 1652 01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:08,880 Speaker 1: think he makes huge mistakes. Um. I think he's in 1653 01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:11,439 Speaker 1: the right place for the most part. But I have 1654 01:30:11,520 --> 01:30:15,559 Speaker 1: not seen him make impact plays per se. Uh. Now, 1655 01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:20,160 Speaker 1: we're only five games in. It's very early. Um. Right now, 1656 01:30:20,200 --> 01:30:23,479 Speaker 1: I'd qualify him as a solid player, but it's like 1657 01:30:23,560 --> 01:30:26,160 Speaker 1: it faired us to him. The guys in front of 1658 01:30:26,200 --> 01:30:28,720 Speaker 1: him aren't occupying a lot of bodies either. They're not 1659 01:30:28,760 --> 01:30:30,360 Speaker 1: that you know what I mean. They're not great up 1660 01:30:30,360 --> 01:30:34,320 Speaker 1: front so it is one of those situations where it 1661 01:30:34,479 --> 01:30:38,800 Speaker 1: might be nice to see him evaluated in a situation 1662 01:30:38,840 --> 01:30:41,160 Speaker 1: where he has a lot more help around them. So 1663 01:30:41,439 --> 01:30:44,400 Speaker 1: I'm I will give him, I will give him that 1664 01:30:44,479 --> 01:30:48,280 Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt. But he's not a bus. That's 1665 01:30:48,720 --> 01:30:51,840 Speaker 1: I mean, he's not a bus. Okay, he's the guys 1666 01:30:51,880 --> 01:30:54,799 Speaker 1: that are making more than him right now, right inside 1667 01:30:54,800 --> 01:30:59,479 Speaker 1: linebackers mostly Jalen Smith, who hasn't played close to that 1668 01:30:59,560 --> 01:31:04,679 Speaker 1: country craft, Zach Cunningham he's a stud now he's good. 1669 01:31:05,040 --> 01:31:13,240 Speaker 1: Miles Jack, he's a stud, Dion Jones, Bobby Wagner, he's 1670 01:31:13,520 --> 01:31:17,160 Speaker 1: do you see him? He is so good on Alexander. 1671 01:31:18,240 --> 01:31:24,559 Speaker 1: I'm good too, So then showbur this year. Yeah he 1672 01:31:24,640 --> 01:31:27,360 Speaker 1: was hurt last year. But but I mean there are 1673 01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:30,200 Speaker 1: guys you could go get too. I mean you, I 1674 01:31:30,240 --> 01:31:32,800 Speaker 1: am always looking for a young bumper to go run 1675 01:31:32,800 --> 01:31:34,600 Speaker 1: and chase. That's what I'm looking for. I would I 1676 01:31:35,120 --> 01:31:38,720 Speaker 1: try and find a guy like that, you know what 1677 01:31:38,800 --> 01:31:43,680 Speaker 1: I mean? Like? Okay, can can Jack Porterman play at all? 1678 01:31:43,720 --> 01:31:47,280 Speaker 1: Do you know you drafted him? I think he's a 1679 01:31:47,600 --> 01:31:52,120 Speaker 1: inside middle guy. I don't think he's gonna be out 1680 01:31:52,120 --> 01:31:55,160 Speaker 1: there at Niggleby No. But he would he could play 1681 01:31:55,200 --> 01:31:57,599 Speaker 1: on first a second down, dude, because I don't know. 1682 01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:01,400 Speaker 1: I know, but still need a nickel and Schoeber can 1683 01:32:01,400 --> 01:32:04,720 Speaker 1: play nickel. I don't think he's chasing guys. Hey, you 1684 01:32:04,760 --> 01:32:06,880 Speaker 1: don't paying nickel that kind of money, don't you know? 1685 01:32:06,920 --> 01:32:09,559 Speaker 1: He know you do? You pay an every down linebacker 1686 01:32:09,640 --> 01:32:11,760 Speaker 1: that kind of money. But is he good enough? And 1687 01:32:11,960 --> 01:32:14,360 Speaker 1: as a thumper, that's the question. Is he more of 1688 01:32:14,360 --> 01:32:17,400 Speaker 1: a nickel on linebacker? I think you can thump. I 1689 01:32:17,400 --> 01:32:19,519 Speaker 1: think he's that. I don't. I just don't know how 1690 01:32:19,560 --> 01:32:25,280 Speaker 1: he can run, do you humper? I wouldn't watch him. 1691 01:32:25,320 --> 01:32:29,920 Speaker 1: I wouldn't even Cleveland. I would have never qualified like running. 1692 01:32:30,760 --> 01:32:34,240 Speaker 1: He's a sideline to sideline chase. He's a running chase gun. 1693 01:32:34,479 --> 01:32:40,040 Speaker 1: I thought you were talking about quarterman. I'm sorry, ter right, 1694 01:32:40,080 --> 01:32:42,439 Speaker 1: he's That's what I was talking about. Yeah, No, showers, 1695 01:32:42,479 --> 01:32:46,519 Speaker 1: not out of curiosity where the Schobert ranking PF grades, 1696 01:32:46,600 --> 01:32:49,600 Speaker 1: Not that this is dangerous territory for me because I 1697 01:32:49,680 --> 01:32:54,040 Speaker 1: might lose it. You're not gonna lose it. I'll find 1698 01:32:54,120 --> 01:32:57,240 Speaker 1: it though. Alright, next question. Next, we got time for 1699 01:32:57,280 --> 01:33:00,719 Speaker 1: two more. Let's go to social number four see Scott 1700 01:33:00,720 --> 01:33:02,720 Speaker 1: oh six oh two. What is the likelihood with the 1701 01:33:02,720 --> 01:33:05,840 Speaker 1: trade deadline approaching and we try and trade to get 1702 01:33:05,840 --> 01:33:08,360 Speaker 1: more draft picks? For example, D D. Westbrook isn't active, 1703 01:33:08,360 --> 01:33:09,880 Speaker 1: but he could be used by a team looking for 1704 01:33:09,920 --> 01:33:13,080 Speaker 1: more wide receiver. Then yeah, but you're not gonna get 1705 01:33:13,080 --> 01:33:15,240 Speaker 1: any real trade value for d D. Westbrook. What do 1706 01:33:15,280 --> 01:33:16,960 Speaker 1: you think you gonna get back at six seventh rounder? 