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Speaker 1: where they're charging and where those bills are going, where

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Speaker 1: they hang out. I mean, do they charge every single

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00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 1: day at the soup shop on the corner. Then go

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00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: there and sit there and wait and get them. I

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Speaker 1: guarantee you finding their new cell numbers, finding where they're

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00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 1: spending money. What ATM do they go to to get theirs?

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00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 1: That's how you're gonna find them. Earth that's correct, Nancy,

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00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 1: And I'm sure once the warrants are issued, the federal

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00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 1: warrants are issued, the FBI, the US Marshall Service, the

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00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 1: local authorities. Well, do exactly what you're talking about. They're issued,

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00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: v they're issued. I'm not talking about the arrestaurant out

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00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: of Mexico. You can't arrest someone on a foreign arrestaurant.

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00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 1: It has to They have to be arrested once the

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00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 1: US district court issues the extradition warrant, and to my knowledge,

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00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: those haven't been issued yet. You know another thing I

441
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: would say pronto, I would go to mommy and grandma

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00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 1: and auntie and I would exploit, put some pressure on

443
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 1: them and let them know there is no mommy daughter privilege.

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00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 1: Oh no. And if they are hiding these women and

445
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: the friend, this male friend, they know where they are.

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00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: If they are harboring a fugitive, I would put them

447
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 1: under the jail right along with the defendants because they

448
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 1: are obstructing justice. Quill along. What about this guy, this friend,

449
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 1: guy who is he don't you all know where he lives? Yes,

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00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: but in that house, I bet he's not gonna They

451
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 1: have to be with a relative, stand with a relative.

452
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 1: I don't even think his mama is even going to work.

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00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: Last thing, I heard that. I don't even believe she

454
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 1: works there any longer. Really, so is everybody clearing out? Quill?

455
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 1: I mean, help me tell me what's happening? What do

456
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 1: you know? You know these other women went to college

457
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 1: with her, and I would say, you know they got

458
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 1: have college degree. Say they're not complete idiots. They did

459
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 1: video a homicide, so they may be back in the

460
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 1: idiot category they are, But you do know you know

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00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 1: who the guy is? Who is the guy? What is

462
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 1: his name? Eliah Cook? Say what Cook? That's right? Coalia Cook?

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00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: And he is no longer in his house? Is his

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00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 1: mother still at his house? Either one of them up there?

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00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 1: They're both gone? Oh so he snugged up with mommy?

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00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 1: Okay or brand? What do we do now? Track them all?

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00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: Track then both Yeah, you're right, and everyone associated with him, Nancy,

468
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: they're not going to be able to get away once

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00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 1: U those US warrants are issued. They're going to be

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00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 1: taken into custody fairly quickly. There. I'm sure they're tracking

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00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 1: them now and an anticipation of the warrants. And then

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00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 1: once they have the warrants, those people, you know, however,

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00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 1: many warrants are issued, those people will be taken into custody.

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00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: Then they will be extradited back to Mexico. They don't

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00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: have a political leg to stand on. Um. We extually

476
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: to night people back and forth between the US and

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00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: Mexico on a daily basis. It's going to happen. Doctor

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00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 1: Tim Gallagher a medical examiner for the state of Florida.

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00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: You can find him at pathcaremad dot com. You and

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00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: I have both reviewed the video that these idiots shot

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00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: while chan Quila is being killed. I'm just gonna go

482
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: out on a limb because according to the autopsy report,

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00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:35,800
Speaker 1: she died within fifteen minutes of the blow to the head.

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00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: What And I try not to do it, doctor Gallagher,

485
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: but I keep putting my little girl. I keep thinking,

486
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 1: what if I was having to look at this video

487
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: and it was my girl or my son? And I

488
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 1: can't even imagine what Missus Robinson is going through. Could

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00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 1: you detail for people they have not seen the video?

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00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: And Fox Nation, I hope you're running it what this girl,

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00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: shan quill it went through with her friends. You know,

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00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: certainly the trauma is us. It's just well, Number one

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00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: is disgusting. The entire um, the entire episode, the entire

494
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: the entire situation is just absolutely disgusting. Um. You know,

495
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:30,360
Speaker 1: when after she got attacked, she felt every blow to

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00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 1: her body, and when she got the fatal blow, the

497
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: fatal blow to the head, she can feel you can

498
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 1: feel that within your body. You can feel your bones breaking,

499
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: You can feel the paralysis come over you. You are

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00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: unable to defend yourself. You have no connection to your

501
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: arms and your legs any further, so you cannot move,

502
00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: you can out walk, you or totally helpless, you know,

503
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:04,239
Speaker 1: but still you are conscious. You are still conscious for

504
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: part of that time, and you can still see the

505
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 1: people around you, are still very aware of the violent

506
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 1: situation around You can still hear the voices of the

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00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 1: people you know who are attacking you. But she wouldn't

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00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,879
Speaker 1: be able to move right because her spineman severed right.

