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Speaker 1: Trump bombing boats off Venezuela to test to see if

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Speaker 1: now he says he's going to try to get away

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Speaker 1: with bombing Venezuelan's on the ground in Venezuela. And he

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Speaker 1: it worries me that the thought, let alone the statement

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Speaker 1: and conspiracy theory. But here we go again. How many

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Speaker 1: of today's routine Trump daily rapes of American democracy were

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Speaker 1: dismissed as paranoia and conspiracy theory ten years ago, or

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Speaker 1: ten months ago, or ten weeks ago. If seventy two

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Speaker 1: hours before Saturday's No King's protests around the country, we

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Speaker 1: where Trump's lackeys are calling everybody who disagrees with him antifa.

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Speaker 1: And Trump has declared antifa a quote domestic terror organization

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Speaker 1: acronym DTO and Trump has again this week Tuesday morning,

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Speaker 1: designated terrorist organization acronym also dto if we are blowing

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Speaker 1: up people anywhere, whom Trump and Trump alone gets to decide,

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Speaker 1: we're in designated DTOs and in the process we are

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Speaker 1: destroying all evidence for or against their guild or innocence.

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Speaker 1: How far in his madness and how far in Steven

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Speaker 1: Miller's evil are we from Trump blowing up people? Trump

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Speaker 1: even as his body disintegrates before our eyes, can still

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Speaker 1: manage Miller, of course, of whom even Trump said, we

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Speaker 1: don't want to bring him up to tell his true feelings,

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Speaker 1: on a blackboard, valuable accent of his He insisted the

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Speaker 1: president under title ten to the US Cave has plenary

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Speaker 1: needed to pretend he'd lost contact with the studio. Plenary authority.

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Speaker 1: Plenary means abs solute, no checks, no balances, just Trump.

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Speaker 1: Title ten of the US Code, under Title ten of

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Speaker 1: the US Code has plenary authority has boo. Title ten

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Speaker 1: to all of the use of all of the military.

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Speaker 1: Miller said, Trump has absolute use of the military in war,

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Speaker 1: probably just fishermen off Venezuela in order to throw red

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Speaker 1: or more realistically, after something like no King's protests collide

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Speaker 1: under my standing authorities as commander in chief. This morning,

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Speaker 1: the Secretary of War ordered a lethal kinetic strike on

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Speaker 1: a vehicle affiliated with a domestic terrorist organization DTO. Conducting

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Speaker 1: Terrorism intelligence confirmed the vehicle was associated with illicit terrorist

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Speaker 1: the record, that what I just read. That's Trump's message

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Speaker 1: from when he blowed up the latest narco terrorists or

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Speaker 1: sardine fisherman on Tuesday. I changed seven words. I think

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Speaker 1: it's way easier to do that when designated terrorist organizations

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Speaker 1: and domestic terrorist organizations have the same acronym. And boy,

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Speaker 1: is that not a coincidence? A reminder that a roundup

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Speaker 1: be one, which can be counted. Same city Tuesday morning. Ice,

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Speaker 1: come on, let's drop the pretense. It's Ices. Ices tear

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Speaker 1: Trump gave himself a weapon on the twenty fifth of

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Speaker 1: last month called National Security Presidential Memorandum seven, which, when implemented,

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Speaker 1: truly definitionally refashions America into a fascist dictatorship. This is

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Speaker 1: not one of those tough sounding but legally toothless executive orders,

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Speaker 1: This is acronym NSPM seven. Somehow they could not make

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Speaker 1: Here we go with Stephen Miller and the plenary power

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Speaker 1: I shouldn't have said that, and I have to now

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Speaker 1: addressed to the Secretaries of State, Homeland, and Treasury and

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Speaker 1: authority vested in me as President by the Constitution, meaning

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Speaker 1: if this is challenged, Trump will defend it to the

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Speaker 1: Supreme Court with the Federalist Society Article two inherent powers

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Speaker 1: Let's go to the videotape again. NSPM seven has been

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Speaker 1: Extremism on migration does that mean you're in favor of migration?

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Speaker 1: this evil murder while actively encouraging more political violence. Stephen Miller,

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Speaker 1: to this matter. Whether Trump actually does this and tries

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Speaker 1: reporting what I know, not what I think, still wrote

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Speaker 1: them with the former Congresswoman Elise Stephonic. Even Elis Stephonic

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Speaker 1: This is Countdown. This is Countdown with Keith Oberman still

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Speaker 1: ahead on this episode of Countdown. Before we get too

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Speaker 1: far away from the actual anniversary date, let's take time,

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Speaker 1: shall we to revisit the worst launch in cable television history.

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Speaker 1: At least the worst launch in which the network launched

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Speaker 1: is still somehow alive thirty two years later, October nineteen

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Speaker 1: ninety three and the birth of ESPN two deuce and

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Speaker 1: boy was it a deuce. Good evening and welcome to

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Speaker 1: the end of our careers. Ahead in things I promised

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Speaker 1: not to tell except it's all on tape first, believe

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Speaker 1: it or not, there's still more new idiots to talk about,

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Speaker 1: the roundup of the miscreens, morons and Don and kruegerfect

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Speaker 1: specimens who constitute two day's other worst persons in the world.

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Speaker 1: Good evening, You're welcome to you and Acre cries at

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Speaker 1: the bronze worst, Emily Compagno at fake News Channel. They

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Speaker 1: have a lot of dim bulbs there. I think they

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Speaker 1: breed them on a farm in Upstate Australia. But there

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Speaker 1: is an echelon of shallow, ludicrous hosts that transcend all

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Speaker 1: other echelons, the Kaylee mcinnaney, Harris Faulkner echelon in the

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Speaker 1: stupidity rankings, and one of them in this brood is

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Speaker 1: Emily Compagno Campanno. She and Fox attack those who are

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Speaker 1: criticizing Barry Weiss, the moron whom the Ellisons put in

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Speaker 1: charge of CBS News, And as I've pointed out by

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Speaker 1: reading the Elizabeth Lapato piece the other day, she's really

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Speaker 1: been sent there to take the fall as CBS News

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Speaker 1: winds down over the next decade or years, or it's

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Speaker 1: Barry Weiss, it could be months. But that's not how

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Speaker 1: they see it over there. Through the wonderful simple prism

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Speaker 1: that the Fox people talk about to themselves and the

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Speaker 1: world they offer to their cult, Barry Weiss, No, no,

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Speaker 1: Barry Weiss is being criticized not because she's an idiot

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Speaker 1: and a failure, but because she's Jewish quote Companio. This

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Speaker 1: kind of thing would make me laugh if there was

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Speaker 1: not an anti Semitic thread in there. Except the examples

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Speaker 1: of anti semitism Compagnon noted had no anti Semitism in

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Speaker 1: them or pro Semitism or religion or anything except people

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Speaker 1: like Jamel Bowie and Hannah Jones and Walker Bragman calling

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Speaker 1: her an unethical and talentless hack who has zero news experience.

