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Speaker 1: Ron and Anian in order to get to the battery.

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Speaker 1: The batteries in the trunk. The trunk block won't work

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Speaker 1: the igniency. You can't use the kid whatever. Everything is.

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Speaker 1: That's the way it is. It's a high end car.

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Speaker 1: They never break. So they say, the car doctor, you

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Speaker 1: know what they call those lights? Right, And I'm by

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Speaker 1: no mean, I'm not saying you're that all right, but

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Speaker 1: you know the idiot lights. It really should be okay,

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Speaker 1: stop because the enginecies you all right, Dad, strange little man.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of ron and Anian, the

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Speaker 1: Car Doctor, since this is where car owners the world

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Speaker 1: overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If

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Speaker 1: your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up the

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Speaker 1: phone and call in. The garage doors are open, but

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Speaker 1: I am here to take your call at eight five

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Speaker 1: five five six. And now Andy running, Hey, it's time

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Speaker 1: to start your engines alone, and welcome mon and Ating

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Speaker 1: the card doccer here at five zero nine zero zero

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Speaker 1: again eight five five five zero nine zero to take

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Speaker 1: your call, answer your question, and help solve your car problem.

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Speaker 1: What a week, great week at the shop. Two nights

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Speaker 1: of class courtesy the folks over at a t G,

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Speaker 1: dot Com and um just learning a whole bunch of

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Speaker 1: things about hybrids, things you never want to know, but

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Speaker 1: hybrids really are. Wow, are they well engineered? They're they're

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Speaker 1: a little over engineered, and you know, and good political

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Speaker 1: arguments to A lot of the conversation in class was about,

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Speaker 1: you know, why you don't see hybrids break in the

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Speaker 1: same way that you see conventional gas engines break, and

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Speaker 1: you don't see electric cars aek in the way that

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Speaker 1: you don't see conventional gasoline cars break as well. You know,

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Speaker 1: electric and hybrid when you think about it, they were

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Speaker 1: in their infancy the technology, and they've been doing very,

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Speaker 1: very well. And it's very different than when gasolene cars

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Speaker 1: burst onto the scene a hundred and twenty some odd

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Speaker 1: years ago in that you know, if if you made

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Speaker 1: the corner store, you know, or around the corner, it

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Speaker 1: was you were doing well. And a lot of the

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Speaker 1: reason and rationale has to do with it seems that

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Speaker 1: you the public, you're very you're picky, Okay, you're fussy,

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Speaker 1: and if it got out that your hybrid kept breaking

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Speaker 1: or your electric car kept breaking, you're gonna stop buying them,

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Speaker 1: and thus ends the future. And it's what I've always

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Speaker 1: been saying. The reason they make cars the way they

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Speaker 1: do is because you keep buying them. So if you

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Speaker 1: want to change something, you know what you gotta do.

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Speaker 1: But it's um, it's clearly a case that the hybrids

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Speaker 1: are well engineered. The technology is quite interesting. Uh, the changes,

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Speaker 1: the things that they're doing to it, and the way

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Speaker 1: that they're changing the propulsion systems around and what you

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Speaker 1: have to stop and look at, and how they're gonna

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Speaker 1: work it. UM. I still maintain I think the hybrids

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Speaker 1: the conversation that you and I have had over the

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Speaker 1: not gonna happen anytime soon because of the infrastructure. And

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Speaker 1: I've said that for years and you've agreed with me.

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Speaker 1: I think that you know, to put together an infrastructure

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Speaker 1: too costly, so it's not gonna happen anyway. More information

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Speaker 1: about this radio show you can find us out at

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Speaker 1: Car Doctor show dot com. As we kick this hour

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Speaker 1: this hour and next. In honor of Father's Day, which

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Speaker 1: I happened to be one, you know, I want to

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Speaker 1: recognize that happy Father's Day to all his fathers out there.

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Speaker 1: It's like, boy, hot dog, we got to this point, right,

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Speaker 1: of Richard McCann Classic Car Adventures. We've been talking about

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Speaker 1: Richard and some of his adventures, and it's a compilation.

