WEBVTT - Chaos with Greg Grippo

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<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, and welcome back to another episode of Casual Chaos.

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<v Speaker 1>This week, we have a very exciting guest, Greg Grippo.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Casual Chaos.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so excited to be here. Thank for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, no problem. You are a hot commodity in Bachelor Nation.

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<v Speaker 1>My friends were freaking out when they heard I was

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<v Speaker 1>having you on.

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<v Speaker 2>My Is that right? That's sweet of though.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, they were freaking out.

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<v Speaker 3>It's honestly weird for me to even think about that

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<v Speaker 3>because it's been so long at this point, and it

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<v Speaker 3>was just a short stint in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So, but I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>So from the Bachelor at your life has changed.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it definitely has.

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<v Speaker 1>Everyone fell in love with you on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>And everyone hated me for a little bit too.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so you got the love and the hate. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean that's normal in any scenario.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Before I get into talking about Katie or anything, I

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<v Speaker 1>also just want to say setting my thoughts in prayers.

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<v Speaker 1>I know she's battling breast cancer right now, So before

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<v Speaker 1>I talk about anything, you reach out to her at

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<v Speaker 1>all or anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I sent her a message, Yeah, just sending her of

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<v Speaker 3>my best wishes, you know. I mean, that's terrible, but

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<v Speaker 3>she's a tough cookie. I believe in her, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I really am praying for and hope she gets through it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you were twenty seven when you were on Katie

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<v Speaker 1>season of The Bacherrette. I was were you ready for marriage?

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<v Speaker 2>Was I twenty seven or was I twenty six? And

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<v Speaker 2>I turned twenty seven when it aired. I was twenty seven. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I was twenty seven. Was I ready for marriage?

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<v Speaker 1>You know?

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<v Speaker 2>I think that looking at your life now, yeah, looking at.

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<v Speaker 3>Your life now, Like looking back, I definitely don't think

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<v Speaker 3>I was ready. But in the moment, you're like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I can do this. Yeah, I can definitely be ready

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<v Speaker 3>if it's the right one. And I truly believed that

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<v Speaker 3>at the time. But I mean, look, that's why you

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<v Speaker 3>went on there exactly. But looking back on it now,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, there's no shot that I was ready. I

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<v Speaker 3>also wasn't in like a mental state, like it was

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<v Speaker 3>too soon in my opinion, after my dad passed to

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<v Speaker 3>get into something like that, and like I just didn't

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<v Speaker 3>have the capacity.

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<v Speaker 2>Even like see that or understand that at that time.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so sorry.

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<v Speaker 3>It's okay, it's all right. I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>So do you feel like it was almost impulse in

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<v Speaker 1>a way or trying to deal with grieve in different

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<v Speaker 1>types of way.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's tough. I mean I think that I was.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean the show called me for a few seasons

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<v Speaker 3>prior to that, and I kept on turning them down,

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<v Speaker 3>and then eventually I was in a spot and I

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<v Speaker 3>think that I was just like looking for that new

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<v Speaker 3>chapter in my life to kind of just you know,

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<v Speaker 3>open up for myself and try something new.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I did that, but like looking back on I remember

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<v Speaker 3>watching and I'm like, oh my god, this wasn't right

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<v Speaker 3>for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, looking back on yourself on TV sometimes it's brutal.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so hard brutal. No, it's brutal.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so brutal, Like the cringiest moment.

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<v Speaker 3>I had so many cringe moments on that show. Oh

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<v Speaker 3>my god. Now my friends don't let me live down.

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly.

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<v Speaker 3>They'll always like send like a weird clip that they

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<v Speaker 3>have like screen recorded, and I'm just like, oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course. I mean I've I've been on TV since

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<v Speaker 1>I was eight.

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<v Speaker 2>Eight yearyears old. Yeah, holy, you're like a Kardashian.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I guess different levels.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, realm. I didn't know this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, my mom's been on the Real house I

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<v Speaker 1>was in New Jersey since I was eight.

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<v Speaker 2>Damn.

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<v Speaker 1>She's been like in the Bravo world for eighteen years.

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<v Speaker 2>That's crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>Obviously, you know, growing up in Jersey, I knew what

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<v Speaker 3>Real Housewives in New Jersey was, but I just never

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<v Speaker 3>really watched TV growing up.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's crazy. Eight years old even in this for

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<v Speaker 2>a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>It was no. It was nuts. Yeah, But as a

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<v Speaker 1>little kid, as a girly girl, it was no big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted a movie star. I saw the cameras, I

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<v Speaker 1>thought everything was so much fun. But then I did

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<v Speaker 1>my waking Up in the Morning song when I was

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<v Speaker 1>like nine years old, and that have ever heard that?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think so you definitely have if you're on

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<v Speaker 2>TikTok really.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay during COVID, do you remember that sound where the

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<v Speaker 1>kid sounds like she's crying, saying waking up in the morning,

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about.

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<v Speaker 2>Waking up in the morning, that was you shut up? Wait,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 3>Me and all my friends always say that to one another,

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<v Speaker 3>like if something.

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<v Speaker 2>Goes that's you. Oh no, oh my gosh, that's me.

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<v Speaker 2>That was you.

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<v Speaker 1>That was totally me. Oh my, So imagine COVID We're

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<v Speaker 1>all on lockdown and I'm scrolling through chaos.

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<v Speaker 2>Four years ago. Also you looked like a toddler.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah I wasn't That wasn't me four years ago?

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<v Speaker 2>You were twenty years or oh, that wasn't you four

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<v Speaker 2>years ago? Oh okay, okay. I was about to say,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my goodness.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh it was like eight or nine, gotcha. And but

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<v Speaker 1>four years ago is when it popped off out of nowhere.

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<v Speaker 1>So in my brain, I'm like, I sang.

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<v Speaker 3>That that's so great though, that's iconic.

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<v Speaker 2>Though, good for you as iconic.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, now I look at it as iconic. I own it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a part of me. That's it. But when I

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<v Speaker 1>was sitting there four years ago and I'm scrolling and

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<v Speaker 1>every other video is another like a list celebrity using

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<v Speaker 1>my sound, yeah, I was like, this isn't happening. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I was like living in like some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of a dream.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's like some black mirror.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, wow, And when did I ever?