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Speaker 1: Is that anti semitic and is a right wing operative?

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Speaker 1: So quote everyone at CBS News should quit in protest.

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Speaker 1: But it isn't even that subtle. We have to think

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Speaker 1: about and say, hey, wait a minute, that there's no

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Speaker 1: there's nothing, there's nothing to that whatsoever. Walker Bragman of

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Speaker 1: Accountability Journalism Institute, who I have quoted here before, is

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Speaker 1: one of the Barry Weiss critics whom Companio accuses of

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Speaker 1: being anti Semitic. He adds the Danumont here the finishing

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Speaker 1: touch quote. Did Fox News host Emily Companion just suggest

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Speaker 1: that I am a self hating Jew? I think she did. Yes,

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Speaker 1: that would be a yes. Mister Bragman is Jewish. Miss

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Speaker 1: Companio thinks because he's criticizing Barry Weiss, this makes him

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Speaker 1: anti semitic. Miss Companion is anti intelligence. She is in

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Speaker 1: fact a maroon. The runner up worse here a guy

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Speaker 1: named Andrew Gruel. What is the worst possible profession to choose?

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Speaker 1: If your name, if your family name is Gruel g

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Speaker 1: r u e l as in you know porridge. That's right,

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Speaker 1: become a self proclaimed celebrity chef. What kind of chef

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Speaker 1: are you? I'm a Gruel chef. In fact, my name

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Speaker 1: is Gruel. I specialize in Gruel.

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Speaker 2: Wait.

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Speaker 1: Reality is actually worse than that joke. I saw the clip,

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Speaker 1: I thought it was a joke. I literally thought this

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Speaker 1: was a Saturday Night Live parody complete with fake graphics,

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Speaker 1: because it read Fox News and Legacy Media downplays threat

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Speaker 1: of Antifa, and it identified the guest as chef Andrew Gruel,

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Speaker 1: American Gravy Concepts founder.

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Speaker 4: Wow, Gravy Concepts. Wow, but not just gravy concepts. This

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Speaker 4: is the founder of gravy concepts, like the Einstein of.

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Speaker 1: Gravy, the guy behind gravy Concepts Oppenheimer at the IIG,

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Speaker 1: the International Institute of Gravy. Apparently he's a real guy,

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Speaker 1: one of these RFK junior drink raw milk. Who needs

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Speaker 1: that effing pasteur lunatics. Only he cooks for a living.

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Speaker 1: And he was explaining that Antifa is a threat and

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Speaker 1: everybody in it has quote cabbage brains. See he's a chef,

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Speaker 1: you get it. Cabbage chef, you get it. Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you get it. Half of the Fox audience did not

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Speaker 1: get it. He was complaining about the picture chosen of

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Speaker 1: Trump by Time Magazine for its cover. Time Magazine, which

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Speaker 1: is now a right wing publication. The chef also put

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Speaker 1: out a retweet of Adam Carolla. You remember Adam Carolla.

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Speaker 1: He was Jim Kimmel's former on air partner, the one

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Speaker 1: who wasn't funny and didn't last in the business anyway.

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Speaker 1: Corolla suggested Katie Porter had quote mad cow disease, because

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Speaker 1: Corola is all class. The gravy gruel guy added in

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Speaker 1: a retweet that she should now launch a channel on

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Speaker 1: mootube because a guy like this gruel fella, who has

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Speaker 1: a five head and hair and a beard so badly

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Speaker 1: dyed it looked like he used gravy, he should be

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Speaker 1: telling us about the threats from a non existent organization,

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Speaker 1: and he should be making jokes about a politician's appearance

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Speaker 1: gravy concepts. Chef Gruel, Hi, I'm Chef Smallpox. Nice to

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Speaker 1: meet you. I shouldn't say that too loud. They'll put

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Speaker 1: him in the administration. But our winner, Janet Mills, the

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Speaker 1: governor of Maine, the Democratic governor of Maine, and she's

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Speaker 1: the worst today. She's been a fine governor, a good

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Speaker 1: Democrat in a growing, thriving, evermore blue state, and and

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Speaker 1: she just jumped the shark. She has declared her candidacy

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Speaker 1: for the Democratic nomination for the Senate from Maine to

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Speaker 1: try to unseat Susan Collins. Now, how could try to

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Speaker 1: unseat the deplorable, spineless, culpable American quizzling that is Susan

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Speaker 1: Collins be a bad thing? Well, sir, there is already

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Speaker 1: a viable Democrat in there ready to unseat the loathsome Susan.

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Speaker 1: I'm concerned, not enough to do anything, but I'm concerned Collins.

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Speaker 1: This viable Democrat is named Graham Plattner, and he's raised

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Speaker 1: four million dollars in less than two months. And he

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Speaker 1: is a rock ribbed progressive and forty one years old

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Speaker 1: and blue collar and part of the new generation. And

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Speaker 1: now we're all going to waste money and time and

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Speaker 1: focus and unity on a primary to get Janet Mills

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Speaker 1: a new job because she's term limited as governor. Because

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Speaker 1: what we really need in a critical election to kick

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Speaker 1: out Susan Collins, who is seventy two years old is

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Speaker 1: a Democratic candidate in Janet, miss who would be seventy

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Speaker 1: eight years old, who would be the oldest freshman senator

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Speaker 1: in history, because Chuck Schumer wants her there, because the

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Speaker 1: Democratic Party has descended into an old age pensioners club.

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Speaker 1: And guess what in a time when the Republicans have

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Speaker 1: nobody under the age of eighty except psychoes and Nazis

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Speaker 1: and militaristic sons of bitches, Democrats have a collection of energetic,

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Speaker 1: original thinking, dedicated, hardworking thirty and forty somethings and some

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Speaker 1: twenty somethings, and they should be in charge now because

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Speaker 1: it is the Chuck Schumers and sadly the Joe Biden's

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Speaker 1: of this party and of this age, who have helped

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Speaker 1: put America under the thumb of Donald ef fing Trump.

