WEBVTT - Episode 6: The Breaking Point

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<v Speaker 1>Pushkin Jake Alpern here before we get started, I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>Previously on deep Cover. In the early nineteen eighties, some

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<v Speaker 1>reformers tried to clean up Chicago to rid the city's

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<v Speaker 1>courts of corruption. One effort, known as Operation Gray Lord,

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<v Speaker 1>involved hundreds of FBI agents and produced over ninety indictments.

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<v Speaker 1>But in one significant way, Gray Lord came up short.

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<v Speaker 1>It did not expose or take down the first Ward,

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<v Speaker 1>the mob's political stronghold, and so the Chicago outfit was

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<v Speaker 1>still at it, fixing cases and placing bribes. Gray Lord

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<v Speaker 1>indicted a whole number of people, but all that happened

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<v Speaker 1>was only a few of us could still fix major cases,

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<v Speaker 1>and the price just went up. That's right, Bob Cooley's

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<v Speaker 1>services were now more valuable than ever. Ironically, it was

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<v Speaker 1>at this very moment the Bob says he was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get some distance from the Mob. In recent years,

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<v Speaker 1>a bunch of guys he knew mobsters mainly had been murdered.

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<v Speaker 1>Another gangster he knew had fled in fear of his life.

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<v Speaker 1>And while Bob wasn't a mobster per se, he'd gotten

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<v Speaker 1>caught up in many of their schemes and it seemed possible,

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<v Speaker 1>if not likely, that eventually he might end up on

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<v Speaker 1>the wrong side of a gun. So by the mid

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighties, Bob he's tiptoeing away from the mob's grasp,

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<v Speaker 1>or trying to anyhow. He claims he focused on winning

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<v Speaker 1>cases fair and square. He even moved out to the

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<v Speaker 1>suburbs to get away from the first ward guys. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not socialized, saying with him, I'm not gambling with him anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm basically having nothing to do with him. But it

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be that easy, not by a long shot. Because

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<v Speaker 1>just as Bob is trying to make a fresh start

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<v Speaker 1>of it, thinking that maybe, just maybe he's gotten away,

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<v Speaker 1>a highly sensitive case falls in his lap. And this

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<v Speaker 1>case would present a turning point for Bob, arguably the

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<v Speaker 1>turning point in his life, the one that led him

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<v Speaker 1>to betray the mob. I'm Jake Halbern, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>deep Cover mob Land episode six, the breaking Point. So

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about the case that fell into Bob's lap.

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<v Speaker 1>It involves the assault of a female police officer named

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<v Speaker 1>Cathy Tooey, and Bob would soon find himself defending the

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<v Speaker 1>man accused of attacking her. But before we get into

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<v Speaker 1>all of that, I want to tell you more about

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<v Speaker 1>Kathy and who she was. Kathy had joined the force

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<v Speaker 1>just a few years earlier. She was in her thirties,

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<v Speaker 1>She was a mom, had three kids at home, all

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<v Speaker 1>of whom were teenagers. And Kathy she loved being a cop,

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<v Speaker 1>not behind a desk, but out in the streets. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>this is what she wanted from the very start. When

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<v Speaker 1>I saw in Chicago that they were allowing the women

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<v Speaker 1>to get into a squad car and go out and

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<v Speaker 1>make traffic stops and respond to calls, I thought, Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I want to do. I should add that

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<v Speaker 1>it was not easy to find Kathy or convince her

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<v Speaker 1>to talk with me. We talked for months by phone

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<v Speaker 1>before she agreed to an on the record interview, and

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<v Speaker 1>when that finally happened, there were some things she was

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<v Speaker 1>eager to discuss, like how she loved her job, and

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<v Speaker 1>now she didn't mind being one of the few women

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<v Speaker 1>doing what she did. Didn't bother her. She got police culture.

