WEBVTT - How Underwater Tunnels Work

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<v Speaker 1>dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark.

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<v Speaker 1>There's Charles W. Bryant. Noel is with us again. That's right. Really,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just been a very short period of time since

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<v Speaker 1>he was last with us. Well, who knows, we might

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<v Speaker 1>release these weeks apart just to throw people, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's possible. How you doing fine? How are you? I'm

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<v Speaker 1>good man, I'm I'm great, I'm right. A tunnel through

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<v Speaker 1>this show and get all up out of him. That's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty lame. It was okay, Um, it worked though, because

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<v Speaker 1>what we're talking about has to do with tunnels. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you caught that. Yeah, we covered

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of this in the Subways podcast. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>cutt and cover, cut and cover, But this is this

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<v Speaker 1>goes deep undercutting covering. You gotta stop. I don't know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about underwater tunnel specifically. That's right, which, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, we should probably say for those of you

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<v Speaker 1>who are into semantics, um, the word tunnel is applied

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<v Speaker 1>only to something that is bored entirely underground. Yes, if

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<v Speaker 1>if you say, like we talked about with cut and

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<v Speaker 1>cover in subways, if you dig out a trench, put

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<v Speaker 1>in your tunnel and then backfill over your tunnel, what

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<v Speaker 1>you've created is a conduit. Yeah. And if you if

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<v Speaker 1>you correct people when they talk about this kind of thing,

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<v Speaker 1>you're so obnoxious or you're an engineer or sea. But

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<v Speaker 1>engineers don't even do that because they still want to

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<v Speaker 1>be liked, you know, they don't want to be that guy. Um. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So we're talking about how and I think a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people wonder how did you managed to get a

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<v Speaker 1>tunnel under the water. We're gonna tell you it's really

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<v Speaker 1>not that hard and there's a few ways. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if saying it's not that hard is correct. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>not that um complicated in a engineering sense. Again, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I think none of these Like I was like, what

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<v Speaker 1>they bore a tunnel under a river? Right? But just

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<v Speaker 1>the this is the the overview. I mean, you can't

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<v Speaker 1>read this article ago building underwater railway tunnel? Is that

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<v Speaker 1>what you thought I was saying. No, No No, I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>saying like there's so much more to like just the details. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, but you weren't saying that there's particle physics

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<v Speaker 1>and there's digging a big hole under a river. You

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<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, Man, we're going to hear from

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<v Speaker 1>some angry civil engineer. No. I think it's great. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's modern, modern marvel is what it is. It is. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so chuck, Yes, it's not necessarily modern, and it's no.

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<v Speaker 1>People have been digging under rivers um since the Babylonians. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I was quite surprised by this. They managed to build

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<v Speaker 1>a three thousand foot bricklined, art supported tunnel twelve by

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen feet under well, they diverted the Euphrates River and

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<v Speaker 1>it was a pedestrian passageway. That's crazy, right, This is BC.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think they diverted it temporarily. Well yeah, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>but even still it's still a tunnel. And they still

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<v Speaker 1>did this several thousand years ago, and they diverted a

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<v Speaker 1>river which is in President's own. I'm impressed with them.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad to hear you are too. Um. Over the years,

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<v Speaker 1>people kind of I imagine, built and failed spectacularly and

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<v Speaker 1>trying to build underwater. Um. It wasn't until the nineteenth

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<v Speaker 1>century that people really kind of started to advance by

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<v Speaker 1>leaps and bounds over say the Babylonian methods to come

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<v Speaker 1>up with some techniques that are still in use today. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>as far as underwater goes, I mean, they were tunneling

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<v Speaker 1>all during the eighteenth and nineteen centuries. And in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>the word undermine I thought it was fairly interesting. It

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<v Speaker 1>came from the fact that there were miners who dug

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<v Speaker 1>undercastle walls to collapse them. That's a pretty good idea. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a very good idea. And I don't think we

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<v Speaker 1>covered that in our Castle podcast either. No, I wish

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<v Speaker 1>we had. Yeah, that would have been complete. That that

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<v Speaker 1>episode is incomplete. But like you said, it was eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds when we finally said, hey, let's try this underwater

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<v Speaker 1>thing again because we think we can do it now. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and they kind of had it licked. And again, like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, some of the techniques that they came up

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<v Speaker 1>with at this time are still in use today. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I got a question for you, though, If it's dangerous

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<v Speaker 1>and it's uh pricey, why do you tunnel at all?

