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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, that's right, and the two happiest boys

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl again. I know. Please don't turn it off.

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Speaker 1: break it all down for you because we're gonna put

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Speaker 1: all of the homely stuff away, no home or nonsense,

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Speaker 1: none of that. It's gonna be just what we think

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Speaker 1: it happens to be with the Patriots winning the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: there's a reason behind these takes. So we're gonna get

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Speaker 1: into all of that here before we do. Andrew Erickson

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Speaker 1: certainly a game I think in the AFC where it

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Speaker 1: was managed very well, where in the second half, wearing

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Speaker 1: white jerseys in the snow with the wind whipping around,

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Speaker 1: it was let's not lose this game and let Jared

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Speaker 1: Stidam make some mistakes and that's what happened. It was

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Speaker 1: very conservative, but it was enough. Denver Broncos defense is elite,

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Speaker 1: just like the Texans defense is elite, but the Patriots

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Speaker 1: defense does not get enough credit every single week. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna talk more about that. What would your takeaway from

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Speaker 1: the AFC Championship game, and then we'll get to the

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Speaker 1: NFC one two.

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Speaker 2: I love the last call they had on that third

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Speaker 2: down conversion to ice the game, where apparently only Drake

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Speaker 2: May knew that he was going to take the ball himself.

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Speaker 2: As I'm watching this game play, I'm thinking, right, was

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Speaker 2: mcgamee was gonna call here?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 2: Like? They got to keep the ball on the ground,

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Speaker 2: they got to kill the clock. And then I'm like,

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Speaker 2: what it is, Drake May? They gonna let him throw

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Speaker 2: and then of course they do the option where he

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Speaker 2: just a fantastic play call. Whether it was Drake May,

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Speaker 2: that was all Drake May or McDaniel's a total Drake May.

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Speaker 2: But don't tell that the other players that were gonna

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Speaker 2: do this. Just a great finish to that game. But

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Speaker 2: I do kind of question what that game would have

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Speaker 2: turned out to be if it was bon Nicks and

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Speaker 2: not Jared Stdn't. I don't think that really crushed.

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Speaker 1: Den work if Sean Payton hadn't had his head up

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Speaker 1: his rear end and kicked the field goal knowing that

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Speaker 1: points will be at a premium with the weather looming

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Speaker 1: and Jared's didn't playing quarterback. For you, what is Sean

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Speaker 1: Payton thinking about there? To me, that has been the

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Speaker 1: death knell of all these teams with this fourth down

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Speaker 1: nonsense instead of taking points we talked about in the

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Speaker 1: regular season, we talked about in the postseason, and it

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Speaker 1: happened again. And honestly, I'm hanging this one on Sean Payton.

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Speaker 1: Forget the what if bo Nicks. Sean Payton had a

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Speaker 1: chance here and he blew it because he didn't take

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Speaker 1: into account enough that Jared Sidham was playing quarterback and

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Speaker 1: the weather that was coming in the second half was

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Speaker 1: going to be such a problem. I have silenced Andrew

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Speaker 1: Erickson after all these years, for the first time ever.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't have the meteorologists on speed dial.

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Speaker 1: Apparently, Oh, come on, you know that they know these

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Speaker 1: guys know who fish in the locker room. They know

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Speaker 1: what they have to prepare for.

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Speaker 2: But you have to remember, if Sean Payton's the offensive guy, right,

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Speaker 2: he's offensive play callers. So like, that's one of the

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Speaker 2: big differences we saw both to play callers lose this

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Speaker 2: say Sean McVay too, like didn't have his best game

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Speaker 2: in terms of play calling, in terms of game management

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Speaker 2: making the right decisions. So I know that we've been

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Speaker 2: so focused, especially with this coaching carousels like gotta get

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Speaker 2: offensive guy, you gotta get offensive guy, Gotta Gevin's guy

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Speaker 2: who's playing the Super Bowl this week?