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00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 1: She would be paralyzed and she would not be able

510
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: to move her arms, her legs. She would not even

511
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: be able to speak, but she still would be able

512
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 1: to hear, and she still would be able to see,

513
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 1: you know, And that's that's that's the horror of the

514
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: entire situation. You would still be able to understand what

515
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 1: you're hearing and still be able to see the violence

516
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 1: around you, even though your spinal cord was severed. Yes,

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00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 1: a few moments ago, Jackie White a note at me,

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00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,760
Speaker 1: which I thought in the heat of that moment was irrelevant,

519
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 1: But now I'm rethinking it and I think it's entirely significant.

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00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: She held up that chaquila was not found in the

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00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: bedroom where we see her getting beaten as her friend. Guy.

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00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: Is that who's videoing at Quilla. It's the guy videoing it,

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00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: that's one of them. That's not the actual friend that

524
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,800
Speaker 1: we know. He's in the room though, because he wants

525
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: to do that. If of video and it when he

526
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 1: paid the phone a little, you can see him on

527
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: the left, clearly standing on the left. Again, they're on

528
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: video Helloa Local Police. So the fact that Jackie pointed

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00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: out to me her body is found in the living room,

530
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: which Joe Bruno WSOCTV, that leads me to think that,

531
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: I mean, once she hit the floor, she couldn't move anymore.

532
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: They severed her spine. It looks like in the video

533
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 1: did they drag her into the living room to make

534
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 1: it appear as if she had been in there, not

535
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,959
Speaker 1: that they woke her up and then started to attack her, Joe,

536
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: because Jackie's telling me that she's found on the living

537
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 1: room floor and that's from the autopsy report, right, yeah, yeah,

538
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 1: it is. She's right. What does that say to you,

539
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 1: Joe Bruno? Oh? When is she found with her clothes on? Her? Off? Off?

540
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: Still off? Joe Bruno? Yeah, you know, the medical examiners

541
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 1: report as clear as day, found in her living room,

542
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: died within fifteen minutes of her injuries. I don't have

543
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:30,399
Speaker 1: any information on whether she was closed or whether her

544
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:34,439
Speaker 1: body was moved. I do know that, and Quilla can

545
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 1: also talk about this, that she had bumps on her face,

546
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: her lips were cut. She clearly, clearly was showing signs

547
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: of severe injury when she died. Severe spinal cord injury

548
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 1: and at las luxation. That's what it says on the

549
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: autopsi report, and that's what doctor Gallagher's describing and also

550
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 1: says person found unconscious on her living room floor, and

551
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 1: we know her to be naked at the time of

552
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 1: the attack. Her mom told me that Chanqoela sleeps without

553
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 1: her clothes on, as many people do, and it looked

554
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: like it was by the bed and the covers were

555
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 1: thrown back. Remember the video Jackie, and it looked like

556
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,280
Speaker 1: she had just gotten up and they immediately started beating her.

557
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,760
Speaker 1: So how does she get in the living room, doctor Bethany.

558
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 1: I don't know if she was clothed or not at

559
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 1: the time the doctor's got there, but since she died

560
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: pretty quickly, I doubt it. Okay, Joe Bruno, I'm just

561
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: stimy because I'm not sure what, if anything, is happening

562
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 1: to bring this mother justice for her daughter. I mean,

563
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: I don't know if you have children, but all I

564
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: can think about is my children, one of them going

565
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: away on a girl's getaway and then suddenly I got

566
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: a call she's dead. It's incredibly frustrating to not be

567
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 1: able to provide a lot of information or even have

568
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: an inkling of what's going on. I hold on to

569
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,760
Speaker 1: the fact that I do find that business card tape

570
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: to the door associated with one of the people that

571
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: went on this trip. And also this case has captivated

572
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: Charlotte and really the world. Millions of people are watching this.

573
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 1: Hundreds of people showed up to a vigil for Chinquola

574
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 1: over the weekend. Black social media users in particular are

575
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:28,879
Speaker 1: demanding justice and keeping this story alive and we are

576
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:33,080
Speaker 1: trying to do just that. Another vigil over the weekend

577
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:37,800
Speaker 1: where Chinquola's mother is just twisted in half with pain.

578
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 1: Joe Bruno, who is responsible for the arrest Charlotte PD

579
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 1: or brand Jump in the FBI? Who should be arresting

580
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 1: these people that were involved in her death? Oh Nancy,

581
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 1: Any law enforcement Once the extradition warrant is issued, any

582
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: law enforcement agency can execute the warrant. It could be

583
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 1: the local PD, it could be the FBI, it could

584
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: be the US Marshall Service, and more unlikely will go

585
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: to a task force made up of everyone that I

586
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 1: just said to locate a fugitive and take them into custody.

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00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: If you have information about the so called friends that

588
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 1: stood by and watch or the one that beat her

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00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:31,760
Speaker 1: until she's dead. Eight eight eight four zero seven forty

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Speaker 1: seven forty seven repeat toll free eight eight eight four

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Speaker 1: zero seven forty seven