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Speaker 3: This is the Player's Lounge, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 3: World headquarters at the Star. Now your hosts, Barry Church,

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Speaker 3: Hecma Harrison, and Newie Scruggs.

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Speaker 4: Play fole.

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Speaker 2: Here for you.

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Speaker 4: Happy New Year, everybody, Happy New Year, twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 4: We are here. We got Bury Church looking good.

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Speaker 5: Look at that.

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Speaker 4: Looking good twenty twenty five coming in here.

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Speaker 6: Barry looked like the only uncle and then the family

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Speaker 6: that went the college out of.

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Speaker 5: Principal for you gotta do it like that.

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Speaker 2: At least give us.

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Speaker 5: You got the film text. Send everybody a text. Man,

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Speaker 5: we get dressed up.

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Speaker 4: I got some threads engagements I had.

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Speaker 7: I had to, you know, put a little something known

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Speaker 7: starting the new year off right. I appreciated my brother. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: I appreciates married.

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Speaker 4: The house, former Cowboys, Verry Verry church Way, former Cowboy

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Speaker 4: defensive line. Me to my trade more. Happy new Year.

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Speaker 5: I appreciate.

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Speaker 4: J five coming around the to know the real is

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Speaker 4: hotly that's right.

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Speaker 5: I appreciate that.

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Speaker 4: Man looking forward to Heckma Harrison house man. A lot

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Speaker 4: of basketball you had going on this?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, sure, yes, a lot of things happening.

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Speaker 4: Who's the best player you saw when the games you

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Speaker 4: were doing this week?

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Speaker 6: Oh man, it's gonna have to be a female man.

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Speaker 6: I've I've called some pretty incredible women's basketball over the

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Speaker 6: last couple of days. The Tamisha Lampkin at the University

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Speaker 6: of North Texas has the w n B. A uh,

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Speaker 6: she's gonna be a picky scouts GMS coming in to

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Speaker 6: see it. Yes, you and t doing anything, So shout

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Speaker 8: This.

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: What's what's learned something every.

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Speaker 5: Day what they're doing, the giggle, shout out.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna get through this. Yoah, we're gonna get.

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Speaker 5: You too.

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Speaker 8: Emphasis in the new I'm talking about by gaming getting

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Speaker 8: the game.

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Speaker 2: I haven't seen that one before New.

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Speaker 4: You know, I got a collection of these. My boy

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Speaker 4: Dennis Stirman worked over there, and boy Sean suls Right

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Speaker 4: used to do some stuff. But it se grads, So yeah, it's.

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Speaker 5: One I half for a minute. Man, it was quality

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Speaker 5: for a minute.

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Speaker 4: I got quality five.

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Speaker 5: Five years. Yeah. So what made you what made you

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Speaker 5: just decide to cold?

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Speaker 9: Was clean?

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Speaker 4: What's clean? Go snatch what's clean?

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Speaker 10: Man?

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Speaker 4: It was clean?

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Speaker 2: Would would you at least take the tag off?

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Speaker 5: That's all just about to say, who's going to expose him?

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Speaker 5: That he got the tag on that? I thought it

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Speaker 5: brand naming, said the man.

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you what, have you got a couple?

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Speaker 9: Actually?

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Speaker 4: Would you go to my way? Man, he's gonna double shape.

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Speaker 4: It's still playing shape.

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Speaker 8: You don't okay, we're talking about people to send you

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Speaker 8: the hoodie, so that way you be the bandwagon next year.

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Speaker 2: Aware, Naddy, you know where he'll where he will do that.

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Speaker 4: I always support your people, supporting people, man, I stuff

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Speaker 4: in my book. I think my daughter got me a case.

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Speaker 4: I'm the K State Dad. We're going to see We're

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Speaker 4: going to see K State TCU Sunday Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Man, are you yeah?

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Speaker 5: You said we like we as in my daughter.

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Speaker 4: My daughter goes to go to K State. So they're

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Speaker 4: gonna play say.

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Speaker 5: I ain't going man, I already knew no way.

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Speaker 2: Hell, he's about to run all the way up the Manhattan.

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Speaker 5: Ain't no way.

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Speaker 4: You ain't doing that? Letting they say no.

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Speaker 5: Way, you're going to Manhattan?

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Speaker 2: What it was gonna be amazed in the spring to

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Speaker 2: pick up a stuff and bring it back.

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Speaker 4: They say, no roads and roads are different up there time.

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Speaker 4: So it's Pro Bowl. Cowboys are five of them in there.

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Speaker 4: Michael Parsons makes it Lamb makes it it right. We

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Speaker 4: had our boy Turt make it. Yeah, Tomas agree with that,

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Speaker 4: the big dog Smith and uh and Brandon Aubrey.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I got it right.

