WEBVTT - Ep. 20 — When to quit a low-paying job

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, hey, hey, we are back. It's episode twenty. I

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<v Speaker 1>miss y'all as well too.

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<v Speaker 2>I talked to you more than I talk to people

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<v Speaker 2>in my family. By the way, it's true, because we

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<v Speaker 2>have a gut standing once a week date.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, you know, I should do that with other people,

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<v Speaker 3>but I just I'm just so sad.

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<v Speaker 1>Sleep But you know, it's so crazy, like I went

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<v Speaker 1>out with the I when I took poetry with a

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<v Speaker 1>good friend of mine who had not seen him forever.

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<v Speaker 2>You're so cultured, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, no, but I used to really be into poetry.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, honestly, you know, I think you know I

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<v Speaker 1>used to step on a stage or way you did

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<v Speaker 1>spoken word. Yes, I did get a little taste, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So let me see.

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<v Speaker 2>No, we can't phenomenal woman. Every black woman who's ever

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<v Speaker 2>done the spoken word has got no phenomenal women.

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<v Speaker 3>Of course, you may push me down in history with

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<v Speaker 3>your bitter twisted.

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<v Speaker 2>Lass, but I got diamonds at the meeting of my buzz.

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<v Speaker 3>I am a woman, phenomenally phenomenal woman. That's me.

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<v Speaker 1>No, No, but I really did used to be, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in college, I was really into poetry. And so

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<v Speaker 1>there's this young woman named Jasmine Man's who is Dope.

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<v Speaker 3>Tastic if you guys get a chance.

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<v Speaker 1>Jasmine Man's she I don't know, she's like twenty five,

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<v Speaker 1>but she's got this new poem called like Message for

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<v Speaker 1>Kanye or something like that, where it's this poem kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like Kanye, what happened to You? But it's really

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<v Speaker 1>an amazing poem. And she was having a show in

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<v Speaker 1>Newark where I live, and it was like fifteen bucks

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<v Speaker 1>at Symphony Hall, and I was like, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to go, but then you know how it goes

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<v Speaker 1>when you buy a ticket like a week or so

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<v Speaker 1>ahead of time, when you're feeling all optimistic, and then

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<v Speaker 1>the day comes and.

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<v Speaker 3>You're like, I'm sad, I don't want to go, but

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<v Speaker 3>we ended up going anyway. But I realized that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm thirty six and most of my friends are

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<v Speaker 1>in their thirties, and I'm feeling there's like this general

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<v Speaker 1>sentiment and I don't know you could tell me this

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<v Speaker 1>because I know you're so in your twenties. If you're

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<v Speaker 1>getting this energy from your friends, everybody feels so stretched

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<v Speaker 1>to the limit and tired, and no one's really taking

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<v Speaker 1>time for themselves.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody's just in go go, go, go go mode. Have

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<v Speaker 3>you been getting that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm feeling like I'm in like the go to work

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<v Speaker 2>and come home, go to work and come home for

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<v Speaker 2>dinner and watch the TV and maybe work out and

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<v Speaker 2>then go to work. You know, like that cycle hits

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<v Speaker 2>me down.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know, Like I feel like the thirty

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<v Speaker 1>year olds and the like the thirty five, thirty six,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, thirty two year olds. I know they've they've

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<v Speaker 1>it's not even like so much go to work and

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<v Speaker 1>go home. It's like everybody has kind of hit like

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<v Speaker 1>the turbo drive because they're just like, Okay, I'm past

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<v Speaker 1>my twenties, I know what I want to do.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm working in my fields.

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<v Speaker 1>I got that promotion, and now it's just like everything

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<v Speaker 1>is going great professionally, but my personal life is totally

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<v Speaker 1>dying that Like it's such a crazy sentiment, but every

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<v Speaker 1>one of my friends has been like, you know, everything's

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<v Speaker 1>going great at work, work or whatever, like business or.

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<v Speaker 3>Whatever I have, but I just I'm dying on the inside.

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<v Speaker 2>Help you are personally?

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<v Speaker 1>No, Yeah, yeah, well me, I've been feeling like that too,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's like like business has never been better at

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<v Speaker 1>the Budgetnista. Honestly, like it has never been better. Things

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<v Speaker 1>are growing at a pace that I cannot even It's

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<v Speaker 1>like warp speed at the budget lista. But at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time, I'm like always tired and thankfully like Superman

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<v Speaker 1>is so amazing. Like today, I just came straight home

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<v Speaker 1>from my taping I did and fell asleep and woke

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<v Speaker 1>up to a clean house and breadth and food made.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know you're tired, babe, but I'm just like, dang,

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<v Speaker 1>when's the last time I hung out?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like just hung out.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, because even when I hang out with my

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<v Speaker 1>friends now, they bring their computers and like we.

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<v Speaker 3>Talk about work.

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<v Speaker 1>Even at the poetry show, me and my girlfriend at

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<v Speaker 1>the intermission who I went with, and we're like talking

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<v Speaker 1>about work, and I'm like, dang, when's the last time

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<v Speaker 1>we were just like, oh my gosh and hey girl,

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<v Speaker 1>and those are cute nails and yeah. So I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like there's just like I don't know if it's the

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<v Speaker 1>age that we're in, but everybody's just been struggling to reclaim.

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<v Speaker 1>So one of the things I'm gonna do is I'm

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<v Speaker 1>actually gonna have a vision board party. And so you're

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<v Speaker 1>totally invited, which I actually see it like loud in

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<v Speaker 1>publiccause the people are gonna be like, I want to go.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, by the time it's the years that might be.

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<v Speaker 2>Over, I'll do it for you. But you know how

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<v Speaker 2>I felt about vision boards.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, but I mean you could keep it in honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think that one of the things one of

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<v Speaker 1>my ways to kind of reconnect is to try to

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<v Speaker 1>like host events where I can hang out with my

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<v Speaker 1>friends and just hang out and let it just be that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like, do not you even have to be that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I was just talking about relationships and how

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<v Speaker 2>I'm really like trying to focus on that for twenty sixteen,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm telling you that weekend that I spent with

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<v Speaker 2>my friends, we had internet, but we just literally just

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<v Speaker 2>played games, Like we had a few board games and

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<v Speaker 2>we had a TV and we really played old video

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<v Speaker 2>games and we just like we didn't even talk about

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<v Speaker 2>anything like that memorable. We didn't have like discussions that

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<v Speaker 2>changed lives, but it was just being together and just

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<v Speaker 2>like I don't know, it was it was just like

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<v Speaker 2>you turn your brain kind of down and not yeah, weekend,

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<v Speaker 2>it was maybe something like that. It's I think changing

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<v Speaker 2>the environment if you can. I know it can be complicated,

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<v Speaker 2>but getting outside of your apartment or outside of places

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<v Speaker 2>that remind you of work or work, yeah, it is

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<v Speaker 2>really important.

