WEBVTT - It’s a very good TV (S2, E15 "Lost and Found") 0:00:00.760 --> 0:00:18.440 I am all in. I am all in with Scott 0:00:18.440 --> 0:00:22.360 Patterson and I heart radio podcast. All Right, everybody, we're back. 0:00:22.720 --> 0:00:27.840 We are joined by Amy Sugarman, Daniel Romo, Riley pelusis welcome, Welcome, 0:00:27.880 --> 0:00:31.800 Hello everybody. How are you guys? I mean awesome? After 0:00:31.840 --> 0:00:38.440 that episode, We're ready. Season two episode was fifteen Lost 0:00:38.440 --> 0:00:42.400 and Found. Oh boy, oh boy, what a what a 0:00:42.920 --> 0:00:46.800 what a rollicking ride this was. I tell you that, Lucy, 0:00:47.440 --> 0:00:49.199 I don't even know if this is an expression that 0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:52.080 makes any sense, but he's wrapped tighter than a country ham. 0:00:52.280 --> 0:00:57.680 I'll tell you. Did you know going into it that 0:00:57.800 --> 0:01:01.200 it had what I consider your second most iconic scene, 0:01:01.680 --> 0:01:05.200 which is the second most iconic scene, the rant that 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:11.759 my favorite scene ever. Yeah, your first is pushing the lake, 0:01:12.480 --> 0:01:16.920 and then this has number two. Yeah. Um, you know 0:01:17.480 --> 0:01:19.559 a lot of luke this week, A lot of luke. 0:01:19.600 --> 0:01:23.240 You couldn't get away from luke. Uh yeah, I look, 0:01:23.319 --> 0:01:25.880 I really enjoyed this episode. I thought it again, it 0:01:25.920 --> 0:01:28.679 was really tight, It was taught, it was filled with tension, 0:01:28.720 --> 0:01:31.320 it was filled with humor. It was it was just 0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:36.960 beautifully written and directed, and I thought the acting was 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:39.679 was spot on. And uh, you know, I have to 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:43.040 take back that I, you know, don't really enjoy watching 0:01:43.080 --> 0:01:45.720 the kids stuff, because I enjoyed watching the kids stuff. 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:49.040 You know. I liked watching Milo and Alexis go at it, 0:01:49.120 --> 0:01:52.280 you know, I like I liked Laurela and Milo going 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:54.800 at it. I thought it was terrific. And I got 0:01:54.800 --> 0:01:57.480 to know him a little better as a character, and 0:01:57.520 --> 0:02:00.760 I got to see some vulnerability, and I really liked 0:02:00.800 --> 0:02:02.480 him in this even though he was being a pain 0:02:02.520 --> 0:02:05.720 in the butt. You know, there's just something about how 0:02:05.760 --> 0:02:11.040 he approaches that character that draws you in so literally 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:15.920 when he gives the little subtle smirks and you know what, 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:18.079 you know, what really captive for me is seeing those 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:21.000 piles and piles of clothes that his mother sent him 0:02:21.040 --> 0:02:24.280 in Luke's apartment. It's like, we're done, You're not my son, 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:27.400 I'm disowning you. Let Luke raise you. And it's just 0:02:27.720 --> 0:02:32.000 I felt so bad for him, Um, and I just 0:02:32.120 --> 0:02:33.880 I don't know, I just felt a little deeper in 0:02:33.919 --> 0:02:36.400 love with him, you know. So anything he was doing 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:40.280 in the episode, um, and he wasn't being like, you know, 0:02:40.360 --> 0:02:43.520 jerky to Dean anymore. Within this episode. It was just 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:45.120 sort of he was just going back and forth. He 0:02:45.560 --> 0:02:49.040 wants this girl, and and I really see that he's 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:52.600 unable to. He he just doesn't trust people. And he's 0:02:52.639 --> 0:02:56.240 so wounded by his the rejection of his mother that 0:02:56.320 --> 0:02:58.079 he's not going to open up to anybody. And he's 0:02:58.280 --> 0:03:00.440 especially he's not going to open up to Laurela. I 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:03.240 mean he tried. Yeah, he's doing the best he can. 