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<v Speaker 1>Why not just build bridges? That's a fantastic question, and

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<v Speaker 1>I happen to have some answers. Okay, all right, I

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<v Speaker 1>still thinking about this. You build a bridge, it makes sense,

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<v Speaker 1>it's beautiful bridge works. We know how to build bridges,

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<v Speaker 1>We've been doing it forever. But what if you have

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<v Speaker 1>a heavily trafficked shipping lane with ships that are taller

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<v Speaker 1>than your bridge. You can build a drawbridge, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be up and down, up and now and up

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<v Speaker 1>and down all day. And don't fool yourself. A drawbridge

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<v Speaker 1>is pretty expensive too. That's one all right. Uh. If

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<v Speaker 1>you are um an enemy of the United States, your

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<v Speaker 1>bridge could be a target from air strikes. Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a problem for you if you I mean, if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to build it again afterwards, it could be struck

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<v Speaker 1>down again and then again. You want your bridges to

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<v Speaker 1>remain intact. Yes, I'm gonna argue for tunnels here though,

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<v Speaker 1>my friend and say that they will stand tides very

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<v Speaker 1>well and currents and storms. It's not out in the

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<v Speaker 1>open like a bridge is. Uh. You can go greater

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<v Speaker 1>distances with the tunnel, and you can carry like almost

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<v Speaker 1>virtually unlimited amounts of weight. So score one for tunnel

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<v Speaker 1>and chuck yeah, because with the bridge you have to

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<v Speaker 1>worry about it collapsing with the tunnel. It's like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you're probably pretty firm against some sort of bedrock or

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<v Speaker 1>seabed or something like that. You're you're you can put

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<v Speaker 1>as many trucks as you want on and it's not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna break. Yeah, I guess we'd call seismic activity a draw.

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<v Speaker 1>You have you ever seen? Why? Not good for either

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<v Speaker 1>one the bridges? Yeah, that is nuts. Is that in

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<v Speaker 1>Seattle or Washington? I don't know, man, but that's you

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<v Speaker 1>look at that and think, how does that move like

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<v Speaker 1>that without just completely breaking apart? It does pretty scary. So, um,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to call that a draw though, because earthquakes

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<v Speaker 1>are not good for either. Um. Well, cost you said

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<v Speaker 1>that the bridges are costly. Well, bridges are get costly

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<v Speaker 1>or the bigger they are, whereas tunnels get cheaper the

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<v Speaker 1>bigger they are. Yeah, the length. With the tunnel, it

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<v Speaker 1>it starts, the cost starts to drop as it gets

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<v Speaker 1>longer and longer. Not so with the bridge. So why

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<v Speaker 1>then would city planners still use tunneling as a last

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<v Speaker 1>uh sort of a last resort? I guess because they

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<v Speaker 1>like bridges more. Okay, all right, so that wash and

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<v Speaker 1>seen we were play acting. It's not very well either No,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was pretty good. Oh, I thought was okay. So, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about some of the tunnels they've got going

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<v Speaker 1>on these days that are pretty remarkable. Um, there's one

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<v Speaker 1>that actually connects two islands in Japan. Um. It's called

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<v Speaker 1>the Well, you're the resident Japanese expert, have you pronounced that?

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<v Speaker 1>The Icon Tunnel, the Cicon Tunnel, And that is the

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<v Speaker 1>one of those two holds the record for the longest

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<v Speaker 1>and deepest underwater rail tunnel. Um. And they did that

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<v Speaker 1>in the nineteen fifties after a typhoon sank some ferry

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<v Speaker 1>boats and the cigar us straight and killed like over

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<v Speaker 1>fo people. They said, you know what, maybe we should

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<v Speaker 1>go underwater with this operation, and they did so. And

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<v Speaker 1>it connects Hanshoe and Hokkaido, and Hokkaido is known for

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<v Speaker 1>its uh sub factories. And you even have a tipit

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<v Speaker 1>for me the Simpsons tidbit. Oh was that from the

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<v Speaker 1>Mr Sparkle episode man one of the best ever. So

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<v Speaker 1>in they completed the Icon Sikan Tunnel. Yeah, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go with Sikan okay um and it stretches thirty three

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<v Speaker 1>and a half miles. Yeah, the whole tunnel does. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's impressive. It is, but then, um, only fourteen and

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<v Speaker 1>a half miles of it, only fourteen and a half

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<v Speaker 1>miles of it are under water. Yeah, but it goes

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<v Speaker 1>close to eight hundred feet deep, which is that's sort

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<v Speaker 1>of the remarkable part. That's a long way down. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to pop your ears when you're on that train. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure. The Chunnel, which we were laughing about before

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<v Speaker 1>we hit record. Just the name, and we should say

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<v Speaker 1>it's called the tunnel because it's actually the Channel Tunnel.

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<v Speaker 1>It goes under the English Channel to connect the UK

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<v Speaker 1>in France. Yes, and that was finished in the mid

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<v Speaker 1>nineties and uh, twenty four of its thirty one miles

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<v Speaker 1>or underwater, but it only goes about two six ft down. Yes. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so funny to use words like only with stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like this or just yea yeah. Um. And then the

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<v Speaker 1>newest member to the underwater tunnel family is the Marmaray

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<v Speaker 1>Tunnel that in Istanbul that connects the Asian portion of

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<v Speaker 1>Istanbul and the European portion of Istanbul, which means it's

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<v Speaker 1>the only underwater tunnel or the first to connect two continents.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, And The name comes from d c. Of

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<v Speaker 1>Marmara and the word ray which is Turkish for rail,

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<v Speaker 1>because it is another rail tunnel, meaning train. And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty cool when they were when they started digging it,

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<v Speaker 1>this thing, this project went slow as molasses, not just

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<v Speaker 1>because a construction, but because they came upon the port