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Speaker 4: They chopped it in half last year, Uber ten. This

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Speaker 4: year they're five.

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Speaker 2: They got it right.

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Speaker 4: Man, got it right.

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Speaker 8: Anybody you think they left off Jordan Lewis, he had

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Speaker 8: a good season, good Pro Bowl worthy.

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Speaker 7: I didn't think he took the ball away enough. I

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Speaker 7: don't think you got so many good Nichols in the NFC.

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Speaker 7: You know Murphy Uh, that the cat from where's he now?

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Speaker 2: Detroit?

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Speaker 7: He played safety and Nickels. I mean there's a lot

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Speaker 7: of casts out there. Jordans had a great year, though,

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Speaker 7: great year.

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Speaker 4: Nick Harris put some of his numbers up there against

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Speaker 4: so many other corners and and they're favorable.

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Speaker 9: I and this is just me.

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up making it

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Speaker 4: because we know every alternate.

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Speaker 7: Yeah yeah so so, but they let you know, right

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Speaker 7: like when they put him out there, they'll let you

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Speaker 7: know that you're the third alternate or the second alternate

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Speaker 7: or something like that.

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Speaker 8: Further along in playoff, people started dropping off in some

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Speaker 5: Know, you don't want to play in the game Super Bowl.

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Speaker 7: So, especially nowadays, it's what the just the games, right,

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Speaker 7: it's not even the like the full game game right

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Speaker 7: Orlando to Hawaii.

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Speaker 8: So do we have any alternates? I've seen sant Frand

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Speaker 8: announced that they had some alternates. The no, sant Fran

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Speaker 8: had alternates, like I think Trip Williams and those Uh,

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Speaker 8: I'm saying cowboys, and so.

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Speaker 5: That's why I'm asking.

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Speaker 4: Announced alternates.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Oh they don't.

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Speaker 5: They don't.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, they said no victories around there.

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Speaker 5: I like that.

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Speaker 4: Hey man, I'm uh, I look at the five and

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Speaker 4: I just say, you know that that's legitimate. Jeorge Lewis,

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Speaker 4: you can make an argument for but for the season

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Speaker 4: that they've had, it's.

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Speaker 5: Hard to get.

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Speaker 2: Dudes, do you still view the Pro Bowl?

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Speaker 8: It?

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Speaker 4: See?

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Speaker 6: It seems like to me the Pro Bowl isn't viewed

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Speaker 6: in the hands of the fans. It used to be

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Speaker 6: one of those awards that you know, people have ten

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Speaker 6: Pro Bowls, blah blah blah. It used to be mad man,

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Speaker 6: that it's not that.

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Speaker 4: Way because because the autin people like I ain't playing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah you got then I feel like people are down

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Speaker 8: But then you have those players that I'm not mad

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Speaker 8: that I really can care less about the Pro Bowl.

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Speaker 8: But then centem based like that's where I missed out

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Speaker 8: on that extra bag right there, So it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 8: I don't know what it takes for me to get voted,

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Speaker 8: So that's not I feel like that's the only upset

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Speaker 8: because the Pro Bowl and the Pro Bowl no more

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Speaker 8: like it's not the competition in fact that you go

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Speaker 8: out there you play dodgeball and stuff like that. But

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Speaker 8: I'm taking that trip, there was ready for it in Orlando.

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Speaker 2: You know, nothing wrong. Respect it ain't Hawaii. Ain't Hawaii.

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Speaker 4: Your family not trying to get that Orlando trying to

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Speaker 4: get that Hawaii trip down there, Matt J. W. Marriott

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Speaker 4: and the resorts with those nice four lagoons that they

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Speaker 5: Man, not like you've been there, Go ahead, talk that tall.

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Speaker 5: I only dream I'm voting dream.

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Speaker 2: Don't, don't, don't. You don't even open that candle.

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Speaker 5: Let's go fish.

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Speaker 2: Bring it back sixteen sixteen seventeen. Man, did I get

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Speaker 4: It happened a long long time ago, unexpectedly, you'll peacock

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Speaker 4: unexpected unexpectedly. But that's when they I took a vacation

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Speaker 4: trip out to Honolulu and then we the Marriotte people,

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Speaker 4: She had to get you to time I was there,

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Speaker 4: that's the JW. Marriott, that's where they have the Pro

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Speaker 4: I ended up getting a little place there, and I

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Speaker 4: I just don't like flying over there. And the problem is,

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Speaker 4: that clock kills me.

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Speaker 10: Man.

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Speaker 7: It was when I flew back from Hawaii. It was

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Speaker 7: that some of the worst jet lag I've ever had.

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Speaker 7: Just coming back from Hawaii was like, man, sleep, you could.