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<v Speaker 1>Like I would have never thought in a million years

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<v Speaker 1>that that would have came out. Now I love that

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<v Speaker 1>blessing in disguise.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess can you say it right now? Waking up

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<v Speaker 2>in the.

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<v Speaker 1>Moment, waking up in the morning, thinking about so many things.

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<v Speaker 2>I just wish life can get better.

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<v Speaker 1>I try to try to get rid of them, but

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<v Speaker 1>nothing seems to say the same. Wow, wow, thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>no problem, that's your entertainment for this podcast. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so we've all had our cringe moments for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh I wish I had that one, But I appreciate

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<v Speaker 3>you telling me that it's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope that made you feel better. Yeah. So then,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I guess you and Katie kind of did

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<v Speaker 1>it on some bad terms when the Batchelor ended.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean that that part of it was sad

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<v Speaker 3>because we yeah, we just left on not the greatest

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<v Speaker 3>of terms. But I mean we hashed it out fairly

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<v Speaker 3>quickly after the show. She reached out and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we made amends right away, and I mean it was

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<v Speaker 3>squashed after that. But yeah, in the midst of it all,

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<v Speaker 3>I wish I handled things differently. Looking back on it all, do.

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<v Speaker 1>You wish you stayed after you said I love you?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I I was in the airport right after

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<v Speaker 3>I said it, and I remember I was really regretful

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<v Speaker 3>of leaving, and like, I don't think I under I

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<v Speaker 3>kind of almost attempted to.

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<v Speaker 2>I was.

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<v Speaker 3>I was texting producers non stop, you know, trying to

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<v Speaker 3>go back and trying to see if you know, she

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<v Speaker 3>was engaged not. But I didn't get any reply, and

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<v Speaker 3>like I realized at that time, I was like, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what, this maybe wasn't the right setting for me

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<v Speaker 3>to be in this point in time, and I just

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<v Speaker 3>try to move on.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, do you think the environment of the show played

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<v Speaker 1>into just a lot of your emotions heightened situations?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you know, I think that if you're going through something,

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<v Speaker 3>especially in your own life, I mean, going on that

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<v Speaker 3>show is not a good idea. I mean, You're you're

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<v Speaker 3>going to be put putt in a tough environment where

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you're not going to be able to get

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<v Speaker 3>seven eight hours of sleep, nine hours of sleep maybe sometimes,

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<v Speaker 3>and you're going to be running on like three to four,

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<v Speaker 3>and your emotions are going to be heightened, and and uh,

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<v Speaker 3>it's gonna be you know, wine involved, and you're not

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<v Speaker 3>going to really see the best version of yourself sometimes. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, being being there in a good foundation

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<v Speaker 3>I think is the only move really.

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<v Speaker 1>So then after the season ended, I mean, looking back now,

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<v Speaker 1>you realize that that was probably the best decision for yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>How did you handle all the backlash because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you were feeling regretful for leaving then. Obviously the Bachelor

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<v Speaker 1>Nation fans are very intense. Yeah they are, so how

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<v Speaker 1>did you cope with that?

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<v Speaker 3>I think I just felt very misunderstood a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>the time, and directly after, you know, there was just

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<v Speaker 3>like all these things about like I was putting on

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<v Speaker 3>an act and stuff, and.

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<v Speaker 2>It was scary.

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<v Speaker 3>I was embarrassed, truthfully, So I really didn't want to

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<v Speaker 3>leave the house that often. I mean I would with like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, my best friends, my family and stuff, but

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<v Speaker 3>I would just keep a close knit circle, truthfully. And

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<v Speaker 3>I just tried to move on, I really did. I

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<v Speaker 3>just try to put it in the back of me

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<v Speaker 3>and just, yeah, move forward.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was tough.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's all you can do with anything that

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<v Speaker 1>happens that sucks. That's the worst part. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>Bachelor Nation fans, Bravo fans, I feel whenever you're on

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<v Speaker 1>such as a reality TV show. Yeah, the fans are

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<v Speaker 1>very intense. Yeah, and they have they have a big opinion.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for sure. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like every rally show, there's so many of

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<v Speaker 3>them nowadays, but I feel like everyone has like the

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<v Speaker 3>Ride or Die fan base at this point, So you

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<v Speaker 3>just gotta be ready ready.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that whatever one you're in here?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? No, for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Did they reach out to you to be the Bachelor?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they did it, just it wasn't the right timing. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 3>it was directly after my season, so.

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<v Speaker 1>You were just dealing with a lot of back lives.

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<v Speaker 3>I was, and it just I was I was straight

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<v Speaker 3>up with them. I was like, guys, I'm not too

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<v Speaker 3>ready for this, and we just you know, parted ways

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<v Speaker 3>on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and they never reached out to you ever like

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<v Speaker 1>since then. No, No, you would be a great contender.

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<v Speaker 2>A contender for the Bachelor.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you do it now or you feel like that's

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<v Speaker 1>so behind you now?

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<v Speaker 2>Be the Bachelor?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean I envisioned myself and like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>hopefully after my parents being the role models they were

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<v Speaker 3>and their marriage, I really, you know, would like it.

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<v Speaker 3>And I understand that there are real love stories that

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<v Speaker 3>come out of the show. I just uh, I think

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<v Speaker 3>I would have anxiety truthfully about you know, for instance,

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes people don't know who they're going on for. I

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<v Speaker 3>think that would be one thing that I would want

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<v Speaker 3>to happen, is that they don't usually like tell people

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<v Speaker 3>beforehand who it's going to be, and so I would

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<v Speaker 3>want them to know prior. You know, if like people

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<v Speaker 3>are going to on the on the show to get engaged,

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<v Speaker 3>I would want them to know who they're going on for.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I think people being like one hundred percent

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<v Speaker 3>in for you is just I think that.

