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<v Speaker 1>Who was presented to collab with Usher and he turned

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<v Speaker 1>it down and he's like, Damn, I shouldn't have did that.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna hate me for this one Oh jay Z

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<v Speaker 2>for real.

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<v Speaker 3>Diddy, Damn and Me was supposed to be a group.

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<v Speaker 4>All my life, grinding all my life, sacrifics, hustle pact

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, Welcome to a vari's edition of Club Shay Shay.

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<v Speaker 1>I am your hole Shannon Sharp. I'm also the propriud

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<v Speaker 1>of Club Sha Shak and for this one, we got

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<v Speaker 1>a whopper for you. He's an eight time Grammy Award

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<v Speaker 1>winning pop icon, a multi gold, platinum, and diamond selling artist.

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<v Speaker 1>He received the last certified Diamond by a black artist.

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<v Speaker 1>He a generation defining megastar, singer, songwriter, producer, actor, dancer,

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<v Speaker 1>all around entertainer. One of the most influential voices and

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<v Speaker 1>accomplished singers in the world. One of the most successful

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<v Speaker 1>pop and RB artists of the twentieth century and early

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<v Speaker 1>twenty first century. He's been active in the game for

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<v Speaker 1>three decades. An NBA championship owner of the Cleveland Cavaliers.

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<v Speaker 1>And please, whatever you do, do not leave your girl

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<v Speaker 1>or your wife around this man. He's an international sex symbol,

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<v Speaker 1>a successor to Michael Jackson, the.

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<v Speaker 6>King, the King of R and B, mister usher Shaw.

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<v Speaker 6>I'll do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let's go ahead. You got your own, you got

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<v Speaker 1>your ranby, I got my shape.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, by the way, only in the best, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying, we bring out the best. You know China,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying now. But you got it

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<v Speaker 2>in the brock of rock glass here in Las Vegas.

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<v Speaker 2>Enjoy it, man, I'll figured I come having a drink

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<v Speaker 2>with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I should appreciate that. I appreciate that. Yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 1>And you get to say, who was sitting down having

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<v Speaker 1>a drinking conversation? But you see who it is now, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>How you doing.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been good, bro.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we've been out here man and Vegas. Man,

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<v Speaker 2>just really enjoying the time. You know. It's spent an

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<v Speaker 2>amazing almost one hundred shows and I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>there's anybody that's been able to track this fast to

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred.

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<v Speaker 3>Shows, you know, but it's been great.

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<v Speaker 6>Man. The super Bowl?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, was that always in the back of your mind?

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<v Speaker 1>Or where were you when you got the call that's like, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>we want you to do the super Bowl?

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<v Speaker 2>Was it always in the back of my It's in

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<v Speaker 2>the back of every artist's mind really?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, of course.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean as many times as we've seen performers kind

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<v Speaker 2>of have an entire career, right, a legacy career, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>to have that moment. I mean, you can win awards,

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<v Speaker 2>you can travel around the world, have fits everywhere, play arenas, stadiums,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying. Yeah, I know. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>like that is it's a lot of pressure over me, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>but but but it is it's a dream, I guess

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<v Speaker 2>for everyone, and I'd always wanted to go there, had

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<v Speaker 2>the opportunity to go there, you know, with the Black

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<v Speaker 2>Eyed p Yeah, sog so after being bitten by that moment,

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, I gotta go back again.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it's well overdue, but you know what I'm saying, definitely.

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<v Speaker 1>But you didn't want to go back. You wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>go back as a headliner. You want to do your

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<v Speaker 1>own thing. Now, how do you talk what you did?

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<v Speaker 1>Because remember you jumped over wheel I am you hit

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<v Speaker 1>the split and so now people are like, okay, thusher

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<v Speaker 1>by himself, what's he going to do the top back?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if I'm gonna have somebody to jump over.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, man, I think that this is a legacy, right, this, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>this entire career and everything that you had to say

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<v Speaker 2>about me, I really do appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 6>Did I leave anything out? Though?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I became a I got a doctorate this year. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so the city got a key to the city of

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<v Speaker 2>Las Vegas. Became a doctor at Berkeley. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it really kind of comes down to your ten

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<v Speaker 2>thousand hours, you know what I'm saying. And if you

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<v Speaker 2>worked hard, then you should be given that opportunity. Jay Z.

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<v Speaker 2>He reached out to me personally, right and so.

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<v Speaker 6>What was that called? So what was that called? Like?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, phone ring? You looked down. It's whole, Jay. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean you probably got it and your phone is over.

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<v Speaker 6>Jay.

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<v Speaker 1>You pick up the phone. You're like, man, I wonder

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<v Speaker 1>what are you calling me for? Okay, here's the conversation,

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<v Speaker 1>not what.

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<v Speaker 2>I had an idea that he might be calling. He

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<v Speaker 2>happened to be coming to town in Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 7>B was in Atlanta with the tour.

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<v Speaker 3>The tour so every time we're in Atlanta, we play spades.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, just so you know, me him one and I

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<v Speaker 2>have to pick my partner, you know, and the last

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<v Speaker 2>time they kind of gave it to me. So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>thinking he's getting ready to call me to say, yo,

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<v Speaker 2>pull up to you know, the arena or a stadium

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<v Speaker 2>and come get this work. And nah, he was like, no, Nah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not.

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<v Speaker 3>Calling about spades.

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<v Speaker 6>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, so, what what's up? He was like his time? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean yeah, it is five o'clock in the morning.

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<v Speaker 2>What you mean this to now? But it was early,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, And he said, you know, this is this

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<v Speaker 2>is the magic moment. This is the Michael moment. Actually

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<v Speaker 2>how you put it? And you know, are you ready?

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, well, you want to do it. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>first of all, I was a bit in denial. So

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<v Speaker 2>my girl walks in the room and I'm like, she's

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<v Speaker 2>like no way, He's like, yes way. It was like

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<v Speaker 2>he was in the room with us. Yeah, man, it was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was.

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<v Speaker 3>It was an incredible moment, man.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know some of the greatest have done. Prince

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<v Speaker 1>done the halftime and remember in Miami he was playing

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<v Speaker 1>purple Rain and it starts to rain. Yeah, Michael Jackson, Beyonce.

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<v Speaker 2>So everybody realized that God was a Prince fan and

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<v Speaker 2>man and man, it was playing and it started random purple.

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<v Speaker 6>It started ready for real.

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<v Speaker 1>So so how long is it gonna take you, because

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<v Speaker 1>we're probably about four three and a half four months away. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>how long is it gonna take you to put a

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<v Speaker 1>set together? Because it's not like your residency here and

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<v Speaker 1>we will get into that a little later. You probably

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<v Speaker 1>got fifteen twenty minutes to put something together that will

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<v Speaker 1>lead the people, that the people will remember for the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of their lives.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, exactly that right for your entire life, I guess

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<v Speaker 2>for the entire time that you've been building. That's how

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<v Speaker 2>long it took wow to prepare for that moment. It

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<v Speaker 2>didn't just start these few months that I have that lead.

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<v Speaker 3>Up to it.

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<v Speaker 2>It started, you know, thirty years ago, man, when I

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<v Speaker 2>decided that this is what I wanted to do, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know how to support my mama and a host

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<v Speaker 2>of an incredible a lot of people. Man. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>this journey is not just mine. To celebrate this everybody

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<v Speaker 2>that has something to do with it, from the beginning

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<v Speaker 2>in Chatta Nigger, Tennessee, making my way to Atlanta, sign

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<v Speaker 2>up with a record company at fourteen years old, then

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<v Speaker 2>having this incredible journey finding music, finding producers, finding sources

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<v Speaker 2>of inspiration, you know, and then moving on to other areas,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, finding artists and working and collaborating with other people.

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<v Speaker 2>So I celebrate all of that leading up to that moment.

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<v Speaker 2>So if anything, if you want to take note, the

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<v Speaker 2>preparation starts to date, working on it right now, then

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<v Speaker 2>hopefully you'll get there someday. But man, don't take those

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<v Speaker 2>you know, those those ten thousand hours lightly.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>We live in a time where you know, you can

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<v Speaker 2>have success overnight. I mean, you know, we have social

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<v Speaker 2>interaction that gives us access to everything, but you know

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<v Speaker 2>that work that you have to put in in order

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<v Speaker 2>to you know, own that moment and and deserve that

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<v Speaker 2>moment can't be taken lightly.

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<v Speaker 6>Any early super Bowl prediction.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably too early for me. Man.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, Bro, I come here to ask you

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<v Speaker 2>to be honest. I'm like, Yo, what you think you know?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, but somebody said, somebody says something by Miami,

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<v Speaker 2>somebody says something you know about.

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<v Speaker 3>Kansas, Kansas City, forty nine ers, somebody said something about

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<v Speaker 3>forty nine ers.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you're a Cowboy fan.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, I was born in Dallas, Texas

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<v Speaker 2>and have always been, you know, a fan, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>of the Cowboys throughout the years.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, so you know, who knows it could be

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<v Speaker 3>could be a good year. They seem to be getting

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<v Speaker 3>it together.

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<v Speaker 1>The new album Coming Home releases going to release on

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<v Speaker 1>the same day as the super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 6>That's not an accident, is it?

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<v Speaker 2>No? No?

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<v Speaker 3>No, that was that was strategic. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Part of it is, you know, paying tribute to the past,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, being present here in Las Vegas. What what

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<v Speaker 2>a surprise right to have an incredible residency run here,

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred shows I would have played by the end

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<v Speaker 2>of November, and then to have the treat of being

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<v Speaker 2>able to play the Super the Bowl, you know. So yeah, man,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, you know, here you have this this grand

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity that is almost like a crescendo of what started

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<v Speaker 2>off really in a pandemic. Right, People don't really know

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<v Speaker 2>that part. Right When I came to Las Vegas, it

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<v Speaker 2>was quiet, nobody was here, nothing was happening. People thought

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<v Speaker 2>I was crazy for putting tickets on sales, But to

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<v Speaker 2>be honest, it was belief. Belief that we would get

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<v Speaker 2>back to the norm you know what I'm saying, and

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<v Speaker 2>a time when the world just felt like upside down,

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<v Speaker 2>like what is normal anymore? We ain't been outside or

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<v Speaker 2>been into a concert hall or celebrated with each other.

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<v Speaker 3>In a year, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>And here you have this grand opportunity to start this

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<v Speaker 2>journey that now leads up to the Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>For me, so that moment was also for you because

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<v Speaker 1>you wanted to get outside. Also, you wanted to see

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<v Speaker 1>people because you were shut there and you wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>They was like, oh, man, I get you, but you

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<v Speaker 1>like usher.

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<v Speaker 6>Get a chance to see you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>The first thing that we did, we did a show

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<v Speaker 2>in Los Angeles for iHeartRadio, which was like the actual

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<v Speaker 2>first time I'd sing. And also to have been in

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<v Speaker 2>a room or anybody had been in a room in

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<v Speaker 2>La So that was the first thing. And then to

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<v Speaker 2>come to Las Vegas and then launch my residency successfully

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<v Speaker 2>as I said, you know the time that we spend

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<v Speaker 2>here now to be able to come here and celebrate.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, this this incredible moment.

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<v Speaker 1>This is your ninth solo album. Yeah, this is your

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<v Speaker 1>first and eight years. What can we expect?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, first, after the super Bowl, as you said, the

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<v Speaker 2>album comes out coming Home. We released one record so

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<v Speaker 2>far good good feature in Summer Walker, and also two

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<v Speaker 2>twenty one Savage number one record there. So really happy

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<v Speaker 2>about that. Radio has played a major part in that

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<v Speaker 2>social interactions a ton of other things. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I really, you know, feel like I put a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of heart and time into making certain that this was

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<v Speaker 2>curated right, something that felt like, you know, this next

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<v Speaker 2>chapter of my life, as I talked to you about

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<v Speaker 2>the past, the present, happening here in Las Vegas, the future,

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<v Speaker 2>and once we get there in February, is the next frontier?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that next chapter of my life and my legacy. This,

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<v Speaker 2>by the way, marks the first album that I put

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<v Speaker 2>out as an independent artist, very important part, right, because

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<v Speaker 2>what you should know is that, yeah, legacy obviously is

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<v Speaker 2>a part of what gave me the hit records to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to have a foundation to stand on. But

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<v Speaker 2>at that juncture of my life, I didn't just rely

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<v Speaker 2>on that. I decided to move away and also to

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<v Speaker 2>be independent. Mega myself, Larry Jackson, La Reed and I

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<v Speaker 2>came together and formed Gamma, and Mega is the support

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<v Speaker 2>of it. Since then, it's just been a labor of

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<v Speaker 2>like being reminded of why we did it. I can

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<v Speaker 2>go back to my thirteen year old days and remember

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<v Speaker 2>beginning between me and La now at forty five years old,

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<v Speaker 2>and him having a world of it experience, know all,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, just one of the greatest executives of our time,

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<v Speaker 2>Black executives of our time, you know, breaking so many

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<v Speaker 2>artists in so many different genres. Now we get to

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<v Speaker 2>bring all that equity together and do something that is

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<v Speaker 2>all about passion.

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<v Speaker 6>The greatest record executive regardless of color.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>You look at all the acts that he's discovered and

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<v Speaker 1>what and put on. He's been unbelievable this residency, and

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<v Speaker 1>you spoke about a little earlier that was that something

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<v Speaker 1>that had the pandemic not happen. Would the residency with Usher,

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<v Speaker 1>would that have happened?

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<v Speaker 3>It was going to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was. It was going to happen. We had

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<v Speaker 2>plans for it to happen. And right as we were

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<v Speaker 2>in the process of launching, you know, I think I

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<v Speaker 2>was in France at the time, and it was just

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<v Speaker 2>this crazy outbreak came back to America and then before

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we were quarantined, you know, and I've been

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<v Speaker 2>working on music, so I've been kind of ramping up

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<v Speaker 2>to something. Rather it was new music, a new tour,

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<v Speaker 2>and we all felt like Las Vegas would be an

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<v Speaker 2>incredible reintroduction of new music also to celebrating legacy.

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<v Speaker 3>But it turned into something far, far more than that.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, you know, right, we're here at the No Man

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<v Speaker 1>in Las Vegas, right down the hallway from where you're

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<v Speaker 1>performing your residency to night at Adobe Live Park.

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<v Speaker 6>MGM.

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<v Speaker 1>My daughter, who's flight with the Lady, wanted to be here,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm bringing her tonight for a birthday.

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<v Speaker 6>So when you caught a lot of flak got you,

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<v Speaker 6>the women come and you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, you come with your daddy or come with your

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<v Speaker 2>sugar daddy.

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<v Speaker 6>No no, no talking about your husband actual daughter.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very protective my de but all I ain't got

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<v Speaker 1>but two girls, and I'm very protective more of us,

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<v Speaker 1>and so don't be don't be battling around. So the criticism,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you're just having a good time. You say

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<v Speaker 1>you got your things on. I mean, are you surprised

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<v Speaker 1>that you've got the criticism and the blowback that you've received.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, man, I just know that this juncture

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<v Speaker 2>of my life is just about having You don't even care. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not that I don't cares that I want you

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<v Speaker 2>to notice I'm having and that is a part of

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<v Speaker 2>me having fun, being out in the audience amongst the

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<v Speaker 2>fans and also to the.