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Speaker 4: Tell the East Coast people because about seven o'clock they

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Speaker 4: were sleeping like it was empty. So that's that's the

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Speaker 4: kind of thing. But but for that is the busiest

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Speaker 4: you can't get over there, families over there, and then

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Speaker 4: then you could wrench your place out because people people

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Speaker 4: you know breaking the Pro Bowl is a special thing

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Speaker 4: and you want to bring your family.

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Speaker 5: What he said, I wouldn't privileged enough to experience those

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Speaker 5: luxurious I'm just going to live through you guys, and

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Speaker 5: you know, take it for what it is. It is

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Speaker 5: what it is, no magical.

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Speaker 4: So so you know this is this could be it

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Speaker 4: for command Date Turpin. You know, Sunday could be his

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Speaker 4: final game and he could be playing for somebody else.

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Speaker 4: In the fact, he's made the Pro Bowl twice in

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Speaker 4: three years.

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Speaker 7: On Pro He's gonna be on a proble they say,

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Speaker 7: back alert, somebody got a bidding ward.

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Speaker 5: Somebody got to pay you. But do you let him leave?

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Speaker 5: Here is the question. I wouldn't you do? Not let

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Speaker 5: that talent leave.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't let it.

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Speaker 8: We talked about it a few shows ago about developing

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Speaker 8: your own talent and going out there and getting one

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Speaker 8: of your hitting gems.

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Speaker 5: Do you just let him walk away?

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Speaker 6: They got to give credit to Will McClay for this,

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Speaker 6: being able to get guys to come from those you know,

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Speaker 5: Dwayne Harris, I'll just Dee Harris.

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Speaker 8: You haven't had a guy that's been that spectacular. And

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Speaker 2: It has to wherever you go.

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Speaker 4: So don't you help me understand? This is a former player.

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Speaker 4: De Harris was catching passes in East Carolina and putting

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Speaker 8: You man, that's that is a good questions.

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Speaker 5: Who really has the answer to that.

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Speaker 8: You come in with these labels, and once you come

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Speaker 8: And then Turt when we talk about them, to go

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Speaker 8: once you get that adrenaline, are rush and you realize

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Speaker 8: I think those players truly embrace that special team role

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Speaker 5: I'm a playmaker. Whenever I get on the field, I'm

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Speaker 8: think it comes to it comes down to pride and

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Speaker 8: it's I think of it in boxing because I'm a

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Speaker 8: not gonna get a loss. You have to earn and

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Speaker 8: prove that you're that guy. So you have to prove

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Speaker 8: if you're not a playmaker there, you might be a

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you gotta it's up to the player.

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Speaker 7: It's up to the player to go out there and

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Speaker 7: remind these guys that I'm more than just what you

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Speaker 7: put me in as a box, as a label. You're

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Speaker 2: And that's the one thing when you talk about.

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Speaker 7: Turping that I'm not so sure he's taking full advantage

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Speaker 7: I get the trick plays as far as reversus and

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Speaker 7: knocked out the box. But when you talk about those

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Speaker 7: of times where we've seen urp as a body catcher,

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Speaker 7: and he's dropping these passes. So if you want to

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Speaker 7: get yourself outside of that label, that that box that

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Speaker 7: they put you in. Its just a specialty. He can

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Speaker 7: only affect the game special team or he can only

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Speaker 7: do you know, big flash play here and there. You

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Speaker 7: want to strive in. And for him, he wants to be,

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Speaker 7: you know, considered a wide receiver, a true rade receiver

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Speaker 7: in his league. I believe he has to get a

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Speaker 7: little bit more consistent as far as catching the football.

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Speaker 7: We know he's explosive, we know with the ball in

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Speaker 7: to get more consistent at those routine catches. And it

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Speaker 7: if you can get that ten yard slint, catch it

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Speaker 4: I feel like he has to get a little bit

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Speaker 5: If that goes back to what I was saying about,

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Speaker 8: You see typically once people get bags, they either coast

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Speaker 5: His shielm hasn't been hit. We've only seen them as

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Speaker 5: So it's about will want to I wait for the

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Speaker 5: Thank you.

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Speaker 4: Heckmharrison, You're true. You're in a player's louns about to

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Speaker 4: you by Aristocrat Gaming. Okay, heck Ma Harrison, Debautrey Moore,

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Speaker 4: got Barry Church, I am new he Scruggs January tenth

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Speaker 4: at Jerry World here in Arlington will be in Goodyear

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Speaker 4: Cotton Bowl. We'll get to Ezekiel Elliot the minute. But

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Speaker 4: but we have we have we have a touch point,

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Speaker 4: and we have a touch point here on the show.