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<v Speaker 1>I think a game night that would be fun, And

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<v Speaker 1>maybe that's why I'm going to commit to that like

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<v Speaker 1>one of my like things for twenty sixteen, cause honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>like I like like planning and putting people together that

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<v Speaker 1>maybe at least like maybe once every other month, I

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<v Speaker 1>plan some sort of like fun night where its has

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<v Speaker 1>nothing to do with anything other than fun, Like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>game night, you know, everybody bring cards, we have taboo,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, vision board night, we all just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>hang out.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm definitely going to commit to at least like once

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<v Speaker 1>every three months having some sort of just gathering just

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<v Speaker 1>for gathering sake and women coming and lacking and eating

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<v Speaker 1>and drinking together because I just think that we need it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we do.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's nice to like you're so stuck in your

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<v Speaker 2>own lane and like what you're doing, and it's nice

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<v Speaker 2>to sit back and remind yourself that people have stuff

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<v Speaker 2>going on too. It is, and I hate that feeling

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<v Speaker 2>when I see, like I just saw one of my

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<v Speaker 2>friends who was like my first almost one of my

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<v Speaker 2>first friends when I moved to New York and I

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<v Speaker 2>saw him for the first time in a year and

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<v Speaker 2>we live in the same neighborhood. For he came for

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<v Speaker 2>dinner the other night and we were just talking, and God,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, you, you started law school. I forgot

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<v Speaker 2>about that, Like he started law school and I hadn't

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<v Speaker 2>even thought about it, you know, And I felt, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't like that feeling. So it's nice to just yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because I feel like it makes you a better friend too, when.

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<v Speaker 1>You for sure that every you know you're not feel

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, I love that knock knock knock on

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<v Speaker 1>the mic. You're not the only one with stuff going on.

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<v Speaker 1>People have babies. Oh that's cute about your business. I

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<v Speaker 1>gave births.

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<v Speaker 2>I created a human life.

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<v Speaker 1>Just growing a little a little person inside of me,

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<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of speaking of babies, I had like four or

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<v Speaker 2>five friends who had holiday babies. Well, four who gave

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<v Speaker 2>birth and one who announced they were pregnant. So it

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<v Speaker 2>is like before the past couple of years have been

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<v Speaker 2>the years of the weddings, and now it is becoming

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<v Speaker 2>the years.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the babies.

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<v Speaker 2>Either way, your budget screwed because there's like a million events.

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<v Speaker 2>I last year's babies, I'm going to baptisms and first

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<v Speaker 2>birthday parties.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it is honestly like once you get to a

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<v Speaker 1>certain age, you just have to open up like a

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<v Speaker 1>separate bank account for like life, you know, like just

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<v Speaker 1>things that are happening in your friend's life because you

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<v Speaker 1>just know you're gonna have to put money.

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<v Speaker 2>Out, you really do. But I saw all my friends.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, you shouldn't have gotten married five years ago

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<v Speaker 2>when I was broken New York, because now I actually

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<v Speaker 2>have money.

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<v Speaker 3>I know.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember I wrote when I wrote my friend she

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<v Speaker 2>got one of my best friends, she got married three

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<v Speaker 2>years ago. I remember writing her check and I had

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<v Speaker 2>I was like two dollars away from overdrawing my account

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<v Speaker 2>when I wrote that checked her. I think it was

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<v Speaker 2>like seventy dollars some random number that's all I could afford.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, I remember when you used to

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<v Speaker 2>write checks with like the fear of God in your heart?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, like or you write a check with a caveat

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<v Speaker 1>like So I'm kindily.

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<v Speaker 2>Cast this after you after the.

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<v Speaker 3>Fifteenth, between the fifteenth and.

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<v Speaker 1>The thirty, if you cash it after the thirty I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna promise it's gonna be money. But if you

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<v Speaker 1>waited and to that, you're like, girl, just keep your money.

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<v Speaker 3>Ah, those are the days.

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<v Speaker 2>Well let's jump into some headlines just real quick. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to talk about some buffoonery that has taken place.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't really watch comics, watch comics, read comics, but

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<v Speaker 2>I do enjoy the occasional movie. So I read not

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<v Speaker 2>only one, but two major comic book publishers, DC Comics

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<v Speaker 2>and Marvel. Marvel is spider Man. Let me not get

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<v Speaker 2>this wrong, so people don't complame me spider Man. Spider

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<v Speaker 2>Man is Marvel and DC Comics is Superman. They both

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<v Speaker 2>made like huge nafoos in the same week. So DC

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<v Speaker 2>Comics put they placed a storyline with Superman and Wonder Woman,

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<v Speaker 2>who I guess are going through some relationship struggles in

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<v Speaker 2>Pakistan for some reason. And there's all this dialogue, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the little bubbles, and then the bottom there's like an

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<v Speaker 2>editor's note that says dialogue has a an asterisk. Is

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<v Speaker 2>all translated from Pakistanian dot dot dot editor which it's

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<v Speaker 2>funny because Pakistan's a country, but no one speaks Pakistanian

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<v Speaker 2>because that language doesn't exist.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it must be.

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<v Speaker 1>It must be like, you know, like cousin to African,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, there's not African. There's not a million

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<v Speaker 1>African language, just one language called African. So it must

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<v Speaker 1>be kind of like in that vein that you're just

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<v Speaker 1>not quite.

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<v Speaker 2>Aware of, the saying do you speak yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>do you speak Chinese? Well, there's two different Chinese languages, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Or like do.

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<v Speaker 1>You speak American? Like girl, you know on Pakistani it's

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<v Speaker 1>similar to American.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not going to pretend that I knew what

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<v Speaker 2>the languages in Pakistan were. Actually the main language is Urdu, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's like three or four others, including English that

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<v Speaker 2>are quite common. But all it takes is a Google search.

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<v Speaker 1>My friends, I was gonna say, you know, the Googles

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<v Speaker 1>is open twenty four hours a day, and I've heard

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<v Speaker 1>it's free.

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<v Speaker 2>I bet you can even search Yahoo dot com and

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<v Speaker 2>find an information.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I'm pretty sure just saying something even being will

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<v Speaker 1>allow you to find them. And you know, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>really bing much, but even being I've heard or it

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<v Speaker 1>can be used for those kind of researches.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, not to be outdone DC Comics or sorry Marvel.

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<v Speaker 2>With Spider Man, they place Spider Man in Cuba. Love Cuba.

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<v Speaker 2>It's amazing. You can go to Cuba now if you're American,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's super easy. They placed him in Cuba. But

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<v Speaker 2>for some reason, they drew the Puerto Rican flag.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, you know, flags are all the same, Like you

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<v Speaker 1>speak Spanish, Puerto Rico, Uruguay, you know, Honduras all the same.

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<v Speaker 1>To me, that's funny, Like, you're right. So apparently the

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<v Speaker 1>people were really in the comic book world. The googles

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<v Speaker 1>was they weren't working for them.

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<v Speaker 3>Huh no.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know what's funny is in the article I'm

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<v Speaker 2>reading it from a romescala dot com, which is like

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<v Speaker 2>a blog focused on Latino Latin American news, they write

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<v Speaker 2>that the writer of this comic, the writer is Puerto Rican,

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<v Speaker 2>which is crazy. Yeah, yeah, the writer.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh, you know, it could be a joke.

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<v Speaker 1>The writer is like, let's see if they get this.