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Speaker 1: You guys failed, We guys failed. Time for us to

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Speaker 1: get out. I'll be sixty seven years old in January

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Speaker 1: if I live that long. And if you said, Keith,

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Speaker 1: we think you should run to replace Chuck Schumer, I'd

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Speaker 1: say thanks, I'm too old. I'm too old. And in

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Speaker 1: Maine we actually have somebody young and vibrant who resonates

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Speaker 1: in his state and isn't going to be seventy nine

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Speaker 1: the day takes the oath, and isn't going to be

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Speaker 1: a tepid Schumert, who, if she's sure he doesn't somehow

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Speaker 1: lose to Susan Collins and gets then reelected after being elected,

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Speaker 1: would turn ninety before the end of her second term.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about throwing out a forty one year old candidate,

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Speaker 1: assault of the Earth guy to get a senator who,

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Speaker 1: if elected to a second term, would be ninety. What

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Speaker 1: are we thinking here, Governor? You've done great, Go do

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Speaker 1: something else if you don't want to retire. I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying that sixty seven is time for everybody to retire.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that seventy nine is time for everybody

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Speaker 1: to retire. Keep going until you fall down, but go

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Speaker 1: be a mayor, run for the House of Representatives. Leave

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Speaker 1: the field clear for the person who will not somehow lose.

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Speaker 1: The age argument is Susan Collins, Governor Janet, She makes

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Speaker 1: Susan Collins seem young again. Mills how old? Satchel Page asked,

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Speaker 1: would you be if you didn't know how old you were,

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Speaker 1: you'd still be older than Susan Cowards Today's other worst

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Speaker 1: person in the world, to our number one story on

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Speaker 1: the countdown and my favorite topic, me and things I've

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Speaker 1: promised not to tell. And this one is going to

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Speaker 1: take a while. October one, nineteen ninety three, the launch

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Speaker 1: of ESPN two. I had already launched ESPN Radio for

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Speaker 1: them and was part of the law bunch of the

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Speaker 1: first regular hour long sports center. I was in year

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Speaker 1: two at CNN when they started. I was in year

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Speaker 1: two at MSNBC when they started. I was at year

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Speaker 1: two of the RKO Radio Network. Somehow the ESPN people

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Speaker 1: thought I was good at launches. No, no, not especially still,

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Speaker 1: they talked me into becoming the face of this first

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Speaker 1: of ESPN's endless offshoots, the first of the endless clones

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Speaker 1: of its television self. I wore a brown leather bomber jacket,

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Speaker 1: and I said the first words in the first actual program,

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Speaker 1: and they sounded something like this, good evening, and welcome

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Speaker 1: to the end of our careers. A three hour tour.

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Speaker 1: That's Mitch album, this is Susie Calber my new and

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Speaker 1: that's pretty much all anybody remembers of this unmitigated disaster.

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Speaker 1: ESPN two exists today. Of course and successfully, but it

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Speaker 1: only became successful when they stopped trying to make it

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Speaker 1: something different from original ESPN, and management, with genuine heartbreak,

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Speaker 1: accepted the idea that all the nation wanted was more ESPN,

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Speaker 1: not different kinds of ESPN that begat ESPN News, ESPNU,

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Speaker 1: ESPN plus ESPN, the Oho Tartart control ESPN. But that's

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Speaker 1: not what they wanted ESPN two to be. They wanted

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Speaker 1: it to be hip and cool, you know, for kids,

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Speaker 1: And they were going to make it hip and cool

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Speaker 1: and force it to be hip and cool if it

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Speaker 1: killed them and you and for that matter me. It

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Speaker 1: is why they took the co anchor of their most

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Speaker 1: successful sports center ever and broke up the partnership and

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Speaker 1: moved him to a new network that almost literally had

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Speaker 1: more people who thought they were in charge of it

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Speaker 1: than watched it. And why three months later, when Sports

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Speaker 1: Illustrated magazine chose ESPN two as the seventh worst thing

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Speaker 1: to happen in sports in the year nineteen ninety three,

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Speaker 1: only the seventh worst, we were grateful, and I then

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Speaker 1: scurried back to Sports Center and we all pretended like

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Speaker 1: ESPN two it never happened, and we almost never mentioned

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Speaker 1: it again, But the saga of why it went so

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Speaker 1: desperately and immediately wrong is worth telling in brief, and

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Speaker 1: if you will listen to it, I will tell you

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Speaker 1: something I have never admitted publicly before. Why when they

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Speaker 1: asked me to leave Sports Center after a very first

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Speaker 1: successful year on Sports Center to go do this Kakamami

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Speaker 1: new network thing, Why on earth? Given the choice, I

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Speaker 1: actually said, yes, nobody knows this. You will in a

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Speaker 1: few minutes. But first. By the time I went to

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Speaker 1: work there in nineteen ninety two, ESPN had finally moved

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Speaker 1: out of its perennial status of near bankruptcy and near

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Speaker 1: irrelevancy to profit and prominence. From a launch in nineteen

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Speaker 1: seventy nine through the mid nineteen eighties, the place had

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00:45:08,075 --> 00:45:11,355
Speaker 1: always either had a new owner or a new schedule,

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Speaker 1: or a new plan to avert bankruptcy. When I joined

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Speaker 1: the fledgling sports department at CNN in nineteen eighty one,

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Speaker 1: I used to watch my high school classmate Chris Berman

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Speaker 1: do his show called Sports Center from what was obviously

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Speaker 1: a closet with one light, no air conditioning, and no teleprompter.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes it would be twenty minutes long. Sometimes it would

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Speaker 1: be two minutes long. Each time, I'd look at poor

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Speaker 1: Chris schitzing and looking a little claustrophobic, and I'd say, well,

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Speaker 1: hooray for CNN Sports. We're not the worst. But by

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety two, ESPN had begun to be willing to

638
00:45:47,275 --> 00:45:50,355
Speaker 1: spend a little money to bring in a prominent local

639
00:45:50,355 --> 00:45:54,195
Speaker 1: sportscaster from Los Angeles me and give him the keys

640
00:45:54,715 --> 00:45:57,195
Speaker 1: to the eleven o'clock Sports Center. And this company, which

641
00:45:57,275 --> 00:46:00,635
Speaker 1: did not have any merchandise, did not sell anything with

642
00:46:00,715 --> 00:46:04,435
Speaker 1: its logo on it, finally decided to expand and launch

643
00:46:04,435 --> 00:46:08,155
Speaker 1: an all sports radio network, And when those plans did

644
00:46:08,195 --> 00:46:10,355
Speaker 1: not go very well, they spent a little extra money