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Speaker 1: No coaches, right, right, let's talk about Mike McDaniel. Let's

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Speaker 1: talk about this other game. I have to say, after

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Speaker 1: the Tarik Woolen moment of the penalty and then immediately

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Speaker 1: again you could boil it down to the special teams

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Speaker 2: The Rams, yeah, I would agree, was there Achilles heel

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Speaker 2: It honestly reminds you a lot of Rashi Shaheed and

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Speaker 2: their big special teams acquisition. He basically did nothing offensively

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Speaker 2: that one kickoff return to the Super Bowl ice the

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Speaker 2: That was like his only contribution in the entire year,

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Speaker 2: because I think he was hurt for most of the season.

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Speaker 2: But special teams, Yeah, that's a big thing that the

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Speaker 2: Patriots are gonna have to overcome again. Even in the

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Speaker 2: kicking game, right, you have a rookie kicker. That is

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Speaker 2: where the Patriots are going to bat with with one

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he was hurt for most of the season

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Speaker 1: Before we even get to that. Sam Darnald's done a

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Speaker 1: great job this year. Seattle defense is terrific. They deserve

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Speaker 1: that one seed, they deserve that division, they deserve to

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Speaker 2: Markets, mimas closer to three three and a half points

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Speaker 1: It's three and a half for me to do England Patriots.

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Speaker 2: So we did see these lines move a little bit

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Speaker 1: They're still getting in a couple places I find.

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Speaker 2: And I guess that's how the line is created, like

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Speaker 2: based off the projection and the perspective, But realistically you're

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Speaker 2: because it's kind of just how Seattle is played most

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Speaker 1: because I think what you're seeing here is, you know,

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Speaker 1: they are a lot of emotion. Yeah, the Cooper Cup

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Speaker 1: Agree with that? Yeah, I agree with that. Look, I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. We were texting back and forth after

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Speaker 1: in some markets for or two and a half to

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Speaker 1: one for Drake May's Super Bowl MVP. Because if you

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Speaker 1: think the Patriots are gonna win, I'm hard pressed to

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Speaker 1: think anybody else's MVP is igh Strake May. It's just

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Speaker 1: that weird things happen. I don't think it would be that.

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Speaker 1: I just don't think it's gonna be a defensive player.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna be Stephan Diggs. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's just an oddity. It's hard to get away for

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Speaker 1: the quarterback the total though, Andrew, you're getting forty five

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Speaker 1: and a half for the over, forty six and a

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Speaker 1: half for the under. I'm not there yet on this one.

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Speaker 1: If I had to, I would lean slightly towards the

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Speaker 1: over here, but I am just straight up on the

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Speaker 1: side of this year with the points. Where are you

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Speaker 1: at with the over under?

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Speaker 2: I think that the line is really sharp because I

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Speaker 2: can kind of see a couple of different angles. I

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Speaker 2: do know that we'll probably see this line go up,

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Speaker 2: just because as more casual betters get in when the

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Speaker 2: Super Bowls approaching, they're not gonna blink twice to bet

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Speaker 2: the over on the total of the game. So if

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Speaker 2: you're looking to bet the under like me, I think

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Speaker 2: that you probably want to wait for this line to move.

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Speaker 2: I could go either way with it right now if

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Speaker 2: there's something I want to dive a little bit deeper into.

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Speaker 2: But if the Patriots defense shows out, then it's a

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Speaker 2: pretty easy case to say, hey, this will be a

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Speaker 2: game that underperforms. We're not playing in dome conditions, so

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Speaker 2: that's something to keep in mind too. We are outdoors

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Speaker 2: at Santa Clara, so I know Weather's played a lot

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Speaker 2: of big roles. They're hoping that that doesn't play a role,

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Speaker 2: but it can rain, like we don't know what the

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Speaker 2: weather's gonna be like two weeks out, so obviously getting

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Speaker 2: some exposure to the under could could potentially be beneficial.

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Speaker 2: I do want to say one last thing too, when

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Speaker 2: it comes to just the recency bias of the Seattle Seahawks,

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Speaker 2: Mike McDonald is eight to oher in rematches, so when

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Speaker 2: if he's gotten a second chance at an opponent, especially

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Speaker 2: with these rematches against the Rams, against the forty nine ers,

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Speaker 2: against the Cardinals, it's like they've just dominated those games.

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Speaker 2: So the fact that this is the first time he's

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Speaker 2: facing the Patriot yet maybe you don't see much as

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Speaker 2: much domination. Again, remember he went to the Seahawks, hired

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Speaker 2: him because they knew he could beat Shanahan's offense, which

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Speaker 2: is a stem of Sean mcvay's offense, which I don't

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Speaker 2: really see it the same way with Josh mcganiel's offense.

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Speaker 2: So that's something to also keep in mind that, yes,

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Speaker 2: they are Juggernaut because they've been He's been selected to

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Speaker 2: beat those teams in his division. Now you're not in

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Speaker 2: the division anymore, you're not in the conference anymore. You're

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Speaker 2: facing a totally different offensive with a second year quarterback

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Speaker 2: with mobility. It's a different draw for the Seahawks defense.

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Speaker 2: So that's something I'm really interested to see. So I

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Speaker 2: agree with you. I think that on a value perspective, Look,

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Speaker 2: Pat's money line is plus two hundred. Seahawks win by

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Speaker 2: more than a touchdown is plus one twenty. So just

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Speaker 2: making from a value proposition, how I see this game

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Speaker 2: playing out, you get the most bang for your bucketing,

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Speaker 2: take Patriots on the money line.

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Speaker 1: I like it. I think you take Pats on the

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Speaker 1: money line. If someplaces like your parlay at two where

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Speaker 1: you can get Drake May his MVP, I like that

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Speaker 1: as well. I think it's gonna be a good game.

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Speaker 1: And again I feel like I'm being negative about the Seahawks.

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Speaker 1: I'm not what I'm trying to be, and I think

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Speaker 1: what Andrew's trying to be is a little realistic because

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Speaker 1: we see them keep beating up on the Rams and

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Speaker 1: we're super impressed, and we should be. The Rams are

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Speaker 1: a good football team, but the Rams are not perfect.

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Speaker 1: The Rams continue to let teams hang around. The Rams

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Speaker 1: barely got through the Panthers. They barely escaped Chicago with

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Speaker 1: the w They let teams hang around. And when you

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Speaker 1: have bad special teams and you have some bad moments there,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna eventually turn into bad scenarios for your defense.

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Speaker 1: So I'm not surprised by what happened at all, But

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Speaker 1: looking at the Seattle schedule, I'm not looking at that way.

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Speaker 1: They had these monumental victories, and don't give me the

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Speaker 1: forty nine ers. Don't give me the forty nine ers.

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Speaker 1: The forty nine ers is not impressive. The forty nine

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Speaker 1: ers also a team that had one of the easiest

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Speaker 1: schedules in football, and they faced a real defense that

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Speaker 1: was built to stop them, and they kicked the crap

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Speaker 1: out of them twice in the last month. So don't

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Speaker 1: give me the forty nine ers. Ton of injuries, to

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Speaker 1: a ton of issues, lots of problems though George Kittle

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Speaker 1: in that last game, just a lot of problems. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So again, you can only beat who they put in

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Speaker 1: front of you, but I think this underdog and error

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Speaker 1: for the Patriots is very dangerous. I also don't think

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Speaker 1: that Mike Rabel is gonna lose to a ginger quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Let's just put that out there. You think he's gonna

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Speaker 1: lose to a ginger Mike Crable. There's certain pride you

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Speaker 1: have to have. You can't lose to a ginger quarterback. Look,

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Speaker 1: Sam Darnold said, a great job. My good friend put

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Speaker 1: I have to watch Sam Donald play against the Patriots

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Speaker 1: great to talk to you about our first take on

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Speaker 1: hearing from all of you. Are you on the Seahawks,

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Speaker 1: You're on the Patriots? Why we want to know? Let's

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Speaker 1: are we wrong? I love to hear it. I get it.

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Speaker 1: Seattle's a great defense. I understand Sam Darnold's played really well.

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Speaker 1: Patriots defense continues to and they're gonna do it again.

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Speaker 1: They talked about the Texans and the pass defense took

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Speaker 1: gonna hear nothing but the Seattle Seahawks defense. Yeah, and

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Speaker 1: I'm just spiding you out there.

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Speaker 2: I do like from the Patriots standpoint fact that they're underdogs,

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Speaker 2: five straight Super Bowl underdogs. Joe, I'll cover the spread five.

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Speaker 1: Straight love that all right. That'll do it for us,

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