1 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: It's now time for Cannabis Talk one oh one with Blue, 2 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: Joe Grande and Mark and Craig Wasserman the Pot Brothers 3 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: at Law. We're the world's number one podcast for everything cannabis. 4 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Cannabis Talk one on one. My 5 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: name is Blue. Alongside of me or the world famous 6 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: Pot Brothers at Law and Mr Joe Grande and you 7 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: announced into the greatest cannabis show in the world the universe. 8 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: I say it's definitely in California. Oh you know what, 9 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: It's across all platform there it is guys everywhere for 10 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 1: you guys today Joe let him know what's going down. Well, 11 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: thank you for listening to our podcast, Cannabis Talk one 12 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:45,560 Speaker 1: oh one on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcast 13 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcast. Make sure you check 14 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: out our i G pages for the daily news is 15 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: of Curse of course, learned the poem, the beautiful poem 16 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: that Mark has been doing on a daily basis over there, 17 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: and learned the script and a bunch more on our 18 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: personal lives. You can follow us at Cannabis Talk one 19 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 1: oh one, at Pot Underscore Brothers Underscore at Underscore Law 20 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: and Mark's personal pages at wass Law. Well, Big Brothers 21 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 1: is at wash Law Dog and my man Blue is 22 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: at one Christopher right, well, I am at Joe Grande 23 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: fifty two, and you guys as were all at home 24 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 1: doing this of course from the house as we're still 25 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: locked up and hopefully everyone's safe and sound out there 26 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 1: as the numbers keep going higher and higher. Today we 27 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: have a special guest with us from her home, and 28 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: we have Stormy Simon, who was named the CEO of 29 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: High Times Corp. In January, and in April she announced 30 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: she was gonna be running for the Democrat for Utah 31 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: State House of Representative District one. And now we have 32 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: breaking news. We see this last night, we see something 33 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: today that they name a new ceo. What the hell 34 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: is going on? Stormy? You're no longer the CEO of 35 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: High Times. And it's just crazy that they under your watch, 36 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: that you know, they just a quired two big deals 37 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: doing the deal with Harvest Health. Even the dogs are 38 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: barking about it. It's such a big who let the 39 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 1: dogs are right, perfect perfect timing. Ye do they step up? 40 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: Even the dogs are sto me. It's like, what the 41 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: hell is going on around here? You just did these 42 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 1: big deals with Harvest, Health and Recreation for like eighty 43 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: million in stock, picking up thirteen dispensaries. They only put 44 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: about five meals down. And then in March on then 45 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,839 Speaker 1: we heard High Times about humbled Heritage ink to start 46 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: throwing harvesting. This is all under your watch as CEO. 47 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 1: And now you're not so explain how this is all 48 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 1: going down. Now, I'm not going to explain it. Did 49 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: I read right? You're still helping with them. I'm not 50 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: gonna explain that either. You know, let me ask you this. 51 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. How did you did you 52 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: enjoy working with High Times? You know it was all right, 53 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: you know, okay, moving with an experience. Was it your 54 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: decision to leave High Times? You know, it's probably best 55 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: And I think we've got a couple of lawyers on 56 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:21,519 Speaker 1: the line, so it's probably best. You know, I opted out. 57 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 1: I opted, I gave the out, Like hey, I just 58 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 1: left High Times and I gave the out. But um, nice. Now, 59 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: well let's talk about this, stormy. What are you going 60 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: to be what? What do you have planned right now 61 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 1: for your career? Yes, let's talk about your career. What 62 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: you're moving forward? Well, first of all, I'm not in 63 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: my home. I'm in like the desert, in a trailer. 64 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: So I've taken isolation to a new level. Um, I'm 65 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: on a piece of land that I own where we're 66 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: building a greenhouse and kind of doing what I think 67 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: the most of the world is doing and nestling in 68 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: a little bit. So I think that's next for a while. Um. 69 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: In Utah, we have opened up some of the businesses 70 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: pretty loosely, actually, and so it'll be nice to see 71 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: what happens there. But you know, my next steps are 72 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: to enjoy this time, this down time in a way 73 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: that I haven't been able to. I have been quarantined 74 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 1: since the second week of March, and it's been busy 75 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: since then, and I'm looking forward to not being busy 76 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 1: and to a few other things on the horizon, including 77 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 1: running for state legislature. Well that's a that's amazing, and 78 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: you've had You've had a very busy life. You certainly 79 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 1: deserve downtime like this. So but let's get into you know, 80 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: some of it that people may not might not know 81 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 1: about you. You began, uh, if correct me if I'm wrong, 82 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:47,239 Speaker 1: you were temping at I think overstock dot com long ago. 83 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 1: You didn't have a college degree. Talk about how you 84 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 1: started that and worked your way up. Yeah, Well, a 85 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: lot of it is timing and then a lot of 86 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: it is smart. I walked into Overstock in two thousand one, 87 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 1: the company was at eighteen million, and I found myself, 88 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: um in an environment where, you know, you didn't have 89 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: to have a college degree, because nobody knew what the 90 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: hell detail was or what was really going to open next. 91 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: And I felt really comfortable there. I've always been scrappy 92 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 1: and competent, but there I felt equally as smart. For 93 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: whatever reason, right, nobody knew what was happening, and I 94 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: was able to dig in and have good ideas and 95 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 1: see them through. UM. And it was an epic fifteen 96 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: year ride. How long did it take you from the 97 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: beginning to when you