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:05.240 He's doing the best he can. And he put an 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:07.800 effort in right when she was because you see him, 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:11.760 you see him say no, I'm good. And then he 0:03:11.800 --> 0:03:16.280 remembers what Rory said and he's like, no, actually, food 0:03:16.360 --> 0:03:19.240 sounds good, right, And he tries the small talk. And 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:21.400 Rory is such a ray of sunshine and she's so 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:25.400 honest and she's so righteous that she opens his eyes 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:27.520 to a whole new world, like, hey, you're safe, you 0:03:27.560 --> 0:03:32.680 can be safe with me. Uh. But I like how 0:03:32.720 --> 0:03:35.080 she had that conversation with both of them. Yeah, she 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:38.080 really tells Laurela, you need to try. And then she 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:41.080 does the same to Jet, very mature, and then she 0:03:41.120 --> 0:03:43.080 goes and stands up for her mother. But that's my mother. 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:45.320 She's my best friend in the world, and you're not 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:47.320 going to treat her this way and give her a chance. 0:03:47.360 --> 0:03:50.080 She's a wonderful human being. You know, you can't just 0:03:50.120 --> 0:03:52.520 reject her and have me, you know, be interested in you. 0:03:52.600 --> 0:03:55.040 And he goes, oh, you're interested in you know. It's 0:03:55.040 --> 0:03:58.360 the one thing he hears, Right, I didn't know, and well, 0:03:58.400 --> 0:04:00.760 not in that word. I care about I care about 0:04:01.800 --> 0:04:05.440 something about I care about you, or you care about me? Right, 0:04:05.560 --> 0:04:11.360 and very charming stuff, you know, very very heartfelt, very charming. Um, 0:04:11.560 --> 0:04:15.040 high stakes, just just wonderful episode all the way around. 0:04:15.080 --> 0:04:18.320 I got my unique fix. So as long as I 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:21.440 get my unique fix, my Michelle fix, I'm good. Right. 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:25.680 I missed Richard and Emily a little bit in this episode. 0:04:25.880 --> 0:04:27.960 I kind of wanted to see them come into the fold, 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:30.479 but I don't know. I guess you didn't. Really, you 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:32.679 don't really need him in every single episode. There doesn't 0:04:32.680 --> 0:04:34.520 have to always be a Friday night dinner, but it 0:04:34.520 --> 0:04:37.680 would be nice if there was. But there is top 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:40.560 notch episode. It's one of the best, I think, So. 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:44.200 I think it's really because it lays you know, it's 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:46.360 looking forward. It lays a lot of ground where where 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:51.000 we're going. Um, and it moves Luke and Lowrela a 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:54.200 little bit more forward, not like not so in our face, 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:56.200 but just the scene where they pretend to be married 0:04:56.240 --> 0:04:59.240 and looks like, oh god, what are you crazy? You know, 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:04.360 I'm really trying to reconcile with you know, with the 0:05:04.400 --> 0:05:08.280 fact that he is. He just really blew up in 0:05:08.320 --> 0:05:14.080 her kitchen. But I would say that that guy has 0:05:14.120 --> 0:05:16.320 a lot dumped on him. There's a lot of stress 0:05:16.320 --> 0:05:19.039 in his life right now. He can't even you know, 0:05:19.120 --> 0:05:20.960 he's he's got to sit in his diner at night 0:05:21.000 --> 0:05:23.240 and watch a tiny little television set with a with 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:26.400 an aluminum foil and a and a hanger as an antenna, 0:05:27.200 --> 0:05:28.760 just to get some peace because he's got to get 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:31.200 away from jazz. Who listens to the rock music or 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:34.400 the punk music? In the apartment is way too small, Yeah, 0:05:34.440 --> 0:05:36.440 but it's just I mean, it's full of his stuff. 