1707 01:33:16,960 --> 01:33:21,719 Speaker 1: Why would you do that? I mean, unless someone's willing 1708 01:33:21,760 --> 01:33:23,280 Speaker 1: to give you a third or fourth rounder, I'm not 1709 01:33:23,320 --> 01:33:26,120 Speaker 1: sure why you trade d D. He adds depth, He 1710 01:33:26,240 --> 01:33:28,080 Speaker 1: doesn't cost you anything. I mean, I hate it for 1711 01:33:28,160 --> 01:33:29,439 Speaker 1: d D that he has to sit on the bench, 1712 01:33:29,520 --> 01:33:33,200 Speaker 1: But I'm not sure six or seventh rounder is gonna forced. 1713 01:33:33,240 --> 01:33:36,479 Speaker 1: Media real excited about moving the guy that somebody gets 1714 01:33:36,760 --> 01:33:39,160 Speaker 1: in case somebody gets hurt. Yeah, I keep it. By 1715 01:33:39,200 --> 01:33:44,240 Speaker 1: the way, Shobert is seven ranked uh inside linebacker. So 1716 01:33:44,320 --> 01:33:47,320 Speaker 1: there's sixty four if you count two for each team. 1717 01:33:47,400 --> 01:33:51,360 Speaker 1: So that's the bottom half. Okay, let's put it by comparison. 1718 01:33:51,760 --> 01:33:54,280 Speaker 1: Miles Jack is number one, as great as ninety one, 1719 01:33:55,040 --> 01:34:00,679 Speaker 1: Showbird is forty seven and is great is the nine 1720 01:34:00,800 --> 01:34:06,559 Speaker 1: number one? Yeah, he's been playing so well, but but 1721 01:34:07,479 --> 01:34:11,240 Speaker 1: his grade was what I say is grade was Showbert's 1722 01:34:11,240 --> 01:34:21,480 Speaker 1: grade is forty seven point eight. That's a significant difference, 1723 01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:26,880 Speaker 1: how about that? And and if you want to rank 1724 01:34:26,920 --> 01:34:33,679 Speaker 1: and run defenses by far as worse, let's go along 1725 01:34:33,960 --> 01:34:36,760 Speaker 1: one more question social question all night from at sick 1726 01:34:36,840 --> 01:34:41,160 Speaker 1: with it? Have we hit rock bottom yet? And if not, 1727 01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:45,000 Speaker 1: what is the bottom? Well, as they always say, it 1728 01:34:45,080 --> 01:34:50,040 Speaker 1: could always be worse, right, guys, Well, I think this 1729 01:34:50,120 --> 01:34:52,040 Speaker 1: is a question not just this year. I think this 1730 01:34:52,120 --> 01:34:55,280 Speaker 1: is a feeling over the last you know, outside of seventeen, 1731 01:34:55,280 --> 01:34:58,200 Speaker 1: in the last decade is probably this comment. I mean, 1732 01:34:58,240 --> 01:35:03,720 Speaker 1: because it's been you know, you haven't been a good 1733 01:35:03,720 --> 01:35:06,400 Speaker 1: football team for a long time outside out of the 1734 01:35:06,439 --> 01:35:08,400 Speaker 1: side of the one year in seventeen, which was a 1735 01:35:08,439 --> 01:35:10,280 Speaker 1: lot of fun and they got Today it's the championship, 1736 01:35:10,320 --> 01:35:12,200 Speaker 1: almost to the super Bowl, And so I think the 1737 01:35:12,200 --> 01:35:14,720 Speaker 1: frustration of the fan base and everyone's and I get it. 1738 01:35:14,760 --> 01:35:16,840 Speaker 1: I mean it's hard to argue, you know, you start 1739 01:35:16,880 --> 01:35:19,400 Speaker 1: one in four and you lose, really you lost three 1740 01:35:19,439 --> 01:35:23,439 Speaker 1: bad games in a row, um, And I think there's 1741 01:35:23,439 --> 01:35:26,200 Speaker 1: a lot of despair and discouragement out there in uh 1742 01:35:26,320 --> 01:35:34,479 Speaker 1: in JAG's fan world. Here's how low, here's the lowest. 1743 01:35:34,960 --> 01:35:37,120 Speaker 1: This is the lowest. This is the lowest. That to go. 1744 01:35:37,960 --> 01:35:40,040 Speaker 1: You go one in fifteen and you don't get the 1745 01:35:40,080 --> 01:35:45,760 Speaker 1: first pick. That's as low as it can go. Yeah, 1746 01:35:45,800 --> 01:35:51,800 Speaker 1: it'd be pretty bad. I mean he's not wrong because 1747 01:35:51,840 --> 01:35:55,960 Speaker 1: it depresses me thinking about it. That's as bad as 1748 01:35:56,000 --> 01:35:58,640 Speaker 1: it gets. They can't go any lower than that. And 1749 01:35:58,640 --> 01:36:01,320 Speaker 1: remember the whole idea. Oh that rams pick might be 1750 01:36:01,360 --> 01:36:08,840 Speaker 1: pretty good too. It might have another there four and one. Great. 1751 01:36:08,960 --> 01:36:12,080 Speaker 1: Thanks feet for cheering us up. Appreciate that. 