were actually named CEO of Overstocked, Well, 98 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: I was president, Um, it was about twelve years. About 99 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: twelve years so started as attempt went on. I had 100 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 1: many careers at Overstock, from you know, branding the organization 101 00:05:54,040 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: to the customer service and CMO and operationally and ultimately 102 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: culminating in president and on the board of directors. So 103 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 1: and then we watch, We'll go ahead, Joe. Now I 104 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 1: was gonna say, so you really actually worked your way 105 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 1: up from the bottom to the top, which is pretty 106 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: amazing for someone to start in a position and then 107 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 1: literally go through several different you know, titles to end 108 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: up becoming the president of the company. And what what 109 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 1: year did you leave again? And then that's when you 110 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: took up a lot of cannabis causes, I think, is 111 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 1: that is that true? That's right? You know, I was 112 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: in Utah and fifteen years is a long time, much 113 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 1: longer than three or four months, but fifteen years is 114 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:47,239 Speaker 1: a long time. But I was ready for a change. Um. 115 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: I had done just about everything there, and the thought 116 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:53,719 Speaker 1: of becoming CEO or chairman of the board or whatever 117 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: the next step within the organization was a nice thought. 118 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: But what was happening was the end of a pro ambition. 119 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: And everybody remembers reading their history books about you know, 120 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: the prohibition for alcohol and how you know, people had 121 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,679 Speaker 1: to step up and make things happen. And I knew 122 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: that something big was coming when Denver went recreational for 123 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: adult use, and I was living in a state at 124 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:24,119 Speaker 1: this very conservative and had you know, been passionate about 125 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,720 Speaker 1: cannabis for most of my life, and I felt like 126 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 1: if I didn't participate, I would always run wonder why not? 127 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: And I do that often, you know, I wonder if 128 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: I'll regret it if I don't do something that's exactly right. 129 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: You never know if you don't try. So you try, 130 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: and then sometimes it works out great and sometimes it doesn't. 131 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: But in this particular case, I decided I wanted to participate, 132 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 1: and I didn't know what that meant. I didn't even 133 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: know what it meant. I had no idea what cannabis 134 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: you know, state by state laws being federally legal. I 135 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: didn't even know what the medicine really meant. I didn't 136 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 1: know what cannabis as a medicine meant. So I moved 137 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: to Denver and took up a gig with a facility 138 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: that had a ninety thousand square foot grow and two 139 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 1: medicinal only dispensaries excuse me um. So I was able 140 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: to go in every day and learn about the plant 141 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: on agricultural level level. And I was taught by the 142 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: young people that had moved to Colorado for their own illnesses, 143 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: young kids to twenty five year old kids that said 144 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I have Crohn's disease. But instead of buy 145 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: into the pharmaceutical system, I'm going to move to Colorado, 146 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: grow my own medicine and figure it out. And those 147 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: were kind of my first mentors in the industry. Um. 148 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 1: And then meeting all the patients with two just medical 149 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: only dispensaries was really eye opening. Um. After doing that 150 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: for a while, I realized the world was much bigger. 151 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: The cannabis world was much bigger, and there was so 152 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: much that I didn't know. Um. And then I started 153 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 1: poking around a little bit. Do it a little bit here, 154 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: do it a little bit. They're visiting the different states, Um, 155 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: you know, getting involved in initiatives that interested me. And 156 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: you know it led me to today. It led you 157 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,960 Speaker 1: to a couple of cannabis events. I think that's where 158 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: we actually met you. Yeah, I met you. I think 159 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: for the first time. I was trying to remember this, Mark. 160 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: I think it was at Women Women above Ground Women. Yes, 161 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: very nice of you to show up there, Mark, hold on, 162 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,719 Speaker 1: I gotta get my phone. Plus was he wearing his 163 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 1: high hills that day? He was so kind, He was 164 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: so kind. I'm sure he had an alternative motive for 165 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: being there, not only did you make a friend. But 166 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: I remember all of us, meaning you at the Long 167 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:57,239 Speaker 1: Beach event at the State of Mary, Yes, State of Cannabis, 168 00:09:57,360 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: and after hearing you were to come on, I was like, 169 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: way to why does that name sound familiar? Although I 170 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 1: did confuse you, I'm not gonna lie with the porn 171 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 1: star named Stormy Daniels. I'm sorry for saying that in 172 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 1: a previous podcast, I said it a bunch of times 173 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: where they were busting my balls about it, so I 174 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,599 Speaker 1: want to say too directly, I'm sorry for doing that. 175 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 1: But you know, by the end of the day before yeah, 176 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: and I was like, wait a minute, Stormy was so awesome, 177 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: You're so nice. That was before you got the gig 178 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 1: at high times, and when we even reported when you 179 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: even got the gig at high times, we actually reported 180 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:31,959 Speaker 1: that on our show, and we're like, oh my god, 181 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: this girl is awesome. This woman's phenomenal. And Mark was 182 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: ready with about you. We're all saying great things. So 183 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 1: it's just funny how you go in such a short 184 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: term there and now waiting for the next big thing. 185 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: I want to get to this short term that you 186 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: had there, though some big things happened in that short term, 187 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: which is you know, the first one, which is getting 188 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: Humbled Heritage eek. Were did you help pivot in a 189 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: direction for them to move from just a magazine to 190 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: actually buying something that's gonna actually put out a harvest. 