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Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome to a vari's edition of Club Shay Shay.

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Speaker 1: I am your hole Shannon Sharp. I'm also the propriud

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Speaker 1: a whopper for you. He's an eight time Grammy Award

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Speaker 1: winning pop icon, a multi gold, platinum, and diamond selling artist.

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Speaker 1: He received the last certified Diamond by a black artist.

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Speaker 1: He a generation defining megastar, singer, songwriter, producer, actor, dancer,

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Speaker 1: all around entertainer. One of the most influential voices and

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Speaker 1: pop and RB artists of the twentieth century and early

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Speaker 1: twenty first century. He's been active in the game for

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Speaker 1: three decades. An NBA championship owner of the Cleveland Cavaliers.

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Speaker 1: And please, whatever you do, do not leave your girl

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Speaker 1: or your wife around this man. He's an international sex symbol,

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Speaker 1: a successor to Michael Jackson, the.

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Speaker 6: King, the King of R and B, mister usher Shaw.

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Speaker 6: I'll do it.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's go ahead. You got your own, you got

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Speaker 1: your ranby, I got my shape.

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Speaker 2: Listen, by the way, only in the best, you know

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying, we bring out the best. You know China,

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Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying now. But you got it

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Speaker 2: in the brock of rock glass here in Las Vegas.

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Speaker 2: Enjoy it, man, I'll figured I come having a drink

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Speaker 2: with you.

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Speaker 1: And you get to say, who was sitting down having

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Speaker 1: How you doing.

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Speaker 3: I've been good, bro.

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Speaker 2: You know, we've been out here man and Vegas. Man,

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Speaker 6: Man. The super Bowl?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, was that always in the back of your mind?

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Speaker 2: Well, exactly that right for your entire life, I guess

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Speaker 3: Probably too early for me. Man.

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Speaker 6: The greatest record executive regardless of color.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 3: But it turned into something far, far more than that.

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Speaker 1: Man, you know, right, we're here at the No Man

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Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I just know that this juncture

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Charlemagne a god named me like the

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Speaker 6: Right what you said you can feel the energy.

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Speaker 2: Nah, they're actually cool. The guy I said, are there?

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Speaker 3: I don't even felt I don't feel like it's been.

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Speaker 6: Know that woman had just had a baby and she would.

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Speaker 1: Oh you you aren't bringing them into a good time?

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Speaker 6: You taking that lift up. You caught your fout with them.

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Speaker 2: But you know, I just think that that generation of entertainment,

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Speaker 2: Man? I deal with the same you know, issues that

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Speaker 2: because I know what work it takes to be great

438
00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,600
Speaker 2: and for parents who do that. You know, look at

439
00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,520
Speaker 2: the evidence, look at the incredible you know, artists, the

440
00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:35,800
Speaker 2: incredible athletes that were creating in that moment. This generation

441
00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:39,280
Speaker 2: may not necessarily have the same respect. But God bless

442
00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,199
Speaker 2: the coaches that we have. God bless the mentors and

443
00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,840
Speaker 2: stuff that we have that motivate our kids, because it

444
00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:50,320
Speaker 2: almost puts this pressure on parents to not be parents. Now,

445
00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,960
Speaker 2: that's it's a hard dynamic, especially if you come from

446
00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,119
Speaker 2: an industry where you know what it takes to not

447
00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,280
Speaker 2: naturally kick into that mode and say, oh, if you

448
00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:00,840
Speaker 2: want to do something, you want to play basketball, you got.

449
00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:02,600
Speaker 3: To run at a certain rate. I'm gonna push you.

450
00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:04,760
Speaker 2: If you really want to do this, you gotta show

451
00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:06,000
Speaker 2: me you're gonna show up on time.

452
00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,040
Speaker 3: You ain't on time. Give me push ups right now?

453
00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,440
Speaker 2: What, Yeah, gimme push ups, Run these laps, run these

454
00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:12,879
Speaker 2: suicides right now? You serious?

455
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:13,120
Speaker 3: Dad?

456
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:13,440
Speaker 2: Yeah?

457
00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:14,639
Speaker 3: For real? And I'm not playing.

458
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:16,840
Speaker 2: And if I catch you, if I get if I

459
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:18,399
Speaker 2: get there before you do, you're gonna give me one

460
00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:20,080
Speaker 2: hundred extra push ups.

461
00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:20,680
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

462
00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,919
Speaker 2: That's just that's just the nature of the you know,

463
00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:26,159
Speaker 2: the animal that is inside of who we are as

464
00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:30,720
Speaker 2: as I don't know man, as as entertainers.

465
00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:30,920
Speaker 3: As athletes.

466
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Speaker 6: You know.

467
00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:31,520
Speaker 3: So I don't.

468
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Speaker 2: I don't. I don't look at any of that kind

469
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,360
Speaker 2: of disciplinary kind of measure as bad. I do think

470
00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:40,000
Speaker 2: it's equally important to talk to your kids. Okay, if

471
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,000
Speaker 2: you're gonna push them that way, then you gotta love

472
00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:42,840
Speaker 2: on them just as much.

473
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:44,439
Speaker 6: You gotta explain to them why you push it.

474
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:46,920
Speaker 2: There, you go, that's right. They got to know that. Yo,

475
00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,000
Speaker 2: my dad's gonna push me to be great. My dad's

476
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 2: gonna talk to me as well and help me understand

477
00:21:51,359 --> 00:21:53,239
Speaker 2: why he's pushing me the way that he is.

478
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:54,200
Speaker 6: But how is that?

479
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,359
Speaker 1: Because you have to understand you're in a totally different

480
00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 1: situation than what they are.

481
00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,679
Speaker 6: Your mom didn't have it like your key is. Dad

482
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:01,440
Speaker 6: has it right.

483
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 1: So they're looking because you, like, man, I got to

484
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:05,680
Speaker 1: get my I got to get my mom out of

485
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,360
Speaker 1: this situation I want to have when your kids come home.

486
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,600
Speaker 1: They got a six car garage, they got twenty five

487
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,440
Speaker 1: thousand square feet, they got many, they got made, they

488
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,120
Speaker 1: got shelf, they got they got all.

489
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 3: Man.

490
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is that is a harsh reality, which is

491
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:22,280
Speaker 2: more of the reason why you got to be harder

492
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:27,920
Speaker 2: on them, but mindful that their normal is different than

493
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,879
Speaker 2: our normal, right, and the access that they have is

494
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:35,200
Speaker 2: greater and grander, and the expectation is actually higher. That's

495
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 2: the one thing that I have empathy for my children,

496
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,160
Speaker 2: especially the ones you know that you know, I name

497
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,560
Speaker 2: my son Usher, So every time he's out, obviously there's

498
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:48,719
Speaker 2: that pressure. You know, I've even battled at times, you know,

499
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:50,879
Speaker 2: my kids sometimes they don't want me to come. They

500
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,720
Speaker 2: don't want me to be at the you know, their

501
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 2: basketball game or they recital, or they want to be

502
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:57,840
Speaker 2: very very low key because they don't want that energy.

503
00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,240
Speaker 2: They don't want our dad walks in the room and

504
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 2: took you know.

505
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,399
Speaker 6: All their focus off of me.

506
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's hard because I tried my heartest to

507
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,399
Speaker 2: have that empathy. But I want to be there. You

508
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying countless times being able to just

509
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 2: sit at the back of the room quiet. You know

510
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 2: what I'm saying is keep myself as small as possible

511
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:17,920
Speaker 2: and be as quiet as I possibly can.

512
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 3: I want to be a parent, yeah, man, Yeah, but

513
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 3: it is if.

514
00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 2: You're right, like that access and that reality that they're

515
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 2: looking at, it gives them some expectation, and unfortunately I

516
00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 2: can't take it back.

517
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

518
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 2: Like I walked so that we could ride, you know

519
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,399
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, And now that you're riding, you know,

520
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 2: I want you to understand the importance of walking.

