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Speaker 1: Comedy Saved Me.

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Speaker 2: Comedy subjective. Some people object to some things that we say.

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Speaker 2: I have a saying stop global whining. Let's shut up

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Speaker 2: and stop global whining. As oh my, I feel like

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Speaker 2: Yoda a friend, did you are a crap? I do

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Speaker 1: I'm Lyn Hoffmann, host of the Comedy Save Me podcast,

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Speaker 1: and if you like this podcast, thank you. I'd like

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Speaker 1: to recommend another podcast I host, which is called Music

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Speaker 1: Saved Me, a podcast that explores the healing power of music.

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Speaker 1: On Comedy Saved Me, we delve into the lives of

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Speaker 1: comedians and explore how laughter has transformed their journeys. And

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Speaker 1: today I'm so excited because we have an incredible guest.

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Speaker 1: Dare I call him the Godfather of comedy. He's been

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Speaker 1: making us laugh for decades. Craig Shoemaker is here. He

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Speaker 1: is a legendary comedian, an actor, and author, and he's

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Speaker 1: also been a pioneer in using comedy as a tool

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Speaker 1: for healing and growth. Right up my alley. He also

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Speaker 1: has some very cool projects that he's working on right now,

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Speaker 1: and he's also been doing for many years that we're

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Speaker 1: going to discuss. Welcome Craig Shoemaker to comedy saved me.

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Speaker 2: I'm just excited to talk to you again. We used

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Speaker 2: to hang out in Boston when you were you were

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Speaker 2: the big cheese on the radio in the morning.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so John Lander brought you into my life many

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Speaker 1: years ago. And then subsequently, every Friday that you would

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Speaker 1: perform at the Comedy Connection, you would come to the

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Speaker 1: studio and inevitably I would end up on the floor

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Speaker 1: in tears laughing, and I couldn't even have to go

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Speaker 1: to a commercial break.

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Speaker 2: I just love that. I had it happen. The other

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Speaker 2: day I did TV in Vegas and she was crying.

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Speaker 2: So my face hurts. And that's one of my favorite

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Speaker 2: things is to hurt people in that way. I do

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Speaker 2: a ninety minute show and they say, I have Bell's palsy.

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Speaker 2: If I give you Bell's palsy by the end of

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Speaker 2: the show, I know I've done my job.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that is for sure.

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Speaker 2: And you know, you laugh, it's a release, it's a

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Speaker 2: pain relief, and and it's wonderful to see that. I

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Speaker 2: don't understand if laughter is the best medicine, why is

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Speaker 2: it not being deployed as such?

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Speaker 1: Exactly?

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Speaker 2: Why do we see these commercials constantly? You don't see

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Speaker 2: any comedy commercials. It's all about some drug. It's like

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Speaker 2: they give you the fear, they get you scared, and

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Speaker 2: then they have a commercial that handles the fear that

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Speaker 2: they just gave you the anxiety. We got a pill for.

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Speaker 2: What we just sold you was some anxiety, some stressor,

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Speaker 2: And now here's the pill for. It's something you can't pronounce.

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Speaker 2: It's all the stuff you can't pronounce either. You don't

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Speaker 2: even know what you're putting in you.

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Speaker 1: It comes up with the names for those things to

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Speaker 2: I think they get stone too. How about zimbalfin. I

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Speaker 2: don't know, sounds too much like a dolphin. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: You gotta wonder, you gotta wonder, but they should know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how they come up with these things,

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Speaker 2: but they don't sound very you know, I started my

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Speaker 2: work and laughter heels and a cancer facil and I

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Speaker 2: don't know if you knew this. It can't what they

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Speaker 2: put in them, Like timo, they call it the red death. Now,

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Speaker 2: what kind of a thing is that? Yeah, you just

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Speaker 2: went ooh. I mean now you're trying to live right

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Speaker 2: you're putting something in you called the red death. I mean,

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Speaker 2: why don't they call it Santa Claus come on something

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Speaker 2: or bashful? Yeah, something in your body. We feel like,

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Speaker 2: oh wow, this is a positive energy. It's a positive vibration.

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Speaker 2: And that's what laughter is. It's a positive vibration.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's exactly why I'm so excited to have you here,

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Speaker 1: because you know, like you just said, wouldn't it be

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Speaker 1: great if a commercial came on TV and said, hey, laughter,

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Speaker 1: we figured out a way to put laughter in this patch.

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Speaker 1: Just slap it on your face and you'll laugh all

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Speaker 1: day long, you know, the laugh patch, the laugh patch.

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Speaker 2: I've always said that they should have you know, they

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Speaker 2: have a fit bit. How about laugh bit count your laughs?

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Speaker 1: Oh my godness, that's a great idea.

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Speaker 2: That'd be great. And then have Well, we actually have

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Speaker 2: a business. We're pitching it today. You should come to

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Speaker 2: our pitch meeting. We have laughter Works. We go to

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Speaker 2: Corporate wellness certainly needs that. Oh yeah, and I teach

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Speaker 2: something called guided laffitation and chuckle chatter.

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Speaker 2: Yes, instead of meditating I'm not a great meditator, and

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Speaker 2: I mean, whatever it is, it's oh my god, the kids.

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Speaker 2: So I just I came up with this laffitation. It's

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Speaker 2: something we all love to do. It's really great for

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Speaker 2: The whole premise for me is in all my study.

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Speaker 2: All Laughter Heels, and I worked in a cancer facility

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Speaker 2: to develop this program. And I I just laughter is

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Speaker 2: so is so now you're just doing silly squads or

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Speaker 2: laugh lunges, you know, whatever it is, it's a choice.

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Speaker 2: And then the thing is about comedy. I know yours

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Speaker 2: is called comedy, but comedy is subjective. Some people object

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, everyone's complaining. I have a saying, stop

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Speaker 2: global whining. Let's shut up and stop global whining.

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Speaker 1: I love that.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I feel like Yoda offended. You are

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Speaker 2: sick of everybody's a victim. Now let's take charge of

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Speaker 2: people to effect you and it hurt you because they're

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Speaker 2: That's on you. So it's the same thing with laughter,

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Speaker 2: is a comedy is subjective. You remember Patch Adams, Remember

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Speaker 2: that movie Oh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, remember that was a true story about Patch Adams.