191 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 1: So I walked through a little bit of the time. 192 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: At high times we were in the office, and then 193 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:15,719 Speaker 1: we weren't because of the COVID breakout right right that 194 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: I knew you guys do this. What's that? Was that 195 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: up in the Hollywood the Hollywood facility upstairs on the 196 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: Big Bell Hills they moved No, not the not the 197 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: not the old building, that new building. Yeah no, no, 198 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 1: but wasn't that building? Okay, you guys moved h again. Nice. 199 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: So so did you have a heavy hand in that 200 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 1: and that move storey or was that somebody else is 201 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 1: doing what moved the first one that happened last month, 202 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: which was buying Humble Heritage, Inc. And starting to harvest cannabis, Like, 203 00:11:56,880 --> 00:12:01,560 Speaker 1: were you involved in that acquisition? First of all? That 204 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: was an um owen harvest. Yes, I was at the 205 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: company when that press release went out. Got you all right, 206 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: See I don't want to poke at me. Come on, 207 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: as a woman, as a woman, I've learned how to 208 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:26,839 Speaker 1: say no about a million differently. You can keep from coming, 209 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 1: Joe Grande, I've got as long as you got, Stormy. 210 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: I've been waiting for the lawyer to kick in and 211 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: start doing their job and start asking you. Because I'm 212 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 1: not a lawyer. I just want to pry and I 213 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: want to try to figure out a way to get out. 214 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: You're a free to pry. I'm sure you've been told 215 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: no a million times by women as well. I want 216 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: to talk about, Joe, Let's talk about something important, like, uh, Stormy, 217 00:12:55,160 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: you are on the advisory board of I remember of candidates? Yes, right, 218 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: and so what's cann of kids? Let's talk about because 219 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:07,599 Speaker 1: that with kids, and let's talk about that. So this 220 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 1: is why Mark and I stayed in touch. We just 221 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: made friends so easy, you know. And I'm going to 222 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:18,839 Speaker 1: be your friend too. I'm just trying to do my 223 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: job and get mad at me. Please, I'm not made. 224 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: I've heard I've heard that. Okay, interesting you say Canna kids. 225 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 1: That was my next step. Um. I met Tracy Ryan. 226 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: We became friends, and that's when I really started learning 227 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 1: about the medicine and the importance of the end of 228 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,559 Speaker 1: a prohibition. I'm a big believer in the civil rights 229 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 1: use of the plant. I'm a big believer in people 230 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: being able to own plants and not pharmaceutical companies. And 231 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 1: I'm a big believer in plant medicine. And UH to 232 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:58,199 Speaker 1: encounter Tracy and her family's story and meet Sophie and 233 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 1: learn about some of these just heroic moves that many 234 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 1: moms have made. But in this case, Tracy Ryan, UM, 235 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: you know, the calling got much bigger. And that's when 236 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 1: I joined her advisory board and have been there since. Yeah, 237 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: we've always we've always made it admission to over the years, 238 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,840 Speaker 1: We've had on so many UH people with kids. I 239 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: think we had Candy kids on UM. Just the stories 240 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: of the healing nature of cannabis. And we were talking 241 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: about this this the other day about anecdotal evidence, and 242 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: that's exactly what every single the thousands of cases that 243 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: we know about, all of them where someone was cured 244 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 1: with cannabis in one way or another. Well, there it is, guys. 245 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: We'll be right back after this break. Welcome back to 246 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: Cannabis Talk one on one. On the show today, we 247 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: have a special guest with us, of course, the former 248 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 1: CEO of High Times and overstock dot Com. Stormy Simon, 249 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: who announced in April she's running as a Democrat for 250 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: Utah State House of Representatives, How did that all come 251 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: about to be? Like Stormy is going in her head? 252 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: You know what I want to give back because we 253 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: just heard your staying in a trailer right now on 254 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: this land that you own in Utah. So you obviously 255 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: reside in Utah as you have land, but why get 256 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: into politics now. I'm actually in Arizona, I have land there, 257 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: but why get into politics now? It's a really good 258 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: question because I'm not a politician, and I've never considered 259 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: myself to be a politician. But what the cannabis industry 260 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: has taught me UM in many different levels, not just 261 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: about the plant, but about the many experiences that I've had, 262 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: is it's very important to raise your hand. You know, 263 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: our government today. I the first time I registered, I 264 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: was a Republican. I considered myself such today I consider 265 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 1: myself a California Republican and a Utah Democrat. And I 266 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: think it really depends on your zip code as to 267 00:15:56,440 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: where you are. A Utah Democrat that totes guns, um, 268 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: which sports your points in Utah. But um, so to 269 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: be to say, like what made me get into politics, 270 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: it's really what's happening in the world that's compelling me 271 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: to raise my hand to do it because you can 272 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 1: sit by and watch things happen. And I think, you know, 273 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: as the only woman on the show and a lot 274 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: of times the only woman in the room, how are 275 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 1: the laws in you talk? I haven't looked us up 276 00:16:26,040 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: lately for cannabis. Cannabis, Um, they're tight. You know it's 277 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 1: medicinal only, but there's a lot of things that have 278 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 1: to be worked out. Um, but it's tight. It's not 279 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: a free flowing market. It it's a very a lot 280 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: of it. Is it a good it's a good old 281 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 1: it's a good old market, huh like like good old boys, 282 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: good old boy market. I mean, is in every market 283 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: the good old boy market forgot? I didn't want to 284 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 1: say it. See, that's why we could be friends like 285 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: you and Mark are two, because I think up from 286 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: the women as well, a good old girl market. It's 287 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 1: hard entrenched. It's not necessarily you know, male female, although 288 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: I know that exists a lot, But I think it's 289 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: the people who are in in control most likely are 290 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: the ones who are getting the business. Although I haven't 291 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: dove much into Utah cannabis loss, I really couldn't say 292 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 1: I was specifically talking about Mormon when I said that, Like, 293 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: you know, it's a very Mormon, you know place. So 294 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: when you start thinking of medicinal cannabis, it's very standoffice, 295 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: it's very you know, it's very criminalized. They just did medicinal. 