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Speaker 1: To Teas in a Pod with Teddy Mellencamp and Cambridge Edge.

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Speaker 2: Hi guys, welcome to another episode of to Teas in

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Speaker 2: a Pod, But this time I am missing another tea

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Speaker 2: and I have my new co host for the Real

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Speaker 2: Housewives of Orange County, Alexia and Napola. Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 2: I am so excited for our first time.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I'm so happy to be here. As some people know,

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Speaker 3: I am in Paris, so I am doing the podcast

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Speaker 3: right here for my hotel room in Paris.

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Speaker 2: You know what that is a flex as I'm sitting

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Speaker 2: here in Encino and it's one hundred degrees and my

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Speaker 2: air conditioning's not working. Alexia is in Paris, but before

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Speaker 2: you were in Paris, you were in Madrid, And of

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Speaker 2: course I'm gonna have to ask you this straight up, god,

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Speaker 2: or I'm not going to answer it. Well, you're gonna

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Speaker 2: have to a little bit. I saw that you insinuated

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Speaker 2: that you had brought Todd to Madrid and he's tagged

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Speaker 2: in a photo.

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Speaker 3: Well that that was not an insinuation at all, by

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Speaker 3: the way, Like, what was it because I tagged him

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Speaker 3: that he was with me in Madrid. If that would

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Speaker 3: have been the case, you would have seen that as well.

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Speaker 3: The case was that I'm eating a club sandwich and

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Speaker 3: we would always eat clip sandwiches there, and I tagged

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Speaker 3: him because it was like his favorite club sandwich. That's exactly.

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Speaker 2: So it was just you were just flirting.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I mean, I don't even really consider that flirting.

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Speaker 3: I just consider it like we talked about, like, oh,

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Speaker 3: make sure you have the club sandwich while you're there.

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Speaker 3: So I did. I took a picture of it, and

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Speaker 3: I tagged him so he can see how beautiful it

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Speaker 3: was and how tasty it was.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I still think, you know what, I'm still going

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Speaker 2: to go off the fact that Todd was in Madrid.

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Speaker 3: You could know he's not in the Drid and he's

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Speaker 3: not in Paris. This is a solo euro Tree and

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Speaker 3: I have a lot of friends in Madrid, and I'm

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Speaker 3: in Paris with one of my best friends, Johnny, and

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Speaker 3: then I'm gonna continue to London Croatia.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well we'll see. We'll see about that. We'll

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Speaker 2: see when his head pops out of the bathroom door

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Speaker 2: behind you, it's not oh my gosh, Okay, well we'll

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Speaker 2: we'll see, we'll see, she said.

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Speaker 3: I didn't think a club soundwich was never gonna make

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Speaker 3: it to page six, and apparently I did, just because

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Speaker 3: I tagged them.

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Speaker 2: Well the no what else has made it to page

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Speaker 2: six non stop? The picture of Larsa and Teresa photoshopped.

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Speaker 2: There are in more countries than you are now at

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Speaker 2: this point.

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Speaker 3: Like I saw that, and I saw the Marisol wanted

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Speaker 3: to add herself to to the fund and she added

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Speaker 3: her picture as well, with like a big butt that

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Speaker 3: she's never had.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I didn't notice that part. She added

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Speaker 2: a butt she gave herself.

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Speaker 3: That's not Marissol's butt. Like I've known Marissol for twenty

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Speaker 3: something years. She's never had that butt.

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Speaker 2: Maybe she got a VPL while you were gone or

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Speaker 2: BPL or what is it called BBL.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was like an old photo of hers,

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Speaker 3: and I guess the she photoshopped it too, So what

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Speaker 3: would you photoshop? I guess she would photoshop a butt

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Speaker 3: on herself. Listen, I photoshop and that's not her butt.

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Speaker 3: That's never been her butt.

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Speaker 2: My butt's a chicken butt. It just looks like too.

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Speaker 2: But well, thank you. Well, I'm excited to have you here.

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Speaker 2: As everybody knows, that listens to Tucciese and a pod

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Speaker 2: Tamra is not able to discuss Real Housewives of Orange County.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't mean that we're in a fight. It doesn't

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Speaker 2: mean that we're not doing the pod together anymore. It's

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Speaker 2: that Alexia is coming and filling in and going to

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Speaker 2: give all of her hot takes on Orange County, which

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Speaker 2: I'm so excited about because she has strong opinions and

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Speaker 2: I hope sometimes they don't mesh with mine because I

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Speaker 2: think that will keep this even.

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Speaker 3: That's what's going to make it fun. And I love

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Speaker 3: that you clarify that you and Tama are okay, because

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Speaker 3: I feel like we have to be explaining ourselves like

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Speaker 3: every minute, right, Yeah, they're gonna.

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Speaker 2: Be like Teddy didn't like it, so and so happens,

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Speaker 2: and now it's no. Every time one of us is

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Speaker 2: on vacation or something happens, they're like, they broke up.

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Speaker 2: They're in the biggest fight ever. The podcast is over.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm visiting my family, like, calm down. But

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Speaker 2: we're gonna start off the pod with the headline that

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Speaker 2: Shannon Budoor was on Jeff Lewis Live, which I don't

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Speaker 2: know have you done Jeff Lewis, No, I haven't, so

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Speaker 2: anytime you go on Jeffrey's Live.

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Speaker 3: Friends, right, Jeff Lewis and Shannon are good friends.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and they are good friends, but she essentially talks

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Speaker 2: about She revealed new details about the timeline of Alexis

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Speaker 2: Bellino's romance with John Janssen, which we got to know

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Speaker 2: Alexis for the first time when we all went to

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Speaker 2: go see we should be saying Janet Jackson, but I

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Speaker 2: just say Nelly at this point because well, I stopped

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Speaker 2: remembering after Nelly. But but she said we had broken

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Speaker 2: up and then they started dating about six weeks after

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Speaker 2: we broke up, and then the show started filming, and

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Speaker 2: I think they'd been dating about a month and a

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Speaker 2: half two months at that time, so it was a

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Speaker 2: new relationship. So no, it wasn't fun, but I got

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Speaker 2: through it, so you'll have to tune in. Then she

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Speaker 2: says she's a friend. Let's be clear, she's a friend.