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<v Speaker 2>Would create more success also for the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that's actually a good point. Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>because it kind of is like love is blind in

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<v Speaker 1>a way, in a way that show you're going and

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<v Speaker 1>blind and then I mean you're figuring out if you

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<v Speaker 1>have a connection or not. But I mean, please, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like if anyone heard Grippo is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>the Bachelor, you would have a line out the door.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a nice thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So since then do you kind of just want to

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<v Speaker 1>want it to happen the organic way?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean yeah, I uh, I haven't really counted out

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<v Speaker 3>anything in life said you know, if something happened organically,

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<v Speaker 3>I would do that. I never really wanted to ever

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<v Speaker 3>say like point blank no, I would never do like

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<v Speaker 3>another show, but you know, I have faith in myself

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<v Speaker 3>that it's gonna happen, just more organically for me probably.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, speaking of anxiety and everything like that,

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<v Speaker 1>when you are on a reality TV show, it puts

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of pressure on yourself absolutely, and then like

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<v Speaker 1>you you already dealt with the backlash of the fan,

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<v Speaker 1>so to really put yourself in that position again, like

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<v Speaker 1>you said, it would definitely give you anxiety, anyone anxiety.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, without a doubt.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And I mean you know that you can only

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<v Speaker 3>show so much of one per it also depends what

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<v Speaker 3>they use. That's true too, So like I think that was,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the one thing for me. And maybe it

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<v Speaker 3>was a time of life that I was in where

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<v Speaker 3>I just maybe looked perpetually sad throughout the day. But

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<v Speaker 3>I have such like I I guess my face looks

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<v Speaker 3>sad when it settles, and so everyone always like if

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<v Speaker 3>I'm at a bar, at a party or something, people like,

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<v Speaker 3>what's wrong. And it's always happened to me ever since

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<v Speaker 3>high school.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I have a resting bitch face.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so yeah, yeah, you understand.

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<v Speaker 3>So I mean that happened on the show and then

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<v Speaker 3>I just looked sad, and then I just got labeled

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<v Speaker 3>as like a very sad, sad man, which like I

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<v Speaker 3>wouldn't want to happen again if like, yeah, say I

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<v Speaker 3>would ever do that?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, and you have to be on especially if

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<v Speaker 1>you were the Beast.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, clicking clicking, would.

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<v Speaker 1>You ever do Paradise or any of those other shows?

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<v Speaker 1>Or you feel like that's just not.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, I'm going this year. Oh no, I'm just joking. No,

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't even call them. I know, they didn't call me.

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<v Speaker 3>No, honestly, if they called me, I was really truthfully

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<v Speaker 3>on the fence about it if I were to go

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<v Speaker 3>or not. But no, I mean they didn't call and

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<v Speaker 3>kind of made my decision for me. So I mean

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<v Speaker 3>I'm fine with that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>I kind of wanted to just move on to this

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<v Speaker 3>next stage of my life for good and it feels good.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm comfortable with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, you're living your life. You are really

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<v Speaker 1>big into influencing. Now I need to go on your TikTok.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel people tell me you're hilarious.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, you know, I think I think it

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<v Speaker 3>hits like a certain crowd, Like I appreciate that people

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<v Speaker 3>laugh at my stuff sometimes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, I mean it's better for people to laugh

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<v Speaker 1>at you than to people think that you're funny rather

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<v Speaker 1>than people think you're cringe.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean come on. Sometimes there's those guys that

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<v Speaker 1>do tiktoks and I'm like, what are you doing? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to a certain point. It's tough out here. Tough,

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<v Speaker 1>it's stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I cringe myself out sometimes, and like, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I won't post that much maybe like I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>once every week and a half two weeks, yeah, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's usually just like very in the moment for me

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<v Speaker 3>with like something with like my friends or like I

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<v Speaker 3>just I just got gifted a lounge set in Napa

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<v Speaker 3>and it was it was a woman's and I put

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<v Speaker 3>it on just a little.

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<v Speaker 2>Dancing dance to it. You're a dancer, I mean I can.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think I'm too good, but I think it's

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<v Speaker 3>your confidence when you're dancing. You know, if you believe

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<v Speaker 3>you're good, then I think other people will be like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh he's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're right. I need to work on that. I

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<v Speaker 1>work on my confidence while dancing. Not that confident.

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<v Speaker 3>Just let it coach, just let it rip. Have like

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<v Speaker 3>two glasses of wine. Next thing you know, you're saucaying.

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<v Speaker 1>I need to build that confident my dancing skills. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna I'm oh my god, I just got done

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<v Speaker 1>to this. Said, I'm gonna be in a wedding in

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<v Speaker 1>Italy this May, and I'm walking out with obviously one

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<v Speaker 1>of the groom's men, and we have to do this

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<v Speaker 1>whole dance.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, oh, that's my least favorite part.

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<v Speaker 2>You better, that's my least.

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<v Speaker 1>Favorite choreographed the dance, Brandon, because I have no idea

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm doing, and I'm really nervous about this.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually, I hate when they like announce people and like

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<v Speaker 3>you gotta do dance. I think I think that's like

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<v Speaker 3>my biggest nightmare. It's like almost the same as being

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<v Speaker 3>in a in a class and like waiting for your

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<v Speaker 3>turn to like say your names, and I would just

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<v Speaker 3>stutter all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what to say.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm very nervous for this. He goes, as long

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<v Speaker 1>as you know how to do the cotton eye, Joe,

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<v Speaker 1>I go, we are not doing the cotton eye.

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<v Speaker 2>Joe, Hey, that's funky.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, this is crazy. And then we had

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<v Speaker 1>to pick a song. I was like, oh, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even know the song that he picked. Oh really, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>listening to it. I'm repeating my card.

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<v Speaker 2>Now are you really You're just like, oh, shit, shit, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the biggest thing to know is that like

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<v Speaker 3>people don't care, you know, like we I think trick

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<v Speaker 3>ourselves to be like, oh, this is the biggest thing

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<v Speaker 3>for everyone, Like they're gonna think like I'm the weirdest

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<v Speaker 3>person in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>People don't give a shit. They're just like, all right,

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<v Speaker 2>what's next?

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<v Speaker 1>Ye're right, And honestly, it blows over the next day.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know absolutely.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think anybody will be going to bed and

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<v Speaker 3>being like, did you see Gias danced Cotton Eye Joe?

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm around my family. I need to like calm

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<v Speaker 1>the nerves a little. But then again, myself, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to have the best dance. Yeah, so it's like a

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<v Speaker 1>weird thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I think.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, So, you also dated somebody else that was

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<v Speaker 1>in Bachelor Nation, Victoria Fuller, and that relationship ended. How

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<v Speaker 1>did that end? Are you guys on good terms?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean anytime with a breakup, you know, it's tough,

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<v Speaker 3>no matter how it ends, to be honest with you.

