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Speaker 1: NFL Fantasy Live podcast. James co here, your host. Got

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Speaker 1: as always, we start the show with your top headlines,

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Speaker 1: All right, let's start with some running back news. The

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Speaker 1: everything you read is that he's dead. He tours meniscus

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Speaker 1: But come on, James, you're like the biggest anti CJ

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Speaker 1: other guys a little bit earlier because he was in

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Speaker 1: that National Championship spotlight a lot the turnovers are there.

427
00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,080
Speaker 1: You would hope that would be something correctable. But I

428
00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:35,760
Speaker 1: think a lot of people are worried about him with

429
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:37,879
Speaker 1: the deep ball. But I don't know, man. I remember

430
00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:41,879
Speaker 1: watching him chuck a lot of accurate deep balls. Had

431
00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,160
Speaker 1: Mike Williams, which helps, and he's got that big range.

432
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:47,760
Speaker 1: But I like Watson a lot, and actually Ireland Lanzerline

433
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:51,040
Speaker 1: has him rated higher than uh kaen Kaiser from It's

434
00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,080
Speaker 1: worth all right, there you go, persur Line. By the way,

435
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,440
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson sacked just thirty two times over his last

436
00:21:56,520 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 1: eighty one dropbacks. That that's impressed is nuts. That is nuts,

437
00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,200
Speaker 1: all right? How about Mitch Drabinski out of North Carolina

438
00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:10,320
Speaker 1: six three to twenty. His measurements, from what I understand,

439
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,840
Speaker 1: will be in question when he finally steps on well,

440
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 1: because well it's because when he showed up at the

441
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl, he measured a solid two inches shorter than

442
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 1: what he was listed at at North Carolina so yeah,

443
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are gonna be watching

444
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,359
Speaker 1: to see how tall exactly he is in Indianapolis. Alright,

445
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,720
Speaker 1: So he's a one year starter at North Carolina sixty

446
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 1: eight percent completion rate, passing yards, thirty touchdown, six interceptions. Um.

447
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,480
Speaker 1: From what I saw, again, he's a one year starter.

448
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 1: I just I saw a lot of inconsistency. If you

449
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 1: saw him against f s U, you think he was

450
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,760
Speaker 1: the best quarterback prospect on planet Earth. If you saw

451
00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,199
Speaker 1: him against Stanford in that Sun Bowl, Adam Reank yikes,

452
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:56,639
Speaker 1: he looked terrible at him just starts laughing. Well, you know,

453
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,640
Speaker 1: I know that Adam Rerank watches a lot of these,

454
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:00,879
Speaker 1: you know, pack twelve Bowl games, But I love the

455
00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:09,440
Speaker 1: Sun Bowl. Who was uh? There was a guy who

456
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:13,119
Speaker 1: played with with La Danian Tomlins and a TCU was

457
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:17,199
Speaker 1: Basil Um whoever, like who you would have thought was

458
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,680
Speaker 1: better he was. He was a dope running back. I'm like, oh,

459
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:21,679
Speaker 1: this guy is gonna be great, and then you know,

460
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 1: it turns out and I'll always hit up LT like hey,

461
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:27,120
Speaker 1: what's he up to? And he doesn't like that. But anyways,

462
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 1: so yeah, there's something that was the thing. But Basil

463
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:34,760
Speaker 1: Mitchell Basil Mitchell, look at that good recall. I uh yeah,

464
00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,119
Speaker 1: they beat USC and the Sun or the Google whatever

465
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:42,920
Speaker 1: that was a and any of that. But the thing

466
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 1: with Mitch is the game you mentioned against Florida State.

467
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:48,160
Speaker 1: You're like, Okay, so maybe this is a big time

468
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 1: like the rising to the occasion you're playing the elite competition,

469
00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:53,159
Speaker 1: one of the better teams, Like, you don't want to

470
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 1: see him going out there and beating some of the

471
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 1: lower level uh Wake Forest or something like that in

472
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,919
Speaker 1: the A C C. You're like, off, okay, cool. So

473
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:02,639
Speaker 1: then he goes to the Sun Bowl and you're like,

474
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 1: all right, this is it because you're like because obviously

475
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 1: by this time you knew where the Bears were gonna

476
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 1: be drafting, and they're linked to a quarterback as that's inevitable,

477
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,919
Speaker 1: and you're like, this guy is garbage and I and

478
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:18,120
Speaker 1: I don't mean and I'm saying that here we go.

479
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's a lovely human being, but I think

480
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 1: that profect said that. You just came out and said,

481
00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:28,479
Speaker 1: um it was awful, and you're like what is going on?

482
00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:30,399
Speaker 1: You're like, I've lived through enough of this, Like I

483
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 1: don't need to see I want to see him go

484
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 1: out there and at least have something like where you

485
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,040
Speaker 1: hang your head on something like like it was bad.

486
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,439
Speaker 1: But because I think if there's one thing that if

487
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:41,119
Speaker 1: you're a fan of the Bears or anybody else like

488
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 1: who have watched bad quarterbacks for a while or quarterback struggle,

489
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:46,639
Speaker 1: you can always be like, well but he does this

490
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,920
Speaker 1: and it kind of like you make yourself feel better.

491
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 1: So that game did not leave me with feeling that way.

492
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,880
Speaker 1: And again it's like I can't I can't reckon with

493
00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 1: using a high draft pick on him because like, well

494
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 1: you could still again if you if you don't get

495
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 1: him and Pat Mahomes is there in the second round,

496
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 1: what's the difference? That's true? Um, I gotta say if

497
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,360
Speaker 1: you've never seen Mitch Drubisky and quite honestly, come on, man,

498
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 1: who who's really seen a lot of North Carolina football games? Ah,

499
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 1: he does look a hell of Am I wrong saying this? MG?

500
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 1: He looks a healthful lot like Jake Locker back there,

501
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 1: doesn't you know what? I saw your description of that

502
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 1: in the in the rundown and it hadn't hit me.

503
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: But then when you said that, I was like, oh, yeah,

504
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,880
Speaker 1: except I mean, he's a much better throw, He's got

505
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,120
Speaker 1: much better feel. Jake Locker had no field. I mean,

506
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 1: he just he just stunned it. I think I think,

507
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, I think Locker was maybe a little

508
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,159
Speaker 1: more mobile than than true. Whisky is not and not

509
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 1: and it's not. I don't want to paint Rubisky as

510
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,120
Speaker 1: being some sort of statue in the pocket. I mean,

511
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 1: by the way, fun fact, I told Jake Locker when

512
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 1: he was here before the draft, Yes, Mike bro you

513
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,160
Speaker 1: were drafted by the Angels, go play with Mike Trout.

514
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,159
Speaker 1: You'll have a much better time. And what did he

515
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 1: say to you? He's saying, go to heck okay, they smiled.