645
00:46:10,395 --> 00:46:12,475
Speaker 1: and they talked me into moving to Connecticut three months

646
00:46:12,515 --> 00:46:15,515
Speaker 1: earlier than planned to launch the radio network, and it

647
00:46:15,555 --> 00:46:19,635
Speaker 1: was an instantaneous hit by early nineteen ninety three. Then

648
00:46:19,675 --> 00:46:22,395
Speaker 1: there were rumblings and then rumors, and finally an announcement

649
00:46:22,635 --> 00:46:25,435
Speaker 1: that they would build upon the radio success by starting

650
00:46:25,475 --> 00:46:31,555
Speaker 1: a second television network, ESPN and ESPN two. But and

651
00:46:31,635 --> 00:46:34,635
Speaker 1: from the beginning this was the point. It was not

652
00:46:34,755 --> 00:46:38,475
Speaker 1: going to be just another ESPN or the ESPN spillover

653
00:46:38,635 --> 00:46:41,395
Speaker 1: channel or the channel for when there's a great basketball

654
00:46:41,475 --> 00:46:43,755
Speaker 1: game and a great football game at the same time

655
00:46:43,795 --> 00:46:46,195
Speaker 1: and we want to cover both. It was going to

656
00:46:46,195 --> 00:46:52,155
Speaker 1: be different. There'd be live broadcasts of games, just like ESPN.

657
00:46:52,195 --> 00:46:54,675
Speaker 1: There'd be a studio sports show just like Sports Center,

658
00:46:54,715 --> 00:46:59,715
Speaker 1: but it'd be hip, you know, for kids in the

659
00:46:59,755 --> 00:47:03,155
Speaker 1: Sports Center newsroom. The assumption was the face of ESPN

660
00:47:03,195 --> 00:47:05,995
Speaker 1: two was going to be Mike to reach Mike had

661
00:47:05,995 --> 00:47:09,235
Speaker 1: had a very tough nineteen ninety two, and it seemed

662
00:47:09,275 --> 00:47:11,475
Speaker 1: like something that could re establish him in the company,

663
00:47:11,875 --> 00:47:13,955
Speaker 1: or if he had a tough nineteen ninety three, something

664
00:47:13,995 --> 00:47:16,315
Speaker 1: he could be jettison from if the whole thing went

665
00:47:16,395 --> 00:47:20,155
Speaker 1: up in flames. I heard Robin Roberts name mentioned once

666
00:47:20,235 --> 00:47:22,555
Speaker 1: or twice, and I don't know if they ever approached Robin,

667
00:47:22,715 --> 00:47:24,875
Speaker 1: and I think Tarico told me once they had mentioned

668
00:47:24,875 --> 00:47:27,555
Speaker 1: it to him, but never seriously. So when they called

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00:47:27,555 --> 00:47:30,075
Speaker 1: me into my boss's office in the spring of nineteen

670
00:47:30,155 --> 00:47:32,235
Speaker 1: ninety three, I just assumed they were yelling at me

671
00:47:32,275 --> 00:47:34,795
Speaker 1: for something I said, since that's what they usually called

672
00:47:34,835 --> 00:47:37,475
Speaker 1: me in for, or called me and Dan Patrick in for,

673
00:47:37,875 --> 00:47:39,595
Speaker 1: or called Dan in just to yell at him for

674
00:47:39,675 --> 00:47:45,635
Speaker 1: something I had said. Instead, they offered me ESPN two.

675
00:47:46,275 --> 00:47:49,555
Speaker 1: We want you to be to ESPN two, said John Walsh,

676
00:47:49,555 --> 00:47:52,835
Speaker 1: who basically ran everything ESPN did that was not a ballgame.

677
00:47:52,995 --> 00:47:55,435
Speaker 1: We want you to beat for ESPN two what Chris

678
00:47:55,435 --> 00:47:59,915
Speaker 1: Berman is to ESPN. They explained that there would be

679
00:48:00,035 --> 00:48:03,595
Speaker 1: younger sports on their ex game stuff and mountain biking.

680
00:48:03,595 --> 00:48:05,715
Speaker 1: They kept talking about mountain biking and a lot of

681
00:48:05,755 --> 00:48:09,915
Speaker 1: stuff with trees, but that the flagship program would match

682
00:48:10,075 --> 00:48:13,155
Speaker 1: my sense of humor exactly, that it would be snarky

683
00:48:13,475 --> 00:48:16,595
Speaker 1: and flip and with it and hip and cool, you know,

684
00:48:17,155 --> 00:48:20,275
Speaker 1: for kids. They said they would let me continue on

685
00:48:20,315 --> 00:48:22,955
Speaker 1: Sports Center until August and then have me work for

686
00:48:23,035 --> 00:48:26,595
Speaker 1: two months helping them design and rehearse the new show.

687
00:48:26,875 --> 00:48:30,875
Speaker 1: They actually wanted my opinion, and they offered to give

688
00:48:30,915 --> 00:48:34,755
Speaker 1: me like a twenty five percent raise. Understand though ESPN

689
00:48:34,795 --> 00:48:37,275
Speaker 1: of nineteen ninety three would fight you over an eleven

690
00:48:37,355 --> 00:48:40,275
Speaker 1: dollars cab ride on an expense report. They would call

691
00:48:40,315 --> 00:48:43,315
Speaker 1: you into a meeting, they would spend thirty minutes on this.

692
00:48:43,555 --> 00:48:46,875
Speaker 1: They would then offer you eight dollars. A twenty five

693
00:48:47,035 --> 00:48:51,915
Speaker 1: percent raise was the nineteen ninety three ESPN equivalent of

694
00:48:52,475 --> 00:48:58,595
Speaker 1: Eternal Life. Still I had my doubts. For one thing,

695
00:48:58,635 --> 00:49:00,955
Speaker 1: as it was, we seemed to be pretty hip and

696
00:49:01,075 --> 00:49:04,435
Speaker 1: cool on Sports Center. As it was, Dan Patrick and

697
00:49:04,435 --> 00:49:07,075
Speaker 1: I had an on air relationship that you could not practice,

698
00:49:07,115 --> 00:49:11,395
Speaker 1: nor design, nor cast. It was just there or it wasn't.