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<v Speaker 3>People, and then feeling that energy.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember the last time that I've been to

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<v Speaker 2>a show like that. You know, I know that we

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<v Speaker 2>all feel good when we go to Frankie Beverly and

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<v Speaker 2>we you know, we all dressing our white. We go

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<v Speaker 2>out there and we enjoy each other and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in the aisles and have a great time. But like

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<v Speaker 2>what an artist comes out and just is amongst the people.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, this arena gave me an opportunity to be

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<v Speaker 2>able to be closer to my fans because i'd been

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't put out an album in almost six years, right,

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<v Speaker 2>so now being able to reconnect in that way, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>obviously it spun into something that became.

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<v Speaker 3>It gave me a new title.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think Charlemagne a god named me like the

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<v Speaker 2>domestic Terrorist. I'm like, bro, I'm just this is this

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<v Speaker 2>is actually an usher's show.

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<v Speaker 6>Right what you said you can feel the energy.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't feel the energy for them husbands and the

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<v Speaker 1>bar friend and giving you to eat a lot like

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<v Speaker 1>you need to back up.

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<v Speaker 2>Nah, they're actually cool. The guy I said, are there?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying. The girls, they get a

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<v Speaker 2>little out of you. I'm just saying, but you know

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<v Speaker 2>it's don't leave your girl around me. I to come

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<v Speaker 2>with your girl. You know what I'm saying, Come with

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<v Speaker 2>your daughter. You know what I'm saying, bring your white

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<v Speaker 2>but yo. By the way, again, it's all in good fun.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the whole purpose and point is to bring

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<v Speaker 2>that energy to Las Vegas. When I look at it

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<v Speaker 2>and I see my people, I see you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>see us doing something that.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even felt I don't feel like it's been.

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<v Speaker 2>Done here, like the Black Dollar is strong and Vegas

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<v Speaker 2>man more than it's ever been, and the cast in

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<v Speaker 2>the in the crew and the feeling of what this

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<v Speaker 2>has built. It's been a celebration. So you know, nah,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't. I don't know if I was able to

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<v Speaker 2>even look at it as a negative. And then anything

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<v Speaker 2>that has happened in terms of the girls who came

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<v Speaker 2>up there, rather it was to recipe hensign or you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying, Keiki you know Palmer or you.

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<v Speaker 6>Know that woman had just had a baby and she would.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, she wanted to get out and have you

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<v Speaker 3>know what I'm saying. Should you not feel like you?

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean? Like you? You should get

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<v Speaker 3>out with your girls and enjoy yourself. You should, right, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>And now you have me to sit your usher.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you you aren't bringing them into a good time?

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<v Speaker 6>You taking that lift up. You caught your fout with them.

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<v Speaker 6>You know the ushers help you.

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<v Speaker 2>To the chail five and I'm ushing you to a

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<v Speaker 2>good time. You know what I'm saying, Come have a

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<v Speaker 2>good time with me. No, but working out, yeah, man.

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<v Speaker 1>I talked to Steve stout yesterday and he said that

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<v Speaker 1>when you getting ready for a show, that you would

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<v Speaker 1>train chasing the U Haul and they're playing Confessions because

0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:37.520
<v Speaker 1>you are an entertainer. You're not just sitting on the

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<v Speaker 1>stool singing. You're moving and you're every word and you dancing.

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<v Speaker 1>You're doing all these dance moves. Who how are you

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<v Speaker 1>able to do this.

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<v Speaker 6>Night in and night out? But you still got them

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<v Speaker 6>twenty year old knees.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know, man, It's like the conditioning. There's no

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<v Speaker 2>different you know, football, you know what I mean. You

0:17:54.000 --> 0:17:57.520
<v Speaker 2>gotta really have the you know, you gotta have a core, right,

0:17:57.520 --> 0:18:00.000
<v Speaker 2>you gotta make certain that you can sing and dance.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so part of my moving and singing and running

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<v Speaker 2>and doing some of these things that are probably not

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<v Speaker 2>a part of the you know, the build of artists.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, that type of artist development is something that

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<v Speaker 2>I learned. I learned it from a guy by the

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<v Speaker 2>name of aj Alexander, the guy who actually discovered me,

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<v Speaker 2>who was Bobby Brown's bodyguard. Right, so as a kid,

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<v Speaker 2>he had his kids in Atlanta, right, And this was

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<v Speaker 2>our training, like it was like boot camp. Singing wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>just like oh, we're gonna get out here and just

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<v Speaker 2>jam and sing the girls. Now, you gotta like he

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<v Speaker 2>was like putting us through straight boot camp.

0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:35.040
<v Speaker 1>So you had to learn why you had learned to

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<v Speaker 1>sing while you're tired because you're running, and like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>if boot camp.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, I just think that that generation of entertainment,

0:18:43.200 --> 0:18:45.040
<v Speaker 2>it was different, you know what I'm saying. And I

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<v Speaker 2>had been in a group before, and we as a group,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we worked in the same way, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying. We played basketball, you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 2>and we got our wind up. Or when we were working,

0:18:54.320 --> 0:18:56.680
<v Speaker 2>we would sing and dance and move around. He would

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<v Speaker 2>help us running and singing all of that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>That wasn't uncommon. That's not an uncommon thing. If you

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<v Speaker 2>consider yourself an artist, right as part of artist development,

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<v Speaker 2>if you want to be able to get out there, sing,

0:19:08.000 --> 0:19:11.200
<v Speaker 2>dance and I miss a beat, be on key, that's

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<v Speaker 2>the type of work that you got to do, right.

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<v Speaker 1>You You mentioned you're born in Cha, You're Chattanooga. You

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<v Speaker 1>moved to Atlanta at a very very young age. And

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<v Speaker 1>he said, your mom I read where you said your

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<v Speaker 1>mom like kind of quit what she was doing. To

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<v Speaker 1>devote all of her attention to you, and you said

0:19:27.119 --> 0:19:29.000
<v Speaker 1>your mom was like kind of hard on you and

0:19:29.080 --> 0:19:31.840
<v Speaker 1>making sure that's what you wanted. Where do you where

0:19:31.880 --> 0:19:35.400
<v Speaker 1>does your stance Because we see Richard beanis in Serena.

0:19:35.480 --> 0:19:37.600
<v Speaker 1>Richard Williams was very hard on them. Here we see

0:19:37.600 --> 0:19:39.680
<v Speaker 1>Tiger story, his dad was hard on him. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I see Dwight Howard trying to push your son and

0:19:42.119 --> 0:19:45.120
<v Speaker 1>he gets blowback. So where's Usher? If your kids? How

0:19:45.119 --> 0:19:46.320
<v Speaker 1>are you going to be with your son? You say,

0:19:46.320 --> 0:19:48.919
<v Speaker 1>you got a son that's playing basketball? Now, how's Usher

0:19:49.160 --> 0:19:51.960
<v Speaker 1>the parent? Given where he came from, knowing what he knows,

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<v Speaker 1>how's he going to be?

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<v Speaker 2>Man? I deal with the same you know, issues that

0:19:57.920 --> 0:20:01.320
<v Speaker 2>any parent deals with kids who are influ by you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the things that they see, the things that they get into.

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<v Speaker 3>But the one thing that I do is care for

0:20:05.680 --> 0:20:06.200
<v Speaker 3>my kids.

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<v Speaker 6>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>I view disciplinary, you know, you know kind of measures

0:20:11.040 --> 0:20:13.879
<v Speaker 2>as something that is preparing your kids, especially black kids

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<v Speaker 2>for you know, the reality of the world that they're

0:20:16.720 --> 0:20:19.480
<v Speaker 2>living in. You know, I hold you to a higher standard.

0:20:20.040 --> 0:20:22.520
<v Speaker 2>You know, I personally hold you to a higher standard

0:20:22.560 --> 0:20:25.080
<v Speaker 2>because I know what work it takes to be great

0:20:25.720 --> 0:20:28.600
<v Speaker 2>and for parents who do that. You know, look at

0:20:28.600 --> 0:20:31.520
<v Speaker 2>the evidence, look at the incredible you know, artists, the

0:20:31.520 --> 0:20:35.800
<v Speaker 2>incredible athletes that were creating in that moment. This generation

0:20:35.920 --> 0:20:39.280
<v Speaker 2>may not necessarily have the same respect. But God bless

0:20:39.320 --> 0:20:42.199
<v Speaker 2>the coaches that we have. God bless the mentors and

0:20:42.240 --> 0:20:45.840
<v Speaker 2>stuff that we have that motivate our kids, because it

0:20:45.880 --> 0:20:50.320
<v Speaker 2>almost puts this pressure on parents to not be parents. Now,

0:20:50.359 --> 0:20:53.960
<v Speaker 2>that's it's a hard dynamic, especially if you come from

0:20:53.960 --> 0:20:56.119
<v Speaker 2>an industry where you know what it takes to not

0:20:56.320 --> 0:20:58.280
<v Speaker 2>naturally kick into that mode and say, oh, if you

0:20:58.280 --> 0:21:00.840
<v Speaker 2>want to do something, you want to play basketball, you got.

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<v Speaker 3>To run at a certain rate. I'm gonna push you.

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<v Speaker 2>If you really want to do this, you gotta show

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<v Speaker 2>me you're gonna show up on time.

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<v Speaker 3>You ain't on time. Give me push ups right now?

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<v Speaker 2>What, Yeah, gimme push ups, Run these laps, run these

0:21:11.440 --> 0:21:12.879
<v Speaker 2>suicides right now? You serious?

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<v Speaker 3>Dad?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>For real? And I'm not playing.

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<v Speaker 2>And if I catch you, if I get if I

0:21:16.840 --> 0:21:18.399
<v Speaker 2>get there before you do, you're gonna give me one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred extra push ups.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just that's just the nature of the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the animal that is inside of who we are as

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<v Speaker 2>as I don't know man, as as entertainers.

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<v Speaker 3>As athletes.

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<v Speaker 6>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't. I don't look at any of that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of disciplinary kind of measure as bad. I do think

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<v Speaker 2>it's equally important to talk to your kids. Okay, if

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna push them that way, then you gotta love

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<v Speaker 2>on them just as much.

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<v Speaker 6>You gotta explain to them why you push it.

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<v Speaker 2>There, you go, that's right. They got to know that. Yo,

0:21:47.040 --> 0:21:49.000
<v Speaker 2>my dad's gonna push me to be great. My dad's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna talk to me as well and help me understand

0:21:51.359 --> 0:21:53.239
<v Speaker 2>why he's pushing me the way that he is.

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<v Speaker 6>But how is that?

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<v Speaker 1>Because you have to understand you're in a totally different

0:21:56.359 --> 0:21:57.600
<v Speaker 1>situation than what they are.

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<v Speaker 6>Your mom didn't have it like your key is. Dad

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<v Speaker 6>has it right.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're looking because you, like, man, I got to

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<v Speaker 1>get my I got to get my mom out of

0:22:05.720 --> 0:22:08.360
<v Speaker 1>this situation I want to have when your kids come home.

0:22:08.400 --> 0:22:10.600
<v Speaker 1>They got a six car garage, they got twenty five

0:22:10.600 --> 0:22:13.440
<v Speaker 1>thousand square feet, they got many, they got made, they

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<v Speaker 1>got shelf, they got they got all.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that is that is a harsh reality, which is

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<v Speaker 2>more of the reason why you got to be harder

0:22:22.320 --> 0:22:27.920
<v Speaker 2>on them, but mindful that their normal is different than

0:22:27.920 --> 0:22:30.879
<v Speaker 2>our normal, right, and the access that they have is

0:22:30.920 --> 0:22:35.200
<v Speaker 2>greater and grander, and the expectation is actually higher. That's

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<v Speaker 2>the one thing that I have empathy for my children,

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<v Speaker 2>especially the ones you know that you know, I name

0:22:41.200 --> 0:22:44.560
<v Speaker 2>my son Usher, So every time he's out, obviously there's

0:22:44.600 --> 0:22:48.719
<v Speaker 2>that pressure. You know, I've even battled at times, you know,

0:22:48.880 --> 0:22:50.879
<v Speaker 2>my kids sometimes they don't want me to come. They

0:22:50.880 --> 0:22:52.720
<v Speaker 2>don't want me to be at the you know, their

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<v Speaker 2>basketball game or they recital, or they want to be

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<v Speaker 2>very very low key because they don't want that energy.

0:22:57.880 --> 0:23:00.240
<v Speaker 2>They don't want our dad walks in the room and

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<v Speaker 2>took you know.

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<v Speaker 6>All their focus off of me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's hard because I tried my heartest to

0:23:06.400 --> 0:23:08.399
<v Speaker 2>have that empathy. But I want to be there. You

0:23:08.400 --> 0:23:10.720
<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying countless times being able to just

0:23:10.720 --> 0:23:12.320
<v Speaker 2>sit at the back of the room quiet. You know

0:23:12.359 --> 0:23:15.320
<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying is keep myself as small as possible

0:23:15.840 --> 0:23:17.920
<v Speaker 2>and be as quiet as I possibly can.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to be a parent, yeah, man, Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 3>it is if.

0:23:21.520 --> 0:23:24.320
<v Speaker 2>You're right, like that access and that reality that they're

0:23:24.359 --> 0:23:29.320
<v Speaker 2>looking at, it gives them some expectation, and unfortunately I

0:23:29.359 --> 0:23:30.200
<v Speaker 2>can't take it back.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying.

0:23:31.119 --> 0:23:33.920
<v Speaker 2>Like I walked so that we could ride, you know

0:23:33.960 --> 0:23:36.399
<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying, And now that you're riding, you know,

0:23:36.440 --> 0:23:39.080
<v Speaker 2>I want you to understand the importance of walking.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you always at the age of ten, eleven and

0:23:41.880 --> 0:23:45.919
<v Speaker 1>twelve you're on star search, did you always know you

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to be this?

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<v Speaker 2>Well?

0:23:49.720 --> 0:23:51.080
<v Speaker 3>Which part of this do you mean?

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<v Speaker 6>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Because the guy that's sitting across from me, that's internationally

0:23:55.160 --> 0:23:57.400
<v Speaker 1>known that goals and sells out every concert, the guy

0:23:57.440 --> 0:24:00.240
<v Speaker 1>that's almost at one hundred shows at a residency God,

0:24:00.280 --> 0:24:03.720
<v Speaker 1>that's doing the halftime show, one of the king of R.

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<v Speaker 3>And B this, Thank you very much. But let me

0:24:11.160 --> 0:24:14.080
<v Speaker 3>give you a little clarity, right, Okay, No, I don't know.

0:24:14.040 --> 0:24:17.679
<v Speaker 7>If I I don't know if I was prepared for

0:24:17.760 --> 0:24:20.199
<v Speaker 7>any of it, but I know that I was dedicated

0:24:20.359 --> 0:24:24.680
<v Speaker 7>enough to stick to it until something happened, and then

0:24:24.760 --> 0:24:26.399
<v Speaker 7>something that I didn't expect happen.

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<v Speaker 2>To become a businessman, to then understand entrepreneurship, to understand philanthropy,

0:24:33.920 --> 0:24:37.280
<v Speaker 2>to understand empathy, to begin to understand the other.

0:24:37.160 --> 0:24:40.080
<v Speaker 3>Side of it, I wouldn't prepare for that.