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<v Speaker 2>It can't be a joke. That's crazy, I bet you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe it was just a matter of like he's so

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<v Speaker 2>used to saying the Puerto Rican flag. Maybe even if

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<v Speaker 2>you live in New York. The flag is everywhere. Yeah

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<v Speaker 2>that maybe he just saw it and didn't even think

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<v Speaker 2>about it. But how could you forget You're writing a

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<v Speaker 2>comic based in Cuba and then the flag. Maybe he

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<v Speaker 2>wrote it and didn't illustrate it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is true. Whatever is it me?

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<v Speaker 1>Or whenever you hear somebody say Puerto Rico, you want

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<v Speaker 1>to say, oh, is that just me?

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<v Speaker 2>You?

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<v Speaker 3>No, it's not just me. Somebody you tweet the BA podcast?

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<v Speaker 1>Let me know if you don't want to say, oh, afterwards.

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<v Speaker 2>What's happening it? Okay? Long song? Well they failed, and

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like publishers need to be better.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I mean like, yeah, Google works, and I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I get it because sometimes there's so many like little

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<v Speaker 1>nuances when it comes to putting things out that it's

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<v Speaker 1>things slipped through the cracks, but you're just hoping that

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<v Speaker 1>enough eyes will see things that that doesn't happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's move along. I don't have anything else to say. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>real quick, are you playing the lottery?

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm not gonna lie. Everybody I know was playing

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<v Speaker 1>the lottery, and I'm like, should I? But I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of want to get my millions from my business?

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<v Speaker 2>But your husband brought home a ticket and I'm like, hmm,

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<v Speaker 2>that was four dollars. I could have got me a coffee.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but if.

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<v Speaker 1>Back four dollars now, if I'm like Mandy, hello, Hello, but.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you don't want to like you don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to do them too much because they win, they could

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<v Speaker 2>be like, oh you didn't believe in me.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't have this so exactly like so one of

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<v Speaker 1>the so a woman, one of my Facebook friends, she

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<v Speaker 1>had written like, oh my god, I'm so mad. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't go to work yesterday. Apparently her her pool, like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, she has an office pool. They chipped in

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<v Speaker 1>money and they won whatever it was. It ended up

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<v Speaker 1>being fifty thousand dollars apiece. So you know she's pissed.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, not enough to quit your job,

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<v Speaker 1>but certainly enough to make for a happy New Year.

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<v Speaker 3>She was like, I'm never missing work again.

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<v Speaker 2>I would do an office pool. I don't know. I've

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<v Speaker 2>just I have just feeled some type of way about gambling.

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't like it.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, me too.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, not to bring the mood down, but let's talk

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<v Speaker 2>about this lady, this hungarian lady, all who did not

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<v Speaker 2>want not to but seven different versions of blackface as

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<v Speaker 2>an artistic project, she said, to save Africa from going extinct.

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<v Speaker 2>God bless her.

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<v Speaker 4>She thought she could save Africa because you know, apparently,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, it's must be similar to that whole African

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<v Speaker 4>language thing that you know, people just speak African, so

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<v Speaker 4>you can save Africa and speak African apparently.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm not gonna lie.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was ready to like be all up in arms,

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<v Speaker 1>and I saw the pictures and there it is blackface.

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<v Speaker 3>They are so beautifully portrayed.

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<v Speaker 1>I can tell that the person who did it really

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<v Speaker 1>came from a place of thinking that they were doing

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<v Speaker 1>the right thing.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what I'll give her.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, you don't look at these pictures and think that

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<v Speaker 1>she was trying to be purposely disrespectful or purposefully.

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<v Speaker 3>Like just ignorant. It does not read like that. It

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<v Speaker 3>reads like she really.

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<v Speaker 1>Thought, Wow, I'm doing something great here. I'm gonna put

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of effort and good energy into it. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just I've just been misinformed.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it wasn't like a Halloween thing where you're just

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<v Speaker 2>doing it for shits and giggles. Yes, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's terrible makeup, Like she legitimately personified the women and

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<v Speaker 2>other photos. I just don't get why, because she has

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<v Speaker 2>the images side by side with the real women and

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<v Speaker 2>these images which are I mean, they both look great,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm like, why not just post the pictures of

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<v Speaker 2>the real women?

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<v Speaker 1>Ah, She's like, no, why do that when I can

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<v Speaker 1>do something just way more ignorant?

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<v Speaker 3>But no, Yeah, I mean, yeah, I have.

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<v Speaker 2>A white friend. Just tell them, no, be there.

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<v Speaker 1>For them, Yes, please pull into the side, and there

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<v Speaker 1>are times of need, yes, and just say you know

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<v Speaker 1>what that thing, that black facing you're thinking of, because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we have to do this every Halloween, even

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<v Speaker 1>though people get ripped and ran over and dragged on

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<v Speaker 1>social media, someone every Halloween thinks, not me, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be the first white person to be able to do

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<v Speaker 1>blackface and no one's gonna care. People care, stop doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>So that is your PSA announcement for twenty sixteen.

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<v Speaker 2>You're welcome.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's time for brown Break. I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But oh yeah, did we ever get any brown break songs? No,

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<v Speaker 1>no diddies from anywhere?

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<v Speaker 2>We did not?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Where the didties at?

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<v Speaker 2>Dound really worse when I said it out loud.

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<v Speaker 1>I would love a brown break Diddy like brown break,

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<v Speaker 1>brown break you know me there you go, Yes, I can.

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<v Speaker 1>Just because I can sing doesn't mean I should sing.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's one of those things brown break, you want

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<v Speaker 1>to go first or I'm still trying to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>the wording of my brown break, but I could start

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm trying to think like the cohesive, like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>taking a brown break from you know, I'll say I'm

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<v Speaker 1>taking a brown break from uh, people undervaluing what I

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<v Speaker 1>bring to the table. That's what I'll say. That's probably

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<v Speaker 1>the most concise way that I can say it. No,

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<v Speaker 1>not haters, but they're Lately in the last few weeks

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<v Speaker 1>or so, people have kind of like approached me and

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<v Speaker 1>like my business and things that I'm doing, and the

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<v Speaker 1>exchange has been so lopsided.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, wow, So.

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<v Speaker 1>For example, this is just I'm just making this particular

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<v Speaker 1>scenario up. But they might say, Hey, Tiffany, I'd love

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<v Speaker 1>for you to do you know, ten thousand dollars of

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<v Speaker 1>work and I'll give you one hundred bucks.

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<v Speaker 3>You should be happy with it.

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<v Speaker 1>That kind of like that's what the exchanges have been lately,

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, are you kidding?

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<v Speaker 3>Like it's just been so it's not happen.

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<v Speaker 1>It hasn't even been frustrating, honestly, because my answer is

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<v Speaker 1>always you've lost your mind. No, Like, I haven't said

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<v Speaker 1>you've lost your mind, but I'm like, you think, are

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<v Speaker 1>you aware that I know what I bring to the table.

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<v Speaker 1>So no, like, and this has been large brands, it's

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<v Speaker 1>been smallmallern brands. I mean, just approaching me in a

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<v Speaker 1>way that I'm like, are you, like, are you serious?