296 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: I do agree with that, and they did loosen up 297 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 1: with the medicinal, which we thought, I mean I personally 298 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 1: thought it would never happen. However, I do know a 299 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: lot of people that are from Salt Lake in Utah 300 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: and all these different places, and you know, it's it's 301 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 1: a very you know, strict little town. Yeah, there's good 302 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: and be good to it. Like there's you know, the 303 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: ld S Church keeps the streets clean. They do a 304 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: lot for the state, they do a lot of the citizens, 305 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: even if you're not Mormon. Um, what happened with Prop Two, 306 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 1: which was our cannabis bill, is the people voted one way, 307 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 1: and immediately following Um, the governor and the club, the 308 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: Club came together and compromised and compromised what the Utah 309 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: voters voted and it wasn't the first time, but for 310 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: me loving Utah, loving my zip code, and yes, I, 311 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: you know, have a place in l A and yes 312 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 1: I live in other places at times, um exploring cannabis. 313 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: You know, if I want to make a change, you 314 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 1: have to kind of step into it. So you can't 315 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,719 Speaker 1: can I'm not can't sit and complain about something if 316 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 1: I'm unwilling to get involved. And that was really what 317 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: drove um the idea of running for state legislature? Is 318 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: that coming up this November? Yeah, it is. Are you 319 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: on full campaign mode? Oh? I'm not at all. I'm 320 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 1: really I'm really bad at it. How are you trying 321 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: to reach out just out of curiosity during this during 322 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 1: this you know, shelter at home. I know it's been 323 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 1: tough for a lot of the campaigning. Uh, you know, 324 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: you can't you know it looks bad at campaign. But 325 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: if you don't campaign, you can't get your name out 326 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: there and get your views out there. How are you 327 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:38,719 Speaker 1: dealing with that? Well, you know, I wonder some about 328 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 1: you know, am I really cut out to be a politician, 329 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: like to spend that time of uh you know, of 330 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: the year to go up and make laws and the 331 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 1: campaigning for that. So the answer is I'll find out 332 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:54,440 Speaker 1: if I win, if I'm really cut out to be 333 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: a politician. The idea would be to change politics, you know, 334 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: to never be the politician, but always be the citizen, 335 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: and always be there representing with a clear head, and 336 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,640 Speaker 1: never sell out to abbyists and do all the things 337 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 1: that I think um is detrimental to the system. But 338 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 1: campaigning will be done from home, it will be done 339 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: on social media. I'm barely getting a website up. In fact, 340 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: I took this call or this call. I did this 341 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 1: after that's away today rather than get on the phone 342 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:23,959 Speaker 1: with the website guy and get that finalized story as 343 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 1: well story. And I'm gonna do more harassing. But I'm 344 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 1: gonna praise you right now and let you know why. 345 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: I do believe that you'd be a great politician. Because 346 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 1: any person, let alone women, men, whatever, that starts at 347 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: a company and goes from the bottom to the top, 348 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: who pays so much attention and takes a company like 349 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: overstock dot Com to the levels that you helped take 350 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 1: a company like that too, with the numbers alone, is 351 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 1: proof in the pudding. This woman is a woman to 352 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: be reckoned with and if you're living out in Utah 353 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 1: and if you're in District one, this is the type 354 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 1: of Democrat for Utah State House representatives that you want 355 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: to represent you because she cares about people. She cared 356 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: about a whole business that excelled so much. So for 357 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: that alone, in my opinion, when I look at your 358 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: stats of who you are, you're gonna be a damn 359 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 1: good politician. Politician, I think she cares. She cares so 360 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:24,199 Speaker 1: much that I know she helped other women who are 361 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: entrepreneurial who are looking for help or a mentor in 362 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: their business. And you volunteer your time and you help 363 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: a lot of different women in different businesses. What's going 364 00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: on with that? Um? You know, I came from an 365 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: untraditional background and I think I got really lucky. Um. 366 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 1: Like I said, with the timing and positioning, and people 367 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: that say they don't have luck involved would be crazy. 