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After the Jaguars loss in Houston yesterday, fourth 1813 01:40:02,320 --> 01:40:05,920 Speaker 1: consecutive losing result for the Jags are now one and four, 1814 01:40:06,120 --> 01:40:09,680 Speaker 1: and we'll go through the f C South standings and 1815 01:40:09,720 --> 01:40:16,760 Speaker 1: the Power rankings. Come This should be radio. Let's start 1816 01:40:16,800 --> 01:40:18,840 Speaker 1: around the SEC South, of course. The Texans beat the 1817 01:40:18,920 --> 01:40:22,960 Speaker 1: Jags for their first win of the season yesterday, the 1818 01:40:23,080 --> 01:40:25,479 Speaker 1: third consecutive team that has beaten the Jags for their 1819 01:40:25,520 --> 01:40:28,160 Speaker 1: first win of the season. The Indianapolis Colts lost to 1820 01:40:28,200 --> 01:40:32,320 Speaker 1: the Browns, and the Browns might actually be good. And 1821 01:40:32,400 --> 01:40:34,160 Speaker 1: what four one for the first time since it's a 1822 01:40:34,320 --> 01:40:37,240 Speaker 1: ninety four, since Bill Belichick was there and Nick Saban 1823 01:40:37,360 --> 01:40:40,799 Speaker 1: was an assistant, And the Titans are playing football tomorrow 1824 01:40:40,880 --> 01:40:44,000 Speaker 1: night for the first time in two weeks. They'll be 1825 01:40:44,000 --> 01:40:48,040 Speaker 1: playing after all those positive tests in the building. They're 1826 01:40:48,080 --> 01:40:50,360 Speaker 1: playing the Bills. Josh Allen four and oh the bill 1827 01:40:50,479 --> 01:40:53,680 Speaker 1: is hot to start? Who you got in that game Tuesday? 1828 01:40:53,720 --> 01:40:57,240 Speaker 1: First of all for the Tennessee Titan I'm taking the Bills. 1829 01:40:57,280 --> 01:40:59,960 Speaker 1: I think think the Titans defense is awful. I think 1830 01:41:00,200 --> 01:41:02,200 Speaker 1: thirty points in the last two games. They're not good 1831 01:41:02,240 --> 01:41:05,240 Speaker 1: on defense. I think Josh Allen's gonna light them up. 1832 01:41:05,560 --> 01:41:08,719 Speaker 1: And how much have they practiced? Tony as a player, 1833 01:41:09,120 --> 01:41:11,120 Speaker 1: If you don't get a couple of practices, and is 1834 01:41:11,160 --> 01:41:15,280 Speaker 1: that bad, well, I think you're a little bit rusty. 1835 01:41:15,320 --> 01:41:16,920 Speaker 1: I mean, you can put the pads on for the 1836 01:41:16,960 --> 01:41:19,000 Speaker 1: first time. I'll tell you what, You'll be fresh to 1837 01:41:19,120 --> 01:41:22,320 Speaker 1: be running around. That's what I mean. Is it is 1838 01:41:22,360 --> 01:41:25,320 Speaker 1: it a good thing or is it a bad thing? Um, 1839 01:41:25,439 --> 01:41:28,200 Speaker 1: I can't even comprehend that being out that long, that's 1840 01:41:28,200 --> 01:41:32,040 Speaker 1: two weeks be very little activity all virtual. I mean, 1841 01:41:32,080 --> 01:41:35,280 Speaker 1: have they put the pads on one time in two weeks? Yeah, 1842 01:41:35,360 --> 01:41:37,280 Speaker 1: I think. I think it's um. I think it's a 1843 01:41:37,280 --> 01:41:39,719 Speaker 1: big I think it's a disadvantage as much as players 1844 01:41:39,720 --> 01:41:41,519 Speaker 1: don't like the practice because they want to play games 1845 01:41:41,520 --> 01:41:46,000 Speaker 1: only I do think, you know, practice doesn't matter, and uh, 1846 01:41:46,120 --> 01:41:49,880 Speaker 1: I think they're at a disadvantage. And I think, yeah, 1847 01:41:50,200 --> 01:41:52,720 Speaker 1: I think the Bills have advantaged even I think the 1848 01:41:52,720 --> 01:41:54,559 Speaker 1: Bills are really good. By the way, the Bills get 1849 01:41:54,600 --> 01:41:58,639 Speaker 1: caught looking ahead to the Chiefs next week. No think. 1850 01:41:59,080 --> 01:42:02,200 Speaker 1: I think Sean mcdermaan a really good coach to me too. 1851 01:42:02,439 --> 01:42:05,200 Speaker 1: So of course, now that we mentioned the Browns over 1852 01:42:05,200 --> 01:42:08,120 Speaker 1: the Colts, Peter, the Brown's good. All of a sudden, 1853 01:42:08,760 --> 01:42:10,880 Speaker 1: they want it. They leave the league and running. They're 1854 01:42:10,880 --> 01:42:13,439 Speaker 1: the leading and what they've done is they made it 1855 01:42:13,520 --> 01:42:16,360 Speaker 1: so it makes easy throws for Baker Mayfield when he 1856 01:42:16,439 --> 01:42:19,000 Speaker 1: is in the pocket, though he's threw two terrible interceptions 1857 01:42:19,320 --> 01:42:21,960 Speaker 1: and Rivers played awful yesterday. Did you see how to 1858 01:42:22,000 --> 01:42:28,040 Speaker 1: pick six with the rounds? Oh? Yeah, Ronnie Harrison, Yeah, 1859 01:42:29,280 --> 01:42:31,120 Speaker 1: the Browns do really well. Bet they can rush the 1860 01:42:31,120 --> 01:42:36,000 Speaker 1: pastor Myles garrettson piece. Yeah, they do again. I think Kevin. 1861 01:42:36,000 --> 01:42:38,760 Speaker 1: I I met Kevin Stefansky a couple of years ago, 1862 01:42:38,760 --> 01:42:40,479 Speaker 1: and I've gotten to know him a little bit. He 1863 01:42:40,640 --> 01:42:45,559 Speaker 1: is exactly what they needed in that organization. He's a 1864 01:42:45,560 --> 01:42:48,519 Speaker 1: Philly guy. He's you know, he knows, he's got a 1865 01:42:48,520 --> 01:42:51,120 Speaker 1: little bit of an attitude, but he's also smart. Right. 