0:24:40.600 --> 0:24:43.080
<v Speaker 2>I knew that if I set my mind to anything,

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<v Speaker 2>the affirmation of me once saying it and actually making

0:24:47.320 --> 0:24:51.000
<v Speaker 2>it happen it willing it to happen was something that

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<v Speaker 2>I was committed to as a kid. Yo, I walked

0:24:54.840 --> 0:24:56.680
<v Speaker 2>around and my mother used to tell me all the time,

0:24:56.720 --> 0:24:58.120
<v Speaker 2>you need to stop telling people that you're going.

0:24:58.080 --> 0:24:58.840
<v Speaker 3>To be a big artist.

0:24:58.920 --> 0:25:01.639
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, why, that's what I believe, is what I

0:25:01.680 --> 0:25:04.240
<v Speaker 2>think about myself. If I don't believe it, nobody else would.

0:25:04.440 --> 0:25:06.359
<v Speaker 2>But you don't have to say it. It ain't happen yet.

0:25:06.440 --> 0:25:08.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, but I wanted to, so let me just

0:25:09.560 --> 0:25:12.359
<v Speaker 2>I must keep saying it until it actually, you know,

0:25:12.480 --> 0:25:15.280
<v Speaker 2>becomes the reality. And I'm gonna not only just say

0:25:15.280 --> 0:25:17.640
<v Speaker 2>it and expect somebody to give it to me. I'm

0:25:17.640 --> 0:25:19.360
<v Speaker 2>gonna take the long way around. I want to work

0:25:19.400 --> 0:25:20.760
<v Speaker 2>for it. I want to be able to say I

0:25:20.920 --> 0:25:22.200
<v Speaker 2>earned it, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember the first time that I saw you, and

0:25:25.320 --> 0:25:27.720
<v Speaker 1>I didn't quite know who you were. I saw you

0:25:27.760 --> 0:25:30.360
<v Speaker 1>in Nike Town and Phillips Plaza. Man, I just see

0:25:30.400 --> 0:25:32.280
<v Speaker 1>you in Guccia all the time, and you always sing

0:25:32.320 --> 0:25:34.120
<v Speaker 1>I was like, man, why do this dude sing it?

0:25:34.280 --> 0:25:38.600
<v Speaker 6>Man? I like he's like, he's like and you was

0:25:38.680 --> 0:25:40.720
<v Speaker 6>just singing and singing and singing. And I was told

0:25:40.760 --> 0:25:42.520
<v Speaker 6>my sister, I said, man, I saw this, this.

0:25:42.280 --> 0:25:44.080
<v Speaker 1>This a I mean, you couldn't been no more than

0:25:44.119 --> 0:25:45.800
<v Speaker 1>like sixteen or seventeen.

0:25:46.119 --> 0:25:47.680
<v Speaker 6>I said, I saw this. I saw this kid in

0:25:48.560 --> 0:25:50.880
<v Speaker 6>niked Town and he was singing. I think I think

0:25:50.880 --> 0:25:51.920
<v Speaker 6>he might be something.

0:25:52.160 --> 0:25:56.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, I don't know if I was auditioning

0:25:56.320 --> 0:25:59.919
<v Speaker 2>or what I said. I was preparing for my moment,

0:26:00.119 --> 0:26:01.440
<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying. And I think that that's

0:26:02.200 --> 0:26:03.959
<v Speaker 2>that's the plight, you know what I'm saying. To anything

0:26:04.000 --> 0:26:05.639
<v Speaker 2>that you want to be great at, you have to

0:26:05.680 --> 0:26:08.440
<v Speaker 2>make it a you have to make it a process.

0:26:08.480 --> 0:26:11.760
<v Speaker 2>Like it's a part of your every thought. Like if

0:26:11.800 --> 0:26:14.040
<v Speaker 2>you want to play basketball, you always bounce on the ball.

0:26:14.200 --> 0:26:17.240
<v Speaker 2>You want to play football, you always readjusting, you always managing,

0:26:17.280 --> 0:26:19.159
<v Speaker 2>you always ready and alert.

0:26:19.359 --> 0:26:20.919
<v Speaker 3>You know, if you want to play sports, it's like

0:26:21.000 --> 0:26:24.760
<v Speaker 3>you have to stay activated and stay active. As an artist,

0:26:24.760 --> 0:26:27.560
<v Speaker 3>it's the same. And you know, I'm also too.

0:26:27.440 --> 0:26:29.760
<v Speaker 2>Haunted by the idea that I had this talent, so

0:26:29.800 --> 0:26:31.320
<v Speaker 2>it's naturally just coming out.

0:26:31.440 --> 0:26:33.720
<v Speaker 3>It's like, you can't help but just be who you are.

0:26:33.960 --> 0:26:37.920
<v Speaker 1>You had this talent obviously in high school. Normally when

0:26:37.960 --> 0:26:40.639
<v Speaker 1>you have a talent, everybody's not as talent as as

0:26:40.680 --> 0:26:41.320
<v Speaker 1>everyone else.

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<v Speaker 6>So were they're hating going on it with you in

0:26:44.320 --> 0:26:44.840
<v Speaker 6>high school.

0:26:45.119 --> 0:26:47.760
<v Speaker 1>The people hate that you were so gifted because you're

0:26:47.760 --> 0:26:48.480
<v Speaker 1>in a talent show.

0:26:48.480 --> 0:26:51.480
<v Speaker 6>You win it. You know that you're not losing a

0:26:51.520 --> 0:26:52.080
<v Speaker 6>talent show.

0:26:52.320 --> 0:26:57.760
<v Speaker 1>No, So they're like it's like, okay, okay, you won

0:26:57.840 --> 0:26:59.200
<v Speaker 1>the last five talent shows.

0:26:59.440 --> 0:27:00.760
<v Speaker 6>You're not in this one.

0:27:01.040 --> 0:27:01.119
<v Speaker 3>No.

0:27:01.200 --> 0:27:04.439
<v Speaker 2>But that's what makes you great, right, the fact that

0:27:04.480 --> 0:27:06.840
<v Speaker 2>you know that there's opposition. You know, if you're playing

0:27:06.840 --> 0:27:08.879
<v Speaker 2>on the football team, right, you're gonna go out there,

0:27:08.880 --> 0:27:09.800
<v Speaker 2>you see that, you.

0:27:09.640 --> 0:27:11.200
<v Speaker 3>Go up against some dogs. You know what I'm saying.

0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:14.000
<v Speaker 2>You gotta go out there with a different attitude. You

0:27:14.080 --> 0:27:16.879
<v Speaker 2>gotta like believe it, you gotta like be it.

0:27:17.600 --> 0:27:17.800
<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:27:17.880 --> 0:27:19.719
<v Speaker 2>And by the way, I had a hard high trip, bro.

0:27:19.800 --> 0:27:22.359
<v Speaker 2>My name was Usher, Like yeah, like I don't I

0:27:22.359 --> 0:27:26.240
<v Speaker 2>don't have like Marcus or like Eddie or something like that.

0:27:26.400 --> 0:27:29.560
<v Speaker 2>Like I was already like an outlier, you know what

0:27:29.640 --> 0:27:31.879
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying, Like, wait a minute, you're walking around with

0:27:31.920 --> 0:27:33.560
<v Speaker 2>this name, and they weren't nice to me.

0:27:33.680 --> 0:27:37.000
<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying, Rshell, what's Arsha? You know

0:27:37.080 --> 0:27:38.800
<v Speaker 3>you want arshboard? You know what I'm saying.

0:27:38.880 --> 0:27:39.480
<v Speaker 2>Hershey Bard.

0:27:39.480 --> 0:27:41.720
<v Speaker 3>I was like, man, come on, man, all right, that's cool.

0:27:42.240 --> 0:27:46.080
<v Speaker 6>So so what was dating like for Usher? In high school?

0:27:47.080 --> 0:27:47.439
<v Speaker 2>Dating?

0:27:49.640 --> 0:27:51.760
<v Speaker 3>It was a bit difficult, you know what I'm saying,

0:27:51.880 --> 0:27:52.480
<v Speaker 3>because I.

0:27:52.560 --> 0:27:54.800
<v Speaker 6>Just you can say, you can swound them.

0:27:55.320 --> 0:27:57.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know, but you know, I was just trying

0:27:57.960 --> 0:28:00.359
<v Speaker 2>my hardest to stay focused on my actual go and

0:28:01.080 --> 0:28:03.760
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, man, I was you know, I was

0:28:03.840 --> 0:28:06.240
<v Speaker 2>just trying to figure out how to get to the

0:28:06.280 --> 0:28:09.720
<v Speaker 2>real goal, you know, to have a girlfriend. That was cool,

0:28:09.840 --> 0:28:11.719
<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying, Like I would definitely impress

0:28:11.760 --> 0:28:12.440
<v Speaker 2>the girls and.

0:28:12.760 --> 0:28:14.840
<v Speaker 6>See I do I do, go get it out you

0:28:15.000 --> 0:28:16.320
<v Speaker 6>I do? I get it out of chorus.

0:28:16.440 --> 0:28:18.359
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying. But you know, I just

0:28:18.760 --> 0:28:20.360
<v Speaker 2>you know, it was it wasn't about that, man.

0:28:20.400 --> 0:28:21.120
<v Speaker 3>I was focused.

0:28:21.160 --> 0:28:21.280
<v Speaker 6>Bro.

0:28:21.400 --> 0:28:23.680
<v Speaker 2>I was like, I need to I need to stay

0:28:23.720 --> 0:28:26.080
<v Speaker 2>focused and I have a goal, you know what I'm saying.

0:28:26.080 --> 0:28:27.960
<v Speaker 2>When I figured out this is really what I want

0:28:28.000 --> 0:28:30.119
<v Speaker 2>to do, I think I was willing to make the

0:28:30.160 --> 0:28:33.359
<v Speaker 2>sacrifices that would needed. And while I wanted to enjoy,

0:28:33.600 --> 0:28:36.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, having relationships. It was like, if I find

0:28:36.560 --> 0:28:38.000
<v Speaker 2>a girl that I think is really cool and I

0:28:38.000 --> 0:28:39.840
<v Speaker 2>can learn something from her, she can learn something from me,

0:28:40.400 --> 0:28:41.520
<v Speaker 2>then we can help each other.

0:28:42.040 --> 0:28:44.400
<v Speaker 3>But for the most part, I ain't. Yeah, man, I ain't.

0:28:44.440 --> 0:28:50.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah we can help each other out, Yeah, yeah, I don't.

0:28:50.320 --> 0:28:53.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't think it was a phase while I was

0:28:53.480 --> 0:28:57.920
<v Speaker 2>girl crazy, you know what I'm saying. But yeah, man,

0:28:57.960 --> 0:29:00.240
<v Speaker 2>I just I was trying to figure out how to

0:29:00.280 --> 0:29:02.520
<v Speaker 2>get as many numbers as I possibly could because I

0:29:02.520 --> 0:29:04.240
<v Speaker 2>wanted to be a player, you know what I'm saying.

0:29:04.320 --> 0:29:07.000
<v Speaker 2>From the Himalaya, You know what I'm saying. But you

0:29:07.040 --> 0:29:10.680
<v Speaker 2>know I was, I was. I wasn't really focused on

0:29:11.560 --> 0:29:12.760
<v Speaker 2>you know that too much?

0:29:13.280 --> 0:29:16.680
<v Speaker 1>How did you deal with your voice at ten is

0:29:16.760 --> 0:29:18.760
<v Speaker 1>not the same as the voice at fourteen, and the

0:29:18.880 --> 0:29:21.320
<v Speaker 1>voice at fourteen is not the same as the voice

0:29:21.480 --> 0:29:23.680
<v Speaker 1>your mature voice is gonna be. So how did you

0:29:23.720 --> 0:29:26.520
<v Speaker 1>handle the voice change going through pubid.

0:29:26.240 --> 0:29:27.360
<v Speaker 3>It's crazy, you know.

0:29:27.480 --> 0:29:29.880
<v Speaker 2>I just had to figure out how to focus on

0:29:29.920 --> 0:29:33.719
<v Speaker 2>something else until it changed back and just keep working.

0:29:34.120 --> 0:29:35.960
<v Speaker 2>I changed my eating habits, you know what, I'm saying,

0:29:35.960 --> 0:29:38.040
<v Speaker 2>in addition to losing my voice, I had pizza face.

0:29:38.080 --> 0:29:38.800
<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying.

0:29:39.000 --> 0:29:41.680
<v Speaker 2>Y'all know my teenagers, you yeah, you go through a

0:29:41.680 --> 0:29:44.400
<v Speaker 2>phase where it's just like NESTLEI craped, you know what

0:29:44.440 --> 0:29:44.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying.

0:29:45.640 --> 0:29:47.960
<v Speaker 3>And I was like, man, I gotta figure this out,

0:29:48.360 --> 0:29:48.600
<v Speaker 3>you know.

0:29:49.360 --> 0:29:50.960
<v Speaker 2>But I didn't let it hit it that determin me

0:29:50.960 --> 0:29:53.120
<v Speaker 2>from like oh yo' I still got to stay focused

0:29:53.160 --> 0:29:54.400
<v Speaker 2>on what I want to do.

0:29:55.560 --> 0:29:58.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I lost my voice completely. It was hard. So

0:29:58.400 --> 0:29:59.120
<v Speaker 3>I didn't lose my.

0:29:59.200 --> 0:30:02.120
<v Speaker 2>Voice and didn't have anything right. I lost my voice

0:30:02.120 --> 0:30:04.160
<v Speaker 2>and I actually had a record that was on the radio.

0:30:04.720 --> 0:30:06.840
<v Speaker 2>I had a record that I put out just call

0:30:06.920 --> 0:30:09.440
<v Speaker 2>Me a Mac, and I couldn't sing it here I

0:30:09.480 --> 0:30:10.680
<v Speaker 2>am at you know.

0:30:10.760 --> 0:30:14.240
<v Speaker 3>I think it was Jack the Rapper in Atlanta. Can

0:30:14.320 --> 0:30:14.840
<v Speaker 3>I be down here?

0:30:14.880 --> 0:30:17.480
<v Speaker 2>Remember? Which was one of those two. And I sang

0:30:17.560 --> 0:30:19.200
<v Speaker 2>my song and I got through it. That was the

0:30:19.240 --> 0:30:21.280
<v Speaker 2>first and the last time that I actually sang and

0:30:21.320 --> 0:30:25.320
<v Speaker 2>I impressed an audience of people, some of whom still

0:30:25.360 --> 0:30:26.880
<v Speaker 2>come up to this day, Like ya, I remember you

0:30:27.280 --> 0:30:29.600
<v Speaker 2>in this yellow something. You was like a little kid

0:30:29.680 --> 0:30:32.680
<v Speaker 2>man and you really just had this this real big

0:30:32.800 --> 0:30:37.560
<v Speaker 2>energy and then after that I lost it and trying

0:30:37.560 --> 0:30:39.920
<v Speaker 2>my hardest to not lose my mind in that and

0:30:39.960 --> 0:30:43.040
<v Speaker 2>become like depressed, like fall into a deep depression.

0:30:43.560 --> 0:30:44.880
<v Speaker 3>It took a great deal of support.