368 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: Everybody gets a little bit of luck in their life 369 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: or the least they should. Yes, Um, But you know, 370 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 1: I was really surprised as I grew up and went 371 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: through all kinds of movements right at the met Too movement, 372 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: the Burning Grab movement, all the stuff, all the things 373 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: that throughout my career, there really weren't a lot of 374 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 1: women around two talk to or assist or really go to. 375 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:14,959 Speaker 1: And you know, back in the nineties, the management positions, 376 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: you know, we think that mainly dominated by men. Now, 377 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: back then they absolutely were. And so you know, most 378 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 1: times when a woman reaches out and wants to talk, 379 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,120 Speaker 1: she can be a stranger, and I'll normally really try 380 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: to take the call because I didn't have that, and 381 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: I think, you know, as a result, you know, I 382 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: it you try to join the club versus beat your 383 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 1: own drum, and you know, I struggle through that. I 384 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 1: just think it's great, the new breed of politician, whatever 385 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: you want to call it, because we had a guy 386 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:54,120 Speaker 1: on last week from Miami, a Republican who is coming 387 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 1: out in favor of legalizing cannabis. It's in his campaign, 388 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 1: it's on his website. Instead of people just supporting it 389 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 1: and not putting it out there, it's actually becoming part 390 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 1: of people campaigns from the big tinning, which I think 391 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: is absolutely historic that it's actually able to be on 392 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 1: your website saying I'm in favor of this, I'm in 393 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: favor of social reform, I'm in favor of criminal reform 394 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 1: all that gets tied up into cannabis as well, and 395 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 1: it's you know, and like you said, there's I think 396 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 1: I turned the new The new wave of politician is 397 00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,399 Speaker 1: you can't really peg hole. Is it a Republican, is 398 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 1: it a Democrat? You know, I don't like those labels myself. 399 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: In some ways I'm a conservative, in some ways I'm liberal. 400 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 1: I won't put a you know, a label on myself. 401 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 1: You know, I might be a liberal tote and gun guy. 402 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: I've got a couple of my own guns. Uh, you're 403 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 1: not taking them away. You're gonna prime from my dead 404 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: cold hands. So but but I just think it's great 405 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: that that liberal Democrat Republican can get behind cannabis issue 406 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: and unite as one hopefully at the end of the day. 407 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: What's your vision, what's your vision for cannabis regulation in Utah? 408 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 1: You know, going for legislation? Well, the vision, I haven't 409 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: made a vision as far as that goes. Cannabis is 410 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: not my platform. I think that it's been accepted, it's 411 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: deemed an essential business. So to keep separating ourselves to say, 412 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 1: you know, I support cannabis versus you know, I buy 413 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: aspirin at the store too. You know, it is a medicine. 414 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,080 Speaker 1: It has already happened in the state of Utah. It 415 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:35,159 Speaker 1: has been approved medicinally. What I don't like is the 416 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,400 Speaker 1: thought of people not being able to create their own medicine, 417 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: not being able to grow it in their backyard. It 418 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 1: is a plant, and we can grow cucumbers. And as 419 00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: plant medicine continues to play out, um and more people 420 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 1: become familiar with it, and the pharmaceutical companies continue to 421 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 1: lose money out of their pockets because people start supplementing 422 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: plants versus pills. UM. I suspect that they would want 423 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 1: to get the arms around more plants like lavender or 424 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 1: basil or something when it's used in a medicinal form. 425 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 1: And I think that is where I stand on cannabis. 426 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: It is still a plant, regardless of what they call it. 427 00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 1: You know, I can have a stigma that it's still 428 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: the same damn plant. You can say it's legal, but 429 00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: it's still the same damn plant. And it's just a plant. 430 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: And that's where you know, the next generations I think 431 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: will come in handy because they won't be raised with 432 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: some fearful idea. The whole propaganda of it. Let me 433 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: ask you. We've had this debate on the year and 434 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: Mark and Craig have gone at it back and forth. 435 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,360 Speaker 1: I'm not going to say who believes what, but will 436 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: the FEDS make cannabis federally legal? What is your thoughts 437 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: on this, Stormy Simon? Um, I believe so eventually. There's 438 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 1: so much money in it. Um. You know, but what 439 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 1: does it mean to be federally legal only available from fiser? Yeah, 440 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: exactly the states And yeah, that's a great point. But 441 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 1: what we're seeing and that's even a funnier statement because 442 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 1: exactly what does that really mean? Shouldn't just literally left 443 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: to the states. That's my opinion. Leave it to the states. 444 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: Leave it to the states. And you know what, And 445 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: I'm so disappointed in the President because he literally campaigned 446 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:20,160 Speaker 1: on that. Um. He had the uh Roar Baker, who 447 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 1: the President had the air of was was very states 448 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 1: rights um. And and actually are we interviewed, believe it 449 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: or not, and he helped the popper doesn't all get famous? 450 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 1: Is Roger Stone? We actually interviewed him. He was pro 451 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: cannabis for whatever reason, I'm not quite sure. Maybe there 452 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: was business down the road. It was gonna help him. 453 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 1: But he actually was on our show talking about we 454 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:46,280 Speaker 1: should be legalizing cannabis um and and and our president 455 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: could have easily have done this already. Instead he turned 456 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:54,399 Speaker 1: around and started backtracking, trying to take away rights. So, 457 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's time that we get someone 458 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,640 Speaker 1: in there who's gonna take a stand. Never never gonna 459 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 1: happen federally. You know what's gonna happen because as the 460 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 1: younger generation comes up, as we've had several on our 461 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 1: show already running for office, whether it's this term or 462 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: the next term, it's gonna happen the life. Yes, it will. 463 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: It's gonna happen in our lifetime. Why isn't happened already. 464 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: It's gonna happen. Mark, stop doing this again. Not to happen. 465 00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: Something will happen. There's no way that Trump given what 466 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: just happened with COVID and the economy sink, and this 467 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: is a big save. You know, it wouldn't surprise me 468 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 1: if he just pulls out his hand and sign something 469 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: simply to rewrite the history of the economics. You know what, 470 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 1: you know what, you would know. No, the funny part is, 471 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 1: I agree with you, but it's mind boggling that that 472 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 1: hasn't happened. There's been so many happened. I mean, the 473 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: funny thing is, I live in the city of Anaheim. 