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Speaker 2: make people laugh. That's subjective. If a clown shows up

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Speaker 2: take this rath car. That's what I would be doing,

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Speaker 2: because it's not funny to me. As a matter of fact,

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Speaker 2: But that's the moment where I went. That was my haha,

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Speaker 2: we do laugh atation where it's a choice, just like meditating,

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Speaker 2: and all of that. And so it's been working. It's awesome.

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Speaker 2: I take people through these guys, the laffetation retreats and

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Speaker 1: It must be so, I don't know, fulfilling when you

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Speaker 1: know that you're helping someone heal with with laughter just

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you want to you want to do a little

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Speaker 2: little meditation lafittation right now?

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Speaker 2: But whatever you you're going to cry? Is that what

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Speaker 1: I cry when I laughed. Do you remember when you

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Speaker 1: used to make lander and I laughed so hard? We

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Speaker 1: I never met anyone like that. It was we had

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Speaker 2: Well, we'll do a short one that so you don't

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Speaker 2: get into full tears. But just as this is really

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Speaker 2: great for work. When we're at work, it relieves stress. Ready,

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Speaker 2: just take a big breath through. Everybody do this along

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Speaker 1: Gonna say, can everyone at home do this too?

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Speaker 2: Everyone do this? Ready, take a breath for your nose

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Speaker 2: sound and the resonance from the ha. It's a very

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Speaker 2: spiritual word. It's cleansing. Allow it to cleanse you. You know,

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Speaker 2: in Church's Hallelujah is aloha. In Hawaii's a ha is

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Speaker 2: a beautiful word. Anyway, here we go, breathe in ah,

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Speaker 2: That's a hat sound. Let's do one more. Breathe into

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Speaker 2: in the car. Ready and do it with me. It's contagious.

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Speaker 2: Here we go, look at it. Here we go.

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Speaker 1: Killing me.

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Speaker 2: See that's a really short version of guided laftation. And

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Speaker 2: going to take you upper level to chuckle chatter.

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Speaker 2: By the way. How are you feeling right now? A

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Speaker 2: little stress less stress right, no pressure.

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Speaker 1: I feel less stressed. But to be honest with you,

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Speaker 1: I was so excited to see you again after all

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Speaker 1: these years. I'm a little nervous because I want to

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Speaker 1: make sure that I do everything right by you, because

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Speaker 1: you know you're my people.

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Speaker 2: But laughter does that though. It takes you out of that,

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Speaker 2: It's mindful to laugh. We rewire, we rewire the brain

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Speaker 2: when we do this, and it's amazing the results that

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Speaker 2: have happened. Your oxygenating, your body, healing and endorphins are released.

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Speaker 2: Stress is being relieved, which is a huge, huge cause

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Speaker 2: of illness. So people don't realize this. That really is

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Speaker 2: the best medicine. Here's the way to deploy it is

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Speaker 2: the laftation. And we'll get to the chuckle chatter later.

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Speaker 2: But even if you are nervous, it takes away to nerves.

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Speaker 1: Need to be a professor at a college and teach

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Speaker 2: But what you're saying it don't make enough money with me.

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Speaker 2: I got to make a lot of money.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 2: Well, I have a few ex wives. By the way,

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Speaker 2: all my shows, my comedy shows, are benefit shows and

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Speaker 2: all proceeds go to my ex wives. I just thought

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Speaker 2: I'll let you know that if you pay a cover

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Speaker 2: for my show, it goes to botox and pilates class.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, the client and the cult.

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Speaker 2: Of my ex wife join. She's in a cult, so

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Speaker 2: it all goes to the cults.

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Speaker 2: I wrote them letters. I said, you should meet my mother.

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Speaker 1: How did I miss those episodes? Was that when Whoopee

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, And but the only problem is I'm not

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Speaker 1: I don't even remember what I said. But those boxes

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Speaker 2: I mean my life was all about this. Really is

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Speaker 2: about it? You got a lot, you got a few choices,

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Speaker 2: light and laughter. Let's bring that and we and the

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Speaker 1: It does. If we lift each other up, everybody wins.

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Speaker 2: It was fair Foster did my movie The Love Master.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, right, that's right, baby, Yeah, yeah, you see naked

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Speaker 2: I couldn't believe it. She was doing my movie for

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Speaker 2: there was there was no horne in my crotch. I'm

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Speaker 2: reaches over for my junk. Really now, oh yeah.

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Speaker 1: Full on, Fara Fawcet groped you.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, and I was not gonna sue. I was gonna

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Speaker 1: Thank you, ma'am. Can I have another exactly?

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately I wasn't ready for my close up though, so

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you might need two hands to handle the

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, but she was so sweet and yes, the

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Speaker 2: And she goes, she hangs, she shuts the door in

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Speaker 3: That wasn't my hand that rang the door bill. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: Because that's what the women the women. That's why the

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Speaker 1: Uh, fun friend.

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Speaker 2: I was always doing a good friend. I was so

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Speaker 2: let's go.

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Speaker 1: What did you do while they were using doing the

434
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Speaker 1: makeup and the I just.

435
00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,960
Speaker 2: Sit on the tub. You know, everybody's smoking cigarettes back

436
00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,920
Speaker 2: then and everything. Oh then they go Tommy's hot, George's hot,

437
00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:46,439
Speaker 2: and I'm going, yeah, I'll fix you up. I know

438
00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,800
Speaker 2: those guys. Yeah, yeah, because they were always bad guys.

439
00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:49,520
Speaker 2: And that's when I'm there.

440
00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,560
Speaker 1: You were a professional wingman when you were a kid.

441
00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:56,080
Speaker 2: I was a wingman before there were wings on my side.

442
00:20:58,160 --> 00:20:59,600
Speaker 1: No wonder you went into comedy.

443
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:04,239
Speaker 2: That's exactly why. Another thing that again, that was a

444
00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,480
Speaker 2: pain point for me. You know, I wanted girls and

445
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,560
Speaker 2: they didn't want me. I asked thirteen girls to go

446
00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:12,560
Speaker 2: to the prom. I actually had a funny thing happen. Again,

447
00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,000
Speaker 2: these are a law of attraction things I want to

448
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 2: tell people. Just be patient with your life, you know,

449
00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:21,000
Speaker 2: just you know, it will unfold the way it's supposed

450
00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:24,240
Speaker 2: to unfold. So I'm on I was on a TV

451
00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,639
Speaker 2: show with Cindy Crawford to be That's great advice.