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:39.640 You know, he had to get out. That was a stressful, 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:42.720 hot mess in there, and we're forgetting the fact that 0:05:42.760 --> 0:05:45.760 he's suddenly raising a kid, so not only like squishtion 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:50.600 to this mess, like suddenly he's raising a teenager. Yeah, 0:05:50.680 --> 0:05:53.479 he lost it, He really lost it, didn't he. I 0:05:53.560 --> 0:05:57.760 felt bad for the guy. I don't know, what do 0:05:57.839 --> 0:06:01.000 you Danielle Riley, what thing? What do you think of 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:05.120 this episode? I loved it. I think it's a very 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:08.480 pivotal episode. We start to see the shift between Rory 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:13.440 and Dean, and just like with that little um the 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:17.560 city yards, say, would you consider that yard? The charity fair? 0:06:18.640 --> 0:06:22.280 Charity books? And how like Rory just kept wanting to, 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:25.960 you know, look at books, and she was like stopping 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:28.800 herself because Dean wanted to watch Lord of the Rings 0:06:28.839 --> 0:06:30.359 and like all that kind of stuff, and you start 0:06:30.400 --> 0:06:34.280 to see like, Okay, they aren't actually meant to be together, 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:38.679 you know, and then they're not. They're just so different. 0:06:39.000 --> 0:06:42.040 She rolled her eyes like again with the Lord of 0:06:42.080 --> 0:06:45.440 the Rings for god, seging, how dumb are you? And 0:06:45.480 --> 0:06:47.560 then him with the books, you know, like he was 0:06:47.600 --> 0:06:49.960 kind of like, oh my god, how many more books 0:06:49.960 --> 0:06:52.640 are you going to get? But that's so authentically she 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:57.120 acknowledges to Jeff like we're not at our best. Yeah, 0:06:57.440 --> 0:07:00.960 Like so she even knows it too. She said that 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:07.080 about Dean to Jess our best in this episode, I paraphrase, 0:07:07.160 --> 0:07:10.640 but something to the gist of that we're struggling or 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:13.600 whatever it is, because but she was putting that on 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:19.000 on Jess is right. It's like you've been such a 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:21.920 you're being such a disruptive force in this town that 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:24.200 you know, it's causing problems with my relationship. And I 0:07:24.240 --> 0:07:28.560 really loved Dean. But then yeah, exactly, Daniel. You see 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:31.200 him at the book fair and he's like, oh, lit 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:33.280 a little board, you know, he's looking at his watch 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:35.840 like I'm along, we've been you know, do you want 0:07:35.840 --> 0:07:39.000 to go to the astronomy section? Go ahead, you know, yeah, 0:07:39.320 --> 0:07:41.680 isn't be looking at books? What's wrong with you know? 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:44.720 Come on, like find a Lord of the ringbook like, 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:49.680 you know, like find a way to connect. Come on, buddy. No, 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:51.960 you could you could argue that he is like the 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:55.120 good boyfriend because he's he's almost like the purse holder. 0:07:55.400 --> 0:07:58.160 He's just there because she wants to be there. So 0:07:58.200 --> 0:08:00.120 it's like there is an element like he doesn't care 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:03.280 about these books. He went for her, so there is 0:08:03.480 --> 0:08:05.760 um you could you could play both sides of that, 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:09.520 her whole her whole world as books. Books mean more 0:08:09.560 --> 0:08:13.200 to her than anything else in the world, any possession 0:08:14.080 --> 0:08:20.800 in the world. World is the verbal sparring. No, well, 0:08:20.800 --> 0:08:23.080 that's how she grew up, man. She's very you know, 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:28.320 she's a she's a black Belding and banter, um, right, 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:30.720 and and and she gets that from her mom, and 0:08:30.760 --> 0:08:32.959 she gets that from book. Ultimately, it's all from books. 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:40.640 It's from reading. We have to totally remember black belding banter. 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:47.360 Such the perfect explanation of the Gilmore's because is a 0:08:47.400 --> 0:08:50.839 black belt and banter too. Yeah, they're quick, they're fast 0:08:50.880 --> 0:08:55.920 and funny and they're cutting and they're nasty, all right, 0:08:56.960 --> 0:08:59.600 and that is you know, that's the Northeast for you. 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:02.840 That's that's that's the elite Northeast, right, that's all that 0:09:03.080 --> 0:09:07.160 all that stuff. So um, But anyway, Riley, what did 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:11.120 you think of the episode? I totally agree on everything 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:13.120 that has been said. And then I love how we 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:15.840 talked about the books. And then you see the shift 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:19.520 of focusing on Jess because then Dean was an interest 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:22.479 in the books. But you see Jess in Rory's room 0:09:22.520 --> 0:09:26.000 just to look at her books, like you see the books, 0:09:26.320 --> 0:09:34.800 the books books. He was looking at the books, all right. 0:09:34.840 --> 0:09:37.520 There is a through line that he they have that 0:09:37.800 --> 0:09:45.160 major common interest and that they really can talk about literature. 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:48.720 I will say I was gonna how many episodes ago? 0:09:48.800 --> 0:09:51.880 Was that three episodes ago where she lost her bracelet 0:09:51.960 --> 0:09:55.600 and Jess picked it up. Um, I was like, I 0:09:55.640 --> 0:09:58.240 wonder when that's going to come back. And finally this 0:09:58.280 --> 0:10:01.200 episode was like oh ding ding ding, and Jes said 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:04.160 it perfectly, like she hasn't had it for two weeks 0:10:04.280 --> 0:10:09.000 and she's just noticing. Now. Yeah, Scott, my question for you, 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:11.600 and I really want you to break this down. He 0:10:11.640 --> 0:10:16.960 didn't steal the bracelet. No, Lorlie says that right, but 0:10:17.000 --> 0:10:21.440 he didn't. He didn't give it back right away. But 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:24.920 do we know and forgive me because I know people 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:28.240 will say I should know this. I don't know that 0:10:28.440 --> 0:10:32.480 Jess knows that bracelet was from Dean. No. I think he, Yeah, 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:37.600 he found out, so he didn't take the bracelet like 0:10:37.800 --> 0:10:41.640 I'm like like some criminal mind that's like I'm going 0:10:41.679 --> 0:10:45.680 to steal her bracelet that Dean gave her. I think 0:10:45.679 --> 0:10:48.840 he kept it because it was hers and he wanted 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:51.199 to like hold it, because we see that when he's 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:52.800 talking on the phone with her, he's holding it, he's 0:10:52.800 --> 0:10:56.360 looking at it. It's like a little keepsake to keep 0:10:56.440 --> 0:11:01.320 him close, keep her close to him. So I don't 0:11:01.360 --> 0:11:03.680 think he's the criminal that everyone makes him out to 0:11:03.679 --> 0:11:05.839 me right. But then once he found out, he did, 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:08.760 you know, use it to his advantage, which you know, 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:13.240 he's a clever, clever boy. Well, I feel like, okay, 0:11:13.400 --> 0:11:15.200 and you guys debate this because this is I'm giving 0:11:15.200 --> 0:11:18.040 my opinion, but I feel once he found out that 0:11:18.120 --> 0:11:22.280 she was so upset about it, he quickly figured out, Okay, 0:11:22.280 --> 0:11:24.480 I can't just give it back to her because then 0:11:24.520 --> 0:11:26.760 I'm like the creepy guy that took her bracelet and 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:30.840 held it in my bed at night. But like he 0:11:30.880 --> 0:11:32.400 figured out a way to put it back in there 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:35.080 and make it seem like she found it. So I 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:38.000 I feel like he's a good guy with this bracelet. 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:40.640 But I don't know if I misinterpreted that. And we're 0:11:40.679 --> 0:11:44.920 already seeing the green shoots of his relationship or his 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:48.000 feelings for Rory. Rory saving his life, books are saving 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:52.720 his life without Rory. Without books, this kid's in trouble. 0:11:52.960 --> 0:11:57.360 This kid's going into jail, This kid's you know, committing 0:11:57.840 --> 0:12:00.680 violent acts. I mean, we saw an earlier episode that 0:12:00.800 --> 0:12:04.600 he is prone to violence, that he is, you know, 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:10.079 a beat away, a heartbeat away from from punching somebody. Um, 0:12:10.120 --> 0:12:13.640 But now he's softening he's getting deeper into his feelings 0:12:14.040 --> 0:12:18.160 with Rory. Her feelings are deepening. He's reading more, he's 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:21.520 spending more time with you know, in his Luke's now 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:25.760 garbage apartment filled with his boxes and stuff. But he 0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:28.959 is making an attempt. You wanted him to clean the 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:33.040 gutters and he said okay, And Lorelai wanted him to 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:35.400 chat over the Chinese food because she was making her 0:12:36.160 --> 0:12:40.080 like gesture to him. So he is trying. I don't 0:12:41.040 --> 0:12:43.520 even though Lorelai confronts him and they have that sort 0:12:43.520 --> 0:12:46.520 of exchange. Like he stole the bracelet, That's not how 0:12:46.559 --> 0:12:49.920 I read it. I think he wanted it because she 0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:53.040 dropped in was hers and then as soon as he 0:12:53.160 --> 0:12:56.360 knew she was upset, he returned it because she doesn't 0:12:56.400 --> 0:13:00.959 want her to be upset. Yeah, that's exactly what I Yeah, 0:13:01.000 --> 0:13:03.720 and you know he's not gonna he's not gonna admit 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:07.679 that to laurel I. You know. Um, but I liked 0:13:07.679 --> 0:13:10.560 how I liked how he you know, attempted to have 0:13:10.679 --> 0:13:16.040 a little Chinese lunch with with Laurel I. He tried 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:19.360 his best. You know, I was rooting for the kid, um, 0:13:19.400 --> 0:13:21.640 I mean, what else can he do? Poor guy. You know, 0:13:21.760 --> 0:13:25.040 he's in a gosh. Man, when you're that young and 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:27.920 you're rejected that hard by a parent and you have 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:31.680 nobody except your uncle, which is fine, Right, that's a 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:33.960 that's a hard place to be. That's a very very 0:13:33.960 --> 0:13:37.760 difficult place to be. But if that's gonna happen to you, 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:40.439 thank god it happened in a place like stars Hollowood. 0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:42.760 Then he's involved with Luke and he's involved with Rory. 0:13:42.800 --> 0:13:45.680 I mean, he got saved. Other kids that find themselves 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:48.720 in that situation aren't so lucky, but he he got lucky. Yeah, 0:13:48.800 --> 0:13:51.280 that's really accurate. You know, he ended up in stars 0:13:51.320 --> 0:13:55.520 Hollow surrounded by some pretty solid people and now he's 0:13:55.679 --> 0:13:59.440 you know, the bright light that is that is Rory 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:03.079 um with with what the future holds for her, what 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:06.839 we think and hope and the future holds for her. 