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<v Speaker 1>Her husband was a cop, as were her brothers in law,

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<v Speaker 1>her aunt, and her cousin. I did experience some prejudice

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<v Speaker 1>from some of the officers, and I just figured I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not going to argue with you. I'm just going to

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<v Speaker 1>do my job. And gradually some of them came around

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<v Speaker 1>and they would tell me, you know, I didn't think

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<v Speaker 1>you could cut it when you first came, but I'll

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<v Speaker 1>work with you. And Kathy says, back in the eighties

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<v Speaker 1>in Chicago, this is a pretty good compliment and one

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<v Speaker 1>that she worked hard to earn. She said. The knock

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<v Speaker 1>against female cops was that they weren't tough enough, and

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<v Speaker 1>some male officers doubted that she could really be counted

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<v Speaker 1>on if the situation got out of hand. For her

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<v Speaker 1>part on the streets, Kathy held her own. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>back down when I had to be firm. I was

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<v Speaker 1>if somebody needed help, I pitched in, just doing my job.

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<v Speaker 1>And for the most part, it wasn't like she was

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<v Speaker 1>out there alone. I mean, there was a whole buddy system.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. It's like you see on TV. Every cop

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<v Speaker 1>had a partner to ride with them in the squad car,

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<v Speaker 1>but there were sometimes when officers did ride solo, like

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<v Speaker 1>around the holidays, when people took vacations and the force

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<v Speaker 1>was stretched thin. At times like that, they'd send officers

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<v Speaker 1>out on their own. And Kathy says, no one complained

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<v Speaker 1>about this. You just did it so your colleagues could

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<v Speaker 1>take their vacation and get some time with their families.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's how it came to be that on one

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<v Speaker 1>December night, just before New Year's Kathy was in a

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<v Speaker 1>patrol car all by herself. I seem to recall that

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<v Speaker 1>it was probably just after midnight, somewhere about one o'clock

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<v Speaker 1>in the morning. It was late and everything had settled down,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was riding parking tickets for people parked on

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<v Speaker 1>the hydrants or parked on the crosswalks. Those were easy

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<v Speaker 1>parking tickets. And while I'm writing my parking tickets, a

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<v Speaker 1>young man came up to the car and he said,

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<v Speaker 1>this dude just tried to get me in his car.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, oh yeah, and I said why would he

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<v Speaker 1>do that? He says, I don't know. I said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you want me to do and stuff, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's as well. He says, I don't know. But there

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<v Speaker 1>he goes the wrong way on a one way street,

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, all right, I'll go have a talk

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<v Speaker 1>with him. I went ahead. I went after the car

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<v Speaker 1>which was going the wrong way on a one way street.

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<v Speaker 1>He pulled over and and he stepped out of the car.

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<v Speaker 1>Can cut stocky Italian guy. He came out. He was

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<v Speaker 1>in a camel hair coat three quarter length. I told

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<v Speaker 1>him put his hands on the hood of the car,

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<v Speaker 1>and he did. But when he of his hands out

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<v Speaker 1>of the pocket, he put a piece of cold rolled

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<v Speaker 1>steel down on the hood of the car. It looked

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<v Speaker 1>like a roll of porters and it's about as white

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<v Speaker 1>as a man's fist. I started to reach around him

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<v Speaker 1>to grab the cold roll steel, and I keep my radio.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, get me an assist unit. As soon as

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<v Speaker 1>I finished with the radio transmission, he turned, came up

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<v Speaker 1>with the cold rolled steel in his hand, and he said,

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<v Speaker 1>that's it. I'm going to kill you a bitch, and

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<v Speaker 1>started the swing. Came around with a roundhouse punch. I

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<v Speaker 1>attempted to block it, and I started to fall back,

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<v Speaker 1>and that took me off my feet. I fell back

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<v Speaker 1>against the squad car door, just fell back, tucked and rolled.

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<v Speaker 1>He came down on top of me and we were

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<v Speaker 1>fighting on the street. What's going through your head at

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<v Speaker 1>that moment. Keep the fight going, don't back down and

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<v Speaker 1>don't give up. And I kept telling myself, don't shoot. Eventually,

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<v Speaker 1>backup did arrive. Another officer showed up to help her.

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<v Speaker 1>Soon more cops got there and jumped into the fray.