521
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 1: Did you always at the age of ten, eleven and

522
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:45,919
Speaker 1: twelve you're on star search, did you always know you

523
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 1: wanted to be this?

524
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:49,679
Speaker 2: Well?

525
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 3: Which part of this do you mean?

526
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 6: Right?

527
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:55,120
Speaker 1: Because the guy that's sitting across from me, that's internationally

528
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,400
Speaker 1: known that goals and sells out every concert, the guy

529
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Speaker 1: that's almost at one hundred shows at a residency God,

530
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 1: that's doing the halftime show, one of the king of R.

531
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:11,159
Speaker 3: And B this, Thank you very much. But let me

532
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 3: give you a little clarity, right, Okay, No, I don't know.

533
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,679
Speaker 7: If I I don't know if I was prepared for

534
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,199
Speaker 7: any of it, but I know that I was dedicated

535
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:24,680
Speaker 7: enough to stick to it until something happened, and then

536
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,399
Speaker 7: something that I didn't expect happen.

537
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 2: To become a businessman, to then understand entrepreneurship, to understand philanthropy,

538
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:37,280
Speaker 2: to understand empathy, to begin to understand the other.

539
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,080
Speaker 3: Side of it, I wouldn't prepare for that.

540
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 2: I knew that if I set my mind to anything,

541
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 2: the affirmation of me once saying it and actually making

542
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 2: it happen it willing it to happen was something that

543
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,840
Speaker 2: I was committed to as a kid. Yo, I walked

544
00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:56,680
Speaker 2: around and my mother used to tell me all the time,

545
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,120
Speaker 2: you need to stop telling people that you're going.

546
00:24:58,080 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 3: To be a big artist.

547
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 2: I'm like, why, that's what I believe, is what I

548
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 2: think about myself. If I don't believe it, nobody else would.

549
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 2: But you don't have to say it. It ain't happen yet.

550
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 2: I'm like, but I wanted to, so let me just

551
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 2: I must keep saying it until it actually, you know,

552
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 2: becomes the reality. And I'm gonna not only just say

553
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,640
Speaker 2: it and expect somebody to give it to me. I'm

554
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,360
Speaker 2: gonna take the long way around. I want to work

555
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 2: for it. I want to be able to say I

556
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 2: earned it, you know what I'm saying.

557
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 1: I remember the first time that I saw you, and

558
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 1: I didn't quite know who you were. I saw you

559
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,360
Speaker 1: in Nike Town and Phillips Plaza. Man, I just see

560
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 1: you in Guccia all the time, and you always sing

561
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:34,120
Speaker 1: I was like, man, why do this dude sing it?

562
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:38,600
Speaker 6: Man? I like he's like, he's like and you was

563
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 6: just singing and singing and singing. And I was told

564
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 6: my sister, I said, man, I saw this, this.

565
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 1: This a I mean, you couldn't been no more than

566
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 1: like sixteen or seventeen.

567
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:47,680
Speaker 6: I said, I saw this. I saw this kid in

568
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,880
Speaker 6: niked Town and he was singing. I think I think

569
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:51,920
Speaker 6: he might be something.

570
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't know if I was auditioning

571
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,919
Speaker 2: or what I said. I was preparing for my moment,

572
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And I think that that's

573
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:03,959
Speaker 2: that's the plight, you know what I'm saying. To anything

574
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 2: that you want to be great at, you have to

575
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,440
Speaker 2: make it a you have to make it a process.

576
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 2: Like it's a part of your every thought. Like if

577
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 2: you want to play basketball, you always bounce on the ball.

578
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 2: You want to play football, you always readjusting, you always managing,

579
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 2: you always ready and alert.

580
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:20,919
Speaker 3: You know, if you want to play sports, it's like

581
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 3: you have to stay activated and stay active. As an artist,

582
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 3: it's the same. And you know, I'm also too.

583
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 2: Haunted by the idea that I had this talent, so

584
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 2: it's naturally just coming out.

585
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 3: It's like, you can't help but just be who you are.

586
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 1: You had this talent obviously in high school. Normally when

587
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,639
Speaker 1: you have a talent, everybody's not as talent as as

588
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 1: everyone else.

589
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 6: So were they're hating going on it with you in

590
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 6: high school.

591
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 1: The people hate that you were so gifted because you're

592
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 1: in a talent show.

593
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 6: You win it. You know that you're not losing a

594
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 6: talent show.

595
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: No, So they're like it's like, okay, okay, you won

596
00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 1: the last five talent shows.

597
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 6: You're not in this one.

598
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:01,119
Speaker 3: No.

599
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,439
Speaker 2: But that's what makes you great, right, the fact that

600
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 2: you know that there's opposition. You know, if you're playing

601
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 2: on the football team, right, you're gonna go out there,

602
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 2: you see that, you.

603
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 3: Go up against some dogs. You know what I'm saying.

604
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 2: You gotta go out there with a different attitude. You

605
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 2: gotta like believe it, you gotta like be it.

606
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 3: You know.

607
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:19,719
Speaker 2: And by the way, I had a hard high trip, bro.

608
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,359
Speaker 2: My name was Usher, Like yeah, like I don't I

609
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 2: don't have like Marcus or like Eddie or something like that.

610
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 2: Like I was already like an outlier, you know what

611
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like, wait a minute, you're walking around with

612
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,560
Speaker 2: this name, and they weren't nice to me.

613
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Rshell, what's Arsha? You know

614
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 3: you want arshboard? You know what I'm saying.

615
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 2: Hershey Bard.

616
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 3: I was like, man, come on, man, all right, that's cool.

617
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 6: So so what was dating like for Usher? In high school?

618
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:47,439
Speaker 2: Dating?

619
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 3: It was a bit difficult, you know what I'm saying,

620
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 3: because I.

621
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 6: Just you can say, you can swound them.

622
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, but you know, I was just trying

623
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 2: my hardest to stay focused on my actual go and

624
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I was you know, I was

625
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 2: just trying to figure out how to get to the

626
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 2: real goal, you know, to have a girlfriend. That was cool,

627
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:11,719
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like I would definitely impress

628
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 2: the girls and.

629
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 6: See I do I do, go get it out you

630
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 6: I do? I get it out of chorus.

631
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. But you know, I just

632
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,360
Speaker 2: you know, it was it wasn't about that, man.

633
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:21,120
Speaker 3: I was focused.

634
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 6: Bro.

635
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 2: I was like, I need to I need to stay

636
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 2: focused and I have a goal, you know what I'm saying.

637
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 2: When I figured out this is really what I want

638
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,119
Speaker 2: to do, I think I was willing to make the

639
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 2: sacrifices that would needed. And while I wanted to enjoy,

640
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 2: you know, having relationships. It was like, if I find

641
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 2: a girl that I think is really cool and I

642
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 2: can learn something from her, she can learn something from me,

643
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 2: then we can help each other.

644
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 3: But for the most part, I ain't. Yeah, man, I ain't.

645
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 3: Yeah we can help each other out, Yeah, yeah, I don't.

646
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 2: I don't think it was a phase while I was

647
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 2: girl crazy, you know what I'm saying. But yeah, man,

648
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 2: I just I was trying to figure out how to

649
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 2: get as many numbers as I possibly could because I

650
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 2: wanted to be a player, you know what I'm saying.

651
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 2: From the Himalaya, You know what I'm saying. But you

652
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 2: know I was, I was. I wasn't really focused on

653
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:12,760
Speaker 2: you know that too much?

654
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: How did you deal with your voice at ten is

655
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: not the same as the voice at fourteen, and the

656
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: voice at fourteen is not the same as the voice

657
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 1: your mature voice is gonna be. So how did you

658
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 1: handle the voice change going through pubid.

659
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 3: It's crazy, you know.