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:09.440 I mean, he's he's in a good he's in a 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:12.240 good spot. Well, speaking of that, what do you think 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:16.839 of the scene in the kitchen when Luke and Laura 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:19.640 I talk about, hey, do you think there's something going on? 0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:22.880 And looks like I really don't know, but I sure 0:14:22.960 --> 0:14:25.640 hope so, and like that sort of exchange they had 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:30.000 in the kitchen. Well, that's just a contrast to you know, 0:14:30.600 --> 0:14:36.080 they're divergent views on Jess. And I don't blame Laura 0:14:36.200 --> 0:14:39.000 Life for feeling the way she does. She's operating with 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:42.560 not a full slate of information on the kid, right, 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:44.680 She's not. She doesn't have all the details. She just 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:48.400 sees what she sees. And these are very negative impressions, 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:51.920 all all three or four of them. And it just 0:14:51.960 --> 0:14:54.920 seems like every encounter with Jess is a negative encounter, 0:14:55.160 --> 0:14:57.080 and she always ends up kind of barking at him 0:14:57.120 --> 0:14:59.560 a little bit, you know, let's like, get off my property, 0:14:59.600 --> 0:15:02.120 get out of right. I mean, he sort of earned 0:15:02.160 --> 0:15:05.720 as a reputation, like Taylor said, held them in the back. 0:15:06.520 --> 0:15:10.400 You know, it's like he has done some things that 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:13.960 are a little he's sort of the town bad boy 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:16.760 with chalk outline and the whole thing. So I get 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:20.440 why she's you know, yeah, I don't don't blame her 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:23.280 at all. And and and sure there's that disconnect between 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:26.000 those two and I just you know, getting back to 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:33.120 that rant. Um interesting he goes to her and really 0:15:33.200 --> 0:15:36.240 let's loose like that. Um, And I was, you know, 0:15:36.280 --> 0:15:39.160 I was sitting there actually just trying to you know, 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:41.560 I was getting judge e with my acting and judging 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:44.200 with the choices I was making. And but you know, 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:46.160 and the thing that was amazing me, and we'll we'll 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:49.960 get a little wonky here on acting technique a little bit. 0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:54.320 I was amazed at how with such you know, it's 0:15:54.320 --> 0:15:58.800 a very difficult assignment for Lauren because she can't throw 0:15:58.800 --> 0:16:01.800 off my timing because I'm just going like a million 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:04.920 miles an hour, um um, you know, every every movement 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:07.320 is connected to something. Uh. You know, I've got to 0:16:07.360 --> 0:16:10.800 hit all those beats through that speech and she can't 0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:13.560 mess me up, right, She's got to keep the balls 0:16:13.600 --> 0:16:16.280 in the air the same way I am. And if 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:18.480 she hesitates a little bit on one line because she 0:16:18.480 --> 0:16:20.400 had these like uh huh, well what did you say? 0:16:20.440 --> 0:16:23.320 And you know this kind of thing that's hard. It's 0:16:23.360 --> 0:16:26.600 really hard to do. And I hadn't thought go watch 0:16:26.680 --> 0:16:30.360 that scene again and look how relaxed she is and 0:16:30.400 --> 0:16:33.800 how with what such ease she gets through that scene. 0:16:33.840 --> 0:16:36.880 It's wonderful. And is that because of her and she's 0:16:36.920 --> 0:16:39.680 just got so naturally talented or does she also just 0:16:39.800 --> 0:16:44.640 know the scene so perfectly? Both? And it's just like 0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:47.400 she's really there for you as a partner, as a 0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:50.440 scene partner, and she's like she's saying to you, I'm 0:16:50.440 --> 0:16:53.160 not gonna let you fall. I'm gonna I'm gonna you know, 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:56.360 I'm gonna I'm gonna hit my cues. Your timing is 0:16:56.360 --> 0:17:00.240 gonna be perfect. Don't worry, just go. And I remember 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:03.040 every single take it was like it was it was magic. 0:17:03.360 --> 0:17:07.760 I mean, it's really hard to do really hard to 0:17:07.800 --> 0:17:10.760 do that and usually takes a long time, but with her, 0:17:11.480 --> 0:17:14.360 it was just it's just easy, you know. And I'd 0:17:14.400 --> 0:17:17.600 love that you talk about that, because as a person 0:17:17.840 --> 0:17:20.840 sitting and watching it, I don't even think about it 0:17:20.840 --> 0:17:25.200 because it's just so real. It's like it's still their cadence. 0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:28.160 But it's just so real that nothing takes me out 0:17:28.200 --> 0:17:32.000 of that scene. And I get as you. I mean, look, 0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:33.800 I'm like looking at myself in this zoom right now, 0:17:33.880 --> 0:17:38.080 and I'm like, I'm gross. Like how you can watch 0:17:38.119 --> 0:17:43.600 it without judging yourself is almost impossible. Well, look, you're 0:17:43.600 --> 0:17:46.160 supported by the dialogue, you're supported by the scene, you're 0:17:46.160 --> 0:17:48.520 supported by the lighting, you're supported by all that great 0:17:48.560 --> 0:17:53.439 stuff that technical crew brings to bear Um. But you know, 0:17:53.880 --> 0:17:58.280 the miracle of that scene was just watching Lauren in it, 0:17:58.680 --> 0:18:02.840 you know, and watching how how easily and comfortably and 0:18:03.080 --> 0:18:06.080 how relaxed she was through the whole thing, and how 0:18:06.160 --> 0:18:09.320 comedic she was, and her just the timing of everything 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:12.960 she was doing because she's got a watch it again. 0:18:13.040 --> 0:18:14.800 Doesn't that make you guys want to watch against? Like, 0:18:15.480 --> 0:18:17.720 I don't know that I even noticed her so much. 0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:20.240 I mean I did. That's her job is just sort 0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:24.280 of like let me go and like let me shine 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:26.480 and let that, and she's just so good at it, 0:18:26.880 --> 0:18:29.400 you know. It's just it's and they all are. I mean, 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:32.560 it's wondering even with Jess, those scenes with Jess, those 0:18:32.640 --> 0:18:34.760 quick back and forth scenes with Jess, I mean it 0:18:34.840 --> 0:18:38.399 was also right. I mean at the end, he has 0:18:38.920 --> 0:18:43.160 very minimal blines. Let's say that he has to just 0:18:43.280 --> 0:18:46.200 really be with you as you're coming in and open 0:18:46.240 --> 0:18:53.040 the fledge, you know, and he just has to be 0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:56.920 so on his game, and only one could you only 0:18:56.960 --> 0:19:01.240 do that? One could only could And do you feel stressed? 0:19:01.320 --> 0:19:03.879 And Amy Amy told us to said, listen, you can 0:19:03.920 --> 0:19:05.879 only do one take because if we have to do 0:19:05.920 --> 0:19:08.560 another take, if you flub the line or you flubbed 0:19:08.600 --> 0:19:10.960 the hit. Then it's going to take a couple of 0:19:11.000 --> 0:19:16.199 hours to to reset, reset this whole this set. Yeah, 0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:18.280 so does that? What does that make you feel? Like? 0:19:18.640 --> 0:19:21.800 Just hey, it's time, it's it's time to Tom Brady 0:19:21.840 --> 0:19:25.919 and rise to the occasion in honor of his retirement. 