699
00:49:11,755 --> 00:49:13,835
Speaker 1: We were the two guys in the World War One

700
00:49:13,875 --> 00:49:16,235
Speaker 1: bunker who knew that the Jerrys would eventually get us

701
00:49:16,355 --> 00:49:19,155
Speaker 1: right in the psalm, So all we could do was

702
00:49:19,595 --> 00:49:21,755
Speaker 1: first take out as many of them as we could

703
00:49:21,795 --> 00:49:25,195
Speaker 1: and sing and laugh while we did it. But I

704
00:49:25,275 --> 00:49:28,395
Speaker 1: had two reasons for saying yes anyway, and I'll save

705
00:49:28,475 --> 00:49:32,115
Speaker 1: the one I've never told anybody at all for the

706
00:49:32,275 --> 00:49:36,715
Speaker 1: end of this recollection. The other reason was, believe it

707
00:49:36,835 --> 00:49:42,955
Speaker 1: or not, I'm I'm a team player. I am not

708
00:49:43,195 --> 00:49:45,635
Speaker 1: the guy who will come in and lie on behalf

709
00:49:45,715 --> 00:49:47,595
Speaker 1: of the team. And I am not the guy who

710
00:49:47,595 --> 00:49:49,875
Speaker 1: will turn away and say nothing when the coach is

711
00:49:49,955 --> 00:49:53,075
Speaker 1: slapping the crap out of one of my teammates. But

712
00:49:53,155 --> 00:49:56,435
Speaker 1: if you say, we are management, we have thought this through.

713
00:49:56,475 --> 00:49:58,115
Speaker 1: We want you to leave Sports Center to go do

714
00:49:58,435 --> 00:50:01,635
Speaker 1: ESPN two and be hip and cool you know for kids,

715
00:50:02,275 --> 00:50:08,675
Speaker 1: I will say yes, plus money. Only they had not

716
00:50:08,915 --> 00:50:12,195
Speaker 1: thought it through as it proved. The first problem was

717
00:50:12,235 --> 00:50:14,835
Speaker 1: the new network that was supposed to be different from ESPN,

718
00:50:14,875 --> 00:50:16,595
Speaker 1: and the new show that was supposed to be different

719
00:50:16,595 --> 00:50:19,395
Speaker 1: from ESPN. Sports Center was going to be run by

720
00:50:20,035 --> 00:50:25,195
Speaker 1: John Walsh, the guy who ran SportsCenter and basically created

721
00:50:25,275 --> 00:50:27,155
Speaker 1: what you saw then and what you see now, And

722
00:50:27,235 --> 00:50:30,835
Speaker 1: to actually produce the show, he chose Mike Bogad, who

723
00:50:30,875 --> 00:50:33,675
Speaker 1: was the coordinating producer of the eleven o'clock Sports Center

724
00:50:33,675 --> 00:50:36,515
Speaker 1: that I was doing with Dan Patrick, and Norby Williamson,

725
00:50:36,515 --> 00:50:38,835
Speaker 1: who was the line producer of the eleven o'clock Sports

726
00:50:38,835 --> 00:50:41,435
Speaker 1: Center with me and Dan Patrick. And although they would

727
00:50:41,475 --> 00:50:44,155
Speaker 1: not give me a title other than anchor, the other

728
00:50:44,195 --> 00:50:46,595
Speaker 1: guy running it was me the co host of the

729
00:50:46,635 --> 00:50:51,275
Speaker 1: eleven o'clock Sports Center. To add to this crowd of rebellious,

730
00:50:51,675 --> 00:50:55,635
Speaker 1: innovative anti establishment thinkers who yesterday had been the establishment,

731
00:50:56,275 --> 00:50:59,235
Speaker 1: John Walsh hired the sports editor of the Boston Globe,

732
00:50:59,315 --> 00:51:03,395
Speaker 1: Vince Doria. To my mind, Vince would cover himself in

733
00:51:03,435 --> 00:51:07,675
Speaker 1: glory at ESPN by once proposing a really bad idea

734
00:51:08,275 --> 00:51:11,395
Speaker 1: the laugh track for the Nick Mackai comedy segments. And

735
00:51:11,435 --> 00:51:14,635
Speaker 1: when I said that's a really bad idea, it's still

736
00:51:14,675 --> 00:51:17,075
Speaker 1: a newscast. What if we have a laugh track someday

737
00:51:17,075 --> 00:51:22,075
Speaker 1: when some team's plane crashes. He said, you're right, I'm

738
00:51:22,075 --> 00:51:24,355
Speaker 1: thinking maybe I don't know as much about this TV

739
00:51:24,475 --> 00:51:26,355
Speaker 1: stuff as I thought I did. Will you tell me

740
00:51:26,395 --> 00:51:28,315
Speaker 1: the next time I have an idea that's that bad.

741
00:51:29,275 --> 00:51:31,835
Speaker 1: But at this point, Vince was thinking maybe we could

742
00:51:31,915 --> 00:51:35,875
Speaker 1: differentiate ESPN two from ESPN by showing baseball and basketball

743
00:51:35,915 --> 00:51:39,435
Speaker 1: box scores overnight. There was an opinion, and Vince held

744
00:51:39,475 --> 00:51:42,915
Speaker 1: it that we should be the Christian science monitor of

745
00:51:42,955 --> 00:51:46,755
Speaker 1: sportscasts on ESPN two, which was definitely not, you know,

746
00:51:47,115 --> 00:51:51,315
Speaker 1: for kids. The show producers they brought in were also mainstream.

747
00:51:51,395 --> 00:51:54,435
Speaker 1: My friend and producer Ron Grellik came in from Los Angeles.

748
00:51:54,515 --> 00:51:57,315
Speaker 1: He actually thought they meant the stuff about younger sports.

749
00:51:57,675 --> 00:52:00,995
Speaker 1: He bought a magazine rack and subscribed us to all

750
00:52:01,075 --> 00:52:04,395
Speaker 1: kinds of biking magazines and hiking magazines, and nobody ever

751
00:52:04,435 --> 00:52:08,635
Speaker 1: read them. They hired producers from Madison Square Garden Network.