660
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 2: I just had to figure out how to focus on

661
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,719
Speaker 2: something else until it changed back and just keep working.

662
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 2: I changed my eating habits, you know what, I'm saying,

663
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 2: in addition to losing my voice, I had pizza face.

664
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

665
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 2: Y'all know my teenagers, you yeah, you go through a

666
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 2: phase where it's just like NESTLEI craped, you know what

667
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 2: I'm saying.

668
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 3: And I was like, man, I gotta figure this out,

669
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 3: you know.

670
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 2: But I didn't let it hit it that determin me

671
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 2: from like oh yo' I still got to stay focused

672
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 2: on what I want to do.

673
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I lost my voice completely. It was hard. So

674
00:29:58,400 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 3: I didn't lose my.

675
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 2: Voice and didn't have anything right. I lost my voice

676
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 2: and I actually had a record that was on the radio.

677
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,840
Speaker 2: I had a record that I put out just call

678
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 2: Me a Mac, and I couldn't sing it here I

679
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 2: am at you know.

680
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 3: I think it was Jack the Rapper in Atlanta. Can

681
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 3: I be down here?

682
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 2: Remember? Which was one of those two. And I sang

683
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 2: my song and I got through it. That was the

684
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 2: first and the last time that I actually sang and

685
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 2: I impressed an audience of people, some of whom still

686
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 2: come up to this day, Like ya, I remember you

687
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 2: in this yellow something. You was like a little kid

688
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 2: man and you really just had this this real big

689
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 2: energy and then after that I lost it and trying

690
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 2: my hardest to not lose my mind in that and

691
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 2: become like depressed, like fall into a deep depression.

692
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:44,880
Speaker 3: It took a great deal of support.

693
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 2: It took my mama, It took my grandmother to my nanny,

694
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 2: It took my family members who you know, just continue

695
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 2: to you know, encourage me, and I managed to make

696
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 2: it through it. The people who managed to stick around,

697
00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 2: you know, the people that I was working with at

698
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 2: the time, Lady by the name of Shirley Riley, you know,

699
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:08,360
Speaker 2: an amazing coach as well, you know, but you know,

700
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 2: working with Kawan Prayer, who was the person who I

701
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 2: worked with at the time, Shanty Doss. You know, these

702
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 2: people who you know, were kind of appointed for me

703
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,479
Speaker 2: to work with. They didn't give up on me. They

704
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 2: continued to see something bright in me, La Reid. They

705
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 2: continued to invest in me working with you know, vocal

706
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 2: coaches and continue to help me find my way. Sent

707
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 2: me to New York City to work with Puffy. It

708
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 2: was just like, Okay, we're not giving up. We still

709
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 2: believe in it.

710
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: How difficult is it as a child to find topics

711
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 1: to sing about because you like thirteen fourteen. You can't

712
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: be singing about this mature stuff. Man, You're not a

713
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: gangster rapper. You ain't shooting up the club and talking

714
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: about this, this being this guarden tool and all that.

715
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 3: So was it difficult this garden tool?

716
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 6: Was it difficult for you to fuy material? Come? Was

717
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 6: it difficult for you to file material to sing sing about? Yeah?

718
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 3: It was like uh, pips and guard tools.

719
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 2: Man, I didn't.

720
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 3: Have to worry about that as much.

721
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 2: I think they.

722
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 3: Spent time with me. That was funny.

723
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 2: Eddie Bishop and uh Tim Thomas, the first two producers

724
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 2: that I work where he just posted something and uh,

725
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 2: I look back and it's like, man, I just so

726
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 2: great that you on the road to riches you stop

727
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 2: and take pictures because it actually just takes you back

728
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,239
Speaker 2: to that moment I almost forgot about, you know, just

729
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 2: the hope in my eyes and the fact that I

730
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 2: was just a little kid, right But here they are

731
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 2: trying to make songs for me about being a mac.

732
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 2: I don't even know what a mac is. You know

733
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, mac truck, a big mac like nah.

734
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 2: But you know again, you know, I just I think

735
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 2: I left it to them to help, you know, help

736
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 2: me figure out how to talk, because I could have

737
00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 2: easily right became you know, one of the sensations that

738
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 2: would have been locked into being a kid. Only had

739
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 2: made kid music specifically for kids. But I think that

740
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 2: they were trying to make music that adults would listen

741
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 2: to as well. That was a real smart thing for

742
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 2: them to do, and really it was. It was great

743
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 2: to think ahead because it made it easier for me

744
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 2: to transition when I worked with you know, Organized Noise,

745
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 2: when I work with Puff, when I worked.

746
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 3: With you know, those those guys.

747
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 2: They were trying to tell the coolest young guy's story,

748
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 2: the guy who you know was kind of having emotions

749
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 2: but still trying to be a young fly player.

750
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

751
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 2: You know, like, yo, I got a little movement here,

752
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. I talked to women a

753
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 2: certain way. They were giving me like yo, you gotta

754
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 2: talk to a girl like this, you know what I mean?

755
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 3: And you know we.

756
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 2: Would do intros like you talk overt R and B

757
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 2: records just how you got to talk to him bruh,

758
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 2: you know. But great that I was able to have

759
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 2: more mature conversation because I didn't get caught in the

760
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 2: kid thing. I wasn't like a kid teen type sensation.

761
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 3: You know.

762
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 2: I was out there trying to figure out to take

763
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 2: my shirt off and show my.

764
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 6: Six pack package.

765
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

766
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: You mentioned La Reid sent you to New York and

767
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:09,320
Speaker 1: you live with he did it.

768
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 6: They called it flavor Camp.

769
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,399
Speaker 1: Flavor Camp, So what was that experience like and how

770
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: did that help Ush's career?

771
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 3: I think?

772
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 2: But I think I don't think I would be the

773
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 2: artist that I am today without.

774
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 3: The experiences that I had in New York City.

775
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 2: One, just being in a new place where I would

776
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 2: have to adjust, right, I didn't have the comfort of home.

777
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 2: I'm in New York City and they was you know,

778
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 2: done and sonning me to death, bro. And I was like,

779
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 2: shout it, I don't know what you talking about. You

780
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, We Finnah, go over hell, you

781
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. And they was like laughing at

782
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 2: me because I was Southern and they were like New York.

783
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 2: But they like took me and they like they took

784
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 2: me under their wing, you know what I'm saying, And

785
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 2: looked at me like the little bro, you know, I

786
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 2: think back to, you know, the earlier times of being

787
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 2: there when Bad Boy was formed. You know, I learned

788
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 2: something about business, I learned something about artist development in

789
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 2: a different well, I learned something about culture. So having

790
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 2: the ability to be around all these different cultures of people,

791
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 2: it just helped me understand the world that I lived in.

792
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 3: I didn't.

793
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 2: I wasn't isolated and felt like I needed to be protected.

794
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 2: I wasn't. I was like, Yo, We're gonna show you

795
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 2: the real ropes to show you what the world really

796
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,959
Speaker 2: looks like and give you a front seat. I'm looking

797
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,839
Speaker 2: at Biggie, you know what I'm saying. I'm looking at

798
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 2: Craig Mac. I'm looking at Onyx. Were running in the streets,

799
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 2: we like literally out here seeing how we in barbershop?

800
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 2: They shooting nice? You know what I'm saying.

801
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 3: You know, bet, I don't full four fol You know

802
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. Four five? You know what I'm like, Yo,

803
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 3: what is this? You know what I'm saying.

804
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 2: But so great to have had those experiences, because one

805
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 2: I didn't have a big brother and.

806
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 3: My dad wasn't there in my life as a kid.

807
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 2: So all these experiences just readied me for life so

808
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,320
Speaker 2: greater than just being an artist.

809
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 3: That man helped me understand life.

810
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 2: He helped me understand what it was to be an artist,

811
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,280
Speaker 2: helped me understand what it was to be passionate about something.

812
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 3: He helped me understand.

813
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 2: He helped me understand business at a different level because

814
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 2: I'm seeing him go from his independence to then becoming

815
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 2: puff Daddy, you know what I'm saying.

816
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 3: And I got a front row seat looking at that.

817
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 2: Thank God that I.

818
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 3: Had that experience, you know what I'm saying.

819
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,760
Speaker 2: Then you and by the way, at New York's Hottest moment.

820
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, This is Terror Squad and

821
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 2: Fat Joe. I'm like, how do I know all this stuff?

822
00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like, I'm literally I can

823
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 2: remember being on stage. I can't curse on this, but

824
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 2: I was like, one of the craziest experiences ever. I

825
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,960
Speaker 2: happen to be on stage performing with Biggie And this

826
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 2: is back when he had a song called Partying Bull Dung.

827
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 3: Cal Dong. You know what I'm saying. I was like, Yo,

828
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 3: this is crazy.

829
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 2: But I was able to take all of that and

830
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 2: then begin to understand, Oh okay, I get it. I

831
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 2: see where the world is, but now I want to do.

832
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 6: This my way.

833
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, Atlanta, Jermaine Dupree, you link up with JDL And.

834
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 6: What makes JD so good at a job?

835
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 2: You know?

836
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 3: Creative?

837
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 2: He's extremely creative and he's mindful of the artist that

838
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 2: he's working. When he spends the time that is necessary

839
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 2: to understand how to tell the artist story, he spends

840
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 2: the time making certain that he understands the cadus as

841
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 2: he writes. He's one of the world's greatest writers. I mean,

842
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 2: you don't get no better, bruh, like somebody who has

843
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 2: like multiple skills as a writer, as an artist, as

844
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 2: a creative. Rather it's fashion, rather, it's lifestyle, cool, incredibly

845
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 2: emotional when it comes to knowing how to pin it

846
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:51,760
Speaker 2: because he listens. He listens to every word. He manages

847
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 2: to get out of the way too. That's another thing.

848
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 2: It's it's about him because it's about his interpretation and

849
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 2: the interpreter always wins. But his ability to not make

850
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 2: it about just him, he makes it about his artists.

851
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 2: He's able to then say, all right, I'm gonna breathe

852
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 2: life into this artist who's trying to find that way. Now,

853
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 2: what you do with it rather you dance, you rap,

854
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:14,720
Speaker 2: or you go into movies and you do other things.

855
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:15,959
Speaker 3: That's how you keep going.

856
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 2: But he really does understand the art of artistry, the

857
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 2: art of being able to see the greatest things and

858
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 2: pull the best things out.

859
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 1: Confessions, Yeah, everybody thought Confessionals was about you, like you

860
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: was just confassion. You went to a confessional, but it

861
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:33,720
Speaker 1: was about yeah, well no, it's about you.

862
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 2: Nah, it was about a It was a collect by

863
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 2: the way, we made an album and we as men

864
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 2: sat around like this. We were having real conversations, real talk.

865
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,719
Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, Mark.

866
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 3: Pitts, you know, you know myself, JD. There's a couple

867
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 3: of casts.

868
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 2: In the room that was going through this situation. I

869
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 2: ain't trying to put nobody on blast, but I'm just

870
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 2: saying we all were having a conversation about this thing

871
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 2: that was happening, and it ain't the first time that

872
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 2: it happened. But here's an opportunity for me to be

873
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 2: able to tell that story in a way where everybody

874
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 2: could relate to it. It wasn't just me I'm at JD.

875
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,440
Speaker 2: It was it was everybody.

876
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,840
Speaker 6: Everybody at that table was going through something.

877
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 2: Yo, bid I'll tell you no lies. Everybody was going

878
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 2: through some portion of what we were talking about in that studio.

879
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: It's Confession is the album that Usher is a bona

880
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 1: fide superstar. He's here to state he ain't no flash

881
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: in the pan. You're not here today going tomorrow. Usher

882
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:32,439
Speaker 1: Raymond is here and you will forever remember this man's name.

883
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:38,560
Speaker 3: You gotta tell me, bro, Yeah you think so. I

884
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 3: think that's your greatest that's the greatest.

885
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 2: Uh body of work?

886
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 3: Eighty seven O one?

887
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: I don't know, okay, se see where you put it

888
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: like that? Eighty seven O one.

889
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. So it's like, it's great that

890
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 2: I could even he.

891
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,319
Speaker 1: If you could sing one album, if you only had

892
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: to sing one album and you could couldn't say you

893
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 1: got you got a lot of but you got to

894
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 1: saying one for the next year and only one what

895
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: you're rocking with, Man, that's a horror. Bro.

896
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a rock with Confessions. I'm right, it's well rounded.

897
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 2: But I mean just saying this, like between those two albums, yes,

898
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 2: I think that it would. It would definitely have to

899
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 2: be based off of success.

900
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 3: It would have to be confessions.

901
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:30,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean when you look at it, I mean diamond, crazy, sexy, cool,

902
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 1: Whitney here, Whitney Houston, thriller, bro.

903
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 6: You get the diamond. Ain't a whole lot of diamonds

904
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 6: out there.

905
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 3: There has been no other diamond since in this yard.

906
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 6: That makes you feel good.

907
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 3: It's a good thing to have, you know what I'm saying.

908
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 3: But also too, it's a.

909
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 2: It's a bit of a thing, right because you're then

910
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 2: aiming at that. And I never wanted to get caught

911
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 2: up in what I've done in the past so much

912
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,239
Speaker 2: that I can't focus on where I am because the

913
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 2: success has changed. Right If we, you know, could count

914
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 2: success by how many albums you actually sold, they don't

915
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 2: sell albums in that way as a physical copy. When

916
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 2: we get on a line, we stand outside of Tower Records.

917
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 2: You know you did it right. I did it too,

918
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,280
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And we got that album.

919
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 2: We weren't like quick ordering that joint or either just

920
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:23,399
Speaker 2: clicking out a button and it's just there. So yeah,

921
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:26,760
Speaker 2: it's like the measure of success has to change in life.

922
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 3: And by the way, this is important.

923
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 2: Because if you don't do that, you managed to get

924
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 2: caught in your mind and the psychological like damage that

925
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 2: could happen if you don't reach the same goal makes

926
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 2: you feel as though you're not a success.

927
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:45,120
Speaker 3: That's not true. There's just always a different ship. Yo.

928
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,799
Speaker 2: I remember when you know what I'm saying, Vince Carter

929
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,760
Speaker 2: was jumping out the gym, bro Like Yo, he shifted

930
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 2: his whole game and three Crazy still can jump if

931
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 2: he wanted to.

932
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 3: But the Mankels, you know what I'm saying, They going,

933
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. It's about. Yeah, those are the

934
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 3: people that I look up to.

935
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:03,399
Speaker 2: Bro.

936
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:06,399
Speaker 1: You said something very interesting because a lot and I've

937
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 1: heard people say this about Michael is that he kept

938
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: trying to replicate the success that they had with Thriller and.

939
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 6: Dirty Diana was a great album.

940
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: It's sold eight million copies and subsequent albums that came

941
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 1: out after that, but it wasn't Thriller, and it drove

942
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,720
Speaker 1: him to a point that if it didn't do thirty million,

943
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: forty million, sixty million copies, he didn't feel like it

944
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,760
Speaker 1: was successful. You said, I got in my mind early

945
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 1: on that if I don't do the physical number that

946
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: Confessions did, I'm okay with that.

947
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 3: How were you.

948
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:36,240
Speaker 6: Able to do that? Usher?

949
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: Because we're measured by success, because we're only people judge

950
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: you by what you did as a younger you. They

951
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,760
Speaker 1: don't compare you to anybody else that's in your genre currently.

952
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 1: They compare you to a younger you.

953
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 3: Well, they shouldn't.

954
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: Talk about how do I get it out of y'all?

955
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,399
Speaker 1: See what he said, y'all be the leader a battle

956
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: all y'all keep talking about yall a keiga.

957
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 6: This is a key of that. I was sitting with

958
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 6: the kid right here.

959
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 2: You know, I'll just tell you two things on King

960
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 2: talk right, but the confessions right again.

961
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,280
Speaker 3: If you are.

962
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 2: Living by the applause, you will die by the bulls TI.

963
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 2: I told me that, and it's spot on. If you

964
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 2: live for the applause, you're gonna die by the bulls.

965
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 2: You gotta do what you gotta do, and you gotta

966
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 2: make your offering as clear as it could potentially be

967
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 2: because it's gonna serve at least one person, because that's

968
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:39,760
Speaker 2: why we really do it right. We do it because

969
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 2: we want to offer something that's gonna be the right

970
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 2: dialogue or the right help or the right moment or

971
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 2: the right service to whatever needed to happen in that moment,

972
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 2: the celebration of love making, the baby making, the ability

973
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 2: to be emotional and finally be able to say what

974
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 2: you really mean to this person, you know, be true

975
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 2: to that. If you start to chase the success in

976
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 2: that same way, it'll it could.

977
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 3: Drive you crazy.

978
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 2: The only way that I was able to do that

979
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 2: is to focus on other things, to focus on building

980
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 2: lontitude lonchitude latitude, Right, I gotta build more space. Let's

981
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 2: take this thing that I got, my perspective, and I

982
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 2: want to introduce some other artists.

983
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 3: I want to try and go.

984
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 2: Let me go fail at some other things and get

985
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 2: great at that. Right, because you peak in some way

986
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 2: in some ways and then you figure out something else

987
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 2: to work on, and then you peak at that and

988
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 2: you figure out something else you peak at that.

989
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,320
Speaker 1: But how you able to have such success in willing

990
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: to go try something that you might fail at. I mean,

991
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: once you become successful, you like, I kind of like this,

992
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 1: I ain't really trying to.

993
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:42,919
Speaker 6: Fail, so I kind of want to stay.

994
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 1: I want to come and stay where I'm at, But

995
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: you're willing to go outside, and it's like, okay, let

996
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: me try to be a producer, let me try to

997
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 1: discover talent.

998
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean part of it, as to honestly,

999
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 2: became a bit of a reckless sting for me because

1000
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 2: I think some of the actions that i'd taken, some

1001
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 2: of the decisions that I made, began to sabotage me.

1002
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 2: And it may have been personal sabotage because I just

1003
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 2: wanted some idea of normalcy. I wanted to be able

1004
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 2: to get back to normal. I wanted to be able

1005
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 2: to have like a little bit. I didn't look at

1006
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,359
Speaker 2: it the same way like, yo, I gotta go like

1007
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:21,160
Speaker 2: we just were now, you know, we're getting ready to

1008
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 2: take off. Now, I want to go to the moon.

1009
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:23,919
Speaker 2: Get to the moon. I want to go to the sun.

1010
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1011
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 2: Nah, I think that in some way I started to

1012
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,439
Speaker 2: figure like I need to move things around and maybe

1013
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 2: move things, and some steps didn't help me.

1014
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 3: Some things that I did were not right, some decisions I.

1015
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 2: Made, you know, hey, but I lived with them all too,

1016
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:45,839
Speaker 2: by the way, and I'm okay with that.

1017
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 3: That's the only way that I was able to get

1018
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 3: through it.

1019
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 2: I actually enjoy being in a position where I'm a

1020
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:53,879
Speaker 2: bit of an underdog and I gotta fight my way

1021
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 2: back up to the top. I love for you to say,

1022
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 2: oh it's over. I love you to say, oh, now

1023
00:45:58,160 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 2: he ain't gonna do it again.

1024
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 3: Oh no, I can't happened. You know that? Right there

1025
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 3: is motivation.

1026
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 2: Because that means I got someplace to go, I got

1027
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 2: some pace to grow.

1028
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,240
Speaker 1: I mean, you were the first artist in the twenty

1029
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 1: ten to collect three number one singles in three consecutive decades.

1030
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 1: The nineties, Nice and slow you make me want to yep,

1031
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 1: you make me want to lead a one my way,

1032
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 1: And then in two thousands you remind me you got

1033
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 1: it bad. You don't have to call it yeah, burn

1034
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: Confessional part too. And then twenty ten, omg, there goes

1035
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 1: my baby climax.

1036
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 6: D hits.

1037
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 3: I mean you got hits, Yes, got some hits.

1038
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 6: Brou I mean you were landing more puces than Mayweather.

1039
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah?

1040
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 1: Have you When will you sit? When will you go

1041
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 1: back and sit back? I mean, or do you take

1042
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 1: the time.

1043
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 3: Like this is it? That's what's happening right now.

1044
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 2: I'm actually sitting back and enjoying all of the labor

1045
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 2: of that.

1046
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 3: That's the moment I'm in right now.

1047
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 6: I'm in.

1048
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 2: I'm in that moment of really enjoying the hard work.

1049
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 3: Now I don't get a lot of sleep, but.

1050
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 2: I think that that's just the reality of who I

1051
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:00,040
Speaker 2: am as a person, because I love the work and

1052
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 2: I love I love to create.

1053
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 3: But I'm enjoying it.

1054
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 2: Finally, I'm able to, you know, because I've always been

1055
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 2: of service to people. Rather I'm offering something and raether

1056
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 2: they like it or not as really up to them,

1057
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 2: not up to me.

1058
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 3: But I like that that actually makes me feel good.

1059
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 2: But now I get a chance to actually enjoy what

1060
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,840
Speaker 2: I am creating, enjoy what I have created.

1061
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:28,000
Speaker 6: What's your favorite decade meanties?

1062
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 2: I think somewhere in the seventies, like being motivated by

1063
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 2: that and bringing that forward because so many incredible artists

1064
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 2: were born in that time or created in that moment.

1065
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 2: Living in the nineties, I say it was a grand

1066
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 2: moment for all of us because it was a mixture

1067
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 2: between R and B and hip hop and a way

1068
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,839
Speaker 2: that felt, you know, it felt sensational by the way,

1069
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 2: even in the South, because the South it didn't have

1070
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 2: as much of a definition. But through the nineties and

1071
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 2: then onto the two thousands, you then begin to understand,

1072
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 2: you know, organized noise, Jermaine Duprie, Little John, incredible producers,

1073
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 2: out of the out of the out of the South,

1074
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 2: you know, begin to really really have a moment. But

1075
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 2: I really do think that it's something in the seventies.

1076
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 2: Bro like the artist that came out of the seventies.

1077
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,879
Speaker 1: If you could, if you could have left, I'm gonna

1078
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 1: give you three. If you can perform with three, collab

1079
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 1: with three artists from the seventies, who would it.

1080
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 2: Be if I could have collabed with them in the seventies,

1081
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 2: it would have been Quincy Jones.

1082
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 3: You know, it would have been out of Philly. Huh,

1083
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 3: gambling huff.

1084
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 2: Let me see who else seventies? I think I said

1085
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 2: the two that that that actually is so.

1086
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: I thought you, I thought you was talking about artists

1087
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: that you would have liked to perform with, Oh, perform with?

1088
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, an artist you wanted collab with?

1089
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 2: Our artists, to collab with, man, it would have been

1090
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,880
Speaker 2: great to do something with like Diana Ross would have

1091
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 2: been great to do something, would you know, Donny Hathaway

1092
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 2: would have been great to do something with.

1093
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 3: Michael Jackson.

1094
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, give me a mount rushmore of r and B singers,

1095
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: Mount Rushmore. You only get four ushers. So I mean

1096
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: I've had people on here that Stevie Wonder.

1097
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 3: Let me see Donny Hathaway, Whitney Houston.

1098
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:43,760
Speaker 8: Oh, I said Stevie Wonder, right, you put him on twice,

1099
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 8: Michael Jackson, Marvin Gabe that not just.

1100
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 6: Yere, you had four.

1101
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,879
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm saying, I'm okay, so I can't take

1102
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 2: Michael off from Marvin. All.

1103
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 6: Come on, now you look at Michael's R and B

1104
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 6: do I you you know? I mean I thought he

1105
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 6: was the king of pop, but.

1106
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 2: Man, he created a format that like R and B

1107
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:11,800
Speaker 2: was like, I mean, you know this is He's interesting, right? Kings?

1108
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 3: Right? Yes, I think all of those guys are kings.

1109
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 6: Right.

1110
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:18,280
Speaker 2: I think that we get so caught up on being

1111
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:21,320
Speaker 2: the number one king person right to have that title,

1112
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:22,280
Speaker 2: to be the king.

1113
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 1: Because normally only got one king. You got a king

1114
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 1: or the queen. You got a lot of princes. You

1115
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 1: can be a lot of princes, but you can only.

1116
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 6: Have one king. Usher.

1117
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 2: You can only have one king one queen, which you

1118
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:34,320
Speaker 2: can only have one usher. Baby, and Usher, you know

1119
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. He gets the ceremony. Right, he come

1120
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 2: out white glove service. Baby. You know what I'm saying,

1121
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 2: We're gonna delip knob now. But greater than being a

1122
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 2: king or either saying I want to have that one spot.

1123
00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:47,720
Speaker 3: What I see is needed is a king, dumb okay.

1124
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 2: Right, So when I look at all of the genres

1125
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 2: of music, I see EDM and I look at festivals,

1126
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:56,359
Speaker 2: and I look at the lifestyle, the equipment I look at.

1127
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,800
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Country music, I think boots,

1128
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 2: I think cowboys. You know what I'm saying, I think chaps,

1129
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 2: I think cowboy hats and rodeos and all kinds of.

1130
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 3: Stuff like that. I think pickups.

1131
00:51:05,960 --> 00:51:08,280
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. There's a culture there, right,

1132
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:12,440
Speaker 2: there's a kingdom to this idea. There's a monetization of

1133
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 2: that thing. R and B are either the genre that

1134
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 2: I came from. I don't think it possesses the same

1135
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:22,879
Speaker 2: weight in terms of the other ancillary businesses that are there.

1136
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 2: And that's what I'm focused on. We gonna be all kings.

1137
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 2: Matter of fact, you know what I'm saying, it's tons

1138
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 2: of people who put in the work. I ain't the

1139
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 2: only person that's been put in them thousand hours, and

1140
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 2: I don't know or profess to be the only king.

1141
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 3: Am I the king of what I feel?

1142
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 6: Yeah?

1143
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 2: I am. Every day I wake up feeling like a king,

1144
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And I work hard to

1145
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 2: be that king. But I want a kingdom. I want

1146
00:51:42,719 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 2: us to be able to have the same pope to see.

1147
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 3: In hip hop.

1148
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 2: Right, when I think of hip hop, I think of

1149
00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 2: what you're drinking. I think about the glasses you wear.

1150
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 2: I think about the shoes you got on. I think

1151
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 2: about you know, the records, I think about that culture.

1152
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 2: I think about the clothes you're wearing. Right, I want

1153
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 2: the same thing. I want that kingdom for R and B.

1154
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 3: In that same.

1155
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 1: Way, who was presented a collab with Usher and he

1156
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 1: turned it down and he's like, damn, my should have

1157
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 1: did that collaboration?

1158
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:08,800
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1159
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:11,719
Speaker 1: Is there collab that someone asked you to be a

1160
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 1: part of and you didn't And when it came out, you're.

1161
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:18,240
Speaker 2: Like, damn, Yeah, you're gonna hate me for this one.

1162
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 2: Oh jay Z for real, Diddy, Damn Usher and me

1163
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:29,280
Speaker 2: was supposed to be a group.

1164
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 3: Yeah that's crazy. Yeah, you're gonna hate me for that.

1165
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:35,280
Speaker 3: I know Yeah.

1166
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:36,839
Speaker 6: Why Why did you say no?

1167
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,680
Speaker 3: I didn't say no, you didn't say yeah. I didn't

1168
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 3: say yeah.

1169
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:42,320
Speaker 6: You said yeah on the record.

1170
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:46,879
Speaker 2: But that's the one I think that we just got

1171
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 2: caught up. I think we all got caught up in

1172
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 2: a moment. We was talking about it, having secret meetings

1173
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 2: about it. We were talking about music and how we're

1174
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:56,960
Speaker 2: gonna flip it in the business of it, and somehow, man,

1175
00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 2: we just got distracted, you know what I'm saying.

1176
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 3: And it never happened.

1177
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 2: You know, that's the one that I actually wish would

1178
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 2: have happened. Is there a movie or something that I

1179
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:13,880
Speaker 2: was supposed to be a part of a collaboration. Yeah,

1180
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 2: David Geffen reached out to me to be uh in

1181
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 2: dream Girls, and.

1182
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:22,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, it just didn't happen.

1183
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 2: And I had, I think everybody hit me about this

1184
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 2: joint too.

1185
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 3: I had Eddie Murphy hit me, Man Brandy hit me.

1186
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 1: It's just there's never just there's always a reason. You

1187
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 1: don't get in your car just sit there. You go

1188
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,759
Speaker 1: to the grocery school, when you drive to the you

1189
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 1: drive to a concert.

1190
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 6: I know you turned that down.

1191
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 3: Yeah I didn't do it.

1192
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 6: Didn't you know about this? Yeah?

1193
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 3: Drink of that.

1194
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 1: I read that you were beyond saves nanny? Will you

1195
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:53,280
Speaker 1: beyond nanny?

1196
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 3: First of all, how can I be a nanny?

1197
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 6: I'll be a manny, you know what I mean?

1198
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 2: No, Noah, I wouldn't. I wouldn't be on sa nanny.

1199
00:53:58,880 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 6: Nah.

1200
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,800
Speaker 2: Darryl Simmons, he had a group by the name of

1201
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 2: the Dolls, Okay, and they came to Atlanta for the

1202
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 2: first time. This is when this before Destney's child became

1203
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:12,279
Speaker 2: Destney's child. And I think I looked over them while

1204
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:13,960
Speaker 2: they were doing something in the house. I had to

1205
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 2: watch them because I was like the the authority, because

1206
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 2: I guess I was the teenager at the time. But nah,

1207
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:20,399
Speaker 2: I wasn't a nanny, you know what I'm saying.

1208
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 6: No, But you were just overseeing them, making sure they

1209
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 6: at break them.

1210
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:24,520
Speaker 2: Make it certain that they didn't You know that they

1211
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:26,439
Speaker 2: didn't get in no trouble in the house at the time.

1212
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 1: Did you see Did you know that little girl was

1213
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 1: going to grow up to be that big international superstar?

1214
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 1: Can you look at because you did discover Justin Bieber,

1215
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 1: So you did see something so clearly you got an

1216
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 1: eye for talent.

1217
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:40,320
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1218
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,280
Speaker 3: Well, and not just by myself. There was a host

1219
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 3: of people.

1220
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:46,320
Speaker 2: You know, they say success has a million fathers and

1221
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 2: an orphan you know, you know, I got it. So

1222
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 2: I think when I saw them, I knew there was

1223
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 2: something very special about all of them because as Destiny's child,

1224
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 2: they all thrive. Even still to this day, when you

1225
00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 2: see them and you see them together, they all thrive.

1226
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,439
Speaker 3: They all are an incredible unit.

1227
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 2: Beyonce had a talent and also too, a brilliance and

1228
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 2: a brightness that was much different. And it was actually

1229
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:19,440
Speaker 2: Frank Gatston Gatson who helped me. See he worked with

1230
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:21,719
Speaker 2: me at the time, he was my choreographer, and then

1231
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:24,879
Speaker 2: he started working with them, and he'd always told me, man,

1232
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 2: like she's really special. You need to keep your eye

1233
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 2: on her. I was like, man, she is. She is

1234
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:32,880
Speaker 2: really special and really great for my sister. Man to

1235
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:36,720
Speaker 2: see that she's done so amazing and continue to thrive

1236
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:40,040
Speaker 2: and just get bigger and better and just you know,

1237
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 2: just I mean, rather it's musically or in our life

1238
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 2: or creativity, all of it.

1239
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 1: Man, how is it working being on the stage with

1240
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:51,480
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson Because he's I mean, if you're in this business.

1241
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 3: It's nerve breaking.

1242
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,880
Speaker 2: Bruh, I'm gonna tell you you know.

1243
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:58,720
Speaker 3: So I'm in my seat.

1244
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 2: And his manager comes over to me and he says, yo,

1245
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,280
Speaker 2: you're gonna dance with Michael tonight. I'm like, I'm watching

1246
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:06,959
Speaker 2: the show. What the heck do you mean I'm getting

1247
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:09,280
Speaker 2: ready to dance with Michael. So he's like, no, come backstage.

1248
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 2: I'm like, first of all, i ain't got my air

1249
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:13,840
Speaker 2: Force ones and I'm in boots. I can't dance in boots.

1250
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 2: So I'm like, oh my god, So now I'm going crazy.

1251
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 2: I'm backstage running around your lasting. I was asking like

1252
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 2: the people on the street yoah. I literally left bru

1253
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 2: and I ran outside down the street asking somebody for

1254
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 2: some shoes, give me some air Force ones. They it

1255
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 2: was like wallabies and like some new balances. I was like, Nah,

1256
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 2: that ain't gonna get it.

1257
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:33,760
Speaker 3: I need air Force one.

1258
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 2: So I come back in. I ain't got my air

1259
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 2: Force ones. I ask some like some boots. So anyway,

1260
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 2: I went out there, so y'all see me like, I'm

1261
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 2: I look, I'm stuck a little bit that that's really

1262
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 2: what happened. But no, I it was nerve racking to

1263
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:53,560
Speaker 2: actually dance for and with Michael. I can remember rehearsals,

1264
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:57,879
Speaker 2: and I mean I don't normally go all a lot of rehearsals. Dude,

1265
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 2: I was going off out singing at the top of

1266
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:06,480
Speaker 2: my lungs, dancing harder than I've ever danced, sweating, flying

1267
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 2: all over the room. He was like, man, you really

1268
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 2: have a talent. That was one of the greatest compliments

1269
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 2: that I could ever get. Wow, he says to me,

1270
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 2: you not only sing, but you dance to I know

1271
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 2: how hard that is.

1272
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 3: You sing and you dance. That combination is vicious.

1273
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 6: That the greatest compliment you received.

1274
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:27,919
Speaker 3: He didn't say vicious, but he said you dance and sing.

1275
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 3: I'm putting two into ten, right.

1276
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 2: He said that that that's a really special talent and

1277
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:37,880
Speaker 2: it really felt good to get that compliment from him.

1278
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 1: Well, you know, at we running the music game, absolutely

1279
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 1: were on top of the world. How did that because

1280
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 1: you're a part of that. Yes, I mean you can't.

1281
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:51,880
Speaker 1: You can't tell the story of Atlanta music without mentioned

1282
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 1: usher raiment.

1283
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 6: No, man, how did that make you feel? Man?

1284
00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 3: We did something? Man that a man.

1285
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:01,760
Speaker 2: Listen, I've got something to say, is what Dre said,

1286
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 2: and we've been saying it for a long time, you know,

1287
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 2: and the potency of that, you know.

1288
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 3: I think it's great. I think more than anything.

1289
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 2: Again, there's this transition and this focus just for me,

1290
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 2: and I think it should be a focus for more artists,

1291
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, to really focus on the

1292
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 2: other things that these genres or Southern music and entertainment breeds.

1293
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 3: There's an entire.

1294
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 2: Movement and feeling when you come to Atlanta, right, the

1295
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:33,560
Speaker 2: world needs to know that.

1296
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:36,480
Speaker 3: That's why I brought Atlanta to Las Vegas.

1297
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 2: You need to understand it no different Like you look

1298
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 2: at Circasole and all of those shows, right, they celebrate

1299
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 2: their culture.

1300
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 3: Whether it's in Spain or wherever it is. Our culture

1301
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 3: is the same.

1302
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 2: It might not be marketed the same, it might not

1303
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 2: feel because it's culture, but all cultural things eventually become

1304
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 2: something that's commercial.

1305
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 3: And I wanted the world to be able to see

1306
00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 3: and celebrate.

1307
00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 2: Who we are, how we get out, what our music

1308
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 2: feels like, what our energy is, what our experience is.

1309
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 1: You know two part question, yep, it's R and B

1310
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 1: dead and will R and B ever be what it

1311
00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 1: once was? At the height I'm talking about at the

1312
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 1: height nineties, early two thousand it was.

1313
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 6: Will it ever be bad again?

1314
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 3: So long as we.

1315
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:30,000
Speaker 2: Quantify the success of it as a number one spot

1316
00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 2: that has to be garnered in order to consider R

1317
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:35,880
Speaker 2: and B the biggest thing. I don't know that's in

1318
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 2: question for the world musically. I think that R and

1319
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 2: B is in everything. See, I ain't no fool. I

1320
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 2: understand where it all comes from. I understand the source.

1321
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 2: Maybe y'all don't understand the source. Maybe you don't understand

1322
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 2: that it's gospel blues, R and B and everything flowed

1323
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 2: upward from there. So no, it's gonna forever be a source.

1324
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:01,959
Speaker 2: Will it be and have potency for the entire world

1325
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 2: to celebrate? I believe so, and I'm gonna continue to

1326
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 2: fight for it. I'm gonna continue to be that conduct

1327
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 2: for it. As I said, Man, it's a kingdom. I'm

1328
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 2: kingdom that I'm after. I want the world to understand

1329
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 2: the value of what this music is, not just the

1330
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 2: service of it. Yeah, you put it on to make love.

1331
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 2: Yeah you put it on to celebrate good times. Yeah

1332
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 2: you put it onto the mode and have emotions, But

1333
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 2: it also to serve so many other things that we

1334
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 2: got to celebrate as well.

1335
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:29,840
Speaker 1: You know, how do you balance being a father and

1336
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:34,040
Speaker 1: being this have the have the residency here in Vegas.

1337
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're going to go back to

1338
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 1: tour again, because you got it pretty good right here.

1339
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 6: You don't have to leave. You don't have to leave

1340
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 6: at one stop shot.

1341
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, get once you get done, you go up

1342
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:47,040
Speaker 1: to your root where you gotta place now here in Henderson. Yeah,

1343
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 1: And so now you don't have to worry about getting

1344
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 1: on plane, getting on planes, trains, automobiles and going one

1345
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 1: state to the next state, to the next city.

1346
01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:57,920
Speaker 6: How how do you how do you balance that?

1347
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 1: Because you said because your father will than around when

1348
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 1: you were younger, that's very important to you that you

1349
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 1: around for your kids now. But you also understand that

1350
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 1: the way that it make a living is by doing this.

1351
01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 6: So how do you balance that?

1352
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 2: Well, the balance is, you know, up until seven o'clock, fuddy,

1353
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 2: you know, I'm focused on my kids, right, and then

1354
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 2: at seven o'clock on the dot, you know, I'm working.

1355
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:31,880
Speaker 2: It's funny how that works, but you know, man, it's

1356
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 2: a balance. Man, It's a balance in any field that

1357
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 2: we are, right, especially if you got.

1358
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 3: To travel with a team. I like to travel.

1359
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:42,160
Speaker 2: Actually, so I don't think that I'm done touring, right.

1360
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 2: I do see it in the future, but maybe in

1361
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 2: a different way. I just played Paris, you know what

1362
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 2: I'm saying, and I had an eight day residency or

1363
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 2: eight night residency in Paris. That was a major success

1364
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 2: to be able to you know, find space to sit

1365
01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 2: down and really enjoy, you know, because that's the most

1366
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:03,360
Speaker 2: important part. Yes, like the greatest, the greatest thing that

1367
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:05,840
Speaker 2: we have is time. It's not money, it's the time

1368
01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 2: that you spend, right, and being able to spend that

1369
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:10,960
Speaker 2: time with my children and spend that time and really

1370
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 2: enjoy the places that I go.

1371
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 3: I don't want to lose that.

1372
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 1: You part owner the Cavaliers and Lebron comes back and

1373
01:02:21,320 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 1: wins a title. Yeah, what was that moment because you

1374
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:26,680
Speaker 1: were there? What was that moment like in Cleveland? And

1375
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:27,880
Speaker 1: what was that moment like for you?

1376
01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 2: Well, it all started right because I don't know if

1377
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 2: I had as much to do with Cleveland as much

1378
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 2: as it was a business opportunity for a minority minority

1379
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:40,959
Speaker 2: ownership and this team and Dan Gilbert gave me that opportunity,

1380
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 2: you know, just as Lebron was making its way in

1381
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:45,600
Speaker 2: to the league.

1382
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 3: So we all, you know, had heard and known about

1383
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 3: him and his talent.

1384
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 2: So I felt like the luckiest man in the world

1385
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 2: to be a part of this incredible organization.

1386
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:56,760
Speaker 3: And what a story to be told, in a legacy

1387
01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 3: to be built.

1388
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:01,480
Speaker 2: I was just happy, obviously to have that be one

1389
01:03:01,480 --> 01:03:06,200
Speaker 2: of the first major entrepreneurial you know kind of things

1390
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 2: that that I had gone after and it had the

1391
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 2: potential to be successful. Man, when he left, I think

1392
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 2: it was hard for everybody in the world, specifically in Cleveland.

1393
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 6: Right because he's a native son.

1394
01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, But sometimes, man, sometimes you got to leave.

1395
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 2: Sometimes you have to go away from home in order

1396
01:03:23,080 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 2: to be truly valued and appreciated and maybe find yourself.

1397
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 2: I mean sometimes in the wilderness you'll find something valuable

1398
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 2: and you come back and you can really enjoy it.

1399
01:03:33,320 --> 01:03:35,959
Speaker 2: And what I've seen after that moment after he left

1400
01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 2: and came back, and then one in Cleveland, obviously, it's

1401
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:40,840
Speaker 2: just been a joyous moment for him.

1402
01:03:41,960 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 1: So you look at that the opportunity, because you said

1403
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:45,920
Speaker 1: this was in two thousand and five. You become a

1404
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 1: minority owner and you've done really good. You've you've invested

1405
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 1: you've broaden your portfolio. Is there are there other opportunities?

1406
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 1: Are you looking like an NFL team, an MLB team

1407
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 1: or you just kind of like stick to kind of

1408
01:03:57,720 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 1: what you know?

1409
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:01,479
Speaker 3: No, I mean always open, you know what I'm saying.

1410
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 2: I'm open to continue to expand I want to make

1411
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 2: certain that it's authentic right and also to it makes sense.

1412
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 2: I want to grow. I want to work in different areas.

1413
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:13,640
Speaker 2: I want to, you know, engineer and pioneer new things.

1414
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 2: There's no reason for music to be the only thing

1415
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 2: that you recognize me. For business is something that is

1416
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 2: very important to me here in Las Vegas specifically, I've put.

1417
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 3: My flag in the ground here. You know.

1418
01:04:28,760 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 2: It started with a Vegas residency, has now grown to

1419
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:35,320
Speaker 2: a very successful festival by the name of Lovers and Friends,

1420
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 2: and just received the key to the city. Now I'm

1421
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 2: trying to see how many doors I can unlock it, right,

1422
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.

1423
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 6: Are you gonna get in the restaurant business?

1424
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 3: Hey man?

1425
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:46,080
Speaker 2: I mean that's tons of opportunity out here. If there's partners,

1426
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 2: I'll let you boy.

1427
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:51,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get you out of here them this one.

1428
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:54,520
Speaker 1: I am bringing my daughter to tonight. So if you

1429
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:57,880
Speaker 1: would like, you know a song that's appropriate for someone

1430
01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 1: her age in the thirties. I'm not here, won't really

1431
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:01,760
Speaker 1: tell you exactly how old he is.

1432
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 2: But she's not married, she's not mad. Okay, cool, I'm customering.

1433
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 2: You know, I'm customizing this moment.

1434
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:15,400
Speaker 3: Go ahead, yeah, Ussher.

1435
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:18,840
Speaker 1: I appreciate your time, man, congratulations and everything you've done.

1436
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:21,720
Speaker 1: Continue success, bro, and uh, I know you're gonna knock

1437
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:22,320
Speaker 1: it out the park with her.

1438
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:24,919
Speaker 3: Hey, Bro, I appreciate you too, though. Ah, thank you man.

1439
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 2: Keep it real.

1440
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:28,480
Speaker 3: Usher, Yes, sir, God bless you though.

1441
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:30,920
Speaker 1: All Right, guys, you can see your boy address to impress.

1442
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:34,120
Speaker 1: I'm in Las Vegas and I'm getting ready to take

1443
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 1: my daughter for a birthday to the Usher concert. She's

1444
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 1: super excited because the very first concert he ever attended

1445
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:44,000
Speaker 1: was Usher. So for her birthday, she was like, Daddy,

1446
01:05:44,120 --> 01:05:47,040
Speaker 1: I want to go see Usher. So here we are,

1447
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 1: let's go. Thing we do for our kids. Bro, wonder

1448
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 1: what my my son gonna want for his birthday. Knowing him,

1449
01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:59,880
Speaker 1: he gonna take the money. My other daughter, yea, knowing her,

1450
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:02,840
Speaker 1: she gonna take the money. Leave the one I'm with,

1451
01:06:03,880 --> 01:06:06,560
Speaker 1: Dn't you got it.

1452
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:13,440
Speaker 6: You got it. I got bad baby, my nurse you know,

1453
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:18,920
Speaker 6: got nervous, your whatever, cal see sharp. You wanted to

1454
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:24,000
Speaker 6: kick it off. Yeah, you tell me that all the time,

1455
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:26,600
Speaker 6: aren't you. Actually? With your very first concert that you

1456
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 6: ever saw, I was.

1457
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 2: Twelve and this was during the Confession's era and Kanye

1458
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:34,440
Speaker 2: West opened up for tearing up.

1459
01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:36,920
Speaker 6: It's a sad baby. So we're making the weekend of it.

1460
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 1: So we got ushered tonight, we got a day tomorrow,

1461
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:42,600
Speaker 1: and then Thursday we got Lakers game.

1462
01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:44,040
Speaker 6: They opened up against the Suns.

1463
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, yeah, talking to day, they're telling them money.

1464
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:55,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, thank you. I'm excited. I'm excited you yeah, thank you.

1465
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:00,400
Speaker 2: M hmm.

1466
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:04,800
Speaker 4: All my life and grinning all my life, sacrifice, hustle,

1467
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 4: play the price, Wanta Slice got to brow the dice.

1468
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:11,000
Speaker 4: Thats why all my life, I've been grinding all my life,

1469
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:15,479
Speaker 4: all my life and grinning all my life, sacrifice, ustle,

1470
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:18,800
Speaker 4: play the price, Wanta Slice got to brow the dice

1471
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:21,480
Speaker 4: way all my life, I've been grinding all my life.

1472
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 5: M hm