452
00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,240
Speaker 1: By the way, what you just said really great advice.

453
00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:33,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean just wait, you know, be patient. Grand

454
00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,199
Speaker 2: Canyon is the most beautiful thing you've ever seen, but

455
00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:40,080
Speaker 2: it was not created in three days. Sometimes these creations

456
00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:43,120
Speaker 2: need to take their time, you know, in the pace

457
00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,479
Speaker 2: of a higher source, not our own pace with our

458
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,800
Speaker 2: own fears. So I'm on this NBC show with the

459
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Speaker 2: Cindy Crawford she got They gave her a week on

460
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Speaker 2: NBC to have her own show, late night show, and

461
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 2: I was one of her guests. She was that she

462
00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:58,520
Speaker 2: went to the premiere and she's talking to me. She goes, Craig,

463
00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 2: you must have had a lot of girls because you're

464
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,359
Speaker 2: the love master. I go, oh, no, Cindy. As a

465
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,399
Speaker 2: matter of fact, I asked thirteen girls of the prom

466
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,240
Speaker 2: and the one who went with me, Linda Scott, she

467
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,440
Speaker 2: made out with Ricky aldemer in the corner, even though

468
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,639
Speaker 2: I paid for her corsage and all that, and I

469
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,880
Speaker 2: looked in the cant of I go, well, Linda, I'm

470
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 2: sitting here with Cindy Crawford suit card out. So then

471
00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,119
Speaker 2: it turns out he was watching, and so is Ricky

472
00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:25,800
Speaker 2: Aldemayer's wife. The emailed me. I got a little revenge

473
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,920
Speaker 2: for that. She was the thirteenth one I asked out

474
00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:30,920
Speaker 2: because she would look good for the photos. I didn't

475
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,320
Speaker 2: wasn't dating or anything, but yeah, she made it up

476
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,919
Speaker 2: with Ricky Aldemier. He was there with someone else and

477
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,720
Speaker 2: I saw them in the corner. But you know, those

478
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,760
Speaker 2: things will cause comedy, and comedy is truth. If you

479
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,399
Speaker 2: can tell the truth out there, that makes for the

480
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,920
Speaker 2: best comedians. And the truth is we all have pain,

481
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:52,680
Speaker 2: but sufferings the choice I choose not to suffer.

482
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's for sure, and you share that with people,

483
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 1: which is like the best part of all. How do

484
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Speaker 1: you navigate though the challenging landscape, if you will, of comedy,

485
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 1: especially with the way society has sort of evolved in

486
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 1: the last I don't know. Decade. It's a really interesting time.

487
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,440
Speaker 2: It's funny. It's what do you use that where it's devolve? Yeah,

488
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 2: this is evolving. It really is. When you're playing the

489
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:23,040
Speaker 2: victim role and finger pointing and taking somebody's words of

490
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 2: like maybe two hundred and eighty characters and make that

491
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Speaker 2: their entire character and attack them for that, and it's

492
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Speaker 2: amazing to me. This is another paradigm I'd like to

493
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 2: switch is let's embrace the comedians. Let's lift the comedians,

494
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 2: and let us have that voice that is going to

495
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 2: expose the people that are corrupt. We are the curtain polers.

496
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Speaker 2: We have no money behind us. You know, there's no union.

497
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 1: No.

498
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Speaker 2: I have a friend who did comedy for years. My

499
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 2: opening act with Godfather my son. He's almost homeless because

500
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 2: he can't work. He has no residuals. We have nobody

501
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 2: to support us. I'm not playing a victim either, But

502
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 2: that's just the fact. Comedians are out there literally giving

503
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,840
Speaker 2: you your medicine, literally making you happy. That's our goal,

504
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 2: it's our only goal. Yes, we're going to make some money,

505
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 2: but there's not that many multimillionaire comedians. Definitely not very

506
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 2: few billionaire comedians. But the billionaires get away with everything

507
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 2: because the lemmings that follow them do their bidding for them.

508
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 2: But what part of the bidding is, I'm going to

509
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 2: attack the messenger, the comedian who's trying to expose these

510
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:30,239
Speaker 2: things in a funny way. That's what's really odd to

511
00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 2: me is how many people are attacking and canceling comedians.

512
00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 2: Go cancel a congressman. You can cancel a lawmaker, Cancel

513
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 2: a lobbyist. Cancel somebody poison poisoning your crops. Cancel somebody

514
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 2: who's making drugs that are really really bad, they're fentanyl

515
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 2: and stuff to go, cancel them. Not a comedian who

516
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,400
Speaker 2: for one joke. If you don't like the joke, I say,

517
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 2: move on to the next one. There's another one common

518
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 2: that you're gonna like.

519
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,160
Speaker 1: It's like New England weather just wait a minute, yeah.

520
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 2: Or New England clam Or you might not like the potatoes.

521
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 2: I don't like the potatoes. I love the clamps.

522
00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 1: Well, it's just so easy if you're laughing, because that

523
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 1: coming through your nose is not and it will with me.

524
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 1: I tell people all the time, Craig, I live in

525
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:18,119
Speaker 1: this world of television commercials, advertising, and things, And I

526
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,159
Speaker 1: try to tell the close people in my world that

527
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,680
Speaker 1: I speak to being victimy that you talk about, it's

528
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:28,679
Speaker 1: sort of just being lazy. And also, if there's so

529
00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 1: much thing like you said, if they can keep you scared,

530
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 1: they can control what you do, and there's no use

531
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 1: in arguing about it. It's more like, you know, you're

532
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 1: just willing to follow the pack as opposed to kind

533
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 1: of blaze your own trail. And that's not easy for

534
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:45,400
Speaker 1: people at all to understand.

535
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 2: I've always liked you, and now I'm realizing why you

536
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 2: have a wisdom about you that you even had when

537
00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 2: you were twenty two years old. That is absolutely so wise.

538
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 2: What you just said.

539
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 1: What did I say?

540
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,120
Speaker 2: Want to you know what I said?

541
00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:58,160
Speaker 1: I don't even know what I said.

542
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 2: You're onto the formula that get you in fear, and

543
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 2: then the masses follow and so on. That's paraphrasing what

544
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 2: you were saying. But that's that's exactly what It is obvious.

545
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 2: But we just fall for it.

546
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 1: If you But people don't believe me. And I'm I'm embedded,

547
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: like I'm here, I do imaging and marketing and commercials

548
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 1: and things, and so I understand how they're and now

549
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 1: it's really scary Craig because it's literally like one to

550
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 1: one advertising, Like you say something, your phone hears it,

551
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 1: and you turn on the TV. Bam, there's a commercial

552
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: specifically for you, not the next door neighbor.

553
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 2: I know.

554
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 1: So it's gone to the days like did you see

555
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 1: that hilarious spot on TV?

556
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:39,640
Speaker 2: No?

557
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,199
Speaker 1: No, I didn't see it because I was watching the

558
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,439
Speaker 1: same channel. But something else came up for me.

559
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 2: I'm hoping that it comes up. You want a billion dollars.

560
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 2: I'm thinking that's going to come up on my screen sometime.

561
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,159
Speaker 2: You one a billion dollars. It's amazing to me. I

562
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 2: actually said, Ioner, if my hair is being lost here

563
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 2: and then boom every day, yep, here's transplants coming across

564
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 2: my phone. It's insane. I'm trying to figure out.

565
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 1: I think I work on my house. He's I got

566
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 1: to go. So why are you gotta go?

567
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 2: Oh?

568
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,159
Speaker 1: My dad called me and he told me, did you

569
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 1: see that commercial for shingles? You better go right now?

570
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: And and I was like what what? What?

571
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 2: And here like you're working on my house? No, I

572
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 2: met the shingles on my roof. But yeah, start hammering it.

573
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 1: Was so weird. But but I but I saw that

574
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 1: that fear in his eyes, Like, well, if I see

575
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 1: it and they're and they're scaring me, it's easy to

576
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 1: control when people are scared. It's easy to control what

577
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 1: you do, what you buy, all of it.

578
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 2: I'm just amazed how people aren't listening to their true sense.

579
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 2: But I speak, and when I I, you know, I coach. Now,

580
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 2: I do a lot of coaching, executive coaching.

581
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 1: That's why I wanted you to come on here, because

582
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 1: I know you're an expert at laughter and healing. And yeah,

583
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 1: I love.

584
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,479
Speaker 2: I love some of the work that I've done to

585
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,479
Speaker 2: have people have personal transformations. And none of it happened

586
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 2: from pop and a pill. It all happened from some

587
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 2: changes and shifts that they needed to make, some mindset shifts.

588
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 2: And it's amazing to watch how they transmute this paint

589
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 2: into pleasure and happiness and joys. And it's an easy choice,

590
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 2: but it's amazing how we don't make it because all

591
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 2: they're doing is feeding us that crap. And now they're

592
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 2: literally feeding us crap. We are the most obese country

593
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 2: in the world. We're the first world country, but we

594
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 2: have these third world problems of diabetes and heart issues

595
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 2: and everything else. And then they get mad at somebody

596
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 2: for saying you're fat shaming or whatever it is. Well,

597
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 2: how about trying your do your own inventory on this,

598
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 2: watch what you're eating, and really be conscious about what

599
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 2: you're eating. But not only that, be conscious about protesting

600
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 2: comedians as opposed to protest to people that are making

601
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 2: this crap that you're addicted to. It's so people whose

602
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 2: processed foods. Of course, it's hard. Everything is hard. It

603
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 2: was really hard for me to deal with no support

604
00:28:59,560 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 2: when I was kidnapped and I came back from being kidnapped,

605
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 2: I was thirteen, really really hard. I was suicidal, by

606
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 2: the way, talk about laughter. So my mom raises by herself,

607
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 2: and you know, and I told my mom what happened,

608
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 2: and she said, ever telling you of this again, which

609
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 2: I would never do to my children. You cannot keep

610
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 2: secrets like that, Oh no, because that's a point of shame,

611
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 2: and you know you're gonna shame. And I started drinking

612
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,360
Speaker 2: at thirteen and stuff like that. Well, then I suicide.

613
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 2: I wanted to kill myself. I had no reason to live.

614
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 2: And this was a guy I empowered to be like

615
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 2: a father figure, and he took me away, and it

616
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 2: is a really bad situation, my god. But so I

617
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 2: put these neckties. I tied these neckties together, and I

618
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 2: threw them over the closet door, and I tied them

619
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 2: on the doorknob, and I made a news that I

620
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 2: learned in boy Scouts, and I started dangling and choking,

621
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 2: and my mom comes in, just, oh, my god, what

622
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,719
Speaker 2: are you doing? She goes, that was her new neckties.

623
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: Get up, Only you would turn that into a comedy situation.

624
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 2: He did say that, wow, And I could get up

625
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 2: by the way I was on my knees. I just

626
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 2: got up, you know. I mean, I wasn't really doing it,

627
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,719
Speaker 2: but there was some part of me that wanted to

628
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,480
Speaker 2: be checked out instead of now and check in all

629
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 2: the time and just you know, be who we truly are.

630
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 2: We're meant to be love, light and laughter. It's what

631
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 2: we're meant to be. You know, let's do a laugh bit.

632
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 2: You know, children laugh three hundred times a day and

633
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 2: adults laugh twenty We need to you know, catch the

634
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 2: kids here, you know what I mean. Like, that's why

635
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 2: we need a laugh bit. We need we need to

636
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 2: laugh that much where instinctually, it's I call it the

637
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 2: seventh sense, our sense of humor.

638
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 1: Ooh, I've never heard of that before. That's awesome.

639
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 2: You're so right. It's the seventh sense. We all know

640
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 2: the sixth senses, intuition and things like that. We all

641
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 2: know the five senses, our seventh sense, which we ignore that.

642
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 2: We don't even call it that. I'm starting to call

643
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 2: it that with my business. It's something we ignore. But

644
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 2: we need to have that sense of self, our sense

645
00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 2: of humor, because it goes away. We're born laughing, right,

646
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 2: Peek a boo makes you laugh. Yeah, it's simplest thing

647
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 2: in the world. We don't analyze them all that stupid stuff.

648
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 2: I three stooges, honey, it's you're just laughing. It's the

649
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 2: silliest crap ever. There's no punchlines or anything. But it's

650
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 2: so simple. Then we make it complex because we indoctrinate

651
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 2: children to believe you must follow and regurgitate. You regurgitate

652
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 2: the information we give you. I can still tell you

653
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 2: fourteen hundred and ninety two Columbus Saale, the Ocean Blue,

654
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 2: Nina Penta Sentamury I can live right.

655
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 1: Wow, Yeah, that was good.