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Speaker 4: As we were watching uh the Bowl game yesterday between

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Speaker 4: Arizona State and Texas down there in Atlanta, GA, the

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Speaker 4: Peach Bowl. Arizona State's got the football, they are driving. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it's a third down. It was targeting, straight up targeting.

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Speaker 4: I think all of us in agreement. We're not big

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Speaker 4: targeting people. But as many calls as we've seen had helmet, hid, helmet, flag,

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Speaker 4: malicious hit should have been a first down for Arizona State.

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Speaker 4: Arizona State having the football and the opportunity to run

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Speaker 4: out the clock, when to get That's.

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Speaker 6: What I thought true it was, But it was one

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Speaker 6: of those calls that you see in the moment and

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Speaker 6: when when I saw the officials huddle. So now, y'all, y'all, hey,

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Speaker 6: I know what you better not be doing. Y'all better

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Speaker 6: not have taken that call. Take that call, that call,

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Speaker 6: you know the call.

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Speaker 9: Me.

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Speaker 2: No, I mean, that's that was wild in real time.

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Speaker 2: That was wild to see.

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Speaker 6: I've watched enough games, guys, I've called enough games where

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Speaker 6: I've seen targeting and somebody's asking me about it, and

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Speaker 6: I'm telling you have to bite my cheek, not to

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Speaker 6: say give my real feelings, Like, dude, this is football

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Speaker 6: twenty years ago, nobody would have stopped the actually wouldn't

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Speaker 6: we continue to.

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Speaker 4: The next play. But now but now it's like we

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Speaker 4: have to super slow mode.

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Speaker 5: We have to look down.

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Speaker 6: We're judging intent on intent on bad passes from quarterbacks,

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Speaker 6: leaving guys out to dry. And you got Bury Church

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Speaker 6: sitting there salivating. Thank you, Lord, thank you Lord, beg

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Speaker 6: you Lord, here you come. Oh, we've been to get

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Speaker 6: this bag on you. And again that it is to

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Speaker 6: me in college. You see, I've seen less egregious things

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Speaker 6: happen in college, and guys get ejected for that. I mean,

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Speaker 6: if that was a kid from Arizona State that didn't

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Speaker 6: play the first half because in the Big twelve championship

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Speaker 6: he blitzed and hit a guy, it's just a blitz.

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Speaker 6: And it's things like that, and when you see like

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Speaker 6: it changes at the last minute. And I don't want look,

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Speaker 6: I don't want to go into what the motive was.

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Speaker 6: If they were trying to push things forward for Texas whatever,

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Speaker 6: you know, the you know the I'll let you go

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Speaker 6: ahead and go because I'm trying to get.

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Speaker 5: My baby specials. Hey, I understand what he said. My

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Speaker 5: babies are young. Eventually they might get over there.

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Speaker 8: But hey, everybody knows there's certain teams that always get

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Speaker 8: a little sprinkle on the cup.

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Speaker 5: K what they say?

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Speaker 8: Parents say, Hey, we don't have a favorite, but you

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Speaker 8: know Texas is one of those collegiate schools they get

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Speaker 8: that favorite. Bama they get that typically get that swing.

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Speaker 8: And with that being said, can we say it was

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Speaker 8: a bell? How can we agree that it was that?

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Speaker 4: Hey man, this is this is something we have seen

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Speaker 4: happen in Texas before where you're just like, how I

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Speaker 4: was there at the Big Toal championship game when they

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Speaker 4: played Nebraska and the Donoquans who put on a ship

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Speaker 4: Colt mcot gonna throw the ball out of bounds. Clock

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Speaker 4: run out? They talking about, now there's a second left,

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Speaker 4: ain't no second left? The clock ran out? It ran out. Nope, nope,

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Speaker 4: there's one second left there run out, justin Tucker. They

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Speaker 4: kicked the field goal and then Texas win the big

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Speaker 4: top championship that could play Alabama the National championship game.

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Speaker 4: It's like and Bo Polini and his brother were they

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Speaker 4: were cussing up a storm light. They were right then

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Speaker 4: I remember another time it's Vince Young's here when they

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Speaker 4: end up win the National Championship game. They were dead

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Speaker 4: to write dying in Kansas. All of a sudden the

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Speaker 4: call comes out there. Mark Mangino say, everybody know what

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Speaker 4: this is about? Three letters bcs. The next thing you know,

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Speaker 4: they fine, Mark man Gino. Texas ended up winning the game,

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Speaker 4: won the National championship. So for people who say, wait

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Speaker 4: a minute, this is a blue blood call, blue blood's call,

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Speaker 4: they get calls that was a blue blood call all

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Speaker 4: day for them, sit there.

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Speaker 5: And sit there and say that is it's not targeted

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Speaker 5: even with your man.