474 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: I live in the city of Anaheim, California, very very 475 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 1: right wing and conservative, and they're thinking of allowing cannabis. 476 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 1: A lot of it too, was in light of the COVID. 477 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: The cannabis business are still employing people back and that 478 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 1: was in the old days. But I mean, for a 479 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 1: city like Anaheim and and their tour space, they're finally 480 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,479 Speaker 1: opening their eyes. I mean, I don't know how long 481 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,360 Speaker 1: it's gonna take for these guys to open their eyes 482 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: and make a one eighty. And you know, hopefully it's 483 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 1: sooner than later, but it might be later. But it's 484 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 1: gonna happen. You know why, Craig, they're not going to 485 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: do it in Anaheim. They are gonna do it. But 486 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: you know why, it's so far, far far away. It's 487 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: the big ears, bro. No, no, no, no, it's not 488 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: it's not you know, do you know do you know 489 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: the source of customers from the resort area for cannabis 490 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: is gonna be huge cover that there's no way they're 491 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 1: well let's have to drive like a couple of miles 492 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: different directions, leave the kids in the leave the kids 493 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: in the hotel room. Alcohol At Disneyland, you can buy 494 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: shots and beer and stuff. What's the problem. This is 495 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: why they will never be federally illegal. Off states are 496 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: going to do it, and federally it'll still prohibit it, 497 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: because's gonna happen. It's just a crop to to hear 498 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: exactly what you says to me. Look at what it 499 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: could do financially for the country. We see what it's 500 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 1: doing in other states. Besides, California has a huge black market. 501 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,240 Speaker 1: But all these states are making so much money on it, 502 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 1: and they can make so much on taxes, and if 503 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: they allow even more delivery services like Colorado just did 504 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: curbside pickups. I mean, if they allow these things to happen, 505 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: and especially for the older community who's been hit so 506 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: hard on COVID nineteen, this may be able to help him. 507 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: They don't necessarily need to smoke it, but cannabis can 508 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: definitely help them. Whether they're doing more. Teinsters are edibles, 509 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 1: and it's like, when are these states gonna open their 510 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: damn eyes? I mean, like you said, like you said though, 511 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,840 Speaker 1: it's so hypocritical and it's almost I hate to say laughable, 512 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: but to have deemed cannabis essential and yet it's still illegal. Essential, 513 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 1: it's essential, just don't grow more than six plans. But 514 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: otherwise you're otherwise you're still a criminal. There's a lot 515 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: of medical that that's that's like, it's maronic, is what 516 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 1: it is. And all these politicians need to take their 517 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: head completely out of their ass and and look at 518 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: all the evidence and look at all I don't care 519 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: anecdotal or not what you call it. We have so 520 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: many stories of cannabis helping people that I think that 521 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: when they open it up and take it off the 522 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: schedule is and research it, it's gonna it's gonna back 523 00:30:55,720 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 1: up what all of our anecdotal evidence showed. Think that. 524 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: Don't you think that every single time someone chooses cannabis 525 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: over whatever form they're using to medicate today, that is 526 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: money out of someone's pocket. And when you talk about 527 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: these pharmaceutical companies, that is big money. In the states 528 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: that have gone legal use have proven that there is 529 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: a reduction in opiate opioid prescriptions being written, being filled, 530 00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: all of it. That is real money out of their pocket. Now, 531 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: those are the people when we talk about the old 532 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: boys Club, that are going to get their ducks in 533 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 1: a row before this happens. They have to at the 534 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: end of the day. They're still public companies. At the 535 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: end of the day. If they don't do more in 536 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: two thousand twenty than they did in two thousand nineteen, 537 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: somebody gets their hands slapped. So they have to get 538 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: their ducks in a row. And I wonder if that's 539 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 1: what the states or the federal government is waiting for 540 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: right right there, stalling out so the big pharmaceutical can 541 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: get in line. I mean, and I hope, because people 542 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: have talked about this before, I would hope that, yeah, 543 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 1: they're they're gonna get into it. There's absolutely no question 544 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: they're already to it. They they're already They're gonna make it, 545 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: then make pills, are gonna make whatever they're gonna make. 546 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: But they're still gonna be the true cannabis industry that's 547 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 1: I believe will survive the corporate takeoverblems, will ever take 548 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 1: it over completely. They might be heavily involved in it 549 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: and try to make a profit from it. They may 550 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: have like the Marble Marlborough of of weed. But it's 551 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 1: going to be crappy. But if people want to go 552 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 1: in and buy crappy weed, that's up to them. If 553 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: that's all they can afford, they can correct. And most 554 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 1: people that's what they want. When they did the research, 555 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,719 Speaker 1: they said, most people just want affordable weed. I mean, 556 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: you could always buy top shelf everything, just like you know, 557 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: if you're drinking real cheap vodka, cheap beers, everything else, 558 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 1: you have your top shelf liquor and you have your 559 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: low They need to offer that low quality cannabis for 560 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 1: the consumer that could afford that. Well. Incomes aren't created equal, 561 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: but every every human, if they want it, should have 562 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: access to cannabis. Every adult, right, and it's and you 563 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: and you plant it, you plant, you put a seat 564 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 1: in the ground. We had we had Big Mike from 565 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 1: the Advanced Nutrients gave us a startup kit. It's this 566 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: box that you know, it's all you. Everything you need 567 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: is you know, grow a plant. I need good Night 568 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 1: to send me that here from my green down. We'll 569 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,400 Speaker 1: ask me to do that for you. Don't worry. We'll 570 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: definitely connection. And before we take another break, as we 571 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 1: were talking to a story right here, story I got 572 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 1: to read you something and I want to get your 573 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 1: thoughts on it, okay, And it was it was an 574 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 1: article that I read that just came out this morning, 575 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 1: and it says Executive Chairman Adam Levine said, the team 576 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 1: and I would like to thank Stormy for all our 577 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: hard work in getting us through this transition period and 578 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: we are excited to have her continue never to grow 579 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: High Time into a business area areas it helps create. 