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Speaker 2: She's not holding an orange, Shannon stated. Then, after it

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Speaker 2: was noted that Alexis had posted a photo of herself

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Speaker 2: with the rest of the women, Shannon said, I don't

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Speaker 2: know if this means anything, but let's take her out

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Speaker 2: because she was never in the flipping picture. Who's in

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Speaker 2: the ciner? That would be me? It's so thirsty, and

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Speaker 2: I'll just leave it at that. Shannon's friend Vicki, also

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Speaker 2: posted a cast photo with her cell photoshopped in it.

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Speaker 3: So and I know that that's what the women do.

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Speaker 3: I don't think. I don't think Maraison, Nijohn and Katy

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Speaker 3: did that. No, that you shouldn't do that, But even

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Speaker 3: I was allowed to do that.

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Speaker 2: No, they but the point being, and listen, I'm not

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Speaker 2: taking sides here at this point of the season. But

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Speaker 2: I was told that fans are the one that put

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Speaker 2: Alexis in the photo, and Alexis just shared it versus

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Speaker 2: her putting herself in there.

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Speaker 3: But they actually do it, or whether they're fans, whether

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Speaker 3: you know the fans did it, It wasn't Bravo.

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Speaker 2: You know how sometimes they'll film this, they'll take pictures

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Speaker 2: of us all separately because everyone's fighting, and then put

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Speaker 2: us all in No, she was at that photo shoot.

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Speaker 2: She is in the silver dress. But a fan made

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Speaker 2: that picture tagged Alexis, and then Alexa shared it. But

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Speaker 2: then Shannon was saying how thirsty it was that Alexis

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Speaker 2: did that, but a fan did it, but also so

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Speaker 2: did VICKI H So, I mean.

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Speaker 3: How do you feel about that?

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Speaker 2: I feel like, listen, if you're trying to be funny

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Speaker 2: and you're poking fun at yourself, I'm photoshop yourself into

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Speaker 2: whatever you want. Like I photoshopped Caroline Stanbury's face under

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Speaker 2: my pregnant body because she's in all this drama right

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Speaker 2: now about not wanting to get pregnant. I'm like, you

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Speaker 2: can have mine because I'm being I'm making a joke

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Speaker 2: of the situation, but when you're I don't know, I'm

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Speaker 2: weird about that. I also am weird about like people

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Speaker 2: calling themselves iconic or queen or any of those things.

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Speaker 3: So what about star? I called myself a star.

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Speaker 4: I'm actually weird about that too, right, But I mean,

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Speaker 4: I think you're a star, but you needed to tell me.

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Speaker 2: It's slightly concerning.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I was being funny too, but I guess

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Speaker 3: will under the context. But yeah, it was just like

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Speaker 3: a crazy moment that I had. But I feel that

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Speaker 3: Alexis was just really resharing, like what fans do you know?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know that she did it to

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Speaker 2: Know, But I don't think that she I don't think regardless,

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Speaker 2: I liked my time with Alexis. Do I think she's

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Speaker 2: doing things to intentionally bother Shannon?

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Speaker 3: Sure?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like yeah, of course. Do you know what you're

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Speaker 2: doing right? And you can make a choice. You could

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Speaker 2: you could privately be entering a relationship if you're coming

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Speaker 2: into a new show and not. But no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: it's all over the place. And we just saw online

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Speaker 2: that they're shopping for engagement rings.

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Speaker 3: Well that's really crazy. I mean, how do you know that,

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Speaker 3: like this is a guy after such a short period

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Speaker 3: of time. But I mean, remember she told us they

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Speaker 3: have sex how many times? More times a day than

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Speaker 3: Larsus says.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, like four or fun times a day. She said, listen,

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Speaker 5: I'm good four to five times a month. But then

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Speaker 5: Shannon said she's currently friends with some people. I don't

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Speaker 5: think I should say who, because there's stuff that happens,

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Speaker 5: especially in the first episode that's really really nice. So

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Speaker 5: let's just put this away. I'm friendly with some of

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Speaker 5: the cast and then some I don't speak to it all,

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Speaker 5: she explained, I am curious, who would you guess that

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Speaker 5: Shannon's close with right now?

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Speaker 2: Hmmm, well, not worth maybe.

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Speaker 3: I mean closest is a strong word, so I mean

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Speaker 3: talking about like her ex boyfriend that she was with

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's it's a lot. I mean I

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Speaker 2: And what are your thoughts about? You know, something that

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Speaker 2: I've seen online in different places is that people are

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Speaker 2: coming from both directions. One are coming for the women

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Speaker 2: are terrible that they're you know, throwing this in her face.

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Speaker 2: But then there's also people saying she chose to do

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Speaker 2: the show after this happened. You know it's going to happen, right,

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Speaker 2: So what are your thoughts on that, like, do you say,

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Speaker 2: I feel like we all know that when we sign

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Speaker 2: up to do these kind of shows, we know what

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Speaker 2: it's about. So we you know, we've grown like thick skin,

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Speaker 2: and we know that we have to tell her story

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Speaker 2: because that's what we're there for and what we're getting

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Speaker 2: paid for. And she seems to be okay with doing it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I have, you know, haven't watched her before

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Speaker 2: in the other season, so I don't know if she's

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Speaker 2: always been a very like genuine and authentic person where

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Speaker 2: she opens up and she's shared a lot about her life.

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Speaker 2: I think that's the hard part is last season there

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Speaker 2: was multiple times where they broke the fourth wall and

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Speaker 2: it's her yelling at production that she's not doing this.

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Speaker 2: So her relationship last year was kind of coming undone,

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Speaker 2: and then the other women were kind of calling her

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Speaker 2: are great, and you know that starts to rub people

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Speaker 2: the wrong way, right, and then maybe allegedly she wouldn't

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Speaker 3: I watch a clip up, you know, for five minutes,

432
00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,160
Speaker 3: because you know, it has to do with a lot

433
00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:33,840
Speaker 3: of things, and you know what I'm talking about. So

434
00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:35,960
Speaker 3: I don't know that, you know, and I haven't watched

435
00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 3: her enough to know that in every season she has

436
00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,680
Speaker 3: been you know, accused of drinking too much, or she's

437
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:46,119
Speaker 3: had problems handling her alcohol or whatnot. But if the

438
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,200
Speaker 3: girls really care about her, they would try to help

439
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 3: her and not like attack her. I mean, this woman's

440
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,400
Speaker 3: already going through a lot of stuff, and I feel

441
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 3: like they need to be a little bit more sensitive

442
00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:57,360
Speaker 3: because they're not going to get the result they want.

443
00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,600
Speaker 3: I mean, if you want somebody to get better, to

444
00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:03,480
Speaker 3: actually understand or become aware, you're not not everybody's gonna

445
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,160
Speaker 3: attack her, you know, have that approach towards her that's

446
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,200
Speaker 3: going through stuff. So that's why acting the way she is.

447
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,240
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's like, but how many years can you

448
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,200
Speaker 2: be going through stuff like always? Do you get? Is

449
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:17,199
Speaker 2: that a card forever?

450
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,560
Speaker 3: No? I don't think it gives you the right to

451
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,040
Speaker 3: behave poorly and make the wrong decisions, you know, and

452
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,199
Speaker 3: we're all going through stuff. But you know, again, I

453
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:26,960
Speaker 3: feel that all this really came to life because she

454
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 3: had the DUI. I mean, there's people that drink every

455
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,239
Speaker 3: day and they take uber or they stay home and

456
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,360
Speaker 3: pass out and nobody finds out about it. Unluckily for her,

457
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,040
Speaker 3: she's a public person and that happened and the entire

458
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:38,040
Speaker 3: world found out about it.

459
00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:41,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, so then Tamra, Jen and Emily go to the gym.

460
00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,440
Speaker 2: Tamra says that right after Shannon's duy, Shannon was telling

461
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,120
Speaker 2: the press she wasn't drinking anymore. She was drinking diet coke,

462
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,640
Speaker 2: and then at the Trace Amiga shows, Shannon would secretly

463
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 2: pour herself drinks. Tamar didn't feel like it was right

464
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 2: to continue doing a show revolving around drinking. Do you

465
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,639
Speaker 2: agree that with Tama or that pausing that Trace a

466
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,440
Speaker 2: Mega's live show was the way to go. Yeah.

467
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,480
Speaker 3: I like that Tamra did that. I think that that's

468
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,879
Speaker 3: being a good friend and actually supporting her. I don't know.

469
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 3: She had the conversation with Shannon and told her, listen,

470
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,199
Speaker 3: you know this is not going to be good for you.

471
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:15,439
Speaker 3: It's not going to be good for us. You know,

472
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,679
Speaker 3: we're involved around alcohol all the time, and you know,

473
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 3: I get it. It's a show. You want to have fun,

474
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,160
Speaker 3: We're all going to be drinking, so it's just better to,

475
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,879
Speaker 3: like cancel it and not do it anymore, because you

476
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,440
Speaker 3: could have a bigger things to worry about right now

477
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,399
Speaker 3: than to be, you know, doing a show, you know,

478
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,679
Speaker 3: around the country and getting drunk because all eyes are

479
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,160
Speaker 3: going to be new and you need to get better.

480
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,439
Speaker 3: So I don't know if that conversation happened or she

481
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,440
Speaker 3: just like, you know, stop.

482
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I can give a little insight just

483
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 2: to clarify, and this is not me being biased, so

484
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 2: everyone please relax. But I know for a fact that

485
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 2: Tamar absolutely was there for Shannon as support after her duy.

486
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,120
Speaker 2: Tama just didn't think that doing the trace and a megas

487
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 2: right away was a good idea. She had found out

488
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 2: that Shannon and Vicki were saying, you know, terrible things

489
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:07,400
Speaker 2: about her.

490
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 3: Uh.

491
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 2: They had signed on with the manager why Tamro was

492
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:16,360
Speaker 2: in Scotland doing Traders, and then without her knowledge, gave

493
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,640
Speaker 2: permission that Tamo would continue. So of course, going into

494
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 2: the season, Tama was going to be pissed because she

495
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,159
Speaker 2: knew this was going to happen with Shannon, like she

496
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 2: already was like there for her. Then she went away,

497
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:32,160
Speaker 2: and you know how you are when you're on those

498
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,840
Speaker 2: shows like you're like locked up, and they committed to

499
00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 2: something that she had already told them. I don't think

500
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 2: it's a good idea. And then so she's gonna come

501
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:46,920
Speaker 2: in hot. Yeah, Like so I think that's what happened.

502
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 2: Then we get to Shannon sitting down with her daughters.

503
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 2: She says the night she got her DUY, she and

504
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,639
Speaker 2: John got in a big argument and he called her

505
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 2: a drunken idiot, and driving home, she lost control of

506
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 2: the car. One of her daughters says, this sucks, but

507
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 2: it happened for a reason. Then she said she went

508
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 2: through a thirty day wellness program as seeing a therapist.

509
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 2: And then Shannon says John called her ten days after

510
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 2: her DUI saying he was cutting all ties, that she

511
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 2: ruined his and his family's lives. And then six weeks

512
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,479
Speaker 2: after the phone called, John started dating Alexis. Then we

513
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 2: flashed back to the gym. Emily brings up how Alexis's

514
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,640
Speaker 2: ex husband sued Tamara and Shannon, and Tarmra says John

515
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 2: dating Alexis is karma. Do you feel like Shannon is

516
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,920
Speaker 2: trying to insinuate John is partly to blame for her DUI?

517
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,439
Speaker 3: No, I mean I don't really think she was insinuating.

518
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,239
Speaker 3: I think, like deep in her heart, you know, she

519
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 3: does think that a lot of her anger and frustration

520
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:50,040
Speaker 3: and whatnot is due to the relationship that she's had

521
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 3: with John all the time, and she has to be pissed.

522
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know what kind of relationship they

523
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 3: had or if she's still in love with the guy.

524
00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know that, but I mean at

525
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 3: this point, she probably hates him and she saw that

526
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:01,439
Speaker 3: he's moved on.

527
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,679
Speaker 2: So I mean, do you think she hates somewhere? Do

528
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 2: you think she's even more in love with him? You

529
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 2: know how sometimes in like really toxic relationships, like once

530
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,640
Speaker 2: they they're fully gone, you just feel like I need

531
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,120
Speaker 2: to get like I need to get back.

532
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 3: I need you know, I think you did her favor.

533
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 3: I think you did her a favor by meeting Alexis,

534
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 3: because I don't think there's no return there. I think

535
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 3: he was going to stay with Alexis, And you know,

536
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,919
Speaker 3: she might not realize it now, but she'll realize it

537
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 3: that he did her favor, and Alexis did her favor

538
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,560
Speaker 3: by you know, by meeting each other and by being together,

539
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 3: because if not, I feel I feel like Shannon was

540
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:38,400
Speaker 3: going to continue with this nonsense, which yeah.

541
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 2: I did appreciate the conversations being had with her kids

542
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 2: because that was something I hadn't even put into my

543
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 2: my stratosphere of thinking. Then we get to Heather and

544
00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 2: Terry have moved into their new house in Beverly Hills,

545
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 2: which I'm like, aren't we watching the Royal Housewives Orange County?

546
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 3: I know, how did that happen? I was going to

547
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 3: ask you that, how do you live in Beverly Hills

548
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 3: and film and no, se Well, I think I want

549
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 3: to tell you.

550
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 2: Well, what the reasoning behind us? I think Heather's kids

551
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 2: go to school in LA. They have the house in

552
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 2: Beverly Hills, but that's why. So Balboa Bay Club, for

553
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 2: anyone curious, is this like beautiful. It's not a country club,

554
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 2: but it's in lack of a better word. You sign up,

555
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 2: you're a member, and then you get one of the condos.

556
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 2: So I think in order to make it all makes sense,

557
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 2: and they can still see Terry's mom, they have a

558
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 2: place at Baboa Bay Club, which is also in Orange County,

559
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 2: So I think they're residing in Los Angeles for the kids.

560
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:43,439
Speaker 2: The family for Terry and then they have a place

561
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 2: at Balboa Bay Club.

562
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,240
Speaker 3: I was going to google this last night, but I forgot,

563
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 3: so I don't want to be ignorant. But how far

564
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 3: is oc Orange County from Los Angeles.

565
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 2: Depends on traffic. Like, if I left at five forty

566
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 2: five in the morning, I could be at Tamra's house

567
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 2: in less than an hour. If I after ten am, okay,

568
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 2: if I left at ten am, two and a half.

569
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 3: Hours, okay. Well, it's kind of like Miami, like when

570
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 3: I go to Marisol's house and she still lives in Miami,

571
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 3: Like I do it technically, Well, I mean I live

572
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 3: in a certain area of Sunny Owls and I'm living

573
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 3: in the beach, but it's an hour away as well.

574
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:17,840
Speaker 3: So the part that's.

575
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 2: Different is if there was a real Housewives of Sunny Isles, right,

576
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 2: why would you be on Miami that that's where there's

577
00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 2: a little bit of a I mean, I don't mind

578
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 2: it at all. I don't care, right, I think Heather.

579
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 3: I feel like she can she can work out in

580
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 3: both franchises.

581
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,919
Speaker 2: Listen, if you're that rich, yeah, go for it. You

582
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 2: can be on all the places, right, And like I'm

583
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 2: I'm willing to, you know, go on her jet and

584
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 2: go wherever she wants to go. I'll reside in her club.

585
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, she can come to Miami whenever she wants to.

586
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 2: Then, Gina tells Emily that her client's brother bumped into

587
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 2: Shannon at the store with a shopping cart full of boots.

588
00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 2: Gina says Shannon gave her so much shit for Dui

589
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 2: and she has no respect for her now. She thinks

590
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 2: Shannon needs to go to rehab. Gina talks about how

591
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 2: she and Travis can't afford a house to fit their

592
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 2: combined family and they may need to live separately and

593
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 2: see where the chips lay. Later, Gina and Travis discussed

594
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 2: this decision, which Travis doesn't agree with and feels like

595
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 2: it's pulling them apart. H there's a lot to unpacked here.

596
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 3: There is.

597
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 2: Like one in regards to Gina and Shannon stuff. I

598
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 2: get that Gina is pissed at Shannon for her behavior

599
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 2: last year, but I also think of all of the women,

600
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 2: maybe Gina could have the most empathy.

601
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 3: One hundred percent. That's what I was going to say.

602
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 3: You went through this yourself, you know how hard this is.

603
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 3: She shouldn't you know after she gets over the fact

604
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 3: that yes, Shannon said that and offended her, that she

605
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 3: can help Shannon in many ways.

606
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 2: I mean, Gina is California sober, which is does not

607
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 2: mean you're free of any substance.

608
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 3: Correct, I learned. I know what that meant. But I

609
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:01,320
Speaker 3: learned that.

610
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 2: Yeah. So I mean I think that, like you have,

611
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 2: you got to give somebody a little bit of I

612
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 2: don't know if if it's happened to you, like if

613
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 2: I had gotten ad UI. It's like me talking to

614
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 2: somebody that's had a divorce because I've been divorced before.

615
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 2: I have a little bit more empathy towards somebody who's

616
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 2: had one, because I like, it just gives you an

617
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 2: insight that you wouldn't have if you've never had one,

618
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 2: and you've always thought that.

619
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 3: Well, maybe throughout the season they do have that moment.

620
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 3: I would love to see that. I would love for

621
00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 3: Gina and Shannon to you know, have that moment or

622
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 3: the differences aside and they're you know, there for each other,

623
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 3: and Gina actually you know, helps her and you know.

624
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 2: I don't know that we should hold our breath for that.

625
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 3: No, I'm a nice I don't even know what I'm doing.

626
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 2: He shows them very thanks they show. They do show

627
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 2: them in the trailer getting along, but I feel like

628
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 2: it might have been like a five second teaser bake out.

629
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 2: But then we do get into something that I think resonated.

630
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 2: Gina and Travis moved into a house together. They have

631
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 2: a shit ton of kids. They moved them all into

632
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 2: the house. There's a million bunk beds that are living together.

633
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 2: And then Gina shares that she is going to have

634
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 2: Travis move out because now the kids are getting older

635
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 2: and they need privacy. And Travis's ex wife, I think

636
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:28,920
Speaker 2: has taken over too much of their space of their relationship.

637
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 2: She feels like it's like a third person in their

638
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 2: relationship because her and her ex husband have figured out

639
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 2: how to co parent, and apparently this woman has not.

640
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 2: What I think in this moment is if we're going

641
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 2: to talk about her, I need her on the show.

642
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 2: I agree, like I need to.

643
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 3: Know what she's doing right, But who do you need?

644
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 3: You need the ex wife?

645
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 2: I need the ex wife. If we're going to talk

646
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 2: about her and how she's causing these problems, then let's

647
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 2: show her. Let's see a little bit of it, because

648
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people would relate to that

649
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 2: and going through that struggle of I mean, if you're

650
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,480
Speaker 2: willing to open up and say this about your boyfriend's

651
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 2: kid's mother, then that's shore right.

652
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 3: Well maybe she will, no, maybe she'll she'll be a

653
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,479
Speaker 3: part of the show. Maybe she'll want to do that.

654
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm not sure.

655
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 2: How do you feel about jen and Ryan because they

656
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 2: go to Jenner Jenna is finalizing her divorce, but now

657
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 2: her ex hasn't paid his portion of the rent and

658
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 2: she's getting evicted in the house that Gina found her.

659
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 3: My god, this is on one episode.

660
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 2: It was like a lot.

661
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,200
Speaker 3: There were so many like different stories going on, and

662
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 3: like a lot. It was like heavy stuff. It was

663
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 3: like wow, Like all.

664
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 2: I kept thinking was a housewife with no house. How dreadful.

665
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 3: But like I don't even understand, Like how do you

666
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 3: not pay for your like for your rent? Even before

667
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 3: you didn't share that on TV, that's like really humiliating.

668
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 3: I mean I would think.

669
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 2: Well, I also was thinking, you're getting paid fifty dollars

670
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 2: a yoga class. Don't you own the studio? Like that's

671
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 2: what she's getting paid to go there? Like she's posting

672
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 2: on hers and listen, this isn't to come at gin,

673
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 2: but she is posting every single time she's going to

674
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 2: teach a class in Orange County, like to put things out.

675
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 3: How many people does she have in her class? I mean,

676
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 3: that's not a lot of money.

677
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 2: But that's why I'm saying that's a shit. That's shit.

678
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 2: Normally in a situation like I, I don't teach fitness

679
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 2: classes or anything like that. But if I do a

680
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 2: charity or something like that, and I say I'm gonna

681
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 2: be in this class, sign up, you know, like there's

682
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 2: it's a big money pot because the person wants to Yeah, get.

683
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 3: The tea, you make her money. It's about volume. You

684
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 3: need to fill up your classes.

685
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. So that that made me worry. But then I

686
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 2: also thought, do you think it's a red flag that

687
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 2: she's moving in with Ryan? I mean his past is

688
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 2: that he's a cheater or whatever it may be. Solely

689
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 2: because she financed, can't do it on her own. Are

690
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 2: you like, oh, he's being a nice guy.

691
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 3: I would like for me, I mean, that should not

692
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,360
Speaker 3: be the reason why you move in with a man, ever,

693
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 3: because right there, he he knows that it's about that,

694
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 3: So like the relationship kind of like takes a shift.

695
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 3: So I'm just going to go exactly, I'm just going

696
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 3: to go to your house, and it's just like the

697
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 3: easy way out, and I wouldn't do that. I also

698
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 3: think that somebody has to be because you want establish

699
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,760
Speaker 3: a life together, a relationship, you're in love and whatnot,

700
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 3: but definitely not because you need free rent.

701
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's going to be. I feel like, And

702
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 2: now you know, since we've seen they've gotten engaged, he's

703
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 2: gotten allegedly in all this trouble with the stuff with

704
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 2: the Dodger player, the FBI is involved like all of it.

705
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 2: I'm just like, you're getting yourself deeper and deeper immersed

706
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,359
Speaker 2: Like now it's no longer just you didn't pay your

707
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 2: rent on the place that Drina found for you. Now

708
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 2: we're into a whole, You're into another web of issues,

709
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:09,280
Speaker 2: which worries me. Then Emily, Heather, and Alexis meet for drinks.

710
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 2: Emily asked Alexis about her ring, and Alexis says it's

711
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 2: a promise ring, not an engagement ring. Then Alexis confronts

712
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 2: Emily about talking shit about John on to teas in

713
00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 2: a pod, and Emily said she knows he treated Shannon poorly,

714
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 2: and then Alexis asked Emily if she trust a drunk

715
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 2: woman's opinion. Emily questions why she's defending him after only

716
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 2: dating him for a month. M how do you feel

717
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 2: about promise rings?

718
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 3: First of all, we're adults, you know, and I don't

719
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 3: even think young people do promise rings anymore. A promise

720
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 3: ring is kind of like I promise to never marry you.

721
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 3: That's how I see you, but also marry you.

722
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 2: Remember when we were like in high school and we

723
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:52,919
Speaker 2: would get those rings that it meant like you weren't

724
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 2: going to have sex until like they well, like I

725
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 2: think I got one, Like it's like a chastity ring.

726
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 2: I forget what the called, but they give it to you.

727
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 2: It's like a promise ring and you put it on.

728
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 2: I think mine was like a knockoff David Yeerman and

729
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 2: it met like this, we're together and then when we're

730
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 2: ready to have sex, we're gonna do it. But like

731
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:16,760
Speaker 2: y'all already had sex, what do y'all promise?

732
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 3: And four times a day? So it's like, so no,

733
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 3: I think it's silly. I think it's more for like

734
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 3: publicity and just I just think it's stupid, honestly, between

735
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 3: you and I, it's like, you know what, it's save

736
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 3: the money and get me like a tennis bracelet or

737
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 3: something else, like it could be something else at symbolic.

738
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 3: A piece of jewelry does not have to be a ring.

739
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 3: You could they could be like the people on Love

740
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 3: Is Blind?

741
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,720
Speaker 2: And have you seen these little tappers Whenever you're thinking

742
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 2: about the person that you're with, you tap it and

743
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 2: that lights up their arm. I actually google that be

744
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 2: good for my kids, Just give my little tap, little

745
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:55,399
Speaker 2: bus like. But I feel like Alexis is going into

746
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 2: this season and if she does continue to bring up

747
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 2: to teas in a pod, I'm happy for her to

748
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:02,839
Speaker 2: get an orange thank you.

749
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 3: So I was gonna say, maybe that's like what she wants. Well,

750
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:08,280
Speaker 3: I feel like a lot of times when the women

751
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 3: come in as friends and it's the first season, they

752
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 3: really fight for their position.

753
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 2: Especially after being a housewife.

754
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 3: Exactly that is true in her case. I forgot that

755
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 3: she was a housewife, and you know, after so many years,

756
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,399
Speaker 3: it's kind of like she's coming back and she needs

757
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,799
Speaker 3: to prove herself and there's nothing that's going to stop her,

758
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 3: so there's no consequences. So that's that's what it looks

759
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 3: like she's doing. And then obviously she has John, which

760
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 3: is Shannon's ex boyfriend.

761
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 2: But then Shannon meets with her lawyer, Mike. Shannon was

762
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 2: sentenced to three years of probation. Shan says she's a

763
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 2: hypocrite for always talking about how dumb it is to

764
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 2: get a dui. Then tam and her daughter go to

765
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 2: get tattoos. Sophia has not been on show for eighteen years, yes,

766
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 2: because her father would not allow her to film, and

767
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 2: so it's pretty exciting to see her on And like,

768
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 2: I know Sophia obviously in real life, and she is

769
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 2: like the perfect mix of just like Tamra's spunk, but

770
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 2: also just like having that she's just cool, like I'm

771
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 2: not naturally cool, Like she is just cool. But Tama

772
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 2: wants one one one on her wrist. And then Tamma

773
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 2: gets emotional every time she sees one one one because

774
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 2: she was her other daughter, Sydney would come home. I

775
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 2: love seeing tam get to interact with her kids because

776
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 2: I think so often on the show because the kids

777
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:47,800
Speaker 2: weren't allowed to film.

778
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 3: We didn't get to.

779
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:53,000
Speaker 2: See that side, so I do appreciate that.

780
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was really touching. I love that. No, I

781
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:57,280
Speaker 3: don't have any senses.

782
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 2: You classy, I got a lot. And then on the

783
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 2: way to Heather's lunch, we meet the new housewife, Katie,

784
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 2: who is a friend of Gina's. She was introduced to

785
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 2: Gina Buyston and Katie loves Gina because she has a

786
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 2: zest for life and Gina loves Katie because she's her

787
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:17,879
Speaker 2: age thirty nine.

788
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 3: I feel like that's the number and the requirement to

789
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 3: be a housewife, to be thirty nine. Yeah, I'll like

790
00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 3: the new all the new beans that are coming in

791
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 3: that's like their age gruth.

792
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 2: Well, and then Gina wants to live in her youth

793
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 2: a little bit longer. Then I started to like ask

794
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 2: the question, like do we think a thirty nine year

795
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 2: old and a fifty nine year old can be friends?

796
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 3: I think they can for sure, because I have a

797
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 3: lot of thirty something year old friends and forty something.

798
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 3: For me, age is just a number either of It's

799
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 3: just like a friendship with a girl or even like

800
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 3: with men. You know, it depends obviously the amount in

801
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 3: this case we're talking about two girls, and you know,

802
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 3: thirty nine and fifty nine is a twenty year difference.

803
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 3: But I feel like if you have a mom, you

804
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 3: can relate to her, like there's some similarities like that

805
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,240
Speaker 3: their mom might have. I think it's actually smart because

806
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 3: the fifte nine year old woman has so much wisdom

807
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 3: and insight, and it's great to have an older friend,

808
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 3: you know, the woman that's thirty nine, and then the

809
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 3: fifty nine year old. He is a thirty nine year

810
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 3: old still full of that energy and kind of like

811
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 3: you live through them and you want to keep up.

812
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 3: You know, Younger people, you know, have more energy and

813
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 3: live their life a little differently. I mean, granted, there's

814
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:27,760
Speaker 3: a lot of thirty nine year olds.

815
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 2: Or I'd say I'm forty three, and I'm not full

816
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 2: of energy and zest for life, just like everybody I am.

817
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 3: And that's why I like young people and I attract

818
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 3: young people because I can identify like I'm more. Really

819
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:40,919
Speaker 3: I relate more to younger people, but then I also

820
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 3: have older friends that I relate to them different things

821
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 3: in like you know, career and life experiences, our children,

822
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 3: you know, like our marriages. I mean so much more,

823
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 3: you know, I feel again, that age is just a number.

824
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 3: There's a lot of thirty nine year old women that

825
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 3: are like older old souls, and there's a lot of

826
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 3: fifteenine year old women that are still super mature that

827
00:40:58,640 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 3: you can't even have a conversation with.

828
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 2: So I think also it depends where you are in

829
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 2: your life. Like I think it is hard. Like if

830
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 2: I had a newborn baby right now, and I had

831
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 2: a friend and her youngest child is twenty five, and

832
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 2: we're trying to spend days together, that is hard, Like

833
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 2: do you want to come over and hang out with

834
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 2: me and my baby? Like? There are moments in time

835
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 2: that it's hard. But I think there's situational friendships that

836
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,240
Speaker 2: you come in and you get closer through time, And

837
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 2: so I think that is fine. But how do we

838
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 2: to really get down to it? What do we think

839
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 2: Katie's going to be like as a housewife?

840
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 3: You know, I really can't tell by the first By

841
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 3: her first season, first episode, you know, I felt like

842
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 3: her story was a little bit lost. Honestly, I don't

843
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 3: really remember her too much because I think that shade

844
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 3: I wasn't being shady. I'm sorry, I'm just being honest.

845
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 2: For me.

846
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 3: For some people shadiness. For me, it's honesty. But I'm

847
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:54,400
Speaker 3: just saying I really don't remember her because I don't think.

848
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 2: She's going to be as a housewife. I don't really

849
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 2: remember her, to.

850
00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:00,479
Speaker 3: Be honest, I don't And it's not shady, just saying

851
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,959
Speaker 3: the truth because I felt like I was so more

852
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 3: absorbed with like Shannon's story and Gina and even Tamra,

853
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 3: I mean, all the other things that we've been talking about,

854
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 3: and Emily and and Alexis. I feel like for me

855
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 3: it was more of that.

856
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,720
Speaker 2: So do you think they needed to bring in somebody

857
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 2: new or they could have just left it without It's

858
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 2: too soon to tell.

859
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 3: You can ask me that after a couple of more episodes,

860
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 3: because so far, like I said, I don't really remember her,

861
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 3: so I don't know how much more involvement she's gonna have.

862
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 3: You know, I always think it's good to bring in

863
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 3: new people into the group and throw them in the

864
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 3: mix and see, you know, because sometimes you know you

865
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 3: need it, and if they don't work out, you just

866
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 3: start phasing them out, and you know the viewers will

867
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 3: see that too, But it's too soon to tell.

868
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 2: Then we get to Heathery's throwing a party at the

869
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 2: Balbeoba Club. Gina tells Shannon she feels uncomfortable for her,

870
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 2: and she says she's grateful she's out of the relationship

871
00:42:56,680 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 2: with John. And then they get there. Everybody there's a

872
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 2: lot of activities. I gotta be honest, I don't love

873
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 2: a party with a ton of activities. Like I like

874
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 2: a couple so I can dodge out of conversations. I

875
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 2: don't want to have like, oh, it's my turn for

876
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 2: bracelet making, but I don't need like eighty seven, Like

877
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:17,760
Speaker 2: I just need a good drink and like one.

878
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 3: Good human to talk to, like this kind of parties either.

879
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:24,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, But then Shannon arrives and all the girls are like,

880
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 2: I think Shannon looks great. Things are good. But then

881
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 2: all the women I start to wonder where everybody else

882
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 2: is at the party because all of the women are

883
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 2: like at this one window ram together watching the conversation

884
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 2: between Shannon and Alexis.

885
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 3: I just see that it's funny, and they're all like

886
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 3: trying to like look and see and then.

887
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,320
Speaker 2: They're like yelling at Emily. They're like, Emily, you're spread eagle.

888
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 2: Everybody gets here, but how did you feel? Because I

889
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,240
Speaker 2: really am trying to come into this and not be biased.

890
00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 2: What were your thoughts on how Alexis and Shannon both

891
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 2: handled themselves in this conversation.

892
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:11,520
Speaker 3: I mean, I honestly thought that they could have taken

893
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 3: different directions. I thought Shannon was being honest and she

894
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 3: was just you know, opening up to Alexis, and you know,

895
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 3: Alexis was a little rude. I mean, don't you think.

896
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 3: I mean, I like Alexis, but I'm just saying, like

897
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 3: it was just weird the conversation that they've had, you know,

898
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 3: first episode.

899
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 2: Like, I mean, not to piss you off, but if

900
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 2: if you and Todd don't rekindle after this club Sandwich

901
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 2: tag and a year down the road I end up

902
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 2: with Todd, I would handle it with a little bit more.

903
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,359
Speaker 3: That's not happening. Why don't we put somebody else as

904
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 3: an example? Because I'm Cuban and I'm very feisty, so

905
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 3: we're not going to do that.

906
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 2: Listen, I'm just saying, hypothetically speaking, I would hand.

907
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 3: Guys that they're not friends. So Alexis and when she

908
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 3: meets John, oh yeah, we we that's different.

909
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,240
Speaker 2: We are friends, Okay, So it has to be somebody

910
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 2: else that I don't know.

911
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 3: But regardless, John, don't you think that I never asked

912
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 3: her that. So she told me that when she met

913
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 3: John at the bar she I forgot that she had

914
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 3: been part of the OC cast for many years. So

915
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 3: she's probably still watching, and she's seen John in Shannon's life.

916
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,760
Speaker 2: I mean she I think she told us she didn't watch,

917
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 2: but I mean I feel like everybody says that.

918
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 3: Well, but even the thing now, Teddy's even if you

919
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 3: don't watch these shows, you watch social media and you

920
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 3: follow these bloggers and the barber world and whatnot. So

921
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 3: at some point she had to see John and the

922
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,799
Speaker 3: mess that Shannon's been in also with him. So so

923
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 3: I don't know that I believe it or not. I

924
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 3: feel like she knew who he was, and he probably

925
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 3: knew who she was as well, because if he likes

926
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,800
Speaker 3: all this world, that's why he's with her. Because Amanda

927
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 3: wants nothing to do with this, wouldn't be going on

928
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 3: with Alexus, no.

929
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 2: But also I think maybe where Shannon might have mucked

930
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 2: this up a little bit, and this is coming at Shannon.

931
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 2: This is just I wish she would have led with

932
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 2: John and then brought up Jim Bellino later. But I

933
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 2: think the fact that she was emotional explaining the lawsuit

934
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 2: with Jim Bellino put Alexis on the defense, right, I

935
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 2: wasn't a part of this lawsuit, like blah blah blah.

936
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 2: And then also I Gotana.

937
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,839
Speaker 3: Was saying that she was. She's like, I saw your

938
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 3: signature on the papers and you were an Alexis saying

939
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 3: I wasn't because it was after my divorce with John.

940
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 2: So I think the fact that that happened, I don't know,

941
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 2: especially because we're not talking about like a twenty thousand

942
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 2: dollars lawsuit. We're talking about a three hundred thousand and

943
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 2: a five hundred thousand dollars lawsuit. Like these women Tamra

944
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 2: and Shannon allegedly lost a lot of money in this

945
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 2: lawsuit for something they went on a freaking live podcast.

946
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 2: I mean, it's crazy. But then I just felt like

947
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 2: the conversation was off to the races and there was

948
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 2: gonna be no kindness from Alexis to Shannon after that.

949
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, because she was on the defense, like, I

950
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 2: didn't do it, I know.

951
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:08,799
Speaker 3: But I mean, can you blame Shannon for saying that?

952
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 3: I would have said that too, like our problem is

953
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 3: not only because of John. Our problem is also because

954
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 3: your ex husband, you know, suit us. So I mean

955
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:18,879
Speaker 3: I feel like Shannon had a lot of things to say.

956
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 3: I mean, of course it was to Alexis. Maybe she

957
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 3: would have sent him to Alexis ex husband if you

958
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 3: would have been there, But because you know she's the

959
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 3: ex wife, she was the one that got it. And

960
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:29,360
Speaker 3: again I don't know that she had anything to do

961
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 3: with it. I want to believe Alexis. Alexis says I

962
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 3: had nothing to do with it. It was after he

963
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 3: and I had divorced, and it is what it is.

964
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 3: You know, sometimes your husband's make decisions without counting with you,

965
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,480
Speaker 3: And I don't know that she supported that back in

966
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 3: the day. I don't know that.

967
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:43,919
Speaker 2: I don't know either.

968
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 3: But a lot a lot of things going on like

969
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,280
Speaker 3: against this woman. I mean first her ex husband Susan,

970
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 3: and then now her ex boyfriend is dating her. I mean,

971
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 3: it's a lot.

972
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 2: With a promise friend. But one thing that I will

973
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 2: say in closing out this episode is, no matter what

974
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 2: side you're on, Shannon going straight up to Alexis episode

975
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 2: one for a direct chat is giving the fans everything

976
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:12,120
Speaker 2: that they want like she could have completely avoided that

977
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:13,919
Speaker 2: conversation episode in.

978
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 3: My show, they would have avoided it, right, But in

979
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 3: your show, she went by for it.

980
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 2: Like she went right in. And I was like, and

981
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 2: so I do think we're going to see a lot

982
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 2: of highs and lows. I think we're gonna see the

983
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:31,280
Speaker 2: women having fun. I am really excited for the season.

984
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 2: But I think, as the kids would say, episode one

985
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 2: was giving. It was yes, well, thank you so much

986
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 2: for joining me, and now you're gonna have to go

987
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 2: deeper down the rabbit hole of the past of all

988
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 2: of these women because you are so good at this

989
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 2: and I need you to have this history.

990
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:55,320
Speaker 3: I want to be Yeah, sorry, I just like watched

991
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 3: it last night and with the time difference and stuff,

992
00:48:57,120 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 3: but I am gonna get more involved. I'm gonna watch everything.

993
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 2: So good, are you kidding? I was? That was not

994
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:05,359
Speaker 2: a knock. That was like you are so good.

995
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 3: Good, thank you. I mean, I think it's you know,

996
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:09,640
Speaker 3: I feel like they're going to have a great season.

997
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 3: That's what I'm trying to say. It was so much

998
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 3: for like episode one, there were so many like you know,

999
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 3: stories going on, and like real life shit and that's why. Like,

1000
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,320
Speaker 3: that's what I'm saying. These are all like real life ships,

1001
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 3: personal things that really affect you on your life.

1002
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,760
Speaker 2: It didn't feel fake at all. It didn't feel like bullshit.

1003
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:29,359
Speaker 2: It felt like this is real shit hitting the fan

1004
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:32,480
Speaker 2: for all of these women. Correct, Yeah, oh see, you're

1005
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,359
Speaker 2: back and we appreciate you and thank you so much

1006
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 2: for joining.

1007
00:49:36,120 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 3: Thank you, Seddie,