1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,719 Speaker 1: Rudy went on Twitter and said, quote, it is sad 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: to see someone that has accomplished as much as you 3 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 1: did Shack still be triggered by another man's finances and accomplishments. 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 1: You don't need that stuff to stay relevant. 5 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 2: You're making two fifty play hard, That's all I'm saying, 6 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 2: Ben Simmons, you're making fifty million, is your play fucking hard. 7 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 2: I'm looking at these camera guys here who do working 8 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 2: ass off. They don't get to see a million fucking 9 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 2: the game up, and you're gonna fuck up this thing 10 00:00:23,360 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 2: of ours. Jordan and Doctor j paid the way for 11 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 2: me to make a hundred million. I paid the way 12 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 2: for y'all. You making two hundred million. Fucking play hard. 13 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 2: That's all I asked for. When somebody dunk on, you 14 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 2: don't grab their fucking knees and put your head between 15 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 2: his motherfucking legs. That's what the fuck I'm talking about. Yeah, 16 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 2: I do a pig, big big, pull me to wig. 17 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 2: I never pig. 18 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 1: Big, big, singing it a cad. 19 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 2: I ne a pig big big, come put me to win. 20 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: I never pig big, big, singing it a cad. 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That's what I'm fucking talking about, 60 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: The Big Fella. You've been all over the place and 61 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 1: season one ended and I just wanted to catch up 62 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: your summer, whether you've been DJing. You're the one one 63 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: of the few people in this world that if I asked, 64 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: what did you do last Wednesday? I don't think you'd 65 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,519 Speaker 1: have any idea. What have you been doing these last 66 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: few weeks? 67 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 2: I've been DJing, been talking trash, causing trouble. Apparently I 68 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 2: got beef for two people. We will get to that. Yes. 69 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 2: Other than that, I've just been, you know, having a 70 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 2: good time and enjoying the family life. And I've been 71 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 2: in Croatia, I've been to Poland. I've been to China. 72 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 2: I've been to Afghanistan. I've been I've been to Czechoslovakia. 73 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 2: I've been to Slovenia. I've been all over the place. 74 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: Do we have a new leader of the clubhouse? For 75 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: which country enjoys DJ Diesel the most? 76 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 2: Poland was cracking. Poland was cracking. Hey man, one of 77 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 2: my favorite people in the world. Just just stick them. Come on, 78 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 2: do you dig? Come join us? One of my favorite 79 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 2: people in the world just stepped in. Ours you down 80 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 2: as sexy man haslam boy? That boy body fat looking right? 81 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 2: Don't check my body fat? What's up? Brother? Much respect? 82 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 2: How you don't have a seat If you want to know, 83 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 2: you're not obligated how you been. I'm being good, my brother. 84 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 2: You're looking good, you know. But yeah, I just. 85 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 4: Spent a long time ago get my affairs in order 86 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 4: before I retire. 87 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 2: I've been watching you. You're looking good. Thank you, thank you, 88 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 2: thank you. You like my Oh that's me, man, I 89 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 2: thought it was you. Man. I appreciate that, big dog, 90 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 2: I really do. Man. You don't know well, you know, 91 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 2: but I love you, brother, I respect you, not you, 92 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 2: big fellow. 93 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 1: I think it's a perfect time to use the Ultimate teammate, 94 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: brought to you by Zip Recruider Shack. Now's the time. 95 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: Is Eudonna's hazelm the ultimate teammate? 96 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 2: Yes he is. He's the consummate professional, worked way harder 97 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 2: than I did. Love him, would not have them before 98 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:57,480 Speaker 2: it without him. We had a special relationship because one 99 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 2: thing I always try to do was play the game 100 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 2: the right way. They always used to look at you 101 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 2: d like, oh, he can't shoot that jumper. So I 102 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 2: used to tell him cut to the basket. I'm gonna 103 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 2: get it to you. So you know, he'd work his 104 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 2: ass off while I'm getting double triple team. He'd get 105 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 2: the rebound. But every time he cut I tried to 106 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:14,720 Speaker 2: you know, make sure his hard work paid off. So 107 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 2: is he the ultimate teammate? Yes, And he'll tell you 108 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 2: a couple of times, after partying too much, he'll come 109 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 2: to the come to the thing, be like hey, big 110 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 2: big fellow, you fucking bullshiting, and like I would have 111 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:27,800 Speaker 2: to step up and that's what you need. And see, 112 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 2: like I always tell people, even with me and Kobe 113 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 2: y'all think we had differences, it was always respectful coming 114 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 2: to me saying, big fellow, you fucking around when I 115 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 2: got two points and we don't play nine minutes. That's 116 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 2: not disrespectful. That's that's like, hey man, you fucking around, 117 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 2: Like we need you, we rely on you. So he 118 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 2: was always that one, and he was a guy that 119 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 2: I never had to say anything to, Like I really 120 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 2: didn't have that my hooker. I used to have to 121 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 2: fucking babysit people and check people and pump people up, 122 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 2: and like, for example, with the rudeo bear, y'all think 123 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 2: I'm being personal, I'm just trying to pump them up. 124 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 2: But obviously with his his the fucking way he responds, 125 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 2: I could tell he see that there's some truth in 126 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. 127 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: You did a video on Complex with your son Miles, 128 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: who's killing it right now in the DJ game, and 129 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: he asked you, who's the worst NBA player of all time? 130 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 1: You said, Rudy Gobert, also said Ben Simmons. Then Rudy 131 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: went on Twitter and said, quote, it is sad to 132 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 1: see someone that has accomplished as much as you did Shack, 133 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: both in sport and business, still be triggered by another 134 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:29,359 Speaker 1: man's finances and accomplishments. I get the entertainment part, but 135 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: unlike other folks, you don't need that stuff to stay relevant. 136 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 2: When I made the comments about Rudy Gobert, people think 137 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 2: it's personal. Yeah, it is personal for guys like David 138 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 2: Robinson who only made one hundred and sixteen million, fabulous 139 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 2: fucking player. Hall of Famer Kareem most he ever made 140 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 2: with three million, Patrick Ewan one hundred and twelve million, 141 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 2: Alonso more. How much Eloneso making his career? Did you 142 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 2: make a hundred me? I don't know, That's what I'm saying. 