516
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Mark No, Well, I say, you know, I

517
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 1: my first I were hearing, you know, the hype kind

518
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 1: of starting on him in December after not hearing much

519
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 1: about him all year. And the first game I watched

520
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:20,400
Speaker 1: was that Sun Bowl. Was it like, what's going on

521
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 1: this guy? Uh? You know? I went back and I

522
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,239
Speaker 1: went back and I watched Tave and I like, then

523
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 1: I started to understand where some of it was coming from. Um,

524
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 1: you know, I think he has a tendency A lot

525
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,119
Speaker 1: of his throw especially a lot of the deep balls

526
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 1: within the just kind of drift towards the sidelines. He

527
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,959
Speaker 1: struggled with some of his accuracy. I think down the field,

528
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 1: I did have a little concern because so many of

529
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 1: the big players that I saw from that offense were

530
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,880
Speaker 1: heavily run after the catch, So I you know that

531
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 1: that gave me some concern. But I do think there

532
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: is there is talent there. But again, like like you know,

533
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 1: I mentioned with Deshaun Kaiser, he's a guy with with

534
00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,439
Speaker 1: a skill set but lacking a lot of sperience in

535
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 1: the sense that he was only a one year starter

536
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: in Chapel Hills, So I think there are still a

537
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 1: lot of things for him to learn. Man, I'm I'm yeah,

538
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 1: if I'm a if I'm a GM, i'd be scared

539
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,919
Speaker 1: to draft m R. Bisky. I don't know. It's just

540
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,679
Speaker 1: certainly not in the first I mean, there was there

541
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 1: was talk for a while that the Niners could take

542
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: him at number two. Oh god, that just yeah, God,

543
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: I just don't see that at all. All right, let's

544
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 1: talk about Pat Mahomes at Texas tex six completion rate

545
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: as a junior at Texas tex five thousand yards. He

546
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 1: had fifty let me have fifty three total touchdowns, forty

547
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,439
Speaker 1: one passing, twelve rushing. He had ten interceptions as well. Obviously,

548
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: it's the past crazy system there over at t t U.

549
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 1: Biggest question is to is whether or not he's the

550
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:43,360
Speaker 1: product of that passing offense. But he is a son

551
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 1: of a major league pitcher, and this guy, Alex Gillhard

552
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,719
Speaker 1: can ab solutely sling it. I don't know how much

553
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes tape you've seen, but man, I've seen bits

554
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 1: and pieces. I need to study all of these guys,

555
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:56,959
Speaker 1: especially because I'm probably going to be in the market

556
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 1: for a quarterback in my main dynasty league. Hey, there

557
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 1: is in the draft. Let his deep ball. It's the

558
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: sexiest deep ball. And here one of those guys that

559
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: you see that has the ability to throw from kind

560
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:10,919
Speaker 1: of any platform. Whether or not he's making that right

561
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 1: but whether or not he's making the right decision remains

562
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 1: to be seen, because he can. He's he'll he'll set

563
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: his feet in weird ways and throw it but still

564
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 1: be pretty accurate or on the run throwing across his body.

565
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I read a good profile on him by

566
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 1: Emily Kaplan for the MMQB this morning about how he's

567
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:28,439
Speaker 1: one of the draft's most kind of like enticing but

568
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:32,120
Speaker 1: puzzling quarterbacks because he's tall, he's got the cannon arm,

569
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 1: he's got a pro athlete as a father. You've seen

570
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: him make crazy throws, but in the same time you've

571
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 1: seen him make bone headed decisions. I mean, he kind

572
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: of reminded me from the little bits I've seen. Zolin

573
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: says Cutler, and a lot of people said Cutler is

574
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 1: a bootleg FARV, but you kind of see some of that,

575
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: like freewheeling and the gun slinger trope has been assigned

576
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 1: to him a lot. So he's he's fun. Man. I'm

577
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: gonna be curious to see where he goes and what

578
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: a team does with him, because if they're able to

579
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 1: just strain him a little bit. Like that was a

580
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: big thing with with far of two is when he

581
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 1: was drafted by the Falcons, he was a drunk and

582
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: a wild card and stuff, and it wasn't until he

583
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 1: got in there with Mike Holmgren and Ron Wolf and

584
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:10,800
Speaker 1: they really put him to the test. I mean, there's

585
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 1: that famous quote by him, like the first meeting he

586
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 1: was in with the Packers, He's like, what's a nickel defense?

587
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: You didn't even know? You gotta be kidding me. Story

588
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: have you google it? He leaned over to somebody in

589
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: the quarterback ground, you're kidding me. I like, I like

590
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 1: what I've seen of my homes and I'm excited to

591
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 1: watch more. He was the guy to me that's kind

592
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: of the biggest enigma in this top four because, yeah,

593
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 1: as you go through and you see the evaluations of

594
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: him on Twitter. By the way, six he's got he's

595
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 1: a big dude. Um, there's one half of of draft

596
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 1: Twitter that says, man, his footwork is a mess. His

597
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: decision making is off. You know, he makes a lot

598
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: of questionable plays sometimes. And then there's the other half

599
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: of draft Twitter that's like scoreboard, bro, and you like,

600
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 1: you look at the numbers and you look at the

601
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: results that he puts up, and I will say, you know,

602
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: you see the baseball background with him a lot. I mean,

603
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: obviously he's got the big strong arms, you got a

604
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 1: dad who's a picture. But I read that same m

605
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: MQB profile that that Alex mentioned, and part of it

606
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 1: talked about him taking BP and taking groundballs as a

607
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 1: kid with Alex Rodriguez and Derek Jeter, Is that right? Yeah?

608
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: You know that's what happens when your dad's major league

609
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 1: players stuff and your godfather's is LaTroy Hawkins, who played

610
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: major league baseball for like thirty seven years. Um, but

611
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 1: good watching him. At times, he throws sort of like

612
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: a short stop turning it, you know, like keeping the whole.

613
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 1: I mean, it's off the wrong foot, it's weird angles

614
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: and arms, sloughs kind all over the throw those things

615
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 1: where he's on the hop, it's you know, balling the

616
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,360
Speaker 1: whole runner blazing the first and you just gotta get

617
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: rid of it. That's kind of how he throws the

618
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: balls sometimes. And so it's gonna be a kind of thing.

619
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 1: The name that I came up with last night thinking

620
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: about it was sort of Jake Plummer ish um except

621
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 1: right handed, um and maybe a little bit bigger. But

622
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: he's gonna be the kind of guy where whoever drafts

623
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,479
Speaker 1: him when he plays, he's going to drive some coach

624
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: bonkers with some of the off the wall, you know,

625
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: kind of some semi bone headed things he does. But

626
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: when it all comes together, man, it's it's so much

627
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: fun to watch, you know. He reminded me. Um, and

628
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 1: we talked about all these guys that that have big

629
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: arms and kind of free wheeling. But man, Matt Stafford

630
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 1: came to mind a lot. He's got a huge arm,

631
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,959
Speaker 1: as we've mentioned, but I think he trusts it a

632
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: little too much because he uses his arm instead of

633
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: using mechanics. Right, So he doesn't set his feet very much. Um,

634
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: he doesn't square up his throw, as Marcus very you know,

635
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 1: uh put it very very well in that he looks

636
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: like he does, look like he's throwing as a shortstop

637
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: from all kinds of different angles. But yeah, he doesn't

638
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: set his feet, he doesn't square up. Um. That being said,

639
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: when he does do it, though, my god, I mean,

640
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 1: my god, the guy he looks it looks amazing when

641
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: he throws out. I really he's got the best arm

642
00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: I think in the draft. Um, Deshaun Kaiser is definitely

643
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 1: somewhere in the mix as well. But man, for my money,

644
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: give me Pat Mahomes, especially at whatever draft price. He's

645
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: gonna get all right, real quick, perfect past the torch

646
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: guy to Cutler. Oh that's a that's a perfect Like

647
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: you might as well keep Cutler. You're like, hey, hey,

648
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 1: catch this guy and don't do what he's doing. Hey kid,

649
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 1: here's a cigarette. Um, go ahead, just just sit out there.