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Speaker 1: It's a book. It's a compilation of you know, different things,

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Speaker 1: We'll give away a couple of copies of that today, Um,

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Speaker 1: Tony must be on my mind this today. I don't

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the car, doctor, sir. How can I help, well,

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Speaker 1: good afternoon, Thank you very much taking the call. UH.

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Speaker 1: still showing a misfire or cylinder three? Yes, so it

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Speaker 1: Their protocol is when you have something like that, you

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's not unusual. That's and that's what you're

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Speaker 1: that I haven't proven yet. We moved all that stuff

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Speaker 1: Where does number three coil? Where does it get its information?

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Speaker 1: coming from. So you know the logic the shop is using,

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Speaker 1: back to cylinder three. Would you have been annoyed with that?

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Speaker 1: Or would you have been would you have been happy

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Speaker 1: it's just astronomical. Well, i'll tell you what though, it's astronomical,

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Speaker 1: all that stuff. Another poll hunted box. Uh. They moved

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Speaker 1: Let me let me pull over and take this pause,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back on any of the Car Doctor. We're talking

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Speaker 1: with Gary and me, and Gary, you're still there, sir.

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Speaker 1: So what I want to be clear is and let's

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Speaker 1: you know what, however, the mechanic handle that he handled it.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like he was trying to do his job.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I'm not going to defend him or

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Speaker 1: It's an intermittent fault that happens, you know, once every

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Speaker 1: far as information is a couple of things. One. Um. Again,

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Speaker 1: on cars today are critical hyundays seem to have problems

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Speaker 1: though it's done it four times, put it to that ignition,

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Speaker 1: and it just actaus if you're just not even there right,

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Speaker 1: load test on the battery to see what cold cranking

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Speaker 1: amps are and reserve capacity. One of the tests that

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Speaker 1: If if there's a new battery, well just remember new

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean good, new means never ever worked. You know that? Alright,

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Speaker 1: So let's let's let's get over that. That's like the

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Speaker 1: new spark plug. New just means that, well, we put

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Speaker 1: look down at the the where the positive cable goes

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Speaker 1: and make sure that's all good, clean and tight. Let's

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Speaker 1: look around the back of the intake for clean can

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Speaker 1: actions lot, look around the cylinder head. Do we have

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Speaker 1: good grounds? That's all we just you know, wiggle jiggle, Yes,

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Speaker 1: that you know. This obviously is an ignition because it

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Speaker 1: never says ignition. It says misfire. It says there's a

428
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:15,840
Speaker 1: problem with number three. Um. One of the uglier things

429
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 1: I've seen with oh eight yndaia Zerra's, as a matter

430
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,280
Speaker 1: of fact, is I've run into three cars with bad

431
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:25,280
Speaker 1: wiring harnesses where the harnesses themselves have issues laying across

432
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,440
Speaker 1: the laying across the valve cover, the part that feeds

433
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 1: into the injector. It's not common. It's kind of hard

434
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,399
Speaker 1: to find. You have to sort of manipulate the harness

435
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,639
Speaker 1: while the vehicle is running to see if there's any change.

436
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,359
Speaker 1: But you know, it's just something to keep in the

437
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:42,320
Speaker 1: back of your mind. Last has anybody looked at or

438
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 1: considered any software updates as far as for the PCM,

439
00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 1: I had the und garage checked that because I wouldn't know,

440
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 1: and that's what I had. You is it spokes to

441
00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,480
Speaker 1: have anything on that computer? Right? Uh, well, yeah, they'll

442
00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:00,639
Speaker 1: they'll be, they'll be. You know, um Soft are updates.

443
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 1: And there was a couple if I recall correctly, a

444
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 1: few years back that with regard to the way the vehicle,

445
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:12,520
Speaker 1: this particular vehicle, it's strategy for detecting misfires, some of

446
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,119
Speaker 1: the operating parameters were a little outside the scope of

447
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 1: what they needed to be, and hun they made some

448
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,239
Speaker 1: changes with the software update. So as long as it's

449
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,920
Speaker 1: got current software, we can just cross it off the list.