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<v Speaker 2>But she's great. I really think the world of her.

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<v Speaker 3>I know that she's probably killing I mean I don't

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<v Speaker 3>look at her stuff, but she's probably killing it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'll always wish the best best for no matter what.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, did you guys connect just because of like bachelor

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like that?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, pretty much. We met at a concert a while back.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like directly after the show, our first time

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<v Speaker 3>like meeting one another.

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<v Speaker 2>That was like our first time meeting.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like very you know quick, and then we

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<v Speaker 3>just had mutual friends later on that we like hung

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<v Speaker 3>out with from time time.

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<v Speaker 1>So how were you right now? How many years ago

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<v Speaker 1>were you on the Bachelorette?

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm thirty one and.

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<v Speaker 3>It was on geez, I think it was twenty twenty one,

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<v Speaker 3>So it's been a little over four years. Like I

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<v Speaker 3>this is this is April, So I was still there

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<v Speaker 3>actually four years ago.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, it's a big change in your life. Yeah, this

0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:47.600
<v Speaker 1>is a very big divot. Yeah, but now, okay, looking

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<v Speaker 1>back on it four years later, are you dating anyone now?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you? You know?

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<v Speaker 2>I just went on a date recently. Yeah she was

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<v Speaker 2>stunning beautiful. Yeah, I know, she really was, and she's

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<v Speaker 2>she was really great.

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<v Speaker 3>So I mean, I'm really just all I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 3>do is just like be careful in my life because

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<v Speaker 3>I just like want to date with intention truthfully, and

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I feel ready for the next phase, and

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<v Speaker 3>I truly do feel ready to be in a relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>So I guess we'll see how it goes.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're ready for marriage, but you don't also want

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<v Speaker 1>it if you're going to slow down?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I mean I want to get married. I mean

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<v Speaker 3>I have nine nieces and nephews at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>How many brothers?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm the youngest of four, so two sisters, one brother.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm one of four.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh are you really? Are you the youngest?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the oldest.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, oh wow? Okay, cool, so.

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<v Speaker 1>Younger than me?

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<v Speaker 2>Cool? All right? Got you?

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<v Speaker 1>So there's two and two. Yeah, yeah for you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>two girls, two boys is the same for you?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>All girls?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh shit?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's cute. Though. I like the two and two.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just not having four kids, but I love the

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<v Speaker 1>two and two.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's been a great dynamic, and I mean, man,

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<v Speaker 3>I just feel more ready for it. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 3>want to buy a house soon and like get a

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<v Speaker 3>talk eventually move in with someone. Like I don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to put myself on any strict timeline.

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<v Speaker 2>But I really hate going out nowadays. I just I

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<v Speaker 2>don't enjoy it.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have a good time unless like I'm sitting

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<v Speaker 3>in like you know, booth and chilling with my friends

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<v Speaker 3>and just like talking to people who I love, then

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<v Speaker 3>I'll enjoy it. But like, I don't like to go

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<v Speaker 3>out with like, you know, one or two people and

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<v Speaker 3>then we're just like standing there, like looking around and

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<v Speaker 3>like almost being like, oh, yeah, she's cute.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. I'm just not into it anymore. Yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>really not.

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<v Speaker 1>So then would that like, are you interested in dating apps? Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't been on one since before the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, yeah, so you are really on this happen

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<v Speaker 1>organic train. I do not think you're into any of

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<v Speaker 1>this anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean Instagram is technically like dating app nowadays when

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<v Speaker 3>you think about it, No, you don't think so.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess. So would you ever date someone that's let

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<v Speaker 1>into your d MS? I feel like that's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>different than a dating app?

0:20:05.240 --> 0:20:06.600
<v Speaker 2>Because I feel like it's more personal.

0:20:06.840 --> 0:20:10.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like they're genuinely reaching out to you to see

0:20:10.000 --> 0:20:14.240
<v Speaker 1>your interest. So it's almost like a girl wanting to

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<v Speaker 1>be one of your contestants on the batch.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh shit, I never thought about it like that.

0:20:19.680 --> 0:20:24.240
<v Speaker 3>But I mean, I I think it's always easier to

0:20:24.240 --> 0:20:29.080
<v Speaker 3>meet organically. I think that it's tough now, like, you know,

0:20:30.480 --> 0:20:34.520
<v Speaker 3>especially like talking beforehand on a date, Like I enjoy

0:20:35.160 --> 0:20:37.840
<v Speaker 3>meeting someone in person and like seeing how the vibes

0:20:37.880 --> 0:20:41.000
<v Speaker 3>are right out the gate and just kind of cutting

0:20:41.000 --> 0:20:44.080
<v Speaker 3>the bullshit, you know, and just you know, planning the

0:20:44.160 --> 0:20:46.800
<v Speaker 3>date on Instagram and then oh, should we do dinner?

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<v Speaker 2>And it's just like then we sit down.

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<v Speaker 1>It is still kind of a blind date.

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<v Speaker 2>Then we yeah, it kind of is.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and then we sit down to dinner and just

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<v Speaker 3>like the vibes are totally off and then we're both

0:20:54.680 --> 0:20:56.400
<v Speaker 3>kind of sitting there like feeling bad for one another,

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<v Speaker 3>and we just.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we're gonna get feeling in the world. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I've never been in that scenario.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not great.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why I've kind of been reluctant to go out

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<v Speaker 3>for like the last a little over a year now

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<v Speaker 3>at this point, haven't been on too many dates.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, this one just went well.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, we had some chicken fingers, French fries and

0:21:18.280 --> 0:21:20.879
<v Speaker 3>a sprite love that yeah, and some wine.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah perfect.

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<v Speaker 1>Well happy for you, that's awesome, thank you. I mean,

0:21:25.720 --> 0:21:28.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, when you're happy with yourself and then once

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<v Speaker 1>you get your home and your dog, I feel like

0:21:30.280 --> 0:21:31.639
<v Speaker 1>everything will fall into place.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree.