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Speaker 4: The man's helmet hit first t other man's. The man

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Speaker 4: was laid out on the field for another three minutes.

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Speaker 7: That's what the safety of the players, and that this

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Speaker 7: man got targeted, laid on the field for three more

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Speaker 7: extra minutes.

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Speaker 2: Can can I just say, bar Church, you may not

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Speaker 2: be the person to argue this is.

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Speaker 8: You.

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Speaker 2: You may not be the guy.

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Speaker 9: For Gratu riding here at the university, but if I

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Speaker 9: had to pick the gun, that is.

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Speaker 5: But that was a bull job.

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Speaker 4: I was like, whoa, that was the thing. And and

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Speaker 4: I always I don't know about you. I enjoy searching

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Speaker 4: social media from guys who played, and the overwhelming thing

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Speaker 4: I saw from guys who played defensive guys were like, Dan,

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Speaker 4: ain't targeting, that's not targeting, and people who who were like,

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Speaker 4: hey man, we see what it is. We know that's

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Speaker 4: not what it is.

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Speaker 5: So overwhelming.

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Speaker 4: You had the player see then overwhelming, you have people

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Speaker 4: who covered the sports and just it was just unless

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Speaker 4: you were a Texas fan. And even Clarence Hill, the

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Speaker 4: Texas fan, said yeah, it was targeting. That that part

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Speaker 4: of it was frustrat Because I was sitting there watching

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Speaker 4: with my kids. I was like, first down, Oh yeah,

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Speaker 4: I was, this is just news was over.

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Speaker 5: I was like the greatest comeback I was.

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Speaker 8: I was excited for the running back that Hey Dallas people,

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Speaker 8: I know it's above my pay grade, but that by

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Speaker 8: that boy earned some money last night.

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Speaker 5: That running back you sketch the bull wait a.

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Speaker 8: Seconds on the boot because he scared you and thought

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Speaker 8: that it almost helped.

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Speaker 4: You about the scotto gonna be.

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Speaker 8: He st When I was watching him, I said, oh my,

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Speaker 8: this boy is a more polished version follow me Rex

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Speaker 8: Burke head.

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Speaker 5: That man is talented, can do it all.

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Speaker 8: No, and then the fact that he he told you

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Speaker 8: Rex Burke he and I said, polish version of Rick

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Speaker 8: Burke Riggins.

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Speaker 2: What I said, who is scatter Boo is Toby Gearhard.

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Speaker 5: That's that's who he is.

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Speaker 4: Your boy told me that's who That's who he's Toby gear.

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Speaker 5: That is who cut out the.

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Speaker 4: White running backs together.

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Speaker 5: Put him in the pol put him in there together.

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Speaker 5: But what.

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Speaker 6: I'm going on the I was looking at him, and

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Speaker 6: I'm because I know everybody's on this train about drafting him.

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Speaker 6: It's generous. The five to eleven is very generous. Five

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Speaker 6: eleven two, Okay, So I'm going there when I look

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Speaker 6: at running backs, running backs and just the food chain

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Speaker 6: right now, ashing gent and even though like he's another

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Speaker 6: one of those small running backs that I think once

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Speaker 6: he gets to the NFL, them big arms, punt that

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Speaker 6: peanut til my punch, it's gonnay, it's gonna be legit

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Speaker 6: a change for him as well. I just look, my

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Speaker 6: thinking is when it comes down to running backs and

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Speaker 6: the one that we need here, we need a workhrd

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Speaker 6: bell cow guy that's gonna be every single down.

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Speaker 4: You didn't see that in this last game.

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Speaker 6: I saw I saw it against I saw it against

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Speaker 6: Texas's defense, which those guys are big and running. But

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Speaker 6: I just how seventeen games seventeen games of it. I

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Speaker 6: don't know durability, things like that.

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Speaker 5: We've got.

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Speaker 6: We've got a one year sample size of what he

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Speaker 6: did seventeen hundred yards this season. I think he was

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Speaker 6: a Sacramento they were saying before, and I may be

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Speaker 6: wrong before this, but either way, I mean, I'm not

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Speaker 6: gonna give him a first round grade, second round grade,

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Speaker 6: so I'm going third.

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Speaker 10: I no, no.

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Speaker 8: I said, this was your insurance policy if you can't

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Speaker 8: get genty first round pick. But if you can't you

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Speaker 8: this is gonna be your workhorse. And he showed me one.

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Speaker 8: I was like, all right, man, you did all this

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Speaker 8: talking this week. I want to see what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 8: And in the first quarter they came under they sit down,

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Speaker 8: second quarter sit down. He did get a little tender

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Speaker 8: and start yelling at his office line he did. But

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Speaker 8: what but what I seen though, he did what most

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Speaker 8: people do. Tom Brady, all the guys in the past.