1866 01:42:51,400 --> 01:42:52,840 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be a hell of a coach. 1867 01:42:52,960 --> 01:42:55,800 Speaker 1: I really do. I think they're on the right movement, 1868 01:42:55,800 --> 01:42:57,920 Speaker 1: in the right direction. They're still not great on defense, 1869 01:42:57,960 --> 01:42:59,680 Speaker 1: even though they rushed the pastor they still have some 1870 01:42:59,720 --> 01:43:03,719 Speaker 1: issues on defense. Philip Rivers is not very good. Whoa 1871 01:43:04,400 --> 01:43:06,920 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, think about it. They've lost two games 1872 01:43:06,920 --> 01:43:08,880 Speaker 1: and he cost them both of them. Yeah, I think 1873 01:43:08,920 --> 01:43:12,479 Speaker 1: cause I mean, you see, he's the issue there right 1874 01:43:12,479 --> 01:43:16,920 Speaker 1: now because they're playing good defense, good weapons. They don't 1875 01:43:16,920 --> 01:43:19,400 Speaker 1: have a new weapons outside either. T Y Hilton can't 1876 01:43:19,400 --> 01:43:22,280 Speaker 1: get going and so where else is he going with it? 1877 01:43:22,640 --> 01:43:24,960 Speaker 1: The tight end Moley Cox has had some good games, 1878 01:43:25,000 --> 01:43:28,639 Speaker 1: but where else what do they have? And no speed? Really, 1879 01:43:29,400 --> 01:43:31,120 Speaker 1: so you don't think he's the issue right now? No, 1880 01:43:31,240 --> 01:43:33,080 Speaker 1: I don't think he's playing well at all. I think 1881 01:43:33,120 --> 01:43:39,920 Speaker 1: he's an issue, Yes, that's yeah. I know because you 1882 01:43:39,960 --> 01:43:44,439 Speaker 1: love him. So let's get to our power rankings going 1883 01:43:44,520 --> 01:43:48,240 Speaker 1: into week six. Actually with another game in week five 1884 01:43:48,280 --> 01:43:52,160 Speaker 1: remaining tomorrow night Tony get us started. Please AFC South 1885 01:43:52,160 --> 01:43:57,160 Speaker 1: Power rankings highly anticipated, painful listening to be a painful 1886 01:43:57,160 --> 01:44:00,240 Speaker 1: segment for me. Um, I'm going with Tennessee tie is 1887 01:44:00,320 --> 01:44:02,320 Speaker 1: number one. Even though I think the Bills are gonna 1888 01:44:02,360 --> 01:44:03,680 Speaker 1: be him, I still think they're the best team in 1889 01:44:03,680 --> 01:44:07,759 Speaker 1: the an SC South. Um the culture number two. Um, 1890 01:44:07,840 --> 01:44:10,040 Speaker 1: even though I think, I hate to say, because I 1891 01:44:10,040 --> 01:44:12,040 Speaker 1: looked really like Philip Rivers as well as a player, 1892 01:44:12,080 --> 01:44:17,000 Speaker 1: but he might be on the doorstep of being done. Um, 1893 01:44:17,080 --> 01:44:19,559 Speaker 1: because I think they have a really good defense. They 1894 01:44:19,560 --> 01:44:22,400 Speaker 1: can run the ball. Uh, this hurts right now where 1895 01:44:22,400 --> 01:44:24,479 Speaker 1: I'm about to say, but I can't deny it. The 1896 01:44:24,520 --> 01:44:27,000 Speaker 1: Texans won, The Texans are three, and the Jags are 1897 01:44:27,120 --> 01:44:31,439 Speaker 1: in the door there the doormat there last, I'll agree 1898 01:44:31,479 --> 01:44:35,160 Speaker 1: with across the board. I would if if the Colts 1899 01:44:35,200 --> 01:44:36,840 Speaker 1: had won, clearly they would have been the best team 1900 01:44:36,840 --> 01:44:39,160 Speaker 1: in the division. But the way that Rivers has played 1901 01:44:39,200 --> 01:44:41,400 Speaker 1: those two losses, come on, it lost to the Jaguars. 1902 01:44:41,479 --> 01:44:43,320 Speaker 1: You should have won that game. Through two was the 1903 01:44:43,360 --> 01:44:46,479 Speaker 1: two picks in that game and here two yesterday, he 1904 01:44:46,640 --> 01:44:49,479 Speaker 1: just he didn't look good. He doesn't look good. And 1905 01:44:49,560 --> 01:44:55,040 Speaker 1: so there's Pete Daily scored twenty points against the Jaguars. 1906 01:44:56,920 --> 01:44:59,960 Speaker 1: They're gonna bench him. Pete. Well, there's people are asking 1907 01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:02,680 Speaker 1: that question. They asked Frank Reich about it today and 1908 01:45:02,720 --> 01:45:07,200 Speaker 1: he said, no, yeah, would you mention him? Not yet? 1909 01:45:09,960 --> 01:45:12,280 Speaker 1: At least you gotta let him play it out from them. 1910 01:45:12,320 --> 01:45:18,840 Speaker 1: So let's ranked quarterbacks in the AFC the South. Danny 1911 01:45:18,920 --> 01:45:24,960 Speaker 1: Hill might be one. Watson too, uh minshun in rivers 1912 01:45:25,160 --> 01:45:27,599 Speaker 1: the way he's playing. I mean, that's what I'm saying. 1913 01:45:29,360 --> 01:45:31,880 Speaker 1: I think I might agree with you. But you know what, Tony, 1914 01:45:32,000 --> 01:45:35,720 Speaker 1: we're killing rivers up until the last week and we 1915 01:45:35,720 --> 01:45:37,800 Speaker 1: went and played to the Bears and they won. He 1916 01:45:37,880 --> 01:45:40,439 Speaker 1: was completing over seventies something present of his bars is 1917 01:45:41,080 --> 01:45:42,920 Speaker 1: but he's still is a hard time drying. He like 1918 01:45:43,000 --> 01:45:44,680 Speaker 1: he's another one, has a hard time driving it down 1919 01:45:44,720 --> 01:45:47,360 Speaker 1: the field. Yeah, because he's always been a guy that 1920 01:45:47,560 --> 01:45:50,000 Speaker 1: uses his lower body and torque and drive the ball. 1921 01:45:50,040 --> 01:45:52,639 Speaker 1: And I don't think he has any power anymore. Yeah, 1922 01:45:52,680 --> 01:45:57,880 Speaker 1: he's just getting old. He's done. Probably, Pete, what were 1923 01:45:57,880 --> 01:46:02,679 Speaker 1: your power rankings are the same as Tony's. Yes, exactly 1924 01:46:02,720 --> 01:46:07,599 Speaker 1: the same, exact. No controversy this week, Okay, I mean 1925 01:46:08,479 --> 01:46:10,280 Speaker 1: to get blown out. What if the Titans, Let's let's 1926 01:46:10,320 --> 01:46:12,240 Speaker 1: spin it forward. What if the Titans kept blown out? 1927 01:46:12,920 --> 01:46:16,080 Speaker 1: It's still I'm still picking the Titans over every teams out. Yeah, 1928 01:46:16,120 --> 01:46:19,559 Speaker 1: and they're not that good. They're not that good. It's 1929 01:46:19,560 --> 01:46:23,320 Speaker 1: a bad division, alright, So the a f C South 1930 01:46:23,360 --> 01:46:26,639 Speaker 1: Power rankings are in and they are negative. We're back 1931 01:46:26,680 --> 01:46:29,479 Speaker 1: in a moment, and we'll go around the National Football League, 1932 01:46:30,080 --> 01:46:33,640 Speaker 1: including Monday Night football. 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Pete in 1994 01:50:38,080 --> 01:50:42,800 Speaker 1: Atlanta after an oh and five start. Yeah, that's one 1995 01:50:42,840 --> 01:50:45,479 Speaker 1: of those situations where he came back last year. He's 1996 01:50:45,479 --> 01:50:48,160 Speaker 1: gonna get fired. Last year he rallied him and they said, Okay, 1997 01:50:48,160 --> 01:50:50,040 Speaker 1: we'll give me a shot to turn it around. And 1998 01:50:50,080 --> 01:50:52,360 Speaker 1: you go oh and five and blow double digit leads. 1999 01:50:52,840 --> 01:50:54,720 Speaker 1: I mean, they had to make a change, and it's 2000 01:50:54,760 --> 01:50:57,760 Speaker 1: not surprising. And as far as the meat off, you 2001 01:50:57,840 --> 01:51:01,080 Speaker 1: usually get two coaches and you're done. That's pretty simple 2002 01:51:01,120 --> 01:51:06,000 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Not surprising, Tony M. I hate because 2003 01:51:06,000 --> 01:51:08,519 Speaker 1: I like both those guys, and I really like Dan 2004 01:51:08,640 --> 01:51:10,599 Speaker 1: Quinn as a person, and you know, I think he's 2005 01:51:10,600 --> 01:51:12,800 Speaker 1: a good football coach, and it was time to make 2006 01:51:12,840 --> 01:51:15,000 Speaker 1: a change. I get it why I hated for him, 2007 01:51:15,040 --> 01:51:16,640 Speaker 1: And I really like Thomas de me Trump. I've had 2008 01:51:16,640 --> 01:51:18,280 Speaker 1: a lot of good conversations with them, and if you 2009 01:51:18,320 --> 01:51:20,719 Speaker 1: look at they they're probably one of the greatest runs 2010 01:51:20,720 --> 01:51:22,760 Speaker 1: in the history of the franchise under him, um for 2011 01:51:22,800 --> 01:51:25,519 Speaker 1: a little up until the last three years. So I 2012 01:51:25,600 --> 01:51:27,799 Speaker 1: hate it for both those guys, but it is the NFL, 2013 01:51:27,800 --> 01:51:31,280 Speaker 1: and this is how this business works. They never really 2014 01:51:31,320 --> 01:51:34,439 Speaker 1: recovered from that Super Bowl loss when they had the 2015 01:51:34,479 --> 01:51:38,000 Speaker 1: big lead, and they were never the same organization really 2016 01:51:38,080 --> 01:51:40,439 Speaker 1: after that point. Obviously, they didn't really recover from that. 2017 01:51:40,479 --> 01:51:45,719 Speaker 1: The Ravens over the Bengals three dominant seven sacks of Borrow. 2018 01:51:46,520 --> 01:51:50,840 Speaker 1: The Ravens are pretty good here Pete obviously well, but 2019 01:51:51,000 --> 01:51:53,400 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson is not playing like he did a year 2020 01:51:53,479 --> 01:51:57,200 Speaker 1: ago inaccurate. Yeah, he's got her shooting the ball over 2021 01:51:57,240 --> 01:51:59,680 Speaker 1: the place. It's just not good right now. And he's 2022 01:51:59,720 --> 01:52:02,160 Speaker 1: kind of pick up his game now. He was dinged 2023 01:52:02,160 --> 01:52:03,920 Speaker 1: a little bit and didn't practice last week, so he 2024 01:52:03,960 --> 01:52:06,400 Speaker 1: didn't run as much. But you know how I feel, Tony. 2025 01:52:06,520 --> 01:52:09,080 Speaker 1: I think, once you have to be able to throw 2026 01:52:09,160 --> 01:52:11,640 Speaker 1: from the pocket, because once the ability to run the 2027 01:52:11,680 --> 01:52:14,719 Speaker 1: way he's run so far goes away and teams defend 2028 01:52:14,760 --> 01:52:17,800 Speaker 1: them differently. And it's never. You don't get faster as 2029 01:52:17,800 --> 01:52:20,080 Speaker 1: you get older. We know, I believe me. I can 2030 01:52:20,120 --> 01:52:22,439 Speaker 1: speak from experience, and I know old man to still 2031 01:52:22,520 --> 01:52:25,080 Speaker 1: he can speak from experience as well. You don't get older, 2032 01:52:25,200 --> 01:52:27,160 Speaker 1: you you don't get faster to get older. So eventually 2033 01:52:27,400 --> 01:52:29,880 Speaker 1: he's got to start playing inside that pocket and making 2034 01:52:29,960 --> 01:52:33,200 Speaker 1: frozen there. And uh, he's not playing that well right now. 2035 01:52:33,680 --> 01:52:36,120 Speaker 1: And I thought he made progress last year and that 2036 01:52:36,640 --> 01:52:39,720 Speaker 1: and um even earlier here I thought. But then all 2037 01:52:39,720 --> 01:52:42,360 Speaker 1: of a sudden, that Thursday night game I did, he 2038 01:52:42,400 --> 01:52:44,840 Speaker 1: was all over the place inaccurate, didn't play well. I didn't, 2039 01:52:44,880 --> 01:52:48,200 Speaker 1: and you know, and then the Kansas City game, I'm 2040 01:52:48,200 --> 01:52:50,240 Speaker 1: sorry that Thursday, the Monday night game against Kansas City. 2041 01:52:50,240 --> 01:52:52,960 Speaker 1: He just did not man, he was just so inaccurate. 2042 01:52:53,040 --> 01:52:55,439 Speaker 1: And yeah, and he hasn't played great the last two weeks. 2043 01:52:55,439 --> 01:52:57,720 Speaker 1: They've won football games because they have some talent and 2044 01:52:57,760 --> 01:53:00,200 Speaker 1: he can still beat with his legs because he is 2045 01:53:00,280 --> 01:53:03,439 Speaker 1: so athletic. But he's gonna play better. I think he will. 2046 01:53:03,479 --> 01:53:07,040 Speaker 1: He's a competitive defense. Won that game yesterday. They got 2047 01:53:07,160 --> 01:53:11,280 Speaker 1: all of Joe Burrow. We can't they can't pretend. I know, 2048 01:53:12,800 --> 01:53:16,760 Speaker 1: well they protected against one team. Let's move along. The 2049 01:53:16,840 --> 01:53:20,080 Speaker 1: Raiders over the Chiefs forty to thirty two. And well, 2050 01:53:20,080 --> 01:53:22,240 Speaker 1: they called it. They said, in order for this to 2051 01:53:22,280 --> 01:53:25,080 Speaker 1: be a rivalry, the Raiders said they gotta win some 2052 01:53:25,120 --> 01:53:26,800 Speaker 1: of these games against the Chiefs. They would out and 2053 01:53:26,800 --> 01:53:28,680 Speaker 1: did it. Derek Carr had our car had a nice 2054 01:53:28,720 --> 01:53:31,439 Speaker 1: game yesterday. He did have a nice game and that 2055 01:53:31,880 --> 01:53:34,760 Speaker 1: A couple of things about that game. One Antonio will 2056 01:53:34,800 --> 01:53:37,559 Speaker 1: know this. The Chiefs play offensive line is not playing 2057 01:53:37,680 --> 01:53:40,880 Speaker 1: very well. There, you know, right right. Tackle Mitchell Schwartz 2058 01:53:40,920 --> 01:53:42,800 Speaker 1: played great last year. He's not playing very well. The 2059 01:53:42,840 --> 01:53:44,960 Speaker 1: rest of the line's not playing well. He's taking too 2060 01:53:45,000 --> 01:53:47,639 Speaker 1: many shots and I think teams are starting to make 2061 01:53:47,720 --> 01:53:51,280 Speaker 1: him like Gus Bradley always does make him be patient, 2062 01:53:51,760 --> 01:53:54,200 Speaker 1: and he doesn't like it. He doesn't like it at all. 2063 01:53:54,280 --> 01:53:56,639 Speaker 1: And they did a really good job the Raiders. They 2064 01:53:56,640 --> 01:53:58,720 Speaker 1: spied him the whole game with RD and key. They 2065 01:53:58,720 --> 01:54:01,160 Speaker 1: did a lot of really creative things, and uh, I 2066 01:54:01,200 --> 01:54:03,240 Speaker 1: think it's they got to pick it up. And they 2067 01:54:03,240 --> 01:54:07,360 Speaker 1: played the Bills next week the Chiefs, and they lost 2068 01:54:07,400 --> 01:54:09,559 Speaker 1: the left tackle assembly he was card off the field, 2069 01:54:09,600 --> 01:54:15,240 Speaker 1: I mean guard injury, the guard left guard to torn 2070 01:54:15,320 --> 01:54:21,439 Speaker 1: ptellent attendance in both knees. Yes, and the same play. Yes, 2071 01:54:22,160 --> 01:54:25,880 Speaker 1: how does that happen? Happened a wide receiver named Wendell 2072 01:54:25,960 --> 01:54:28,439 Speaker 1: Davis years ago, and it happens to Bronco player once 2073 01:54:28,479 --> 01:54:35,360 Speaker 1: as well. That it's it's weird. He's done. Agreed with 2074 01:54:35,400 --> 01:54:39,320 Speaker 1: everything you said, Pete. Cardinals over the Jets thirty to ten. 2075 01:54:39,400 --> 01:54:42,480 Speaker 1: The Jets are awful. The Steelers over the Eagles thirty 2076 01:54:42,520 --> 01:54:45,760 Speaker 1: eight twenty nine, and not too far down the road, 2077 01:54:45,800 --> 01:54:52,400 Speaker 1: the Jags get the Steelers. Chase Claypool stealers, fight receivers everywhere. 2078 01:54:53,120 --> 01:54:57,360 Speaker 1: Every single year, they've been looking at Antonio Brown, Emmanuel Sanders, 2079 01:54:58,040 --> 01:55:00,280 Speaker 1: all these guys. They've always find him in the hurting. 2080 01:55:00,320 --> 01:55:05,480 Speaker 1: This second round and he hasn't done anything this year. 2081 01:55:05,560 --> 01:55:08,960 Speaker 1: Deante Johnson, who didn't play, got hurt yesterday. There there, 2082 01:55:09,080 --> 01:55:12,040 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. Get them early, because they're gonna 2083 01:55:12,040 --> 01:55:13,560 Speaker 1: be good late in the season when that offense all 2084 01:55:13,560 --> 01:55:15,720 Speaker 1: gets together and plays the entire year. They play the Browns, 2085 01:55:16,120 --> 01:55:18,440 Speaker 1: that's an interesting game. That would be a good game. 2086 01:55:18,480 --> 01:55:20,400 Speaker 1: That's a good football game because that's a good defense. 2087 01:55:20,440 --> 01:55:22,280 Speaker 1: We'll see how good that run games. They didn't play 2088 01:55:22,320 --> 01:55:26,120 Speaker 1: well on defense yesterday, Tony. They didn't well. Carson Wentz 2089 01:55:26,160 --> 01:55:28,080 Speaker 1: played good, which I was happy for him. I mean, 2090 01:55:28,480 --> 01:55:30,360 Speaker 1: and he's played with a bunch of Dome name receivers. 2091 01:55:30,400 --> 01:55:34,040 Speaker 1: He actually played pretty well. Yeah, Rams over Washington thirty 2092 01:55:34,080 --> 01:55:36,800 Speaker 1: to ten. The big story though, Alex Smith back playing 2093 01:55:36,880 --> 01:55:40,760 Speaker 1: after two years of rehab. What a story. It's amazing. 2094 01:55:40,960 --> 01:55:43,200 Speaker 1: I mean, it was a great story to see. And 2095 01:55:43,240 --> 01:55:47,880 Speaker 1: it's it's so terrible when you think his rehab to 2096 01:55:47,920 --> 01:55:51,200 Speaker 1: get back and he plays and on the same day 2097 01:55:51,440 --> 01:55:57,120 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, that's an awful injury. And but his injury 2098 01:55:57,120 --> 01:55:59,480 Speaker 1: it was not as bad as Al Smith. No, Alex 2099 01:55:59,520 --> 01:56:03,040 Speaker 1: Smith had the knee and it was all but they 2100 01:56:03,080 --> 01:56:05,200 Speaker 1: did have a compound fracture, so they had a surgery 2101 01:56:05,280 --> 01:56:07,120 Speaker 1: last night to make sure the wound was not getting 2102 01:56:07,120 --> 01:56:09,840 Speaker 1: infected in or anything. So that's what happened. That's what 2103 01:56:09,880 --> 01:56:13,440 Speaker 1: happened to what happened to Alex Smithy bas got infection 2104 01:56:13,480 --> 01:56:18,880 Speaker 1: in their acceptance. Yeah, terrible And the Cowboys rallied to 2105 01:56:18,880 --> 01:56:21,000 Speaker 1: win that game, by the way, over the Giants thirty 2106 01:56:21,040 --> 01:56:23,800 Speaker 1: seven to thirty four. The Dolphins, they're not very good 2107 01:56:23,840 --> 01:56:29,000 Speaker 1: the Cowboys football games. No, their defense is terrible. Dolphins 2108 01:56:29,000 --> 01:56:31,360 Speaker 1: went out to San fran and knocked off to forty 2109 01:56:31,960 --> 01:56:38,120 Speaker 1: forty three to seventeen. What well, when Ryan Fitzpatrick gets hot, man, 2110 01:56:38,160 --> 01:56:41,120 Speaker 1: there's no stop at him. You know, when he gets hot, 2111 01:56:41,200 --> 01:56:43,960 Speaker 1: he is unbelievable. But he can get really cold. He 2112 01:56:44,080 --> 01:56:46,920 Speaker 1: was hot right from the start. Forty Niners are terrible. 2113 01:56:46,920 --> 01:56:49,480 Speaker 1: They're playing like fourth stringers in the second there it's 2114 01:56:49,600 --> 01:56:51,960 Speaker 1: they can't rush the pastor the bad defense right now. 2115 01:56:52,080 --> 01:56:55,440 Speaker 1: And Garoppolo was terrible. Are they gonna move on from 2116 01:56:55,440 --> 01:56:59,200 Speaker 1: Garopolo after the year? I don't. They might. They might eat. 2117 01:56:59,520 --> 01:57:01,240 Speaker 1: I mean, he was coming off an injury and he 2118 01:57:01,280 --> 01:57:04,480 Speaker 1: could see he wasn't fully. But they play the Rams 2119 01:57:04,520 --> 01:57:08,839 Speaker 1: Sunday night. That's you know, that's a survival test almost rally. Wow, 2120 01:57:08,920 --> 01:57:12,280 Speaker 1: and then the Seahawks rallied Russell Wilson. Your guy Pete 2121 01:57:12,840 --> 01:57:15,240 Speaker 1: had a big game and a big rally. Again, that's 2122 01:57:15,240 --> 01:57:16,760 Speaker 1: not the story, though. Would you have gone for it 2123 01:57:16,800 --> 01:57:18,320 Speaker 1: on fourth down or would you have kick to make 2124 01:57:18,320 --> 01:57:21,800 Speaker 