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<v Speaker 1>So it's just been very it's been insulting, That's what

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<v Speaker 1>it's been. It has not been frustrating because my answer

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<v Speaker 1>is no, quite honestly, I don't need to. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>feel the need to partner or join or whatever with

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<v Speaker 1>anyone because I know that the work that I put in.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's been very insulting some of the offers that

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<v Speaker 1>I've gotten, Like the offers have been something that you

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<v Speaker 1>would get when you first start. But I've been like

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<v Speaker 1>six seven years in of like busting my behind and

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<v Speaker 1>working really hard and to come with offers that just

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<v Speaker 1>seem like either you have not done your research or

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<v Speaker 1>you think that you're going to be able to trick me.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the part that makes me like slightly just disappointed.

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<v Speaker 1>Is because it's like either you don't care about what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing or you think that I'm stupid, because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just like, what what am I five years?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>This is babysitting money.

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<v Speaker 1>No, So I'm taking a roundbreak for people who undervalue

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<v Speaker 1>what I bring to the table. If you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna partner with someone or you're gonna connect with someone, please.

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<v Speaker 3>Do your research.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you don't have, you know, the funds or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>that's fine, but don't insult people, especially people who really

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<v Speaker 1>work really, really hard, because you know, no one has

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<v Speaker 1>to say yes. That's one thing I've learned, Like twenty

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen for me is a year of no. I have

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<v Speaker 1>no problem with it rolling off my tongue, Tiffany, would

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<v Speaker 1>you like nope, nope, no, no, nope. So I'm practicing

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<v Speaker 1>no and no is a complete sentence. And so I'm

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<v Speaker 1>taking just a brown break from that just because it

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<v Speaker 1>has really rubbed me the wrong way. And I'm just like, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess because I've just been so tired. I've been

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<v Speaker 1>working so hard, and so when somebody steps to you

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<v Speaker 1>it's something that's insulting.

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<v Speaker 3>You're like, not even like remotely, like.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I could see how No, just straight insulting, like

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<v Speaker 1>let's see if you could trick this girl.

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<v Speaker 3>The answer is now. So that's my brown break coops Mike.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I don't even want to follow that up with anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's just get me this week.

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<v Speaker 1>You can borrow something light or are there any fashion

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<v Speaker 1>trends that you want to take a brown break from me?

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<v Speaker 2>Like fashion trends, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, we could do something light.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. I did take a brown break from apps on

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<v Speaker 2>my phone this week, specific apps, apps that suck my

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<v Speaker 2>money dry. I went through, I deleted. I told you

0:19:23.040 --> 0:19:25.840
<v Speaker 2>I was taking like a spending break, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just because I feel like I've been spending money on

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<v Speaker 2>things that don't bring me true happiness. And also weddings

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<v Speaker 2>cost money, I've heard, so I deleted all the apps.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't think people realize how much money flows

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<v Speaker 2>through their phone. And maybe it's for the younger generations,

0:19:42.119 --> 0:19:43.879
<v Speaker 2>but like I pay my bills through my phone, I

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<v Speaker 2>shop through my phone. I was sitting, Okay, I hope

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<v Speaker 2>he doesn't listen. Christmas Eve, we were at we were

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<v Speaker 2>at future husband's parents' apartment and his brother showed up

0:19:53.800 --> 0:19:55.400
<v Speaker 2>and I didn't really realize who was going to be there,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, oh crap, I didn't get his

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<v Speaker 2>brother a gift for Christmas. Pull out my phone. I

0:20:02.040 --> 0:20:05.040
<v Speaker 2>covertly go on Amazon dot com the Amazon app, buy

0:20:05.119 --> 0:20:08.040
<v Speaker 2>him a gift card, email it to him, delivered at midnight, bam,

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<v Speaker 2>like within two minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>Awesome. But then the.

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<v Speaker 2>Money's gone, and it's like, it's amazing because you have

0:20:13.040 --> 0:20:15.400
<v Speaker 2>that you know, that flexibility or whatever. But it's also

0:20:16.160 --> 0:20:18.760
<v Speaker 2>I checked. I have this. I'm using this new app

0:20:18.800 --> 0:20:22.080
<v Speaker 2>call Level. Okay, what's it called Level. It's a budgeting

0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:25.000
<v Speaker 2>app called Level Okay. I like it better than Mint,

0:20:25.080 --> 0:20:27.200
<v Speaker 2>and I encourage you to check it out before just

0:20:27.240 --> 0:20:30.760
<v Speaker 2>people listening, because it doesn't just you can have all

0:20:30.760 --> 0:20:32.840
<v Speaker 2>your accounts in one place like Mint, which is cool,

0:20:32.880 --> 0:20:35.040
<v Speaker 2>and you can set goals and stuff, but it just

0:20:35.119 --> 0:20:37.840
<v Speaker 2>tells you. It goes through your accounts, sees how much

0:20:37.840 --> 0:20:39.879
<v Speaker 2>you have, looks at your goals, and tells you how

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<v Speaker 2>much you can afford to spend two day.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh I like that? Is it free?

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<v Speaker 2>It's free? Yeah, I just I just found it today.

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<v Speaker 2>It tells you how to how much you can spend today.

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<v Speaker 2>This week and this month the three days.

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<v Speaker 3>I like that level.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna, you know, let me text that for myself

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<v Speaker 1>because people always ask me like, I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>shade to Men. A lot of people I know love Mint,

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<v Speaker 1>but a lot of the the push back I get

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<v Speaker 1>from because I've never used Men is that it's a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit complicated.

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<v Speaker 2>It's super complicated, and so.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, so a lot of my dream catchers, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the people you know who follow the budgetese. I'm always like, like,

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<v Speaker 1>do you know if any other apps? But because I

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<v Speaker 1>like actually enjoy budgeting, like when I'm stressed out, like

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<v Speaker 1>I budget for fun, so I don't use apps. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a paper and pencil Excel type of girl, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm never able to tell them we'll try this,

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what, I like that level.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm looking at the level.

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<v Speaker 2>Ments to pain in the ass because the whole purpose

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<v Speaker 2>of ment and other and not just meant. I've used

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<v Speaker 2>other ones to like learn best a personal capital, and

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<v Speaker 2>I just always test them out. It's because they are

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to track your expenses. But like if you live

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<v Speaker 2>in a city where like you don't go to the

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<v Speaker 2>like name brand stories every day, like if I go

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<v Speaker 2>to the bodega or I take a yellow cab, they

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<v Speaker 2>don't recognize the merchant and so they don't categorize it.

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<v Speaker 2>So you got to go categorize all. Like at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the month, I have like dozens of transactions

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<v Speaker 2>I have to manually.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, that's too much.

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<v Speaker 2>So much.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't want you to have an app show because.

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<v Speaker 1>People ask all the time, like someone hit me up

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<v Speaker 1>and they're like, oh, what do you and Mandy think about?

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<v Speaker 1>You know this app or this I feel like we

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<v Speaker 1>should have like not necessarily a whole show, but maybe

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<v Speaker 1>our favorite app of the moment or something like you

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<v Speaker 1>know how we're gonna do our books if we get

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<v Speaker 1>a chance. Oh yeah, you know, just because there's so

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<v Speaker 1>many free like websites or apps or stuff that we're

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<v Speaker 1>using that that's really working that we can kind of share.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that'll be fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let this be the first one.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so level let's try and left. I'm excited to try.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'm like on my phone trying to be likes.

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<v Speaker 2>The best because I mean, you need it's just a

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<v Speaker 2>little reminder, Like I'm looking at it right now. I

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<v Speaker 2>have fifty four dollars left I can spend today, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh great, I'm gonna be fifty five bucks

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<v Speaker 2>ahead tomorrow because I'm not going on tonight. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 2>to help me not resist the temptation, I deleted Seamless.

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<v Speaker 2>I deleted Amazon's app. I deleted what are the other ones? Uber?

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<v Speaker 2>I deleted which was kind of hard, and Lift. I

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<v Speaker 2>deleted and group on. Oh and I was I used

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<v Speaker 2>to be a group on Attic. I deleted that just

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<v Speaker 2>a little just a little apps for like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>little bits of money would just disappear. Like I was

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<v Speaker 2>constantly buying books on Kindle on my phone and stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>and so got rid of those. And I'm feeling I've

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<v Speaker 2>been a weekend and I'm I'm feeling okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Another thing you can turn off is that like

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<v Speaker 1>one click Amazon. That thing is the devil honey.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, that it was on my phone too.

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<v Speaker 3>What I didn't even want to it is not just that.

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<v Speaker 2>But the id I could I use my finger to

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<v Speaker 2>like buy music or buy something on iTunes and Amazon

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<v Speaker 2>You can use your finger now.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>And that means it's whoever convented that clearly genius. So

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that's kudos to you. But I turned off

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<v Speaker 1>my one click option and so like it's it gives

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<v Speaker 1>me a choice one click or now it says like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, buy it the regular way, because sometimes you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you go through the process and then you're like what

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<v Speaker 1>am I doing?

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<v Speaker 3>What am I doing? And then you'll stop.

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<v Speaker 1>And so now I forced myself to go through because

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<v Speaker 1>now it's not automatically one click because it's just that's.

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<v Speaker 3>Just too much.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I was buying things that I was never

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<v Speaker 1>going to use. Although I did buy a new book today.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait till we talk about books because I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I bought a new book and I'm excited to share. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe i'll share my other book. But yeah, we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>to that. So your brown break is bringing it on home?

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<v Speaker 1>What is your round brak?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, yeah, I went on a Tiffany roller coaster. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>my brown break is the apps that suck my money dry.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, you're taking a break from someone money sucking dry apps.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm trying at the level app and again at

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<v Speaker 2>the level L E V E L check it out.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I'm gonna have level by next week. I'll be

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<v Speaker 3>able to talk to you.

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<v Speaker 2>About it cool. So for tips today, we have a

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<v Speaker 2>really excellent reader question that I wanted to go over.

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<v Speaker 2>I love this question so much on so many different

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<v Speaker 2>levels because I think it personifies a bunch of like

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<v Speaker 2>mistakes that a lot of people make early in their career.

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<v Speaker 2>And thank you Jonita for putting yourself out there for

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<v Speaker 2>us to nitpick. But it's a long emails. Let me

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<v Speaker 2>try and paraphrase. So Jonita just graduated twenty fourteen, so

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<v Speaker 2>just a couple of years ago, like less than two

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<v Speaker 2>years ago. She wanted to work for or a education nonprofit,

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<v Speaker 2>and luckily for me, the education the organization that provided

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<v Speaker 2>part of my college funding, loves me and recommended me

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<v Speaker 2>for a job with one of those nonprofits. I had

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<v Speaker 2>no admin experience, but there I was two months out

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<v Speaker 2>of college, making twenty eight K working as a part

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<v Speaker 2>time office manager for a great organization. Then a year later,

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<v Speaker 2>well it sounds like my first job. I was told

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<v Speaker 2>they were looking to phase me out in order to

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<v Speaker 2>bring in someone who could do my job in addition

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<v Speaker 2>to taking care of other accounting and business needs. She'd

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<v Speaker 2>only studied sociology and didn't have any desire to do accounting,

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<v Speaker 2>So this is awful. So of course she was shocked,

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm shocked. I was disappointed, and I didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>what I was going to do. So this past September, she,

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<v Speaker 2>after submitting a dozen resumes and going on a few interviews,

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<v Speaker 2>she had a job offer. She immediately accepted the job

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<v Speaker 2>on the spot. It was a job doing what she

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to do. It was in my field, and I

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<v Speaker 2>had no other prospect, she said, so why not Shell.

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<v Speaker 2>So you accepted it without even asking what the salary was.

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<v Speaker 2>And then she says, then on my first day of work,

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<v Speaker 2>I discovered why I should have thought harder about this.

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<v Speaker 2>The position was a contract positioned through the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the school year and only paid fifty fifteen hundred dollars

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<v Speaker 2>a month before taxes. She said, I had just taken

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<v Speaker 2>a giant pay cut. So here I am three months later,

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<v Speaker 2>trying to work out my boyfriend and I's budget to

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<v Speaker 2>make sure we can still eat after paying rent, utilities

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<v Speaker 2>an individual and paying out our bills. She lives in Washington,

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<v Speaker 2>d C. Which is super expensive. Yes it is, and

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<v Speaker 2>neither of our parents have room in their homes for

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<v Speaker 2>us to live, so we are stuck so she sang,

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<v Speaker 2>all of this is to ask what should I do.

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<v Speaker 2>I love my job and everyone's great, but I'm at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of my rope. Should I start looking for

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<v Speaker 2>a new full time position? And if so, how should

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<v Speaker 2>I handle putting this position on my resume? I think

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<v Speaker 2>I can totally relate to. First of all, I can

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<v Speaker 2>relate because my first job in New York City, I

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<v Speaker 2>was laid off three months after I After I got

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<v Speaker 2>the job, she was super fun. I didn't even have

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<v Speaker 2>a bed frame or like a mattress. H No, it's okay,

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<v Speaker 2>it's funny now. And not only that, but I left

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<v Speaker 2>that job. I left a job in Georgia, a good job,

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<v Speaker 2>full time as a newspaper reporter. I got that job

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<v Speaker 2>in two weeks later, the magazine in New York called

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<v Speaker 2>me to see if I wanted a job there, and

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<v Speaker 2>so I ended up quitting that newspaper job, solid job

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<v Speaker 2>with benefits after only a month of working there, and

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<v Speaker 2>then move into New York only to then be let

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<v Speaker 2>go three months later. So I can I can tell

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<v Speaker 2>you how to handle like putting a job on your

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<v Speaker 2>resume that we're only there for a short period of time.

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<v Speaker 2>I can handle that and then also that feeling of

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<v Speaker 2>desperation when you lose your job and then you just

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<v Speaker 2>go for the first thing that comes your way. And

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<v Speaker 2>I understand that it can be stressful because obviously you

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<v Speaker 2>have to have a job. You get a job offer,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're so stoked it's in your job field. But

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<v Speaker 2>I think the mistake here was clearly not asking upfront

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<v Speaker 2>the two crucial questions how much does this pay? And

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<v Speaker 2>is it full time? And I feel like the freelance economy,

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<v Speaker 2>like it's so common now for employers to only have

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<v Speaker 2>contract work, which is essentially where you're working on a timeframe,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't get benefits, and your job is up in like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, three months, six months. I've worked at places

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<v Speaker 2>where people are on a two month contract and they

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<v Speaker 2>just have to get they have to like wait on

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<v Speaker 2>tenter hooks every two months to see if their contract

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<v Speaker 2>is going to be renewed. And it's like not a

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<v Speaker 2>good way to live. So I understand how you found

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<v Speaker 2>yourself in this position, but you can't go back. But

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<v Speaker 2>I would say anyone who's in the position now, like

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<v Speaker 2>don't just take the first off, or you have to

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<v Speaker 2>ask questions and you shouldn't feel you shouldn't feel shy.

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<v Speaker 2>I know she just graduated, you know, less than two

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<v Speaker 2>years ago, so she's just you know, inexperienced. But I

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<v Speaker 2>think in her case, maybe practicing or asking someone who

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<v Speaker 2>is experienced about a job before just kind of jumping

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<v Speaker 2>at it would have been a smart way to approach that.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hm.

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<v Speaker 1>So moving forward, what do you I mean? I think

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<v Speaker 1>for sure she needs to be looking.

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<v Speaker 2>For Oh, no joke. Yeah, you should absolutely be looking.

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<v Speaker 2>And your job's a contract job anyway, like they they

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<v Speaker 2>should not be. I don't know. I feel like when

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<v Speaker 2>you're when you hire a contractor, I feel like you

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<v Speaker 2>have less you have less right to be upset if

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<v Speaker 2>they leave. Yeah, they leave because you're telling them right

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<v Speaker 2>off the bat, we're not interested in investing in you

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<v Speaker 2>for the long term. So you know, why should you

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<v Speaker 2>be sitting around waiting for them?

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<v Speaker 1>So you should be aggressively looking for a job because

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<v Speaker 1>you don't. It doesn't make sense if you're worried about

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<v Speaker 1>do we have enough to buy food? Don't put yourself

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<v Speaker 1>in that position unnecessarily or stay in that position.

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<v Speaker 3>And so yeah, definitely look for another job.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is something really for you though, Mandy, because

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<v Speaker 1>I have not had to write a resume in so

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<v Speaker 1>many years, and like probably like ten years. So how

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<v Speaker 1>do you how does she handle that on her resume?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you put you put it on there. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you have a pretty thin resume because you've only had

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<v Speaker 2>two jobs since you graduated. It sounds like and I

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<v Speaker 2>think that your future employer should understand that when they

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<v Speaker 2>hire someone your age who's recently graduated. And I say,

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<v Speaker 2>you tell them the truth. I say, the first job

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<v Speaker 2>you obviously you were laid off, and you don't write

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<v Speaker 2>that on your resume. Of course, I absolutely put the

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<v Speaker 2>magazine where I worked on my resume. I did not

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<v Speaker 2>put that I was laid off. I put all the

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<v Speaker 2>great things I did there, of course, and then I put,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the few months.

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<v Speaker 3>That I work there.

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<v Speaker 2>If they cared to look at it and do the

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<v Speaker 2>math and find out that I was only three months,

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<v Speaker 2>then maybe they asked. But I can't remember. Like I

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<v Speaker 2>think that we overestimate how much time employers have. Hiring

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<v Speaker 2>managers have to like review resumes, and sometimes they don't

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<v Speaker 2>catch that kind of stuff. But if they do, you

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<v Speaker 2>answer truthfully and you say, okay, well they were looking

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<v Speaker 2>for someone with accounting experience and I didn't have those skills,

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<v Speaker 2>and so we decided to part ways. Make it seem

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<v Speaker 2>like it was a mutual decision, you know. And for

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<v Speaker 2>the other job, since your resume is thin, I would

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<v Speaker 2>say put that on there as well. You you may

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<v Speaker 2>maybe you haven't worked there long, but you are gathering

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<v Speaker 2>skills and experience in your field. If your future employee

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<v Speaker 2>employer asks, you, know, why did you decide to leave,

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<v Speaker 2>you can say it was a contract position and I

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<v Speaker 2>knew that it wasn't full time, and I wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>find something. I wanted to find a place where I

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<v Speaker 2>could work that would fully invest in me the same

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<v Speaker 2>way that I want to invest in that in that place.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that that should suffice like I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't, I don't see I don't see someone digging

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<v Speaker 2>so much into that, and like, you know that being

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<v Speaker 2>a complete deal breaker.

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<v Speaker 1>And plus you're young. You have to understand that. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're under assuming you're under twenty five, they're not

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<v Speaker 1>looking like where is have twenty years of experience, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>So this is part of this your your resume building.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's it's typical for somebody in your age range

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<v Speaker 1>and to have this level of experience. So it's okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we've all made those mistakes and choices and so now

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, okay, I've recognized that. So the next time,

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm I'm going to do is this. So just

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<v Speaker 1>put that into perspective.

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<v Speaker 2>But I would say, also, never leave an interview before

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<v Speaker 2>you know, not the first interview, but maybe the second interview.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to talk about numbers, and it can be

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<v Speaker 2>it sounds to me like whoever hired you was really

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<v Speaker 2>incompetent and wasn't experienced, Because as a hiring manager, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't want an employee signing on to a job they

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what the damn salary is like that, because

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<v Speaker 2>you want to give that employee a chance to actually

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<v Speaker 2>agree to what they're getting paid or else, all you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna get is an eployee's unhappy. Probably, So if they

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<v Speaker 2>don't bring it up, though, if they are inexperienced and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, not professional, they maybe not bring it up.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to ask, you know, you have to say,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we've had a couple of interviews. I'm very

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<v Speaker 2>interested in this position. I love the company. I wondered

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<v Speaker 2>if we can now talk about compensation.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's a great line right there. Women always think

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<v Speaker 1>like it's so crazy, Like when my sister left her

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<v Speaker 1>financial job that she hated and was like looking for

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<v Speaker 1>another job.

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<v Speaker 3>My sister has her MBA in finance and.

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<v Speaker 1>A and she got a it's a duel something like

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<v Speaker 1>finance and marketing something crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm like and she's like, oh, I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>if I'm like, you have your NBA. Why is that? Women?

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<v Speaker 3>For real?

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<v Speaker 1>Even the place where she was working before her boss

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have her NBA. So I'm just like, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>we women have such a hard time like owning up

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<v Speaker 1>and owning the fact that I'm dope, you know so,

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<v Speaker 1>And I know it's hard, you know, but and it's

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<v Speaker 1>to our detriment, Like you're taking these things that are

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<v Speaker 1>less than thinking, like well, if you.

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<v Speaker 3>Are a man, man you'd be like how much I'm out?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you have to look at it this way too.

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, you're working with she says, in some

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<v Speaker 2>ways she works with students. Oh yeah, they in her

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<v Speaker 2>field is working with to give college access to low

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<v Speaker 2>income students. These this is a group of people, these

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<v Speaker 2>young people from hard backgrounds, they're gonna need you to

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<v Speaker 2>give a lot, like emotionally, mentally they're gonna need. But

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<v Speaker 2>how can you expect to give them anything when you

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<v Speaker 2>haven't given yourself anything. You're expecting anything for yourself, and

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<v Speaker 2>you have to make sure that you're getting compensated in

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<v Speaker 2>a way that matches the work you're doing. And I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like women often give, give, give, and they don't

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<v Speaker 2>give to themselves in that way or like don't expect

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<v Speaker 2>to be given what they're actually do. So and again

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<v Speaker 2>she's so young, You're gonna learn, but I mean hopefully

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<v Speaker 2>you learn sooner rather than later, because there's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of women who, you know, think the same way. Like

0:34:26.280 --> 0:34:29.000
<v Speaker 2>she says, I'd hate to disappoint them, my employer or

0:34:29.040 --> 0:34:31.319
<v Speaker 2>the students I work with, but I'm at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of my rope. Well, listen to yourself, like the students

0:34:35.280 --> 0:34:38.160
<v Speaker 2>and the employer, Like, honestly, they're not paying the bills.

0:34:38.200 --> 0:34:40.160
<v Speaker 2>I mean, well they are, but they're not like they're

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna be there for you five years down their row.

0:34:42.160 --> 0:34:44.080
<v Speaker 2>When you have like no savings. You really have to

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<v Speaker 2>look out for yourself. You need deserve it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, that's the thing. It is your first priority to

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<v Speaker 3>look after yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I am so, miss Jonita. We hope that helped.

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<v Speaker 2>If you have any other questions and anyone else. If

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<v Speaker 2>you have questions, us at Brown Ambition Podcasts at gmail

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<v Speaker 2>dot com. All right, so this week instead of wins,

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<v Speaker 2>we talked about this before we wanted to do trying

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about People have always asked us, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what sort of books help you in your career and financially.

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<v Speaker 2>So this week Tiffany wants to share. Tiffany tell the class, Hey, class.

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<v Speaker 3>So, one of my favorite books of all time. And

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<v Speaker 3>actually I got the suggestion on Facebook.

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<v Speaker 1>I had read so I think we talked about write

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<v Speaker 1>the Alchemist when we talked about books last and I

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<v Speaker 1>told you how much I loved The Alchemist. So I

0:35:49.960 --> 0:35:51.799
<v Speaker 1>wanted a new book, and I wrote, like a year

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<v Speaker 1>or two ago, like, hey, Facebook friends, I love the Alchemists.

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<v Speaker 3>Is there any other book that's like that?

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of has that energy, beautifully written a little

0:35:59.440 --> 0:36:02.759
<v Speaker 1>bit of spiritual, but really just about bettering yourself. And

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<v Speaker 1>someone suggested this book and it sounded so strange. It's

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<v Speaker 1>called Jonathan Livingston Seagull. Have you ever heard of that?

0:36:10.360 --> 0:36:13.719
<v Speaker 2>That's the book title. Yes, I never heard of it.

0:36:13.719 --> 0:36:16.880
<v Speaker 1>It's almost like, okay, it's almost like, don't be fooled

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<v Speaker 1>by the book title. It's an amazing book and I

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<v Speaker 1>have to say it is one of my favorite books

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<v Speaker 1>just period.

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<v Speaker 3>It is so beautifully written.

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<v Speaker 1>And so it's about a seagull, which seems weird and

0:36:29.120 --> 0:36:32.080
<v Speaker 1>at first you're like, wait, what, but it's the seagull

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<v Speaker 1>is a metaphor for the type of person that you

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<v Speaker 1>want to be. So there's a seagull named Jonathan Livingston.

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<v Speaker 3>Seagull.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, he has pred and he starts off like every

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<v Speaker 1>other seagull like, but he's a little bit different. And

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<v Speaker 1>then the rest of the seagulls are just chasing basic life,

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<v Speaker 1>which is fish flying, but just flying just high enough to,

0:36:53.400 --> 0:36:56.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, to to catch fish, because seagulls kind of

0:36:56.040 --> 0:36:58.440
<v Speaker 1>dive into the water to catch fish. So most seagulls

0:36:58.480 --> 0:37:01.719
<v Speaker 1>are living at a low frequency, like low vibration. They

0:37:01.719 --> 0:37:03.440
<v Speaker 1>don't do any more than what they have to do.

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<v Speaker 1>But Jonathan and Livingston seagull, he starts to see flying

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<v Speaker 1>as a means to take himself to the next level,

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<v Speaker 1>and so he starts to practice to see if he

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<v Speaker 1>can fly faster, and the rest of the seagulls they

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<v Speaker 1>can't get it, so they kind of ostracize him because

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, well, it should be you should be happy

0:37:20.239 --> 0:37:24.040
<v Speaker 1>with just living enough of a life to cover your basics.

0:37:24.080 --> 0:37:27.200
<v Speaker 1>And he's like, no, that there's more to life, and

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<v Speaker 1>I want to chase after that more. I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>know what that more is, so the story kind of

0:37:30.719 --> 0:37:33.759
<v Speaker 1>like follows him. It's really it's a short book, but

0:37:33.840 --> 0:37:36.440
<v Speaker 1>it's so well written, and like I said, it's beautifully written,

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<v Speaker 1>and it actually has you look at yourself and you

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<v Speaker 1>think to yourself, am I like the rest of the seagulls?

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<v Speaker 1>Where I'm doing just enough, just to live, just enough

0:37:44.239 --> 0:37:47.520
<v Speaker 1>to pay bills, just enough, you know, so that way

0:37:47.680 --> 0:37:51.000
<v Speaker 1>I can afford my rent. I'm not really reaching beyond myself.

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<v Speaker 1>And I really suggest that book to anyone who is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of looking for that push to the next level.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really short, when I say really, sure you can

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<v Speaker 1>honestly read it like an hour, hour and a half.

0:38:02.960 --> 0:38:04.680
<v Speaker 1>But it's well written enough to kind of keep you

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<v Speaker 1>engaged because it's a story and it will help you.

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<v Speaker 3>I usually read it once a year.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll really motivate you to think to yourself, I want

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<v Speaker 1>more out of life. I don't want to just make

0:38:13.440 --> 0:38:15.880
<v Speaker 1>just enough or I don't want to just drive just

0:38:16.040 --> 0:38:19.440
<v Speaker 1>enough for like basic life. You know, I want more happiness.

0:38:19.520 --> 0:38:21.560
<v Speaker 1>I want joy I want I want to see how

0:38:21.600 --> 0:38:24.160
<v Speaker 1>far I can push myself, you know, to what levels

0:38:24.239 --> 0:38:26.719
<v Speaker 1>can I really reach? So yep, so just google. I mean,

0:38:26.800 --> 0:38:27.640
<v Speaker 1>there's only one book.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one hundred and twelve pages.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, super sure, I'm telling you, Mandy, I think you

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<v Speaker 1>really like it. Jonathan Livingston Seagull. I bought it from

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<v Speaker 1>my kindle. I don't always like read. If something's really

0:38:37.120 --> 0:38:39.279
<v Speaker 1>meaty and heavy, I like, I like to get the

0:38:39.280 --> 0:38:42.560
<v Speaker 1>physical book. But if something is like like I wouldn't

0:38:42.560 --> 0:38:44.400
<v Speaker 1>say it's fun, but something's like a little bit lighter,

0:38:44.440 --> 0:38:45.799
<v Speaker 1>I like to read it on my kindle. And so

0:38:45.880 --> 0:38:47.719
<v Speaker 1>this is definitely a great kindle read like on the

0:38:47.760 --> 0:38:50.800
<v Speaker 1>train or like you know, headed home from work or whatever.