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Speaker 5: He talked his talk.

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Speaker 8: But he came back out there said oh, he started

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Speaker 8: lolling him to sleep and hit him and then started throwing.

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Speaker 8: And then the boy was hurt and said, hey, coach,

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Speaker 8: I'm still inting there, let me grit.

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Speaker 5: Down, back down.

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Speaker 8: Tuddy built the minimum whoever, So like I said, he

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Speaker 8: showed you just the playmakability and then just being a

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Speaker 8: leader that is the grit. And that's what I think

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Speaker 8: the Cowboys need right there. It's not just having a

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Speaker 8: talented running back, but somebody that actually has that grit

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Speaker 8: in that let's go. And he showed that he has

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Speaker 8: that dollar so he might be able to be a

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Speaker 8: steal for someone.

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Speaker 4: I thought Arizona State, like all those teams that had

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Speaker 4: time off, they were they were slow out the gate.

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Speaker 4: Of course it's the other teams.

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Speaker 10: I mean.

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Speaker 4: Them got bust in the mouth real quick, but they

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Speaker 4: came back. But I look at him in terms of

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Speaker 4: I don't think of him as a workhorse back. I

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Speaker 4: think all these mis pretty much going to be in

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Speaker 4: a combo type situation. And I'm thinking, with the amount

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Speaker 4: of running backs coming out there for the Cowboys, if

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Speaker 4: they drafted two guys, I would not be opposed to it.

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Speaker 4: I would not be opposed to that.

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Speaker 8: You have to draft two guys because if we don't

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Speaker 8: know what's gonna happen with Rico after that, or I mean,

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Speaker 8: you're you're saying you're gone, but like for him to

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Speaker 8: be undrafted, like you said, develop your own talent, you

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Speaker 8: got to keep somebody here and you need an insurance policy.

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Speaker 8: So you keep Rico, and then you still draft two

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Speaker 8: guys because like you said, neither one. I wouldn't say

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Speaker 8: he wasn't going to be my every down back, but

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Speaker 8: you pair him up against with Rico and then you

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Speaker 8: get your little another scap back out there. Now you're

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Speaker 8: talking about you cooking with grits. Like Grandma used to say,

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Speaker 8: we're working this stove is warn baby.

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Speaker 5: So that's why I think didn't right now.

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Speaker 6: I'm sorry, disrespect. Let's see what the ben has. I'm

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Speaker 6: with you'all.

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Speaker 2: I'm with you.

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Speaker 6: I just feel like, regardless of what you bring in

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Speaker 6: and what you saw from this season from Rico Dow,

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Speaker 6: ric may have opportunities out there. We were just talking

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Speaker 6: about Cavante Turpin, he'll have opportunities as well.

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Speaker 2: I think you have to have a guy that.

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Speaker 6: Can As far as the NFC East is concerned, you

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Speaker 6: need a guy that could carry that rock. You have

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Speaker 4: That's what we say, requested man, because.

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Speaker 7: Like you'll think he's somebody on snag like when he

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Speaker 5: I'm a I'm gonna be the seller in on there.

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Speaker 5: No no, like know what, like what when I saw him?

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Speaker 8: What did you do that says hey, I need to

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Speaker 8: pick you up like Clais Campbell got the guy when

748
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Speaker 8: you say, hey we need him in on this playoff run. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: they signed you expecting like and this is no shot.

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Speaker 8: At Rico shout out to him for doing what he did.

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Speaker 8: Missed a thousand yard running back, but they signed him

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Speaker 8: with intentions of him taking over for him and doing

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Speaker 8: the one two punch with Zeke being the emphasis.

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Speaker 5: And he wasn't the emphasis. So what team?

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. Yards, four touchdowns.

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Speaker 6: Isel Elliott came into the league twenty sixteen. Is nine

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Speaker 6: year career. I'm telling you, when you first saw him

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Speaker 6: coming out of Ohio State. You thought you had those

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Speaker 6: delusions of brand injury. You told you yourself he was

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Speaker 6: gonna be one of those goats. He's fortieth in all

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Speaker 6: time rushing. Yeah, okay, I mean it didn't end the

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Speaker 6: way it started. I started to see right around twenty

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Speaker 6: twenty one. I think his last thousand yard season was

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Speaker 6: when you started to see the decline and like what

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Speaker 6: you say, father, father time and then undefeated. And at

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Speaker 6: the same time, you know he gutted out some injuries.

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Speaker 6: I heard you say plenty of times. They never remember that.

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Speaker 4: They don't remember that, remember that.