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<v Speaker 1>They got Kathy into a Patti wagon and then raced

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<v Speaker 1>her off to the hospital. So they made sure that

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<v Speaker 1>there were no there's no mirrors in the emergency room

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<v Speaker 1>and the room they put me in, they made sure

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<v Speaker 1>there was no mirror up there, and I wasn't allowed

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<v Speaker 1>to get out of bed. Don't look in the mirror,

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<v Speaker 1>That's what they told her. In other words, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to see what your own face looks like. Most

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<v Speaker 1>of her injuries were to her head. She had a concussion,

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<v Speaker 1>her nose was broken, and her lip was so badly

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<v Speaker 1>torn their tooth had gone right through it. Someone told

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<v Speaker 1>Kathy that they were going to call her husband, Marty

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<v Speaker 1>alert him. Kathy, in her understated way, said basically, no,

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<v Speaker 1>don't bother him, don't wake him and the kids up.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell him about this later when I get home.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone said, guess you're not going home. You're going to

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<v Speaker 1>be here a while. And I said, is it bad? Bad?

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<v Speaker 1>And it's bad enough, as you can imagine. The guy

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<v Speaker 1>accused of assaulting Cathy Twoey, he had a very different

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<v Speaker 1>version of events that night. The guy's name was Michael Kollela.

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<v Speaker 1>He was in his twenties. He was a bodybuilder, a partier,

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<v Speaker 1>and a brawler, a violent guy. In the last year

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<v Speaker 1>or so, Michael had gotten into several scuffles and was

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<v Speaker 1>facing a number of charges. Bob says that initially he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to represent Michael Kolella because their first client

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<v Speaker 1>meeting it was pretty much a disaster. Here's how it

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<v Speaker 1>went down. Michael's father had arranged this meeting at Bob's

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<v Speaker 1>office in the hopes that Bob might take the case.

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<v Speaker 1>Bob took an instant dislike to Michael. He was our

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<v Speaker 1>no more than twenty minutes because I basically threw him out.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he was a smart alec, but he was

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<v Speaker 1>high at the time, no question in my mind he

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<v Speaker 1>was high. And I just told this day, I said, look,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't. I can't help you, and I can't help him.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, you get him cleaned up and you come back,

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, and I will take the case. So

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<v Speaker 1>a few weeks pass and the dad comes back with Michael,

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<v Speaker 1>who now appears to be clean, not on drugs, and

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<v Speaker 1>much more respectful because he was scared stiff, and he

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<v Speaker 1>starts with attempted murder, so he's expecting minimum sentence that

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<v Speaker 1>he's convicted as six years in the penitentiary. At this point,

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<v Speaker 1>Michael tells Bob his version of how it all went

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<v Speaker 1>down with Cathy Tooey. He says he was out late

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<v Speaker 1>at night looking for a prostitute when Cathy stopped him

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<v Speaker 1>and tried to arrest him, and she tried to handcuff him,

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<v Speaker 1>and he pulled. He told me he pulled himself away,

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<v Speaker 1>and she called and she put in like for a

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<v Speaker 1>policemen in trouble, and about ten policemen came to the scene.

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<v Speaker 1>And when they came to the scene, he's in a

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<v Speaker 1>fight with them, with all of them and he's on

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<v Speaker 1>the ground and one of the policemen was hitting him

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<v Speaker 1>with a with a nightstick. That's how he got his

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<v Speaker 1>face smashed in and that's how she obviously got hit too.

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<v Speaker 1>So in Michael's version of events, the cops jumped him

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<v Speaker 1>like ten cops. I'm one guy, And somehow this whole

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<v Speaker 1>skirmish was so chaotic that Kathy accidentally got her face

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<v Speaker 1>smashed in. Bob told me he actually believed this, says

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<v Speaker 1>he'd been a cop and knew how cops operated and

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<v Speaker 1>found this all credible, so he agreed to represent Michael.

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<v Speaker 1>He says he hoped to bring the case before a

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<v Speaker 1>jury and win Farren square. But then a few days later,

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<v Speaker 1>out of the blue, Bob says, he gets a call

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<v Speaker 1>from none other than Pat Marcy, who wants to meet

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<v Speaker 1>down at Counselor's row, and Bob agrees, which I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>say kind of puzzled me. You know, given the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that Bob was making every effort to break with them. Bob,

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<v Speaker 1>why did you even bother good on a meet with him?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, why not? Yeah? Maybe he's calling me to say, Bob,

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<v Speaker 1>you know you won the lottery. Here's a million dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know why he's calling me, but

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<v Speaker 1>one of the thoughts that I had, probably the original thought,

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<v Speaker 1>would be they must have a problem before a judge,

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<v Speaker 1>or even there were some people in certain positions in

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<v Speaker 1>the city that were friendly to me that would not

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<v Speaker 1>be friendly with them. Or maybe when Pat Marcy calls,

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<v Speaker 1>you just can't say no. So Bob goes down to

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<v Speaker 1>counsel's row and lo and behold, Marcy wants to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to him about Michael Kollela. Turns out Marcy is friendly

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<v Speaker 1>with Michael's family, and apparently Marcy has promised the family

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<v Speaker 1>that he would take care of Michael's legal troubles. I

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<v Speaker 1>remember his exact words, I'll let you handle the case

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<v Speaker 1>that we're going to get it assigned to Judge Passarella.

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<v Speaker 1>And I said, Pat, there's no need to I said

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<v Speaker 1>I can win the case, and he said no, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you just do what you're told. And they had never

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<v Speaker 1>talked to me like that before. They knew me better.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody told me what to do, Nobody told me what

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<v Speaker 1>they asked me. They asked me to do things, and

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<v Speaker 1>if I wanted to do them, I wouldn't. If I didn't,

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't. Just to be clear here, Pat Marcy was

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<v Speaker 1>basically coming in and saying, sure, you can keep representing

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<v Speaker 1>your client, but it's going to be a bench trial,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're going to make sure it goes to a

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<v Speaker 1>judge who's in our pocket. In other words, were taken over.

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<v Speaker 1>What did you say to him when he said you'll

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<v Speaker 1>do what you're told? I said, well, okay, And as

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<v Speaker 1>I left, I'm furious because I don't want to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted no part of fixing a case with a

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<v Speaker 1>policewoman or a policeman based on what it happens with

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<v Speaker 1>my father and with my father's father and whatever. That

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<v Speaker 1>had never left my mind. It could be that the

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<v Speaker 1>idea of fixing the case was just way too close

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<v Speaker 1>to home. Remember, Bob came from a family of police officers,

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<v Speaker 1>not just that his own grandfather was a cop who'd

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<v Speaker 1>been killed on the job, or maybe what it really

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<v Speaker 1>came down to was not morality or some tortured family history,

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<v Speaker 1>or even the particulars of this case, but simply the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that Bob didn't want to take orders anymore. He

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to be Pat Marcy's pawn. It's why he'd

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<v Speaker 1>run away to the burbs, tried to be his own man,

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<v Speaker 1>and kind of succeeded until Pat Marcy had summoned him

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<v Speaker 1>like the king that he was and had given Bob

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<v Speaker 1>an order. You do what you're told. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to do it, but I have to do it. I'm afraid.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm afraid to say no for a lot of reasons.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I know how these people are meaning what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about. You know, these are killers and mars

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<v Speaker 1>and these people are fucking killers. And in the end,

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<v Speaker 1>Bob caved. When we come back after the break, the

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<v Speaker 1>trial begins. The case may have been fixed, but Michael's

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<v Speaker 1>family wasn't taking any chances. According to Kathy Tooey, a

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<v Speaker 1>few months after she was attacked, she was approached with

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<v Speaker 1>an offer. She says they came through a fellow cop

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<v Speaker 1>who happened to know Michael's father. The cop said he

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<v Speaker 1>was just passing along a message. The Kalella family felt

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<v Speaker 1>bad about what had happened, and they wanted to take

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<v Speaker 1>care of her medical bills. Kathy refused. It seemed like

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<v Speaker 1>hush money, but she didn't blame the cop for asking.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not interested in any money. All I want is

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<v Speaker 1>his son found guilty, and I said, that's it. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>take care of it in court. Finally, the day of

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<v Speaker 1>trial comes, Bob shows up, in court along with his client,

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Kollela. The courtroom was an unusual courtroom, the only

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<v Speaker 1>one in the building that's set up like this. There

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<v Speaker 1>was about maybe i'd say about twenty five thirty seats

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<v Speaker 1>in their front. It's full of uniform policemen. There's probably

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<v Speaker 1>twenty of the twenty five seats uniform policeman sitting in there. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's Bob's version, anyway. Kathy remembers it differently. Wholly claimed

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<v Speaker 1>that the courtroom was passed the police officers that day. Maloney,

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<v Speaker 1>I could say worse, but I don't want to offend you,

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<v Speaker 1>Kathy says. Sometimes cops did turn up in droves to

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<v Speaker 1>support a fellow officer. A call would go out, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we need your support. But that didn't happen today, she says,

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<v Speaker 1>because everyone believed this was an open and shut case,

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<v Speaker 1>almost a formality. Her support that day was her husband,

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<v Speaker 1>along with two prosecutors and just a few cops. So

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<v Speaker 1>when I appeared in front of these judges, I knew

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<v Speaker 1>that I had to have all my ducks in a row.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to have my reports clear, concise and truthful.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to make certain that my testimony was not

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<v Speaker 1>tentative or descriptive or flowery, it was factual. She didn't

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<v Speaker 1>think there was anything to worry about, especially considering Michael's

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<v Speaker 1>track record. He had a background on him, and I

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<v Speaker 1>had no indication that there was going to be any problems.

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<v Speaker 1>The hospital reports, his interviews, everything supported this case, so

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<v Speaker 1>I had no reason to suspect that it was going

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<v Speaker 1>to go any other way. When Cathy took the witness stand,

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<v Speaker 1>she recalled how she'd stopped Michael for driving the wrong

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<v Speaker 1>way down one way street. She ordered him out of

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<v Speaker 1>the car, began a pet down search, Michael resisted, a

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<v Speaker 1>fight broke out. Michael had a five inch piece of

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<v Speaker 1>cold rolled steel inside his fist as he punched her.

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<v Speaker 1>In the end, Cathy was so badly injured that she

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<v Speaker 1>later had to undergo reconstructive surgery. None of us looked

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<v Speaker 1>especially good for Bob's client. When it came time for

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<v Speaker 1>Bob to mount his defense, he offered a bold and

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<v Speaker 1>pretty unconventional argument. He called a number of witnesses, including Michael,

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<v Speaker 1>and Michael told a kind of crazy story had boiled

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<v Speaker 1>down to this. He suggested that a tattooed stranger drugged

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<v Speaker 1>him at a bar and this induced a kind of

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<v Speaker 1>temporary insanity. According to the Chicago Tribune, which covered the trial,

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<v Speaker 1>that was the main thrust of Bob's argument. When I

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<v Speaker 1>asked Bob about this, he told me, I don't believe

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<v Speaker 1>there was ever any guy, you know, who drugged him.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe that. Well, that was totally like me.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a story. That's a story. He came up with this,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that's that's why he was high. He's telling me.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a story. He told me. I don't believe that story,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's the story he's telling me. Classic Bob. Yeah, sure,

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<v Speaker 1>he lived in the suburbs. Now, maybe he didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to place bribes anymore, but he was noe. B Lincoln

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<v Speaker 1>all told the trial didn't last long, just a few hours,

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<v Speaker 1>and when it was time for the verdict, the judge

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<v Speaker 1>did something very odd. He shot off the microphone first,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he whispered so you could barely hear it,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, not guilty. At first, no one really reacted,

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<v Speaker 1>but then people started to realize what had just happened.

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<v Speaker 1>What the judge had said, that the defendant, Michael Kollela,

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<v Speaker 1>had just been acquitted of assaulting Kathy Cathy was sitting

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<v Speaker 1>there with the two prosecutors. She looked at them and

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<v Speaker 1>I went, what just happened? Just then her husband, Marty

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<v Speaker 1>came over to where they were sitting. And then Marty

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<v Speaker 1>comes in and Marty says, are they taking a break?

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<v Speaker 1>I said no, I said, didn't judge just ruled not guilty.

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<v Speaker 1>He says, your kidden and I said no. Marty looks

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<v Speaker 1>at me. I said yeah. I said they couldn't get

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<v Speaker 1>to me to get me to drop it. I said,

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<v Speaker 1>so they got to the damn judge. I was so

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<v Speaker 1>blind with just rage. Did it take a moment to

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<v Speaker 1>register or did the anger come right away? No? Anger

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<v Speaker 1>came right away. And thankfulness it was a closed office

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<v Speaker 1>where we were sitting. I should because I told Marty

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<v Speaker 1>I should have panicked. I should have shot the son

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<v Speaker 1>of a bitch. And I said, he's going to do

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<v Speaker 1>this to somebody else. After the judge whispered his not

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<v Speaker 1>guilty verdict, Bob took his client, Michael and tried to

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<v Speaker 1>get him out of the courtroom. Bob remembers some cops

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<v Speaker 1>blocking his path and as I'm as I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>walk towards the door, they're grabbing me and screaming at

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<v Speaker 1>me and yelling and you trader and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>They're pushing me and shoving me, and yeah, they're saying

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<v Speaker 1>you should be ashamed of yourself. And I know why

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<v Speaker 1>they're saying it, because I'm an ex policeman and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>how could you represent somebody you know who did something

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<v Speaker 1>like that? And anyhow, there was all kinds of commotion.

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<v Speaker 1>What were you saying when they were saying you should

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<v Speaker 1>be ashamed? I don't say anything. What am I going

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<v Speaker 1>to say to him? I just want to get out

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<v Speaker 1>of there and walk out of there, you know, Bob says.

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<v Speaker 1>The police officers kept haranguing him, chanting like a Greek

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<v Speaker 1>chorus from some overwrought tragedy. After the verdict in this case,

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<v Speaker 1>there was an outcry from the local press. The legendary

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<v Speaker 1>columnist Mike Royko summed up the case this way. Quote

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<v Speaker 1>A muscular young thug named Mike Kalella, who had mulled

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<v Speaker 1>a female police officer, told the judge that a tattooed

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<v Speaker 1>stranger in a bar slipped a mysterious drug into his drink.

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<v Speaker 1>That yarn made sense to the judge. People were outraged.

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<v Speaker 1>There were calls in the press who reforms in the

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<v Speaker 1>judicial system, and they wanted the judge to pay his

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<v Speaker 1>decision to equip Michael Kollella has touched off a campaign

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<v Speaker 1>to vote him down. The twenty seven year old Kollela

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<v Speaker 1>from Elmwood Park was charged with beating officer Cathy Tooey

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<v Speaker 1>after she stopped him for a license check on New

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<v Speaker 1>Year's Eve of nineteen eighty four. Officer Tooey says, when

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<v Speaker 1>she heard the judge's decision last week, I can't believe this.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't believe that any judge, after hearing all the evidence,

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<v Speaker 1>could possibly rule in such a manner. Kathy, she may

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<v Speaker 1>have been blind with rage, but she didn't let that

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<v Speaker 1>stop her from seeking justice. She became a vocal critic

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<v Speaker 1>of the judge in the case, and he was subsequently

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<v Speaker 1>voted out of office. Kathy went back to work and

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<v Speaker 1>eventually was promoted to a captain in the Chicago PD

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<v Speaker 1>along with four other female officers. Sarah had never been

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<v Speaker 1>a female captain on the Chicago Police Department. Wow, So

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<v Speaker 1>what did that feel like, Hot, Doug, I'm mischarged? Wow? Seriously,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a great deal of pride as for Michael Kollela.

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<v Speaker 1>Turns out Kathy was right about him. He did go

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<v Speaker 1>on to commit multiple assaults and eventually would go to prison.

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<v Speaker 1>For Bob. The outcome of this trial also had big consequences,

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<v Speaker 1>but very different ones. Just hours after the verdict, Bob

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<v Speaker 1>says he went to meet with Pat Marcy. Among other things,

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<v Speaker 1>Bob still needed to get paid, so Bob says he

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<v Speaker 1>shows up a counselor's row and sees Marcy sitting at

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<v Speaker 1>his regular table. Marcy stands up, walks down a hallway

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<v Speaker 1>towards the building's elevators, and then ducks into a janitor's closet.

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<v Speaker 1>Bob follows him. This, by the way, is the same

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<v Speaker 1>thing that happened nine years earlier when Pat Marcy paid

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<v Speaker 1>Bob for fixing the Hairy Alamann trial. So, according to Bob,

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<v Speaker 1>there they are crowded in the little janitor's closet, Bob

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<v Speaker 1>and the mob's political tsar standing there face to face

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<v Speaker 1>amidst the mops and brooms and buckets. The way the

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<v Speaker 1>closet was configured, it had a staircase and Marcy was

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<v Speaker 1>standing on it, so he was kind of towering over Bob.

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<v Speaker 1>At some point Marcy reached into his pocket and pulled

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<v Speaker 1>out some cash and paid Bob what he was owed,

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand dollars. Bob then recounted to Marcy what had

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<v Speaker 1>happened in the courtroom. I said, the media was there,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and they were going absolutely crazy after it.

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<v Speaker 1>I said to Judge for some reason, you know, shut

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<v Speaker 1>off the microphone and jumped off the bench, looking guilty

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<v Speaker 1>as hell. I said, he's going to be in serious trouble,

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<v Speaker 1>and what if he beefs on you? And Pat said

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<v Speaker 1>to me, nobody would dare, nobody would dare cooperate against us.

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<v Speaker 1>And I thought to myself, you're looking at somebody that

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<v Speaker 1>just might do that. And then I thought, for some reason,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm afraid this guy can read my mind. Don't ask

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<v Speaker 1>me why, but that thought isn't as I'm looking at him.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking to myself, I got to change when I'm thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>because this guy can This guy can you know, can

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<v Speaker 1>read my mind. Such was the power of Pat Marcy

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<v Speaker 1>to Bob. He was almost like some kind of super

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<v Speaker 1>villain who could see right through him, access his most

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<v Speaker 1>closely guarded thoughts, sniff out the faintest whiff of betrayal.

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<v Speaker 1>It's understandable really why Bob almost freaked out because the

0:28:19.996 --> 0:28:23.636
<v Speaker 1>thought that he had was a very dangerous one and

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<v Speaker 1>it was quickly taking hold. Just weeks later, on a

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<v Speaker 1>quiet Saturday morning, Bob made his big decision to flip.

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<v Speaker 1>He walked into the office of a federal prosecutor and

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<v Speaker 1>started talking. In subsequent meetings, Bob said he could deliver

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<v Speaker 1>the mob. To do this, however, prosecutors would need to

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<v Speaker 1>gather evidence, lots of it, and to get that well,

0:28:52.956 --> 0:28:55.356
<v Speaker 1>Bob would have to wear a wire. He'd need to

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<v Speaker 1>get Pat Marcy and the first word guys on tape.

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<v Speaker 1>That was really the only surefire way to nail them.

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<v Speaker 1>But would Bob do it? I mean, it was one

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<v Speaker 1>thing to make an impulsive visit to a prosecutor's office

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<v Speaker 1>or offer a few randios promises. It was another thing

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<v Speaker 1>entirely to go undercover and risk your life. Who is

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<v Speaker 1>to say Bob would even be any good as an

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<v Speaker 1>undercover agent or that he could be trusted. But in

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<v Speaker 1>the end, there is only one way to find out.

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<v Speaker 1>Strapper recorded to his leg and hit record next time

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