656
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 2: What purpose does that serve me?

657
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 1: Right?

658
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 2: And it turns out he wasn't such a great guy either,

659
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 2: like took the holiday away. We grew up a Columbus,

660
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 2: Columbu this Italian day. Now they're going, who wha, whoa, whoa, whoa.

661
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 2: He annihilated entire cultures. I mean literally.

662
00:31:58,160 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: Anyway, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm.

663
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 2: Not gonna to get into the politics. People get upset.

664
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 2: To My point is, I'm just regurgitating what they tell

665
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 2: me to learn. And that's what school is, yep. And

666
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 2: for your compliance, you get an award, an award, whatever

667
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 2: it is. Even if you go to war, you get

668
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 2: a little metal, get a little metal. Here, do your job.

669
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 2: We're gonna tell you who to hate, We're gonna tell

670
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 2: you who your enemy is. You're gonna go fight for us.

671
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 2: And that's how the world operates. I'm saying, listen to

672
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 2: your true sense of self, and if wants none of that,

673
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 2: it doesn't want violence, it doesn't want to fight or

674
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 2: be angry or raging or hate. That's not what your

675
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,800
Speaker 2: true self wants. But we've been taught that. So I

676
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 2: have a program literally when I coach groups individuals to

677
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 2: recondition to be who we really are reprogram through a

678
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 2: programming that I've developed and including what you did earlier.

679
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 2: Just a little bit bit of it is shifting your

680
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 2: vibration through the power of laughter.

681
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: There's something about vibration that is scientific. Like you would

682
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: mention upfront.

683
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 2: The other thing you're wise about. That's exactly right. We

684
00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 2: are all energy. Yeah, yeah, that's what we are.

685
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: We are electricity in us, Like we don't plug into

686
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: a wall. That's always baffled me.

687
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 2: And now we have false electricity guiding us. These smartphones

688
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 2: that make it idiots.

689
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, dumb phones.

690
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 2: I mean it's making it's it's making me into an idiot.

691
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 2: You know what's happening is, yeah, I scroll. I'm guilty.

692
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 2: I scroll, okay, and I late night scroll, which is

693
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 2: not good. That's bad for it, Like give the insomnia.

694
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 2: I mean I boom. Now what's happening is my hard

695
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 2: drive in my head only has so much space, right,

696
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,960
Speaker 2: we only have someone space, so valuables have. Stuff has

697
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 2: to leave my brain, so crap like what you have

698
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 2: for dessert on Instagram goes in. That's what is everybody

699
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 2: so self obsessed? Oh, let me show you what I

700
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 2: have my life, how beautiful. It is so now it's

701
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 2: like now that's being programmed into me. So now everybody.

702
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 2: So there's a new custom probably the last twenty years.

703
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 2: I'm in the restaurant. It comes up. He goes, my

704
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 2: name is Kad, I'll be your weight. I go, do

705
00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 2: I have to memorize your name?

706
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: Is there gonna be a talent?

707
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 2: You just you just replaced myself. This is a security number.

708
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 2: Don't don't give me the specials. I'll lose my Gmail password.

709
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,400
Speaker 2: Gmail password pisses me off, by the way. It's always

710
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 2: fighting with me talking about fighting. It's not strong enough.

711
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 2: They're called me a wuss over here. They're arguing, that's

712
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 2: my password, and they go, try a symbol, try a number,

713
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 2: Try how's this pound pound pound jackass? But yeah, everywhere, Yeah,

714
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 2: that one gets right through. Yeah, of course I all

715
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 2: know my Gmail password.

716
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: Is this the classes that you're teaching? Is that part

717
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,320
Speaker 1: of Laughter Heels the Laughter Heels foundation that you started

718
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:36,240
Speaker 1: that a while back?

719
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that was inspired because I will tell you

720
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 2: positive and I don't want to call anything negative, but

721
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 2: you know I was. I've been doing comedy for years

722
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 2: and all these people come up to me, especially Detroit.

723
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 2: That was the first time it happened. I'll never forget

724
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 2: Kim and say, hey, thank you so much. I just

725
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,239
Speaker 2: thought they were saying thanks for the laughs that night,

726
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 2: and I said, no, really, we were told we couldn't

727
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 2: have a child. We tried in vitro every then we

728
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 2: gave up. We saw your show, went home. My husband

729
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 2: pretended he was a love master. I had a wonderful time,

730
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 2: and we had a baby girl nine months later, right,

731
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 2: And that's when I thought to himse, wow, that laughter

732
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 2: is good medicine. And I thought, wow, you're not trying

733
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 2: to have a child, You're just allowing. You're creating space,

734
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 2: a laughter space and all that. So then I had

735
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 2: all these other people set up, like one, I have

736
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 2: a photo. I should show it to you, conceived in

737
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 2: the parking lot of the Brave Improv minutes after my show.

738
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 2: They couldn't even wait till they got home. And there's

739
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,760
Speaker 2: this little girl who came out laughing. It's the funniest

740
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 2: little picture that they sent me.

741
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: How does that make you feel when that happens?

742
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 2: Oh, I just love it. I love it. I embrace

743
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 2: it because I'm saying it's not an ego thing. I go, oh,

744
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 2: laughter works, not Craig works. Now I happen to be

745
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 2: the messenger of the laughs. That's great, But I always

746
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,760
Speaker 2: tell people go wherever he needs. You might think I stink.

747
00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter to me. Just go somewhere else and

748
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,919
Speaker 2: go get the laughs or do a guided laffittation. It's

749
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 2: your choice. So and then my my child, Jared, was

750
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:11,239
Speaker 2: adopted and no breast milk. Guess where his breast milk

751
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 2: came from? Breton. Mindy couldn't conceive. I said, come to

752
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 2: my show. They did. They had sex and they had

753
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 2: baby Cooper, who was born one week different from Jared. Yes,

754
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 2: one week. So we would go to the farmers farmers

755
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 2: market and get Mindy's breast milk like a drug deal.

756
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 1: Did she ever fridge all stocked up?

757
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,359
Speaker 2: She's frozen for us.

758
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 1: This is Jared.

759
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 2: This is oh yeah, because I gave them life and

760
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:40,920
Speaker 2: they give they give Jared life of you know this, uh,

761
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,280
Speaker 2: and it's this twenty years ago. I mean, so anyway,

762
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 2: all to get to the story of Michael Goldberg, he

763
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 2: wrote Cool Running His Little Giants. One of my best

764
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 2: friends from Philly with Eagles parties everywhere. I mean, we

765
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 2: just were bonded. He directed the Love Master movie with

766
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 2: Farah Faws and we're in Arizona filming some of it

767
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 2: and his wife they wanted to have a baby, Karen,

768
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 2: who actually was my blind date at first. He married

769
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:09,319
Speaker 2: her and so Karen says, I'm ovulating. We're in a

770
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,439
Speaker 2: condo about to watch our eagles actually, and I said, hey, man,

771
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 2: do the Love Master. It works for a lot of people.

772
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 2: It's a fertility clinic over here. They said, yeah, it's

773
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,320
Speaker 2: a great idea. So I said, I'll go get sandwiches.

774
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 2: And I went and got sandwiches, came back. They were

775
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 2: already done. I guess Love Master did his job.

776
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: Wow.

777
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 2: Baby Kayla was born nine months later. What yeah, So how.

778
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 1: Many kids is this? How many kids is this? Now?

779
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 2: I can't well? I five? I count five for sure.

780
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 1: Wow.

781
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 2: Conceived by guys doing the Love Master.

782
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 1: Do you keep in touch with them?

783
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you the story with Golds. His name's Golds.

784
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 2: Michael Goldberg. Oh again, a comedy guy. Really funny dude.

785
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 2: We bonded through laughter, which is another thing we bond

786
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 2: with our kids. I talked about this when I coaches it.

787
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 2: Who do you bond with from your childhood people you

788
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 2: laugh with, right, you share laughter together. That's the You

789
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 2: don't want to hang out with some miserable gloom and

790
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 2: doom person, right, Yeah, although misery loves company sometimes. But anyway,

791
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 2: a year and a half after Kayla was born, he

792
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 2: was diagnosed with brain cancer. In the game three Months

793
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 2: to Live. That was my moment why I'm on your show,

794
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 2: because that was the moment I went, ah, if laughter

795
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 2: is the best medicine, let's prove it. And I started

796
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 2: this program in a cancer facility in the valley. He

797
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 2: showed up for all of it. I just was making

798
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 2: it up as I went along. I did a lot

799
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 2: of research. There's a lot of science that backs this up.

800
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 2: On my new business of Laughter Works, we actually have

801
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 2: the top neuroscience from Harvard. He's on our board now

802
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 2: and this is all backed up. This is this serious.

803
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 2: Take laughter seriously. I mean, it really is what it

804
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 2: does to you for your healing process, and if anything

805
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 2: it does, it gives you a will to live. The

806
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 2: more you want to laugh. He took all my prescriptions.

807
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,439
Speaker 2: I said, hey, let's all exchange our favorite common movies,

808
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 2: even saying the name of the movie is funny. And

809
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 2: fun or a quote from the movie if I say

810
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:11,839
Speaker 2: those aren't pillows, planes, trains, automobiles, and then people laugh

811
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 2: just at the thought of that scene. If those aren't pillows,

812
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 2: Uh huh. Anyway, how about the Bears game housekeeping? See

813
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 2: what I mean? So you're laughing just at the thought.

814
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 2: That's the vibration that's being exchanged between us right now.

815
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 2: He shows up for all of it, does all the prescriptions.

816
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 2: I say, go to comedy shows. He was so many

817
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 2: of my shows. He came three months to live. He

818
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 2: lived fifteen years past that product. Fifteen years.

819
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Craig, I'm gonna cry and I don't

820
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: have any tissues. Now you're making me cry. Holy crap.

821
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 2: And he had a team of about five of us

822
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 2: would like you know, look, he went through the chemos

823
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 2: and stuff like that as well. But he had his

824
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 2: will to live. You can't coach he really did, and

825
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 2: he showed up for all of it. And then, if

826
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 2: I may get a little people can tune away if

827
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 2: you don't want to hear a semi crude story. But

828
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 2: it is funny. Okay, it's a little risque. But how

829
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 2: about you just take those things out of what you

830
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 2: think is riskue, and just listen to this story for

831
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 2: what it is, the true story. He was in hospice

832
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 2: and it was the end. Who's actually living in an

833
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,760
Speaker 2: old folks home at fifty years old? That's so sad,

834
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 2: you know, to go in there. By the way, if ever,

835
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 2: I'm in need of a self esteem boost, I can

836
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 2: get laid in these old people's homes. I'm a studying there.

837
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,760
Speaker 2: They would just walk up and go, I'm taking a closet.

838
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 2: I have no teeth, I'm perfect for you. It was unbelievable.

839
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 2: I will I never felt like such a stud I

840
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 2: mean wow. So anyway, that's rightly you say.

841
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,879
Speaker 1: Venereal diseases are up in retirement homes and old age

842
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 1: homes and stuff, so that is true.

843
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 2: Let him have fun. What the hell exactly? What else

844
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 2: are you gonna judge them? They don't even judge anymore.

845
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 2: Who cares anymore? At that point? While I go in

846
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 2: there and we film this actually for a movie called

847
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 2: Laughter Heels. I have a nonprofit called Laughter Heels, which

848
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 2: I formed for him, and we go to hospitals, after

849
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:11,760
Speaker 2: care facilities, wounded warriors, first responders. We help people find

850
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 2: this joy and this laughter in their lives because they're

851
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 2: dealing with difficult circumstances and this will shift them in

852
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 2: no other way, no better way. So he shows up

853
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 2: off it and then he ends up in a coma.

854
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,879
Speaker 2: He's literally in a coma we have where we filmed it,

855
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 2: and I said, well can I I said, old, what

856
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,760
Speaker 2: can we do for you? He's just staring, literally staring

857
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:32,799
Speaker 2: in this. I was like waving my hand in front

858
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 2: of him. What could I do? Man? What can I

859
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:39,399
Speaker 2: do to help you? I leaned in, I said, want

860
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:43,280
Speaker 2: me to give you a handy. I never done anybody

861
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 2: but my own. I'm really good with my own. I'll

862
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 2: give you a handy. He came out of a coma

863
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 2: and he goes and he laughed, shut up. I told

864
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 2: him I was going to whack them off.

865
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,800
Speaker 1: I believe that's called no. I shouldn't say it. Sorry,

866
00:41:58,280 --> 00:41:58,920
Speaker 1: I'll say it.

867
00:41:59,000 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 2: Say it.

868
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: I think that's called handj He left off the j

869
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 1: for my crew comedy friends.

870
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 2: And I didn't know that. From now on, when I

871
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 2: tell the story, I'll make it up that I didn't

872
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 2: say Jay. I actually said, I'll tell you what I said.

873
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 2: I said, you want me to jerk you off? Because

874
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 2: that's a photo. It it got put off. That's that's

875
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 2: the big They'll call you a jayo with the accent.

876
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,439
Speaker 2: You're a jay o. It's the worst thing.

877
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 1: But he woke up. He woke up and laught, laughed,

878
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 1: he laughed. Were there's doctors in the room that saw

879
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 1: this happen?

880
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 2: Well, it was definitely one of our friends was in

881
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 2: the room because he was filming it. And whoa Mark

882
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 2: Ben He was a director and he yeah, he was there,

883
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 2: and yeah, I think there's a there was a nurse

884
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 2: there that saw this. He was just a wave in

885
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 2: my hand. There was no way he was. And he

886
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 2: he had been in a coma before. I remember, like

887
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 2: years before, and when he came out of a coma,

888
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 2: I actually said, you could hear us, couldn't you. He goes, yeah,

889
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 2: I can hear you in a coma that they act

890
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 2: like they can't or they don't or whatever the case is.

891
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 2: But anyway, he heard me and he laughed because you

892
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 2: knew that was And he died two days later. But

893
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 2: I'm happy and proud that it made him laugh. Oh

894
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,800
Speaker 2: my gosh, you know, And that's a great legacy. I'll

895
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:10,759
Speaker 2: take that one all day long. And by the way,

896
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:12,720
Speaker 2: I didn't go through with it. I didn't.

897
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: I wasn't even going to ask that, but thanks for

898
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:16,719
Speaker 1: letting us know, because I know.

899
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 2: Your mind, your promise, you maker, no no Jayo.

900
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 1: Well you know, it's interesting that you bring that up

901
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: because this was leading me to my next question.

902
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 2: I can't imagine where Jao goes to your next question.

903
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 1: Don't you love that this is called the Jao segue?

904
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,280
Speaker 2: Is a first? I guarantee it's a first.

905
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,800
Speaker 1: How can Lynn take that and roll it into.

906
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 2: Something I'm waiting, I'm sitting back. Where's Lynn going with?

907
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 2: I know she's a genius on the microphone. Let's see

908
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 2: where this is going. Go ahead.

909
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: Well I wouldn't go that far, but thank you, I'll

910
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: take it. Looking back on your career, which has been

911
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 1: long and less curious because I don't even know if

912
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 1: that's a word less curious, but I found stuff from

913
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 1: you from like the early eighties and stuff. So you've

914
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,399
Speaker 1: been at this a long time. And if you look

915
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:06,839
Speaker 1: back on your whole career, especially with everything that you've

916
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 1: been through, we didn't even touch on your relationship with

917
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: your dad when he came back into your life. I

918
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: do believe. Yeah, yeah, there was a But what do

919
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: you hope for, especially with all of these foundations, What

920
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 1: do you hope that your legacy will be? And how

921
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 1: do you want to be remembered in the world of comedy.

922
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 2: It's funny us to say that there's a difference between

923
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:32,719
Speaker 2: comedy and laughter, and that's something I feel like me

924
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 2: finding that difference is important for the world to understand

925
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:40,839
Speaker 2: because we're divided on what makes us laugh. We're not

926
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:44,399
Speaker 2: divided when we are laughing. That's a good quote, isn't it.

927
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 1: That is You should put that on a T shirt.

928
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, write that down right.

929
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: I only have a sharpie.

930
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 2: It's not going to come up with all these quotes.

931
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:53,320
Speaker 2: The other day it came up with seven cents.

932
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 1: Actually, I love it. But we're recording this so it's

933
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 1: in there.

934
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. I want my lega see to be For instance,

935
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 2: I have a legacy business. Now laughter works. We're we're

936
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 2: going to change corporate wellness and turn it on its head.

937
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 2: And it's a huge business. And look, I've found out

938
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 2: in life that's not about awards and rewards. I was

939
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 2: a community or at American Comedy Awards. It's like the

940
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 2: big it's the Oscar of Comedy. It's on ABC. It

941
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 2: was presented by Lily Tomlin. You know, do you know

942
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 2: it was the loneliest night of my life? Really yeah,

943
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 2: because I got there and I'm going, wow, first, there's

944
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 2: no there there. Then I see people backstage. My contemporaries

945
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 2: are shining me off. You know that night they did.

946
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 2: I was driving around in a limo with my big

947
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:46,760
Speaker 2: award and you get imposter syndrome. And it was a really,

948
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:50,439
Speaker 2: really lonely night. But it also became a point where

949
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 2: I could go, Okay, what is this about? Is this

950
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 2: about my ego? So what's the legacy? The legacy is

951
00:45:56,520 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 2: if I can teach people and guide people into a

952
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 2: new realm of possibility with the power of laughter, then

953
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:07,280
Speaker 2: I'm doing my job. It's not about me being rewarded.

954
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:10,360
Speaker 2: Like I know, I have a trophy next to you.

955
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 2: I don't want to brag, but I do. I want

956
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 2: to brag about let's see it. So I've got a

957
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 2: couple of EM's back here, and I've got the Comedian

958
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 2: or American Comedy Awards Supporting Actor and all this kind

959
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 2: of stuff. But here this award right here, keep it

960
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 2: next to me. I won the horses ass Award and

961
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:26,280
Speaker 2: I actually reunion.

962
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 1: That's an ass of a horse made into an award.

963
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:31,439
Speaker 1: Holy mode.

964
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:34,439
Speaker 2: I won this trophy the horses asked of my ex

965
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 2: wife's family reunion from by the way your area, Massachusetts.

966
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 2: I won that award and I deserve and I deserved

967
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 2: and earned that reward an award.

968
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: Wow, are you still friends with your exes?

969
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,320
Speaker 2: No, on one of them, for sure.

970
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:51,520
Speaker 1: No.

971
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 2: I don't know that that could ever be repaired unless

972
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 2: something happened with her like a lightning bolt, understood, wake

973
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 2: her up into I've done my job with both. I

974
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:08,840
Speaker 2: have done my job literally, all the forgiveness, all of

975
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:10,959
Speaker 2: the amends, everything that I need to do to clean

976
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 2: up my side. Some people I don't think are capable.

977
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 2: You know. I used to say to to my son's

978
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 2: I say, she puts her head to the pillow. Does

979
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 2: she really believe those things? Because she would accuse me

980
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 2: of these things like a lot of women are doing.

981
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 2: This is very sad. Whether they work the court system

982
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 2: and they don't get punished for bringing up false things,

983
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 2: they do not get punished whatsoever. And that stuff sticks

984
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 2: to a guy when you hear the stuff that she

985
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 2: would say about me costs me like a million dollars

986
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,040
Speaker 2: to prove my innocence. That would have gone to my children.

987
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 2: That's all everything I do ever do in life, call

988
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:48,879
Speaker 2: goes to kids, my kids, and that yet wives are

989
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,280
Speaker 2: preventing that from taking place because they take it through

990
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 2: in this revenge system that we're in, in the family

991
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:57,879
Speaker 2: court system. It's not built for the man because we're

992
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 2: still paying for the you know, for the nineteen fifties

993
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:05,279
Speaker 2: fathers said get my slippers, bitch of co'se. Still they

994
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 2: think that we're still that guy. Yeah, and so if

995
00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 2: you get something attached to you, your bully, abuse her

996
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,879
Speaker 2: and oh it's done. You know, that's it. I believe her.

997
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 2: It is literally a statement you'll hear out there. Well,

998
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 2: it's a bad situation to be in. So I can

999
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 2: only bring my kids who I truly am. So if

1000
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 2: you say I the one, I definitely don't speak to

1001
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 2: the other one. She joined a cult, and so.

1002
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:35,879
Speaker 1: Are you serious when you say that, like, oh yeah, yeah,

1003
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 1: a literal cult.

1004
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 2: She was literally just completely brainwashed. My kids say it too,

1005
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 2: they spoke to the police about it. Yeah, she's completely

1006
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 2: enamored with this cult leader. This woman, she just follows

1007
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 2: everything that she does. She has a podcast. It's just

1008
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 2: it's really it's heartbreaking though, to see somebody with this

1009
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:57,439
Speaker 2: kind of you know, it's mental health, which again that's

1010
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 2: what I'm helping people with his mental health. Her mental

1011
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 2: health is so far compromised by giving all of her

1012
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 2: power over to somebody where I'm saying, you have the

1013
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:09,880
Speaker 2: power within you. It tap into that potency, that potency

1014
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 2: which is filled with joy and laughter, happiness, gratitude, grace.

1015
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 2: That's who we really are. And she went down this

1016
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 2: other path of greed and selfishness and you know, blew

1017
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 2: the whole family up for no reason. But in that case,

1018
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 2: there's a much better chance because first we have two

1019
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 2: young children. It was really close. And during the fires,

1020
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 2: again my highest source and highest good, we evacuated. I

1021
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 2: invited her to the beach house that I rented, and

1022
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 2: she moved into the beach house. So there we were,

1023
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 2: you know, still divorced and still you know, in alleged battle,

1024
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 2: and we walk in the beach together and laughing and

1025
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 2: going on dunes and cartwheels and making fun of me.

1026
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 2: Of course, that's always.

1027
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:58,720
Speaker 1: Part of a that's part.

1028
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 2: Always as Dad's always the brunt of the joke. It's

1029
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 2: great about comedies. I can think of reverse that on

1030
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 2: a stage with a microphone. But it was really beautiful

1031
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 2: and in the moment, not to say it stayed, you

1032
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 2: know there's But that's where I'm going to keep returning to.

1033
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 2: I'm going to keep returning to that true essence that

1034
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 2: I really am. My true seventh sense is my sense

1035
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 2: of humor. I'm going to keep returning to it. And

1036
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 2: with sense of humor comes love and light. And that's

1037
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 2: that's where I hope that we could all get to obvious.

1038
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,760
Speaker 2: All is never going to happen, but more people if

1039
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 2: we do follow this indoctrination, if you will, we're indoctrinated

1040
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 2: to be in fear. Why not be indoctrinated to look

1041
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 2: for more joy, look for more laughter, keep your laugh bit,

1042
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 2: pay attention to whoa look at how many times I

1043
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:50,399
Speaker 2: laugh today. I guarantee you're gonna feel better, right.

1044
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:53,439
Speaker 1: I think that we need to call Apple immediately after

1045
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 1: this call and pitch them on the idea, because I

1046
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: think that is genius. I also think that you're genius

1047
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 1: because of what you're doing with your craft, because it

1048
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 1: helps so many people. And the question I have for

1049
00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:09,320
Speaker 1: you is you know, you're giving of yourself and people

1050
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 1: want to get what you're giving and have it work.

1051
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: And I've had so many people tell me through my

1052
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: life when when I would say to them, you know,

1053
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 1: happiness is a choice, and you have to force yourself

1054
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 1: and teach yourself. You have to learn behavior. And if

1055
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 1: you learn a different behavior and you've been doing it

1056
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 1: for so long, yeah it's hard, but you can't. The

1057
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,280
Speaker 1: old saying people don't change is I think it's bullshit.

1058
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: I think people agree with you hard on something.

1059
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:40,200
Speaker 2: And here we can hang out more. For God's sake,

1060
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 2: we need to hang out more. You're in complete alignment. Actually,

1061
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,280
Speaker 2: one of my books is called Get Out of Line

1062
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 2: and Into Alignment.

1063
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: Well, that's a chiropractor, you know.

1064
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 2: This is alignment with your true self. You're out of

1065
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 2: these people's lines, right, And that's so important. Even the

1066
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 2: topics of your podcast, it's out of line. That's I'm

1067
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 2: not in line with them telling you to pop a

1068
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 2: drug for your answer, right, or eat something bad for you.

1069
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,439
Speaker 2: That's you're in alignment with yourself, your true self, which

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Speaker 2: is probably why you still look twenty two years old

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Speaker 2: and you're not twenty two anymore, I know it. I

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Speaker 2: googled Craig.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for being on Comedy Save Me, and

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Speaker 1: thank you for the joy of laughter and the therapy

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Speaker 1: that you continue to spread and give everyone. Because I

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Speaker 1: think you should be a doctor of laughter.

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Speaker 2: Life has changed, but you and I haven't. Can't wait

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Speaker 2: to hang with you when I come back east. There

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Speaker 2: you come out west, all right, Greig.

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Speaker 1: Thank you