1: it eight? I like that he went for it. Then 2125 01:57:23,120 --> 01:57:24,960 Speaker 1: you need inches. If you can't get inches, what are 2126 01:57:24,960 --> 01:57:27,320 Speaker 1: you doing? By the way, I sent out a screenshot 2127 01:57:27,360 --> 01:57:31,760 Speaker 1: on Twitter and from uh the run there is the 2128 01:57:32,160 --> 01:57:34,720 Speaker 1: now the fullback, it's the fullback lead. So he takes 2129 01:57:34,760 --> 01:57:37,160 Speaker 1: on the linebacker. But Tony, all he has to do 2130 01:57:37,200 --> 01:57:39,000 Speaker 1: is make one little bounce to the right and he 2131 01:57:39,040 --> 01:57:44,200 Speaker 1: walks in. He walks in. Yeah, I think I like 2132 01:57:44,360 --> 01:57:47,520 Speaker 1: that because, like, first of all, you're telling me you're 2133 01:57:47,520 --> 01:57:54,200 Speaker 1: gonna go bet on Russell Wilson not getting two point conversion, right, Okay, 2134 01:57:55,200 --> 01:57:59,160 Speaker 1: I mean it's like I started, that's probably the thirty 2135 01:57:59,280 --> 01:58:02,920 Speaker 1: or something, but I've to the kickoff. Here's you were 2136 01:58:03,000 --> 01:58:05,640 Speaker 1: running right through them the whole game. And by the way, 2137 01:58:05,800 --> 01:58:08,720 Speaker 1: that's right, and they have a terrible defense, and if 2138 01:58:08,720 --> 01:58:12,520 Speaker 1: you get an inch, you win the game. The percentages, 2139 01:58:12,680 --> 01:58:14,240 Speaker 1: I think would tell you to go for it if 2140 01:58:14,280 --> 01:58:15,920 Speaker 1: you want to go to this whole analytics book. I 2141 01:58:15,920 --> 01:58:18,200 Speaker 1: think the analytics they go for it because of the percentage. 2142 01:58:19,080 --> 01:58:21,160 Speaker 1: I was told, and tell me if you think, if 2143 01:58:21,160 --> 01:58:22,879 Speaker 1: do you think that guy should have scored a touchdown? 2144 01:58:23,760 --> 01:58:26,240 Speaker 1: It's so hard you take pictures and like it's like, yeah, 2145 01:58:26,720 --> 01:58:29,600 Speaker 1: he's still he still should I was told there would 2146 01:58:29,640 --> 01:58:33,320 Speaker 1: be no math Monday night football. Justin Herbert is the 2147 01:58:33,320 --> 01:58:34,920 Speaker 1: man in l A for the one in three in 2148 01:58:34,960 --> 01:58:37,440 Speaker 1: Los Angeles Chargers, and this week they'll head to New 2149 01:58:37,560 --> 01:58:39,320 Speaker 1: Orleans to face one of the old time greats and 2150 01:58:39,440 --> 01:58:42,520 Speaker 1: Drew Brees and the two and two Saints. No Michael Thomas, 2151 01:58:42,720 --> 01:58:45,800 Speaker 1: he sucked a teammate during practice this week? Who you 2152 01:58:45,880 --> 01:58:49,960 Speaker 1: got in the Supernome tonight? I'm taking this Saint. I 2153 01:58:50,000 --> 01:58:51,920 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be close. I think Herber is gonna 2154 01:58:51,920 --> 01:58:54,720 Speaker 1: play well. By the way, good for Sean Payton. That 2155 01:58:54,800 --> 01:58:56,640 Speaker 1: must have been a nasty fight. Because you've got Tony, 2156 01:58:56,680 --> 01:59:02,280 Speaker 1: You've been around practice fights. Somebody must have punched. Did 2157 01:59:02,320 --> 01:59:04,440 Speaker 1: it go the question I have? Did it go into 2158 01:59:04,480 --> 01:59:07,600 Speaker 1: the locker room afterwards? And that's where the punch happened? 2159 01:59:08,080 --> 01:59:11,160 Speaker 1: Because I'm gonna go the practice field. Yeah, I mean, 2160 01:59:11,320 --> 01:59:13,400 Speaker 1: I've been involved in the fights, and I've been on 2161 01:59:13,480 --> 01:59:15,160 Speaker 1: teams when the fight goes into the locker room and 2162 01:59:15,160 --> 01:59:17,760 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, guys are gonna whack What team, Tony, 2163 01:59:17,920 --> 01:59:20,680 Speaker 1: what team? What team? Tell us more. I'm not gonna 2164 01:59:20,720 --> 01:59:23,640 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna tell you more. Um, but it must 2165 01:59:23,640 --> 01:59:26,600 Speaker 1: have been bad because typically coaches don't suspend a guy 2166 01:59:26,760 --> 01:59:30,440 Speaker 1: for a fight on the practice field. Gone. He must 2167 01:59:30,440 --> 01:59:32,800 Speaker 1: have been out of control. I'm gonna pick the Saints too, 2168 01:59:33,000 --> 01:59:35,520 Speaker 1: but I think it's really close. I think my biggest 2169 01:59:35,560 --> 01:59:37,760 Speaker 1: concern about the charges no Joey boast or at least 2170 01:59:37,760 --> 01:59:39,400 Speaker 1: it's questionable. I don't know if he's gonna play night. 2171 01:59:39,440 --> 01:59:42,280 Speaker 1: That's gonna hurt him. All right, see you next week, Tony. 2172 01:59:42,360 --> 01:59:45,920 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you, Pete Brisco, Tony Boselli. I'm j P. Shadrick. 2173 01:59:45,960 --> 01:59:48,160 Speaker 1: Will catch you next week. 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