0:30:44.920 --> 0:30:47.680
<v Speaker 2>It took my mama, It took my grandmother to my nanny,

0:30:47.720 --> 0:30:50.760
<v Speaker 2>It took my family members who you know, just continue

0:30:51.040 --> 0:30:54.600
<v Speaker 2>to you know, encourage me, and I managed to make

0:30:54.600 --> 0:30:57.120
<v Speaker 2>it through it. The people who managed to stick around,

0:30:57.560 --> 0:30:58.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, the people that I was working with at

0:30:59.000 --> 0:31:03.200
<v Speaker 2>the time, Lady by the name of Shirley Riley, you know,

0:31:03.440 --> 0:31:08.360
<v Speaker 2>an amazing coach as well, you know, but you know,

0:31:08.480 --> 0:31:11.040
<v Speaker 2>working with Kawan Prayer, who was the person who I

0:31:11.040 --> 0:31:14.120
<v Speaker 2>worked with at the time, Shanty Doss. You know, these

0:31:14.160 --> 0:31:17.280
<v Speaker 2>people who you know, were kind of appointed for me

0:31:17.320 --> 0:31:19.479
<v Speaker 2>to work with. They didn't give up on me. They

0:31:20.000 --> 0:31:22.640
<v Speaker 2>continued to see something bright in me, La Reid. They

0:31:22.680 --> 0:31:26.600
<v Speaker 2>continued to invest in me working with you know, vocal

0:31:26.640 --> 0:31:29.680
<v Speaker 2>coaches and continue to help me find my way. Sent

0:31:29.760 --> 0:31:32.320
<v Speaker 2>me to New York City to work with Puffy. It

0:31:32.400 --> 0:31:34.880
<v Speaker 2>was just like, Okay, we're not giving up. We still

0:31:34.880 --> 0:31:35.440
<v Speaker 2>believe in it.

0:31:36.520 --> 0:31:39.680
<v Speaker 1>How difficult is it as a child to find topics

0:31:39.680 --> 0:31:43.320
<v Speaker 1>to sing about because you like thirteen fourteen. You can't

0:31:43.320 --> 0:31:47.000
<v Speaker 1>be singing about this mature stuff. Man, You're not a

0:31:47.040 --> 0:31:49.240
<v Speaker 1>gangster rapper. You ain't shooting up the club and talking

0:31:49.240 --> 0:31:51.880
<v Speaker 1>about this, this being this guarden tool and all that.

0:31:52.120 --> 0:31:53.920
<v Speaker 3>So was it difficult this garden tool?

0:31:57.560 --> 0:32:01.440
<v Speaker 6>Was it difficult for you to fuy material? Come? Was

0:32:01.520 --> 0:32:04.840
<v Speaker 6>it difficult for you to file material to sing sing about? Yeah?

0:32:05.120 --> 0:32:08.760
<v Speaker 3>It was like uh, pips and guard tools.

0:32:12.360 --> 0:32:14.520
<v Speaker 2>Man, I didn't.

0:32:14.240 --> 0:32:15.640
<v Speaker 3>Have to worry about that as much.

0:32:15.760 --> 0:32:16.440
<v Speaker 2>I think they.

0:32:16.360 --> 0:32:18.040
<v Speaker 3>Spent time with me. That was funny.

0:32:18.520 --> 0:32:21.920
<v Speaker 2>Eddie Bishop and uh Tim Thomas, the first two producers

0:32:21.920 --> 0:32:24.400
<v Speaker 2>that I work where he just posted something and uh,

0:32:24.480 --> 0:32:27.560
<v Speaker 2>I look back and it's like, man, I just so

0:32:27.680 --> 0:32:29.760
<v Speaker 2>great that you on the road to riches you stop

0:32:29.800 --> 0:32:32.240
<v Speaker 2>and take pictures because it actually just takes you back

0:32:32.280 --> 0:32:35.239
<v Speaker 2>to that moment I almost forgot about, you know, just

0:32:35.400 --> 0:32:37.000
<v Speaker 2>the hope in my eyes and the fact that I

0:32:37.040 --> 0:32:39.640
<v Speaker 2>was just a little kid, right But here they are

0:32:39.680 --> 0:32:41.680
<v Speaker 2>trying to make songs for me about being a mac.

0:32:42.240 --> 0:32:43.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't even know what a mac is. You know

0:32:44.040 --> 0:32:47.360
<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying, mac truck, a big mac like nah.

0:32:47.400 --> 0:32:50.840
<v Speaker 2>But you know again, you know, I just I think

0:32:51.240 --> 0:32:53.840
<v Speaker 2>I left it to them to help, you know, help

0:32:53.920 --> 0:32:56.400
<v Speaker 2>me figure out how to talk, because I could have

0:32:56.520 --> 0:33:01.040
<v Speaker 2>easily right became you know, one of the sensations that

0:33:01.200 --> 0:33:04.280
<v Speaker 2>would have been locked into being a kid. Only had

0:33:04.320 --> 0:33:07.320
<v Speaker 2>made kid music specifically for kids. But I think that

0:33:07.360 --> 0:33:09.680
<v Speaker 2>they were trying to make music that adults would listen

0:33:09.680 --> 0:33:11.640
<v Speaker 2>to as well. That was a real smart thing for

0:33:11.680 --> 0:33:15.600
<v Speaker 2>them to do, and really it was. It was great

0:33:15.640 --> 0:33:18.040
<v Speaker 2>to think ahead because it made it easier for me

0:33:18.120 --> 0:33:21.800
<v Speaker 2>to transition when I worked with you know, Organized Noise,

0:33:21.800 --> 0:33:23.640
<v Speaker 2>when I work with Puff, when I worked.

0:33:23.400 --> 0:33:26.000
<v Speaker 3>With you know, those those guys.

0:33:26.080 --> 0:33:29.440
<v Speaker 2>They were trying to tell the coolest young guy's story,

0:33:29.480 --> 0:33:33.280
<v Speaker 2>the guy who you know was kind of having emotions

0:33:33.280 --> 0:33:35.040
<v Speaker 2>but still trying to be a young fly player.

0:33:35.080 --> 0:33:35.600
<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying.

0:33:36.040 --> 0:33:38.360
<v Speaker 2>You know, like, yo, I got a little movement here,

0:33:38.400 --> 0:33:39.680
<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying. I talked to women a

0:33:39.680 --> 0:33:41.840
<v Speaker 2>certain way. They were giving me like yo, you gotta

0:33:41.880 --> 0:33:43.560
<v Speaker 2>talk to a girl like this, you know what I mean?

0:33:43.640 --> 0:33:44.760
<v Speaker 3>And you know we.

0:33:44.720 --> 0:33:47.400
<v Speaker 2>Would do intros like you talk overt R and B

0:33:47.480 --> 0:33:49.240
<v Speaker 2>records just how you got to talk to him bruh,

0:33:49.280 --> 0:33:53.360
<v Speaker 2>you know. But great that I was able to have

0:33:53.720 --> 0:33:56.160
<v Speaker 2>more mature conversation because I didn't get caught in the

0:33:56.240 --> 0:33:59.240
<v Speaker 2>kid thing. I wasn't like a kid teen type sensation.

0:34:00.120 --> 0:34:00.320
<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:34:00.400 --> 0:34:02.120
<v Speaker 2>I was out there trying to figure out to take

0:34:02.120 --> 0:34:03.040
<v Speaker 2>my shirt off and show my.

0:34:03.080 --> 0:34:04.200
<v Speaker 6>Six pack package.

0:34:04.240 --> 0:34:04.920
<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying.

0:34:05.240 --> 0:34:08.279
<v Speaker 1>You mentioned La Reid sent you to New York and

0:34:08.320 --> 0:34:09.320
<v Speaker 1>you live with he did it.

0:34:09.400 --> 0:34:10.560
<v Speaker 6>They called it flavor Camp.

0:34:10.560 --> 0:34:13.399
<v Speaker 1>Flavor Camp, So what was that experience like and how

0:34:13.440 --> 0:34:14.920
<v Speaker 1>did that help Ush's career?

0:34:15.360 --> 0:34:15.680
<v Speaker 3>I think?

0:34:15.800 --> 0:34:18.480
<v Speaker 2>But I think I don't think I would be the

0:34:18.600 --> 0:34:21.279
<v Speaker 2>artist that I am today without.

0:34:20.960 --> 0:34:23.360
<v Speaker 3>The experiences that I had in New York City.

0:34:23.760 --> 0:34:26.319
<v Speaker 2>One, just being in a new place where I would

0:34:26.320 --> 0:34:29.000
<v Speaker 2>have to adjust, right, I didn't have the comfort of home.

0:34:29.520 --> 0:34:31.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm in New York City and they was you know,

0:34:32.400 --> 0:34:35.080
<v Speaker 2>done and sonning me to death, bro. And I was like,

0:34:36.360 --> 0:34:37.960
<v Speaker 2>shout it, I don't know what you talking about. You

0:34:38.000 --> 0:34:40.719
<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying, We Finnah, go over hell, you

0:34:40.719 --> 0:34:42.920
<v Speaker 2>know what I'm saying. And they was like laughing at

0:34:42.960 --> 0:34:45.160
<v Speaker 2>me because I was Southern and they were like New York.

0:34:45.200 --> 0:34:47.560
<v Speaker 2>But they like took me and they like they took

0:34:47.600 --> 0:34:49.520
<v Speaker 2>me under their wing, you know what I'm saying, And

0:34:49.600 --> 0:34:51.719
<v Speaker 2>looked at me like the little bro, you know, I

0:34:51.719 --> 0:34:54.080
<v Speaker 2>think back to, you know, the earlier times of being

0:34:54.120 --> 0:34:56.799
<v Speaker 2>there when Bad Boy was formed. You know, I learned

0:34:56.840 --> 0:34:59.560
<v Speaker 2>something about business, I learned something about artist development in

0:34:59.600 --> 0:35:02.640
<v Speaker 2>a different well, I learned something about culture. So having

0:35:03.400 --> 0:35:06.920
<v Speaker 2>the ability to be around all these different cultures of people,

0:35:07.040 --> 0:35:10.160
<v Speaker 2>it just helped me understand the world that I lived in.

0:35:10.200 --> 0:35:10.520
<v Speaker 3>I didn't.

0:35:10.560 --> 0:35:13.960
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't isolated and felt like I needed to be protected.

0:35:14.000 --> 0:35:16.000
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't. I was like, Yo, We're gonna show you

0:35:16.000 --> 0:35:17.879
<v Speaker 2>the real ropes to show you what the world really

0:35:17.880 --> 0:35:20.959
<v Speaker 2>looks like and give you a front seat. I'm looking

0:35:21.000 --> 0:35:22.839
<v Speaker 2>at Biggie, you know what I'm saying. I'm looking at

0:35:22.880 --> 0:35:25.840
<v Speaker 2>Craig Mac. I'm looking at Onyx. Were running in the streets,

0:35:25.960 --> 0:35:29.799
<v Speaker 2>we like literally out here seeing how we in barbershop?

0:35:29.840 --> 0:35:31.400
<v Speaker 2>They shooting nice? You know what I'm saying.

0:35:31.960 --> 0:35:34.000
<v Speaker 3>You know, bet, I don't full four fol You know

0:35:34.040 --> 0:35:35.879
<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying. Four five? You know what I'm like, Yo,

0:35:35.920 --> 0:35:37.800
<v Speaker 3>what is this? You know what I'm saying.

0:35:38.120 --> 0:35:41.359
<v Speaker 2>But so great to have had those experiences, because one

0:35:41.400 --> 0:35:42.719
<v Speaker 2>I didn't have a big brother and.

0:35:42.640 --> 0:35:45.120
<v Speaker 3>My dad wasn't there in my life as a kid.

0:35:45.280 --> 0:35:48.880
<v Speaker 2>So all these experiences just readied me for life so

0:35:49.000 --> 0:35:50.320
<v Speaker 2>greater than just being an artist.

0:35:50.320 --> 0:35:52.279
<v Speaker 3>That man helped me understand life.

0:35:52.360 --> 0:35:54.840
<v Speaker 2>He helped me understand what it was to be an artist,

0:35:55.120 --> 0:35:58.280
<v Speaker 2>helped me understand what it was to be passionate about something.

0:35:58.600 --> 0:36:00.000
<v Speaker 3>He helped me understand.

0:36:00.760 --> 0:36:04.680
<v Speaker 2>He helped me understand business at a different level because

0:36:04.680 --> 0:36:08.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm seeing him go from his independence to then becoming

0:36:08.960 --> 0:36:10.400
<v Speaker 2>puff Daddy, you know what I'm saying.

0:36:10.440 --> 0:36:13.040
<v Speaker 3>And I got a front row seat looking at that.

0:36:13.680 --> 0:36:14.640
<v Speaker 2>Thank God that I.

0:36:14.560 --> 0:36:16.040
<v Speaker 3>Had that experience, you know what I'm saying.

0:36:16.160 --> 0:36:19.760
<v Speaker 2>Then you and by the way, at New York's Hottest moment.

0:36:20.160 --> 0:36:22.920
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying, This is Terror Squad and

0:36:23.080 --> 0:36:26.040
<v Speaker 2>Fat Joe. I'm like, how do I know all this stuff?

0:36:26.080 --> 0:36:28.200
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying, Like, I'm literally I can

0:36:28.239 --> 0:36:30.239
<v Speaker 2>remember being on stage. I can't curse on this, but

0:36:30.280 --> 0:36:33.680
<v Speaker 2>I was like, one of the craziest experiences ever. I

0:36:33.680 --> 0:36:36.960
<v Speaker 2>happen to be on stage performing with Biggie And this

0:36:37.000 --> 0:36:40.640
<v Speaker 2>is back when he had a song called Partying Bull Dung.

0:36:42.160 --> 0:36:45.520
<v Speaker 3>Cal Dong. You know what I'm saying. I was like, Yo,

0:36:46.640 --> 0:36:48.279
<v Speaker 3>this is crazy.

0:36:48.800 --> 0:36:51.000
<v Speaker 2>But I was able to take all of that and

0:36:51.040 --> 0:36:54.840
<v Speaker 2>then begin to understand, Oh okay, I get it. I

0:36:54.840 --> 0:36:57.480
<v Speaker 2>see where the world is, but now I want to do.

0:36:57.440 --> 0:36:58.080
<v Speaker 6>This my way.

0:36:58.520 --> 0:37:03.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Atlanta, Jermaine Dupree, you link up with JDL And.

0:37:06.280 --> 0:37:08.000
<v Speaker 6>What makes JD so good at a job?

0:37:10.040 --> 0:37:10.279
<v Speaker 2>You know?

0:37:11.360 --> 0:37:11.920
<v Speaker 3>Creative?

0:37:12.560 --> 0:37:16.160
<v Speaker 2>He's extremely creative and he's mindful of the artist that

0:37:16.200 --> 0:37:19.759
<v Speaker 2>he's working. When he spends the time that is necessary

0:37:19.800 --> 0:37:25.120
<v Speaker 2>to understand how to tell the artist story, he spends

0:37:25.120 --> 0:37:27.600
<v Speaker 2>the time making certain that he understands the cadus as

0:37:27.600 --> 0:37:30.839
<v Speaker 2>he writes. He's one of the world's greatest writers. I mean,

0:37:31.719 --> 0:37:34.480
<v Speaker 2>you don't get no better, bruh, like somebody who has

0:37:34.560 --> 0:37:38.120
<v Speaker 2>like multiple skills as a writer, as an artist, as

0:37:38.120 --> 0:37:44.719
<v Speaker 2>a creative. Rather it's fashion, rather, it's lifestyle, cool, incredibly

0:37:44.960 --> 0:37:47.960
<v Speaker 2>emotional when it comes to knowing how to pin it

0:37:48.040 --> 0:37:51.760
<v Speaker 2>because he listens. He listens to every word. He manages

0:37:51.840 --> 0:37:53.759
<v Speaker 2>to get out of the way too. That's another thing.

0:37:54.480 --> 0:37:58.560
<v Speaker 2>It's it's about him because it's about his interpretation and

0:37:58.600 --> 0:38:01.239
<v Speaker 2>the interpreter always wins. But his ability to not make

0:38:01.280 --> 0:38:04.440
<v Speaker 2>it about just him, he makes it about his artists.

0:38:04.760 --> 0:38:08.120
<v Speaker 2>He's able to then say, all right, I'm gonna breathe

0:38:08.160 --> 0:38:10.799
<v Speaker 2>life into this artist who's trying to find that way. Now,

0:38:10.880 --> 0:38:12.839
<v Speaker 2>what you do with it rather you dance, you rap,

0:38:12.880 --> 0:38:14.720
<v Speaker 2>or you go into movies and you do other things.

0:38:15.040 --> 0:38:15.959
<v Speaker 3>That's how you keep going.

0:38:16.239 --> 0:38:19.440
<v Speaker 2>But he really does understand the art of artistry, the

0:38:19.640 --> 0:38:22.400
<v Speaker 2>art of being able to see the greatest things and

0:38:22.480 --> 0:38:24.160
<v Speaker 2>pull the best things out.

0:38:24.440 --> 0:38:27.400
<v Speaker 1>Confessions, Yeah, everybody thought Confessionals was about you, like you

0:38:27.480 --> 0:38:29.640
<v Speaker 1>was just confassion. You went to a confessional, but it

0:38:29.719 --> 0:38:33.720
<v Speaker 1>was about yeah, well no, it's about you.

0:38:33.800 --> 0:38:35.719
<v Speaker 2>Nah, it was about a It was a collect by

0:38:35.760 --> 0:38:37.719
<v Speaker 2>the way, we made an album and we as men

0:38:37.840 --> 0:38:40.799
<v Speaker 2>sat around like this. We were having real conversations, real talk.

0:38:40.800 --> 0:38:42.719
<v Speaker 2>As a matter of fact, Mark.

0:38:42.520 --> 0:38:48.680
<v Speaker 3>Pitts, you know, you know myself, JD. There's a couple

0:38:48.680 --> 0:38:49.160
<v Speaker 3>of casts.

0:38:49.000 --> 0:38:52.200
<v Speaker 2>In the room that was going through this situation. I

0:38:52.200 --> 0:38:53.840
<v Speaker 2>ain't trying to put nobody on blast, but I'm just

0:38:53.880 --> 0:38:56.480
<v Speaker 2>saying we all were having a conversation about this thing

0:38:56.560 --> 0:38:58.840
<v Speaker 2>that was happening, and it ain't the first time that

0:38:58.840 --> 0:39:01.360
<v Speaker 2>it happened. But here's an opportunity for me to be

0:39:01.400 --> 0:39:03.920
<v Speaker 2>able to tell that story in a way where everybody

0:39:03.920 --> 0:39:06.799
<v Speaker 2>could relate to it. It wasn't just me I'm at JD.

0:39:07.320 --> 0:39:09.440
<v Speaker 2>It was it was everybody.

0:39:09.680 --> 0:39:11.840
<v Speaker 6>Everybody at that table was going through something.

0:39:11.680 --> 0:39:14.279
<v Speaker 2>Yo, bid I'll tell you no lies. Everybody was going

0:39:14.320 --> 0:39:17.640
<v Speaker 2>through some portion of what we were talking about in that studio.

0:39:18.520 --> 0:39:23.000
<v Speaker 1>It's Confession is the album that Usher is a bona

0:39:23.000 --> 0:39:25.400
<v Speaker 1>fide superstar. He's here to state he ain't no flash

0:39:25.480 --> 0:39:28.200
<v Speaker 1>in the pan. You're not here today going tomorrow. Usher

0:39:28.400 --> 0:39:32.439
<v Speaker 1>Raymond is here and you will forever remember this man's name.

0:39:33.040 --> 0:39:38.560
<v Speaker 3>You gotta tell me, bro, Yeah you think so. I

0:39:38.560 --> 0:39:40.440
<v Speaker 3>think that's your greatest that's the greatest.

0:39:40.760 --> 0:39:44.640
<v Speaker 2>Uh body of work?

0:39:44.760 --> 0:39:45.680
<v Speaker 3>Eighty seven O one?

0:39:46.560 --> 0:39:49.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, okay, se see where you put it

0:39:49.680 --> 0:39:51.239
<v Speaker 1>like that? Eighty seven O one.

0:39:51.360 --> 0:39:53.719
<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm saying. So it's like, it's great that

0:39:53.760 --> 0:39:54.319
<v Speaker 2>I could even he.

0:39:54.440 --> 0:39:56.319
<v Speaker 1>If you could sing one album, if you only had

0:39:56.320 --> 0:39:59.080
<v Speaker 1>to sing one album and you could couldn't say you

0:39:59.200 --> 0:40:01.279
<v Speaker 1>got you got a lot of but you got to

0:40:01.360 --> 0:40:04.840
<v Speaker 1>saying one for the next year and only one what

0:40:04.960 --> 0:40:07.560
<v Speaker 1>you're rocking with, Man, that's a horror. Bro.

0:40:09.520 --> 0:40:15.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm a rock with Confessions. I'm right, it's well rounded.

0:40:15.960 --> 0:40:19.520
<v Speaker 2>But I mean just saying this, like between those two albums, yes,

0:40:20.000 --> 0:40:22.560
<v Speaker 2>I think that it would. It would definitely have to

0:40:22.560 --> 0:40:23.920
<v Speaker 2>be based off of success.

0:40:24.560 --> 0:40:25.719
<v Speaker 3>It would have to be confessions.

0:40:25.760 --> 0:40:30.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean when you look at it, I mean diamond, crazy, sexy, cool,

0:40:30.239 --> 0:40:32.839
<v Speaker 1>Whitney here, Whitney Houston, thriller, bro.

0:40:33.280 --> 0:40:35.680
<v Speaker 6>You get the diamond. Ain't a whole lot of diamonds

0:40:35.680 --> 0:40:36.120
<v Speaker 6>out there.

0:40:36.239 --> 0:40:39.239
<v Speaker 3>There has been no other diamond since in this yard.

0:40:40.719 --> 0:40:41.920
<v Speaker 6>That makes you feel good.

0:40:42.200 --> 0:40:43.839
<v Speaker 3>It's a good thing to have, you know what I'm saying.

0:40:43.840 --> 0:40:45.520
<v Speaker 3>But also too, it's a.

0:40:47.360 --> 0:40:49.640
<v Speaker 2>It's a bit of a thing, right because you're then

0:40:49.760 --> 0:40:52.080
<v Speaker 2>aiming at that. And I never wanted to get caught

0:40:52.160 --> 0:40:55.239
<v Speaker 2>up in what I've done in the past so much

0:40:55.280 --> 0:40:58.239
<v Speaker 2>that I can't focus on where I am because the

0:40:58.280 --> 0:41:02.480
<v Speaker 2>success has changed. Right If we, you know, could count

0:41:02.520 --> 0:41:06.520
<v Speaker 2>success by how many albums you actually sold, they don't

0:41:06.560 --> 0:41:10.120
<v Speaker 2>sell albums in that way as a physical copy. When

0:41:10.160 --> 0:41:12.960
<v Speaker 2>we get on a line, we stand outside of Tower Records.

0:41:13.000 --> 0:41:15.600
<v Speaker 2>You know you did it right. I did it too,

0:41:15.680 --> 0:41:17.280
<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying. And we got that album.

0:41:17.320 --> 0:41:19.440
<v Speaker 2>We weren't like quick ordering that joint or either just

0:41:19.440 --> 0:41:23.399
<v Speaker 2>clicking out a button and it's just there. So yeah,

0:41:23.440 --> 0:41:26.760
<v Speaker 2>it's like the measure of success has to change in life.

0:41:26.920 --> 0:41:28.680
<v Speaker 3>And by the way, this is important.

0:41:28.280 --> 0:41:31.560
<v Speaker 2>Because if you don't do that, you managed to get

0:41:31.600 --> 0:41:35.960
<v Speaker 2>caught in your mind and the psychological like damage that

0:41:36.080 --> 0:41:40.040
<v Speaker 2>could happen if you don't reach the same goal makes

0:41:40.080 --> 0:41:41.719
<v Speaker 2>you feel as though you're not a success.

0:41:42.160 --> 0:41:45.120
<v Speaker 3>That's not true. There's just always a different ship. Yo.

0:41:45.239 --> 0:41:47.799
<v Speaker 2>I remember when you know what I'm saying, Vince Carter

0:41:48.000 --> 0:41:51.760
<v Speaker 2>was jumping out the gym, bro Like Yo, he shifted

0:41:51.800 --> 0:41:56.080
<v Speaker 2>his whole game and three Crazy still can jump if

0:41:56.080 --> 0:41:56.560
<v Speaker 2>he wanted to.

0:41:56.600 --> 0:41:58.000
<v Speaker 3>But the Mankels, you know what I'm saying, They going,

0:41:58.960 --> 0:42:02.120
<v Speaker 3>That's what I'm saying. It's about. Yeah, those are the

0:42:02.120 --> 0:42:03.200
<v Speaker 3>people that I look up to.

0:42:03.239 --> 0:42:03.399
<v Speaker 2>Bro.

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<v Speaker 1>You said something very interesting because a lot and I've

0:42:06.400 --> 0:42:09.080
<v Speaker 1>heard people say this about Michael is that he kept

0:42:09.080 --> 0:42:11.719
<v Speaker 1>trying to replicate the success that they had with Thriller and.

0:42:12.040 --> 0:42:14.040
<v Speaker 6>Dirty Diana was a great album.

0:42:14.080 --> 0:42:17.600
<v Speaker 1>It's sold eight million copies and subsequent albums that came

0:42:17.640 --> 0:42:20.920
<v Speaker 1>out after that, but it wasn't Thriller, and it drove

0:42:21.000 --> 0:42:23.720
<v Speaker 1>him to a point that if it didn't do thirty million,

0:42:23.760 --> 0:42:26.480
<v Speaker 1>forty million, sixty million copies, he didn't feel like it

0:42:26.560 --> 0:42:29.760
<v Speaker 1>was successful. You said, I got in my mind early

0:42:29.840 --> 0:42:32.360
<v Speaker 1>on that if I don't do the physical number that

0:42:32.440 --> 0:42:34.640
<v Speaker 1>Confessions did, I'm okay with that.

0:42:34.800 --> 0:42:35.279
<v Speaker 3>How were you.

0:42:35.239 --> 0:42:36.240
<v Speaker 6>Able to do that? Usher?

0:42:37.040 --> 0:42:40.680
<v Speaker 1>Because we're measured by success, because we're only people judge

0:42:40.760 --> 0:42:44.200
<v Speaker 1>you by what you did as a younger you. They

0:42:44.200 --> 0:42:46.760
<v Speaker 1>don't compare you to anybody else that's in your genre currently.

0:42:47.120 --> 0:42:48.400
<v Speaker 1>They compare you to a younger you.

0:42:49.480 --> 0:42:50.640
<v Speaker 3>Well, they shouldn't.

0:42:54.840 --> 0:42:58.520
<v Speaker 1>Talk about how do I get it out of y'all?

0:42:58.520 --> 0:43:00.399
<v Speaker 1>See what he said, y'all be the leader a battle

0:43:00.400 --> 0:43:01.960
<v Speaker 1>all y'all keep talking about yall a keiga.

0:43:01.960 --> 0:43:03.759
<v Speaker 6>This is a key of that. I was sitting with

0:43:03.800 --> 0:43:04.560
<v Speaker 6>the kid right here.

0:43:05.040 --> 0:43:09.759
<v Speaker 2>You know, I'll just tell you two things on King

0:43:09.880 --> 0:43:13.400
<v Speaker 2>talk right, but the confessions right again.

0:43:13.560 --> 0:43:15.280
<v Speaker 3>If you are.

0:43:17.560 --> 0:43:24.279
<v Speaker 2>Living by the applause, you will die by the bulls TI.

0:43:24.400 --> 0:43:27.319
<v Speaker 2>I told me that, and it's spot on. If you

0:43:27.400 --> 0:43:29.600
<v Speaker 2>live for the applause, you're gonna die by the bulls.

0:43:29.800 --> 0:43:31.800
<v Speaker 2>You gotta do what you gotta do, and you gotta

0:43:32.080 --> 0:43:34.880
<v Speaker 2>make your offering as clear as it could potentially be

0:43:34.880 --> 0:43:37.680
<v Speaker 2>because it's gonna serve at least one person, because that's

0:43:37.719 --> 0:43:39.760
<v Speaker 2>why we really do it right. We do it because

0:43:39.760 --> 0:43:42.560
<v Speaker 2>we want to offer something that's gonna be the right

0:43:42.600 --> 0:43:44.799
<v Speaker 2>dialogue or the right help or the right moment or

0:43:44.800 --> 0:43:47.200
<v Speaker 2>the right service to whatever needed to happen in that moment,

0:43:47.200 --> 0:43:51.040
<v Speaker 2>the celebration of love making, the baby making, the ability

0:43:51.040 --> 0:43:53.279
<v Speaker 2>to be emotional and finally be able to say what

0:43:53.320 --> 0:43:57.560
<v Speaker 2>you really mean to this person, you know, be true

0:43:57.560 --> 0:44:01.680
<v Speaker 2>to that. If you start to chase the success in

0:44:01.760 --> 0:44:05.120
<v Speaker 2>that same way, it'll it could.

0:44:04.960 --> 0:44:05.680
<v Speaker 3>Drive you crazy.

0:44:06.400 --> 0:44:07.920
<v Speaker 2>The only way that I was able to do that

0:44:08.200 --> 0:44:11.920
<v Speaker 2>is to focus on other things, to focus on building

0:44:13.520 --> 0:44:17.560
<v Speaker 2>lontitude lonchitude latitude, Right, I gotta build more space. Let's

0:44:17.600 --> 0:44:19.440
<v Speaker 2>take this thing that I got, my perspective, and I

0:44:19.480 --> 0:44:21.000
<v Speaker 2>want to introduce some other artists.

0:44:21.239 --> 0:44:22.120
<v Speaker 3>I want to try and go.

0:44:22.280 --> 0:44:24.040
<v Speaker 2>Let me go fail at some other things and get

0:44:24.040 --> 0:44:26.520
<v Speaker 2>great at that. Right, because you peak in some way

0:44:26.600 --> 0:44:28.520
<v Speaker 2>in some ways and then you figure out something else

0:44:28.560 --> 0:44:30.160
<v Speaker 2>to work on, and then you peak at that and

0:44:30.200 --> 0:44:31.799
<v Speaker 2>you figure out something else you peak at that.

0:44:32.040 --> 0:44:35.320
<v Speaker 1>But how you able to have such success in willing

0:44:35.400 --> 0:44:38.040
<v Speaker 1>to go try something that you might fail at. I mean,

0:44:38.080 --> 0:44:40.759
<v Speaker 1>once you become successful, you like, I kind of like this,

0:44:40.800 --> 0:44:41.799
<v Speaker 1>I ain't really trying to.

0:44:41.719 --> 0:44:42.919
<v Speaker 6>Fail, so I kind of want to stay.

0:44:42.960 --> 0:44:44.480
<v Speaker 1>I want to come and stay where I'm at, But

0:44:44.520 --> 0:44:46.680
<v Speaker 1>you're willing to go outside, and it's like, okay, let

0:44:46.760 --> 0:44:48.200
<v Speaker 1>me try to be a producer, let me try to

0:44:48.200 --> 0:44:48.960
<v Speaker 1>discover talent.

0:44:49.200 --> 0:44:54.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I mean part of it, as to honestly,

0:44:54.440 --> 0:44:59.440
<v Speaker 2>became a bit of a reckless sting for me because

0:44:59.520 --> 0:45:02.000
<v Speaker 2>I think some of the actions that i'd taken, some

0:45:02.040 --> 0:45:05.160
<v Speaker 2>of the decisions that I made, began to sabotage me.

0:45:05.560 --> 0:45:07.920
<v Speaker 2>And it may have been personal sabotage because I just

0:45:07.960 --> 0:45:11.160
<v Speaker 2>wanted some idea of normalcy. I wanted to be able

0:45:11.200 --> 0:45:13.040
<v Speaker 2>to get back to normal. I wanted to be able

0:45:13.120 --> 0:45:15.080
<v Speaker 2>to have like a little bit. I didn't look at

0:45:15.120 --> 0:45:17.359
<v Speaker 2>it the same way like, yo, I gotta go like

0:45:17.480 --> 0:45:21.160
<v Speaker 2>we just were now, you know, we're getting ready to

0:45:21.160 --> 0:45:22.359
<v Speaker 2>take off. Now, I want to go to the moon.

0:45:22.480 --> 0:45:23.919
<v Speaker 2>Get to the moon. I want to go to the sun.

0:45:23.960 --> 0:45:24.560
<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying.

0:45:25.560 --> 0:45:27.680
<v Speaker 2>Nah, I think that in some way I started to

0:45:28.080 --> 0:45:30.439
<v Speaker 2>figure like I need to move things around and maybe

0:45:30.800 --> 0:45:33.279
<v Speaker 2>move things, and some steps didn't help me.

0:45:33.920 --> 0:45:37.359
<v Speaker 3>Some things that I did were not right, some decisions I.

0:45:37.360 --> 0:45:40.920
<v Speaker 2>Made, you know, hey, but I lived with them all too,

0:45:40.960 --> 0:45:45.839
<v Speaker 2>by the way, and I'm okay with that.

0:45:45.840 --> 0:45:47.719
<v Speaker 3>That's the only way that I was able to get

0:45:47.760 --> 0:45:48.160
<v Speaker 3>through it.

0:45:48.360 --> 0:45:51.960
<v Speaker 2>I actually enjoy being in a position where I'm a

0:45:51.960 --> 0:45:53.879
<v Speaker 2>bit of an underdog and I gotta fight my way

0:45:53.920 --> 0:45:55.799
<v Speaker 2>back up to the top. I love for you to say,

0:45:55.840 --> 0:45:58.120
<v Speaker 2>oh it's over. I love you to say, oh, now

0:45:58.160 --> 0:45:59.040
<v Speaker 2>he ain't gonna do it again.

0:45:59.320 --> 0:46:01.480
<v Speaker 3>Oh no, I can't happened. You know that? Right there

0:46:01.520 --> 0:46:02.600
<v Speaker 3>is motivation.

0:46:02.400 --> 0:46:04.920
<v Speaker 2>Because that means I got someplace to go, I got

0:46:04.920 --> 0:46:05.560
<v Speaker 2>some pace to grow.

0:46:05.680 --> 0:46:07.240
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you were the first artist in the twenty

0:46:07.239 --> 0:46:10.360
<v Speaker 1>ten to collect three number one singles in three consecutive decades.

0:46:10.400 --> 0:46:12.759
<v Speaker 1>The nineties, Nice and slow you make me want to yep,

0:46:13.160 --> 0:46:16.160
<v Speaker 1>you make me want to lead a one my way,

0:46:16.280 --> 0:46:18.440
<v Speaker 1>And then in two thousands you remind me you got

0:46:18.520 --> 0:46:20.279
<v Speaker 1>it bad. You don't have to call it yeah, burn

0:46:20.320 --> 0:46:24.160
<v Speaker 1>Confessional part too. And then twenty ten, omg, there goes

0:46:24.200 --> 0:46:25.040
<v Speaker 1>my baby climax.

0:46:25.160 --> 0:46:26.000
<v Speaker 6>D hits.

0:46:26.280 --> 0:46:30.360
<v Speaker 3>I mean you got hits, Yes, got some hits.

0:46:30.400 --> 0:46:33.560
<v Speaker 6>Brou I mean you were landing more puces than Mayweather.

0:46:33.880 --> 0:46:36.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, yeah?

0:46:37.120 --> 0:46:39.799
<v Speaker 1>Have you When will you sit? When will you go

0:46:39.880 --> 0:46:41.759
<v Speaker 1>back and sit back? I mean, or do you take

0:46:41.800 --> 0:46:42.320
<v Speaker 1>the time.

0:46:42.280 --> 0:46:45.200
<v Speaker 3>Like this is it? That's what's happening right now.

0:46:45.520 --> 0:46:48.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm actually sitting back and enjoying all of the labor

0:46:48.239 --> 0:46:48.440
<v Speaker 2>of that.

0:46:49.560 --> 0:46:50.719
<v Speaker 3>That's the moment I'm in right now.

0:46:50.719 --> 0:46:50.920
<v Speaker 6>I'm in.

0:46:51.280 --> 0:46:54.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm in that moment of really enjoying the hard work.

0:46:55.239 --> 0:46:56.600
<v Speaker 3>Now I don't get a lot of sleep, but.

0:46:56.560 --> 0:46:58.319
<v Speaker 2>I think that that's just the reality of who I

0:46:58.360 --> 0:47:00.040
<v Speaker 2>am as a person, because I love the work and

0:47:00.120 --> 0:47:01.920
<v Speaker 2>I love I love to create.

0:47:02.320 --> 0:47:03.560
<v Speaker 3>But I'm enjoying it.

0:47:03.600 --> 0:47:07.080
<v Speaker 2>Finally, I'm able to, you know, because I've always been

0:47:07.200 --> 0:47:11.040
<v Speaker 2>of service to people. Rather I'm offering something and raether

0:47:11.120 --> 0:47:12.839
<v Speaker 2>they like it or not as really up to them,

0:47:12.920 --> 0:47:13.440
<v Speaker 2>not up to me.

0:47:14.480 --> 0:47:17.520
<v Speaker 3>But I like that that actually makes me feel good.

0:47:18.120 --> 0:47:21.239
<v Speaker 2>But now I get a chance to actually enjoy what

0:47:21.360 --> 0:47:23.840
<v Speaker 2>I am creating, enjoy what I have created.

0:47:24.360 --> 0:47:28.000
<v Speaker 6>What's your favorite decade meanties?

0:47:28.280 --> 0:47:33.640
<v Speaker 2>I think somewhere in the seventies, like being motivated by

0:47:33.680 --> 0:47:37.360
<v Speaker 2>that and bringing that forward because so many incredible artists

0:47:37.400 --> 0:47:39.960
<v Speaker 2>were born in that time or created in that moment.

0:47:41.640 --> 0:47:44.120
<v Speaker 2>Living in the nineties, I say it was a grand

0:47:44.200 --> 0:47:46.000
<v Speaker 2>moment for all of us because it was a mixture

0:47:46.040 --> 0:47:48.480
<v Speaker 2>between R and B and hip hop and a way

0:47:48.520 --> 0:47:51.839
<v Speaker 2>that felt, you know, it felt sensational by the way,

0:47:51.960 --> 0:47:55.520
<v Speaker 2>even in the South, because the South it didn't have

0:47:55.560 --> 0:47:57.520
<v Speaker 2>as much of a definition. But through the nineties and

0:47:57.520 --> 0:48:00.600
<v Speaker 2>then onto the two thousands, you then begin to understand,

0:48:00.840 --> 0:48:06.279
<v Speaker 2>you know, organized noise, Jermaine Duprie, Little John, incredible producers,

0:48:06.280 --> 0:48:08.160
<v Speaker 2>out of the out of the out of the South,

0:48:08.239 --> 0:48:11.799
<v Speaker 2>you know, begin to really really have a moment. But

0:48:11.880 --> 0:48:14.360
<v Speaker 2>I really do think that it's something in the seventies.

0:48:14.360 --> 0:48:16.759
<v Speaker 2>Bro like the artist that came out of the seventies.

0:48:17.600 --> 0:48:19.879
<v Speaker 1>If you could, if you could have left, I'm gonna

0:48:19.880 --> 0:48:23.440
<v Speaker 1>give you three. If you can perform with three, collab

0:48:23.520 --> 0:48:26.200
<v Speaker 1>with three artists from the seventies, who would it.

0:48:26.120 --> 0:48:33.120
<v Speaker 2>Be if I could have collabed with them in the seventies,

0:48:33.280 --> 0:48:34.680
<v Speaker 2>it would have been Quincy Jones.

0:48:35.560 --> 0:48:44.520
<v Speaker 3>You know, it would have been out of Philly. Huh,

0:48:45.280 --> 0:48:46.160
<v Speaker 3>gambling huff.

0:48:47.960 --> 0:48:53.560
<v Speaker 2>Let me see who else seventies? I think I said

0:48:53.560 --> 0:48:55.080
<v Speaker 2>the two that that that actually is so.

0:48:55.200 --> 0:48:57.600
<v Speaker 1>I thought you, I thought you was talking about artists

0:48:57.719 --> 0:49:00.000
<v Speaker 1>that you would have liked to perform with, Oh, perform with?

0:49:00.160 --> 0:49:02.040
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, an artist you wanted collab with?

0:49:02.680 --> 0:49:07.000
<v Speaker 2>Our artists, to collab with, man, it would have been

0:49:07.000 --> 0:49:10.880
<v Speaker 2>great to do something with like Diana Ross would have

0:49:10.920 --> 0:49:14.759
<v Speaker 2>been great to do something, would you know, Donny Hathaway

0:49:15.760 --> 0:49:17.400
<v Speaker 2>would have been great to do something with.

0:49:19.880 --> 0:49:20.680
<v Speaker 3>Michael Jackson.

0:49:20.920 --> 0:49:24.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, give me a mount rushmore of r and B singers,

0:49:24.560 --> 0:49:27.160
<v Speaker 1>Mount Rushmore. You only get four ushers. So I mean

0:49:27.160 --> 0:49:30.080
<v Speaker 1>I've had people on here that Stevie Wonder.

0:49:31.719 --> 0:49:36.360
<v Speaker 3>Let me see Donny Hathaway, Whitney Houston.

0:49:37.880 --> 0:49:43.760
<v Speaker 8>Oh, I said Stevie Wonder, right, you put him on twice,

0:49:46.440 --> 0:49:51.200
<v Speaker 8>Michael Jackson, Marvin Gabe that not just.

0:49:51.239 --> 0:49:52.080
<v Speaker 6>Yere, you had four.

0:49:52.400 --> 0:49:54.879
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, I'm saying, I'm okay, so I can't take

0:49:54.920 --> 0:49:56.080
<v Speaker 2>Michael off from Marvin. All.

0:49:56.200 --> 0:49:58.040
<v Speaker 6>Come on, now you look at Michael's R and B

0:49:58.719 --> 0:50:01.319
<v Speaker 6>do I you you know? I mean I thought he

0:50:01.400 --> 0:50:03.480
<v Speaker 6>was the king of pop, but.

0:50:03.520 --> 0:50:06.520
<v Speaker 2>Man, he created a format that like R and B

0:50:06.719 --> 0:50:11.800
<v Speaker 2>was like, I mean, you know this is He's interesting, right? Kings?

0:50:11.880 --> 0:50:14.600
<v Speaker 3>Right? Yes, I think all of those guys are kings.

0:50:14.719 --> 0:50:14.799
<v Speaker 6>Right.

0:50:16.280 --> 0:50:18.280
<v Speaker 2>I think that we get so caught up on being

0:50:18.320 --> 0:50:21.320
<v Speaker 2>the number one king person right to have that title,

0:50:21.360 --> 0:50:22.280
<v Speaker 2>to be the king.

0:50:22.480 --> 0:50:24.640
<v Speaker 1>Because normally only got one king. You got a king

0:50:24.680 --> 0:50:26.080
<v Speaker 1>or the queen. You got a lot of princes. You

0:50:26.080 --> 0:50:28.040
<v Speaker 1>can be a lot of princes, but you can only.

0:50:27.920 --> 0:50:28.759
<v Speaker 6>Have one king. Usher.

0:50:28.760 --> 0:50:30.680
<v Speaker 2>You can only have one king one queen, which you

0:50:30.719 --> 0:50:34.320
<v Speaker 2>can only have one usher. Baby, and Usher, you know

0:50:34.360 --> 0:50:36.040
<v Speaker 2>what I'm saying. He gets the ceremony. Right, he come

0:50:36.040 --> 0:50:37.799
<v Speaker 2>out white glove service. Baby. You know what I'm saying,

0:50:37.840 --> 0:50:42.200
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna delip knob now. But greater than being a

0:50:42.280 --> 0:50:44.640
<v Speaker 2>king or either saying I want to have that one spot.

0:50:44.680 --> 0:50:47.720
<v Speaker 3>What I see is needed is a king, dumb okay.

0:50:47.880 --> 0:50:49.600
<v Speaker 2>Right, So when I look at all of the genres

0:50:49.600 --> 0:50:53.000
<v Speaker 2>of music, I see EDM and I look at festivals,

0:50:53.040 --> 0:50:56.359
<v Speaker 2>and I look at the lifestyle, the equipment I look at.

0:50:56.440 --> 0:50:58.800
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying, Country music, I think boots,

0:50:58.840 --> 0:51:01.640
<v Speaker 2>I think cowboys. You know what I'm saying, I think chaps,

0:51:01.920 --> 0:51:04.520
<v Speaker 2>I think cowboy hats and rodeos and all kinds of.

0:51:04.480 --> 0:51:05.880
<v Speaker 3>Stuff like that. I think pickups.

0:51:05.960 --> 0:51:08.280
<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying. There's a culture there, right,

0:51:08.520 --> 0:51:12.440
<v Speaker 2>there's a kingdom to this idea. There's a monetization of

0:51:12.480 --> 0:51:15.759
<v Speaker 2>that thing. R and B are either the genre that

0:51:15.840 --> 0:51:18.520
<v Speaker 2>I came from. I don't think it possesses the same

0:51:18.760 --> 0:51:22.879
<v Speaker 2>weight in terms of the other ancillary businesses that are there.

0:51:23.280 --> 0:51:26.400
<v Speaker 2>And that's what I'm focused on. We gonna be all kings.