752
00:52:08,675 --> 00:52:11,195
Speaker 1: They hired associate producers from Sports Center and made them

753
00:52:11,195 --> 00:52:14,075
Speaker 1: producers to join me on the anchor desk. They hired

754
00:52:14,395 --> 00:52:18,115
Speaker 1: a newspaper columnist from Detroit named Mitch Album, and they

755
00:52:18,155 --> 00:52:20,835
Speaker 1: hired all the local sportscasters they did not have room

756
00:52:20,875 --> 00:52:23,115
Speaker 1: for on SportsCenter, and among them was a guy named

757
00:52:23,155 --> 00:52:26,915
Speaker 1: Stu Stu Scott, and Stu was great, but Stu and

758
00:52:26,915 --> 00:52:29,835
Speaker 1: everybody else just came in and did regular sports casts,

759
00:52:29,915 --> 00:52:33,875
Speaker 1: just as if they'd been on regular flavor ESPN. Finally

760
00:52:33,915 --> 00:52:37,915
Speaker 1: to be my real co host they were going to hire, well,

761
00:52:37,955 --> 00:52:39,675
Speaker 1: we never found out who they were going to hire,

762
00:52:39,715 --> 00:52:41,875
Speaker 1: because one day the word came through that the chairman

763
00:52:41,915 --> 00:52:45,675
Speaker 1: of ABC Cap Cities, which owned ESPN and everything else,

764
00:52:45,875 --> 00:52:48,915
Speaker 1: had seen this weekend sportscaster in West Palm Beach doing

765
00:52:48,915 --> 00:52:51,595
Speaker 1: a tennis tournament of some sort or rain delay during

766
00:52:51,635 --> 00:52:54,315
Speaker 1: a tennis tournament or something, and thought she was great,

767
00:52:54,355 --> 00:52:56,715
Speaker 1: And overnight there was a bidding war for her, and

768
00:52:56,755 --> 00:52:59,795
Speaker 1: we had just hired her to be my co host.

769
00:52:59,795 --> 00:53:04,035
Speaker 1: And her name was Susie Calber. Everybody on this renegade network,

770
00:53:04,035 --> 00:53:08,315
Speaker 1: including me, he was thoroughly non renegade. It became rather

771
00:53:08,395 --> 00:53:12,155
Speaker 1: apparent rather quickly that management's understanding of what made something

772
00:53:12,315 --> 00:53:18,515
Speaker 1: cool and hip, you know, for kids, was you ready

773
00:53:19,275 --> 00:53:23,635
Speaker 1: what clothing we wore. This is the story of the

774
00:53:23,675 --> 00:53:26,035
Speaker 1: infamous leather jacket I wore the first night, which you

775
00:53:26,075 --> 00:53:34,995
Speaker 1: will hear when countdown continues. After this, back to the

776
00:53:35,075 --> 00:53:37,355
Speaker 1: number one story on the countdown and things I promised

777
00:53:37,395 --> 00:53:39,995
Speaker 1: not to tell on Saturday's twenty ninth anniversary of the

778
00:53:40,075 --> 00:53:44,155
Speaker 1: launch of ESPN two, or as I described it to

779
00:53:44,235 --> 00:53:49,315
Speaker 1: Kenny Maine for his podcast yesterday, the Titanic Only It's

780
00:53:49,355 --> 00:53:53,275
Speaker 1: on fire First, as I said, the organizing principle was

781
00:53:53,475 --> 00:53:58,435
Speaker 1: forced hipness, and the organizing principle of forced hipness was

782
00:53:59,115 --> 00:54:02,195
Speaker 1: the clothing we wore, and that brings us to the

783
00:54:02,235 --> 00:54:04,915
Speaker 1: primary image that still appears whenever the law buch of

784
00:54:05,115 --> 00:54:10,515
Speaker 1: ESPN two is broached or googled. My infamous brown leather

785
00:54:10,955 --> 00:54:16,115
Speaker 1: bomber jacket fall comes early to Bristol, Connecticut. And if

786
00:54:16,155 --> 00:54:17,715
Speaker 1: it were not cold enough there at the end of

787
00:54:17,755 --> 00:54:20,795
Speaker 1: September nineteen ninety three, there was also something wrong with

788
00:54:20,915 --> 00:54:24,315
Speaker 1: our new ESPN two studio. No matter what they did

789
00:54:24,355 --> 00:54:26,755
Speaker 1: to the air conditioning system in there, it was like

790
00:54:26,955 --> 00:54:31,155
Speaker 1: forty eight degrees all the time. So I was standing

791
00:54:31,235 --> 00:54:36,235
Speaker 1: outside one day trying to get warm, contemplating the succession

792
00:54:36,275 --> 00:54:38,875
Speaker 1: of train wrecks that had been our first five or

793
00:54:38,915 --> 00:54:41,315
Speaker 1: six pilot shows and dry runs, and I was wearing

794
00:54:41,395 --> 00:54:44,395
Speaker 1: my brown leather bomber jacket because it was cold. When

795
00:54:44,435 --> 00:54:48,115
Speaker 1: another of the many executive producers, John Lack, came over

796
00:54:48,155 --> 00:54:50,915
Speaker 1: to say hi, and he was in mid sentence when

797
00:54:50,955 --> 00:54:55,555
Speaker 1: he looked at the jacket and went stone cold, silent. Wait.

798
00:54:56,195 --> 00:54:59,115
Speaker 1: He finally said the word eureka forming over his head.

799
00:54:59,555 --> 00:55:03,755
Speaker 1: Would you could you? If I asked you, would you

800
00:55:04,035 --> 00:55:09,555
Speaker 1: wear that jacket on the show? I pretended to hesitate.

801
00:55:10,235 --> 00:55:13,075
Speaker 1: I realized only the jacket could save me from freezing

802
00:55:13,115 --> 00:55:15,195
Speaker 1: to death in our winter on the TV version of

803
00:55:15,235 --> 00:55:19,035
Speaker 1: The Donner Party, And so I said, I suppose, And

804
00:55:19,115 --> 00:55:21,755
Speaker 1: that's why I was wearing that jacket. It was cold

805
00:55:21,795 --> 00:55:25,435
Speaker 1: in the studio. Why they gave Steve Buckley from the

806
00:55:25,435 --> 00:55:27,835
Speaker 1: Boston Herald a baseball cap to wear on the air

807
00:55:27,875 --> 00:55:31,475
Speaker 1: for his segments and wear backwards. Why they put other

808
00:55:31,515 --> 00:55:34,475
Speaker 1: guys in football helmets and insisted that nobody wear a

809
00:55:34,515 --> 00:55:38,675
Speaker 1: tie ever, not even former Boston College football coach Jack Picknell.

810
00:55:39,435 --> 00:55:44,075
Speaker 1: That should be obvious, you know, for kids. It became

811
00:55:44,195 --> 00:55:49,675
Speaker 1: rapidly apparent that all ESPN two was ESPN dressed up differently.

812
00:55:50,235 --> 00:55:52,875
Speaker 1: I had a leather coat, The on screen graphics were

813
00:55:52,875 --> 00:55:56,475
Speaker 1: in lowercase letters only the camera was not on a tripod.

814
00:55:56,515 --> 00:55:58,675
Speaker 1: It was carried around by a cameraman who soon had

815
00:55:58,715 --> 00:56:02,795
Speaker 1: a bad back. The other problem was exemplified by that

816
00:56:02,915 --> 00:56:07,555
Speaker 1: fellow John Lack. He had run MTV News and he

817
00:56:07,595 --> 00:56:11,835
Speaker 1: actually had some ideas about differentiating presentation and content for

818
00:56:12,075 --> 00:56:15,635
Speaker 1: younger audiences. But by the time he suggested the jacket,

819
00:56:15,675 --> 00:56:18,675
Speaker 1: he also had a second message for me. Listen, he said,

820
00:56:18,715 --> 00:56:20,715
Speaker 1: I can't get through to these people. They tell me

821
00:56:20,755 --> 00:56:23,155
Speaker 1: I'm in charge, and then they tell me our first

822
00:56:23,195 --> 00:56:26,275
Speaker 1: new hip revolutionary story is going to be a profile

823
00:56:26,315 --> 00:56:28,515
Speaker 1: of Doug Flutie, the quarterback. And I say, how's that

824
00:56:28,555 --> 00:56:30,235
Speaker 1: different from Sports Center? And they look at me like

825
00:56:30,275 --> 00:56:33,275
Speaker 1: I'm crazy, and they say, he's playing in Canada. We'll

826
00:56:33,315 --> 00:56:35,835
Speaker 1: be doing a story about Canada. Who would believe we're

827
00:56:35,835 --> 00:56:38,755
Speaker 1: going to do a story about Canada? But I know

828
00:56:38,915 --> 00:56:42,115
Speaker 1: you get it, Keith. So when we're actually on the air,

829
00:56:42,635 --> 00:56:44,915
Speaker 1: you have to keep it different. You have to be

830
00:56:45,035 --> 00:56:49,475
Speaker 1: in charge. When we're on you are the executive producer.

831
00:56:51,555 --> 00:56:57,315
Speaker 1: This was extremely bad news because by my count, this

832
00:56:57,355 --> 00:57:00,315
Speaker 1: would have made me the fifteenth or sixteenth different person

833
00:57:00,355 --> 00:57:03,955
Speaker 1: who believed they were in charge. There was John Lack,

834
00:57:04,075 --> 00:57:06,035
Speaker 1: there was Wall Welsh, There was a new vice president

835
00:57:06,115 --> 00:57:08,795
Speaker 1: named Howard Katz. There was Vince Doria. There were the

836
00:57:08,835 --> 00:57:11,395
Speaker 1: two sports center guys, Norby and Bogie. There were the

837
00:57:11,475 --> 00:57:13,795
Speaker 1: line producers. There were a couple of consultants. There was

838
00:57:13,835 --> 00:57:16,795
Speaker 1: the president of ESPN, Steve Bornstein. There was the chairman

839
00:57:16,835 --> 00:57:19,275
Speaker 1: of ABC who had discovered Susie Cawber. There was the

840
00:57:19,275 --> 00:57:20,875
Speaker 1: guy who put in the state of the art air

841
00:57:20,915 --> 00:57:23,355
Speaker 1: conditioning system in the studio. There was the other guy,

842
00:57:23,635 --> 00:57:27,235
Speaker 1: Walter Cronkite's lighting director. As he kept telling us who

843
00:57:27,275 --> 00:57:29,395
Speaker 1: put in the state of the art lighting system, all

844
00:57:29,435 --> 00:57:35,035
Speaker 1: of us individually in charge, so nobody was in charge.

845
00:57:36,675 --> 00:57:41,355
Speaker 1: The night before the premiere, So September thirtieth, nineteen ninety three,

846
00:57:41,435 --> 00:57:43,595
Speaker 1: John Walsh, the Sports center man, saw me in the

847
00:57:43,595 --> 00:57:46,795
Speaker 1: hallway and said, listen, I just got some amazing information

848
00:57:46,835 --> 00:57:49,755
Speaker 1: from audience research. Do you know which show in all

849
00:57:49,795 --> 00:57:53,435
Speaker 1: of television has the highest percentage of viewers who are

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00:57:53,475 --> 00:57:57,555
Speaker 1: aged eighteen to twenty four. This was an important question,

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Speaker 1: a relevant question because these were the kids, you know,

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Speaker 1: for kids. ESPN two had been created to get that

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Speaker 1: eighteen to twenty four year old audience. So I guess

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Speaker 1: the answer was, I don't know. Some show on MTV. No,

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Speaker 1: Walsh said, gleefully, it's SportsCenter, and I froze, and I said, wait, John,

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Speaker 1: if we already have the eighteen to twenty four year

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Speaker 1: old audience, why are we starting a new network to

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Speaker 1: get the eighteen to twenty four year old audience. Do

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Speaker 1: you really think they're gonna give up the show they

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Speaker 1: like and move to a new show on a new

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Speaker 1: channel just cause? And Walsh laughed and shrugged and shuffled

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Speaker 1: down the hallway, and I called a cab to take

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Speaker 1: me to the Hartford Airport so I could leave the country.

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Speaker 1: Only at the last minute I chickened out. The premiere

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Speaker 1: October first began with me, I swear this is true,

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Speaker 1: going to shave in my house and instead dropping and

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Speaker 1: breaking a mirror. The network signed on at seven with

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Speaker 1: the national anthem and some sort of statement from Chris

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Speaker 1: Berman blessing it, and then a very long sketch parody

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Speaker 1: of the then hit film The Fugitive, in which I

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Speaker 1: was the fugitive from Sports Center. Get it? The Fugitive

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Speaker 1: from Sports Center, You get it. Then the lights came on,

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Speaker 1: the poor guy with the camera staggered in and I said,

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Speaker 1: good evening, and welcome to the end of our careers.

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Speaker 1: The television sportswriter the Associated Press, John Nelson, was there

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Speaker 1: in the studio. He immediately flashed that quote to a

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Speaker 1: not waiting world, and ESPN two and Sports Night were born,

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Speaker 1: you know, for kids. The first night seemed okay, largely

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Speaker 1: because ESPN threw a party in the parking lot under

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Speaker 1: a gigantic tent, free food and booze, hundreds of staffers

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Speaker 1: and guests and celebrities and free booze. That place later

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Speaker 1: became known as the Tent of Consent. He don't ask me.

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Speaker 1: I was on the air for three hours. I had

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Speaker 1: nothing to do with this. Later that night, near the tent,

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Speaker 1: the network president stumbled crossing a little bridge over a

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Speaker 1: stream and wound up in the water. And he still

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Speaker 1: had a better night than we did. The shows bounced

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Speaker 1: from topic to topic and mood to mood, once with

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Speaker 1: Bill Pedo anchoring with me. Sports Night ran a mini

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Speaker 1: documentary on a high school basketball star who chose which

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01:00:29,835 --> 01:00:33,115
Speaker 1: college to go to to play ball at entirely by

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Speaker 1: letter and telephone. Only when he arrived did he discover

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Speaker 1: he was the only white guy in an entirely black conference.

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Speaker 1: We showed the first ten minutes of this extraordinary story,

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Speaker 1: then we promised to show you the rest of it,

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Speaker 1: and then we welcomed a live studio guest, Eddie Layton,

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Speaker 1: the organist from Yankee Stadium. He played a few tunes,

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Speaker 1: and then we went back to part two of this

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Speaker 1: very grim documentary about this very dim basketball player, and

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Speaker 1: that hour was kind of good compared to the rest

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Speaker 1: of them. Eventually, we moved Sports Night from Friday, Saturday

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Speaker 1: and Sunday nights to Monday through Friday at five pm,

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Speaker 1: so Sports Night was on in the afternoons. Though it

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Speaker 1: was December, the limitless air conditioning continued. Susie Cawber began

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Speaker 1: to wear a blanket on her lap just out of

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Speaker 1: camera view. I begged to be returned to SportsCenter, and

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Speaker 1: they agreed, provided I gave back the rays and extended

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Speaker 1: my contract for a year and gave back a little

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Speaker 1: bit more. Sports Illustrated at that point, still the leading

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Speaker 1: and most influential sports media outlet in the world, warned

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Speaker 1: US it was going to list in its year end

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Speaker 1: issue the worst things to Happen in Sports in nineteen

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Speaker 1: ninety three, and we ESPN two were going to be

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Speaker 1: on it. And when the magazine came out, there on

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Speaker 1: the list, behind the stabbing of the tennis star Monica

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Speaker 1: Selis by a fan of her rival, Stepfie Groff, and

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Speaker 1: behind Michael Jordan's retirement, and behind a college football player

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Speaker 1: suing his coach because somebody else became the starting quarterback.

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Speaker 1: There we were, It's Illustrated's choice as the seventh worst

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Speaker 1: thing in Sports for nineteen ninety three. And the reaction

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Speaker 1: of the anchors and the staff and even the management

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Speaker 1: and all eighteen people were in charge of ESPN two

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Speaker 1: Sports Night was unanimous, Hooray, we're not the worst.

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Speaker 4: We're not the worst.

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Speaker 1: We're not the worst. In my last week anchoring the show,

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Speaker 1: we discovered that Walter Kronkite's lighting guy had never spoken

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Speaker 1: to the guy who put in the air conditioning system.

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Speaker 1: Walter Kronkite's lighting guy had focused the principal backlight in

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Speaker 1: his state of the art lighting system directly onto the

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Speaker 1: principal monitor for the other guy's state of the art

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Speaker 1: air conditioning system. So the state of the art air

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Speaker 1: conditioning system had spent six months thinking the temperature in

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Speaker 1: the studio was two hundred and seventeen degrees. They let

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Speaker 1: me go back to Sports Center, providing I gave back

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Speaker 1: all the extra money, and I happily did it and

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Speaker 1: a little more. Sports Night staggered on for a few

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Speaker 1: more weeks before being canceled, and all the talent Stuart Scott,

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Speaker 1: Susie Calber, Philpedo, and the guy they hired to replace

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Speaker 1: me when I escaped back to Sports Center, Kenny, Maine.

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Speaker 1: They all went on to do SportsCenter. As to ESPN two.

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Speaker 1: We all pretended that never happened. It's just a bad dream.

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Speaker 1: And then there was that other reason I had agreed

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Speaker 1: to try it. I have not told anybody this. I

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Speaker 1: don't even think I told the other person involved this.

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Speaker 1: But the night before ESPN management called me in and

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Speaker 1: said we'd like you to leave Sports Center and become

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Speaker 1: the face of ESPN two, a woman I worked with

948
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Speaker 1: at ESPN said yes, she would like to go out

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Speaker 1: with me, but that doing that while we worked together

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Speaker 1: would be a disaster. So after management's offer, I asked

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Speaker 1: her if my new schedule, which took me away from

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Speaker 1: her department, was sufficient professional distance so that she'd feel

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Speaker 1: comfortable dating, and she said yes, So I said yes,

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Speaker 1: and we started dating and that didn't work out either.

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Speaker 1: I've done all the damage I can do here. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for listening. Oh my god, was that a mistake.

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Speaker 1: Most of our countdown music was arranged, performed, and produced

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Speaker 1: by Brian Ray and John Phillip Schanel are musical directors

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Speaker 1: of Countdown. It was produced by TKO Brothers. Mister Ray

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Speaker 1: was on the guitars, bass, on drums. Mister Chanelle handled

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Speaker 1: orchestration and keyboards. Our satirical and fifthy musical comments are

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Speaker 1: by the best baseball stadium organist ever, Nancy Faust. The

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Speaker 1: Olderman theme from ESPN two, written by Mitch Warren Davis

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Speaker 1: courtesy of ESPN Inc. Is the Sports music who wrote

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Speaker 1: the ESPN two original theme. I'm wondering if that was

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Speaker 1: John who did all of the music for us and

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Speaker 1: for Ken Burns. It's an interesting combination. Was it John,

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Speaker 1: I'll have to look it up. Not John Shelby. He

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Speaker 1: was an outfielder, John, I'll go look it up. Other

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Speaker 1: music arranged and performed by the group No Horns Allowed.

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Speaker 1: My announcer today is my friend Stevie Vancent. Everything else was,

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Speaker 1: as always my fault. That's Countdown for today. Day two

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Speaker 1: hundred and seventy of America held hostage just ninety three

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Speaker 1: days until the scheduled end of Trump's lame duck, lame

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Speaker 1: brain term, unless he's removed sooner by maga Epstein or

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Speaker 1: that pavement patch on his hand, or an escalator or

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Speaker 1: the psychopathy test or tail and all, or who knows

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Speaker 1: what the next scheduled countdown is Monday till then, I'm

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Speaker 1: Keith Olberman. Good morning, good afternoon, good night, and good luck.

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Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. For

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Speaker 1: more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

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Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts