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Speaker 2: Sometimes it's just like, yeah, I want to whack off

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Speaker 3: We watch all kinds of pornos on the tour bus.

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Speaker 3: I really honestly enjoy masturbation and orgasms, and Corno helps

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Speaker 3: me to achieve that. Mark Hoppus Blink one two.

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Speaker 4: Fuck it.

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Speaker 5: I like porn.

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Speaker 6: I don't give a fuck. I got a huge ass

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Speaker 6: collection about one hundred movies. I love fucking sex. I

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Speaker 6: fucking cool. Jonathan Davis Coorn.

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Speaker 7: I came up with the idea I really want to

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Speaker 7: do an autobi biography. I have so many amazing stories,

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Speaker 7: and actually, to tell you the truth, I have a

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Speaker 5: Jenna Jamison, Welcome to jenal World. Welcome back to General World.

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Speaker 5: I'm your host, Molly Lambert. This is episode nine the Game.

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Speaker 5: By the early two thousands, DVD sales have permanently outpaced

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Speaker 5: videotapes and account for sixty five percent of total sales

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Speaker 5: of porn films. One of the last videotapes Jenna ever

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Speaker 5: helps sell is a two thousand and two tape called

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Speaker 5: strippers Ball that he promotes with Dennis Rodman on Howard

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Speaker 5: It's a tape of house parties around the world that

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Speaker 5: mirror back porn. Performing sexuality for a camera is no

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Speaker 5: Larry Flint's Hustler Store creates a porn Walk of Fame

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Speaker 5: Like the famous star's handprints in front of Man's Chinese Theater,

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Speaker 5: ceremony in two thousand and three, just like the Chinese

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Speaker 5: theater in tombs film Legends in concrete. It helps mythologize

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Speaker 8: This is a special day for us at Hustler Hollywood,

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Speaker 8: inducting Jenna Jameson as our latest star for the Porn

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Speaker 8: Walk of Fame. Larry Flint publisher.

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Speaker 7: I was talking to Larry Flint and he said, when

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Speaker 5: Club Jenna continues to grow its business. In two thousand

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Speaker 5: In two thousand and four, Janet Jackson and Justin Timberlake

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Speaker 5: the halftime show inspires three young computer engineers working at

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Speaker 5: Valentine's Day, two thousand and five under its new name YouTube.

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Speaker 5: This is because the tech bro brain believes that there's

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Speaker 5: Attraction is about more than just looks. When YouTube launches,

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Speaker 5: what they term a digital short. SNL writer Adam McKay

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Speaker 5: The second digital short is a comedy rap about two

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Speaker 5: gentlemen having a genteel Sunday afternoon in gentrified post sex

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Speaker 5: in the City, New York, called Lazy Sunday or the

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Speaker 5: Chronicles of Narnia Rap. It airs in December of two

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Speaker 5: Lazy Sunday is rapidly bootlegged and emailed among friends in

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Speaker 5: where it's posted illegally, Lazy Sunday is watched over five

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Speaker 5: for free investing, talent, and time, but as with any

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Speaker 9: Joe Rogan, by the way, has thirty DVDs of Jenna Jamison.

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Speaker 10: At least I've masturbated to her a thousand times.

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Speaker 11: At least he's working on a pornostar fear factor.

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Speaker 9: Joe, what are your three favorite Jenna movies? Your three

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Speaker 10: I don't even read anything on the box. I just

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Speaker 9: My favorite Jenna Jameson movie is that first one where

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Speaker 10: That old guy up and Comers.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, that's my favorite because you look like you just

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Speaker 7: I am a good actress.

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Speaker 10: Wicked Weapon, I'm having flashbacks.

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Speaker 9: Tell me the plot of Wicked Weapon.

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Speaker 10: She gets naked, she gives oral, she takes it in

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Speaker 5: Annie Sprinkle is a first generation feminist porn star who

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Speaker 5: In two thousand and four, Howard Stern announces he will

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Speaker 9: Nothing can break your heart when you hate him that much.

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Speaker 5: Jenna is assigned a collaborator for her book, a writer

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Speaker 5: tell Alls. Neil Strauss is a pisces from Chicago who

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Speaker 5: critical theory publishers semiotext. In publishing, like porn, there was

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Speaker 5: co writes a hit book with Motley Crue called The

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Speaker 5: Dirt Confessions of the World's Most Notorious rock band, Motley Crue,

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Speaker 12: We take Tommy Lee's van to a restaurant called Noggles

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Speaker 5: Reagan Books, an imprint of HarperCollins Publishing that puts out

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Speaker 5: The Reagan in Reagan Books is a controversial, high powered

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Speaker 14: I'm an average American with a two minute attention spin

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Speaker 14: Judith Reagan, publisher.

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Speaker 11: I swear you get in a cab with my sister

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Speaker 11: Maureen Reagan, Judith's sister.

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Speaker 5: Judith Reagan A LEO, is a New York publishing tycoon.

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Speaker 5: A former tabloid writer turned editor, she ferried celebrity books

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Speaker 5: By two thousand and four, Reagan Books dominates the New

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Speaker 14: They're snobs.

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Speaker 5: Judith Reagan is such a figure of intrigue that in

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Speaker 5: Her mother often criticizes Judith and makes her feel inferior.

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Speaker 5: In return, Reagan pulls pranks, like shaping her mashed potatoes

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Speaker 14: I have the biggest cock in the building.

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Speaker 5: The book, called Sex, is one hundred and twenty eight

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Speaker 5: In nineteen ninety four, Rupert Murdoch offers Reagan her own

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Speaker 14: I didn't come up the traditional way, but I paid

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Speaker 14: Believe me, it is just an appearance. I trade places

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Speaker 5: Judith Reagan is an equal opportunity opportunist. She publishes Michael

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Speaker 5: She publishes a self help book based on The Swan

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Speaker 16: Judith doesn't listen to anything or anybody. A man has

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Speaker 5: Reagan's critics say she's a tyrant. Judith loves to quote

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Speaker 5: her hero, General George Patten. In her home, she has

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Speaker 5: Reagan sought out Jenna Jamison. They're both charismatic, aggressive, successful,

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Speaker 5: there are rumors Judith as having an affair with married

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Speaker 14: I don't publish pornography. I publish smart books about sex.

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Speaker 5: Now that sex talk is fully mainstreamed in culture. For,

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Speaker 5: In The New York Times, Judith Reagan wants books to

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Speaker 5: publishing is competing with the Internet now, and so books

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Speaker 5: catching graphics, tawdriness, and immense speed. Reagan Books is known

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Speaker 5: on current events. The company bleeds employees who quit over

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Speaker 4: There.

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Speaker 5: Allegedly, Judith likes to call them cunts and gay slurs.

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Speaker 5: She rules like a down through fear and intimidation. Judith

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Speaker 1: We all heard her screaming in her office.

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Speaker 17: You know why, because he has a small dick, and

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Speaker 17: going to eat his testicles. Then I'm going to eat

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Speaker 17: I'd heard, But this was my first job out of college.

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Speaker 5: Critics say Judith's issues as a boss include having no

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Speaker 8: She'd seem so normal at some points, then you know,

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Speaker 8: Dana Isaacson, editor at Random House.

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Speaker 14: You either have it or you don't.

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Speaker 5: Allegedly, Reagan maintains an atmosphere of stress by pitting her

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Speaker 14: If I had the job of CEO, I'd say Judith

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Speaker 14: Reagan is the most talented person in the world of publishing.

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Speaker 14: She's accomplished more than anybody else in the history of

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Speaker 5: Some employees experiences end with them leaving not only Reagan

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Speaker 5: that many feel isn't worth it. But there's a possibility

432
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Speaker 5: to move up the ranks very quickly at Reagan Books

433
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 5: that there isn't at other old school publishing houses. And

434
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 5: when Judith Reagan wants something, she gets it.

435
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Speaker 8: This is her secret. She creates chaos and she has

436
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 8: never panicked herself, and then she rides her bulldozers over

437
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 8: all the bodies and it allows her to do the

438
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Speaker 8: things that other people have problems getting accomplished. It's very effective.

439
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 14: When you're a woman doing battle. Somehow, you're an aberration.

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Speaker 5: After Vanity Fair publishes their hit piece titled The Devil

441
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Speaker 5: and Miss Reagan, Judith Reagan and does her own damage

442
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 5: control in the Telegraph, curling up in a big cozy

443
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 5: chair with a cup of herbal tea to emphasize how

444
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 5: small and calm she is. Judith's own narrative is that

445
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 5: she is a bootstrapping feminist media warrior whose path from

446
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Speaker 5: a humble Massachusetts farm to the top floor penthouses of

447
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 5: Manhattan should be spoken about purely in hushed tones of

448
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 5: reverence and awe.

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Speaker 14: People hate taking orders from women. If I walked in

450
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Speaker 14: here in an executive suit and was a man and

451
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 14: taller and had a deeper voice, it would be a

452
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Speaker 14: lot easier.

453
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Speaker 5: Reagan claims she's not the angriest woman in media, and

454
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 5: so what if she is. It works for her male

455
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 5: clients like Rush Limbaugh and Howard Stern. Her friends say

456
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 5: there's a softer side to Judith Reagan she keeps hidden

457
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Speaker 5: from the public. Even those who say she's bully at work,

458
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 5: thinks she's a good mom to her two children. Her

459
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 5: sister Maureen says there's a big difference between Judith, the

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Speaker 5: corporate warrior and Judy, her sister.

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Speaker 11: It's like, there's Judith and there's Judy. I understand Judith

462
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 11: and respect her and have the utmost respect for things

463
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Speaker 11: she's accomplished.

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Speaker 5: But I prefer hanging out with Judy. Judith Reagan has

465
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Speaker 5: a publishing white whale after losing out on Madonna's sex

466
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 5: book and failing to secure Monica Lewinsky's tell All book

467
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 5: about the Bill Clinton scandal. She is determined to have

468
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 5: a big hit book about sex. She scouts Jenna Jamison

469
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 5: to write a memoir about her life and career as

470
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Speaker 5: a porn star, and recruits Neil Strauss to co write it.

471
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,960
Speaker 5: Reagan makes Neil Strauss an offer so good he quits

472
00:31:56,000 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 5: The New York Times to focus on Jenna's book. When

473
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 5: Jenna World returns, Neil Strauss plays the game, oh, welcome

474
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 5: back to Jenna World.

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Speaker 7: Every article I read about the mainstreaming of porn declared

476
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 7: that I was going to be the one to make

477
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 7: the industry legitimate. But business was the last thing on

478
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 7: my mind. My only ambition was to be the mother

479
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 7: I never had.

480
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 5: Meanwhile, in Jena World, mainstream media is beckoning Jenna in

481
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 5: with one hand and pushing her away with the other.

482
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 5: She takes meetings in La with Hollywood production companies like

483
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Speaker 5: Adam Sandler's Happy Madison, but the meetings never lead to

484
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 5: any actual Hollywood acting work. Getting cast in private parts

485
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,959
Speaker 5: seems to have been a fluke. Jenna and her husband

486
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 5: Jay have both been working so hard on Club Jenna

487
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 5: that they never had a real wedding ceremony. After having

488
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 5: the big, traditional wedding of her teenage dreams with her

489
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 5: first husband, she wants something different for the second one.

490
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 5: Jenna in Jay's wedding is a small, intimate ceremony in

491
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 5: the backyard of her and jays Scottsdale, Arizona compound. They

492
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 5: honeymoon at the Ritz Carlton Hotel in glamorous, exotic Phoenix, Arizona.

493
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 5: Jenna has climbed the porn ladder and then some. Now

494
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 5: she has a new dream, motherhood, but first she has

495
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 5: to write a book about how she got there with

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Speaker 5: her co writer Neil Strauss.

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Speaker 7: I love what I do for a living. I'm also

498
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 7: trying to change the way that Indue is run, which

499
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,840
Speaker 7: is mostly headed by men who don't take women seriously

500
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,879
Speaker 7: as business people. To change things for girls going into

501
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 7: the industry. I have to continue. I want to continue.

502
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 5: Jenna Jamison's book is another huge blockbuster hit for Reagan Books.

503
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 5: Her autobiography, How to Make Love Like a Porn Star

504
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 5: A Cautionary Tale, is published August seventeenth, two thousand and four,

505
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 5: and spends six weeks on the New York Times bestseller list.

506
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 5: It brings Jenna up to a new even higher level

507
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,760
Speaker 5: of fame and respectability as a New York Times bestselling author.

508
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,280
Speaker 5: Thirty year old Jenna can now add best selling author

509
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:47,800
Speaker 5: to her long list of accomplishments. She celebrates by indulging

510
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:52,920
Speaker 5: in her last remaining vice, a Marlboro Lights cigarette. There

511
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 5: are calls for her to write a follow up, but

512
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:59,240
Speaker 5: she needs to accumulate more life experiences to write about first.

513
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 7: I don't know if I can spit out another book.

514
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 19: It's not lying, it's flirting, Neil Strauss, writer.

515
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,399
Speaker 5: After the success of The Dirt and How to Make

516
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 5: Love Like a Porn Star, Neil Strauss can punch his

517
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 5: own ticket anywhere in town. For his next book, Strauss

518
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 5: decides to write a book about a Los Angeles subculture

519
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 5: he's been exploring himself, the world of straight male pickup artists,

520
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 5: where he has adopted his own pickup artist nickname Style.

521
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 5: The godfather of modern day pickup artistry is a comedy

522
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 5: writer turned sex guru named Ross Jeffries.

523
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Speaker 1: Is it fair that the good looking and rich guys

524
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: should get all the beautiful women while you and I

525
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 1: have to settle for the dogs? Are you any less

526
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 1: deserving of complete sexual satisfaction than some pretty boy who

527
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 1: was blessed by genetics and daddy's bank account. Why should

528
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 1: you just meekly roll over and accept a situation that sucks, good, buddy,

529
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: when you can be getting your share and then some.

530
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 1: Ross Jeffries author.

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Speaker 5: Ross Jeffries' birth name is Paul Jeffrey Ross. His courses

532
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 5: in speed seduction and other get laid quick techniques are

533
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 5: allegedly the inspiration for the Frank TJ. Mackie character played

534
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 5: by Tom Cruise in Paul Thomas Anderson's Magnolia. Jeffries is

535
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 5: the author of mail order pamphlets with titles like the

536
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 5: Slut Report, how to have Incredibly Beautiful Women eating out

537
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 5: of the palm of your Hand, and how to find, seduce,

538
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 5: and control the Women of your Dreams. He refers to

539
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 5: himself as the chairman of the broads.

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Speaker 8: Rule one.

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Speaker 1: I make no excuses for my desires as a man,

542
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: I make no excuses for myself. I moved through the

543
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: world without apology.

544
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 5: The professors of pickup artistry have an audience of male

545
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 5: paypigs with a fantasy about being able to seduce and

546
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,919
Speaker 5: fuck women who would normally be considered physically a way

547
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 5: out of their league. These experts sell a fantasy that

548
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 5: a man with no social or physical capital could trick

549
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 5: hot women into having sex with him by cultivating a

550
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 5: false warmth, affecting charisma, and learning to manipulate them through speech.

551
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 5: The pickup advice includes hypnosis. One of Ross Jeffrey's crazier

552
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 5: suggestions is sending a girl flowers from a secret admirer

553
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 5: and then printing up a T shirt that says I

554
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,920
Speaker 5: am your secret admirer and showing up at her place

555
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 5: of work wearing it. Jeffries also suggests hypnotic techniques that

556
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 5: will make a woman get subconsciously horny, such as describing

557
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 5: a beach to her and saying that the wind is

558
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 5: blowing and the surf is pounding and the water is

559
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 5: very wet. Now that's the deep end. A lot of

560
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 5: ras Jeffrey's advice is honestly pretty sound, stuff like be

561
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 5: friendly but not creepy to women, build your own self confidence,

562
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 5: and keep personal boundaries. Picking people up is a numbers game,

563
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 5: and he says you should expect that to find one

564
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 5: woman who responds positively to your flirting, you'll have to

565
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 5: get rejected by ninety nine others. First, much of it

566
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 5: is basic motivational speaker self help stuff like mirroring someone's

567
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 5: tone and body language back to them or complementing a

568
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 5: woman's clothing. His pickup artist acolytes, known as PUAs, operate

569
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 5: on a belief that women are easy to manipulate. They

570
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 5: all make the same fundamental mistake, the belief that attraction

571
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 5: can be reduced down to mathematical formulas and that charisma

572
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 5: can be taught. Pickup artist manuals are filled with terminology

573
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,959
Speaker 5: like bird dog, which is picking up a girl who's

574
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 5: with a man already, and AFC, which stands for average

575
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 5: frustrated chump. Now, even Ross Jeffries says a life spent

576
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 5: endlessly chasing sex without experiencing emotional intimacy is empty, but

577
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 5: Jeffries and his followers sell their pickup artist programs as dangerous, secret,

578
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,240
Speaker 5: life altering dark magic.

579
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Speaker 19: If there was anything I learned, it's that the man

580
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 19: never chooses the woman. All he can do is give

581
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,919
Speaker 19: her an opportunity to choose him.

582
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 5: In two thousand and five, Neil Strauss releases his book

583
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Speaker 5: on the subject, titled The Game, Penetrating the Secret Society

584
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 5: of Pickup Artists. He introduces his readers to guys with

585
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 5: nicknames like Mystery Playboy and Tyler Dirdan, who I think

586
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:59,479
Speaker 5: misunderstood that Fight Club is about gay sex. The first

587
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 5: edition of the game is bound in imitation black leather

588
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 5: with a red satin bookmark ribbon to mimic the copies

589
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 5: of the Bible you find in hotel room drawers. The

590
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 5: La based pickup artists of the game are ridiculous characters.

591
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 5: They have a bachelor pad house called Project Hollywood. There's

592
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 5: a long history in La of creepy older man using

593
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 5: a cool, fancy house as bait, most famously the Playboy Mansion.

594
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 5: The pickup artist, known as Mysteries most famous piece of

595
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,240
Speaker 5: advice is that you should wear a big stupid looking

596
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 5: hat to spark conversations about it and to prove his point,

597
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 5: he always wears a big stupid looking hat. He refers

598
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 5: to pick up artistry as the Venusian Arts in his

599
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,360
Speaker 5: own book, The Mystery Method, How to Get Beautiful Women

600
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 5: into Bed.

601
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Speaker 10: May the Venusian Arts enricher life, not define it, Mystery

602
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 10: pickup Artist.

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Speaker 19: People in this world are not closers. They don't finish

604
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:07,439
Speaker 19: what they start. They don't live with a dream. They

605
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 19: sabotage their own progress because they're afraid they won't find

606
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 19: what they seek.

607
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 5: The game and the pickup artist culture it depicts are

608
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 5: part of a larger misogynist backlash to rising levels of social, sexual,

609
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 5: and workplace equality for women. Seduction theory is explicitly geared

610
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:32,919
Speaker 5: towards average or unattractive men looking to bag a lot

611
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 5: of stereotypically hot women. To make hot women seem less scary,

612
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 5: they are treated as a numerically gradable commodity. Women are

613
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 5: products to be sexually consumed, disposed of, and replaced with

614
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:51,720
Speaker 5: a newer product. Instead of seeking emotional connection through sex,

615
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 5: the game is explicitly about using sex purely to seek

616
00:41:55,600 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 5: ego gratification for oneself. Catching feelings is avoid because that

617
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 5: puts the ego at risk. However, in real life, women

618
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 5: are different from each other. They have personalities. You might

619
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,880
Speaker 5: like one woman more than another, even though she's not

620
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:17,240
Speaker 5: your stated physical type. Misogyny sells a lie that straight

621
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 5: men are less emotional than women, when really they're just

622
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 5: socialized into emotional repression. Because suppressing empathy and men helps

623
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 5: draft them into combat. They want men to be emotionally

624
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 5: numb so they can go kill people, and imperialism can

625
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 5: profit from it. The gamification of sex and dating thrives

626
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:40,800
Speaker 5: with both sexes. There's stuff that's exactly like the game

627
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 5: but tailored to straight women, like The Rules, a popular

628
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 5: nineties book that laid out retrostyle dating rules for women

629
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:52,319
Speaker 5: like don't call him and don't chase him. All this

630
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 5: stuff has moved online into a subculture called the dark

631
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 5: Feminine that is about gold digging and catching a tall,

632
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 5: handsome race which quote high value man. The idea is

633
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 5: that if men are going to treat women like commodified objects,

634
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 5: you just have to treat them like commodified objects right back.

635
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 5: Reducing sex to a set of rules is appealing because

636
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 5: it offers a false sense of mastery over desire. But

637
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 5: it doesn't work because desire isn't mathematical and feelings are irrational.

638
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:28,280
Speaker 19: Love is a velvet prison.

639
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:35,240
Speaker 5: The game ends with Neil Strauss not condemning pickup artists,

640
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 5: but admitting that their lives are pretty shallow and that

641
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 5: treating seduction as a game can backfire. Hedonism can become

642
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 5: an endless, insatiable loop that makes a carrying, stable relationship

643
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 5: seem exotic in comparison.

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00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 19: Every woman I met seemed disposable and replaceable. I was

645
00:43:55,760 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 19: experiencing seducer's paradox. The better a seducer I became, the

646
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 19: less I loved women. Success was no longer defined by

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Speaker 19: getting laid or finding a girlfriend, but by how well

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Speaker 19: I performed.

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Speaker 8: The book.

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Speaker 5: The Game is a huge hit that segues into the

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Speaker 5: two thousand start of an online manisphere where men offer

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Speaker 5: up these alleged cheat codes to sex and prey on

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Speaker 5: heterosexual male insecurities with sketchy advice about how to become

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Speaker 5: a cartoonishly dominating steak eating alpha male.

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Speaker 19: A lot of guys are very intimidated by an attractive woman,

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Speaker 19: and they dehumanize her because our culture perceives beautiful women

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Speaker 19: as commodities. But I think if you're able to walk

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Speaker 19: up to a person and get to know them, and

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Speaker 19: you see their flaws and their impurities and realize that

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Speaker 19: they're like you, then you can humanize them again.

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Speaker 5: Despite her critics, Judith Reagan is ultimately the un doing

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Speaker 5: of her own empire. In two thousand and six, Reagan

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Speaker 5: makes a book deal that will prove too sensationalistic, too lurid,

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Speaker 5: too gross, really even for trash hungry Americans. She announces

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Speaker 5: Reagan Books will publish a tell all by O. J.

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Speaker 5: Simpson titled If I Did It, where OJ will theorize

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Speaker 5: about how the murder of his ex wife Nicole Brown

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Speaker 5: and her friend Ronald Goldman might have happened hypothetically. It

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Speaker 5: is to be released alongside a two hours sweeps week

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Speaker 5: O J. Simpson interview special called O J. Simpson If

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Speaker 5: I Did It? On Fox that is basically an infomercial

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Speaker 5: for the book.

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Speaker 14: I made the decision to publish this book and to

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Speaker 14: sit face to face with the killer because I wanted

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Speaker 14: him and the men who broke my heart and your

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Speaker 14: hearts to tell the truth, to confess their sins, to

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Speaker 14: do penance, and to amend their life lives.

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Speaker 5: The public outcry is immediate. This is a bridge too

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Speaker 5: far from taste for anyone. TV advertisers Balk and ten

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Speaker 5: Fox affiliates say they'll refuse to air the special. People

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Speaker 5: are openly horrified at the prospect of selling a book

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Speaker 5: that hypothetically confesses to a murder that Simpson has been

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Speaker 5: let off for. Just because you can publish something doesn't

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Speaker 5: mean you should. It feels like spitting on the graves

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Speaker 5: of the murder victims, with even more publicity for OJ Simpson,

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Speaker 5: whose fame and money helped him get off in court,

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Speaker 5: in tandem with the post LA riots backlash to the

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Speaker 5: relentless anti black racism of the LA police and sheriff's departments.

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Speaker 5: Certainly there's still a reckoning to be had with OJ

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Speaker 5: Simpson and what his notoriety says about American society. But

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Speaker 5: maybe OJ Simpson is not the person who should get

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Speaker 5: to reckon with it.

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Speaker 2: Free speech is one of our basic value. But I

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Speaker 2: have to say that this book deals with some other

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Speaker 2: values of mind which are in conflict with that. Russ Lawrence,

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Speaker 2: president of the American Booksellers Association.

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Speaker 5: Harper Collins, withdraws the existing copies of If I Did

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Speaker 5: It and shreds them, promising not to print any more

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Speaker 5: copies of the book. Judith Reagan publishes a statement defending

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Speaker 5: the book in The New York Times called Why I

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Speaker 5: Did It in November of two thousand and six. Her

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Speaker 5: op ed is.

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Speaker 14: Uh, like Nicole Brown, I believed with all my heart

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Speaker 14: and then I got punched in the face.

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Speaker 5: Judith Reagan's op ed tries to make an argument that

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Speaker 5: releasing the If I Did It. Book is about protecting

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Speaker 5: abuse survivors like herself, not exploiting a gruesome double murder.

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Speaker 5: Reagan tells the story of her own physical abuse at

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Speaker 5: the of her own handsome, charming, rich, abusive access. She

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Speaker 5: doesn't understand why everyone is so mad at her when

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Speaker 5: Katie Kuric has already interviewed O. J. Simpson on television

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Speaker 5: on Primetime no Less.

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Speaker 14: To publish does not mean to endorse, It means to

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Speaker 14: make public. If you doubt that, as the mainstream publishers

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Speaker 14: who keep Adolf Hitler's mind comp in print to this day,

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Speaker 14: they are likely to say that there is a historical

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Speaker 14: value in publishing such material so that the public can

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Speaker 14: read and judge for themselves the thoughts and attempt at

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Speaker 14: defenses of an indefensible man. There is historical value in

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Speaker 14: such work. There is value for law enforcement, for students

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Speaker 14: of psychology, for anyone who wants to gain insight into

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Speaker 14: the mind of a sociopath.

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Speaker 5: According to Judith Reagan, she wants readers to learn learn

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Speaker 5: how OJ Simpson thinks in his own words, because she

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Speaker 5: wants to understand how abusers behave. She claims that OJ

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Speaker 5: himself cannot legally profit off the book, and that she

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Speaker 5: was told the money would go only to his kids.

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Speaker 1: Murders don't usually involve a nod in a wink David Rosenthal,

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Speaker 1: Simon and Schuster.

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Speaker 5: But it's revealed that OJ got at least a million

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Speaker 5: dollar advance for If I did It. Fred Goldman, father

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Speaker 5: of victim Ron Goldman, sues OJ for fraud, saying the

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Speaker 5: book deal is a workaround for Simpson to profit without

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Speaker 5: paying the Goldman family the nineteen million dollars he owes them.

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Speaker 5: Fred Goldman accuses OJ of establishing shell corporations to get

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Speaker 5: paid under the table and moving to Florida to avoid

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Speaker 5: seizure of his major assets like properties. How can OJ

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Speaker 5: be doing penance with a press tour when he still

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Speaker 5: hasn't paid the Goldman family and is avoiding real culplate ability.

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Speaker 20: How else can it be said he has a significant

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Speaker 20: judgment against him, He's made every effort to avoid that judgment,

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Speaker 20: and as far as we're concerned, he's doing it in

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Speaker 20: a manner that's clearly fraudulent. Fred Goldman, Ron Goldman's father.

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Speaker 5: In Judith Reagan's telling, she just wants OJ Simpson to

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Speaker 5: confess and apologize. Her attempt to frame the OJ confession

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Speaker 5: book as not just technically legal but altruistic backfires spectacularly.

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Speaker 5: For the first time in decades, nobody is buying what

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Speaker 5: Judith Reagan is selling.

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Speaker 15: Judith played the damsel in distress, and Rupert liked that

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Speaker 15: very much. But of course he's no fool. He knew

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Speaker 15: what she could do for him.

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Speaker 21: I and Senior management agree with the American public that

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Speaker 21: this was an considered project. We are sorry for any

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Speaker 21: pain this has caused the families of Ron Goldman and

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Speaker 21: Nicole Brown Simpson, Rupert Murdoch.

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Speaker 19: They finally convicted John Gotti, and they finally took a

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Speaker 19: book away from Judith Reagan.

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Speaker 10: Anonymous HarperCollins executive.

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Speaker 5: Judith Reagan is fired from HarperCollins not over the OJ book,

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Speaker 5: which her boss, Rupert Murdoch allegedly directly approved before the backlash,

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Speaker 5: but for allegedly making antisemitic comments. There is gossip that

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Speaker 5: Judith Reagan called HarperCollins a Jewish cabal trying to take

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Speaker 5: her down. She sues Rupert Murdoch's News Corps for one

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Speaker 5: hundred million in a defamation suit, and News Corps settles

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Speaker 5: and says they may have made up the anti semitic

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Speaker 5: remarks thing. Reagan embarks on a media tour over her firing.

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Speaker 5: She tries to frame publishing If I Did It as

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Speaker 5: a free speech issue. She decries her enemies as sexists,

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Speaker 5: saying back sobers at HarperCollins are out to get her,

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Speaker 5: but her penchant for getting media attention has become a liability,

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Speaker 5: and so Judith Reagan, who pulled herself up from a

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Speaker 5: Massachusetts farm to the top of Manhattan, is officially fired

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Speaker 5: from HarperCollins on December seventeenth, two thousand and six, the

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Speaker 5: night of the annual News Corp Christmas Party. Eventually, the

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Speaker 5: Goldman family gets the prophet rights too.

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Speaker 18: If I Did It, Judith Reagan's employment with HarperCollins has

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Speaker 18: been terminated, effective immediately.

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Speaker 14: Everyone in this place is a pussy but me.

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Speaker 5: Jenna's book, however, is a huge bestseller, selling one hundred

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Speaker 5: and fifty thousand copies in its first month and going

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Speaker 5: through six printings. At thirty years old, Jenna Jamison is

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Speaker 5: now the most famous and successful porn star in the

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Speaker 5: history of the adult industry. Club Jenna's follow up to

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Speaker 5: Brionna Loves Jenna stars a porn star named Bella Donna,

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Speaker 5: a brunette goth girl who's part of the burgeoning all

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Speaker 5: porn scene. Bella Loves Jenna is a full on horror

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Speaker 5: movie which cashes in on the concurrent trend in horror

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Speaker 5: for what's called torture porn or goreno, which fetishizes the

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Speaker 5: gory killing scenes in nightmarish detail. Bella Loves Jenna becomes

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Speaker 5: the biggest selling porn title of all time.

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Speaker 7: It's weird because my life at the end of How

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Speaker 7: to Make Love Like a Porn Star, you thought it

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Speaker 7: was a fairy tale ending, and my life started over again.

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Speaker 7: It was so weird.

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Speaker 5: It seems like nothing will stop Jenna and the porn

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Speaker 5: industry from making more money forever. From here on out,

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Speaker 5: everything is blue, cloudless skies and smooth sailing right right.

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Speaker 5: But on the horizon, a big storm is coming that

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Speaker 5: will forever change the adult business, and the clouds are

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Speaker 5: moving in fast. Next time on Jenna World, episode nine

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Speaker 5: and a half, Moms, I'd like to film the history

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Speaker 5: of popular sex comedies from Fanny Hill to Porky's and

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Speaker 5: American Pie invents milf Porn. Jenna World is an iHeartRadio

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Speaker 5: production Executive produced by Anna Hosnier and Becca Ramos, supervising,

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Speaker 5: produced by Bay Wing, Produced by Victor Wright, script editing

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Speaker 5: by Jonathan Mills, engineered by Graham Gibson, and edited by

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Speaker 5: Rory Gagan. Today's episode of Jenna World featured Mo Fry,

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Speaker 5: Pa Sick as Judith Reagan, Laurence ser Video as Jenna Jamison,

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Speaker 5: Miles Gray as Kid Rock, Jack O'Brien as Mark Hoppis,

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Speaker 5: Will Menaker as Jonathan Davis, Justin Hans as Larry Flint,

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Speaker 5: James Austin Johnson as Howard Stern, Doug Lessen Hopp as

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Speaker 5: Joe Rogan, Grace Freud as Any Sprinkle, Angel Carreras as

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Speaker 5: Vince Neil, Audrey Kaufman as Maureen Reagan, Lulu White as

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Speaker 5: anonymous former friend of Judith Reagan, Mike Carlson as Jeff Stone,

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Speaker 5: Mort Burke as anonymous former Reagan Books employee, Brad Evans

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Speaker 5: as Dana Isaacson, Anita Flores as Jane Friedman, Paul Dautchney

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Speaker 5: as Ross Jeffries, Brian Moses as Neil Strauss, Sam Wiles

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Speaker 5: as Mystery, Chris Wade as Russ Lawrence a Mere Show

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Speaker 5: Create as anonymous HarperCollins executive, Blake Wexler as David Rosenthal,

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Speaker 5: Ben Bolin as Fred Goldman, and Grant Creator as Rupert Murdoch.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, honey,