0:51:26.440 --> 0:51:27.719
<v Speaker 2>Matter of fact, you know what I'm saying, it's tons

0:51:27.719 --> 0:51:29.080
<v Speaker 2>of people who put in the work. I ain't the

0:51:29.080 --> 0:51:31.640
<v Speaker 2>only person that's been put in them thousand hours, and

0:51:32.320 --> 0:51:34.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't know or profess to be the only king.

0:51:34.920 --> 0:51:36.279
<v Speaker 3>Am I the king of what I feel?

0:51:36.360 --> 0:51:36.520
<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

0:51:36.560 --> 0:51:38.279
<v Speaker 2>I am. Every day I wake up feeling like a king,

0:51:38.640 --> 0:51:40.080
<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying. And I work hard to

0:51:40.120 --> 0:51:42.640
<v Speaker 2>be that king. But I want a kingdom. I want

0:51:42.719 --> 0:51:44.840
<v Speaker 2>us to be able to have the same pope to see.

0:51:44.640 --> 0:51:45.239
<v Speaker 3>In hip hop.

0:51:45.520 --> 0:51:47.759
<v Speaker 2>Right, when I think of hip hop, I think of

0:51:47.840 --> 0:51:49.920
<v Speaker 2>what you're drinking. I think about the glasses you wear.

0:51:50.000 --> 0:51:51.520
<v Speaker 2>I think about the shoes you got on. I think

0:51:51.560 --> 0:51:54.360
<v Speaker 2>about you know, the records, I think about that culture.

0:51:54.400 --> 0:51:57.040
<v Speaker 2>I think about the clothes you're wearing. Right, I want

0:51:57.080 --> 0:51:59.640
<v Speaker 2>the same thing. I want that kingdom for R and B.

0:51:59.760 --> 0:52:00.560
<v Speaker 3>In that same.

0:52:00.360 --> 0:52:03.680
<v Speaker 1>Way, who was presented a collab with Usher and he

0:52:03.719 --> 0:52:05.680
<v Speaker 1>turned it down and he's like, damn, my should have

0:52:05.680 --> 0:52:07.600
<v Speaker 1>did that collaboration?

0:52:07.840 --> 0:52:08.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Is there collab that someone asked you to be a

0:52:11.760 --> 0:52:14.520
<v Speaker 1>part of and you didn't And when it came out, you're.

0:52:14.400 --> 0:52:18.240
<v Speaker 2>Like, damn, Yeah, you're gonna hate me for this one.

0:52:18.560 --> 0:52:27.759
<v Speaker 2>Oh jay Z for real, Diddy, Damn Usher and me

0:52:28.239 --> 0:52:29.280
<v Speaker 2>was supposed to be a group.

0:52:31.200 --> 0:52:34.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah that's crazy. Yeah, you're gonna hate me for that.

0:52:34.280 --> 0:52:35.280
<v Speaker 3>I know Yeah.

0:52:35.520 --> 0:52:36.839
<v Speaker 6>Why Why did you say no?

0:52:37.040 --> 0:52:39.680
<v Speaker 3>I didn't say no, you didn't say yeah. I didn't

0:52:39.719 --> 0:52:40.440
<v Speaker 3>say yeah.

0:52:41.120 --> 0:52:42.320
<v Speaker 6>You said yeah on the record.

0:52:42.320 --> 0:52:46.879
<v Speaker 2>But that's the one I think that we just got

0:52:46.920 --> 0:52:48.880
<v Speaker 2>caught up. I think we all got caught up in

0:52:48.920 --> 0:52:51.520
<v Speaker 2>a moment. We was talking about it, having secret meetings

0:52:51.520 --> 0:52:53.480
<v Speaker 2>about it. We were talking about music and how we're

0:52:53.480 --> 0:52:56.960
<v Speaker 2>gonna flip it in the business of it, and somehow, man,

0:52:57.040 --> 0:53:00.239
<v Speaker 2>we just got distracted, you know what I'm saying.

0:53:00.040 --> 0:53:01.640
<v Speaker 3>And it never happened.

0:53:01.680 --> 0:53:04.560
<v Speaker 2>You know, that's the one that I actually wish would

0:53:04.600 --> 0:53:08.680
<v Speaker 2>have happened. Is there a movie or something that I

0:53:08.840 --> 0:53:13.880
<v Speaker 2>was supposed to be a part of a collaboration. Yeah,

0:53:14.000 --> 0:53:17.120
<v Speaker 2>David Geffen reached out to me to be uh in

0:53:17.200 --> 0:53:19.000
<v Speaker 2>dream Girls, and.

0:53:20.960 --> 0:53:22.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, man, it just didn't happen.

0:53:23.400 --> 0:53:25.120
<v Speaker 2>And I had, I think everybody hit me about this

0:53:25.200 --> 0:53:25.520
<v Speaker 2>joint too.

0:53:25.560 --> 0:53:28.640
<v Speaker 3>I had Eddie Murphy hit me, Man Brandy hit me.

0:53:28.800 --> 0:53:31.640
<v Speaker 1>It's just there's never just there's always a reason. You

0:53:31.640 --> 0:53:33.440
<v Speaker 1>don't get in your car just sit there. You go

0:53:33.520 --> 0:53:35.759
<v Speaker 1>to the grocery school, when you drive to the you

0:53:35.840 --> 0:53:37.400
<v Speaker 1>drive to a concert.

0:53:37.600 --> 0:53:39.640
<v Speaker 6>I know you turned that down.

0:53:40.239 --> 0:53:41.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah I didn't do it.

0:53:42.080 --> 0:53:47.160
<v Speaker 6>Didn't you know about this? Yeah?

0:53:47.600 --> 0:53:48.040
<v Speaker 3>Drink of that.

0:53:49.560 --> 0:53:52.319
<v Speaker 1>I read that you were beyond saves nanny? Will you

0:53:52.360 --> 0:53:53.280
<v Speaker 1>beyond nanny?

0:53:53.719 --> 0:53:54.920
<v Speaker 3>First of all, how can I be a nanny?

0:53:54.920 --> 0:53:56.759
<v Speaker 6>I'll be a manny, you know what I mean?

0:53:56.840 --> 0:53:58.799
<v Speaker 2>No, Noah, I wouldn't. I wouldn't be on sa nanny.

0:53:58.880 --> 0:53:59.040
<v Speaker 6>Nah.

0:54:00.480 --> 0:54:02.800
<v Speaker 2>Darryl Simmons, he had a group by the name of

0:54:02.840 --> 0:54:05.480
<v Speaker 2>the Dolls, Okay, and they came to Atlanta for the

0:54:05.520 --> 0:54:08.480
<v Speaker 2>first time. This is when this before Destney's child became

0:54:08.520 --> 0:54:12.279
<v Speaker 2>Destney's child. And I think I looked over them while

0:54:12.280 --> 0:54:13.960
<v Speaker 2>they were doing something in the house. I had to

0:54:13.960 --> 0:54:16.560
<v Speaker 2>watch them because I was like the the authority, because

0:54:16.560 --> 0:54:18.920
<v Speaker 2>I guess I was the teenager at the time. But nah,

0:54:18.920 --> 0:54:20.399
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't a nanny, you know what I'm saying.

0:54:20.600 --> 0:54:22.560
<v Speaker 6>No, But you were just overseeing them, making sure they

0:54:22.560 --> 0:54:23.080
<v Speaker 6>at break them.

0:54:23.040 --> 0:54:24.520
<v Speaker 2>Make it certain that they didn't You know that they

0:54:24.520 --> 0:54:26.439
<v Speaker 2>didn't get in no trouble in the house at the time.

0:54:26.600 --> 0:54:29.560
<v Speaker 1>Did you see Did you know that little girl was

0:54:29.560 --> 0:54:32.840
<v Speaker 1>going to grow up to be that big international superstar?

0:54:33.760 --> 0:54:36.160
<v Speaker 1>Can you look at because you did discover Justin Bieber,

0:54:36.239 --> 0:54:38.520
<v Speaker 1>So you did see something so clearly you got an

0:54:38.520 --> 0:54:39.200
<v Speaker 1>eye for talent.

0:54:39.960 --> 0:54:40.320
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

0:54:40.480 --> 0:54:43.280
<v Speaker 3>Well, and not just by myself. There was a host

0:54:43.280 --> 0:54:43.640
<v Speaker 3>of people.

0:54:43.680 --> 0:54:46.320
<v Speaker 2>You know, they say success has a million fathers and

0:54:46.560 --> 0:54:49.680
<v Speaker 2>an orphan you know, you know, I got it. So

0:54:53.200 --> 0:54:55.560
<v Speaker 2>I think when I saw them, I knew there was

0:54:55.560 --> 0:54:59.200
<v Speaker 2>something very special about all of them because as Destiny's child,

0:54:59.560 --> 0:55:02.040
<v Speaker 2>they all thrive. Even still to this day, when you

0:55:02.080 --> 0:55:05.200
<v Speaker 2>see them and you see them together, they all thrive.

0:55:05.280 --> 0:55:07.439
<v Speaker 3>They all are an incredible unit.

0:55:08.120 --> 0:55:12.239
<v Speaker 2>Beyonce had a talent and also too, a brilliance and

0:55:12.280 --> 0:55:15.600
<v Speaker 2>a brightness that was much different. And it was actually

0:55:16.120 --> 0:55:19.440
<v Speaker 2>Frank Gatston Gatson who helped me. See he worked with

0:55:19.440 --> 0:55:21.719
<v Speaker 2>me at the time, he was my choreographer, and then

0:55:21.719 --> 0:55:24.879
<v Speaker 2>he started working with them, and he'd always told me, man,

0:55:24.920 --> 0:55:27.040
<v Speaker 2>like she's really special. You need to keep your eye

0:55:27.040 --> 0:55:29.160
<v Speaker 2>on her. I was like, man, she is. She is

0:55:29.239 --> 0:55:32.880
<v Speaker 2>really special and really great for my sister. Man to

0:55:32.920 --> 0:55:36.720
<v Speaker 2>see that she's done so amazing and continue to thrive

0:55:36.760 --> 0:55:40.040
<v Speaker 2>and just get bigger and better and just you know,

0:55:40.280 --> 0:55:43.040
<v Speaker 2>just I mean, rather it's musically or in our life

0:55:43.120 --> 0:55:44.400
<v Speaker 2>or creativity, all of it.

0:55:44.440 --> 0:55:47.160
<v Speaker 1>Man, how is it working being on the stage with

0:55:47.200 --> 0:55:51.480
<v Speaker 1>Michael Jackson Because he's I mean, if you're in this business.

0:55:51.280 --> 0:55:52.400
<v Speaker 3>It's nerve breaking.

0:55:54.040 --> 0:55:56.880
<v Speaker 2>Bruh, I'm gonna tell you you know.

0:55:57.200 --> 0:55:58.720
<v Speaker 3>So I'm in my seat.

0:55:58.400 --> 0:56:02.239
<v Speaker 2>And his manager comes over to me and he says, yo,

0:56:02.880 --> 0:56:05.280
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna dance with Michael tonight. I'm like, I'm watching

0:56:05.280 --> 0:56:06.959
<v Speaker 2>the show. What the heck do you mean I'm getting

0:56:06.960 --> 0:56:09.280
<v Speaker 2>ready to dance with Michael. So he's like, no, come backstage.

0:56:09.320 --> 0:56:11.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, first of all, i ain't got my air

0:56:11.480 --> 0:56:13.840
<v Speaker 2>Force ones and I'm in boots. I can't dance in boots.

0:56:14.200 --> 0:56:16.480
<v Speaker 2>So I'm like, oh my god, So now I'm going crazy.

0:56:16.480 --> 0:56:18.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm backstage running around your lasting. I was asking like

0:56:19.080 --> 0:56:21.920
<v Speaker 2>the people on the street yoah. I literally left bru

0:56:22.000 --> 0:56:24.480
<v Speaker 2>and I ran outside down the street asking somebody for

0:56:24.560 --> 0:56:27.000
<v Speaker 2>some shoes, give me some air Force ones. They it

0:56:27.040 --> 0:56:30.520
<v Speaker 2>was like wallabies and like some new balances. I was like, Nah,

0:56:30.520 --> 0:56:31.239
<v Speaker 2>that ain't gonna get it.

0:56:31.280 --> 0:56:33.760
<v Speaker 3>I need air Force one.

0:56:34.200 --> 0:56:35.960
<v Speaker 2>So I come back in. I ain't got my air

0:56:35.960 --> 0:56:38.680
<v Speaker 2>Force ones. I ask some like some boots. So anyway,

0:56:38.680 --> 0:56:41.239
<v Speaker 2>I went out there, so y'all see me like, I'm

0:56:41.800 --> 0:56:44.560
<v Speaker 2>I look, I'm stuck a little bit that that's really

0:56:44.600 --> 0:56:47.719
<v Speaker 2>what happened. But no, I it was nerve racking to

0:56:47.840 --> 0:56:53.560
<v Speaker 2>actually dance for and with Michael. I can remember rehearsals,

0:56:54.160 --> 0:56:57.879
<v Speaker 2>and I mean I don't normally go all a lot of rehearsals. Dude,

0:56:57.880 --> 0:57:01.719
<v Speaker 2>I was going off out singing at the top of

0:57:01.719 --> 0:57:06.480
<v Speaker 2>my lungs, dancing harder than I've ever danced, sweating, flying

0:57:06.520 --> 0:57:09.600
<v Speaker 2>all over the room. He was like, man, you really

0:57:09.640 --> 0:57:11.600
<v Speaker 2>have a talent. That was one of the greatest compliments

0:57:11.600 --> 0:57:13.680
<v Speaker 2>that I could ever get. Wow, he says to me,

0:57:14.440 --> 0:57:17.680
<v Speaker 2>you not only sing, but you dance to I know

0:57:17.720 --> 0:57:18.720
<v Speaker 2>how hard that is.

0:57:19.560 --> 0:57:23.760
<v Speaker 3>You sing and you dance. That combination is vicious.

0:57:24.280 --> 0:57:25.840
<v Speaker 6>That the greatest compliment you received.

0:57:25.880 --> 0:57:27.919
<v Speaker 3>He didn't say vicious, but he said you dance and sing.

0:57:27.960 --> 0:57:29.440
<v Speaker 3>I'm putting two into ten, right.

0:57:29.720 --> 0:57:36.000
<v Speaker 2>He said that that that's a really special talent and

0:57:36.040 --> 0:57:37.880
<v Speaker 2>it really felt good to get that compliment from him.

0:57:37.920 --> 0:57:40.480
<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, at we running the music game, absolutely

0:57:40.760 --> 0:57:45.080
<v Speaker 1>were on top of the world. How did that because

0:57:45.200 --> 0:57:48.200
<v Speaker 1>you're a part of that. Yes, I mean you can't.

0:57:48.240 --> 0:57:51.880
<v Speaker 1>You can't tell the story of Atlanta music without mentioned

0:57:52.600 --> 0:57:53.200
<v Speaker 1>usher raiment.

0:57:53.320 --> 0:57:57.320
<v Speaker 6>No, man, how did that make you feel? Man?

0:57:57.360 --> 0:57:59.480
<v Speaker 3>We did something? Man that a man.