580 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: So I'm I'm wondering, how do you feel about what 581 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: he said? How do you feel about what he said? 582 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,360 Speaker 1: I'll answer that I'm not a tap dancer. I feel 583 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 1: like that must be crap. If I'm not working there, 584 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 1: Why would you say that about me? If it was me? 585 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 1: So I just told you how I felt. Now Stormy 586 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,879 Speaker 1: back to you, how do you feel about that? Let's 587 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 1: take a break and we'll be right back for the 588 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:28,439 Speaker 1: high five with Stormy Simon, the former CEO of High 589 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:32,879 Speaker 1: Times and now tap dancer. Thank you, I do it well. 590 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Cannabis Talk one on one. It's Mark Wasserman, 591 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: little brother the Pop brothers at law with my big 592 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:45,680 Speaker 1: brother Craig, Joe Grande and Blue and are very very 593 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 1: special guests Stormy Simon, and right now we are going 594 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,440 Speaker 1: to give our special thanks, very special thanks to our 595 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 1: producer Elvis, our social media director Jennifer, and then we 596 00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:01,319 Speaker 1: have Bethan, Sophia and David not our brother Wasserman at 597 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 1: my heart for helping us get this podcast out into 598 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 1: the world. And a very very special shout out to 599 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 1: guys Big Boy because he deserves it and everyone who 600 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 1: supported Cannabis Talk one on one. We truly appreciate all you. 601 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 1: And now we get to do the time of the show. 602 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 1: It is the high Five, Joe. It is time for 603 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,360 Speaker 1: the high five with the former This is breaking news, folks, 604 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 1: former CEO of High Time Breaking News. You know, when 605 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 1: the air conditioning went out, I thought, this is a 606 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,280 Speaker 1: sign that I am not supposed to do this today. 607 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 1: And I normally listened, but I love the pot brother 608 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 1: so much and he was Mark was so kind as 609 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 1: we were talking that I did it anyway, but I 610 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 1: knew better like this could come back and haunt me. 611 00:35:54,200 --> 00:36:01,359 Speaker 1: And that's a good that That's why the lawyers haven't 612 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 1: hammered you, because we understand you shouldn't talk about certain 613 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 1: things right now. And no, no, no, no, not at all. 614 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,319 Speaker 1: It's not worth spoken if it's there's you know, nondisclosure, 615 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 1: the kind there's all kinds of stuff going on. So 616 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 1: I think what we should do is get right to 617 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,879 Speaker 1: the high five. Joe. Question number one, Jeremy, how old 618 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,280 Speaker 1: we the first time you found out? You were just kidding? 619 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 1: He told the first page. Let me get back to 620 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,879 Speaker 1: the high five? Nothing with high time? Sorry? How old 621 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 1: you the first time you smoked weed? And where'd you 622 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,879 Speaker 1: get it from? Um? I was thirteen in the back 623 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,360 Speaker 1: of the junior high school, and I had no idea 624 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 1: what it was. I thought it was some weird cigarette 625 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,839 Speaker 1: that my mom never told me about. And the girl, 626 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 1: this girl named Kim, had it and handed it to me. 627 00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 1: I have no idea what I was doing at all, 628 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,880 Speaker 1: none of it. I had not even heard of marijuana 629 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 1: at thirteen years old. Did you did you cough? How 630 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 1: was it? Um? I held it like a cigarette. And 631 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:12,880 Speaker 1: then you know those moments like where you're like, um, 632 00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 1: you're an adolescent, and like you have this impactful moment 633 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 1: because everyone's looking at you and you know you're trying 634 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,759 Speaker 1: to be cool, but you don't really know if you're cool. Well, 635 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:23,759 Speaker 1: at that point, I had no idea what I was doing, 636 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 1: and so you know, I had smoked cigarettes before, so 637 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,759 Speaker 1: I held it like a cigarette and I um took 638 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 1: a hit and everyone started yelling at me that I 639 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,040 Speaker 1: was holding it wrong and I was doing it wrong, 640 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 1: and was this my first time? And hold it in, 641 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 1: hold it in? And I knew none of what that meant. 642 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't know what to do. Yeah. 643 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 1: I was like, okay, I don't know what to do, 644 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,719 Speaker 1: and I didn't. So what is your favorite way to 645 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 1: use cannabis? I'm a smoker joints. You know, it's been 646 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:03,839 Speaker 1: interesting as I went many many weeks on this isolation 647 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:05,799 Speaker 1: without smoking, and I didn't think of it one way 648 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 1: or another thing. I was just so peaceful that I 649 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 1: didn't need any of the medicine. But you know, traditionally 650 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:13,400 Speaker 1: a joint. I think that's just from you know, the 651 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 1: way we grew up, that social circle thing that are 652 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:20,640 Speaker 1: gone to the wayside with COVID. Question number three, question 653 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,919 Speaker 1: number three of the high five craziest place You've ever 654 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,880 Speaker 1: smoked or used cannabis? I remember that question now, and 655 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,239 Speaker 1: I went through about ten that I'm not going to say, 656 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 1: all right, we'll we'll we'll respect that too, but I 657 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 1: will say that um at a. I guess one of 658 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 1: my favorites was at the Oakland Coliseum when the Raiders 659 00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,360 Speaker 1: were playing. They were playing Denver that day back in 660 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 1: the nineties. The black Hole, Yeah, the black the black 661 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,279 Speaker 1: Hole is that what they called it. Anyway, they had 662 00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 1: one corridor where you could go out and I was naive, 663 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 1: so naive to the rest of the world. Um, coming 664 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:08,600 Speaker 1: from Utah, and we were in this corridor and everybody's 665 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:12,040 Speaker 1: smoking and there's like so much culture right coming out 666 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:16,920 Speaker 1: of that corn. Yeah, people are dancing on these tables, 667 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 1: but what's happening is everyone's smoking weed. And I'm watching. 