1 00:00:15,316 --> 00:00:23,476 Speaker 1: Pushkin Jake Alpern here before we get started, I wanted 2 00:00:23,516 --> 00:00:26,276 Speaker 1: you to know that deep Cover Season two will be 3 00:00:26,356 --> 00:00:31,436 Speaker 1: dropping weekly on Mondays, but the full season is available 4 00:00:31,796 --> 00:00:36,356 Speaker 1: right now ad free for Pushkin Plus subscribers. That's all 5 00:00:36,396 --> 00:00:40,956 Speaker 1: ten episodes right away. Find Pushkin Plus on the deep 6 00:00:40,996 --> 00:00:52,796 Speaker 1: Cover show page in Apple Podcasts or at pushkin dot Fm. 7 00:00:52,796 --> 00:00:57,356 Speaker 1: Previously on deep Cover. In the early nineteen eighties, some 8 00:00:57,516 --> 00:01:00,876 Speaker 1: reformers tried to clean up Chicago to rid the city's 9 00:01:00,916 --> 00:01:05,156 Speaker 1: courts of corruption. One effort, known as Operation Gray Lord, 10 00:01:05,476 --> 00:01:09,836 Speaker 1: involved hundreds of FBI agents and produced over ninety indictments. 11 00:01:10,676 --> 00:01:14,156 Speaker 1: But in one significant way, Gray Lord came up short. 12 00:01:14,756 --> 00:01:18,076 Speaker 1: It did not expose or take down the first Ward, 13 00:01:18,476 --> 00:01:23,436 Speaker 1: the mob's political stronghold, and so the Chicago outfit was 14 00:01:23,476 --> 00:01:28,276 Speaker 1: still at it, fixing cases and placing bribes. Gray Lord 15 00:01:28,556 --> 00:01:32,796 Speaker 1: indicted a whole number of people, but all that happened 16 00:01:32,876 --> 00:01:36,676 Speaker 1: was only a few of us could still fix major cases, 17 00:01:37,436 --> 00:01:41,476 Speaker 1: and the price just went up. That's right, Bob Cooley's 18 00:01:41,476 --> 00:01:48,956 Speaker 1: services were now more valuable than ever. Ironically, it was 19 00:01:49,036 --> 00:01:51,716 Speaker 1: at this very moment the Bob says he was trying 20 00:01:51,716 --> 00:01:54,916 Speaker 1: to get some distance from the Mob. In recent years, 21 00:01:54,956 --> 00:01:58,476 Speaker 1: a bunch of guys he knew mobsters mainly had been murdered. 22 00:01:58,756 --> 00:02:01,596 Speaker 1: Another gangster he knew had fled in fear of his life. 23 00:02:02,316 --> 00:02:05,196 Speaker 1: And while Bob wasn't a mobster per se, he'd gotten 24 00:02:05,196 --> 00:02:08,756 Speaker 1: caught up in many of their schemes and it seemed possible, 25 00:02:08,796 --> 00:02:11,756 Speaker 1: if not likely, that eventually he might end up on 26 00:02:11,796 --> 00:02:15,636 Speaker 1: the wrong side of a gun. So by the mid 27 00:02:15,716 --> 00:02:19,676 Speaker 1: nineteen eighties, Bob he's tiptoeing away from the mob's grasp, 28 00:02:20,156 --> 00:02:23,356 Speaker 1: or trying to anyhow. He claims he focused on winning 29 00:02:23,396 --> 00:02:26,116 Speaker 1: cases fair and square. He even moved out to the 30 00:02:26,156 --> 00:02:29,876 Speaker 1: suburbs to get away from the first ward guys. I'm 31 00:02:29,916 --> 00:02:33,636 Speaker 1: not socialized, saying with him, I'm not gambling with him anymore. 32 00:02:34,276 --> 00:02:37,956 Speaker 1: I'm basically having nothing to do with him. But it 33 00:02:37,956 --> 00:02:41,396 Speaker 1: wouldn't be that easy, not by a long shot. Because 34 00:02:41,516 --> 00:02:43,756 Speaker 1: just as Bob is trying to make a fresh start 35 00:02:43,796 --> 00:02:47,396 Speaker 1: of it, thinking that maybe, just maybe he's gotten away, 36 00:02:48,236 --> 00:02:51,636 Speaker 1: a highly sensitive case falls in his lap. And this 37 00:02:51,716 --> 00:02:55,796 Speaker 1: case would present a turning point for Bob, arguably the 38 00:02:56,036 --> 00:02:59,076 Speaker 1: turning point in his life, the one that led him 39 00:02:59,076 --> 00:03:27,076 Speaker 1: to betray the mob. I'm Jake Halbern, and this is 40 00:03:27,196 --> 00:03:55,316 Speaker 1: deep Cover mob Land episode six, the breaking Point. So 41 00:03:55,396 --> 00:03:57,836 Speaker 1: let's talk about the case that fell into Bob's lap. 42 00:03:58,396 --> 00:04:01,636 Speaker 1: It involves the assault of a female police officer named 43 00:04:01,676 --> 00:04:05,676 Speaker 1: Cathy Tooey, and Bob would soon find himself defending the 44 00:04:05,756 --> 00:04:08,956 Speaker 1: man accused of attacking her. But before we get into 45 00:04:08,956 --> 00:04:11,356 Speaker 1: all of that, I want to tell you more about 46 00:04:11,436 --> 00:04:14,876 Speaker 1: Kathy and who she was. Kathy had joined the force 47 00:04:15,036 --> 00:04:17,716 Speaker 1: just a few years earlier. She was in her thirties, 48 00:04:17,996 --> 00:04:20,596 Speaker 1: She was a mom, had three kids at home, all 49 00:04:20,596 --> 00:04:25,196 Speaker 1: of whom were teenagers. And Kathy she loved being a cop, 50 00:04:25,636 --> 00:04:29,076 Speaker 1: not behind a desk, but out in the streets. In fact, 51 00:04:29,196 --> 00:04:32,356 Speaker 1: this is what she wanted from the very start. When 52 00:04:32,396 --> 00:04:36,076 Speaker 1: I saw in Chicago that they were allowing the women 53 00:04:36,196 --> 00:04:40,356 Speaker 1: to get into a squad car and go out and 54 00:04:40,756 --> 00:04:44,156 Speaker 1: make traffic stops and respond to calls, I thought, Wow, 55 00:04:44,796 --> 00:04:47,636 Speaker 1: that's what I want to do. I should add that 56 00:04:47,756 --> 00:04:50,436 Speaker 1: it was not easy to find Kathy or convince her 57 00:04:50,436 --> 00:04:53,276 Speaker 1: to talk with me. We talked for months by phone 58 00:04:53,316 --> 00:04:56,076 Speaker 1: before she agreed to an on the record interview, and 59 00:04:56,156 --> 00:04:59,356 Speaker 1: when that finally happened, there were some things she was 60 00:04:59,476 --> 00:05:02,596 Speaker 1: eager to discuss, like how she loved her job, and 61 00:05:02,676 --> 00:05:04,716 Speaker 1: now she didn't mind being one of the few women 62 00:05:04,836 --> 00:05:08,876 Speaker 1: doing what she did. Didn't bother her. She got police culture. 