0:38:50.920 --> 0:38:53.040
<v Speaker 1>You'll finish it fairly quickly and you'll think.

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<v Speaker 2>Me, okay, well she seems sure of herself. All right,

0:39:00.360 --> 0:39:02.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna check it out. Meanwhile, I read a three

0:39:03.080 --> 0:39:06.719
<v Speaker 2>book crime series and like a weekend, like you know what,

0:39:06.840 --> 0:39:09.680
<v Speaker 2>you read so much and so quickly, like I haven't

0:39:09.719 --> 0:39:12.279
<v Speaker 2>read like that since probably college, where I just like

0:39:12.600 --> 0:39:14.880
<v Speaker 2>devour books in a weekend and then I have this

0:39:14.960 --> 0:39:19.000
<v Speaker 2>like book hangover where I am like where I am,

0:39:19.160 --> 0:39:21.960
<v Speaker 2>I feel tired and dehydrated. But then also I'm just

0:39:22.000 --> 0:39:24.399
<v Speaker 2>like Craven the next hit. I'm like wit and there's

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<v Speaker 2>no fourth book, and I'm just like it's the It's

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<v Speaker 2>the Cormoran Strike novels. This has nothing to do with

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<v Speaker 2>inspiring anybody. It's a crime. It's a it is like

0:39:33.160 --> 0:39:35.600
<v Speaker 2>the fruits of a nice holiday vacation. I just read

0:39:35.600 --> 0:39:38.680
<v Speaker 2>these three books. But it's the cormer In Strikes novels.

0:39:39.520 --> 0:39:41.480
<v Speaker 2>It's Cormoran. It's kind of a weird word. C O

0:39:41.680 --> 0:39:45.800
<v Speaker 2>R O M A N. I'm written by Robert Galbraith,

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<v Speaker 2>which who happens to be jk Rowling, who happened to

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<v Speaker 2>write Harry Potter. I know I'm a Harry Brady.

0:39:53.800 --> 0:39:53.880
<v Speaker 4>No.

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<v Speaker 2>But my brother, my little brother got in for me

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<v Speaker 2>for Christmas. And it's so different than I mean, it's

0:39:58.600 --> 0:40:01.479
<v Speaker 2>nothing like Harry Potter. It's a suspense. It's a grown

0:40:01.560 --> 0:40:05.600
<v Speaker 2>up novel. Like there's sex, drugs, alcohol, serial killers, people

0:40:05.680 --> 0:40:08.360
<v Speaker 2>chopping up bodies. But anyway, it was a good book.

0:40:08.440 --> 0:40:10.920
<v Speaker 2>So and you cannot read that in an hour. There

0:40:10.920 --> 0:40:13.719
<v Speaker 2>were hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of pages, but they

0:40:13.760 --> 0:40:16.279
<v Speaker 2>were good. I love a good crime novel.

0:40:16.239 --> 0:40:18.200
<v Speaker 1>And honestly, you know what, I'm not want to you

0:40:18.239 --> 0:40:20.480
<v Speaker 1>know how some people are like, oh, you know, I

0:40:20.520 --> 0:40:24.160
<v Speaker 1>love you know, graphic novels, or I love romance novels.

0:40:24.200 --> 0:40:26.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm like a very you know, I cheat on all

0:40:26.560 --> 0:40:29.279
<v Speaker 1>the genres. Like sometimes I love romance novels when i'm

0:40:29.320 --> 0:40:32.960
<v Speaker 1>into them. Sometimes I love inspirational books, I read business books.

0:40:32.960 --> 0:40:35.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't have a particular genre that I stick to.

0:40:36.320 --> 0:40:40.000
<v Speaker 1>I just like good writing, and I shouldn't.

0:40:39.560 --> 0:40:39.759
<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I'm just I used to be such an

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<v Speaker 1>average I mean, I still read probably more than an average,

0:40:44.200 --> 0:40:47.000
<v Speaker 1>but I used to be like two books a week

0:40:47.080 --> 0:40:49.440
<v Speaker 1>type of reader, like at least, you know, and I

0:40:49.480 --> 0:40:51.560
<v Speaker 1>want to kind of get back to because reading to

0:40:51.640 --> 0:40:55.080
<v Speaker 1>me is really relaxing and I love learning new things

0:40:55.200 --> 0:40:58.279
<v Speaker 1>and taking those new things, even if, like you know,

0:40:58.480 --> 0:41:00.000
<v Speaker 1>I've never been into like the crime because I don't

0:41:00.200 --> 0:41:03.200
<v Speaker 1>like gory, scary things, so they stick with me. But

0:41:03.880 --> 0:41:06.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm definitely into like crime as it relates to like Ooh,

0:41:06.760 --> 0:41:09.080
<v Speaker 1>that's an interesting way to think about stuff.

0:41:09.280 --> 0:41:11.200
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, maybe I'll read is it really graphic.

0:41:10.960 --> 0:41:12.960
<v Speaker 2>Because I'm like, maybe don't read the third Yeah, it's

0:41:13.000 --> 0:41:15.680
<v Speaker 2>pretty graphic. I mean the third book there's a serial

0:41:15.719 --> 0:41:17.520
<v Speaker 2>killer who drops up women's bodies and puts them in

0:41:17.560 --> 0:41:18.000
<v Speaker 2>the freezer.

0:41:18.120 --> 0:41:20.080
<v Speaker 3>So oh yeah, so I'm just gonna stay with Matt.

0:41:20.160 --> 0:41:21.759
<v Speaker 3>But you know when you.

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<v Speaker 2>Read a book though, and it's like a light outside

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<v Speaker 2>in the morning and then it's like dark outside when

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<v Speaker 2>you finally come up for air and you have to

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<v Speaker 2>turn the lights on and stuff like, yeah, like that's

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<v Speaker 2>the kind of deep reading.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all that notes episode Yes, Episode twenty is a

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<v Speaker 1>rap skiz.

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<v Speaker 3>It's been so fun as usual chatting with you, Mandy.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for taking your break from you're busy entrepreneur life.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, I'm just like, well, no, honestly, I love this

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<v Speaker 1>is It's brown ambition is like one of the few

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<v Speaker 1>constants in my life, you know, because weekly we do this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like I make time for this and it just

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<v Speaker 1>feels good to like take a break. Laugh because when

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing this with you, I can't like do extra

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<v Speaker 1>things on the side. I can't multitask. I have to

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<v Speaker 1>remain present, so thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>I get jealous, so better that way, all right, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>Well you know how to reach us. You can email

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<v Speaker 2>us at Brown Ambition Podcast at gmail dot com, tweet

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<v Speaker 2>us at the BA Podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>Oop.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, go ahead now I was gonna say the BA podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>You can sweet if you know that's the one I remember.

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<v Speaker 1>And you can Facebook us or you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, right on our wall Brown Ambition on Facebook.

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<v Speaker 2>Happy weekend, See you guys next week. Bye,