450
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:23,639
Speaker 1: We don't need to know what's in the update. We

451
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 1: just want to make sure that it's been done and

452
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 1: then it's got the most current level of software available

453
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,520
Speaker 1: to it, you know. After that, Yeah, then we're gonna

454
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 1: start to talk about injectors. I've never seen an intermittent

455
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 1: mechanical fault. I don't want to say never. I've been

456
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 1: fixing cars so long. I forget sometimes, but it's not

457
00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:43,320
Speaker 1: it's not a problem. Maybe I've seen it once or time.

458
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:46,080
Speaker 1: Actually I take that back. I did see it twice once.

459
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 1: I can remember specifically. It was a small block Chevy

460
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 1: that had a dual valve spring, and the spring would

461
00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,920
Speaker 1: wind up and release and wind up and release on

462
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 1: the intake valve, and it would make a misfire on

463
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 1: one cylinder as the engine was running, and that was

464
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,400
Speaker 1: an intermittent misfire. Of course, we're gonna have codes on cars.

465
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 1: Then it was an older car, but the idea would

466
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,200
Speaker 1: have still been the same. So I think you're chasing

467
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 1: injector at that point if you eliminate all these other things.

468
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 1: And the confusing path to me was if it was

469
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 1: a coil. I could not comprehend. My old school mechanics

470
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 1: me simply shutting the car off, waiting thirty seconds or

471
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 1: less or more, start the car and it's absolutely fine. Well,

472
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 1: here's why I'll put that to rest. Hyundai has a

473
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 1: misfire strategy, and I believe it exists on this car too,

474
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Speaker 1: that if it detects a miss, it's actually going to

475
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 1: shut down the injector, all right. If it detects a

476
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 1: miss on the cylinder, it'll kill fuel going into that

477
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 1: cylinder so that you don't overlottle the catalytic converter. And

478
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 1: when you start the car back up if the miss,

479
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 1: if the miss is gone, it's because it reset itself

480
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 1: in a sense, all right that now when you go

481
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 1: to restart it, when you go to restart it, if

482
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 1: the miss isn't there cranking or on startup, it will

483
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 1: allow that injector to continue to fire. You understand what

484
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So it's it's it's so that that could be.

485
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 1: You know, that act tells me that the computer accurately

486
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 1: saw a misfire and you're doing a reset and that's

487
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 1: exactly what it's doing. So, um, you know that's that's

488
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 1: a possibility. But have them go through those things that

489
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 1: we just talked about and let's see what Let's see

490
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Speaker 1: what that does as far as solving it for you.

491
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Speaker 1: And if it doesn't, you give me a call back

492
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,360
Speaker 1: next week and we can talk about it some more.

493
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,520
Speaker 1: All right, sir, we will do and I appreciate your help.

494
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Speaker 1: over to Carl in Illinois's who Chevy Silverado? Yes, Carl,

519
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Speaker 1: how can I help? I'm high, it's Paul. Oh, I'm sorry,

520
00:26:54,400 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 1: and no problem, it's not in h each just to

521
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 1: red to regular cab long bed two wheel drive has

522
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 1: a six liter gas motor of four l a transmission,

523
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 1: and UH four point one rear axle. Up until recently,

524
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,320
Speaker 1: the biggest thing I've towed with it has been a

525
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: car trailer that probably weighed about six thousand pounds and

526
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:24,159
Speaker 1: never had any issues. Um. We just recently purchased a

527
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 1: smaller fifth wheel trailer that, according to the sticker weights

528
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 1: on the trailer, the gross weight to that trailers ten thousand,

529
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 1: two hundred and the empty weights about sevent six hundred pounds.

530
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 1: But I have not pulled it across the scale to

531
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: know how realistic those numbers are. But the dispects. Looking

532
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 1: in the owner's manual of the truck, the gross weight

533
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: telling of the trailer should be ten thousand, five hundred

534
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,120
Speaker 1: and the gross combined weight rating of sixteen thousand. Well,

535
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 1: I've tried to tow this trailer twice, and both times

536
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 1: I've got about twenty or twenty five miles down the

537
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 1: road and the transmission temperature is saying fine, but the engine,

538
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 1: the the engine cooling temperature is going through the roof.