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<v Speaker 1>of Theodosius. Theodosius I think, is that right? Sounds good

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<v Speaker 1>to me. So it was um it was a port

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<v Speaker 1>in Istanbul. Back then it was constantinople Um for that

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<v Speaker 1>was the busiest port in the world for about a

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<v Speaker 1>thousand years, and it was lost and they came upon

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<v Speaker 1>it while digging this tunnel, and the archaeologists were like, okay, stop, stop, stop, turn. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they found forty artifacts from this. They didn't turn, they

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<v Speaker 1>went through it, but they documented everything and grabbed it

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<v Speaker 1>for the museum. Well, if it hadn't been for the tunnel,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they would have never found that stuff, you know. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>So that was an immersion tunnel and it was the

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<v Speaker 1>longest and deepest immersion tunnel ever built. Immersing tunnels are

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite. Yeah, that's the one that I didn't think

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<v Speaker 1>was super complicated. I saw a couple of videos and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm telling you it is. There's a lot to it,

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<v Speaker 1>just the pontoons alone or yeah, but it's like the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of thing you can replicate in your bathtub, That's

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean. But uh so we're gonna get into

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<v Speaker 1>what that all means, because, um, there are quite a

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<v Speaker 1>few ways to build tunnels and three. Yeah, and there

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<v Speaker 1>wells three and use. I bet there's other dudes out

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<v Speaker 1>there trying to figure new stuff out. Um, but one

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<v Speaker 1>of the oldest that is still in use. It's called

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<v Speaker 1>a tunneling shield thanks to a remarkable, remarkable dude, a

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<v Speaker 1>Frenchman named Mark Isombard Brunel, who was eventually knighted for

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<v Speaker 1>his work as inventing the tunnel shield. Understandably, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty amazing. He got the idea from watching a shipworm,

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<v Speaker 1>which is like a naked clam because these little shells

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<v Speaker 1>on one end. It's basically yah, it's like the termite

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<v Speaker 1>of the sea is what they call it. Because this

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<v Speaker 1>thing bores into docks and boats and basically tunnels into

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<v Speaker 1>wood and uh leaves saw dust in his wake. And

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<v Speaker 1>this guy saw this things like, hey, that's a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>good idea. I think we'll make a tunneling feel exactly. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So he came up with the Brunell shield, which is

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<v Speaker 1>actually rectangular, but the best way to think of what

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<v Speaker 1>a modern tunneling shield looks like. Um, there's a description

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<v Speaker 1>given in this article that makes sense if you add

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<v Speaker 1>one extra sentence. You take a coffee can. Imagine a

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<v Speaker 1>coffee can't without its lid, and the bottom part of

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<v Speaker 1>the coffee can is pointed somewhat with some holes in it,

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<v Speaker 1>And when you dig it into the ground and then

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<v Speaker 1>turn it on its side to bore horizontally, what you

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<v Speaker 1>have is something like a tunneling shield. So at the

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<v Speaker 1>front end, what part did they miss? They're going straight

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<v Speaker 1>down and it just completely confused me, the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't going to the side. Oh, I couldn't right

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<v Speaker 1>at my head around until I finally was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I see what they're saying, So that that coffee can't

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<v Speaker 1>imagine it jammed horizontally underground. Yeah, let's go in and

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<v Speaker 1>explore it. Right in the front, there's holes and you

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<v Speaker 1>have different kind of compartments where people stand there called

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<v Speaker 1>muckers and they dig out the dirt in front of them, right. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And in Brunel's case. Um, they were cast iron shutters,

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<v Speaker 1>and they would just open these shutters one at a

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<v Speaker 1>time and just dig a few inches out. And back

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<v Speaker 1>then they used screwjacks, but now they use hydraulics and

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<v Speaker 1>just inch inch away forward a little by little, little

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<v Speaker 1>by little, and the reinforcing them building the sides as

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<v Speaker 1>you go right, And that coffee can in the meantime

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<v Speaker 1>is holding that tunnel shape right, because it's the exact

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<v Speaker 1>shape of the tunnel shield. While the guys in front

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<v Speaker 1>are digging, the coffee can is giving them all support.

0:13:57.720 --> 0:14:01.000
<v Speaker 1>And then right behind it are mac and steel workers

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<v Speaker 1>who are reinforcing the tunnel. And then the the reinforced,

0:14:05.000 --> 0:14:08.839
<v Speaker 1>finished concrete tunnel provides the stability for those hydraulic checks

0:14:08.840 --> 0:14:11.920
<v Speaker 1>that slowly and little by a little inch the whole

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<v Speaker 1>thing forward. Yeah, I mean, it's the It's like every tunnel,

0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:17.840
<v Speaker 1>although actually the emergent tones aren't. But when you're digging

0:14:17.840 --> 0:14:21.840
<v Speaker 1>a tunnel, it goes back to the Babylonians. You dig,

0:14:22.000 --> 0:14:26.800
<v Speaker 1>support advance, dig support advance, just like Charles Bronson in

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<v Speaker 1>The Great Escape? Oh yeah, was that his mantra? No,