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Speaker 6: So the couple they put they brought Tony Pollard in,

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Speaker 6: They did the thunder lightning deal for a little bit

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Speaker 6: and then they said, you know what, we're good with

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Speaker 6: the lightning. And then next day, you know, zek is

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Speaker 6: out of here. Man. This was a failed experiment. And really,

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Speaker 6: you know, two hundred and twenty six yards twenty six we.

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Speaker 4: Was way off.

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Speaker 2: I think I said him, like eight tubs.

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Speaker 4: You you had him, you had.

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Speaker 5: Predictions. Yet, let's see break it out.

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Speaker 4: Don't you ask for it, because the buckets of in tekenty.

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Speaker 5: Will burn you. Yeah, Well, let's call Timmer fifth the

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Speaker 5: tickets in the.

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Speaker 2: Yards yard, evil.

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Speaker 4: Person, Mary had five hundred and twenty five.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, okay, I was a low sixty five closing. Somebody

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Speaker 16: put seven hundred, seven hundred.

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Speaker 2: Clubs I did.

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Speaker 11: And what did you end up? What it is?

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Speaker 2: Six break?

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Speaker 11: So talk.

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Speaker 5: Break another one.

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Speaker 4: That's all right, But it was all wrong, all wrong.

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Speaker 4: It was all wrong, man. Then you know so underneath

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Speaker 4: here after that till we had we had Dak with

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Speaker 4: a touchdown. I had touchdowns and picks. I had thirty

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Speaker 4: three touchdowns, eleven picks. Church you had thirty five touchdowns,

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Speaker 4: eight picks. Heck, you had thirty six touchdowns fourteen picks.

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Speaker 4: He ain't throw nothing closer than none of that touchdown.

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Speaker 8: Man, all I'm gonna say is Barry's over here. Sounded

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Speaker 8: like a Kevin Hart mean right now, they got me

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Speaker 8: a lot.

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Speaker 4: Going into that Cleveland game. We had Tyler Geyton how

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Speaker 4: much help we had that? Then under Ricodalald we questioned

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Speaker 4: said Batman or Robin.

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Speaker 2: Which was that.

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Speaker 4: Going into the Cleveland game? And then we had Ferguson

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Speaker 4: and Cooks kind of like you know, which one of

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Speaker 4: the two guys is going to step up and help out?

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Speaker 8: I was wrong.

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Speaker 5: Another one. Yeah, man, you need to just turn on

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Speaker 5: that rustead of song. This is mine sorry for That

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Speaker 5: was twenty four.

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Speaker 2: That was hard.

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Speaker 7: Will say this about z though, when I was there

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Speaker 7: with him his rookie year, when he stepped on to

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Speaker 7: the scene, Man, he's explosive, and I thought, you know,

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Speaker 7: we had what we had in the mark and I'm like,

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Speaker 7: ain't nothing going.

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Speaker 4: Marco was we needed somebody else like that. And I

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Speaker 4: don't know if he's gonna be able to do that

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Speaker 4: because in camp he's started a little slow, had heavy

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Speaker 4: feet out there, and I was like.

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Speaker 7: Man, the fourth pick overall on this dube man. But

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Speaker 7: the man shot out of a cannon when the regular

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Speaker 7: season started and.

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Speaker 11: He literally carried it.

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Speaker 4: After that Giant game, he carried us.

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Speaker 8: But said earlier in the show about Turt, it depends

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Speaker 8: on when you get that bad what happens.

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Speaker 5: Will you elevator or will you start to see a dcline?

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Speaker 5: He was mad.

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Speaker 8: The question, I guess goes down to, did the Cowboys

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Speaker 8: pay him too late or they should have paid him earlier.

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Speaker 8: If they had paid him earlier, will we not have

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Speaker 8: a Zeke that went to Cowbo that set out for

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Speaker 8: most of the year and did the Le'Veon Bell experiment.

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Speaker 8: And then from there it was like, hey, now we

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Speaker 8: just see that snowball effect of him going down. If

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Speaker 8: you would have gave him his bag earlier, he'd have

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Speaker 8: still been here. He'd just been playing from the start

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Speaker 8: of the season. He could have got the ball rolling.

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Speaker 8: And we're talking about the changing your career potentially, so

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Speaker 8: that bag is different when the timing of it. And

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Speaker 8: so hopefully we learn from experience with a lot of

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Speaker 8: people that's coming up about to get this bag right now,

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Speaker 8: don't delay.

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Speaker 5: M M. But that's just my opinion. I don't know.

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Speaker 4: That's why you're here. You're here, you're here for your opinion.

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Speaker 4: Here somebody had questioned whether or not Ezekiel Elliott should

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Speaker 4: be in the Cowboy.

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Speaker 5: Ring of Honor.

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Speaker 2: Wow, what happens?