0:19:27.320 --> 0:19:30.399 I want to know it. Like after you banging a 0:19:30.400 --> 0:19:32.520 hole in the wall, there's like all this dust and 0:19:32.560 --> 0:19:35.760 debris coming down. Is somebody back there is throwing things 0:19:35.840 --> 0:19:38.240 down the wall. I think it was either somebody throwing 0:19:38.280 --> 0:19:43.040 things down or was was rigged for stuff to fall? Yes, indeed, 0:19:43.440 --> 0:19:46.840 and it was perfect. The whole thing was perfect. But yes, 0:19:46.920 --> 0:19:49.280 you're and you're right. Notice how when I come in 0:19:49.920 --> 0:19:52.879 Jess doesn't pay attention to me. But then when I 0:19:52.920 --> 0:19:55.280 go in the closet, get the sledgehammer and start passing him, 0:19:55.320 --> 0:19:57.840 and he turns and notices a sledgehammer. So it's like 0:19:58.000 --> 0:20:02.119 all his he has no dialogue, but communicating his confusion, 0:20:02.400 --> 0:20:06.600 his amazement, his fear, his excitement, all in in his 0:20:06.640 --> 0:20:09.120 body movements. And then he gets up very quickly, very 0:20:09.200 --> 0:20:11.800 energetically to follow me to see what the hell he's doing, 0:20:12.240 --> 0:20:14.480 Like it's Luke gonna go beat somebody's head in what's 0:20:14.480 --> 0:20:16.919 he doing? He doesn't know. And then when I go 0:20:17.000 --> 0:20:19.760 to the wall and smash it, he just his body 0:20:19.840 --> 0:20:22.320 tightens up and he's like amazed by it and like, 0:20:22.400 --> 0:20:26.480 what the hell is going on? So these people are 0:20:26.560 --> 0:20:30.600 so wonderful at what they do. Their craft is so 0:20:30.800 --> 0:20:34.879 finely honed. Um and especially in that that walk and 0:20:34.920 --> 0:20:37.120 talk we were doing I was doing with the with 0:20:37.160 --> 0:20:45.240 Milo Um looking at apartments, so that was all and 0:20:45.280 --> 0:20:48.119 it was just like, I just I don't know, I 0:20:48.200 --> 0:20:50.719 just I thought all the apartment stuff was really like 0:20:51.760 --> 0:20:55.160 entertaining clever, and I didn't remember it. And I've seen 0:20:55.160 --> 0:20:57.359 this episode many times because I think it's more subtle, 0:20:57.359 --> 0:21:01.240 whereas you remember the scenes the more dramatic and the 0:21:02.400 --> 0:21:05.320 Luke and lor Lye and the jest stuff that was 0:21:05.400 --> 0:21:10.520 so clever and funny, like you guys walking around town, 0:21:10.560 --> 0:21:14.520 and then this in the apartment with lor Lye, and 0:21:14.560 --> 0:21:17.720 then just the fact that Taylor owns half the town. 0:21:19.280 --> 0:21:24.880 It's like, of course, so good and that just makes 0:21:24.880 --> 0:21:27.840 you more mad. How great is Michael Winners. I mean, 0:21:27.920 --> 0:21:31.520 that's scene on the street of the sidewalk was just magic. 0:21:31.800 --> 0:21:36.119 He's mad at your applications why why are you looking 0:21:36.160 --> 0:21:39.000 at my applicate? It's so genius And I didn't see 0:21:39.000 --> 0:21:42.360 it coming and was just like, mo, he owns half 0:21:42.440 --> 0:21:45.240 the buildings in town. And then you've got a good 0:21:45.240 --> 0:21:47.119 deal on that building if you bought the building for 0:21:47.160 --> 0:21:49.040 a hundred thousand dollars. But maybe that was your down 0:21:49.040 --> 0:21:54.840 payment down payment. No, the whole building and Stars Hollow 0:21:54.840 --> 0:21:58.760 in two thousand was a Graham of course, yes, a 0:21:58.840 --> 0:22:02.520 large building. Now yeah, underground. I thought the same thing, Amy, 0:22:02.640 --> 0:22:05.480 I'm like, what a bargain? And he paid cash too? 0:22:05.560 --> 0:22:08.879 How much cash? Just Luke just having some bank account somewhere. 0:22:08.880 --> 0:22:11.560 It's like, whoa, Yeah, I started, you know, I started 0:22:11.560 --> 0:22:13.280 feeling bad for the guy. You know, what I really 0:22:13.320 --> 0:22:16.199 saw in Luke this episode was that he's just he 0:22:16.320 --> 0:22:19.560 really is this small town guy. He's not leaving, he 0:22:19.600 --> 0:22:22.879 doesn't need much. Why is he living up there? You know, 0:22:22.880 --> 0:22:25.719 why doesn't he have an apartment? He just I just 0:22:25.840 --> 0:22:27.800 think he misses his dad. He wants to be near 0:22:27.880 --> 0:22:30.520 his dad. I think he's really Yes, I agree that 0:22:30.840 --> 0:22:33.760 a lot of pain. That doesn't No, he's in a 0:22:33.800 --> 0:22:36.560 lot of pain. He's kind of frozen in the past 0:22:36.600 --> 0:22:40.520 a little bit or you know it's I just felt 0:22:40.520 --> 0:22:43.520 bad for him. It's like, get out of you, get 0:22:43.520 --> 0:22:45.959 out of your own way, guy. I mean it's just 0:22:46.040 --> 0:22:48.119 like evolve a little bit. Get you know. That's so 0:22:48.200 --> 0:22:50.600 interesting because you you more have sympathy where I'm like, 0:22:51.160 --> 0:22:54.040 this is how this guy isn't he's happy this way. 0:22:54.359 --> 0:22:56.679 I didn't even find him to be that unhappy watching 0:22:56.720 --> 0:23:00.199 the game and the diner on the tiny, little crappy TV. 0:23:00.359 --> 0:23:02.399