143 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 2: Bill Russell one hundred thousand, Kevin McHale fourteen millions. So 144 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 2: when I talk about big men and the way they play, 145 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:03,799 Speaker 2: just fucking play hard, man. You're making two fifties. Play hard, 146 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 2: That's all I'm saying, Ben Simmons, you're making fifty million, 147 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 2: is your play fucking hard. I'm looking at these camera 148 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 2: guys here who are working their ass off. They don't 149 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 2: get to see a million. You're fucking the game up, 150 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 2: and you're gonna fuck up this thing of ours, the 151 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 2: things that that that that that people like like Jordan 152 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 2: and doctor j paid the way for me to make 153 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 2: a hundred million. I paid the way for y'all. You're 154 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 2: making two hundred million. Fucking play hard. That's all I 155 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 2: asked for. When somebody dunk on you don't grab their 156 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 2: fucking knees and put your head between his motherfucking legs. 157 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 2: That's what the fuck I'm talking about. So you want 158 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 2: to respond, this is my fucking response back, play hard, 159 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 2: and you goddamn right, you're gonna suck it up for 160 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 2: the for the next because right now everybody's making lie, 161 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 2: everybody eating good. But you know what somebody gonna say, 162 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 2: you know what, we overpaying these motherfuckers. It's time to 163 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 2: fucking bring it back, and it's gonna be all your fault. 164 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 2: So I challenge you to motherfuckers and fuck all those 165 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 2: individual accolades. You're talking about winning championship. That's what we 166 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 2: do over here. We win champion. Fuck. I don't care 167 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 2: about no MVP or no defensive plaity and funk. All 168 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 2: that win the championship, make your city proud. You want 169 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 2: to impress me? Thank you? 170 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: That was great? 171 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 2: Watch this? You d what if he was on my team? 172 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 2: What would I have done him? You did? Tell you? 173 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 2: What would I have done him? In practice or in 174 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 2: the locker room? I say something and he said that 175 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 2: what you just said in the locker room. Probably put 176 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 2: them hands on Thank you. Probably put them hands on them. 177 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 2: Thank you. 178 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 4: This is the fact I've seen this. See I tried 179 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 4: to stop it. 180 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 2: Listen, people know me. It may sound personal, but it's motivation. 181 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 2: That's all less that just motivation. 182 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 4: What I will say, and having somebody like you, you know, 183 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 4: every day in my ear, and you know, having an 184 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 4: expectation of me, and you know, letting me know what 185 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 4: the expectation is, regardless of what other people might have 186 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 4: thought about me when I got into the league. When 187 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 4: you have a great player that has the expectation and 188 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 4: the belief in you, then that just helps you believe 189 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 4: in yourself. And then it helps you those same expectations 190 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 4: of yourself. So you know what you doing that for me? 191 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 4: That helped me be the teammate that I was because 192 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 4: I knew you had an expectation for me, and I 193 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 4: wasn't trying to let you down. That's the last thing 194 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 4: I wanted to do as a teammate. Fuck what I 195 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 4: had my personal goes. I don't want to let Shack down. 196 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:15,839 Speaker 4: Shack need me, Shack believes in me. I got to 197 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 4: be there for a big feather. 198 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 2: And then, like you know, like some people listen, but 199 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 2: if you're in this thing about you, it's supposed to 200 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 2: listen to what I'm really saying. I'm talking about your money. 201 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 2: I'm talking about you protecting the money because my agent 202 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 2: always told me, Okay, it's good to get the money, 203 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 2: but can you get the renewals? And the way he playing, 204 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 2: he's not getting. 205 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 1: A renewal to knowing you, Shack, and to knowing what you. 206 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 1: Donna's just said. What I think Rudy made a mistake 207 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,959 Speaker 1: in his rebuttal was he thinks that you're saying this 208 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 1: because you were cloud to be a talking head that 209 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 1: stays relevant. 210 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 2: There's an expectation I got fifteen commercials running right now, dummy. 211 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 5: When you take it, I think I think I wish 212 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:55,320 Speaker 5: could understand is that if you if Shaq is talking 213 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 5: about you, it means that he really wants you to 214 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 5: get more out of the potential that you have, and that. 215 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 2: And protect the money for all the big men. 216 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: To inspire these guys, they just they think they think 217 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: it's like bullying ship. 218 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 2: And then see, you know it is. It's twenty twenty four. 219 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 2: They want me to talk. I don't talk soft and 220 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:16,560 Speaker 2: I'm glad, and I'm glad I went out of the 221 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 2: game when when I was because like some of these players, 222 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 2: they were on my team, I'd have to put hands 223 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 2: on them. 224 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 4: I mean, when you when you take home, you know, 225 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 4: the Defensive Player of the Year trophy, that's an expectation 226 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 4: from you. You know, that's just what it fucking comes with. 227 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 4: And if you don't want that expectation, then lead a trophy, 228 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 4: don't take the trophy. But there's a fucking expectation. A 229 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 4: defensive player the year does not need no help. The 230 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 4: defensive player of the Year should be able to guard his 231 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 4: fucking yard every single time against somebody, whether it be 232 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 4: the best player in the NBA or the worst fucking 233 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 4: player in the NBA. You don't expect the defensive player 234 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 4: the year to need help in any circumstance of any situation. 235 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 4: You also don't expect the defensive player of the year 236 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:54,359 Speaker 4: to be the guy that's picked on in certain situations. 237 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 4: So that's just the expectation that we have. 238 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: Or is or is deemed unplayable in the playoffs. 239 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 4: So that's the expectation that people have of the defensive 240 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 4: player of the year. 241 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:06,439 Speaker 2: It's not about Rudy Gobert. 242 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 4: It's about You've got that motherfucker trophy every year and 243 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 4: we have an expectation of you. So it's not about you. 244 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 4: It's not personal. It's the motherfucker that holds that trophy. 245 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,079 Speaker 4: And I would say the same thing if it was 246 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:16,560 Speaker 4: somebody else that took that trophy home. 247 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 2: If you got that. 248 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 4: Motherfucker trophy and nobody be looking at you talking about 249 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 4: you need some help. 250 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 2: Thank you. That's all I'm saying. And let me let 251 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 2: me address irrelevance thing. I never wanted to be relevant. 252 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 2: You know what I wanted in my life. I wanted 253 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 2: to be able to walk my mother in any story 254 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 2: and say get what you want. Walk my mother in 255 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 2: any neighborhood and say pick a house that you want. 256 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:37,440 Speaker 2: Walk my mother to any car dealership and say, get 257 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,040 Speaker 2: picked any car you want. You think I'll give a 258 00:11:39,040 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 2: fuck about being famous, I do not. So the only 259 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 2: thing I care about I want to be able to 260 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 2: my kids. Said that I want to go to Harvard. Okay, 261 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 2: we don't need no scholarship. I pay for it. 262 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 4: You used to drive around Afford toaurus Is and shit, 263 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 4: so people they know it was you, exactly, remember that. 264 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 2: Get that shit out of here. 265 00:11:58,280 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 4: Feller's start with that shit. 266 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 2: Yeah I did. I had for real, like because like 267 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 2: when I first got here, it was just so. 268 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 4: Much Bmwhitlit called many mini speakers. 269 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 2: I had a mini But you know I don't bro 270 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm I'm telling you this to help you. 271 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,239 Speaker 2: And if you don't want my help, that's not my problem. 272 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: And it's it's a similar thing about Ben Simmons, but 273 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:29,520 Speaker 1: that's another one for another day. 274 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 2: Yes, because when you're a player and you're in this thing, 275 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 2: we see what happens. Been as sensitive, right, he came 276 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 2: in with a lot of high play nobody, but when 277 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 2: he got exposed, right, we saw it, right you we 278 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 2: saw it. We saw like when he didn't want to 279 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 2: shoot in Atlanta and he kept passing the ball and 280 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 2: everybody's jumping on him. He got exposed. Now, the back thing, 281 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 2: I let that go the first year. I'm not letting 282 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 2: that go three years in a row. This is twenty 283 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 2: twenty four. You got shots, you got pills, you got treatment. 284 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 2: I don't want to hear that shit. And I can 285 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 2: tell when he came back, and when you know he 286 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 2: came back and played, he's afraid of what people are 287 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 2: going to say about him. So he's still he's still 288 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 2: in shock mode. So again, he didn't play last year. 289 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 2: And again, what do you do? You say? My back hurt, 290 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 2: Like everybody knows in this world, the back injury is 291 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 2: a thing that you can't really check. But your back 292 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,199 Speaker 2: ain't been hurting that fucking long. Because while you're not playing, 293 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 2: you're supposed to be doing fucking rehab. This is twenty 294 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 2: twenty four. That's all I'm saying. 295 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,319 Speaker 1: I have a question for both of you, because you're 296 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 1: both one of ones. You're both uncommon. I think most people, 297 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: when they go on a big stage or they're facing something, 298 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 1: they do have fear. I feel like you guys are 299 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: both very good at facing fear. Have you ever been 300 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 1: on a team or witnessed other players that get overwhelmed 301 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: by fear, Because I know it's hard for you guys 302 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: to understand because you can compartmentalize and play through it. 303 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: But have you seen that fear overtake other professional athletes. 304 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 2: I don't know if you're remember this, but you was 305 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:03,319 Speaker 2: in the bathroom at the time. I'm not going to 306 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 2: call the player out no matter. We're going against Detroit 307 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 2: and they're fucking killing us, and I'm in the bathroom 308 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:11,959 Speaker 2: when the player comes in and be like, man, I 309 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 2: ain't got it. I ain't gotta be fit, I ain't 310 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 2: got it. And I said, don't worry about just fucking 311 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 2: call the player and just throw me the ball. I 312 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 2: take care. Yeah, I've seen a lot of guys like 313 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 2: get over there, and you have to listen. I was 314 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 2: scared all the time. Remember that time during the finals 315 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 2: when I got when Jerry's tech house five men, I 316 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 2: had to shoot those two free throws. Scared oft time 317 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 2: of my life. Yeah, scared oft time of my life. Yeah, 318 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 2: because I know if I don't fucking make these I'm 319 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 2: fucking done, but he did. But guess what, you can 320 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 2: be scared all you want. You got ten seconds to 321 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 2: shoot the motherfucking freethos, so just let it go. The 322 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 2: first one went, Now I'm confident. And then that second 323 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 2: one went and the crowd went crazy. Now I got 324 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 2: my fucking powers back. I'm always scared. I'm just fucking 325 00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 2: scared every day. But you have to face it. Like hey, like, 326 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 2: if you let that, you let that overwhelm you, you'll 327 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 2: have making I'm every time I went to the free 328 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 2: throw line to pressure situation, especially in the finals, I 329 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 2: was terrified because I know, I know if I miss something, 330 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 2: we lose, it's gonna always be my fuck. Yeah, it's 331 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 2: gonna always be my fuck. 332 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 4: I mean, my my life has been based off just 333 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 4: facing my fears and facing the things that have challenged me. 334 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 4: So when I got to the NBA, I have been 335 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 4: battle tested so much. By the time I got to 336 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 4: the NBA, it was that was that was just basketball. 337 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 4: It was real life that I had been dealing with 338 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 4: up until that point. So for me, it was never 339 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 4: an issue to face my fears or to conquer my fears. 340 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 4: But I have seen guys be overwhelmed by the moment. 341 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 4: You know, they might not say it, but they have 342 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 4: that fucking deer in the headlights look on their face, 343 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 4: and you know it when you see it as a player, 344 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 4: you know when the guy's not there that night. 345 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 2: So every time I came to a new team, I 346 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 2: tested and ud passed the test the first day. So 347 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 2: you get the rebounds, yeah, first day because like, because 348 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 2: like I'm a I'm a I'm a I'm a pseudo psychologist, 349 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 2: I got to know who the fuck I'm dealing with, right, 350 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 2: so you did get the rebound. Motherfucker Big fel ain't 351 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 2: gonna be too many more motherfuckers. Now, I know he hard. 352 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 2: He with me. I already know he with me. He 353 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 2: don't get a fuck about this shack he like and 354 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 2: then he and and fucking then he added some shit 355 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 2: to it. Don't forget where you at, big fellow. I 356 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 2: was like, what the fuck that means? He's like, I'm 357 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 2: from Miami. I was like, okay, I know, not the 358 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 2: fuck with him. He with me. Let me go to 359 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 2: the next player, because, like you know, a lot of guys, 360 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 2: you gotta you want him to be tough. They ain't tough. 361 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 2: You gotta fucking get him tough, and you gotta keep 362 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 2: going until they either become tough, until they fall. You 363 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 2: d passed that shit the first day. Other guys, you 364 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 2: just gotta fucking just you know, just fucking stay on them. 365 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 4: But that's true leadership. I think that's true leadership. As 366 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 4: a leader, even if a guy is not tough, if 367 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 4: you can get a guy to think that he's tough 368 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 4: just for those forty eight minutes that night, if he 369 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 4: can embody the same mentality as a guy like you 370 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 4: or a guy like myself, then that's what true leadership is. 371 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 2: As soon as he said that, because you know, you know, 372 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 2: he said that shit to me like you, usually I 373 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 2: get a yo, man, get the rebound mother full on 374 00:16:54,360 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 2: saying that. But he said that. Soon as I say, 375 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 2: get the motherfucking reminder, he said, big fellow' gonna be 376 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 2: too many more motherfuckers that don't forget. Yeah, don't forget 377 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 2: where you at, big dog. I was, so, you know, 378 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 2: we we kind of playing, but we're talking, and ship 379 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 2: don't forgive you what the fuck that means. I know 380 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 2: you was at my fucking mansion last name, but people 381 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 2: saw you. I was like, oh no, I didn't know 382 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 2: every what you did. I didn't know every way you 383 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 2: used to leave us motherfucker alone? You do? 384 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,120 Speaker 1: You saying that about leadership made me realize something. When 385 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: you hear people complain about their bosses, they say that 386 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:27,760 Speaker 1: shit on day one. If you've got a bad boss, 387 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: people are complaining day one. You really don't realize good 388 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: leadership until sometimes years later, Like when when Kobe was 389 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 1: running the show in LA. While it was happening, people 390 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: were like, he's crazy. Whatever. Now five ten years later, 391 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: people sit back and they go, he pushed me to 392 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: a level that I didn't even know I could get to. Yes, 393 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: And and you know, I hear Steph and what he 394 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,719 Speaker 1: has to do in Golden State, and we just assume 395 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 1: that all professional athletes are have the trainer and have 396 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: like four workouts a day. But it's really the special 397 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: ones that have to push and pull people. But we 398 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 1: don't realize it until after it's all over. 399 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 4: Well, my my take on that is just the definition 400 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 4: of a franchise player to me in today's basketball game 401 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 4: has changed. To me, guys keep saying we need help. 402 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 4: The definition of a franchise player in my error when 403 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 4: I look back to Shaq, and I look back to 404 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 4: Lebron and I look back to Duwayne. They raised the 405 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 4: fucking level of everybody around them. They didn't keep going 406 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 4: back and say we need help. Motherfucker, you make it 407 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 4: two hundred million, ain't no more money left to pay 408 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 4: nobody else, but you keep saying you need help. The 409 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 4: definition of a franchise player when I was playing was 410 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 4: these type of motherfuckers who raised the level of the 411 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 4: guys around them. They didn't say they need help. I'm 412 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 4: gonna make the motherfuckers I got good enough. I'm gonna 413 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 4: make I got believed. I'm gonna make these guys believe 414 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 4: that they're good enough for we can win it. So 415 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 4: it was just a different mentality from these guys as 416 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 4: a franchise player and what these guys keep saying they 417 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 4: need help, And I'm like, motherfuck ain't no more money. 418 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 2: You took it off? All right? 419 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 1: Let me ask one more thing because I know we're 420 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 1: in a tight schedule, but I want to get this in. 421 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: Shaq has said before that he is the fifty cent 422 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: of the NBA shack you saw, but fifty Cent was 423 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: recently on The Colbert Show and he apparently is celibate 424 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:20,880 Speaker 1: right now talking about it, saying, listen, when you calm down, 425 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,919 Speaker 1: you can focus. It's been good. I've been good to me. 426 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 1: He also went on to say it's tough out here 427 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 1: for different reasons. You go on a date and you know, 428 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 1: goddamn girl quote you find, but you ain't got nothing 429 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 1: else going on. You know what people want from you 430 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,360 Speaker 1: because you are the fifty cent of the NBA. Are 431 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: you prepared to maybe go celibate and to not have 432 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: that as part of your life for a little bit. 433 00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 2: It's a nice candy right here. 434 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 4: It's a nice shack, delicious. 435 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:59,160 Speaker 2: It's just really good. It's a nice guy, Jack. 436 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 1: How long do you I think you could go? Two days? 437 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 2: I'm disciplined. I can go as long as I want. 438 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: Really, should we do a podcast? 439 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 2: Bet no, because you're not gonna be able to to 440 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 2: watch me. 441 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 4: Just tell you one thing, big fellow, use it, you'll 442 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 4: lose it. 443 00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 2: Good point. 444 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 4: Oh, you go too long trying to prove something and 445 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 4: then wake up one day and you can't prove nothing 446 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 4: to yourself. 447 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:24,640 Speaker 2: So, uh, what's the case? 448 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 1: What do you think about fifty doing this? 449 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 2: Lit'ten each his own and yes to each his own. 450 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 2: I'm happy for fifty is a really good personal friend 451 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 2: of mine. And if he's serious about it, and this 452 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 2: is going to help enrich his life and help him, 453 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 2: you know, develop to be even a more spectacle, I've 454 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 2: never no, Listen, I met fifty cent when we both 455 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 2: were trying to build the team to buy b E 456 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 2: T very very brilliant. I thought I was brilliant. This man, 457 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 2: this man, like when I walked in room with all 458 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 2: the guys I expected to take over, this man took 459 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 2: over the meeting. And since then we've been cool. But again, 460 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 2: if this is gonna help him get better, because I 461 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 2: don't know if I told you, just hold you know, 462 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 2: it comes next what fifty four, which means in ten summers, 463 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 2: you're gonna be my age, and in ten summers I'm 464 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 2: gonna be sixty two. So and he's next ten summers 465 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 2: stress free. Whatever I gotta do to make that stress free. 466 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:25,199 Speaker 2: Fifties is around that age. So if this is his 467 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 2: spiritual enlightenment, I understand. 468 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, that happened with Deshaun Jackson. 469 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 2: Yes, listen, Deshawn's Deshaun kept it g because I saw 470 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 2: I saw a beautiful girl, I hit he hit me 471 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,239 Speaker 2: right away. I apologize, like, my bad, I didn't know. 472 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 2: There's you know, a lot of time when these girls post, 473 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 2: they don't post their guys. So I just say and again, 474 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 2: I don't be flirting. I just be sending flowers like 475 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:50,400 Speaker 2: be beautiful. Like if I'm walking, let's see a beautiful 476 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 2: girl from from Cuba, I say hello, Meeta be like, 477 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 2: that's just I'm not flirting. I'm just saying you're beautiful. 478 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,199 Speaker 2: I ain't see she keep going so like when I 479 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 2: when I called jumping the DM, I'm sitting hard. I'm 480 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 2: just saying you're beautiful, Like listen, I'm gonna see you. 481 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 2: I'm on the phone doing this every day. If I 482 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 2: see a beautiful girl, I say heart so. 483 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: All right, last thing from me, Shaq. One of one 484 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: of the other things that you've done these last few 485 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,719 Speaker 1: weeks is you sat courtside for Angel Reese Caitlin Clark, 486 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: and you left and you went she's cold. She always 487 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 1: makes the right past, Caitlyn Clark. This it doesn't have 488 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: to be one or the other. Uh, it's it. And 489 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: now we're welcoming Angel Reese under your podcast network, which 490 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: is really exciting. Congratulations to you, to all of by 491 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: you Nation and all of LSU fans. It's really cool. 492 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: But I feel like that was an interesting experience for 493 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:45,479 Speaker 1: you to see Caitlyn Clark in person. 494 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 2: No, because well, one, let's not get a twisted I'm 495 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 2: an angel all day. No, why do you have to 496 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 2: pick but mom? But because because like I don't want 497 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,680 Speaker 2: people to to turn it one way, and then she 498 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 2: thinks I'm turning my back on her. Like for example, NFL, 499 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 2: I'm Cowboys, it ain't nothing to talk about. W NBA, 500 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 2: I'm angel all day. Now, I'm not shack. I'm a fan. 501 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,399 Speaker 2: Caitlin plays the right way. I've seen her on TV 502 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 2: and a lot of times we know that you know 503 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 2: on TV don't really translate to the court all the time. 504 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 2: So I saw it. She makes the right play every time, 505 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,439 Speaker 2: not all the time. She makes her teammates better, she 506 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 2: shoot the ball, She's a great player. But I'm Angel 507 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 2: Reese all day. Don't ever get a twisted angel. 508 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: Reesa and Kayleen Clark would play so well together. 509 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 2: I don't want them together. I want them to battle 510 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 2: against each other because right now we're up, Like you know, 511 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 2: like I didn't come in with UD. I came in 512 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 2: with Alonzo. You know what I'm saying. So like we 513 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 2: you know, we had our own personal bats. So in 514 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:49,679 Speaker 2: college we got the championship. They didn't. So now you know, 515 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,919 Speaker 2: the storyline could be Indiana's in the playoffs Chicago. Like, 516 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 2: it's a whole bunch of storylines and I think is 517 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 2: very interesting. I think, and I think it has definitely 518 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 2: elevated the women's game. But don't don't don't, don't make 519 00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,360 Speaker 2: no mistake about it. I'm Angel result one thing. 520 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: My one thing is all the disgusting people that are 521 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 1: in Angel Reese's DMS talking ship. My only clarification is 522 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: I don't think that they're Caitlin Clark fans. I just 523 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: think that they're assholes. 524 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 2: Listen, she's a dog. They don't care. She don't care 525 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,120 Speaker 2: about that. And guess what she got, shacky wacky. 526 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 1: I'm always like, that's you. 527 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 2: That's me. So like if she wants to call and complain, 528 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 2: I'm the ear and I tell her the same thing 529 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 2: I tell my kid. All this ship you're going through, 530 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 2: I got all the answers because I invented it. 531 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 1: In that I'm saying, I thought, I thought shacky wacky 532 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: is the name of your new weed strain. 533 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 2: That you're gonna. First of all, I don't do that. 534 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,159 Speaker 2: I'm a role model, so stop it. I know. 535 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 1: But you're a businessman. 536 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 2: No, I don't do that. Oh big hoop. I like that. 537 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 1: I like that big hookah. That's good, six foot high hookahs. 538 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 2: All right, you do. 539 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: You're the fucking man I always love. 540 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 2: I appreciate you, all right, love you. Thanks for coming on, Brodley. 541 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 2: My day I was a family. Everybody good, lighty good, now, 542 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 2: mighty good. 543 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,919 Speaker 1: Check our buddies over at DraftKings Sportsbook want us to 544 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 1: take a look at some bigger bets for the season. 545 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: And I think it's appropriate because you are a Dallas 546 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 1: Cowboys fan and I'm a Philadelphia Eagles fan, and both 547 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: of our teams, at least after Week one were undefeated. 548 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,400 Speaker 1: Who is going to win the division? Here are the odds. 549 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,439 Speaker 1: The Eagles are the favorite at minus one thirty, and 550 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: Dallas's odds have improved after the win. They are plus 551 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: one twenty. So if you bet one hundred, if you 552 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: bet on Dallas and they win, you get one twenty. 553 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 1: If you bet one hundred on the Eagles and they win, 554 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 1: you get like eighty five. Who a you going with. 555 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,679 Speaker 2: I'm going with the Cowboys. And if the Cowboys win 556 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 2: the division, you got to do a segment in a tank. 557 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 1: Top in a tank tab. So why are you so 558 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,399 Speaker 1: obsessed with me showing my shoulders? 559 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 2: Not? I just want you to know that the Eagles 560 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 2: are nuts superior when it comes to the Cowboys, they're 561 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:06,960 Speaker 2: in superior? Is that a word in superior? Uh? This 562 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 2: shit sounded good, so it doesn't matter. That's what I said, inferior. 563 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 2: I just had some of these. I just had some 564 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 2: of these shack delicious goomies in my mouth, pauls and 565 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:20,719 Speaker 2: I couldn't pronunciate. 566 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: How about this, Let's open this up to the comments section. 567 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: Shaq and I will have an NFC East bet this year. 568 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 1: Come up with what the punishment should be, not because 569 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, like you wearing a tech tup, you 570 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: were a tech toup all the time. What should the 571 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 1: punishment be for the loser of the NFC East? 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We need Shack to be going around. 592 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 2: Not interest Snoop's territory. If Snoop calls me, I'll do it. 593 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 2: But hey, a Snoop territory is Dre's territory. I'll leave 594 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 2: it up to them. 595 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: What is also Shack's territory? Though, is the world of 596 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 1: music and dancing, and for the first time ever, they 597 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: had break dancing at the Olympics. And while there were 598 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:02,199 Speaker 1: amazing dancers that put on incredible performances, the one that 599 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 1: everyone talked about was ray Gun, a woman dancer from 600 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 1: Australia who did kangaroo hops and toddler moves on the ground. 601 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,000 Speaker 2: Leave that lady alone. That was and it. 602 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:18,439 Speaker 1: Spread so much that now breakdancing is no longer in 603 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 1: the Olympic. People believe she's single handedly removed break dancing 604 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 1: from the Olympics. You are our dancing music guy, What 605 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: did you think. 606 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 2: That was her style? You never laugh at a person's style. 607 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 2: I know this kid. His name is Adam Savanni. Check 608 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 2: out Adam style. See like If you look at Adam, 609 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 2: he looks like one of his his nickname is Moose. 610 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 2: If you look at Adam, he looks like a hate 611 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,239 Speaker 2: to use this word, looks like a geeky kid. But 612 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,719 Speaker 2: he has his own style, right. This woman has her 613 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 2: own style. It was I didn't like the style, but 614 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 2: she was. She was on beat, her knees were straight, 615 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 2: she didn't do any backspins or headspins. She was nineteen 616 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 2: eighty five ozone turbo poplocking. I thought it was cool. 617 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,880 Speaker 2: Probably would have got her last place. But so you 618 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 2: think she single handily room breakdance like breakdances no more. 619 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 1: It is not going to be in the Olympics next year. 620 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: You have to understand. She was also the first day, 621 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: like the women's were the first day, and that was everywhere. 622 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,760 Speaker 1: Think about it, Simone Biles the one hundred meter dash, 623 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,920 Speaker 1: Katie Ledecci and everyone's like, did you see this bro, 624 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: this woman from Australia. There was a scandal that people 625 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: thought that there's an investigation right now that they believe 626 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: that the Australian qualifiers were fixed and her friends were 627 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: on the committee to get her past people to get 628 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 1: her into the Olympics. That's how unqualified she learns. 629 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 2: You know, it's bad when people are not really breakdance 630 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 2: experts but they look at your breakdance abilities and say 631 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 2: it's bad. That's when it's bad. But I'm not going 632 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,959 Speaker 2: to make fun of that lady, just say, hey, whatever 633 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 2: your style is, you just stick with your style. 634 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, then what about this. This happened this week. 635 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: The World Dance Sport Federation literally just named her the 636 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 1: number one breakdancer in the world. 637 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 2: See see somebody likes her. Listen, she was on beat. 638 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:23,960 Speaker 2: She was on beat. Like she wasn't on beat. 639 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 1: She just received a single point from the Olympic judges. 640 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 2: Okay, because when you think of breakdancing, you think of popping. 641 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,719 Speaker 2: She like, you know, like this and some of that, 642 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 2: and you know, the ticking and the robot and you know, 643 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 2: like you think of all that stuff, the headspins and 644 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 2: the windmills, and you know, she didn't really do any 645 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 2: of that. Like the movie I was confused by. It 646 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 2: was when she got on the side and grabbed her 647 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 2: toes start weak ground. 648 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 1: I would like to remind everybody of Shack's break dancing ability. 649 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: Here was him against Lebron at All Star Weekend. Take 650 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: a look with that in mind. 651 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 2: Check. 652 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: I believe there's an opportunity here. If she's number one 653 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: in the world, would you like to officially challenge ray 654 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: Gun to a breakdance competition. 655 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 2: For her title? I would? I would. 656 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: How do we get this to go down any place, anytime. 657 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,959 Speaker 2: Any place, any time, Australia wherever she wants it? 658 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: So you're coming for the throne of number one breakdownswer 659 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 1: in the world. I am you heard it here first. 660 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 1: I'm a big pod with Shack speaking of entering arenas 661 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 1: that maybe people aren't used to. Tom Brady was calling 662 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys game against the Cleveland Browns. The reviews 663 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,960 Speaker 1: were not so hot. I read a bunch where people 664 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: say he was kind of quiet for too long. He 665 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 1: seemed uncomfortable. I remember when you first came on inside 666 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 1: the NBA. You've told the stories many times where eventually 667 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: TK are esteemed Hall of Fame producer. Can you and said, 668 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: just be yourself, stop trying to be whatever. If you 669 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 1: heard any of Tom Brady, what did you think? But 670 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 1: also what advice would you give to Tom Brady because you're 671 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: both champions that were excellent on the field and then 672 00:32:58,840 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 1: entered a new space. 673 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:04,479 Speaker 2: My advice to Tom Brady is he has G nineteen classification. 674 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 1: Or the G fourty y. 675 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 2: He is G nineteen classification. Talk about your experience, tell stories, 676 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 2: and be yourself. It's not that he was quiet, he 677 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 2: was professional. He was like because when you first come in, 678 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 2: you don't know when it's your turn. Everybody can't beat 679 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 2: Charles Barkley and just take over segments and blurt out 680 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 2: and you know, take nine minutes to answer one damn 681 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 2: question like you got gotta get used to it. So 682 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 2: this year may be tough for him, but about a 683 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 2: second and third year, he's going to be as good 684 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 2: as Troy Agman. Troy Aigman is really good, but Troy 685 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,440 Speaker 2: Aigman's Troy Aigman. When he talks about football. We believe 686 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 2: him because we know how great Troy was, especially you 687 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,880 Speaker 2: know when when Dallas was hot. Everybody knows who Tom 688 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 2: Brady is. He has G nineteen classification, which is rare. 689 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 2: It's not a lot of people on TV have G 690 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 2: nineteen classification. He has one. If Michael Jordan was to 691 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 2: step in the step in the game, he would have 692 00:33:56,320 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 2: G nineteen classification. You know Lebron when he retired and 693 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 2: you know comes to do the commentating thing, he also 694 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 2: will have G nineteen classification. So my advice to Tom 695 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 2: is be yourself. Tell a lot of stories. Tell us 696 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 2: what we don't know, tell us why, tell us why, 697 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 2: tell us why Jalen hurts over through the past the 698 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 2: other day or under through the past. Was it his 699 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,400 Speaker 2: fault or did the guy run his route through the 700 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 2: correct way? I know you can look at the plays 701 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 2: and you know, see what we can see see. Fans 702 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 2: think we know it all, but guys that have been 703 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 2: there and done that, they really know it all. That's 704 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 2: where the G fourteen and G nineteen classification comes from. 705 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,359 Speaker 1: My only question for you would be, I think what's 706 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,800 Speaker 1: annoying when you're on TV is everyone in the building 707 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 1: and your friends and family. They love to give you 708 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: advice even though they're not the ones that are doing it, 709 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 1: and so their advice doesn't really mean anything exactly. But 710 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 1: there is also that moment where like you're getting ready 711 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,359 Speaker 1: and like you go to the bathroom and you look 712 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 1: in the mirror real quick and you just kind of 713 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,239 Speaker 1: say something to yourself. Was there anything that you would 714 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,760 Speaker 1: say to yourself beginning to kind of get your mind 715 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:03,280 Speaker 1: right before you went out there? 716 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, because when I came in, I wanted to be 717 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 2: as professional as you and Ernie. I was really calling 718 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,840 Speaker 2: myself Shaq Gumble. But then TK was like, fuck that, 719 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 2: we don't need that, just be yourself, And that's when 720 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 2: I really really started to blossom because again, like you know, listen, 721 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 2: I never want to overtalk Ernie. He's the man. So 722 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 2: I'm waiting and then I'm getting ready to answer, and 723 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 2: then Fat Boy blurts out the thing, and then Kitty 724 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:27,879 Speaker 2: and then the point I was getting ready to make. 725 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 2: He comes back and says my points. So now I 726 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 2: got to oh, I got to come up with another point. 727 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:35,359 Speaker 2: So you know, it was very rough the first year, 728 00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 2: the first year and a half, but you know, once 729 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 2: I got it, and once you got our rhythm, like 730 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 2: for example, on our show, we have a rhythm because 731 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 2: one I've been working with Ernie, so I could look 732 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 2: at you and tell when you're going to be done, 733 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 2: when I should answer, when to stop, and let Candae talk. 734 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,399 Speaker 2: Shout out to Jamal, We're going to miss Jamal. Yeah, 735 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,680 Speaker 2: shout out to Jamal, We're going to miss him. I 736 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:56,400 Speaker 2: love you, Jamal. 737 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:07,400 Speaker 1: That was our rhythm. See incredibly speaking of also media, 738 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:09,319 Speaker 1: and then we're gonna get to the big topic I 739 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:17,200 Speaker 1: think is this. So there's an LSU documentary, The Money Game. 740 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 1: You produce this, of course it's my show, geez uh. 741 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,360 Speaker 1: It is a series examining the NIL era through the 742 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 1: lens of several athletes, including Gene Daniels, star quarterback that 743 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,800 Speaker 1: now was drafted number two by the Washington Commanders, Angel Reese, 744 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 1: who just broke a ton of rebounding records in the 745 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 1: w n B A and just underwent some rest surgery. 746 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,360 Speaker 1: Well wishes to her, hope she's feeling better. Livvy Dunn, 747 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 1: the big time gymnast that is also in a relationship 748 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 1: with the star pitcher of the Pittsburgh Pirates, And is 749 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:54,720 Speaker 1: it flow Johnson Flage who is half basketball player, half 750 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 1: like big time selling MC who's phenomenal. So of course 751 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,279 Speaker 1: you produce this. I was going to say, when did 752 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,479 Speaker 1: LSU become nil Mecca? But of course you probably played 753 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 1: a part in that too. 754 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 2: Yes, well it's in a Nilo meca because we have 755 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 2: the best athletes in every sport track, baseball, football, basketball. 756 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:19,719 Speaker 2: I was definitely curious on how this nil thing works, 757 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,279 Speaker 2: the inns and the outs, the ups and downs. And 758 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 2: I went to l s U and of course I 759 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 2: have a lot of friends and you know the faculty, 760 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:31,799 Speaker 2: the dean, uh, you know, the athletic director, that they 761 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 2: were all inclined to help me out with this thing. 762 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,960 Speaker 2: And you know, we would follow rules, didn't break any rules, 763 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,479 Speaker 2: we didn't ruffle any feathers. And I think it's gonna 764 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 2: be a great documentary and we're already in discussions with 765 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,360 Speaker 2: other schools. In the perfect world, I would like to 766 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 2: do a U C. L A or a USC next 767 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 2: because they have phenomenal athletes. 768 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 1: So what is it about LSU where it is located 769 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,320 Speaker 1: that it just seems like a lot of the please 770 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 1: have a lot of personality. 771 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:06,319 Speaker 2: Because it's a sports town and the town loves you 772 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:10,880 Speaker 2: good or bad. One day. Know who you are from 773 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 2: one to sixty. When it comes to football, they know 774 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 2: who you are from one to twelve. When it comes 775 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 2: to basketball, they know all the baseball players, and they 776 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 2: show you love and respect. The reason why I'm a 777 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 2: good professional athlete is because I was a pro mentally 778 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:30,759 Speaker 2: at LSU. I'd walk in and people would approach me 779 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 2: like I was Michael Jordan. So now once I became 780 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 2: the status of Michael Jordan, I know how to handle people. 781 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 2: I know how to interact with people. It's a town 782 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 2: when you play hard, they love you and respect you 783 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,759 Speaker 2: win or loose. And you know, doing football season, the 784 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 2: whole town is there. The wing basketball season, most of 785 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 2: the town is there. The wurn't baseball season, the whole 786 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 2: town is there. Doing gymnastics, the whole town is there. 787 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,319 Speaker 2: You know, it's it's very community oriented. You know. When 788 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,839 Speaker 2: I first got there, I was nervous and I went 789 00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 2: to a football game. I was like, oh my god, 790 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 2: I think I want to enjoy this. And then I 791 00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,800 Speaker 2: wasn't even a star yet. I just walk on campus. 792 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 2: Yeah that's the new for hey man, what's up? Good 793 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,440 Speaker 2: luck this year? And then once I, you know, became 794 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,200 Speaker 2: Shack and formed a little shack pack I'd seen another 795 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,640 Speaker 2: have like student had my own student checking was called 796 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 2: the Shack Pack. We had out free T shirts. It's 797 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,920 Speaker 2: just a great thing, just a great environment. It definitely 798 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 2: me It definitely prepared me for this wonderful life that 799 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 2: I live now. 800 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 1: They are so good at all sports, like their baseball 801 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,400 Speaker 1: team is a professional baseball team. 802 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 2: It sure is. 803 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,319 Speaker 1: All right, big fella. It was tough to focus on 804 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,360 Speaker 1: the game though, for opening weekend, because one of the 805 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:07,320 Speaker 1: biggest touchdown celebrations was in reference to what happened earlier 806 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 1: in the day. Tyreek Hill scores a touchdown, goes for 807 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,840 Speaker 1: one point thirty and he puts his hands behind his 808 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 1: back because dude got detained before the game on his 809 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 1: way to the stadium. A lot of video has come 810 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:27,840 Speaker 1: out him apparently violating traffic violations or traffic ordinances. Officer 811 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,880 Speaker 1: comes up, knocks on his window. Tyreek Hill takes offense 812 00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 1: to that. They're talking back and forth, pull from the car, 813 00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 1: put on the ground. Even his teammate Kalais Campbell, who 814 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 1: has won NFL Man of the Year before, was detained. 815 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,919 Speaker 1: And you're always uniquely qualified to talk about this because 816 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,439 Speaker 1: you are in law enforcement. Tyreek has said he wants 817 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,560 Speaker 1: to be in law enforcement. What was just your take 818 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:51,640 Speaker 1: on that whole situation. 819 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 2: I always talk about the word of respect. You make 820 00:40:56,360 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 2: a key point, Tyreek failed disrespected, the officer felt disrespected. 821 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,800 Speaker 2: So when you got two disrespectful dudes going at things 822 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,960 Speaker 2: abound to happen. Uh. You know, first thing you have 823 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,920 Speaker 2: to ask yourself when I get stopped this, do they 824 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 2: have a lawful reason to stop me? And apparently you 825 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 2: were driving recklessly and speeding. But you know, even then, 826 00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:23,360 Speaker 2: I think if respect is shown, respect is given. So 827 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,840 Speaker 2: I always said, if the law enforcement community in the 828 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,759 Speaker 2: community can learn to respect each other again, a lot 829 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,719 Speaker 2: of these things won't escalate to where they go. You know, 830 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,840 Speaker 2: it looks bad on both parties, but you know, it's 831 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:40,160 Speaker 2: it's all about respect. I've been in. I've been in. 832 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:47,160 Speaker 2: I've been in situations like that where negative approach, positive 833 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:52,879 Speaker 2: attitude comes the negativity. Now, dude asking one time in LA, 834 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:57,680 Speaker 2: would you get this car? Boy? I pay cash for it, sir, 835 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,440 Speaker 2: what do you drug dealer? Nope, make much more money 836 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,439 Speaker 2: than those guys. This was when I was seventeen, eighteen 837 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:08,480 Speaker 2: years old, first getting out LA. Because you gotta understand 838 00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,719 Speaker 2: another thing. You don't know what people are going through. 839 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 2: You don't know what people have been through. They got 840 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,640 Speaker 2: that thang, they got two things that could incapacitate you. 841 00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,479 Speaker 2: They got that taser, and they got that bang bang. 842 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:26,840 Speaker 2: I'm going home, got nothing in my car. Forget what 843 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,239 Speaker 2: you're going through, Forget what you're saying. I know what 844 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 2: I got to do to get out the situation. If 845 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,520 Speaker 2: I was speeding or whatever, you give me a ticket, 846 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,440 Speaker 2: we go about our day. So you know, I was 847 00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,280 Speaker 2: always taught, you know, growing up a byt the military guys. 848 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,760 Speaker 2: You definitely show respect. So even when I'm approaching negative, 849 00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,600 Speaker 2: sometimes I just show respect, and that always comes the situation. 850 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:51,440 Speaker 2: So again, when you got negative and negative, something is 851 00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:54,839 Speaker 2: bound to happen. So I hear the officer has been 852 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,879 Speaker 2: put on an administrative leave. You know, it's a lot 853 00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:01,400 Speaker 2: of Maybe he was too rough, he wasn't, but I 854 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,920 Speaker 2: just I would I would like to see the situation 855 00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,120 Speaker 2: replay with both guys being respectful. 856 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,880 Speaker 1: I was also curious this happened to him on the 857 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,920 Speaker 1: way to the stadium to play a game. If you 858 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,920 Speaker 1: could think back to your mental mindset when you're driving in, 859 00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:21,719 Speaker 1: I'm sure you were listening to certain music to get 860 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,680 Speaker 1: you in the right mind frame and all of that, 861 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,000 Speaker 1: and then out of nowhere this happens. What would that 862 00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,080 Speaker 1: experience be like for an athlete getting in the zone. 863 00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:34,439 Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna definitely be respectful, bet you somebody that's 864 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,719 Speaker 2: making our job to a lot easier. And then just 865 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 2: you know, hear what they got to say. And again, 866 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:44,000 Speaker 2: I've been I've been approached respectfully and disrespectfully, and my 867 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 2: mentality is to always get out of the situation. You know. 868 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,040 Speaker 2: My thing is what what I would do is I 869 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:53,759 Speaker 2: was I would always be nice. So now that I'm 870 00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 2: nice to this one guy, guess what he's going to 871 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,760 Speaker 2: tell the rest of the cops. Man, I stopped shocked 872 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,319 Speaker 2: the other day. He was so cool, So well, now 873 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:04,040 Speaker 2: next time I get stopped, it's seventy percent chance I 874 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:07,319 Speaker 2: may get a break. And I'm not saying, you know, 875 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,719 Speaker 2: bow down to them in any way. But hey, man, 876 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:14,920 Speaker 2: I apologize I was speeding. You say I was speeding, Okay, 877 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:16,439 Speaker 2: my bad. I'm just trying to get to the game 878 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:20,759 Speaker 2: license registration. Oh you're Tyreek Hill guarantee this guy was 879 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:24,319 Speaker 2: the Dolphins man guarantee you to let him go. Hey, 880 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,320 Speaker 2: slow down, my bad. I'm just trying to get to 881 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,759 Speaker 2: the game. I got you, you know, just respectfully. So 882 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:33,239 Speaker 2: you know, I don't know the whole situation. I've seen it, 883 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:36,760 Speaker 2: everybody's seen it. I just know, you know, when man 884 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,920 Speaker 2: respects man, positive things happen. 885 00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,680 Speaker 1: Look, the video is not funny, but one thing I 886 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,799 Speaker 1: think is funny is Tyreek kept calling the officer twin, 887 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,560 Speaker 1: and it's like that's what I guess people call each 888 00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,200 Speaker 1: other now, like come on, twin, and I was like, 889 00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:53,720 Speaker 1: they're the opposite of twins. 890 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,000 Speaker 2: I just know I'm not going to I'm not going 891 00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,080 Speaker 2: to speak on this situation. I'm sure it was a 892 00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,840 Speaker 2: tough situation for him, but I just know, when it 893 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:04,720 Speaker 2: comes to man, you show man respect usually eighty percent 894 00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,480 Speaker 2: of the time, man, shows your respect back. So again 895 00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,839 Speaker 2: he probably felt violated when the guy was banging on 896 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,680 Speaker 2: his window. Listen, that's the five hundred dollar the dollar car, 897 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,000 Speaker 2: so I can understand you banging all that. Yeah, so 898 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,560 Speaker 2: now hey man, what you're doing? And then you heard 899 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,320 Speaker 2: what I said, So now it's you know, it's boom 900 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 2: and bam and then you know that that happens. I 901 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,760 Speaker 2: just know that me personally, I've been in that situation before. 902 00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,440 Speaker 2: And again I'm not trying to get tase or shot 903 00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,440 Speaker 2: because again you don't know what you don't know what 904 00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,160 Speaker 2: those guys have you been through. 905 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:38,839 Speaker 1: I think the tough thing for me and we'll move 906 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:42,799 Speaker 1: on after this is I think everyone knows right now, 907 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,680 Speaker 1: like when that happens, be on your best behavior, like 908 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,640 Speaker 1: keep it tight, get out of there. But also it's 909 00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:52,120 Speaker 1: like the officers kind of it's in their job description 910 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:56,680 Speaker 1: to de escalate, you know, they shouldn't be says. 911 00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's and I agree, and that's why I said 912 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:02,239 Speaker 2: two rooms don't correct. You know, I'm not here to 913 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:05,279 Speaker 2: depick size. I'm just here to see what I saw. 914 00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,000 Speaker 2: And you know, whenever I see something like that, I 915 00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,359 Speaker 2: always try to say, Okay, what would I have done 916 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:12,400 Speaker 2: to get out of the situation. 917 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:49,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, are you prepared to maybe go celibate