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Speaker 6: What happens to guys at the end of their career,

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Speaker 6: those questions start to come up. Immediately you start asking

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Speaker 6: a question about the Ring of Honor, Then you started

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Speaker 6: the next question is hall of Fame? All of those

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Speaker 6: questions start to come up. I mean because now some

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Speaker 6: people you frown on it, but you have a Terrell

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Speaker 6: Davis with seven thousand yards, it's.

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Speaker 2: In the Hall of Fame, that is true.

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Speaker 4: Terrell Davis MVP in League Rush for two thousand yards.

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Speaker 4: He did Super Bowl MVP, two Super Bowl rings, seven

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Speaker 4: thousand yards. And I don't know if he was I

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Speaker 4: don't know. I mean, I don't know if he's all

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Speaker 4: decade or not. I don't know if he's all decade.

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Speaker 4: But when you look at impact and you can say

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Speaker 4: seven thousand yards, you're legitimate. But when you talk about accomplishments,

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Speaker 4: and I say this because I know TDT and I

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Speaker 4: did a radio show together, I will talk with him

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Speaker 4: about these things when he was trying to get in

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Speaker 4: the hold of these are things that are getting used

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Speaker 4: against you. And when you talk about impact, not many

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Speaker 4: people walking around with his resume of accomplishment two grand

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Speaker 4: in a year and MVP is a running back. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I don't know how long.

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Speaker 5: How long did TV excuse my ignorance? But maybe that's a.

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Speaker 4: Eight, well more than nine, very short. And that first

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Speaker 5: Wasn't that exactly he was?

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Speaker 8: As I said, he got it out the MUK He's

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Speaker 8: And so I guess the reason that I asked that

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Speaker 8: is because when does factor in play. Per ratio becomes

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Speaker 8: a factor because we're talking about somebody like Aaron Donald

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Speaker 8: who could.

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Speaker 5: Well, obviously he's to go. He's a bad example, I'm

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Speaker 5: using him.

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Speaker 8: But the fact that he could have kept building along

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Speaker 8: his career already impressive resume and kept going. And the

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Speaker 8: fact that TV said I'm shutting it down earlier and

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Speaker 8: then like you said, the first first.

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Speaker 5: Year, you're a true special team guy.

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Speaker 8: So you only got so he played seven to eight years,

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Speaker 8: you only have truly six five years of true worth.

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Speaker 5: The work of him doing that at that position.

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Speaker 4: Frank Gore was someone that a Hall of Fame vote

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Speaker 4: had talked to me about Terrell Davis. Frank Gordon, he

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Speaker 4: said in his opinion, He said, Frank Gorge just played

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Speaker 4: a long time and became a stack pilot. Yeah, versus

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Speaker 4: the what is it impact of what Terrell Davis did?

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Speaker 4: Two thousand yards MVP, three years, four time All Pro

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Speaker 4: Super Bowl MVP. The first when they won one fifty

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Speaker 4: three l Wait finally won because he got a run game,

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Speaker 4: and then they backed it up the next year when

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Speaker 4: he was the MVP and won it again. Just like hey,

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Speaker 4: when he was here, homeboy took the Broncos to a

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Speaker 4: level they had not been before. And a Hall of

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Speaker 4: Fame quarterback of John Elway, who went three Super Bowls

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Speaker 4: before couldn't win them. Then he's winning them because he

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Speaker 4: had a run game and he was a dominant performing

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Speaker 4: a true difference maker.

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Speaker 6: Now, I mean what you what you're talking about as

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Speaker 6: far as impact, did I look at guys like Priest Holmes,

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Speaker 6: you know, in that same vein, in the impact that

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Speaker 6: they had for the teams that they played for, and

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Speaker 6: do they get that opportunity? And that's why all them

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Speaker 6: saying like it gets to the end of the career

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Speaker 6: and then you start looking at the body of work

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Speaker 6: and things like impact starts to man put Darren Woolson

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Speaker 6: in the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 5: While we're doing all.

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Speaker 4: That's a that's a conversation four of us. Did he

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Speaker 4: make the finals?

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Speaker 5: He did?

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Speaker 11: He did?

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Speaker 5: He did what they said vote. I put it out there.

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Speaker 8: My vote has been casting when they're sitting there and

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Speaker 8: they ask you who you think, Hey, but he would.

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Speaker 4: And the beauty of it is, you know, there's there's

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Speaker 4: not the safety competition anymore. Rodney Harrison and not there.

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Speaker 4: So now he's the only one so he's definitely worthy

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Speaker 4: of the ballot. And I hope we don't get all

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Speaker 4: right man. Fun show is always all right.

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Speaker 5: Hell.

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Speaker 4: Appreciate you, Yes, sir Deep appreciate you. Church looking good,

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Speaker 4: appreciate you.

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