0:57:59.520 --> 0:58:01.760
<v Speaker 2>Listen, I've got something to say, is what Dre said,

0:58:02.200 --> 0:58:04.920
<v Speaker 2>and we've been saying it for a long time, you know,

0:58:05.000 --> 0:58:07.760
<v Speaker 2>and the potency of that, you know.

0:58:08.200 --> 0:58:10.560
<v Speaker 3>I think it's great. I think more than anything.

0:58:10.640 --> 0:58:13.960
<v Speaker 2>Again, there's this transition and this focus just for me,

0:58:14.240 --> 0:58:16.800
<v Speaker 2>and I think it should be a focus for more artists,

0:58:16.800 --> 0:58:18.440
<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying, to really focus on the

0:58:18.600 --> 0:58:24.800
<v Speaker 2>other things that these genres or Southern music and entertainment breeds.

0:58:25.240 --> 0:58:26.240
<v Speaker 3>There's an entire.

0:58:26.080 --> 0:58:31.680
<v Speaker 2>Movement and feeling when you come to Atlanta, right, the

0:58:31.720 --> 0:58:33.560
<v Speaker 2>world needs to know that.

0:58:33.560 --> 0:58:36.480
<v Speaker 3>That's why I brought Atlanta to Las Vegas.

0:58:37.680 --> 0:58:39.880
<v Speaker 2>You need to understand it no different Like you look

0:58:39.880 --> 0:58:42.760
<v Speaker 2>at Circasole and all of those shows, right, they celebrate

0:58:42.800 --> 0:58:43.280
<v Speaker 2>their culture.

0:58:43.320 --> 0:58:46.640
<v Speaker 3>Whether it's in Spain or wherever it is. Our culture

0:58:46.640 --> 0:58:47.120
<v Speaker 3>is the same.

0:58:47.760 --> 0:58:49.760
<v Speaker 2>It might not be marketed the same, it might not

0:58:49.920 --> 0:58:53.680
<v Speaker 2>feel because it's culture, but all cultural things eventually become

0:58:53.760 --> 0:58:54.840
<v Speaker 2>something that's commercial.

0:58:55.200 --> 0:58:56.960
<v Speaker 3>And I wanted the world to be able to see

0:58:57.000 --> 0:58:58.000
<v Speaker 3>and celebrate.

0:58:57.600 --> 0:59:00.840
<v Speaker 2>Who we are, how we get out, what our music

0:59:00.880 --> 0:59:03.760
<v Speaker 2>feels like, what our energy is, what our experience is.

0:59:04.000 --> 0:59:06.880
<v Speaker 1>You know two part question, yep, it's R and B

0:59:07.040 --> 0:59:09.760
<v Speaker 1>dead and will R and B ever be what it

0:59:09.760 --> 0:59:12.840
<v Speaker 1>once was? At the height I'm talking about at the

0:59:12.960 --> 0:59:16.160
<v Speaker 1>height nineties, early two thousand it was.

0:59:18.680 --> 0:59:20.000
<v Speaker 6>Will it ever be bad again?

0:59:20.560 --> 0:59:22.720
<v Speaker 3>So long as we.

0:59:24.960 --> 0:59:30.000
<v Speaker 2>Quantify the success of it as a number one spot

0:59:30.240 --> 0:59:32.840
<v Speaker 2>that has to be garnered in order to consider R

0:59:32.880 --> 0:59:35.880
<v Speaker 2>and B the biggest thing. I don't know that's in

0:59:35.960 --> 0:59:39.200
<v Speaker 2>question for the world musically. I think that R and

0:59:39.240 --> 0:59:42.800
<v Speaker 2>B is in everything. See, I ain't no fool. I

0:59:42.880 --> 0:59:45.800
<v Speaker 2>understand where it all comes from. I understand the source.

0:59:46.320 --> 0:59:49.320
<v Speaker 2>Maybe y'all don't understand the source. Maybe you don't understand

0:59:49.360 --> 0:59:52.800
<v Speaker 2>that it's gospel blues, R and B and everything flowed

0:59:52.880 --> 0:59:57.480
<v Speaker 2>upward from there. So no, it's gonna forever be a source.

0:59:58.400 --> 1:00:01.959
<v Speaker 2>Will it be and have potency for the entire world

1:00:02.040 --> 1:00:05.040
<v Speaker 2>to celebrate? I believe so, and I'm gonna continue to

1:00:05.040 --> 1:00:07.320
<v Speaker 2>fight for it. I'm gonna continue to be that conduct

1:00:07.440 --> 1:00:10.360
<v Speaker 2>for it. As I said, Man, it's a kingdom. I'm

1:00:10.560 --> 1:00:13.400
<v Speaker 2>kingdom that I'm after. I want the world to understand

1:00:13.520 --> 1:00:15.880
<v Speaker 2>the value of what this music is, not just the

1:00:15.920 --> 1:00:18.080
<v Speaker 2>service of it. Yeah, you put it on to make love.

1:00:18.360 --> 1:00:20.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah you put it on to celebrate good times. Yeah

1:00:20.680 --> 1:00:22.840
<v Speaker 2>you put it onto the mode and have emotions, But

1:00:22.920 --> 1:00:25.160
<v Speaker 2>it also to serve so many other things that we

1:00:25.200 --> 1:00:26.360
<v Speaker 2>got to celebrate as well.

1:00:26.520 --> 1:00:29.840
<v Speaker 1>You know, how do you balance being a father and

1:00:29.880 --> 1:00:34.040
<v Speaker 1>being this have the have the residency here in Vegas.

1:00:34.560 --> 1:00:35.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you're going to go back to

1:00:35.880 --> 1:00:37.640
<v Speaker 1>tour again, because you got it pretty good right here.

1:00:37.680 --> 1:00:39.240
<v Speaker 6>You don't have to leave. You don't have to leave

1:00:39.720 --> 1:00:41.160
<v Speaker 6>at one stop shot.

1:00:41.280 --> 1:00:43.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, get once you get done, you go up

1:00:43.080 --> 1:00:47.040
<v Speaker 1>to your root where you gotta place now here in Henderson. Yeah,

1:00:47.040 --> 1:00:49.600
<v Speaker 1>And so now you don't have to worry about getting

1:00:49.640 --> 1:00:53.200
<v Speaker 1>on plane, getting on planes, trains, automobiles and going one

1:00:53.240 --> 1:00:55.120
<v Speaker 1>state to the next state, to the next city.

1:00:56.080 --> 1:00:57.920
<v Speaker 6>How how do you how do you balance that?

1:00:57.960 --> 1:01:00.640
<v Speaker 1>Because you said because your father will than around when

1:01:00.680 --> 1:01:03.600
<v Speaker 1>you were younger, that's very important to you that you

1:01:03.760 --> 1:01:07.160
<v Speaker 1>around for your kids now. But you also understand that

1:01:07.440 --> 1:01:09.760
<v Speaker 1>the way that it make a living is by doing this.

1:01:10.240 --> 1:01:11.360
<v Speaker 6>So how do you balance that?

1:01:11.880 --> 1:01:16.680
<v Speaker 2>Well, the balance is, you know, up until seven o'clock, fuddy,

1:01:18.280 --> 1:01:21.240
<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm focused on my kids, right, and then

1:01:21.280 --> 1:01:24.480
<v Speaker 2>at seven o'clock on the dot, you know, I'm working.

1:01:26.240 --> 1:01:31.880
<v Speaker 2>It's funny how that works, but you know, man, it's

1:01:31.880 --> 1:01:34.280
<v Speaker 2>a balance. Man, It's a balance in any field that

1:01:34.320 --> 1:01:36.320
<v Speaker 2>we are, right, especially if you got.

1:01:36.160 --> 1:01:39.080
<v Speaker 3>To travel with a team. I like to travel.

1:01:39.160 --> 1:01:42.160
<v Speaker 2>Actually, so I don't think that I'm done touring, right.

1:01:42.880 --> 1:01:45.240
<v Speaker 2>I do see it in the future, but maybe in

1:01:45.280 --> 1:01:47.200
<v Speaker 2>a different way. I just played Paris, you know what

1:01:47.240 --> 1:01:49.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying, and I had an eight day residency or

1:01:49.640 --> 1:01:53.680
<v Speaker 2>eight night residency in Paris. That was a major success

1:01:54.640 --> 1:01:57.360
<v Speaker 2>to be able to you know, find space to sit

1:01:57.400 --> 1:02:00.600
<v Speaker 2>down and really enjoy, you know, because that's the most

1:02:00.600 --> 1:02:03.360
<v Speaker 2>important part. Yes, like the greatest, the greatest thing that

1:02:03.400 --> 1:02:05.840
<v Speaker 2>we have is time. It's not money, it's the time

1:02:05.880 --> 1:02:08.400
<v Speaker 2>that you spend, right, and being able to spend that

1:02:08.480 --> 1:02:10.960
<v Speaker 2>time with my children and spend that time and really

1:02:11.040 --> 1:02:12.600
<v Speaker 2>enjoy the places that I go.

1:02:14.680 --> 1:02:15.640
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to lose that.

1:02:16.920 --> 1:02:21.280
<v Speaker 1>You part owner the Cavaliers and Lebron comes back and

1:02:21.320 --> 1:02:24.200
<v Speaker 1>wins a title. Yeah, what was that moment because you

1:02:24.240 --> 1:02:26.680
<v Speaker 1>were there? What was that moment like in Cleveland? And

1:02:26.680 --> 1:02:27.880
<v Speaker 1>what was that moment like for you?

1:02:28.720 --> 1:02:31.280
<v Speaker 2>Well, it all started right because I don't know if

1:02:31.280 --> 1:02:33.080
<v Speaker 2>I had as much to do with Cleveland as much

1:02:33.080 --> 1:02:37.080
<v Speaker 2>as it was a business opportunity for a minority minority

1:02:37.120 --> 1:02:40.959
<v Speaker 2>ownership and this team and Dan Gilbert gave me that opportunity,

1:02:42.200 --> 1:02:44.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, just as Lebron was making its way in

1:02:44.600 --> 1:02:45.600
<v Speaker 2>to the league.

1:02:45.720 --> 1:02:49.560
<v Speaker 3>So we all, you know, had heard and known about

1:02:49.640 --> 1:02:50.400
<v Speaker 3>him and his talent.

1:02:50.520 --> 1:02:52.680
<v Speaker 2>So I felt like the luckiest man in the world

1:02:52.680 --> 1:02:55.000
<v Speaker 2>to be a part of this incredible organization.

1:02:54.880 --> 1:02:56.760
<v Speaker 3>And what a story to be told, in a legacy

1:02:56.800 --> 1:02:57.600
<v Speaker 3>to be built.

1:02:58.040 --> 1:03:01.480
<v Speaker 2>I was just happy, obviously to have that be one

1:03:01.480 --> 1:03:06.200
<v Speaker 2>of the first major entrepreneurial you know kind of things

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<v Speaker 2>that that I had gone after and it had the

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<v Speaker 2>potential to be successful. Man, when he left, I think

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<v Speaker 2>it was hard for everybody in the world, specifically in Cleveland.

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<v Speaker 6>Right because he's a native son.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, But sometimes, man, sometimes you got to leave.

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<v Speaker 2>Sometimes you have to go away from home in order

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<v Speaker 2>to be truly valued and appreciated and maybe find yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean sometimes in the wilderness you'll find something valuable

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<v Speaker 2>and you come back and you can really enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 2>And what I've seen after that moment after he left

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<v Speaker 2>and came back, and then one in Cleveland, obviously, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just been a joyous moment for him.

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<v Speaker 1>So you look at that the opportunity, because you said

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<v Speaker 1>this was in two thousand and five. You become a

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<v Speaker 1>minority owner and you've done really good. You've you've invested

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<v Speaker 1>you've broaden your portfolio. Is there are there other opportunities?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you looking like an NFL team, an MLB team

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<v Speaker 1>or you just kind of like stick to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>what you know?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I mean always open, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm open to continue to expand I want to make

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<v Speaker 2>certain that it's authentic right and also to it makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to grow. I want to work in different areas.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to, you know, engineer and pioneer new things.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no reason for music to be the only thing

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<v Speaker 2>that you recognize me. For business is something that is

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<v Speaker 2>very important to me here in Las Vegas specifically, I've put.

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<v Speaker 3>My flag in the ground here. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>It started with a Vegas residency, has now grown to

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<v Speaker 2>a very successful festival by the name of Lovers and Friends,

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<v Speaker 2>and just received the key to the city. Now I'm

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<v Speaker 2>trying to see how many doors I can unlock it, right,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 6>Are you gonna get in the restaurant business?

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<v Speaker 3>Hey man?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that's tons of opportunity out here. If there's partners,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll let you boy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna get you out of here them this one.

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<v Speaker 1>I am bringing my daughter to tonight. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>would like, you know a song that's appropriate for someone

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<v Speaker 1>her age in the thirties. I'm not here, won't really

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<v Speaker 1>tell you exactly how old he is.

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<v Speaker 2>But she's not married, she's not mad. Okay, cool, I'm customering.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I'm customizing this moment.

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<v Speaker 3>Go ahead, yeah, Ussher.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate your time, man, congratulations and everything you've done.

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<v Speaker 1>Continue success, bro, and uh, I know you're gonna knock

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<v Speaker 1>it out the park with her.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, Bro, I appreciate you too, though. Ah, thank you man.

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<v Speaker 2>Keep it real.

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<v Speaker 3>Usher, Yes, sir, God bless you though.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, guys, you can see your boy address to impress.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in Las Vegas and I'm getting ready to take

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<v Speaker 1>my daughter for a birthday to the Usher concert. She's

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<v Speaker 1>super excited because the very first concert he ever attended

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<v Speaker 1>was Usher. So for her birthday, she was like, Daddy,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to go see Usher. So here we are,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go. Thing we do for our kids. Bro, wonder

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<v Speaker 1>what my my son gonna want for his birthday. Knowing him,

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<v Speaker 1>he gonna take the money. My other daughter, yea, knowing her,

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<v Speaker 1>she gonna take the money. Leave the one I'm with,

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<v Speaker 1>Dn't you got it.

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<v Speaker 6>You got it. I got bad baby, my nurse you know,

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<v Speaker 6>got nervous, your whatever, cal see sharp. You wanted to

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<v Speaker 6>kick it off. Yeah, you tell me that all the time,

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<v Speaker 6>aren't you. Actually? With your very first concert that you

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<v Speaker 6>ever saw, I was.

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<v Speaker 2>Twelve and this was during the Confession's era and Kanye

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<v Speaker 2>West opened up for tearing up.

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<v Speaker 6>It's a sad baby. So we're making the weekend of it.

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<v Speaker 1>So we got ushered tonight, we got a day tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 1>and then Thursday we got Lakers game.

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<v Speaker 6>They opened up against the Suns.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, yeah, yeah, talking to day, they're telling them money.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, thank you. I'm excited. I'm excited you yeah, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>M hmm.

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<v Speaker 4>All my life and grinning all my life, sacrifice, hustle,

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<v Speaker 4>play the price, Wanta Slice got to brow the dice.

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<v Speaker 4>Thats why all my life, I've been grinding all my life,

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<v Speaker 4>all my life and grinning all my life, sacrifice, ustle,

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<v Speaker 4>play the price, Wanta Slice got to brow the dice

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<v Speaker 4>way all my life, I've been grinding all my life.

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<v Speaker 5>M hm