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<v Speaker 3>I think when you're not looking, that's when it really

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<v Speaker 3>comes to you. Because I think I always put like

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<v Speaker 3>my weight into relationships, especially growing up. I think I

0:21:41.240 --> 0:21:44.199
<v Speaker 3>was always in a relationship ever since high school. So

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<v Speaker 3>you were a relationship person, yeah, truly, And even after

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<v Speaker 3>the show. Four months after the show, I started seeing

0:21:51.440 --> 0:21:54.959
<v Speaker 3>someone and then that ended, and then you know, four

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<v Speaker 3>or five months later I got into another relationship, and then,

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<v Speaker 3>like I think, looking back on it, I really never

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<v Speaker 3>took time off, like after the passing of my dad,

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<v Speaker 3>which I really struggled with. I think that I just

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<v Speaker 3>like I think I needed to figure out like my

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<v Speaker 3>own dynamic, like with my family, in my own life,

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<v Speaker 3>in my own grief before really like putting in all

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<v Speaker 3>my you know, effort and being able to put all

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<v Speaker 3>my effort into relationship because my mind.

0:22:22.560 --> 0:22:24.480
<v Speaker 2>I feel like, which is like everywhere for so long.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I feel like that's such a valid point.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've even dealt with things in my life and

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<v Speaker 1>you really have to heal by yourself, yeah, to move on.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I feel how you said, you've always

0:22:39.680 --> 0:22:43.560
<v Speaker 1>been in a relationship. You needed someone to lean on.

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<v Speaker 1>You were looking for a person to just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>make you feel good, help you get through things. But

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<v Speaker 1>as much as that helps, it doesn't solve what you're

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<v Speaker 1>really feeling inside. It's kind of almost like a band aid,

0:22:55.240 --> 0:22:55.840
<v Speaker 1>it really is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. And then so it was scary for me to

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<v Speaker 2>be a.

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<v Speaker 3>Like for I don't know this last year, but I

0:23:04.280 --> 0:23:07.800
<v Speaker 3>mean it shouldn't shouldn't have been. But I like six

0:23:07.840 --> 0:23:10.040
<v Speaker 3>months in, I was like, wow, thank goodness, I'm doing

0:23:10.040 --> 0:23:11.840
<v Speaker 3>this right now. And I really wasn't dating at all,

0:23:12.160 --> 0:23:18.320
<v Speaker 3>like for like the first six or seven months.

0:23:22.080 --> 0:23:26.520
<v Speaker 1>How do you think Greg is different than from Bachelor

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<v Speaker 1>at Greg to now?

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<v Speaker 2>I was so anxiety driven.

0:23:33.040 --> 0:23:36.160
<v Speaker 3>I was so scared for my life and in terms

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<v Speaker 3>of like what direction I was going to lead into.

0:23:38.680 --> 0:23:43.760
<v Speaker 3>I truly like, especially after basketball. I played basketball my

0:23:43.800 --> 0:23:44.680
<v Speaker 3>whole entire life.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you were telling me you were pretty good.

0:23:47.400 --> 0:23:47.919
<v Speaker 2>I was all right.

0:23:47.960 --> 0:23:51.800
<v Speaker 3>I was decent, yeah, And you know, I put in

0:23:51.880 --> 0:23:54.400
<v Speaker 3>all my time and effort ever since I was seven

0:23:54.440 --> 0:23:57.680
<v Speaker 3>eight years old into this one thing out of college.

0:23:57.840 --> 0:23:59.479
<v Speaker 3>I truly had no idea what I wanted to do

0:23:59.520 --> 0:24:03.719
<v Speaker 3>with my life, and so I had many many jobs,

0:24:03.800 --> 0:24:05.560
<v Speaker 3>different side jobs, side gigs.

0:24:06.520 --> 0:24:07.040
<v Speaker 2>I mean it was.

0:24:07.000 --> 0:24:10.160
<v Speaker 3>Tough too, Like ubering was is not for the week

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<v Speaker 3>of heart sometimes, especially if, like you know, your ego

0:24:14.359 --> 0:24:17.400
<v Speaker 3>is fragile in a way too. I remember I picked

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<v Speaker 3>up like this girl who I went on a date

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<v Speaker 3>with prior, and like I couldn't have been more embarrassed.

0:24:22.560 --> 0:24:24.600
<v Speaker 3>I just like felt like ashamed of the point where

0:24:24.640 --> 0:24:27.960
<v Speaker 3>at which I shouldn't have been. You know, obviously, you know,

0:24:27.960 --> 0:24:29.919
<v Speaker 3>people make their own living, but like my ego was

0:24:29.960 --> 0:24:32.560
<v Speaker 3>so fragile, and like I was just an insecure person

0:24:32.760 --> 0:24:34.159
<v Speaker 3>at the time, and I really didn't know where I

0:24:34.200 --> 0:24:37.080
<v Speaker 3>wanted to go in life, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I just like really struggled with that.

0:24:40.200 --> 0:24:45.480
<v Speaker 3>And I think I'm just more confident in myself and situations,

0:24:45.480 --> 0:24:47.639
<v Speaker 3>and like, you know, everyone has their own situation in life.

0:24:48.320 --> 0:24:51.000
<v Speaker 3>And I learned to gain you know, more trust in

0:24:51.040 --> 0:24:55.720
<v Speaker 3>myself as time went on and not putting so much

0:24:55.760 --> 0:24:58.760
<v Speaker 3>weight into other people's thoughts or feelings of me.

0:24:59.440 --> 0:25:01.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you need to. I feel like you need to

0:25:01.359 --> 0:25:02.240
<v Speaker 1>do like a ted talk.

0:25:02.520 --> 0:25:03.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh that's that's yeah.

0:25:03.640 --> 0:25:07.119
<v Speaker 1>Maybe maybe you're giving You're giving great advice to the people.

0:25:07.240 --> 0:25:08.919
<v Speaker 1>I'm like listening to you. I'm like, I need to

0:25:08.960 --> 0:25:12.000
<v Speaker 1>take some of this advice for myself too. At the

0:25:12.080 --> 0:25:14.159
<v Speaker 1>end of the day. It's true. I mean, you know,

0:25:14.440 --> 0:25:17.240
<v Speaker 1>you said, you know, when you were younger, you were

0:25:17.280 --> 0:25:19.360
<v Speaker 1>in a lot of relationships. Like you just said, now,

0:25:19.440 --> 0:25:22.119
<v Speaker 1>basketball was your passion. It was everything that you knew.

0:25:22.760 --> 0:25:25.000
<v Speaker 1>So at the same time of you going on The

0:25:25.040 --> 0:25:27.359
<v Speaker 1>Bachelor atte you were also trying to figure yourself out.

0:25:27.720 --> 0:25:31.159
<v Speaker 1>Things in your life weren't steady or consistent. So I

0:25:31.200 --> 0:25:33.879
<v Speaker 1>feel like maybe also you were trying to find that

0:25:33.920 --> 0:25:37.400
<v Speaker 1>consistency as well. But now you found it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm having a blast doing what I'm doing right now,

0:25:40.119 --> 0:25:42.920
<v Speaker 3>and I'm truly grateful for it no matter what. It's hard,

0:25:42.960 --> 0:25:46.320
<v Speaker 3>because you know, I feel like not so much nowadays,

0:25:46.359 --> 0:25:48.159
<v Speaker 3>but even like a year ago, you find yourself just

0:25:48.160 --> 0:25:51.840
<v Speaker 3>comparing yourself to other people online NonStop.

0:25:52.000 --> 0:25:54.280
<v Speaker 1>It's hard when you're in the world of it as

0:25:54.280 --> 0:25:57.760
<v Speaker 1>well too. Because you even just look at everything from

0:25:57.840 --> 0:26:02.639
<v Speaker 1>your perspective of success and also being a content creator. Yeah,

0:26:02.680 --> 0:26:06.800
<v Speaker 1>so you're comparing both, you know, both categories. Rather than

0:26:06.960 --> 0:26:10.679
<v Speaker 1>just as a viewer behind the phone, you're actually creating

0:26:10.680 --> 0:26:14.040
<v Speaker 1>the content and looking at everyone else's as well.

0:26:14.119 --> 0:26:14.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:26:14.600 --> 0:26:17.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's pretty much like the thief of happiness honestly,

0:26:18.000 --> 0:26:20.120
<v Speaker 3>as hard as it is sometimes because I mean I'll

0:26:20.119 --> 0:26:21.959
<v Speaker 3>have my moments still to this day where I'm just

0:26:22.000 --> 0:26:25.800
<v Speaker 3>like like this, like I don't want to do this

0:26:25.880 --> 0:26:27.000
<v Speaker 3>today or whatever.

0:26:26.800 --> 0:26:30.119
<v Speaker 1>And but now it's how we make a living.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And I try to say every single day, a

0:26:32.680 --> 0:26:34.959
<v Speaker 3>few times a day, like just in my head, like

0:26:35.280 --> 0:26:37.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm grateful. I have so much in life that I

0:26:37.080 --> 0:26:39.080
<v Speaker 3>could be grateful for because like it's not all about

0:26:39.080 --> 0:26:40.919
<v Speaker 3>money at the end of the day. Like I have

0:26:41.000 --> 0:26:43.320
<v Speaker 3>such a good family and like the best friends that

0:26:43.320 --> 0:26:46.239
<v Speaker 3>I could ever wish for my entire life, and like

0:26:46.280 --> 0:26:48.159
<v Speaker 3>that should be enough right now, no matter how I

0:26:48.200 --> 0:26:48.640
<v Speaker 3>make money.

0:26:48.960 --> 0:26:49.800
<v Speaker 1>Whose to that.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's do though, you know, Oh you're.

0:26:54.480 --> 0:26:56.840
<v Speaker 1>Right, I mean you have to just have your happiness

0:26:56.920 --> 0:26:58.919
<v Speaker 1>the people that I love and support around you.

0:26:59.280 --> 0:27:00.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And that's it.

0:27:00.960 --> 0:27:02.480
<v Speaker 1>I Mean, that's how I got through a bunch of

0:27:02.480 --> 0:27:05.000
<v Speaker 1>my tough time. So that's that's all you could ask for.

0:27:05.080 --> 0:27:05.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's important.

0:27:05.880 --> 0:27:09.120
<v Speaker 1>Have you had your friends for a while, yeah, since

0:27:09.160 --> 0:27:09.719
<v Speaker 1>high school?

0:27:09.840 --> 0:27:10.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:27:10.200 --> 0:27:14.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I feel like boys are so different than girls.

0:27:14.560 --> 0:27:17.040
<v Speaker 2>Really, what do you like gain new friends as time

0:27:17.119 --> 0:27:17.439
<v Speaker 2>goes on?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you saying, Okay, I have like my four or

0:27:21.640 --> 0:27:25.480
<v Speaker 1>five friends from high school, middle school that I'm still

0:27:25.520 --> 0:27:29.200
<v Speaker 1>friends with, but as I grew, I you know, need

0:27:29.320 --> 0:27:29.879
<v Speaker 1>more fronts.

0:27:29.920 --> 0:27:31.800
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, yeah, I mean I have my friends in high

0:27:31.800 --> 0:27:36.760
<v Speaker 3>school and then man, like my friends from college. Also,

0:27:37.560 --> 0:27:40.679
<v Speaker 3>we talk every day still, all of them, and like

0:27:41.560 --> 0:27:43.879
<v Speaker 3>eight out of the ten of them are engaged or

0:27:44.040 --> 0:27:46.760
<v Speaker 3>married or have kids at this point, and we still

0:27:46.840 --> 0:27:48.679
<v Speaker 3>keep up with one another, you know, like we hope

0:27:48.760 --> 0:27:51.040
<v Speaker 3>that one day we'll be able to take trips with

0:27:51.080 --> 0:27:53.640
<v Speaker 3>like our wives and kids one day and like have

0:27:53.720 --> 0:27:55.240
<v Speaker 3>like one yearly trip or something.

0:27:55.440 --> 0:27:56.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:27:56.160 --> 0:27:58.159
<v Speaker 3>But then I also have like, you know, best friends

0:27:58.200 --> 0:28:00.480
<v Speaker 3>from the show that I was on, like Andrew and

0:28:00.680 --> 0:28:02.919
<v Speaker 3>Justin and Trey, Like those guys are like brothers to

0:28:02.920 --> 0:28:03.560
<v Speaker 3>me at this point.

0:28:03.680 --> 0:28:05.679
<v Speaker 1>I guess I form more along the way. But I

0:28:05.680 --> 0:28:09.160
<v Speaker 1>feel like boys stick with their friends, like they don't

0:28:09.160 --> 0:28:13.720
<v Speaker 1>really have fallouts. Girls. Yeah, but It's like I feel

0:28:13.760 --> 0:28:17.679
<v Speaker 1>like friends drop easier for girls than they do for guys.

0:28:17.880 --> 0:28:20.679
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I would agree with that. I think that, or

0:28:20.800 --> 0:28:22.399
<v Speaker 3>maybe I don't know if I would agree with that. Actually,

0:28:22.400 --> 0:28:22.840
<v Speaker 3>I guess.

0:28:23.000 --> 0:28:26.199
<v Speaker 1>Your sisters, your sisters roll through friends.

0:28:26.320 --> 0:28:29.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, that's true. Yeah, I mean we have our

0:28:30.600 --> 0:28:33.800
<v Speaker 3>disagreement sometimes, but it always gets hashed out, usually in

0:28:33.840 --> 0:28:35.920
<v Speaker 3>like the same day, and we're always just like, let's

0:28:35.960 --> 0:28:36.719
<v Speaker 3>just forget about this.

0:28:36.880 --> 0:28:38.920
<v Speaker 2>We move on very very quickly.

0:28:39.080 --> 0:28:41.760
<v Speaker 1>That's how guys are. Yeah, even if like they're out,

0:28:41.800 --> 0:28:43.840
<v Speaker 1>they get into it in argument in an hour. You

0:28:43.880 --> 0:28:47.400
<v Speaker 1>guys are fine. Yeah, just so different. Have any celebrities

0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:50.040
<v Speaker 1>ever slid into your dms.

0:28:51.480 --> 0:28:52.520
<v Speaker 2>Like after the show? Yeah?

0:28:52.800 --> 0:28:57.040
<v Speaker 1>Oh really. I guess, like no cool celebrities ever thought

0:28:57.040 --> 0:29:00.840
<v Speaker 1>I was attractive. I've like never had a cool story.

0:29:01.520 --> 0:29:04.760
<v Speaker 3>Well, I think that's tough for you, like it, I

0:29:04.800 --> 0:29:07.320
<v Speaker 3>had a short stint, you know, mine was like three months.

0:29:07.360 --> 0:29:10.520
<v Speaker 3>You're you're you're a Kardashian right now, you know, so

0:29:11.560 --> 0:29:14.120
<v Speaker 3>like that's tough for I feel like that's tougher for you.

0:29:15.040 --> 0:29:17.240
<v Speaker 3>I think like for me, they're just like, oh I

0:29:17.360 --> 0:29:19.400
<v Speaker 3>vibe with this guy. They only see like these you

0:29:19.440 --> 0:29:23.160
<v Speaker 3>know six episodes of me right off the bat, I feel.

0:29:22.960 --> 0:29:24.959
<v Speaker 1>Like guys are again different though, I feel like they

0:29:24.960 --> 0:29:26.560
<v Speaker 1>get a lot of dms like I was. I had

0:29:26.600 --> 0:29:29.680
<v Speaker 1>Maria George's on my podcast not too long ago, and

0:29:29.720 --> 0:29:32.800
<v Speaker 1>she said the same thing after her Bachelor season with

0:29:32.920 --> 0:29:35.840
<v Speaker 1>Joey she never got any crazy dms.

0:29:35.520 --> 0:29:37.960
<v Speaker 2>Either, Oh please, she really yeah.

0:29:38.040 --> 0:29:39.640
<v Speaker 1>I said the same thing to her. I go, wait,

0:29:39.640 --> 0:29:42.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm very shocked, oh wow, and she goes, now, I swear,

0:29:43.040 --> 0:29:45.200
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, well, honestly, me, I'm.

0:29:45.120 --> 0:29:46.440
<v Speaker 2>Showing either I'm shocked.

0:29:46.520 --> 0:29:47.840
<v Speaker 1>I was shocked to I don't know.

0:29:47.880 --> 0:29:49.480
<v Speaker 2>Maybe it's different for guys on the show.

0:29:49.480 --> 0:29:52.960
<v Speaker 1>Then girls also, though, have more balls than guys.

0:29:53.120 --> 0:29:55.080
<v Speaker 3>I was going to say that I think so, yeah,

0:29:55.160 --> 0:29:58.480
<v Speaker 3>especially shooting a shot on a DM like it's it's

0:29:58.520 --> 0:30:02.280
<v Speaker 3>honestly very tough for me to Yeah, I don't know,

0:30:02.400 --> 0:30:05.160
<v Speaker 3>it's it's scary, you know this.

0:30:05.440 --> 0:30:08.600
<v Speaker 1>But even now, I also had this conversation with her too,

0:30:09.800 --> 0:30:14.880
<v Speaker 1>I feel like girls are more inclined now to go

0:30:15.080 --> 0:30:17.720
<v Speaker 1>up to guys and make the first move than guys

0:30:17.760 --> 0:30:18.520
<v Speaker 1>are to girls.

0:30:18.640 --> 0:30:21.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would agree with that. I would agree with that.

0:30:21.800 --> 0:30:24.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what's going on. Meanwhile, I'm so intrigued

0:30:24.760 --> 0:30:27.520
<v Speaker 1>to like that old school mentality of the guy going

0:30:27.600 --> 0:30:31.240
<v Speaker 1>up to the woman you know, asking for to take

0:30:31.240 --> 0:30:33.520
<v Speaker 1>you on a date, of course paying for the meal.

0:30:33.760 --> 0:30:37.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm so I love that old school mentality. And I'm like,

0:30:38.000 --> 0:30:39.640
<v Speaker 1>I feel bad for my friends that are in this

0:30:39.760 --> 0:30:40.320
<v Speaker 1>dating pool.

0:30:40.400 --> 0:30:43.680
<v Speaker 3>Are they not getting like their first date paid for? Like,

0:30:43.720 --> 0:30:45.120
<v Speaker 3>has it ever happened to any of your friends?

0:30:45.520 --> 0:30:46.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:30:46.120 --> 0:30:47.959
<v Speaker 2>Really that sucks.

0:30:49.280 --> 0:30:51.000
<v Speaker 1>I bet you were raised better than that.

0:30:51.880 --> 0:30:54.600
<v Speaker 3>I mean, no matter how the date goes, like, I

0:30:54.640 --> 0:30:58.440
<v Speaker 3>think that you know, it's important to at least extend

0:30:58.520 --> 0:31:03.840
<v Speaker 3>the offer, and uh, yeah, but it is. I will say,

0:31:03.960 --> 0:31:08.640
<v Speaker 3>it is tough to go into a bar and you know,

0:31:08.680 --> 0:31:09.480
<v Speaker 3>find the right words.

0:31:09.520 --> 0:31:12.040
<v Speaker 1>You've got to shoot your shot. You look beautiful tonight,

0:31:12.480 --> 0:31:13.800
<v Speaker 1>No girl is gonna get mad.

0:31:14.840 --> 0:31:17.640
<v Speaker 3>That could come off weird. Beautiful, That could come off weird.

0:31:17.640 --> 0:31:20.240
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes say you're in a club, you look beautiful tonight.

0:31:21.360 --> 0:31:26.080
<v Speaker 3>She turns and says, what the you know, it is

0:31:26.120 --> 0:31:28.520
<v Speaker 3>a compliment. I'm sure she would go home later and

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<v Speaker 3>be like, oh, that was really nice of that guy.

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<v Speaker 3>But in the time, you know, you gotta be a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit more mysterious.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree, Okay, I now I get what you're saying, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I agree, yeah. Sometimes, but also you could catch the

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<v Speaker 1>girl that's in a relationship and doesn't want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to you. I guess this is the whole thing about you.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes sometimes that yeah, I think it's just you know,

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<v Speaker 3>best to go up to her and say, I'm just

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<v Speaker 3>a guy coming up to a girl at a bar.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't say that that's horrible.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, they'll catch somebody off guard.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, somebody tried and say and see you and

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<v Speaker 3>tell me how it goes.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you should give it a chance. Everyone can

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<v Speaker 1>go into greg zmsough if you tried, Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>that's hilarious. So then, after all this relationship talk, what

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<v Speaker 1>are you really looking for in a partner?

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<v Speaker 3>I think with like the partnerships of what I see

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<v Speaker 3>in my circle, you know, there's always so many ups

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<v Speaker 3>and downs no matter what, whether it's your own personal

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<v Speaker 3>life goals that you.

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<v Speaker 2>Are or are not achieving right away.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that's just like that on going support

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<v Speaker 3>no matter what, That unwavering support is just moving forward.

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<v Speaker 3>Not to say I'd never had that in my relationships,

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<v Speaker 3>but I just want to make sure that it's like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the key factor I want to be able

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<v Speaker 3>to support someone with whatever they're doing or whatever they love,

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<v Speaker 3>and I hope they get the same in return.

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<v Speaker 1>You're right, feeling that support, that unconditional support will lead

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<v Speaker 1>you to, you know, feel confident in your relationship. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>not question anything that your partner is doing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and just like you know, love each other for

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<v Speaker 3>as much as you know, the positive things that we

0:33:24.960 --> 0:33:27.239
<v Speaker 3>bring out one another, as much as our flaws, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I think, no matter what.

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<v Speaker 1>But then you know, that whole thing about really working

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<v Speaker 1>on yourself and making sure that you're confident with yourself

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<v Speaker 1>before getting into a relationship, that all is key factors

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<v Speaker 1>because if you're insecure in yourself, you know, that can

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<v Speaker 1>lead to like paranoia in the relationship and feeling like

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<v Speaker 1>your partner is doing something to you that they aren't.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely and just a downward spiral.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, which is you know, I think that the best

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<v Speaker 3>thing is why I was single because I really needed

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<v Speaker 3>to honestly learn that myself too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, because I struggled with that.

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<v Speaker 1>What would you say your biggest red flag.

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<v Speaker 2>Is mmmm that I shake my stuff sometimes on TikTok.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I guess so honestly, honestly, like like when

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<v Speaker 3>you think about it, like it kind of is. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I have fun doing it and like I like laugh

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<v Speaker 3>and myself are laugh doing it sometimes. But I'm thinking

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<v Speaker 3>about it, I'm just like, oh, like I never had

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<v Speaker 3>TikTok during the show, and so like it was a

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<v Speaker 3>whole new world to me. But I mean I enjoy

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<v Speaker 3>being like that in relationships and like, you know, not.

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<v Speaker 1>For girls are gonna see what they're gonna get.

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<v Speaker 3>No, literally, honestly, that's that's gonna be honestly me we date, Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>No, but that's good. That's why I think people also

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<v Speaker 1>find you so funny because it's very authentic and real,

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<v Speaker 1>and the audience can tell and your content isn't authentic,

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<v Speaker 1>they can read right through it. Yeah, and it shows

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<v Speaker 1>you could tell, you know, some of your content does

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<v Speaker 1>better than others because they feel that this video was

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<v Speaker 1>more authentic. Okay, this one, I could tell that it

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<v Speaker 1>was a post or something like, you know, anything along

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<v Speaker 1>those lines.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that that was a tough thing for me

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<v Speaker 3>to understand, especially right after the show, because, like we

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<v Speaker 3>were saying before, you know, prior to show, I posted

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<v Speaker 3>on Instagram maybe once a year, twice a year, for

0:35:16.760 --> 0:35:19.160
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, a wedding or Christmas with my family.

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<v Speaker 3>And so after it and you know, gaining a following

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<v Speaker 3>from the show, I really didn't know what the hell

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<v Speaker 3>the post so here. I was just like trying to

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<v Speaker 3>be all cool. He was snapping like a selfie and

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, I'm like looking back and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh my god. I was just scared, you know, I

0:35:37.480 --> 0:35:40.400
<v Speaker 3>was really scared. And then at one point I was like,

0:35:41.000 --> 0:35:44.279
<v Speaker 3>screw it, just like post this weird ash. And I

0:35:44.320 --> 0:35:47.560
<v Speaker 3>mean people enjoyed it, which like I appreciate. I appreciate that,

0:35:47.640 --> 0:35:50.680
<v Speaker 3>like people enjoy that stuff. That side of me.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really nice.

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<v Speaker 1>People like to laugh on TikTok too. Some you know,

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<v Speaker 1>no one wants to always scroll and see beauty or food, right, Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>it's nice to laugh a lott it. But all right,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you Greg, thank you for such an amazing podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for having me, Thank you for being on

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<v Speaker 1>m m hmm.