63 00:05:09,316 --> 00:05:12,196 Speaker 1: Her husband was a cop, as were her brothers in law, 64 00:05:12,556 --> 00:05:16,876 Speaker 1: her aunt, and her cousin. I did experience some prejudice 65 00:05:16,996 --> 00:05:20,876 Speaker 1: from some of the officers, and I just figured I'm 66 00:05:20,876 --> 00:05:22,476 Speaker 1: not going to argue with you. I'm just going to 67 00:05:22,556 --> 00:05:27,836 Speaker 1: do my job. And gradually some of them came around 68 00:05:27,876 --> 00:05:31,236 Speaker 1: and they would tell me, you know, I didn't think 69 00:05:31,276 --> 00:05:34,876 Speaker 1: you could cut it when you first came, but I'll 70 00:05:34,876 --> 00:05:38,316 Speaker 1: work with you. And Kathy says, back in the eighties 71 00:05:38,396 --> 00:05:41,956 Speaker 1: in Chicago, this is a pretty good compliment and one 72 00:05:41,996 --> 00:05:44,716 Speaker 1: that she worked hard to earn. She said. The knock 73 00:05:44,756 --> 00:05:47,876 Speaker 1: against female cops was that they weren't tough enough, and 74 00:05:47,996 --> 00:05:51,036 Speaker 1: some male officers doubted that she could really be counted 75 00:05:51,036 --> 00:05:53,796 Speaker 1: on if the situation got out of hand. For her 76 00:05:53,836 --> 00:05:57,596 Speaker 1: part on the streets, Kathy held her own. I didn't 77 00:05:57,596 --> 00:06:01,236 Speaker 1: back down when I had to be firm. I was 78 00:06:02,036 --> 00:06:07,076 Speaker 1: if somebody needed help, I pitched in, just doing my job. 79 00:06:07,796 --> 00:06:09,916 Speaker 1: And for the most part, it wasn't like she was 80 00:06:09,956 --> 00:06:12,916 Speaker 1: out there alone. I mean, there was a whole buddy system. 81 00:06:13,436 --> 00:06:15,796 Speaker 1: You know. It's like you see on TV. Every cop 82 00:06:15,876 --> 00:06:18,436 Speaker 1: had a partner to ride with them in the squad car, 83 00:06:18,916 --> 00:06:22,636 Speaker 1: but there were sometimes when officers did ride solo, like 84 00:06:22,796 --> 00:06:25,876 Speaker 1: around the holidays, when people took vacations and the force 85 00:06:25,996 --> 00:06:29,996 Speaker 1: was stretched thin. At times like that, they'd send officers 86 00:06:29,996 --> 00:06:33,076 Speaker 1: out on their own. And Kathy says, no one complained 87 00:06:33,116 --> 00:06:36,156 Speaker 1: about this. You just did it so your colleagues could 88 00:06:36,156 --> 00:06:38,876 Speaker 1: take their vacation and get some time with their families. 89 00:06:39,716 --> 00:06:42,316 Speaker 1: And that's how it came to be that on one 90 00:06:42,356 --> 00:06:45,716 Speaker 1: December night, just before New Year's Kathy was in a 91 00:06:45,756 --> 00:06:49,916 Speaker 1: patrol car all by herself. I seem to recall that 92 00:06:50,076 --> 00:06:56,036 Speaker 1: it was probably just after midnight, somewhere about one o'clock 93 00:06:56,076 --> 00:07:00,116 Speaker 1: in the morning. It was late and everything had settled down, 94 00:07:01,996 --> 00:07:05,116 Speaker 1: and I was riding parking tickets for people parked on 95 00:07:05,196 --> 00:07:09,236 Speaker 1: the hydrants or parked on the crosswalks. Those were easy 96 00:07:09,396 --> 00:07:13,956 Speaker 1: parking tickets. And while I'm writing my parking tickets, a 97 00:07:14,116 --> 00:07:16,436 Speaker 1: young man came up to the car and he said, 98 00:07:16,636 --> 00:07:19,196 Speaker 1: this dude just tried to get me in his car. 99 00:07:20,276 --> 00:07:22,636 Speaker 1: I said, oh yeah, and I said why would he 100 00:07:22,716 --> 00:07:26,356 Speaker 1: do that? He says, I don't know. I said, well, 101 00:07:26,356 --> 00:07:30,356 Speaker 1: what do you want me to do and stuff, and 102 00:07:30,396 --> 00:07:33,996 Speaker 1: he's as well. He says, I don't know. But there 103 00:07:33,996 --> 00:07:36,556 Speaker 1: he goes the wrong way on a one way street, 104 00:07:37,196 --> 00:07:40,076 Speaker 1: and I said, all right, I'll go have a talk 105 00:07:40,076 --> 00:07:43,396 Speaker 1: with him. I went ahead. I went after the car 106 00:07:43,476 --> 00:07:45,476 Speaker 1: which was going the wrong way on a one way street. 107 00:07:46,756 --> 00:07:52,356 Speaker 1: He pulled over and and he stepped out of the car. 108 00:07:54,036 --> 00:07:58,436 Speaker 1: Can cut stocky Italian guy. He came out. He was 109 00:07:58,476 --> 00:08:03,196 Speaker 1: in a camel hair coat three quarter length. I told 110 00:08:03,276 --> 00:08:05,636 Speaker 1: him put his hands on the hood of the car, 111 00:08:06,516 --> 00:08:10,156 Speaker 1: and he did. But when he of his hands out 112 00:08:10,156 --> 00:08:12,916 Speaker 1: of the pocket, he put a piece of cold rolled 113 00:08:12,956 --> 00:08:19,836 Speaker 1: steel down on the hood of the car. It looked 114 00:08:19,836 --> 00:08:24,316 Speaker 1: like a roll of porters and it's about as white 115 00:08:24,316 --> 00:08:27,756 Speaker 1: as a man's fist. I started to reach around him 116 00:08:27,796 --> 00:08:30,876 Speaker 1: to grab the cold roll steel, and I keep my radio. 