0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:34.040
<v Speaker 1>this was just I'm gonna go tunnel in this tunnel

0:14:34.080 --> 0:14:37.080
<v Speaker 1>and build the frame. You're doing a good Bronson. Well

0:14:37.120 --> 0:14:38.800
<v Speaker 1>it's sort of Bronson, but it's also sort that the

0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:43.040
<v Speaker 1>guy from The Simpsons who was based on Bronson Pankas area.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that who does that? Sure? Okay, sure, yeah, I

0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:50.800
<v Speaker 1>don't know that for sure, but is it? Okay? Um,

0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:56.120
<v Speaker 1>it's Simpsons reference number two. Oh yeah, nice. Uh but

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<v Speaker 1>remember in The Great Escape too, they needed uh and

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<v Speaker 1>of course we'll see this too. It's very dangerous job

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<v Speaker 1>and they needed air. So they had them I think,

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<v Speaker 1>uh fire billows, bellows, uh something pumping bellows, just to

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<v Speaker 1>pump fresh air in there, because when you're hundred feet

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<v Speaker 1>in a tunnel underground, especially the size of one the

0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:16.560
<v Speaker 1>Great Escape, just like big enough for your body, you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna run out of air. Yeah, and well that's something

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<v Speaker 1>that they ran into. We talked about. I don't remember

0:15:21.320 --> 0:15:23.360
<v Speaker 1>what episode it was, but we were talking about building

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<v Speaker 1>the Brooklyn Bridge. Um. They had these basically uh an

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<v Speaker 1>upright coffee can that they dug the the the posts

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<v Speaker 1>out of. Um. This is the same they ran in

0:15:37.000 --> 0:15:39.800
<v Speaker 1>the same thing when they were building the the the

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<v Speaker 1>tunnel underneath the Thames River. Thanks to Brunel, he built

0:15:43.800 --> 0:15:47.640
<v Speaker 1>it with his son. Yeah, very shortet, but it took

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<v Speaker 1>about eight or nine years. Um, and it was there

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<v Speaker 1>was a shutdown for seven years because it ran out

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<v Speaker 1>of money. But um, it was deep enough so that

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<v Speaker 1>you had to pump compressed air in to keep the

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<v Speaker 1>water out. And since there was compressed are you had

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<v Speaker 1>to go through a series of airlocks or else you

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<v Speaker 1>get the venture. And UM, I don't know if we've

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<v Speaker 1>said this, it seems obvious, but the reason you're doing

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<v Speaker 1>all of this is because digging into soft earth is

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<v Speaker 1>problematic because you're leading edge is going to continually want

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<v Speaker 1>to collapse on top of you unless you have pressurised

0:16:20.960 --> 0:16:23.520
<v Speaker 1>there to keep the water at bay, and you have

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<v Speaker 1>guys digging out through a support structure e g. A

0:16:28.560 --> 0:16:33.000
<v Speaker 1>tunneling shield, sand hogs. That's messive method one, yes, and

0:16:33.040 --> 0:16:34.800
<v Speaker 1>it's an old one and it's a good one. It's

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<v Speaker 1>still in use today. Um. It has to be softer.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't dig through bedrock because you know this thing

0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:45.360
<v Speaker 1>moves through hydraulic jacks and there's guys digging. Um. If

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<v Speaker 1>you run into like some serious rock, the best thing

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<v Speaker 1>to use is called a tunnel boring machine. Yeah, if

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<v Speaker 1>you've ever seen die Hard three? You get a good glimpse,

0:16:57.360 --> 0:17:01.680
<v Speaker 1>Jeremy ir Yeah, which is a pretty good one. Um

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<v Speaker 1>in fact, well actually yeah, one of only two good ones,

0:17:05.840 --> 0:17:08.400
<v Speaker 1>Sam Jackson. Yeah, the first one and that one were

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good. The second one and I didn't. All the

0:17:10.840 --> 0:17:14.080
<v Speaker 1>other ones are just terrible. The second one, it wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>so bad. It was all right. I like to see

0:17:16.600 --> 0:17:19.600
<v Speaker 1>it was at the airport, Yeah, it was okay. I

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<v Speaker 1>love any kind of airport disaster flick. Oh yeah, man,

0:17:24.040 --> 0:17:30.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm crazy for those movies. Airport, airport, airport two, whatever, airplane.

0:17:30.720 --> 0:17:33.160
<v Speaker 1>I love him. What about that bad Tom Hanks movie

0:17:33.160 --> 0:17:35.159
<v Speaker 1>where he played the foreign guy that lived in the airport?

0:17:35.240 --> 0:17:37.680
<v Speaker 1>I never saw that, But did you know Terminal? Yeah?

0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:40.920
<v Speaker 1>Did you know that it's based on a real guy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know that. I haven't seen the movie. That

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't very good. The I think the fact that it

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<v Speaker 1>was like kind of lighthearted and warm, that's not what

0:17:51.560 --> 0:17:54.600
<v Speaker 1>the guy was like. Yeah. Well Spielberg plus Tom Hanks

0:17:54.640 --> 0:17:59.480
<v Speaker 1>doing accents. Man, have you seen him doing Walt Disney? Yeah?

0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:01.960
<v Speaker 1>I thought that It's okay in the preview, now I

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<v Speaker 1>can't tell I did. I managed to get through only

0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:09.240
<v Speaker 1>about twenty minutes of Cloud Atlas the other night. I

0:18:09.320 --> 0:18:13.919
<v Speaker 1>just can't see Tom Hanks is like this Cockney rough ruffian. Well.

0:18:13.960 --> 0:18:16.680
<v Speaker 1>I love the guy. He's an amazing actor. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>just it didn't work. No, why did they do that?

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<v Speaker 1>To know? Hodgman's got some good stories about Tom Hanks,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, I don't know if you should be

0:18:25.760 --> 0:18:28.040
<v Speaker 1>telling people that. No, I'm not gonna tell the stories.

0:18:29.040 --> 0:18:34.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't even know if you yes, all right man,

0:18:34.080 --> 0:18:39.560
<v Speaker 1>that was a nice hank Sean sidebar. Tunnel boring machines

0:18:39.800 --> 0:18:43.280
<v Speaker 1>Die Hard two three. Yeah, so these things are like

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of stories tall. Yeah, they're amazing. They're they're

0:18:47.800 --> 0:18:50.760
<v Speaker 1>tunnel boring machines is the right word for him. They're

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<v Speaker 1>all inclusive machines. They cut, they support, and they build

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<v Speaker 1>as they go along. They're magnificent as far as as

0:19:02.280 --> 0:19:06.040
<v Speaker 1>mechanical engineering goes. Yeah, they have a spinning cutting head

0:19:06.600 --> 0:19:11.800
<v Speaker 1>and he's basically huge giant steel wheels that twist and

0:19:11.880 --> 0:19:15.800
<v Speaker 1>turn in different directions and then that whole thing turns

0:19:16.080 --> 0:19:21.400
<v Speaker 1>and it's just a destructo mobile that goes straight ahead

0:19:21.560 --> 0:19:25.520
<v Speaker 1>and uh lifts that pummels that rock and shoots it

0:19:25.560 --> 0:19:28.880
<v Speaker 1>out on a conveyor behind. Yeah, just like a five

0:19:28.960 --> 0:19:32.200
<v Speaker 1>valve a ship worm. And then uh, this is the

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<v Speaker 1>part I didn't get that they're actually building it with

0:19:34.440 --> 0:19:38.080
<v Speaker 1>an erector as it goes. Man, that's crazy. Yeah, it's

0:19:38.080 --> 0:19:41.320
<v Speaker 1>all this one big machine that's you just basically pressed

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<v Speaker 1>start and it goes forward. And they actually used tunnel

0:19:45.160 --> 0:19:49.720
<v Speaker 1>boring machines, a pair of them for the chunnel construction,

0:19:50.480 --> 0:19:52.679
<v Speaker 1>one from one side and one from the other side.

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<v Speaker 1>And thanks to GPS, Yeah, good GPS um, they were

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<v Speaker 1>able to keep them on a course for one another.

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<v Speaker 1>First I thought missing, Yeah, the first thing I thought

0:20:03.800 --> 0:20:06.920
<v Speaker 1>was I would end up like ten ft above. Oh man,

0:20:06.960 --> 0:20:09.240
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't even end up that close. Yeah, and you'd

0:20:09.280 --> 0:20:11.040
<v Speaker 1>be screwed. You'd have to start all over. I would

0:20:11.119 --> 0:20:16.959
<v Speaker 1>end up in Scotland. Well, it'd be great. We'd be

0:20:17.000 --> 0:20:22.439
<v Speaker 1>like just tunnel up and get drunk distilleries. Uh. But

0:20:22.560 --> 0:20:24.520
<v Speaker 1>luckily they had a lot smarter people than us working

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<v Speaker 1>on the channel. Right. Um. They drive forward, Uh at

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<v Speaker 1>a rate of about two and fifty per day. That's

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<v Speaker 1>significant because we're talking like bedrock, you know, like if

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<v Speaker 1>you if you were able to take away all of

0:20:39.240 --> 0:20:43.000
<v Speaker 1>the Dirk and all of the water on Earth. What

0:20:43.040 --> 0:20:46.480
<v Speaker 1>you would have is rock. That's the mantel, and that's

0:20:46.520 --> 0:20:49.680
<v Speaker 1>what you're digging through. Is this rock it's made to

0:20:49.720 --> 0:20:53.800
<v Speaker 1>support the earth exactly. Heck, it is the earth. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and um, this is what these machines dig through at

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<v Speaker 1>a rate two fifty ft a day. That's impressive. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>in they work, Apparently they're uh something this violent is

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<v Speaker 1>prone to breaking down. So I guess when you have

0:21:06.600 --> 0:21:09.639
<v Speaker 1>them up and running, that's a good thing. When they're down, then, um,

0:21:09.680 --> 0:21:11.800
<v Speaker 1>you're obviously gonna be losing time. Did you see how

0:21:11.840 --> 0:21:14.040
<v Speaker 1>the author of this article put it? I did. I

0:21:14.040 --> 0:21:19.080
<v Speaker 1>didn't even want to comment. You want to go ahead? Well,

0:21:19.080 --> 0:21:21.639
<v Speaker 1>he just says that they breakdown more often than he

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<v Speaker 1>used jaguar, except he probably said jag earra jar. I

0:21:27.080 --> 0:21:31.240
<v Speaker 1>didn't know that, or jaguars. Are they famous for not working? Yeah?

0:21:31.280 --> 0:21:34.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, I really didn't know that. The older ones

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<v Speaker 1>are well, that's like any old car, right, I think

0:21:38.400 --> 0:21:41.919
<v Speaker 1>they they? And like if you w rabbits had like

0:21:42.160 --> 0:21:48.000
<v Speaker 1>real bad track records. Remember the rabbit mhm or the cabriolet? Yeah,

0:21:48.040 --> 0:21:55.040
<v Speaker 1>every story girl's favorite car, right? What else? Remember Looker? Yeah?

0:21:55.240 --> 0:21:57.720
<v Speaker 1>It even said look car on the side. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>French for the car, is it? Alright? So UM, did

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<v Speaker 1>you know Josh that they are have been banning about

0:22:06.119 --> 0:22:10.679
<v Speaker 1>the idea of a transit plant tunnel for decades. It's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty awesome. I don't think it will ever happen though. No.

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<v Speaker 1>They would be very costly because it would be the

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<v Speaker 1>um It would be an immersion tube. But they wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be able to go to the sea floor obviously, because

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<v Speaker 1>that's just crazy. It would be tethered, floating essentially at

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<v Speaker 1>about a hundred and fifty ft below the water, right

0:22:29.400 --> 0:22:34.320
<v Speaker 1>dangling from a pontoon on the surface, and uh fifty

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<v Speaker 1>four thousand football field side size sections. And that's how

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to get into that in a minute. But

0:22:39.359 --> 0:22:41.800
<v Speaker 1>that's how they work with these immersion tunnels. They do

0:22:41.800 --> 0:22:44.720
<v Speaker 1>it one section at a time. It's just too much

0:22:44.800 --> 0:22:48.639
<v Speaker 1>money and too much stuff. There's well, there's actually an

0:22:48.640 --> 0:22:53.560
<v Speaker 1>immersion tube tunnel UM that's proposed in Norway across the

0:22:53.640 --> 0:22:58.160
<v Speaker 1>Sogna Fiord. That sounds much more manageable than the Atlantic Ocean. Really,

0:22:58.280 --> 0:23:00.760
<v Speaker 1>I mean, just the idea of this this ontoon getting

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<v Speaker 1>pummeled by UM by cyclones and and just bad weather

0:23:06.800 --> 0:23:09.280
<v Speaker 1>in general. Plus why do it these people who just

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<v Speaker 1>want to drive to England from New York. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that the logic behind any advantage behind

0:23:17.560 --> 0:23:19.560
<v Speaker 1>something like that. It just seems like it would just

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<v Speaker 1>every every foot of it is a potential for it

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<v Speaker 1>to just break and the whole thing's trashed. But the

0:23:27.200 --> 0:23:29.199
<v Speaker 1>one in Norway is that an I T T an

0:23:29.240 --> 0:23:32.040
<v Speaker 1>emerged tube tunnel. It is dangling from a pontoona bu

0:23:33.240 --> 0:23:37.680
<v Speaker 1>that one's dangling, right, So that technology exists. Uh well,

0:23:37.720 --> 0:23:40.520
<v Speaker 1>it's it's in proposal stage. And like the thing I saw,

0:23:40.720 --> 0:23:42.879
<v Speaker 1>it was still probably kind of an overview, but they

0:23:42.920 --> 0:23:45.320
<v Speaker 1>seemed pretty confident about it. They had like you know,

0:23:45.520 --> 0:23:48.120
<v Speaker 1>titled charts and all that kind of stuff. But it's

0:23:48.200 --> 0:23:52.320
<v Speaker 1>it's it's only something that's um like twenty kilometers or

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<v Speaker 1>thirty kilometer or something like that. It's not all the

0:23:54.480 --> 0:23:58.399
<v Speaker 1>way across the Atlantic Ocean, you know. All right, So

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we should fully explain in the I T

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<v Speaker 1>T then, which is our final way that you can

0:24:03.160 --> 0:24:06.520
<v Speaker 1>tunnel underground and again my favorite, But before we get

0:24:06.560 --> 0:24:15.600
<v Speaker 1>to it, let's do a message break and chuck now

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<v Speaker 1>we finally get to talk about my favorite type of tunneling,

0:24:19.080 --> 0:24:22.520
<v Speaker 1>the immersion tube tunnel. That's right. So these rubber seals

0:24:22.520 --> 0:24:26.119
<v Speaker 1>have gina gaskets actually is what they're called. And you

0:24:26.200 --> 0:24:29.359
<v Speaker 1>winch the two together and you pump the water out

0:24:29.760 --> 0:24:33.720
<v Speaker 1>and these gaskets and seals the change and water pressure

0:24:34.160 --> 0:24:38.879
<v Speaker 1>creates compresses them and creates an airtight seal. But it's underwater,

0:24:39.760 --> 0:24:43.440
<v Speaker 1>so you would go in, say we want an underground

0:24:43.440 --> 0:24:46.919
<v Speaker 1>tunnel going from this part of land that part of

0:24:47.000 --> 0:24:50.040
<v Speaker 1>land under here, So we're just gonna go in. We're

0:24:50.040 --> 0:24:54.159
<v Speaker 1>gonna dredge and dig and create a trench where we're

0:24:54.200 --> 0:24:58.119
<v Speaker 1>gonna eventually put the tunnel. But we're gonna make the

0:24:58.160 --> 0:25:01.480
<v Speaker 1>tunnel an individual piece of is here on dry land,

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<v Speaker 1>usually at some sort of shipyard, and they're going to

0:25:04.920 --> 0:25:08.080
<v Speaker 1>use the amount the equivalent of stealing concrete to make

0:25:08.119 --> 0:25:13.679
<v Speaker 1>an average size ten story building. So just tip it

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<v Speaker 1>on its side, and that's what your section looks like.

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<v Speaker 1>That's one section um and then once the concrete cures

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<v Speaker 1>after a month, we'll take it out to see in

0:25:22.560 --> 0:25:25.440
<v Speaker 1>a pontoon crane, which is exactly what it sounds like

0:25:25.520 --> 0:25:29.159
<v Speaker 1>that they're gigantic um. We seal it up first so

0:25:29.200 --> 0:25:33.439
<v Speaker 1>that it floats and right. And then once we do

0:25:33.480 --> 0:25:35.520
<v Speaker 1>get it over the site roughly where we want it,

0:25:35.600 --> 0:25:37.600
<v Speaker 1>we will kind of start to sink it a little bit.

0:25:37.760 --> 0:25:40.679
<v Speaker 1>Or I've also seen they'll weight it down, uh, and

0:25:40.720 --> 0:25:44.280
<v Speaker 1>then they'll sink the thing and eventually they'll link it

0:25:44.400 --> 0:25:47.919
<v Speaker 1>up to another segment, so they use winches to to

0:25:48.040 --> 0:25:51.600
<v Speaker 1>pull one segment to another UM. And then these rubber

0:25:51.640 --> 0:25:56.880
<v Speaker 1>gaskets hold the seal. And in this this bulkheads, these

0:25:56.880 --> 0:26:01.879
<v Speaker 1>temporary bulkheads that are keeping the two um the two

0:26:01.960 --> 0:26:05.720
<v Speaker 1>segments separate like inside the tunnel, you couldn't go through them.

0:26:05.760 --> 0:26:08.760
<v Speaker 1>Yet you pump the water out, that changing air pressure

0:26:09.119 --> 0:26:13.040
<v Speaker 1>compresses the rubber gaskets, forming a watertight seal. Then you

0:26:13.119 --> 0:26:17.840
<v Speaker 1>remove the steel bulkheads. Bam, there's two connected segments of

0:26:17.880 --> 0:26:20.159
<v Speaker 1>the tunnel. And you just keep adding and adding and

0:26:20.200 --> 0:26:25.920
<v Speaker 1>adding and adding until you've created your prefab underwater tunnel.

0:26:26.200 --> 0:26:29.560
<v Speaker 1>It's beautiful. Then you cover that up backfillet or something

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<v Speaker 1>with rock. And we have a guy named W. J.

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<v Speaker 1>Wilgas to thank for this because he invented it way

0:26:35.760 --> 0:26:38.639
<v Speaker 1>back in the early nineteen hundreds. There's in early nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds name w J. Wilgas look at my immerse tube

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<v Speaker 1>tunnel where the world's fast, and everyone said, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty good idea. Yeah, and it um. He pioneered

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<v Speaker 1>the technique when he built the Detroit River Railroad tunnel

0:26:54.560 --> 0:26:59.800
<v Speaker 1>connecting uh Michigan to Canada. So technically the first immersed

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<v Speaker 1>to tunnel is a sewer line in Boston in and

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<v Speaker 1>when he built that railway line, that was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>this thing works because we've been shuttling poop in exactly

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<v Speaker 1>and this is like, now we can do it with trains,

0:27:13.400 --> 0:27:15.760
<v Speaker 1>and you are now the man of the hour, w J.

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<v Speaker 1>Because what is a train except a lot of poop?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there's a similarity in but that has been

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<v Speaker 1>the go to since then. Then there's been more than

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<v Speaker 1>a hundred of these built in the twentieth century alone.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh and that didn't even count the twenty first century.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't even know what's been going on the

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<v Speaker 1>past thirteen years. I saw like an engineering thing that's

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<v Speaker 1>that referred to him as rare. But I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>the impression that they're rare at all, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>think they're kind of like the go to technique for

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<v Speaker 1>any well as many as possible. Yeah. Well, the one

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<v Speaker 1>advantage is, um, is that they you can make them

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<v Speaker 1>any shape. You know. It's not like when you have

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<v Speaker 1>a tunnel boring machine. Um, it's gonna have the shape

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<v Speaker 1>of the tunnel borer or the same with the tunnel shields. Well, yeah,

0:28:00.520 --> 0:28:02.399
<v Speaker 1>I guess it's the same. It's the size of the

0:28:02.440 --> 0:28:04.639
<v Speaker 1>giant coffee can. But you can make a tunnel in

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<v Speaker 1>the shape of a diamond if you wanted to. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe not diamond. Well you could be kind of crazy,

0:28:10.800 --> 0:28:13.040
<v Speaker 1>be a big waste of money. But yeah, you can

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<v Speaker 1>take any shape, and um, you will also have to

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<v Speaker 1>use some of those other methods eventually, because this is

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<v Speaker 1>just for the what's along the bottom. To get down

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<v Speaker 1>to that section and then out the entrances and exits,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have to use some other methods, right, you

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<v Speaker 1>might have to tunnel through through some sort of rock

0:28:30.359 --> 0:28:33.840
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. But yeah, when you put these tunnel segments

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<v Speaker 1>in and you pump the water out of the the

0:28:37.280 --> 0:28:40.800
<v Speaker 1>the chamber that connects the two, you take the bulkheads off,

0:28:41.040 --> 0:28:43.200
<v Speaker 1>Like there's your finished tunnel right there. I mean, you've

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<v Speaker 1>got the floors, the walls, the ceiling roadway. You go

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<v Speaker 1>in and put the wiring in and the lighting and

0:28:48.280 --> 0:28:51.760
<v Speaker 1>all that stuff afterward. But your tunnels set. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>just think it's neat. I think it's very neat. Um

0:28:54.760 --> 0:28:57.520
<v Speaker 1>what else you got? I got nothing else. There's one

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<v Speaker 1>proposed right now that will be the long gus immersed

0:29:00.720 --> 0:29:02.920
<v Speaker 1>tube tunnel in the world when it's finished in two

0:29:02.960 --> 0:29:07.040
<v Speaker 1>thousand sixteen. There's a fifty kilometer bridge that connects or

0:29:07.040 --> 0:29:10.680
<v Speaker 1>will connect Hong Kong to Macau, and part of it

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<v Speaker 1>is a six point seven kilometer long immersed tube tunnel

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<v Speaker 1>which will probably be real nice, awesome. Yeah, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>that's it. All right, Go forth and build tunnels, Go

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<v Speaker 1>forth and build underwater tunnels. Let's see. If you want

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<v Speaker 1>to learn more about underwater tunnels, you can type that

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<v Speaker 1>word into the search bar at how stuff works dot com. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And since I said search part, that means it's time

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<v Speaker 1>for listener mail. All right, I'm gonna call this another

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<v Speaker 1>chess email, and this is gonna be it on the

0:29:43.880 --> 0:29:46.120
<v Speaker 1>chess emails. But thank you to everyone who wrote in

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<v Speaker 1>about your chess strategies and stuff. It's pretty great. Hey, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for doing the podcast on chess. It's a great game.

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<v Speaker 1>Here are a few things that you sort of missed jumping.

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<v Speaker 1>Josh implied or maybe even outright said that a night

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<v Speaker 1>only appears to jump over other pieces, it really just

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<v Speaker 1>goes around them. Nights actually can jump over other pieces.

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<v Speaker 1>For example, if you were so inclined on your very

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<v Speaker 1>first move, you could jump your Night over your ponds

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<v Speaker 1>and place it in front of the rest of your pieces.

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<v Speaker 1>There aren't any empty spaces to take your Night around

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<v Speaker 1>your islands in the stream, So that's jumping baby. A

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<v Speaker 1>little more on castling a couple of things. As you said,

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<v Speaker 1>you cannot castle if it either if either piece involved

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<v Speaker 1>has moved during the game. You also can't do it

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<v Speaker 1>if the king is in check or has to move

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<v Speaker 1>through check to castle. So the opposition queen is attacking

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<v Speaker 1>a square that the king has to go through the

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<v Speaker 1>castle it it cannot be done. Yeah, yeah, you got that.

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<v Speaker 1>You should probably all go back rewind that and listen

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<v Speaker 1>to it again. That's right, and um that's from Matt

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<v Speaker 1>in Pittsburgh. I'm sorry in l A via Pittsburgh, but

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<v Speaker 1>I did want to point out someone else in in

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<v Speaker 1>um another correction. I think we we got them pawn

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<v Speaker 1>promotion right, like if you make get your pawn all

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<v Speaker 1>the way to the other end of the table. But um,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think we pointed out that you can only

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<v Speaker 1>promote it to a piece that you've already lost. Oh no,

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<v Speaker 1>we definitely did not. In other words, you can't have

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<v Speaker 1>two queens. But if you specifically said you have two queens,

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<v Speaker 1>oh did Yeah, Okay, I genuinely didn't know that. I

0:31:22.720 --> 0:31:24.480
<v Speaker 1>thought that. I didn't catch that. I knew that, but

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't catch it. So that was from someone else.

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<v Speaker 1>But thank you Matt in l A via Pittsburgh. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he also described on poissant, but I think we've already

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<v Speaker 1>taken that up in another listener mail. So yeah, thanks

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