650
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: I I wonder though, because you guys are absolutely right,

651
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 1: because he's gonna be He's gonna be that that quarterback

652
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 1: who does a lot of things that are maddening but

653
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: it ends up working on. Like, I think Stafford is

654
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: probably the most apt because Stafford does that. That was

655
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 1: another round. Yeah, Like he's just like whatever he does.

656
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: So you gotta have a coach who's willing to be like, look,

657
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: he's gonna do this stuff. Mahomes, mahomes. If he ever

658
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: becomes a starter, he will lead the league. No, no, no,

659
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: oh my god. That was years of that under farther

660
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: two years off my life. But all right, I found

661
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: the quote real quick before we move on to boy

662
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: young boy, Uh so far of head said, uh is now,

663
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: if you don't know what's going on, the trick is

664
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: to act like you do. I'm the starting quarterback and

665
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: Mike Comber would be up there and he's writing Nickel

666
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: defenses in I'm sitting there thinking I hear this Nickel

667
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 1: defense all the time and I'm not sure what it is.

668
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,360
Speaker 1: Then I'm thrown for a loop and homegar It says,

669
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: long yard a situation, Dime comes in and I'm thinking,

670
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: what the hell is dime? But I was like, but

671
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 1: I was afraid to ask because I'm the starter. So

672
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: after about our second year, finally he said to tie down. Yeah,

673
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: he goes to Tie. De Maury says, I have a

674
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:42,360
Speaker 1: question to ask you, and he goes, Tie, what's the

675
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: nickel defense? He gets real quiet and he says, are

676
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: you serious? Was Yeah, I'm serious. He says, Well, basically

677
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 1: they take out a linebacker and bringing a dB. Far goes,

678
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 1: that's it, and Ti goes, that's it. Far goes who

679
00:33:53,520 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: gives it blank? If that's not like the most us, Sorry,

680
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 1: I don't know what is Wow? What an achievement, wo Man.

681
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 1: Earlier this afternoon, we caught up. We made a call

682
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 1: into the wild. We caught up with Matt Harmony. Well

683
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: he actually answered the phone, which I think is something

684
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: of a surprise considering how big of a celebrity he

685
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: is nowadays. Matt Harmon, Welcome to the Welcome back to

686
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 1: the podcast. Pal. Yeah, this is weird talking to you

687
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: guys from a remote locate. I'm actually I'm talking to

688
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 1: you from Harmon's studios, not the NFL Network studios, which

689
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: is you know the Yeah, I know, we're gonna be

690
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 1: recording the first episode of the Fantasy Hipsters podcast in

691
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: the studio here uh here soon. Hopefully the audio quality

692
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 1: for that will be better than whatever whatever tin can

693
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 1: I'm talking into right now. But hey, how are you guys?

694
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 1: We can only guy, uh you know, we're we're the

695
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: dudobides Um. Things are well we um, but we we

696
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:07,879
Speaker 1: wanted to pick your brain about some of your wide

697
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: receiver expertise. You are like headlong into all this stuff

698
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: now and uh posting things everywhere, appearing on podcasts. And

699
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: that's for the record for anybody out there listening. By

700
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: the way, Uh, Matt was on Josh Norris's podcast. Can

701
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: we plug another podcast on here? We're doing it, We're

702
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: doing it. Not plug Josh Norris's podcast too late? We

703
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:32,279
Speaker 1: already last time. But you and Josh had a real

704
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: good chat about a number of wide receivers. Um. So

705
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: for anybody who wants to hear that, Hey, you guys

706
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: went through like eleven receivers in about forty minutes, which

707
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: was legit. Did that make you? Did that make you

708
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,719
Speaker 1: guys jealous when I did that first with him and

709
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: not you guys, it's a little kind of a d move. Yeah,

710
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 1: I would say, yeah, like not cool. I thought it

711
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 1: was okay because you spent way too much time talking

712
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: to him, and we don't have as much here for

713
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: you on the show because of your time constraints in

714
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: our so and uh and honestly, I can talk Bachelor.

715
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 1: There you go. That pay the way for rank to

716
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,839
Speaker 1: talk more Bachelor. So that's so. Anyway, I know we've

717
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: got a list of guys here to to kind of

718
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 1: pick your brain about. Um, I feel like there's a

719
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: top tier of guys in Corey Davis, Mike Williams, John Ross,

720
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 1: and I know you're talking to you and hearing you.

721
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: You have made the point that they are all very

722
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: different receivers. They all play the game very differently. Um,

723
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: but I'm going to put you on the spot and

724
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: ask you to do something you don't like to do,

725
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 1: which is ranked them. Um, if you had to, if

726
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: you had to pick one a one to three between Davis,

727
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: Williams and Ross, where are you going? Well, like you mentioned,

728
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: especially if because I think there's a separation between Davis

729
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 1: Williams and then Ross mostly because of Ross's injury concerns,

730
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: which we can talk about later, and those are those

731
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: are pretty significant, uh, for Davis and Williams as the

732
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: top two. I mean, it really is like a stylistic

733
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: preference thing. I'm not ducking your question. I will give

734
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: an answer, I promise, But like you know, Williams is

735
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: the pretty classic big vertical threat receiver because of what

736
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: he can do tracking the ball in the air, winning

737
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 1: the ball in contestant situation. So if that's your type

738
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: of receiver, I get why you would have him first.

739
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: But for me, Corey Davis is such an elite separator. Uh.

740
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 1: He's his seventy success rate verse man coverage is one

741
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: of the top three scores I've ever charted the last

742
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: two years when looking at college prospects. He's really impressive,

743
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: not only just getting separation on short routes but also

744
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: deep routes and also at getting yards after the catch.

745
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: He but he is not in William's class as a

746
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: contestant catch threat receiver, so they couldn't be more different.

747
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: But for me, because stylistically, I like guys that separate

748
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: really well, Davis is my number one um, all right, Uh,

749
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: moving on there a couple of guys. Now moving on

750
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 1: with another couple of guys that you and I have

751
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: both kind of talked about a little bit, Cooper Cup

752
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: Za Jones. They were both uh Senior Bowl Darling's Um

753
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 1: and guys who when you watch them on tape don't

754
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 1: necessarily seemed to pop. I mean, are is there too

755
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: much hype behind these guys? Is one of them? Both

756
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: of them potentially going to be something we see, you know,

757
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: making an impact next year? So I think we have

758
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 1: to always be like mindful of the draft process as

759
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: it unfolds. And Jones and Cup both have an advantage

760
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: over some of these other players that we're going to

761
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 1: talk about that I like more because we've already seen them.

762
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 1: And when I say we, I mean more like the

763
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: draft collective media or the draft engine, the machine. And

764
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,720
Speaker 1: they saw them at the Senior Ball. They saw Cup

765
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 1: and Jones excel really well. Both of them have big

766
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 1: production on paper, but when you look at them, it's

767
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 1: tough for me to see some of the optimism that

768
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: other guys have when they look at Cup and Jones.

769
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: Cup specifically, he's a big slot receivers seventy of his

770
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: snaps and his reception perception sample we're out of the slot.

771
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 1: He does not separate from man coverage well under sixt

772
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: success right, one of the lower scores I have in

773
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 1: the class. He's a good player in contested situations. He's

774
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: okay after the catch, but I don't really see something

775
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: that's like better than what Jordan Matthews is giving the

776
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: Eagles right now. And Jordan Mathews was the second round pick,

777
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 1: But I think Cup is more of a Day an

778
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: early Day three type of guy to me, Like, I

779
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: just don't see a future number one or even number

780
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 1: two outside receiver. And March spe talked about this a lot,

781
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: like you can't run an offense through a slot receiver.

782
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,320
Speaker 1: We've seen that tried and failed at the NFL level before,

783
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 1: So to see Cup getting potential round one or round

784
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: two buzzes is really confusing to me. He's definitely a

785
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: complimentary player. Um, there are guys I like a lot more.

786
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,879
Speaker 1: As for day Jones, He's interesting because I don't know

787
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 1: if you project him as strictly a spot receiver or

788
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 1: somebody that can move between the outside and the interior.

789
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: I think he does both pretty well. His success rate

790
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: versus man coverage is right at the class average. His

791
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: success rate for zone cover is very high, so definitely

792
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 1: again not a primary receiver. I'm interested to see how

793
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: he test. I just said I'm interested to see You

794
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 1: should cut that out of the podcast. But day I

795
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: would like to know what if he's gonna run? You know,

796
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: it's a combine. I wanna. I want to dig into

797
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 1: what kind of an athlete he is, because that's gonna

798
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: say a lot more to me about his prospects. But overall,

799
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: I like Jones more than Cup. The cup type is

800
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,399
Speaker 1: pretty confusing, just to the you agree that it got

801
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:31,359
Speaker 1: to if I think it dies down after we see

802
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 1: some of these other guys the combin. Do you think

803
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting to see which one is a better

804
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 1: pro No, it will be boring. It definitely went real

805
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 1: quick about j Jones. You know, and I know that

806
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,359
Speaker 1: we've talked about. Because you don't necessarily see a guy

807
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,320
Speaker 1: run the full route tree on tape doesn't mean he can't.

808
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:52,359
Speaker 1: But is there any worry for you about the fact

809
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,439
Speaker 1: that so much of Z Jones production seemed to come

810
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,720
Speaker 1: from bubble screens? He just a little short thump boss

811
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:01,399
Speaker 1: that he turned turned into bigger plays. Yeah, so third

812
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: teen point four percent of the routes I charted worth

813
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 1: screen routes, as you mentioned another eighteen percent or slant routes.

814
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 1: You know, he's definitely not a player that's gonna be

815
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 1: used in the vertical game at all. He's pretty inexperienced

816
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 1: in terms of outside breaking routes. So again, I think

817
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: that's kind of what you should expect for. I mean,

818
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 1: a player like Cole Beasley is a really easy role

819
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: to project Zay Jones into. I know that doesn't sound sexy,

820
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 1: It certainly doesn't sound interesting from a fantasy angle at all,

821
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 1: like somebody that you want to draft on your team,

822
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: But in terms of just rejecting to the NFL, I

823
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,359
Speaker 1: think there's like a legit role there for it. It's

824
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: just the feeling that I question with Jones, and I

825
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: think that's a fair question for you to ask. Um. Look,

826
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 1: James co made this list of wide receivers, but I'm

827
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,320
Speaker 1: gonna say, yeah, you gotta go pack these two pack twelves.

828
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 1: The pactswell guys like I don't want to been a

829
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: lot of times about Chad Hanson and Juju Smith. Why

830
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: not look, I and I one because I watched Chad

831
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: Hanson and it just made me sad about David's Webb.

832
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:58,320
Speaker 1: It made me sad about David's Webb is what it

833
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 1: made me. Come on and then Juju, I just like

834
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 1: Davis Webb Man. People really like Davis Webb. I am,

835
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 1: I am on Davis Webb and and I don't want

836
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 1: to ask about Juju because I don't want to hear

837
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 1: Matt Harmon dump on the USC receiver because I know

838
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not US receivers at my right. You're

839
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,240
Speaker 1: not gonna dumb on him because he's a USC receiver.

840
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: You just gonna he just happens to be the USC receiver.

841
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 1: And am I right? Am I right? Not right? Listen,

842
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: So let's let's start with Let's start with Chad Hanson. Uh.

843
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 1: I know some people have mocked him as like a

844
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 1: potential top five receiver in this class. I know Dame Brueger,

845
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 1: I think from CVS is really into Chad Hanson. I

846
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 1: know other people that really like him as kind of

847
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: a Day two prospect. He's definitely a Day three guy

848
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: for me. And beyond just what you see on film

849
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: or what he does in in terms of playing the

850
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 1: game of football. What's questioning. What's what's questionable to me

851
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 1: is like he didn't play at all last year. I

852
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:53,720
Speaker 1: know he was a transfer and everything, but he didn't

853
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 1: he didn't beat out several guys that could not like

854
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 1: go on to become first or second round picks in

855
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: the NFL. Like he's I am behind Kenny Lawler who

856
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,320
Speaker 1: was the seventh round pick of the Seahawks. He was

857
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: playing behind Trevor Davis who got drafted late by the Packers. Uh,

858
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: Stephen Anderson, a tight end wide receiver hybrid that was

859
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 1: undrafted by the Texans. Like he was behind all those

860
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 1: guys in the pecky order last year. Why is that?

861
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 1: Why couldn't he beat out those players? Now? To me,

862
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: he's a guy that has some interesting abilities, definitely, Like

863
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 1: I think he gets a good separation underneath and and

864
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: and sometimes in the vertical game. But his contested catch

865
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 1: conversion rate is that's not good. He does not he

866
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 1: has a big catch radius. I think he's athletic in

867
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 1: terms of leaping, but when there's actual contact involved, that's

868
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,399
Speaker 1: where things get questionable. For Chad Hanson. Also, I've over

869
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 1: the last like three years charting these receivers in depth.

870
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: I've been really obsessed with, like honing in on these

871
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 1: guys that only played from one side of the field

872
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: because I think that that grtens the learning curve because

873
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 1: in the NFL you're asked to move from left receiver

874
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: to right receiver into the slot sometimes. I mean it's

875
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: it's like drastically high to see a receiver play his

876
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:04,400
Speaker 1: snaps on one side of the field at the at

877
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: the NFL level. A guy like chat Hanson, he played

878
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:10,800
Speaker 1: on the right side on ninety seven of his reception

879
00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: perception snaps, Like that's a lot. That's the highest skew

880
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 1: that I have in the class of any player. Uh So,

881
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: I think he's got a huge learning curve, and I

882
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: also just questioned what's the upside there? So the chat

883
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 1: Hanson hype to me is something I'm not in on.

884
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 1: And Juju Smith Schuster, I think it's I feel the

885
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 1: same way about him as I did about Tyler Boyd

886
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 1: last year. I don't think he's a bad player. I

887
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 1: didn't think Boyd was a bad player, but I think

888
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 1: they have very specific roles and it's just about adjusting

889
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 1: the expectations for them. Um Juju is another guy. I

890
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 1: really want to see what he measures in it at

891
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 1: the combine. Because he's listed at six two two twenty.

892
00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: I've got a really good quote unquote feeling he's not

893
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 1: six two and two twenty, and so that's gonna be

894
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 1: an important note to get out of him from this weekend.

895
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:01,920
Speaker 1: U also just how athletic he is, because to me,

896
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 1: he's not an elite separator. He's not elite at playing

897
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: the ball in the air or winning contested catches, and

898
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 1: he's just okay after the catch. So again, I just

899
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 1: don't see a future first, second, or even early third

900
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: round drafting for him. I think he's a replaceable type player.

901
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: How about Matt Harmon? What's up? Hell, James co here?

902
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: Look at Matt Harmon just dumping all over the pack

903
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 1: twelve guys. It's a little hater. And this is what

904
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 1: good timing? What good time? Had you come right unloading

905
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: on Chat? I think we should I think we should

906
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,760
Speaker 1: pull the curtain back. Is that James knew that Harmon

907
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 1: had a tight window, so he's sent in a false

908
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: a face text. I can't be there for a while,

909
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 1: And the moment he starts talking about Chat, Hanson. Oh,

910
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 1: hello everybody, and guys, hey here, he thought, Hey, my,

911
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 1: my theory, my theory being on the other end of

912
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 1: this is that he's actually been there the whole time

913
00:45:58,080 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 1: right now, that would have been better. I have one

914
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:04,800
Speaker 1: quick question for comparison's sake. I know Kevin White famously

915
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:06,960
Speaker 1: played predominantly on the one side. He said, uh, and

916
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: your sample that ched Hanson was like, fient, what was

917
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 1: Kevin White's percentage if you remember or have that, that

918
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 1: was that was in the eighties. So I mean, if

919
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 1: you let me blabberate here for a few seconds, I

920
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:23,240
Speaker 1: can pull up like the historical standpoint of what guys

921
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 1: over the last two seasons that I've charted. Yeah, that's

922
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 1: the high. Hanson's the highest on like one side of

923
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: the field at right wide receiver this this year. The

924
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:32,919
Speaker 1: other only other guy that I have that's even close

925
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: to that in the range of Ishmael is the more

926
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 1: of the Baylor receiver who's not invited to combine because

927
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 1: he took a couple of swipes at his dog on

928
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: a video. But real athletic guy. He only played on

929
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 1: like the left side of the field predominantly. But you

930
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: just don't see a lot of guys have that sort

931
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: of usage rate and then come in and hit the

932
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: ground running in the NFL, because it's just a muscle

933
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: memory thing. Like it's obviously you're running the same routes,

934
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: but you're doing it from the opposite side. It's like trying, Yeah,

935
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 1: I can write, I can't write really well with my

936
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 1: right hand, but theoretically I can write. I can write

937
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 1: with my right hand, but in while you're writing the

938
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,360
Speaker 1: same words, trying to do it from your with your

939
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,839
Speaker 1: left hand is very, very different. I think in football terms,

940
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 1: I think the closest thing is right tackle left tackle right.

941
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 1: I mean it's like it's a lot of guys resist

942
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 1: moving from left tackle to right tackle because it's, like

943
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: you said, muscle memory. But um, in regard to Chat,

944
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: if I could stick up for him for just a second, Um,

945
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 1: you know, you ask all the question, how come we

946
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 1: didn't beat out this guy? How come we didn't beat

947
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: out Kenny? How can we? I got two words for you,

948
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 1: sunny Dikes. It's like shot here. We haven't had one

949
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 1: in a couple episodes. I mean, yeah, so that that

950
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 1: would just be that would be my overall take. But um,

951
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 1: I think I think what I like about Chad Hansen

952
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 1: is the fact I think he's got good long speed. Um,

953
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: you know, short area. I don't think he's quite there,

954
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: but I like his long speed. And I'm actually surprised

955
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 1: that he didn't have a very good contest to catch

956
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 1: rate because I tell you what, just watching him playing

957
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 1: um and again I didn't break down game tap, but

958
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 1: just having watched just about every single damn chat Hanson

959
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:10,359
Speaker 1: game available, UM, I thought he made a lot of

960
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,440
Speaker 1: good grabs um and I thought he showed a lot

961
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 1: of especially along the sideline. I really liked his balance

962
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,440
Speaker 1: and and his footwork along the sides. Yeah, I think

963
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,879
Speaker 1: there's just a difference between like making a highlight real

964
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 1: catch and making a contested catch, and you know, and

965
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 1: also like again, I mean I talked about stuff all

966
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: the time, but like sometimes you see a guy do

967
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: something you know two or three times and like automatic

968
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 1: brain just registers like this is the thing he does.

969
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 1: But then when you really go back and actually logged

970
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:40,400
Speaker 1: the data, you you're kind of surprised. But uh, yeah, no,

971
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:41,719
Speaker 1: I mean I agree with you. I think there are

972
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 1: certainly positive to his game, Like you mentioned, like the

973
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 1: long speed when he runs a slant route and just

974
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:49,920
Speaker 1: like asked the defender to just keep up with him.

975
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,359
Speaker 1: If he can get that separation off the line, which

976
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,879
Speaker 1: he's pretty good at. Uh, if he can get away

977
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 1: from a defender, and overall, I think he's gonna be

978
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 1: I think he has a role in the NFL. I

979
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: don't think he's a like a worthless prospect. Again, it's

980
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: just with a lot of these guys, it's just context.

981
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: What's the team going to spend on him, you know where?

982
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 1: And all that. So that's where I feel about. All right,

983
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: before you see out of here, Let's let's letten that.

984
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 1: I'm happy though, two guys that you really love. So,

985
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 1: you know, the the internet waits with bated breath to

986
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 1: figure out who are Matt Harmon's guys for the year.

987
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 1: Who is boy young boys boy in the trap? I

988
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:26,840
Speaker 1: know we got I know we got two names. Carlos

989
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 1: Henderson from Louisiana Tech, Chris Godwin from Penn State. And

990
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 1: I know that every USC fan listening to this is

991
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 1: shuddering because of the way Godwin just bodied their defense

992
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:39,839
Speaker 1: throughout the Rose Bowl. Yeah, that Rose Bowl game from

993
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: Chris Godwin is is the best game i've I've ever

994
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: charted for for a player this year in terms of

995
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,840
Speaker 1: the college prospects. Really, I mean that was impressive that

996
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: I watched it live and then like going back and charting,

997
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, this guy was what a

998
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: baller um godwin to me he has. He has pretty

999
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 1: much everything that you want in a wide receiver prospect.

1000
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 1: His contested catch conversion rate eighty five point seven percent.

1001
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,399
Speaker 1: Several of those came in that Rose Bowl game. That's

1002
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: the best I've had over the last two years, even

1003
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 1: better than Josh Docks, so point seven percent of a difference,

1004
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 1: but that is the best score I've had over the

1005
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,359
Speaker 1: last two years. He has a seventy three point five

1006
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 1: percent success rate verse man coverage that's above the class average,

1007
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 1: above the class average, and zone press and double coverage UM.

1008
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 1: And he's also solid after the catch. Not one of

1009
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:28,919
Speaker 1: the best guys in this class, but solid after the catch.

1010
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 1: So God went to me. He's also just He's gonna

1011
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 1: be twenty one years old as a rookie. I think

1012
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 1: he's got a lot of upside. I've I've heard from

1013
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 1: a pretty good source that some teams have him have

1014
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: a first round grade on him. Some have an early

1015
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 1: second round grade on him, and I know that there's

1016
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 1: some good expectations for what he does this week at

1017
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: the Combine. So if we see him go off there

1018
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: and have a good comment, I think we're gonna start

1019
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:55,400
Speaker 1: to see guys like god when these younger physical specimens.

1020
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna start to get the hype that

1021
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:00,600
Speaker 1: we've seen Za Jones and Cooper Cut the guys who

1022
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: that are have big productive resumes and uh and has

1023
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 1: good senior bolls. I love Godwin. I really want him

1024
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 1: to go to a good team that can nurture that

1025
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 1: development because I think there's a ton of upside there. Um.

1026
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 1: And then moving to Carlos Henderson, Yeah, this guy is great.

1027
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 1: I mean his success rate versus don't coverage at nine

1028
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: is the highest over the last two years. Stay with

1029
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 1: the success rate versus press coverage, which, to be fair,

1030
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: in a little conference that Louisiana Tech, he didn't see

1031
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: a ton of but ninety two point six that's the

1032
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:33,920
Speaker 1: best over the last two years. And he's incredible. He's

1033
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 1: the best receiver in this class with the ball in

1034
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 1: his hand. His multiple broken tackle rate of over thirty

1035
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 1: is the best over the last two years as well too,

1036
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 1: so you can see that. You know, I know a

1037
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 1: lot of people are going to get the level of

1038
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 1: competition questions. Uh, you know, he played at Louisiana Tech,

1039
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 1: and I get that, But when you put that in

1040
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 1: context of how incredible his scores are across the board,

1041
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 1: that's that's what makes him such a great respect to me.

1042
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,320
Speaker 1: I think he's going to have a big combine this weekend.

1043
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: You I love I love Carlos also down there when

1044
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: you put in the context that he played at the

1045
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 1: same school as future Hall of Famer Kenneth Dixon. Here

1046
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:17,320
Speaker 1: we go, here we go, right, and he's a way

1047
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 1: better NFL prospect than how dare you? How dare you?

1048
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,480
Speaker 1: And what's better than the Hall of Fame? I don't understand.

1049
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:28,399
Speaker 1: What's better than the hat takes? Is a hall of fame?

1050
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 1: Or what can Carlos Anderson be? Uh? And all hall

1051
00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:37,000
Speaker 1: of planet or I don't know, like the whole planet.

1052
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. All right, but thank you for the

1053
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 1: wide receiver takes And there's any one final note you have,

1054
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,000
Speaker 1: feel free Otherwise we'll let you get off to the

1055
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 1: gym and recording your other podcasts while you leave us

1056
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 1: in the dust. I think I think that this is

1057
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 1: a great, a really nice wide receiver class. You know,

1058
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 1: he's got the two guys at the top, and John

1059
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 1: Ross would be in there too if he wasn't, if

1060
00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:59,439
Speaker 1: it wasn't for injury questions. But there's depth throughout this mood.

1061
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 1: Even talk about player like Isaiah Ford, who I really like,

1062
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,800
Speaker 1: kind of up in that same group with Godwin and

1063
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,879
Speaker 1: and uh and Henderson. So this is a really cool

1064
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 1: wide receiver class. Got a lot of depth, a lot

1065
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 1: of interesting type too, so should be fun. All right, Well,

1066
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 1: thanks a lot, harmon. You love you guys. Hey, hey,

1067
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 1: if you're if you're listening, let me just throw a

1068
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 1: lugs out there. Men, no harm everybody. I didn't come

1069
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:30,960
Speaker 1: on this show and that at harmon, ladies and gentlemen,

1070
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:35,040
Speaker 1: let's have my round of class. Not obviously I mentioned

1071
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 1: the Fantasy Hipsters podcast. You can you can subscribe to

1072
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 1: that on iTunes. You'll see me tweeting about it. You'll

1073
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,720
Speaker 1: see franchise tweeting about it. Definitely check that out. Also,

1074
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 1: Reception perception dot com. That's where you can find all

1075
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: this analysis. All right now, I'm out, Thank you, and

1076
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 1: I hope. I didn't jump on that at that. The

1077
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 1: Fantasy Hipsters podcast coming out on iTunes in case my

1078
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 1: voice bled over that it's coming out today Wednesday. They

1079
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 1: are recording, and I would imagine they're going to post

1080
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 1: the first episode. If not, it'll be out Thursday, March second,

1081
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:08,200
Speaker 1: So check your feeds. It should be good. I'm excited

1082
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 1: those two jamokes. They're just gonna have an unfiltered platform

1083
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 1: for about an hour, so I'm really excited about that.

1084
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 1: I think that one of the cool things about Fantasy

1085
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:21,520
Speaker 1: and Friends was the was them, the their segment there,

1086
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,080
Speaker 1: the Fantasy Hipsters. I thought that was I I love

1087
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 1: seeing when people like that get an opportunity and not

1088
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: only when you get an opportunity like that, you go

1089
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:31,400
Speaker 1: out and you nail it. So that was pretty huge too.

1090
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:34,320
Speaker 1: So I mean, they did get nominated for a Fantasy Award.

1091
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 1: Did they win? I don't know they I guess they

1092
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 1: didn't because we would have heard about it. We would

1093
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:43,960
Speaker 1: have known. I wouldn't know because some big time you know,

1094
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 1: fantasy guys have me blocks. I don't I'll get all

1095
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 1: the detail. But still, I mean, and they are big, yes, right,

1096
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 1: so I get it. But I would. Uh, that was good.

1097
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:59,400
Speaker 1: I'm excited for their podcast. No, I'm really excited for it.

1098
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:04,440
Speaker 1: What's on with I spent I spent ten minutes, you know,

1099
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,839
Speaker 1: talking down to him when he's here, but he's gone,

1100
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,359
Speaker 1: Oh he's great, alright, great, all right? That was the boy,

1101
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,240
Speaker 1: young boy. Matt Harmon Wide Receiver prognost get a creator

1102
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 1: of Reception Perception. Go check out all of his new

1103
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 1: projects right now, do it right now, Fantasy Hipsters and

1104
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 1: of course, Reception Perception dot Com. Alright, let's close out

1105
00:55:24,560 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 1: the show with a round of Daily Depths doth Daily

1106
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 1: tap time. We shall start with MG, my guy, Marcus Grant,

1107
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 1: what's up? I want a daily deap. I saw this

1108
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 1: earlier this morning that Donnie Darko, the kind of cult classic, uh,

1109
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:52,080
Speaker 1: is getting a re release. I think it just passed

1110
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 1: its fifteen year anniversary, but it's getting a rerelease. Um,

1111
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,960
Speaker 1: I know March thirty one in New York, in l A,

1112
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:02,359
Speaker 1: I think early April in a handful of other cities. Um.

1113
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 1: Obviously it's not going to be nationwide, but a lot

1114
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 1: of cities are going to see it. So if you've

1115
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:10,400
Speaker 1: ever seen it, I mean, uh, it's it's kind of cookie.

1116
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 1: It's uh you know, Uh, somebody tried to say it

1117
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,279
Speaker 1: it sort of felt like Stranger Thing before Stranger Things.

1118
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 1: I don't know about all that necessarily, Um, but it's

1119
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 1: a good movie. I liked it. Definitely a lot of fun. Um.

1120
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:26,320
Speaker 1: You know, the everybody remembers these song Mad World because

1121
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 1: you know it was featured very, very heavily in that film.

1122
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 1: And uh, you know, if you like creepy rabbits, Uh,

1123
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:35,839
Speaker 1: this movie is for you if you like. But it's

1124
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:37,840
Speaker 1: gonna it's get it rerelease. How like, what is it

1125
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 1: a director's cud? Is it a blue ray? I mean,

1126
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:41,479
Speaker 1: what do we talk? You know? I think it's gonna

1127
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 1: be and I wish I would. I should have been

1128
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 1: smart and actually had this pulled up, uh you know,

1129
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 1: to actually talk about it. But it's actually it doesn't

1130
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:55,920
Speaker 1: matter regardless. Go find down. It's probably on Netflix, but

1131
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:57,800
Speaker 1: it's coming back to theaters. It is going to be

1132
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 1: a four K restoration, so you can see it in theaters.

1133
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:05,080
Speaker 1: Jake Jillen Hall as kind of a weird and weird

1134
00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 1: and out emo team who's seeing a creepy but yeah,

1135
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:11,360
Speaker 1: go check it out. Absolutely love it. What's kid from Wisconsin.

1136
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 1: Alex galhar hit me uh first daily deap to the

1137
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 1: Oscars this past weekend. Very entertaining, sometimes on purpose, sometimes

1138
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 1: on purpose. Loved the like storylines. There were some like

1139
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 1: the bit with Gary from Chicago. At first I was like,

1140
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 1: this is the worst thing I've ever seen in my life.

1141
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 1: And then I started to love it and how awkward

1142
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 1: it was and all those people and the genuine stuff,

1143
00:57:33,520 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 1: and then the whole Moonlight La La Land Shenanigans with

1144
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 1: best Picture at the end, Like, oh my god, it

1145
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 1: was just a fascinating watch awesome. I rewatched that last

1146
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 1: that last you know scene, Yeah, I call it a scene.

1147
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,439
Speaker 1: But here's one thing I want to say too quick

1148
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 1: about it is there's been a lot of of course,

1149
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 1: a lot of think pieces written both on the side, Wow,

1150
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 1: how gracious, and you know what a show of humility

1151
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 1: from the La La and producers to uh, you know,

1152
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 1: just quick giveaway the award and welcome on the stage

1153
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 1: and graduating other people be like Moonlight didn't have their moment.

1154
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:09,640
Speaker 1: This is a travesty. Like look, guys, they're not mutually exclusive.

1155
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 1: Both are correct, both are very gracious moment, and yes,

1156
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 1: it sucks that Moonlight didn't get their moment. Also, both

1157
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 1: movies are great. The obscene backlash for La La Land

1158
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 1: I don't understanding. Did you actually the reason that Moonlight

1159
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 1: had a better moment? You almost you're you're going to

1160
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 1: remember that more than if they had just read the

1161
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:32,840
Speaker 1: right name. You know what, you guys remember the moment

1162
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 1: that the creators of the artist had no no. But

1163
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 1: guarantee you, anybody that watched us or paid attention to

1164
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 1: it is not going to forget this Steve Harvey moment.

1165
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 1: That's true. Actually, you will never forget that Midnight one

1166
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 1: the best picture Midnight or Moonlight or Moonlight? What's James

1167
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 1: already ruined? Already ruined their moment? I ruined their moment? Uh.

1168
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 1: And I so shout out to our boys, Boy Young Boy,

1169
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 1: Matt Harmon and Matt Franchise for starting their own Fantasy

1170
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 1: Hipsters podcast. I know that good. We talked about it earlier.

1171
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 1: I'm excited to check it out and see what those

1172
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 1: fools have to say. Just knowing them on our you know,

1173
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 1: on a personal level, and seeing them on a day

1174
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 1: to day basis, I expect that they will start by

1175
00:59:18,520 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 1: talking about a certain topic, perhaps even fantasy football. Uh,

1176
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 1: and then like a dog squirrel, it will go off

1177
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:27,479
Speaker 1: into the weeds somewhere, and I think, are they organic weeds?

1178
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 1: Probably people that don't know them as well as us. Also,

1179
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 1: like those two really developed a strange rapport and devotion

1180
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 1: in creation of bits. And we're great at playing off

1181
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 1: of each other, not even in like on a show

1182
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:41,200
Speaker 1: form like this. Just that was just at our own

1183
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 1: damn cubes. Like I was the subject of so many

1184
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 1: of the bits too. Examples hit me, I don't remember

1185
00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 1: there well there, well, there's the whole thing about Harmon

1186
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 1: being a child and uh, franchise being old old Yeah,

1187
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 1: those bits, and then just stuff about you know, me

1188
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 1: being a dictator of the fantasy team and stuff like

1189
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 1: that at and my addiction to coffee and other things

1190
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 1: like they would quickly uh like want to punch me

1191
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 1: or Marcus whatever whoever it was with stuff like that.

1192
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 1: So it'll be Harmon's Harmon's anti peanut butter stance. Yes,

1193
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 1: he's got the worst food takes. It really does. You

1194
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 1: know what, here's the thing, he's got the worst food takes.

1195
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 1: Here's the thing this will see And I bet Harmon

1196
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 1: doesn't listen to this podcast anymore because probably he's on

1197
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:27,480
Speaker 1: this one though, so he might. Well let's see if

1198
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 1: he will turn it off right and say, let's say

1199
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 1: he listens to the end. If he does not respond

1200
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 1: to this, I'm gonna, I'm gonna. I'm gonna submit his

1201
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 1: name for the Bachelor. I don't on that, Oh my god, nobody.

1202
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 1: I swear to nobody. Nobody do if anybody tells him,

1203
01:00:50,920 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 1: because that you know what, that's qualify you, and I

1204
01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 1: will do it for sure. And I know producers who

1205
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 1: I could actually bypass certain levels. So don't make me

1206
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:02,480
Speaker 1: do it. I'm gonna probably do it anyways. Don't make good,

1207
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 1: don't don't wrap me out? Okay, good people, all right, Good?

1208
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 1: I like it. Adam Rank with the Daily Down. Uh.

1209
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 1: The Angels undefeated so far in spring training as of Wednesday,

1210
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 1: and teams that the last undefeated team in springs chance

1211
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 1: of making the playoffs are the fake news if you

1212
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 1: don't believe me. They were in a new world where

1213
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 1: I can make up anything I want and I don't

1214
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 1: care what the facts. So uh, congratulations to the Simpsons. Uh.

1215
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 1: So many times they have predicted things that have come

1216
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 1: to for which for fruition. Yes, that's including our most

1217
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 1: recent presidential election. They also a couple of years ago

1218
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 1: a stupid throwaway episode where they had the kids take

1219
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 1: the car where they steal a car. They're going to

1220
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 1: the World's Fair, but they have to stop at Brandson.

1221
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 1: They stopped at the show called Brandson. Or maybe it's

1222
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 1: something that maybe I'm getting the episode that they have

1223
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 1: an ode de Branson where they're making fun of like

1224
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 1: these celebrities that people have thought of dead and they're

1225
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 1: actually alive. They're just performing in Brandson the very first

1226
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 1: two that they show, or Charo Mr t who will

1227
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:14,720
Speaker 1: both be competing and dancing with the Stars. So I

1228
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 1: put that up. I want to say thanks to Petro's Papadakis.

1229
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 1: He shouted me out on a local radio like him

1230
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:24,720
Speaker 1: and Matt money Smith had their own show, but there's

1231
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:29,440
Speaker 1: a very popular FM morning show Kevin and Bean, and

1232
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 1: during their Bachelor report he made reference to one of

1233
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 1: my tweets Karen because Karin got eliminated, and I said, well,

1234
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 1: see will now fulfill her destiny of hooking up with

1235
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 1: Chad in Bachelor in Paradise, which he reference and then

1236
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:43,840
Speaker 1: gave me full credit of speaking of tweets. By the way,

1237
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 1: somebody on Sports Center, Diana Rossini read one of my

1238
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:53,480
Speaker 1: tweets on Sports Center. What now, I'm not saying that.

1239
01:02:53,720 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 1: That's probably the only sports show that that's ever happened

1240
01:02:56,280 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 1: to me outside specifically been on she read it, I'm like, oh,

1241
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 1: that's pretty cool. So it was the kirk Cousins one,

1242
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:08,200
Speaker 1: by the way, and uh good, wow, really which kirk

1243
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:12,720
Speaker 1: Cousins one eleven dollar beer the airport? I'll read it verbatim. Okay,

1244
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:15,160
Speaker 1: I don't want to because it's got a lot of runs,

1245
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 1: so I had a right. Yeah, my phone keeps going

1246
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 1: off with good but I said, paying twenty four mill

1247
01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 1: for kirk Cousins is a kin to paying eleven dollars

1248
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:28,120
Speaker 1: for an airport beer. I mean, you don't want to

1249
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:30,160
Speaker 1: have to pay that much, but sometimes you have no choice.

1250
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 1: There you go, that's a very good tweet. You know what.

1251
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:33,959
Speaker 1: That's true. You've been, You've been. You've been some strong

1252
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:37,800
Speaker 1: Twitter game recently, you know, going back to the championship

1253
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:40,000
Speaker 1: game where even though I was I was sad that

1254
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:42,160
Speaker 1: tweet was so good with the Hey, at least one

1255
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:43,680
Speaker 1: Rogers is going to get a ring and it was

1256
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 1: a picture I didn't tweet for a week after. I'm like,

1257
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 1: I gotta let that linger. Yeah yeah yeah. The showmanship

1258
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 1: Uh real quick. Sorry, Bob Miller, the long time announcer

1259
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:00,120
Speaker 1: for the Los Angeles Kings, is gonna be retired. R

1260
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 1: anybody who lived in southern California has been Scully chickering

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Speaker 1: and Bob Miller. Uh oh and uh final shout out

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Speaker 1: to step mom Lauren, who a huge fan of the

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Speaker 1: NFL Network and all of our shows. She tweets us

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Speaker 1: a ton. She's been listening to this podcast while she's

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Speaker 1: been getting her fitness on and say, you know what,

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Speaker 1: I wanted to give her a little dap for the

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Speaker 1: appreciate her reach out and everything. So uh, I like it.

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Speaker 1: I will give out a couple of daily DAPs here.

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Speaker 1: One will be to uh my, my buddy Michael Kim,

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Speaker 1: you know him from ESPN. He's over at one twenty

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Speaker 1: sports now. Uh. He and I just had a like

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Speaker 1: a thirty five forty minute conversation the other day. Um,

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Speaker 1: and he was just you know, I was just reaching

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Speaker 1: out to him, just trying to pick his brain of

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Speaker 1: some stuff. And man, he was absolutely super gracious with

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Speaker 1: this time and uh, and I definitely appreciate that. Um.

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Speaker 1: I will also daily DAP Draft Breakdown. Oh yeah, so

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Speaker 1: you know, we have tools here at NFL Network where

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Speaker 1: we could you know, breakdown tape and and all those things.

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Speaker 1: But when you get home, it's hard to do that

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Speaker 1: because they you have to go through VPNs. But I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna get to all the technical to stuff. But

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Speaker 1: the bottom line is, I forego our own software and

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Speaker 1: just go to Draft Breakdown because they have most of

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Speaker 1: the game tape that you need to evaluate prospects, and

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Speaker 1: they cut it up into and they do cut up

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Speaker 1: consumable videos closed to grinding through a whole game. They'll

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Speaker 1: give you a good sample of the best and worst

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Speaker 1: places in like what eight to twelve minutes for most people.

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Speaker 1: And I will say that on occasion, they have had

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Speaker 1: things that we don't. Last year, early the season, when

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Speaker 1: I was trying to figure out who this Tyroe Williams

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Speaker 1: guy was in San Diego, Uh, we'll have it. We

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Speaker 1: didn't have any Western Oregon footage, I'll dare us, but

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Speaker 1: I believe I found someone traffic breakdown. No. I mean

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Speaker 1: the cool thing about what we have, obviously is we

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Speaker 1: we have a lot of access to all twenty two

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Speaker 1: that UM is not necessarily available to you know, draft breakdown,

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Speaker 1: but not always. But regardless, if you're just doing quick

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Speaker 1: and dirty you know, tape work at home, draft breakdown

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Speaker 1: is the way to go UM and any anyway, it's

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Speaker 1: just daily DAPs to them. I know, I don't know

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Speaker 1: if it's kosher or not kosher to to shout them out,

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Speaker 1: but whatever, we can shout out other people, all right,

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Speaker 1: So there you go, daily DAPs to them. So there

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Speaker 1: you go. That's the show for the WIS Kit from Wisconsin.

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Speaker 1: Alex Gillhard mg M, my got Mark's friend Adam Rank

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Speaker 1: and of course boy young boy man Harmon. Appreciate you

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Speaker 1: joining us. I'm James Kell. We'll catch you soon.