117 00:08:32,476 --> 00:08:37,036 Speaker 1: I said, get me an assist unit. As soon as 118 00:08:37,036 --> 00:08:42,436 Speaker 1: I finished with the radio transmission, he turned, came up 119 00:08:42,436 --> 00:08:46,276 Speaker 1: with the cold rolled steel in his hand, and he said, 120 00:08:46,316 --> 00:08:51,236 Speaker 1: that's it. I'm going to kill you a bitch, and 121 00:08:51,396 --> 00:08:55,156 Speaker 1: started the swing. Came around with a roundhouse punch. I 122 00:08:55,196 --> 00:08:57,996 Speaker 1: attempted to block it, and I started to fall back, 123 00:08:58,916 --> 00:09:01,196 Speaker 1: and that took me off my feet. I fell back 124 00:09:01,236 --> 00:09:07,036 Speaker 1: against the squad car door, just fell back, tucked and rolled. 125 00:09:07,636 --> 00:09:10,796 Speaker 1: He came down on top of me and we were 126 00:09:10,836 --> 00:09:19,316 Speaker 1: fighting on the street. What's going through your head at 127 00:09:19,356 --> 00:09:22,396 Speaker 1: that moment. Keep the fight going, don't back down and 128 00:09:22,476 --> 00:09:35,476 Speaker 1: don't give up. And I kept telling myself, don't shoot. Eventually, 129 00:09:35,516 --> 00:09:39,196 Speaker 1: backup did arrive. Another officer showed up to help her. 130 00:09:39,556 --> 00:09:42,116 Speaker 1: Soon more cops got there and jumped into the fray. 131 00:09:43,676 --> 00:09:46,756 Speaker 1: They got Kathy into a Patti wagon and then raced 132 00:09:46,796 --> 00:09:49,516 Speaker 1: her off to the hospital. So they made sure that 133 00:09:49,556 --> 00:09:53,556 Speaker 1: there were no there's no mirrors in the emergency room 134 00:09:53,636 --> 00:09:56,476 Speaker 1: and the room they put me in, they made sure 135 00:09:56,516 --> 00:10:00,276 Speaker 1: there was no mirror up there, and I wasn't allowed 136 00:10:00,316 --> 00:10:03,836 Speaker 1: to get out of bed. Don't look in the mirror, 137 00:10:04,276 --> 00:10:07,276 Speaker 1: That's what they told her. In other words, you don't 138 00:10:07,276 --> 00:10:10,076 Speaker 1: want to see what your own face looks like. Most 139 00:10:10,076 --> 00:10:12,996 Speaker 1: of her injuries were to her head. She had a concussion, 140 00:10:13,436 --> 00:10:16,276 Speaker 1: her nose was broken, and her lip was so badly 141 00:10:16,316 --> 00:10:19,916 Speaker 1: torn their tooth had gone right through it. Someone told 142 00:10:19,996 --> 00:10:22,396 Speaker 1: Kathy that they were going to call her husband, Marty 143 00:10:22,676 --> 00:10:27,716 Speaker 1: alert him. Kathy, in her understated way, said basically, no, 144 00:10:28,036 --> 00:10:30,316 Speaker 1: don't bother him, don't wake him and the kids up. 145 00:10:31,036 --> 00:10:33,276 Speaker 1: I'll tell him about this later when I get home. 146 00:10:34,836 --> 00:10:39,236 Speaker 1: Someone said, guess you're not going home. You're going to 147 00:10:39,316 --> 00:10:44,076 Speaker 1: be here a while. And I said, is it bad? Bad? 148 00:10:44,156 --> 00:11:16,676 Speaker 1: And it's bad enough, as you can imagine. The guy 149 00:11:16,676 --> 00:11:20,156 Speaker 1: accused of assaulting Cathy Twoey, he had a very different 150 00:11:20,236 --> 00:11:24,476 Speaker 1: version of events that night. The guy's name was Michael Kollela. 151 00:11:24,716 --> 00:11:28,116 Speaker 1: He was in his twenties. He was a bodybuilder, a partier, 152 00:11:28,196 --> 00:11:31,756 Speaker 1: and a brawler, a violent guy. In the last year 153 00:11:31,876 --> 00:11:34,996 Speaker 1: or so, Michael had gotten into several scuffles and was 154 00:11:35,036 --> 00:11:39,796 Speaker 1: facing a number of charges. Bob says that initially he 155 00:11:39,836 --> 00:11:43,236 Speaker 1: didn't want to represent Michael Kolella because their first client 156 00:11:43,316 --> 00:11:46,876 Speaker 1: meeting it was pretty much a disaster. Here's how it 157 00:11:46,916 --> 00:11:50,876 Speaker 1: went down. Michael's father had arranged this meeting at Bob's 158 00:11:50,876 --> 00:11:53,556 Speaker 1: office in the hopes that Bob might take the case. 159 00:11:54,276 --> 00:11:57,636 Speaker 1: Bob took an instant dislike to Michael. He was our 160 00:11:57,756 --> 00:12:00,476 Speaker 1: no more than twenty minutes because I basically threw him out. 161 00:12:01,396 --> 00:12:04,196 Speaker 1: You know, he was a smart alec, but he was 162 00:12:04,316 --> 00:12:06,356 Speaker 1: high at the time, no question in my mind he 163 00:12:06,436 --> 00:12:09,716 Speaker 1: was high. And I just told this day, I said, look, 164 00:12:09,756 --> 00:12:12,236 Speaker 1: I can't. I can't help you, and I can't help him. 165 00:12:12,916 --> 00:12:16,516 Speaker 1: I said, you get him cleaned up and you come back, 166 00:12:16,516 --> 00:12:19,236 Speaker 1: and I said, and I will take the case. So 167 00:12:19,356 --> 00:12:22,596 Speaker 1: a few weeks pass and the dad comes back with Michael, 168 00:12:22,676 --> 00:12:25,596 Speaker 1: who now appears to be clean, not on drugs, and 169 00:12:26,156 --> 00:12:28,716 Speaker 1: much more respectful because he was scared stiff, and he 170 00:12:28,836 --> 00:12:33,036 Speaker 1: starts with attempted murder, so he's expecting minimum sentence that 171 00:12:33,116 --> 00:12:36,916 Speaker 1: he's convicted as six years in the penitentiary. At this point, 172 00:12:37,276 --> 00:12:40,196 Speaker 1: Michael tells Bob his version of how it all went 173 00:12:40,276 --> 00:12:43,716 Speaker 1: down with Cathy Tooey. He says he was out late 174 00:12:43,756 --> 00:12:47,396 Speaker 1: at night looking for a prostitute when Cathy stopped him 175 00:12:47,596 --> 00:12:50,996 Speaker 1: and tried to arrest him, and she tried to handcuff him, 176 00:12:50,996 --> 00:12:53,916 Speaker 1: and he pulled. He told me he pulled himself away, 177 00:12:54,436 --> 00:12:56,916 Speaker 1: and she called and she put in like for a 178 00:12:56,916 --> 00:13:00,636 Speaker 1: policemen in trouble, and about ten policemen came to the scene. 179 00:13:01,156 --> 00:13:03,676 Speaker 1: And when they came to the scene, he's in a 180 00:13:03,756 --> 00:13:06,876 Speaker 1: fight with them, with all of them and he's on 181 00:13:06,916 --> 00:13:10,356 Speaker 1: the ground and one of the policemen was hitting him 182 00:13:10,356 --> 00:13:13,716 Speaker 1: with a with a nightstick. That's how he got his 183 00:13:13,796 --> 00:13:17,236 Speaker 1: face smashed in and that's how she obviously got hit too. 184 00:13:17,956 --> 00:13:22,716 Speaker 1: So in Michael's version of events, the cops jumped him 185 00:13:22,796 --> 00:13:26,476 Speaker 1: like ten cops. I'm one guy, And somehow this whole 186 00:13:26,516 --> 00:13:31,276 Speaker 1: skirmish was so chaotic that Kathy accidentally got her face 187 00:13:31,316 --> 00:13:36,356 Speaker 1: smashed in. Bob told me he actually believed this, says 188 00:13:36,596 --> 00:13:39,116 Speaker 1: he'd been a cop and knew how cops operated and 189 00:13:39,196 --> 00:13:43,036 Speaker 1: found this all credible, so he agreed to represent Michael. 190 00:13:43,476 --> 00:13:45,276 Speaker 1: He says he hoped to bring the case before a 191 00:13:45,356 --> 00:13:52,836 Speaker 1: jury and win Farren square. But then a few days later, 192 00:13:53,076 --> 00:13:55,196 Speaker 1: out of the blue, Bob says, he gets a call 193 00:13:55,316 --> 00:13:58,756 Speaker 1: from none other than Pat Marcy, who wants to meet 194 00:13:58,876 --> 00:14:03,636 Speaker 1: down at Counselor's row, and Bob agrees, which I gotta 195 00:14:03,676 --> 00:14:06,316 Speaker 1: say kind of puzzled me. You know, given the fact 196 00:14:06,316 --> 00:14:09,356 Speaker 1: that Bob was making every effort to break with them. Bob, 197 00:14:10,156 --> 00:14:12,276 Speaker 1: why did you even bother good on a meet with him? 198 00:14:13,436 --> 00:14:18,036 Speaker 1: I mean, why not? Yeah? Maybe he's calling me to say, Bob, 199 00:14:18,116 --> 00:14:20,876 Speaker 1: you know you won the lottery. Here's a million dollars. 200 00:14:20,916 --> 00:14:22,516 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know why he's calling me, but 201 00:14:23,076 --> 00:14:25,716 Speaker 1: one of the thoughts that I had, probably the original thought, 202 00:14:25,796 --> 00:14:29,596 Speaker 1: would be they must have a problem before a judge, 203 00:14:29,676 --> 00:14:32,796 Speaker 1: or even there were some people in certain positions in 204 00:14:32,836 --> 00:14:35,316 Speaker 1: the city that were friendly to me that would not 205 00:14:35,436 --> 00:14:39,556 Speaker 1: be friendly with them. Or maybe when Pat Marcy calls, 206 00:14:40,076 --> 00:14:43,716 Speaker 1: you just can't say no. So Bob goes down to 207 00:14:43,756 --> 00:14:47,236 Speaker 1: counsel's row and lo and behold, Marcy wants to talk 208 00:14:47,276 --> 00:14:51,276 Speaker 1: to him about Michael Kollela. Turns out Marcy is friendly 209 00:14:51,316 --> 00:14:54,996 Speaker 1: with Michael's family, and apparently Marcy has promised the family 210 00:14:55,076 --> 00:14:58,276 Speaker 1: that he would take care of Michael's legal troubles. I 211 00:14:58,276 --> 00:15:02,356 Speaker 1: remember his exact words, I'll let you handle the case 212 00:15:03,076 --> 00:15:06,756 Speaker 1: that we're going to get it assigned to Judge Passarella. 213 00:15:06,796 --> 00:15:10,876 Speaker 1: And I said, Pat, there's no need to I said 214 00:15:10,956 --> 00:15:13,996 Speaker 1: I can win the case, and he said no, you know, 215 00:15:14,396 --> 00:15:18,116 Speaker 1: you just do what you're told. And they had never 216 00:15:18,196 --> 00:15:21,476 Speaker 1: talked to me like that before. They knew me better. 217 00:15:21,716 --> 00:15:24,236 Speaker 1: Nobody told me what to do, Nobody told me what 218 00:15:24,356 --> 00:15:27,156 Speaker 1: they asked me. They asked me to do things, and 219 00:15:27,316 --> 00:15:29,276 Speaker 1: if I wanted to do them, I wouldn't. If I didn't, 220 00:15:29,316 --> 00:15:32,796 Speaker 1: I wouldn't. Just to be clear here, Pat Marcy was 221 00:15:32,876 --> 00:15:36,196 Speaker 1: basically coming in and saying, sure, you can keep representing 222 00:15:36,196 --> 00:15:38,676 Speaker 1: your client, but it's going to be a bench trial, 223 00:15:38,796 --> 00:15:40,276 Speaker 1: and we're going to make sure it goes to a 224 00:15:40,396 --> 00:15:44,596 Speaker 1: judge who's in our pocket. In other words, were taken over. 225 00:15:45,596 --> 00:15:47,236 Speaker 1: What did you say to him when he said you'll 226 00:15:47,276 --> 00:15:51,356 Speaker 1: do what you're told? I said, well, okay, And as 227 00:15:51,396 --> 00:15:56,476 Speaker 1: I left, I'm furious because I don't want to do it. 228 00:15:56,716 --> 00:15:58,876 Speaker 1: I wanted no part of fixing a case with a 229 00:15:58,916 --> 00:16:03,276 Speaker 1: policewoman or a policeman based on what it happens with 230 00:16:03,316 --> 00:16:06,396 Speaker 1: my father and with my father's father and whatever. That 231 00:16:06,556 --> 00:16:10,636 Speaker 1: had never left my mind. It could be that the 232 00:16:10,716 --> 00:16:13,276 Speaker 1: idea of fixing the case was just way too close 233 00:16:13,316 --> 00:16:17,036 Speaker 1: to home. Remember, Bob came from a family of police officers, 234 00:16:17,436 --> 00:16:20,196 Speaker 1: not just that his own grandfather was a cop who'd 235 00:16:20,196 --> 00:16:25,076 Speaker 1: been killed on the job, or maybe what it really 236 00:16:25,116 --> 00:16:29,676 Speaker 1: came down to was not morality or some tortured family history, 237 00:16:29,996 --> 00:16:32,996 Speaker 1: or even the particulars of this case, but simply the 238 00:16:33,036 --> 00:16:36,116 Speaker 1: fact that Bob didn't want to take orders anymore. He 239 00:16:36,156 --> 00:16:39,116 Speaker 1: didn't want to be Pat Marcy's pawn. It's why he'd 240 00:16:39,156 --> 00:16:41,556 Speaker 1: run away to the burbs, tried to be his own man, 241 00:16:41,996 --> 00:16:46,156 Speaker 1: and kind of succeeded until Pat Marcy had summoned him 242 00:16:46,436 --> 00:16:49,156 Speaker 1: like the king that he was and had given Bob 243 00:16:49,156 --> 00:16:54,556 Speaker 1: an order. You do what you're told. I don't want 244 00:16:54,596 --> 00:16:58,476 Speaker 1: to do it, but I have to do it. I'm afraid. 245 00:16:58,876 --> 00:17:02,436 Speaker 1: I'm afraid to say no for a lot of reasons. 246 00:17:02,476 --> 00:17:05,796 Speaker 1: I mean, I know how these people are meaning what 247 00:17:07,076 --> 00:17:11,996 Speaker 1: I'm talking about. You know, these are killers and mars 248 00:17:12,116 --> 00:17:16,196 Speaker 1: and these people are fucking killers. And in the end, 249 00:17:16,996 --> 00:17:20,836 Speaker 1: Bob caved. When we come back after the break, the 250 00:17:20,916 --> 00:17:34,996 Speaker 1: trial begins. The case may have been fixed, but Michael's 251 00:17:35,076 --> 00:17:39,476 Speaker 1: family wasn't taking any chances. According to Kathy Tooey, a 252 00:17:39,516 --> 00:17:42,796 Speaker 1: few months after she was attacked, she was approached with 253 00:17:42,876 --> 00:17:46,036 Speaker 1: an offer. She says they came through a fellow cop 254 00:17:46,316 --> 00:17:49,596 Speaker 1: who happened to know Michael's father. The cop said he 255 00:17:49,636 --> 00:17:53,356 Speaker 1: was just passing along a message. The Kalella family felt 256 00:17:53,356 --> 00:17:56,516 Speaker 1: bad about what had happened, and they wanted to take 257 00:17:56,636 --> 00:18:00,996 Speaker 1: care of her medical bills. Kathy refused. It seemed like 258 00:18:01,116 --> 00:18:04,396 Speaker 1: hush money, but she didn't blame the cop for asking. 259 00:18:05,316 --> 00:18:09,396 Speaker 1: I'm not interested in any money. All I want is 260 00:18:09,636 --> 00:18:13,796 Speaker 1: his son found guilty, and I said, that's it. We'll 261 00:18:13,836 --> 00:18:17,836 Speaker 1: take care of it in court. Finally, the day of 262 00:18:17,916 --> 00:18:21,636 Speaker 1: trial comes, Bob shows up, in court along with his client, 263 00:18:22,036 --> 00:18:27,396 Speaker 1: Michael Kollela. The courtroom was an unusual courtroom, the only 264 00:18:27,436 --> 00:18:30,796 Speaker 1: one in the building that's set up like this. There 265 00:18:30,876 --> 00:18:36,156 Speaker 1: was about maybe i'd say about twenty five thirty seats 266 00:18:36,196 --> 00:18:40,316 Speaker 1: in their front. It's full of uniform policemen. There's probably 267 00:18:40,356 --> 00:18:44,916 Speaker 1: twenty of the twenty five seats uniform policeman sitting in there. Well, 268 00:18:45,116 --> 00:18:49,636 Speaker 1: that's Bob's version, anyway. Kathy remembers it differently. Wholly claimed 269 00:18:49,636 --> 00:18:53,876 Speaker 1: that the courtroom was passed the police officers that day. Maloney, 270 00:18:54,436 --> 00:18:56,756 Speaker 1: I could say worse, but I don't want to offend you, 271 00:18:57,596 --> 00:19:00,876 Speaker 1: Kathy says. Sometimes cops did turn up in droves to 272 00:19:00,876 --> 00:19:03,836 Speaker 1: support a fellow officer. A call would go out, hey, 273 00:19:03,876 --> 00:19:07,716 Speaker 1: we need your support. But that didn't happen today, she says, 274 00:19:07,756 --> 00:19:10,796 Speaker 1: because everyone believed this was an open and shut case, 275 00:19:11,236 --> 00:19:14,836 Speaker 1: almost a formality. Her support that day was her husband, 276 00:19:15,036 --> 00:19:18,556 Speaker 1: along with two prosecutors and just a few cops. So 277 00:19:18,796 --> 00:19:21,236 Speaker 1: when I appeared in front of these judges, I knew 278 00:19:21,276 --> 00:19:23,396 Speaker 1: that I had to have all my ducks in a row. 279 00:19:23,916 --> 00:19:28,436 Speaker 1: I had to have my reports clear, concise and truthful. 280 00:19:29,076 --> 00:19:32,556 Speaker 1: I had to make certain that my testimony was not 281 00:19:32,876 --> 00:19:38,756 Speaker 1: tentative or descriptive or flowery, it was factual. She didn't 282 00:19:38,756 --> 00:19:42,276 Speaker 1: think there was anything to worry about, especially considering Michael's 283 00:19:42,276 --> 00:19:46,476 Speaker 1: track record. He had a background on him, and I 284 00:19:46,556 --> 00:19:49,396 Speaker 1: had no indication that there was going to be any problems. 285 00:19:50,316 --> 00:19:58,556 Speaker 1: The hospital reports, his interviews, everything supported this case, so 286 00:19:58,596 --> 00:20:00,236 Speaker 1: I had no reason to suspect that it was going 287 00:20:00,316 --> 00:20:05,556 Speaker 1: to go any other way. When Cathy took the witness stand, 288 00:20:05,876 --> 00:20:08,556 Speaker 1: she recalled how she'd stopped Michael for driving the wrong 289 00:20:08,556 --> 00:20:11,476 Speaker 1: way down one way street. She ordered him out of 290 00:20:11,476 --> 00:20:15,276 Speaker 1: the car, began a pet down search, Michael resisted, a 291 00:20:15,356 --> 00:20:18,876 Speaker 1: fight broke out. Michael had a five inch piece of 292 00:20:18,956 --> 00:20:22,196 Speaker 1: cold rolled steel inside his fist as he punched her. 293 00:20:22,876 --> 00:20:25,876 Speaker 1: In the end, Cathy was so badly injured that she 294 00:20:25,996 --> 00:20:29,916 Speaker 1: later had to undergo reconstructive surgery. None of us looked 295 00:20:29,996 --> 00:20:35,156 Speaker 1: especially good for Bob's client. When it came time for 296 00:20:35,276 --> 00:20:38,476 Speaker 1: Bob to mount his defense, he offered a bold and 297 00:20:38,556 --> 00:20:43,916 Speaker 1: pretty unconventional argument. He called a number of witnesses, including Michael, 298 00:20:44,116 --> 00:20:47,796 Speaker 1: and Michael told a kind of crazy story had boiled 299 00:20:47,796 --> 00:20:52,356 Speaker 1: down to this. He suggested that a tattooed stranger drugged 300 00:20:52,396 --> 00:20:55,276 Speaker 1: him at a bar and this induced a kind of 301 00:20:55,356 --> 00:21:00,036 Speaker 1: temporary insanity. According to the Chicago Tribune, which covered the trial, 302 00:21:00,716 --> 00:21:04,076 Speaker 1: that was the main thrust of Bob's argument. When I 303 00:21:04,116 --> 00:21:07,716 Speaker 1: asked Bob about this, he told me, I don't believe 304 00:21:07,756 --> 00:21:10,236 Speaker 1: there was ever any guy, you know, who drugged him. 305 00:21:10,236 --> 00:21:13,036 Speaker 1: I don't believe that. Well, that was totally like me. 306 00:21:13,236 --> 00:21:15,876 Speaker 1: That's a story. That's a story. He came up with this, 307 00:21:16,116 --> 00:21:19,036 Speaker 1: you know, that's that's why he was high. He's telling me. 308 00:21:19,076 --> 00:21:21,716 Speaker 1: That's a story. He told me. I don't believe that story, 309 00:21:21,956 --> 00:21:26,556 Speaker 1: but that's the story he's telling me. Classic Bob. Yeah, sure, 310 00:21:26,636 --> 00:21:29,196 Speaker 1: he lived in the suburbs. Now, maybe he didn't want 311 00:21:29,196 --> 00:21:32,916 Speaker 1: to place bribes anymore, but he was noe. B Lincoln 312 00:21:34,516 --> 00:21:37,916 Speaker 1: all told the trial didn't last long, just a few hours, 313 00:21:38,476 --> 00:21:40,636 Speaker 1: and when it was time for the verdict, the judge 314 00:21:40,756 --> 00:21:44,196 Speaker 1: did something very odd. He shot off the microphone first, 315 00:21:44,716 --> 00:21:47,596 Speaker 1: and then he whispered so you could barely hear it, 316 00:21:47,676 --> 00:21:52,676 Speaker 1: you know, not guilty. At first, no one really reacted, 317 00:21:53,116 --> 00:21:55,516 Speaker 1: but then people started to realize what had just happened. 318 00:21:55,636 --> 00:21:59,236 Speaker 1: What the judge had said, that the defendant, Michael Kollela, 319 00:21:59,436 --> 00:22:02,916 Speaker 1: had just been acquitted of assaulting Kathy Cathy was sitting 320 00:22:02,916 --> 00:22:06,116 Speaker 1: there with the two prosecutors. She looked at them and 321 00:22:06,316 --> 00:22:11,556 Speaker 1: I went, what just happened? Just then her husband, Marty 322 00:22:11,876 --> 00:22:15,236 Speaker 1: came over to where they were sitting. And then Marty 323 00:22:15,356 --> 00:22:20,716 Speaker 1: comes in and Marty says, are they taking a break? 324 00:22:22,316 --> 00:22:26,956 Speaker 1: I said no, I said, didn't judge just ruled not guilty. 325 00:22:28,196 --> 00:22:33,356 Speaker 1: He says, your kidden and I said no. Marty looks 326 00:22:33,356 --> 00:22:35,476 Speaker 1: at me. I said yeah. I said they couldn't get 327 00:22:35,516 --> 00:22:38,556 Speaker 1: to me to get me to drop it. I said, 328 00:22:38,556 --> 00:22:43,796 Speaker 1: so they got to the damn judge. I was so 329 00:22:43,996 --> 00:22:47,876 Speaker 1: blind with just rage. Did it take a moment to 330 00:22:47,996 --> 00:22:52,236 Speaker 1: register or did the anger come right away? No? Anger 331 00:22:52,316 --> 00:22:59,276 Speaker 1: came right away. And thankfulness it was a closed office 332 00:22:59,316 --> 00:23:03,676 Speaker 1: where we were sitting. I should because I told Marty 333 00:23:03,796 --> 00:23:06,196 Speaker 1: I should have panicked. I should have shot the son 334 00:23:06,196 --> 00:23:10,476 Speaker 1: of a bitch. And I said, he's going to do 335 00:23:10,516 --> 00:23:17,676 Speaker 1: this to somebody else. After the judge whispered his not 336 00:23:17,796 --> 00:23:21,196 Speaker 1: guilty verdict, Bob took his client, Michael and tried to 337 00:23:21,196 --> 00:23:24,316 Speaker 1: get him out of the courtroom. Bob remembers some cops 338 00:23:24,356 --> 00:23:27,436 Speaker 1: blocking his path and as I'm as I'm going to 339 00:23:27,476 --> 00:23:30,156 Speaker 1: walk towards the door, they're grabbing me and screaming at 340 00:23:30,196 --> 00:23:33,636 Speaker 1: me and yelling and you trader and stuff like that. 341 00:23:33,676 --> 00:23:37,556 Speaker 1: They're pushing me and shoving me, and yeah, they're saying 342 00:23:37,556 --> 00:23:40,396 Speaker 1: you should be ashamed of yourself. And I know why 343 00:23:40,436 --> 00:23:44,396 Speaker 1: they're saying it, because I'm an ex policeman and you know, 344 00:23:44,436 --> 00:23:47,196 Speaker 1: how could you represent somebody you know who did something 345 00:23:47,276 --> 00:23:51,436 Speaker 1: like that? And anyhow, there was all kinds of commotion. 346 00:23:51,516 --> 00:23:53,196 Speaker 1: What were you saying when they were saying you should 347 00:23:53,196 --> 00:23:54,956 Speaker 1: be ashamed? I don't say anything. What am I going 348 00:23:54,996 --> 00:23:57,836 Speaker 1: to say to him? I just want to get out 349 00:23:57,836 --> 00:24:01,116 Speaker 1: of there and walk out of there, you know, Bob says. 350 00:24:01,276 --> 00:24:05,716 Speaker 1: The police officers kept haranguing him, chanting like a Greek 351 00:24:05,796 --> 00:24:14,316 Speaker 1: chorus from some overwrought tragedy. After the verdict in this case, 352 00:24:14,636 --> 00:24:17,956 Speaker 1: there was an outcry from the local press. The legendary 353 00:24:18,036 --> 00:24:22,276 Speaker 1: columnist Mike Royko summed up the case this way. Quote 354 00:24:22,316 --> 00:24:25,676 Speaker 1: A muscular young thug named Mike Kalella, who had mulled 355 00:24:25,716 --> 00:24:28,876 Speaker 1: a female police officer, told the judge that a tattooed 356 00:24:28,876 --> 00:24:32,556 Speaker 1: stranger in a bar slipped a mysterious drug into his drink. 357 00:24:33,276 --> 00:24:37,676 Speaker 1: That yarn made sense to the judge. People were outraged. 358 00:24:37,956 --> 00:24:39,996 Speaker 1: There were calls in the press who reforms in the 359 00:24:40,076 --> 00:24:44,156 Speaker 1: judicial system, and they wanted the judge to pay his 360 00:24:44,236 --> 00:24:47,076 Speaker 1: decision to equip Michael Kollella has touched off a campaign 361 00:24:47,116 --> 00:24:49,876 Speaker 1: to vote him down. The twenty seven year old Kollela 362 00:24:49,956 --> 00:24:53,076 Speaker 1: from Elmwood Park was charged with beating officer Cathy Tooey 363 00:24:53,516 --> 00:24:55,596 Speaker 1: after she stopped him for a license check on New 364 00:24:55,636 --> 00:24:58,756 Speaker 1: Year's Eve of nineteen eighty four. Officer Tooey says, when 365 00:24:58,796 --> 00:25:02,356 Speaker 1: she heard the judge's decision last week, I can't believe this. 366 00:25:02,956 --> 00:25:06,316 Speaker 1: I couldn't believe that any judge, after hearing all the evidence, 367 00:25:06,756 --> 00:25:11,196 Speaker 1: could possibly rule in such a manner. Kathy, she may 368 00:25:11,236 --> 00:25:13,596 Speaker 1: have been blind with rage, but she didn't let that 369 00:25:13,676 --> 00:25:17,236 Speaker 1: stop her from seeking justice. She became a vocal critic 370 00:25:17,276 --> 00:25:19,916 Speaker 1: of the judge in the case, and he was subsequently 371 00:25:19,956 --> 00:25:22,916 Speaker 1: voted out of office. Kathy went back to work and 372 00:25:22,996 --> 00:25:26,356 Speaker 1: eventually was promoted to a captain in the Chicago PD 373 00:25:26,796 --> 00:25:30,276 Speaker 1: along with four other female officers. Sarah had never been 374 00:25:30,316 --> 00:25:34,516 Speaker 1: a female captain on the Chicago Police Department. Wow, So 375 00:25:35,556 --> 00:25:44,756 Speaker 1: what did that feel like, Hot, Doug, I'm mischarged? Wow? Seriously, 376 00:25:45,116 --> 00:25:49,636 Speaker 1: it was a great deal of pride as for Michael Kollela. 377 00:25:49,916 --> 00:25:52,836 Speaker 1: Turns out Kathy was right about him. He did go 378 00:25:52,876 --> 00:25:56,956 Speaker 1: on to commit multiple assaults and eventually would go to prison. 379 00:25:59,836 --> 00:26:03,836 Speaker 1: For Bob. The outcome of this trial also had big consequences, 380 00:26:04,316 --> 00:26:08,036 Speaker 1: but very different ones. Just hours after the verdict, Bob 381 00:26:08,076 --> 00:26:11,436 Speaker 1: says he went to meet with Pat Marcy. Among other things, 382 00:26:11,436 --> 00:26:15,596 Speaker 1: Bob still needed to get paid, so Bob says he 383 00:26:15,596 --> 00:26:18,796 Speaker 1: shows up a counselor's row and sees Marcy sitting at 384 00:26:18,836 --> 00:26:23,196 Speaker 1: his regular table. Marcy stands up, walks down a hallway 385 00:26:23,396 --> 00:26:27,316 Speaker 1: towards the building's elevators, and then ducks into a janitor's closet. 386 00:26:28,116 --> 00:26:31,076 Speaker 1: Bob follows him. This, by the way, is the same 387 00:26:31,116 --> 00:26:34,476 Speaker 1: thing that happened nine years earlier when Pat Marcy paid 388 00:26:34,476 --> 00:26:39,276 Speaker 1: Bob for fixing the Hairy Alamann trial. So, according to Bob, 389 00:26:39,836 --> 00:26:43,836 Speaker 1: there they are crowded in the little janitor's closet, Bob 390 00:26:43,996 --> 00:26:47,716 Speaker 1: and the mob's political tsar standing there face to face 391 00:26:47,916 --> 00:26:51,476 Speaker 1: amidst the mops and brooms and buckets. The way the 392 00:26:51,476 --> 00:26:54,676 Speaker 1: closet was configured, it had a staircase and Marcy was 393 00:26:54,716 --> 00:26:57,796 Speaker 1: standing on it, so he was kind of towering over Bob. 394 00:26:58,556 --> 00:27:01,796 Speaker 1: At some point Marcy reached into his pocket and pulled 395 00:27:01,796 --> 00:27:04,396 Speaker 1: out some cash and paid Bob what he was owed, 396 00:27:04,876 --> 00:27:08,996 Speaker 1: two thousand dollars. Bob then recounted to Marcy what had 397 00:27:09,156 --> 00:27:12,236 Speaker 1: happened in the courtroom. I said, the media was there, 398 00:27:12,436 --> 00:27:15,436 Speaker 1: you know, and they were going absolutely crazy after it. 399 00:27:15,796 --> 00:27:18,756 Speaker 1: I said to Judge for some reason, you know, shut 400 00:27:18,796 --> 00:27:22,356 Speaker 1: off the microphone and jumped off the bench, looking guilty 401 00:27:22,396 --> 00:27:25,156 Speaker 1: as hell. I said, he's going to be in serious trouble, 402 00:27:25,796 --> 00:27:29,596 Speaker 1: and what if he beefs on you? And Pat said 403 00:27:29,636 --> 00:27:36,236 Speaker 1: to me, nobody would dare, nobody would dare cooperate against us. 404 00:27:37,116 --> 00:27:40,836 Speaker 1: And I thought to myself, you're looking at somebody that 405 00:27:41,036 --> 00:27:47,076 Speaker 1: just might do that. And then I thought, for some reason, 406 00:27:47,116 --> 00:27:50,276 Speaker 1: I'm afraid this guy can read my mind. Don't ask 407 00:27:50,316 --> 00:27:53,196 Speaker 1: me why, but that thought isn't as I'm looking at him. 408 00:27:54,116 --> 00:27:57,996 Speaker 1: I'm thinking to myself, I got to change when I'm thinking, 409 00:27:58,076 --> 00:28:01,156 Speaker 1: because this guy can This guy can you know, can 410 00:28:01,196 --> 00:28:05,356 Speaker 1: read my mind. Such was the power of Pat Marcy 411 00:28:05,956 --> 00:28:08,516 Speaker 1: to Bob. He was almost like some kind of super 412 00:28:08,596 --> 00:28:11,716 Speaker 1: villain who could see right through him, access his most 413 00:28:11,756 --> 00:28:15,596 Speaker 1: closely guarded thoughts, sniff out the faintest whiff of betrayal. 414 00:28:16,276 --> 00:28:19,876 Speaker 1: It's understandable really why Bob almost freaked out because the 415 00:28:19,996 --> 00:28:23,636 Speaker 1: thought that he had was a very dangerous one and 416 00:28:23,756 --> 00:28:32,316 Speaker 1: it was quickly taking hold. Just weeks later, on a 417 00:28:32,396 --> 00:28:36,876 Speaker 1: quiet Saturday morning, Bob made his big decision to flip. 418 00:28:37,476 --> 00:28:40,516 Speaker 1: He walked into the office of a federal prosecutor and 419 00:28:40,676 --> 00:28:45,316 Speaker 1: started talking. In subsequent meetings, Bob said he could deliver 420 00:28:45,396 --> 00:28:48,996 Speaker 1: the mob. To do this, however, prosecutors would need to 421 00:28:49,036 --> 00:28:52,636 Speaker 1: gather evidence, lots of it, and to get that well, 422 00:28:52,956 --> 00:28:55,356 Speaker 1: Bob would have to wear a wire. He'd need to 423 00:28:55,356 --> 00:28:58,396 Speaker 1: get Pat Marcy and the first word guys on tape. 424 00:28:58,756 --> 00:29:02,116 Speaker 1: That was really the only surefire way to nail them. 425 00:29:02,156 --> 00:29:04,796 Speaker 1: But would Bob do it? I mean, it was one 426 00:29:04,836 --> 00:29:07,796 Speaker 1: thing to make an impulsive visit to a prosecutor's office 427 00:29:08,116 --> 00:29:12,116 Speaker 1: or offer a few randios promises. It was another thing 428 00:29:12,756 --> 00:29:17,316 Speaker 1: entirely to go undercover and risk your life. Who is 429 00:29:17,356 --> 00:29:19,236 Speaker 1: to say Bob would even be any good as an 430 00:29:19,276 --> 00:29:23,156 Speaker 1: undercover agent or that he could be trusted. But in 431 00:29:23,236 --> 00:29:25,996 Speaker 1: the end, there is only one way to find out. 432 00:29:26,916 --> 00:29:46,396 Speaker 1: Strapper recorded to his leg and hit record next time 433 00:29:46,876 --> 00:29:57,476 Speaker 1: on deep cover. M Hello, Hi Jenny, Hi Bro, are 434 00:29:57,596 --> 00:30:01,436 Speaker 1: you what's up. What the Bears did? They hunt, got 435 00:30:01,556 --> 00:30:25,756 Speaker 1: rid of McMahon, They started playing well. 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