539
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 1: So I've had it towed home twice. Well, actually the

540
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 1: first time, I had the trailer toe back and I

541
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,359
Speaker 1: had the truck cool off for a couple of hours,

542
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 1: and I drove it home without the trailer about eighty

543
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 1: miles and didn't have any issues. Um, My mechanics looked

544
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 1: at it, and the last thing that they did is

545
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 1: they changed the thermostat out from agree to a one

546
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:36,239
Speaker 1: sixty degree thermostat. But I don't know if that's gonna help.

547
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 1: I'm almost at the point where I don't really trust

548
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: that this truck is really capable of calling that trailer,

549
00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: and and I'm I'm gonna have to be in agreement

550
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: with you, you know, changing from the one one sixty.

551
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,600
Speaker 1: The problem is going to be that when the trailer

552
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 1: is not on there, engine temperature is gonna run a

553
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: little cooler in all likelihood, especially in the after months,

554
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: unless you're gonna change it back, and you know you're

555
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: going to affect fuel economy a mission in time. Over time,

556
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: you'll start to carbon up and coke up the intake

557
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: valves in the tops of the pistons, and then I'll

558
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,600
Speaker 1: create another problem. So I've got to tell you first

559
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: things first, put the right thermostat back in the car

560
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: in the truck, all right, now, you know, do we

561
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: you know if we diagnose this is just a pure

562
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,959
Speaker 1: cooling system problem, I don't think you have one, because

563
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 1: you know you're saying you went, if I heard you right,

564
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: you went without the trail around and the truck runs

565
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: normal timp right, So you know, then the next step

566
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 1: is what can we do to the cooling system. It

567
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: sounds like the numbers you're you're giving me that the

568
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: gross vehicle weight rating is capable, right that I hear

569
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 1: it correctly. The truck's rated for ten five and the

570
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 1: trailers tend to and a combined weight of sixteen thousand

571
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 1: and so on, and that's down the trailer and I

572
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: had empty tanks. I really don't think it weighed that much.

573
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 1: But like I said, I haven't waited to trailer, so

574
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: it sounds like you're close. So then the question becomes,

575
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 1: do we have a marginal radiator? You know how big

576
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: is the radiator? Do we have an optional radiator we

577
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: can put in this? You know, surely it's cheaper to

578
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: change a radiator than a vehicle, especially something of this stature. Uh.

579
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: You know it's I can tell you from experience having

580
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 1: just gone through this, it's about forty five dollars to

581
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: go out and replace Chevy today, So you know, it's

582
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 1: a fifty dollar investment by the time you're done with

583
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 1: running boards, stereo, and all the bells and whistles. So

584
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: you know how many miles around this truck pall about

585
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: a hundred and fifty. So you know, original radiator, original

586
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 1: cooling system components ever changed. I don't believe the radiator

587
00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: has been changed. Um, the band clutch and uh, and

588
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 1: the thermostat and the water pump have been changed. I

589
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: believe it's stiator. Okay, So then the next question is

590
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: Is it a single row radiator? Is it a double

591
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: row radiator? They they used to and on certain ones

592
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 1: you can still get larger capacity radiators. And perhaps this

593
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: is a rad eater change. Um, you know, and maybe

594
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 1: it's just as simple as that. There's no I have

595
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: to ask the silly questions. There's no restrictions around the

596
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 1: grill area. Um, the truck was never in an accident.

597
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: It probably has all its body panels in place to

598
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:17,239
Speaker 1: direct air across the radiator correctly and so forth. I mean,

599
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: everything looks right. I thought it used about oh nine

600
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 1: so seven years I didn't have it. I'm not sure right,

601
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: but yeah, it's it's everything's there. I mean, listen, a

602
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 1: four L a d S a beefy trans the four

603
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: ten rear is likely the big axle. It's I think

604
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: it's worth the gamble from my seat here that I

605
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: would start to look, is there a bigger radiator you

606
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: can put into this and work it from there? Um?

607
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,719
Speaker 1: The other possibility is can you put an auxiliary trans

608
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: cooler on it? So that that was one of the

609
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: questions that I had. Ye, it does not have one now, right,

610
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: and if you put it, you know, or if you

611
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: take the trans cooler out of the radiator. You have

612
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 1: to put a big enough one on raded to cool

613
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 1: the trans such that you know big, because what you're

614
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: doing is you're it's probably a case that the radiator

615
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 1: is being superheated by the trans fluid because you're toning

616
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: and you're working and harder. So maybe we add an

617
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: auxiliary trans cooler, keep the one in the radiator where

618
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: it is, put a new radiator in it with bigger capacity,

619
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,520
Speaker 1: an auxiliary trans cooler in addition to the one in

620
00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 1: the radiator. Toe it and see what happens. It sounds

621
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 1: like that's more of the issue, and it's gonna be

622
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: a cheaper experiment than trying to convince your better half

623
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: any new truck. Um, yeah, it sounds like it's worth

624
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 1: I wasn't surf it's worth keeping trying. But it sounds

625
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 1: like it's like you've been talking about the dollars. I

626
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: think it probably it's it's it's it's it's it's it's

627
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: worth a thousand dollar experiment, brother, And then after that,

628
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: sell the trail around the truck and take your better

629
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: half go to the islands and um, toss a few

630
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: back and relax. And just take it easy and say,

631
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 1: well we tried, but by all means, go at it

632
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: that way, let us know what happens. I'm on any

633
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Speaker 1: of the Car Doctor. We're back right after this. Welcome

634
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Speaker 1: back Any of the Car Doctor. Piece of email. Rod,

635
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: a friend of mine has an day Sonata with aren't

636
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: a thousand miles on it and the transmission is starting

637
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: to slip. But would you recommend, aside from replacing the

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Speaker 1: trans fluid, change any type of editor that can be purchased.

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Speaker 1: Thanks very much of a happy holiday, Glenn. You know, Glenn,

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Speaker 1: the problem is when the when the when the trans

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Speaker 1: starts to slip. It's it's really only a few things

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Speaker 1: you can do. It's gonna be a case of and

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Speaker 1: the argument here becomes, before you change the fluid, was

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Speaker 1: the fluid ever changed and a hundred thousand miles or

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Speaker 1: you know? Or is this the case? So well, we

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Speaker 1: drove the car for it was trans fluich the last

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Speaker 1: the lifetime or the lifetime of the trans which was

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Speaker 1: on a thousand miles, and now it's time to put

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Speaker 1: a trans in the car. So you know, you can

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00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: check fluid level, you can change trans fluid if there's

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Speaker 1: a filter on this Sonata, which I don't think it's accessible. Um,

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Speaker 1: you can you know, check a filter? Is the trans

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Speaker 1: making any funny whining sounds? Is white whining sounds usually

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00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 1: a sign of a clogged transfilter. But short of that,

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Speaker 1: you know you can try the additive thing. There are

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Speaker 1: different additives out there. Uh, Lucas makes a trans additive

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Speaker 1: that's been known to work from time to time. But

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Speaker 1: the problem becomes your your kind of You've got mechanical issues,

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Speaker 1: all right, I'll say it like this. You've got mechanical

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Speaker 1: issues that have already happened and starting to manifest and grow.

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00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 1: The trans is starting to slip. So the question becomes

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Speaker 1: how bad do you want to band aid this trans?

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Speaker 1: And I say that in the sense of how far

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Speaker 1: from home are you with this trans? If this is

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Speaker 1: a commuter vehicle and you're traveling a hundred miles round

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Speaker 1: trip every day, you could be at the far end

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Speaker 1: of the hundred mile trip and the trans gives up

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Speaker 1: and it's a long walk home or a long toe

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Speaker 1: If it's a five mile a day car back and

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Speaker 1: forth down seven blocks and make a right you know

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Speaker 1: what an additive a fluid change nursing it along until

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Speaker 1: you can get a replacement or possibly put a trans

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Speaker 1: in it. That makes sense, so becautious. How you medicate

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Speaker 1: this one, We'll say it like that, because it is

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Speaker 1: how you and what you do, as far as just

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Speaker 1: replacing fluid and additives and so on and so forth, because,

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Speaker 1: as the Car Doctor always says, the road is a

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Speaker 1: very unforgiving p is, so you don't want to get

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Speaker 1: stuck out there. Hey, that wraps up this hour of

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Speaker 1: the Car Doctor. I want to thank you for stopping by.

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Speaker 1: I'm running any of the Car Doctor till the next time,

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Speaker 1: reminding you good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you