668 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 1: I'm watching the security guards watch all the people, and 669 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,840 Speaker 1: I'm like, I guess it's okay. So I'm feeling a 670 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 1: little more comfortable. And I got this guy next to 671 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 1: me and he was just this really culture dude that 672 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,880 Speaker 1: probably on you know, we probably wouldn't have spoken on 673 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,839 Speaker 1: a street corner and you know, probably wouldn't have any 674 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 1: other way. Yeah, and he was shouting out. I bought 675 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,319 Speaker 1: some set of Barbara weed here and all I did 676 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,800 Speaker 1: was go Salt Lake City, Utah, And then I was 677 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,800 Speaker 1: the it's like it's Salt Lake City, Utah, and and 678 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:59,719 Speaker 1: everybody wanted this month my joint. We are here with 679 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 1: Stormy Simon, former president of overstock dot Com, former CEO 680 00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,239 Speaker 1: of High Times, running for Utah State House of Representative 681 00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,360 Speaker 1: District twenty one. We are doing the High five Cannabis 682 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,840 Speaker 1: Talk one on one. Question number four, Stormy, what is 683 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:19,759 Speaker 1: your go to munchi's after you get high? There's a 684 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:24,719 Speaker 1: lot so I love. I love Lucky Charms like my 685 00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 1: favorite cereal. I have some milk, almond milk and without 686 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:38,960 Speaker 1: almond milk and almonds. Yes, I do love RECs, peanut 687 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 1: butter caps and a good salad. Now is that all 688 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,080 Speaker 1: together all at once? You just kind of mash it up. Yeah, 689 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,759 Speaker 1: you do the cat, the salad, you're throwing some cashews, 690 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,480 Speaker 1: you have a bowl of Lucky Charms and end it 691 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:59,439 Speaker 1: with the recon. Yeah, okay, question here we go. You guys, 692 00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,520 Speaker 1: if you could smoke cannabis with anyone dead or alive, 693 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:07,640 Speaker 1: who would it be. That's a hard question. And I 694 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 1: thought about this one for a second. I think it 695 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:16,960 Speaker 1: would be George Washington and the reason. Yeah, I thought 696 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,439 Speaker 1: about it. There were many people that I really think 697 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,360 Speaker 1: but just given the space and you know, our environment 698 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,080 Speaker 1: and all the things that we're going through as humans 699 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,640 Speaker 1: right now. I kind of would like to go back 700 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:31,000 Speaker 1: to the Founding Fathers and see how they think they did. 701 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 1: And you know, if you could sit with him and 702 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 1: have him look at today and say, is this at 703 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,600 Speaker 1: all what you planned? And by the way, if given 704 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,840 Speaker 1: the chance, would you also have a founding mother to 705 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 1: sign something that represented people ny time where women couldn't either, 706 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 1: I don't I Black people couldn't either. So yeah, and 707 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,840 Speaker 1: so we actually have this thing that he put together 708 00:41:56,080 --> 00:42:00,560 Speaker 1: that many men put together Founding fathers, no found women 709 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,040 Speaker 1: in a time that wasn't equal, and so much of 710 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:08,239 Speaker 1: that inequality has proven through all this time, you know, 711 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 1: just to I care a lot about social justice, and um, 712 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:15,759 Speaker 1: you know, in the state of Utah, one percent of 713 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,600 Speaker 1: the population is black, seven percent of are in the 714 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 1: prison system, and that's an issue. And so what it 715 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,239 Speaker 1: was built, when it was signed, and all of the 716 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 1: things do they think or would they do anything different, 717 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:34,840 Speaker 1: including include a womanist answer we've ever had. I recently 718 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 1: just read too that he actually had a cannabis form 719 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,480 Speaker 1: on his on his land that he was growing cannabis 720 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 1: back in the day, so great answer. Yeah, yeah, it 721 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:48,240 Speaker 1: was legal back then. It wasn't until that what Hoover 722 00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 1: Well story, Well, Stormy, we want to thank you for 723 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 1: being on the show. You know where can people reach 724 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 1: you out there in uh the world of you know, Instagram, 725 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:01,200 Speaker 1: Facebook and all that good stuff? Do you? I'm always 726 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:06,279 Speaker 1: Stormy Simon Simon everywhere. Yes, and then I'm going to 727 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,320 Speaker 1: start a podcast. I've been We're doing this for like 728 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,239 Speaker 1: a year or so. It's kind of lazy with it, 729 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 1: but I shouldn't say that this is blue. Can I 730 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,239 Speaker 1: be on one of your guests on the show. Yeah, 731 00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:23,279 Speaker 1: I was. I was pretty nice. It's been pretty good. Yeah, 732 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,799 Speaker 1: but I'm I'm the first guest. Mark would be care 733 00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 1: for me the first guests. It's called Lunch with Stormy 734 00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,120 Speaker 1: and I was gonna do it net like style. So 735 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,439 Speaker 1: I've got a few in the tank. But we'll see 736 00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:43,520 Speaker 1: the brothers at law. Lunch with Stormy. You can't wait 737 00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 1: to see it and hear it. Yeah, Well, there it is, guys. 738 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:53,279 Speaker 1: Thanks Craig. I appreciate you. Well, there it is, guys. 739 00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,560 Speaker 1: Thank you, Against Story. We appreciate you so much. Congratulations 740 00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,000 Speaker 1: on everything that you're doing. We look forward to hanging 741 00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 1: out with you in the sea, in the industry, and 742 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,440 Speaker 1: I hope that you do your best and taking over 743 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,759 Speaker 1: for the Senate and it's kind of its Talk one 744 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:08,840 Speaker 1: oh one. Remember this. If no one else loves you, 745 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:13,520 Speaker 1: we do. Thank you for listening to Cannabis Talk one 746 00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:16,280 Speaker 1: oh one on the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcast, 747 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,319 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts.