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Speaker 1: The San Antonio District judge resigns after a federal corruption probe.

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Speaker 2: A former San Antonio, Texas judge goes to federal prison

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Speaker 2: after pleading guilty to accepting bribes in exchange for rigging

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Speaker 2: cases in his court. Angus McGuinty committed the ultimate judicial sin.

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Speaker 2: Why did you do it?

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Speaker 3: I did it because I was foolish.

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Speaker 2: Listen to how to Bribe a Judge on Revolver podcast

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Speaker 4: The John Annick and Kenny Florian Podcastle's Show Guy, John Annick,

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Speaker 4: Kenny Florian Hid. Here are your hosts, John Annick and

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Speaker 4: Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 5: Oh, it is great to be here.

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Speaker 6: It is Monday, January twenty second, twenty eighteen, Episode one

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Speaker 6: hundred and forty of the Anak and Florian podcasts ken Flow,

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Speaker 6: What a time to be Alive? Super Bowl fifty two

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Speaker 6: is set. The New England Patriots have been invited. Motherfuckers.

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Speaker 6: I'm sorry, dude, that game was ridiculous. First of all,

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Speaker 6: I was nervous the whole time.

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Speaker 7: The Patriots only had the lead like three to nothing,

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Speaker 7: and then after that it was all Jacksonville and I

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Speaker 7: was getting very nervous.

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Speaker 5: I was like, it's over. I don't know what to

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Speaker 5: do there.

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Speaker 7: Jacksonville was playing a hell of a game, and then

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Speaker 7: all of a sudden, Tom Brady third quarter, fourth quarter

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Speaker 7: basically just took over. Unbelievable place there from a Medola

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Speaker 7: as well, just an all round.

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Speaker 5: Amazing team effort.

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Speaker 7: Those dickheads took out Gronk with that cheap shot.

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Speaker 5: I was kind of pissed off about that, so we

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Speaker 5: deserved it. It is tricky that Gronk play.

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Speaker 6: And I do feel for these defensive players in the NFL, Kenny,

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Speaker 6: because if you go low, you know you're tearing his

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Speaker 6: acl apart right in some of these situations. And if

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Speaker 6: you go high, you need to obviously go shoulder and

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Speaker 6: not helmet to helmet. But it's hard for the defenders

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Speaker 6: in this day and age. But you're right, man, Tom

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Speaker 6: Brady obviously down the stretch. And Danny Amondola, I mean,

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Speaker 6: that guy's my hero eighty making big play after big

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Speaker 6: play in these huge games. But for the Jacksonville Jaguars, man,

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Speaker 6: and you know, I feel for their fans today because

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Speaker 6: they played a really good game for you know, two

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Speaker 6: and a half quarters Bortals was awesome. They had the

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Speaker 6: right game plan to beat the Patriots. They were shoving

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Speaker 6: it down their throats. But you have to play to win,

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Speaker 6: right and they're not playing to win down the stretch.

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Speaker 6: And I think you have to criticize the coaching staff,

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Speaker 6: right they had the Patriots on their heels and they

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Speaker 6: just start running the ball and they didn't stay aggressive

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Speaker 6: through the air. They probably took away Bortles's confidence a

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Speaker 6: little bit with that. And you know, with the Patriots,

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Speaker 6: even when they don't play well, they're gonna get theirs.

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Speaker 6: Like you gotta get to twenty five or thirty points

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Speaker 6: when you play the Patriots. So I don't care that

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Speaker 6: you're up twenty to ten in the fourth quarter. You

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Speaker 6: got to make it twenty seven to ten. And I

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Speaker 6: just knew when they got conservative offensively that eventually TV

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Speaker 6: twelve is gonna get his So I feel like the

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Speaker 6: players maybe are getting criticized today when the coaches should

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Speaker 6: be the ones on the Jacksonville side that sort of

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Speaker 6: get the bulk of the criticism. Obviously, New England made

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Speaker 6: a lot of plays, but yeah, nothing fun about it.

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Speaker 6: And then of course the Philadelphia Eagles with a massive

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Speaker 6: win in the NFC title game. Paul Felder is going

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Speaker 6: to join us next week. He's got to fight with

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Speaker 6: Alia Quinta coming up. We're going to talk about that.

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Speaker 6: But Paul Felder, Kenny and his brothers are massive Eagles fans,

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Speaker 6: and Paul actually is calling the fights in Belaying, Brazil

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Speaker 6: on Super Bowl weekend. He's gonna be in the air

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Speaker 6: for the entire Super Bowl. So we're trying to amend that.

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Speaker 6: I told him if he could just shorten the trip

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Speaker 6: and come to Miami, he can come to my house

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Speaker 6: if he wants to watch it with my mom, who

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Speaker 6: is a diehard Pats fan who is probably gonna just

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Speaker 6: skip him hell the whole time. But the invitation is

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Speaker 6: there to the Irish Dragon if he wants it. But

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Speaker 6: obviously a big weekend in Boston for the UFC. I

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Speaker 6: Celtics Kenny for like nine and a half minutes of

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Speaker 6: the second quarter, and they.

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Speaker 5: Played like the worst quarter they've played in.

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Speaker 6: Two and a half years, you know, just one turnover

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Speaker 6: but it was fun to be there in the garden

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Speaker 6: and the fighters delivered and a lot to get to

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Speaker 6: obviously today full recap of UFC two twenty Calvin Cater

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Speaker 6: was a big winner.

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Speaker 5: He was.

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Speaker 6: He is scheduled to join us today. Ray Long go

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Speaker 6: back for his minute. The greatest living American Brian stand

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Speaker 6: later in the show as well. Ken Flows picks for Charlotte.

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Speaker 6: We got to stop wasting time. Let's get to headlines.

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Speaker 4: Headlines. It's time for headlines. I have some very urgent

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Speaker 6: All Right, UFC two twenty Mio chitch versus in Ghanu

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Speaker 6: and Steve A gets it done here Kenny, twenty five

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Speaker 6: grueling minutes, mental toughness off the charts, and there are

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Speaker 6: a lot of different ways you can go with this fight.

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Speaker 6: But I am so impressed with Steve Ay and the

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Speaker 6: understanding Kenny, of what it takes to not only beat

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Speaker 6: of what it takes to win a five round championship

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Speaker 6: fight in mixed martial arts, and steep A from a

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Speaker 6: conditioning standpoint, from a skill set standpoint, was prepared to

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Speaker 6: A stamps his legacy.

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Speaker 5: Is one of the greatest heavyweights we've ever without a doubt.

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Speaker 7: And as you go back into the heavyweight division, you know,

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Speaker 7: if there's one division where you can get away with

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Speaker 7: be successful in that division. You look at Randy Kotor,

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Speaker 7: those guys can strike and wrestle as well. And you know,

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Speaker 7: for Francis and Ghana, you can't go in there with

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Speaker 7: I was really happy to see steep A fight smart

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Speaker 7: Step I Miaicic. I was blown away by the performance.

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Speaker 7: His chin again on full display, eating those shots, you know,

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Speaker 6: Now, A lot of people will say better to get

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Speaker 6: some people are saying in ghan Who's done, which I

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Speaker 6: think is totally absurd. I think he's gonna come back better,

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Speaker 6: Steepe Kenny, right, I just felt like every time there

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Speaker 6: Herb Dean only stood them up Kenny one time, and

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Speaker 6: I think Stepe deserves a lot of credit for that. Now,

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Speaker 6: least twice stood them up, right, Because I did think

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Speaker 6: there were some opportunities where Stepe maybe wasn't doing a

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Speaker 6: a little bit anxious because there wasn't so much action.

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Speaker 6: I was surprised Herb only stood them up once, but

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Speaker 6: I felt like every time he commanded steep Bay to

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Speaker 5: I agree with both those things you said.

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Speaker 7: I think if you look at other referees, maybe maybe

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Speaker 7: I agree, but I also agree when herbdid did ask

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Speaker 7: Francis just didn't have an answer. He didn't have the

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Speaker 6: Right, Francis and Ghana was not prepared to go in

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Speaker 6: think there is some criticism to be levied because of that.

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Speaker 6: I know he was turning around quickly. I don't know

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Speaker 6: I don't know what led to that. I don't know

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Speaker 6: if fernand Lopez wanted that to happen to bring Francis

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Speaker 6: All indications are he went straight from there to Boston.

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Speaker 6: He was exhausted. There was a lot of promotion that resulted,

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Speaker 6: right he went to Boston, then had to get in

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Speaker 6: that drive pretty well, nothing easy about it right going

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Speaker 6: anything else that might have helped him Againstepe. You know,

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Speaker 6: this guy was jet setting and I'm not saying he

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Speaker 6: Maybe even wasn't.

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Speaker 5: Ready to fight Steve A a guy on his level.

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Speaker 5: I don't know, but at pointing.

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Speaker 7: No, those are all factors, dude, Those are all factors.

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Speaker 7: Those are all things that fans don't realize that when

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Speaker 5: Without a doubt.

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Speaker 7: You know, Daniel Cormier is the guy that you know,

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Speaker 5: This is a guy who who does it all and

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Speaker 6: People forget that this is a man who lost a child,

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Speaker 7: Listen, now, I think Alexander Gustison, as you said, is

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Speaker 5: Miacic, I don't know, man.

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Speaker 7: I mean, this is a heavyweight striker, a guy who

436
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Speaker 7: can do a lot of things, and you know, can

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Speaker 7: Daniel strike with Steepe? I think, you know, there's aspects

438
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Speaker 7: of his game where maybe he might have a speed

439
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Speaker 7: advantage to a certain extent. Is he gonna hit as

440
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Speaker 7: hard as Stepe? Is he gonna be able to knock

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Speaker 7: out someone like Stevee?

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Speaker 5: I don't think so. I mean, if Francis couldn't do it,

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 7: I don't think so, And I think to eat heavyweight

445
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Speaker 7: shots from someone like step A Miaciic And if Daniel's

446
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Speaker 7: gonna switch things up and go to the wrestling, well,

447
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Speaker 7: Steve A can wrestle as well. Is Daniel a better

448
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Speaker 7: wrestler technically yes? Does he have better entries?

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 7: So it just concerns me when I see Daniel plant

451
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Speaker 7: his feet and do this and just kind of try

452
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Speaker 7: to leave back to avoid shots.

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Speaker 5: You can't do that against someone like Steve Bay.

454
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Speaker 7: He can get away with that against maybe Vulcan, but

455
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Speaker 7: I would not want to see him at this point.

456
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Speaker 5: Is great if.

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Speaker 7: You're talking about Daniel Cormier at thirty four thirty five,

458
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Speaker 7: absolutely let's see it at this point.

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Speaker 5: I don't think Daniel needs to do that. I like

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Speaker 5: that you're keeping it real.

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Speaker 6: It sounds to me like you feel like the gust

462
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Speaker 6: of some fight is an easier proposition easier, yeah, yeah,

463
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Speaker 6: And I think the betting lines would reflect that. Kenny,

464
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Speaker 6: I guess I just see everything that this weight cut

465
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Speaker 6: in tails right. For him to have to make two

466
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Speaker 6: hundred and five pounds again at thirty nine years old

467
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Speaker 6: is no picnic at all. I see the fact that

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Speaker 6: Steve A weighs in at about two hundred and forty

469
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Speaker 6: six pounds, and I think DC would probably be in

470
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Speaker 6: that range as well.

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Speaker 5: You know, I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I just feel like, certainly from a financial standpoint, d

473
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Speaker 6: Fight would would want that, and I think to stamp

474
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Speaker 6: his legacy with a chance to become a two division champion.

475
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Speaker 6: But he was a little bit vague with me as

476
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Speaker 6: to which fight was more difficult, you know, And I

477
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Speaker 6: just think it's interesting. I do think that Dana White

478
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Speaker 6: is interested, and I do think that Dana is going

479
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Speaker 6: to move to make that fight potentially. What's a bigger

480
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Speaker 6: pay per view fight for us, Kenny? Is it stepe

481
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Speaker 6: A Kane Velaskz or stepe A Daniel Cormier. You know,

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Speaker 6: I don't know the answer. I don't know what the

483
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Speaker 6: internal metrics would say about a returning Kane Velaskz against

484
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Speaker 6: Daniel Cormier, who has been the far more active party

485
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Speaker 6: and a guy who's been all over TV for the

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Speaker 6: last five years.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and listen, as much as Kane Alaska's deserves that shot,

488
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Speaker 7: I'm a huge kaaneve Alaska's fan have been for a

489
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Speaker 7: very long time.

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Speaker 5: I think that.

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Speaker 7: I don't know if the if the promotion can rely

492
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Speaker 7: on Caine to show up on fight night at this point,

493
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Speaker 7: just based on everything he's been dealing with. I hope

494
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Speaker 7: that is not the case, but it becomes hard for

495
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Speaker 7: It becomes very difficult for a business to say, here's

496
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Speaker 7: a guy who's been injured for all these years, could

497
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Speaker 7: date with them.

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Speaker 5: You know, it really is a tough thing.

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Speaker 7: And Daniel Cormie has been one of those guys even

500
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Speaker 7: with his injuries, that you know, for the most part,

501
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Speaker 7: he's going to show up on fight night. He's a

502
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Speaker 7: guy you can rely on. So tough decision there for

503
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Speaker 7: both Daniel and and the UFC.

504
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Speaker 6: And then just sort of putting a bow on the

505
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Speaker 6: two title fights, big fixture, big picture. You saw two contenders,

506
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Speaker 6: challengers that at least in my opinion, just appeared not

507
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Speaker 6: to be ready for prime time. We talked about Francis

508
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Speaker 6: and Ganu and where he may go from here. Still

509
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Speaker 6: going to be a big fight next, still going to

510
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Speaker 6: be a top six guy for Francis, and that's very exciting.

511
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Speaker 6: But for Vulcan oos Demir, right, the blueprint I think

512
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Speaker 6: is there right now, This is a young fighter at

513
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Speaker 6: least in terms of his m M A miles. But

514
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Speaker 6: a lot of work to do for Vulcan, I would

515
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Speaker 6: think as he tries to get himself back to where

516
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Speaker 6: he got here very quickly in the UFC.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely, And these are kind of the fights that you

519
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Speaker 7: know when you face that high level opponent, when you

520
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 7: face the champion, you go back and go okay, Wow,

521
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Speaker 7: I got a lot of work to do. I got

522
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Speaker 7: to get my wrestling in order. I got to get

523
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Speaker 7: my jiu jitsu better. I got to get my get

524
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Speaker 7: ups much sharper. I got to be smarter when I'm

525
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Speaker 7: on my feet, I.

526
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Speaker 5: Gotta move more.

527
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Speaker 7: So they're gonna look back at that tape and both

528
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Speaker 7: Francis and Vulcan will improve from this fight. I think

529
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Speaker 7: there's nothing more motivating and revealing than a loss. And

530
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Speaker 7: with both these guys, just the way that they handle

531
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Speaker 7: adversity and how calm and composed they are typically in

532
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Speaker 7: a fight. They showed a lot of toughness. I think

533
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Speaker 7: there's some positive you can take from that fight as

534
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Speaker 7: well to keep them motivated, to keep them pressing forward

535
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Speaker 7: and still young in their careers. Both of them so

536
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Speaker 7: at a lot of positives from this fight as well.

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Speaker 6: Very curious to see how it did on pay per

538
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Speaker 6: view and how much maybe a guy like Francis and

539
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Speaker 6: Gano in a relatively short amount of time was able

540
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Speaker 6: to produce a significant number. I think Cormier has become

541
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Speaker 6: a top three pay per view draw in this company,

542
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Speaker 6: while while Ronda has stepped aside, you know, but he

543
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Speaker 6: hasn't necessarily produced a big number without John Jones. The

544
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Speaker 6: reason I bring it up is for Francis, and I

545
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Speaker 6: think he should say, look, give me a three rounder

546
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Speaker 6: as a comin event on pay per view, right like

547
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,919
Speaker 6: you could headline and Ghana into Black Beasts, throw him

548
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Speaker 6: on FS one, throw on five. I mean, there's some

549
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Speaker 6: huge fights on that I would love to see. But

550
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Speaker 6: don't you think for in Ghanu you kind of avoid

551
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Speaker 6: a five rounder here at all costs, Like, just give

552
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Speaker 6: me a three just a pre round contract.

553
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Speaker 7: Not against the wrestler, you don't, you know, don't put

554
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Speaker 7: him in against the wrestler in a five round fight.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, all right, Well we'll see what's next for those guys,

556
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Speaker 6: all right. But now joining us as we continue the

557
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Speaker 6: UFC two twenty recap, another of the big winners he

558
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Speaker 6: was part of the Fight of the night against Shane Burgos,

559
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Speaker 6: but in his TD garden and his home Ariva Arena Mathuens,

560
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Speaker 6: Calvin cat produced the biggest win of his professional career.

561
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Speaker 6: Calvin John and Kenny here Man, congratulations on a massive

562
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Speaker 6: win this weekend. It's got to be a pretty good

563
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Speaker 6: Monday morning to wake up, as Calvin cater I would think.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, what a great day, man.

565
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Speaker 10: I'm pumped, especially after seeing the Patriots play Sunday. Sunday

566
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Speaker 10: during the day take on the w is a good

567
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Speaker 10: good day to be a fan of Annoyingly.

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Speaker 5: So, well, it's good to talk to you man.

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Speaker 6: Obviously we got to sit down with you Domina Cruz

570
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Speaker 6: and I did on Thursday, and your confidence really sort

571
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Speaker 6: of took over the room.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 6: I mean, how good did you feel making that walk?

574
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Speaker 6: It didn't seem like nerves or the moment got to

575
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Speaker 6: you whatsoever.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, we'll help with the confidence.

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Speaker 10: It always is preparation, you know, had a ten week

578
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Speaker 10: camp and I feel like men along with my two teammates,

579
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Speaker 10: having that amount of time to be working together, studying

580
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Speaker 10: his film, putting together game plans, and then not having.

581
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Speaker 8: To go too far to fight it all just worked out.

582
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Speaker 10: Everything on paper was great, and to go and execute

583
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Speaker 10: the way we've envisioned it was special.

584
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Speaker 6: Have you gone back and watched the fight and if so,

585
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Speaker 6: what was your assessment of it?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 10: I started a couple of times. Honestly, there's a lot

588
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Speaker 10: of things that I'd like to improve on. I think

589
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Speaker 10: I could have made it a lot easier for myself.

590
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Speaker 10: I was making a little difficult for myself until the

591
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Speaker 10: third round. I landed a big shot and that's what

592
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Speaker 10: got me out of there. But you know, the first

593
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 10: round I was happy with. Second round I got to

594
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Speaker 10: give to Shane. I think he came back quite strong

595
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Speaker 10: and we had that crowd going, I thought in the

596
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Speaker 10: side of the third and to catch him early and

597
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Speaker 10: the place exploded after.

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Speaker 8: It was awesome.

599
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 7: So you know that that job was just amazing. Man,

600
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 7: it really was stinging and keeping Burgos on the outside.

601
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 7: Was that something that you knew heading into that fight

602
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Speaker 7: that you were going to use or did you feel

603
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Speaker 7: it out during the fight.

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Speaker 10: That was something I'm trying to use better in all

605
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Speaker 10: my fights. You know, stay working behind the job. I

606
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 10: think a good job sets up all your other shots,

607
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Speaker 10: and I believe That's what kind of helped me land

608
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 10: that right hand in the third is because I was

609
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Speaker 10: throwing a lot of singles, single jabs in the first,

610
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Speaker 10: in the second, trying to put the two behind it,

611
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Speaker 10: and finally in the third it found a home when

612
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Speaker 10: I changed the distance, came in a little deeper, landed

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Speaker 10: the heavy shot as I fell back, but I realized.

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Speaker 8: He was off balance.

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Speaker 10: That's when I sat down and ripped up a cut,

616
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Speaker 10: landed and just tried to follow up while I had

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Speaker 10: him hurt.

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Speaker 7: And yeah, it wasn't one upper cut, it was two

619
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Speaker 7: very nasty uper cuts man, very precise, awesome finish. So

620
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Speaker 7: you know, between you guys, when you guys were heading

621
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Speaker 7: into this fight, he said, these are two real potential

622
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Speaker 7: superstars in this division. You getting the win now, this

623
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Speaker 7: elevates you tremendously. Who do you want to fight next?

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Speaker 7: Where does this put you in the division?

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Speaker 5: You think?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, huge win.

627
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Speaker 10: I believe a lot of people are talking about, you know,

628
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Speaker 10: the winner of this is, you know, somewhere in the

629
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Speaker 10: top fifteens, and I'm excited to see where it lands.

630
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Speaker 10: But regardless, I kind of put all that into my

631
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Speaker 10: my manager, Tyson Shadier at top game.

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Speaker 8: I'm happy to have him on board. I feel like.

633
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Speaker 10: That's uh, you know, he's strong in those areas finding

634
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 10: the right fights, and I'm just glad that I have

635
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Speaker 10: this opportunity in front of me, and whoever they put

636
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Speaker 10: I'll be ready for. I just want to concentrate on

637
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 10: the you know, the training, the eating, all the important

638
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 10: stuff is the athlete.

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Speaker 8: Let my manager go find who he wants us to fight,

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Speaker 8: and let's do it.

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Speaker 5: UFC.

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Speaker 6: Featherway Calvin Cater with us here on the Anak and

643
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Speaker 6: Florian podcast. I know when we spoke Thursday, you just

644
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 6: sort of were hoping for an opportunity to prove yourself

645
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Speaker 6: against these guys. I know you've taken your training to

646
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 6: that requisite next level, but did you prove anything to

647
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Speaker 6: yourself on this big stage against an undefeated guy as

648
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 6: a plus one eighty five underdog that you could go

649
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Speaker 6: in there and deal with some adversity and still put

650
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Speaker 6: away a very talented guy.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 10: I'm continue learning every fight, and that was my first

653
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Speaker 10: finish I think at forty five, so definitely a little

654
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Speaker 10: boost of confidence knowing I can get the job done.

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Speaker 10: I've had a lot of guys hurt I haven't quite

656
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Speaker 10: been able to finish the job. I think this one

657
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 10: put a lot of work behind it. Man ten week camp,

658
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 10: I feel like we're just improving every time we go

659
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 10: out there. I'm excited to see who have lined up

660
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 10: in our sites next and go out and execute on

661
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 10: him too, make an example. I'm new in this division,

662
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 10: but I'm gaining ground quickly and I plan on continue

663
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 10: to do so for wherever they put in front of

664
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:49,640
Speaker 10: me next.

665
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 6: So you made your UFC debut on two weeks notice

666
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 6: last July against Andre Peeley. You were a plus three

667
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 6: hundred underdog. I know your buddies made a lot of

668
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 6: money that night, So I got to ask, and we

669
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 6: had a handicapper on our show last week who advised

670
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 6: a play on you. Any of the buddies cash in

671
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 6: on the plus one to eighty this weekend?

672
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 8: Kid, Yeah, you know you better believe it.

673
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 10: But I thought that they don't come knocking if it

674
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 10: ever goes the other way, because these guys got a

675
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 10: little crazy for me. I'm glad they didn't tell me

676
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 10: till after the fight because my nerves move in the

677
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 10: hometown crowd.

678
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 5: All right, I'll leave you with this.

679
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,280
Speaker 6: I know you said to me also on Thursday that

680
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 6: the mental focus of knowing that your next fight is

681
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 6: going to be in the UFC against a killer is

682
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 6: something that has helped you a lot. Now, you just

683
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 6: beat a guy who was all the rage in Shane Burgos,

684
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 6: You're gonna most likely be the guy with the number

685
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 6: next to your name, fighting a name that, even if

686
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 6: not a household name to the casual fans, is a

687
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 6: big name fighter. I mean, how excited are you to face,

688
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 6: you know, the cub Swansons of the world going forward?

689
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 10: Hey, every next level depends a new un I'm ready, man,

690
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 10: I'm growing every day. I'm excited. I'm excited for those opportunities.

691
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 10: Like I said, this isn't a real pressure to me.

692
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 10: We sign up for this. I'm just gonna be excited

693
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 10: to go out whoever it is and see as an

694
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 10: opportunity to go out and do.

695
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Speaker 8: What I do best.

696
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 5: We were able to show Rob Font's reaction to your

697
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 5: win on the broadcast. Were you in the back?

698
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 6: I know, for our listeners that don't know Rob Font

699
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 6: is Calvin's primary training partner, were you able Were you

700
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 6: sitting in the back warming up watching Rob's fight?

701
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 8: Yeah? Him and Kyle as well. I was the beginning, Yeah,

702
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 8: I was.

703
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 9: I was.

704
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 8: I was amped to watch both those guys go out

705
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 8: and do work.

706
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 10: I know, it's a little pressure for Kyle being first

707
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 10: wanted to start us out and on the right note

708
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 10: and Uh and then Rob to get that spectacular finish

709
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 10: on a tough kid like I'll meet him.

710
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 8: Man.

711
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 10: I started feeling the pressure, like, shit, we're going to

712
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 10: and O right now, I got to finish the job,

713
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 10: you know, yeah week this week. So now when I

714
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 10: went out, seeing his reaction out back was similar to

715
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Speaker 10: how I looked when he had his finish.

716
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 8: It's just he you know, I had the fight still

717
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 8: to go and he was already out. He was cool

718
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 8: and calm out back. But what a feeling.

719
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 10: It's great having a team with you and there out

720
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 10: of the locker room vibe was great. It was you know,

721
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 10: I really feel like we're stepping up here in New

722
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 10: England and I'm proud to be at the forefront, you know,

723
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 10: with it along with the tough guys from our area.

724
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 8: Uh, to put out to put our talent on the map.

725
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 6: You know, well, you couldn't have done more to maximize

726
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 6: the showcase. And I know Ken Ken Flow was a

727
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 6: guy who was who was the number one fighter out

728
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 6: of Boston for a long time, three times thought for

729
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 6: a UFC title. But it's nice for us as Bostonians, Man,

730
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 6: to see you go in there and and seize that moment.

731
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 6: You know, I feel like you're a guy that can

732
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Speaker 6: really help take the torch and and maybe compete for

733
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 6: a UFC championship.

734
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Speaker 5: One Dad and a lot of championship parades in Boston.

735
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 6: You could be sure, Bro, you win a UFC title,

736
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 6: I will make sure they clear the fucking streets.

737
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Speaker 11: Yeah, man, John, Yeah, I grew up watching Kenny too man,

738
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 11: always been a fan. I had the pleasure of doing

739
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,479
Speaker 11: some rounds of them one time. I don't know if

740
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 11: he remembers as much as I did, but great opportunity.

741
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 11: I'm really excited to be surrounded by UFC caliber athletes

742
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 11: and now growing into the you know, the new me

743
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 11: that is is demanding. Man, got tough fights slided ahead

744
00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 11: and I'm ready to.

745
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Speaker 8: Fill that role.

746
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 6: And you didn't even have to call for the bonus

747
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 6: to get it, see, buddy, great job, Thank you, thanks

748
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 6: for carving out a few minutes for us. Congratulations on

749
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 6: a huge weekend. Enjoy it with your friends and family,

750
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 6: and we look forward to your next fight.

751
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 5: Man. Thank you all, amazing fight man.

752
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:15,520
Speaker 8: Congrats Thanks Anny.

753
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 6: All right there, he is Calvin Cator with us on

754
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 6: the Anak and Florian podcast.

755
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 5: Now.

756
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 6: We talked to Shane Burgos Kenny before the fight, and

757
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 6: he said their secret Sauce has been training with a

758
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 6: lot of pro boxers, a lot of guys who Shane

759
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 6: didn't even know their names. And I would imagine sometimes

760
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 6: in sparring for big fights, you do spar with a

761
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 6: lot of guys you don't know their names, so you

762
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 6: had no idea you hit sparred with Calvin Cator.

763
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 5: Is that accurate or no? I'm not sure he looks familiar. Now,

764
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Speaker 5: I don't know, man, I get hit ahead.

765
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Speaker 7: You know, maybe I didn't remember because he knocked me

766
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Speaker 7: out or something.

767
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Speaker 5: But listen, I love his quote.

768
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 7: He says, the next level requires a new you, and

769
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Speaker 7: I love that attitude. Is a kid who really means it,

770
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 7: who continues to improve, continues to represent the city of Boston.

771
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Speaker 5: And you know, I was blown away.

772
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 7: I thought Shane Bargos was a little bit ahead skill

773
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 7: wise heading into that fight, and Shane looked smooth, but

774
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,960
Speaker 7: it never faced Calvin, even though he was heading backwards.

775
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 5: He was always keeping on the outside with.

776
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 7: That jab and just stayed calm and composed, and I

777
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,280
Speaker 7: think that was the difference. And Shane just kept running

778
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 7: into shot after shot after shot started adding up, and

779
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 7: then once Calvin had the opportunity to take him out

780
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 7: with that upper cut, he finished the job beautifully.

781
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 5: Man, what a performance.

782
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:31,760
Speaker 6: And I think Burgos is going to be a problem

783
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,879
Speaker 6: going forward to I mean, how tough is that guy?

784
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 3: Right?

785
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 7: And a huge featherweight as well, by the way, because

786
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 7: Calvin's a big featherweight.

787
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 6: But wow, and just think ken flow the next time

788
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 6: you analyze that Calvin cater fight. Now you can now

789
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 6: did some rounds with him back in the day.

790
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 5: Don't remember it, damn fig But uh yeah, I'm old.

791
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,680
Speaker 6: Has any Massachusetts native ever won a UFC championship?

792
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 5: So Tcha Torres was born in the Fall River?

793
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, he doesn't necessarily claim Massachusetts as much as some

794
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,240
Speaker 6: of us would like her too. I hope you're listening, Tisha,

795
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 6: I love you, but you know, I think t Sha

796
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 6: Torres is someone who is on the cusp. Potentially might

797
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 6: be one fight away from a championship fight. I think

798
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 6: she's fighting Jess gonjoj actually in an eliminator if I'm

799
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:18,240
Speaker 6: not mistaken.

800
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 5: Yes, But Cater, you know we'll see.

801
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 6: I mean, featherweight's no joke ban And certainly there were

802
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 6: some things that he didn't like in this fight, right

803
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 6: he opened with that, So there's work to be done,

804
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,919
Speaker 6: no doubt about it. But with Calvin Cater and maybe

805
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 6: Rob Font actually is closer right now. And let's talk

806
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 6: about Rob Font for a second. The TKO victory hero

807
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 6: over Thomas Almeida no bonus at least publicly for Rob

808
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 6: Font because there were a lot of good fights and

809
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 6: performances this weekend, but this is huge for Rob Font.

810
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 6: This was the betting line Kenny that moved the most

811
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 6: when we did our show. Almeida was minus one seventy five.

812
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:54,720
Speaker 6: He closed about minus one eighteen. So that was sharp

813
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,959
Speaker 6: money coming in on Rob Font and he certainly made

814
00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 6: good on it. Huge win, biggest of the career, no

815
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 6: doubt for Rob Font.

816
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 7: Rob Font was the better striker period in this fight

817
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 7: against Thomas Almeida. And I don't think a lot of

818
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,959
Speaker 7: people realize that Rob not only does he hit hard,

819
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 7: but he was putting together excellent combinations.

820
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 5: Defensively, he was better than all Meida. It was the

821
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 5: same Almeida.

822
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 7: Almeida keeps his hands nice and tight to his head

823
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 7: and all that stuff, but he eats way too many shots.

824
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 7: And when you get a sharp guy, a sharp striker

825
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:29,399
Speaker 7: like a Rob Font, it just was not a good thing.

826
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 7: Almeida has to really improve his defense, He has to

827
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 7: prove his footwork.

828
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,760
Speaker 5: He was never in the proper range. That was the difference.

829
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 7: I think for me was that, you know, maybe Almeida

830
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:45,760
Speaker 7: throws his strikes maybe a little bit more with better fundamentals, perhaps,

831
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 7: but it was Rob Font who was always in the

832
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 7: proper distance and people ignore the footwork, and that really

833
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 7: was the difference. He was always in the proper angle

834
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 7: and he was just making all Meda eat a lot

835
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 7: of shots out there, and you just can't do that.

836
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 7: So amazing that you have a guy in Almeida who

837
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 7: had such a tremendous record now facing a couple devastating

838
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 7: losses in that division.

839
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:09,879
Speaker 5: I don't know where he's gonna go from here.

840
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 7: I think you should take some time and just get

841
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,280
Speaker 7: better defensively with his boxing.

842
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 6: When Thomas Almeida walked to the octagon on May twenty ninth,

843
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 6: twenty sixteen, to face Cody Garbrant in that main event

844
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 6: in Las Vegas. He was twenty one to zero. He

845
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 6: was a minus one ninety favorite against Cody Garbrandt. Now

846
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 6: he has lost three of four granted against garbrand Jimmy

847
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 6: Rivera and Rob font The winning there a finish of

848
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 6: Albert Morales. But this is a Thomas Almeida who was

849
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 6: headlining for the UFC. I mean, this guy was just

850
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 6: penciled in as a future champion. He's going to carry

851
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 6: the torch for Brazil and at one hundred and thirty

852
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 6: five pounds in twenty seventeen, with a loss in three

853
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 6: of his last four, you know, I feel pretty convicted

854
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 6: and saying I know you don't always love the absolutes.

855
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 6: I'm not sure this guy's ever going to fight for

856
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 6: a UFC vantamweight championship. There's just too much talent, He's

857
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 6: absorbed too much damage and we've seen a lot of

858
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 6: holes that the elite fighters have taken full advantage of it.

859
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,359
Speaker 7: John, I I agree, man, and listen, this is how

860
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 7: tough this sport is.

861
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 5: When you get to the UFC.

862
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 7: It's a whole different level and what may work at

863
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 7: the local and regional circuit events may not work in

864
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 7: the UFC at a high level. So don't think just

865
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 7: because you have success heading into the UFC that that's

866
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 7: gonna carry over. You're still gonna have to make those adjustments.

867
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 7: You're still gonna have to get better significantly when you

868
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 7: get to the big show. And I think some fighters

869
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 7: forget that that just because you're successful, even in the UFC,

870
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 7: things can go down very very quickly. I mean, how

871
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 7: many times have we seen it with former champions or

872
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 7: all of a sudden, you know they're they're on top

873
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 7: of the world, and all of a sudden, you know

874
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 7: they're they're on a prelim, you know.

875
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 5: Uh So it can change real quickly.

876
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,919
Speaker 7: That's why when it comes to combat, man, if you're

877
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 7: not getting better, you're getting worse. Everyone else is working,

878
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 7: you might as well be doing the same thing.

879
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,879
Speaker 5: So a big name will be next for Rob Thott.

880
00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 6: We'll see if Thomas Almada can make the adjustments and

881
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 6: try to get back into bantamwait title contention. Low another

882
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,760
Speaker 6: fight on the main car we didn't touch on. Pretty

883
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,880
Speaker 6: underwhelming affair here between John Valante and Franti Marbojo's. Kenny

884
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,359
Speaker 6: Valante told me when we spoke on Tuesday that if

885
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,720
Speaker 6: he had finished Franti Marbojos, he was going to grab

886
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 6: the microphone from Joe Rogan and do like the Gronk spike, right,

887
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 6: the Rob Gronkowski spike with it. And so I said

888
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 6: to him, I was like, I'm not gonna tell Zach

889
00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 6: Candido right, because he'll just blow the whole thing up.

890
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 5: Our producer.

891
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 6: But I said, I was like, dude, like we're told.

892
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 6: One of the first things Craig bor Sorry told me

893
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 6: when he hired me, when you're doing these post fight interviews,

894
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 6: whatever you do, hold onto the microphone with your life.

895
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 6: You can't let one of these fighters take control of

896
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 6: our broadcast. And effectively, once they have the microphone, they

897
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 6: have control of the broadcast. So but ultimately the finish

898
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 6: didn't materialize for Valante. He still was able to shout

899
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 6: out Teddy Bruski after the fight, so that was good.

900
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 6: But a nice win for John Valante, nonetheless, and he

901
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 6: did it without Keith Trimble in his corner, so that

902
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,439
Speaker 6: puts a bow on the main card. But we still

903
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 6: will get into it more because we have a very

904
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:04,719
Speaker 6: esteemed venerable gentleman on the line. Let's get to Ray

905
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:06,760
Speaker 6: long It's.

906
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 4: Now time for the Ray Long Minute, and.

907
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 5: I'm going to punch a hole in this.

908
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:11,400
Speaker 9: That's what I.

909
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:19,240
Speaker 4: Want, The Long Minute. John Anick and Kenny Florian podcast.

910
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,839
Speaker 5: Now joining us, Ray Longo, fresh off the bye week.

911
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 5: There he is. There. He is not the best hair

912
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:28,479
Speaker 5: day in the world. He is He was just holding pads.

913
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:29,320
Speaker 5: Leave him alone.

914
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 9: I'm getting that's exactly right, getting a hiccut this.

915
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 6: Week, growing out that letter.

916
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 9: At this a at this age, I'm happy to have him.

917
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:41,880
Speaker 5: Let me just tell you that this is true.

918
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 9: Well, where do we begin?

919
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 5: Well, I I want to begin with.

920
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,839
Speaker 6: Nothing makes me happier than when you text me when

921
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 6: I'm calling these fights. So keep texting me. I love

922
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 6: seeing your name pop up in my phone.

923
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 9: Oh, I'll remember to do that. What was the text

924
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,680
Speaker 9: the uh? What was the thing? I said? Something about

925
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:03,760
Speaker 9: the performance center?

926
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I was banging on the cardio equipment at

927
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:07,280
Speaker 5: the PI.

928
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:09,919
Speaker 12: I mean, I mean, how did they show this guy,

929
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 12: Kenny with the mask on on the treadmill like they're

930
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 12: building some super human guy and then he gets in

931
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 12: there and he's got four minutes in him. How do

932
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 12: you I really think that's the biggest takeaway. Man, it's

933
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 12: such a I don't want to hear shit about anything.

934
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 12: Just it's such an individual thing, and uh what a

935
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 12: I don't even know what I was looking at. But

936
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 12: you know, even for that guy to say he underestimated

937
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 12: the heavyweight champ of the world, I think is ridiculous.

938
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 12: And I think what he's actually saying is he overestimated himself.

939
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 12: I just that was to me, that was pretty dismal.

940
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 12: And yet with that being said, at any given point

941
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 12: in time, that guy can't get you out there if

942
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 12: you stand in front of him.

943
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:56,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, Ray, I agree, Man, it's crazy. I think listen,

944
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 7: could he come in better shape?

945
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,840
Speaker 5: Absolutely? But I think two things.

946
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 7: First of all, when you're not used to going to three, four,

947
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 7: five rounds, it's a whole different ballgame. And I think

948
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,240
Speaker 7: it's a blessing and a curse when you finish fights

949
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 7: that early. You think every fight's gonna go that way,

950
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 7: even if you're facing someone like a Steepemachich.

951
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 9: Right exactly. But you have to know that, you know. Look,

952
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 9: it's strange.

953
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,759
Speaker 12: Because I think the word what I was feeling was

954
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 12: cognitive dissonance they call it. It's like his view of

955
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 12: himself in his head is different than what really happened.

956
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 12: And that's where the confusion came. He like you kind

957
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,720
Speaker 12: of what you said. He's used to get what he wants,

958
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 12: So I'm saying, like, I'm not going to train for

959
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:41,760
Speaker 12: this fight because I knock everybody out in the first round.

960
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 12: And if that's the case, then mentally he's really deficient,

961
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 12: because that's not intelligent at all. But I think what

962
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 12: happens is like he had a view of himself of

963
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,760
Speaker 12: killing everybody, and then when he's down on the ground,

964
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 12: he doesn't know what to do. That's a big disconnect in.

965
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 9: His own head. It's short circuited him.

966
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,880
Speaker 12: You could see he just he really had no clue

967
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,359
Speaker 12: as to what was going on at a certain point

968
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 12: in that fight, and.

969
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 9: Really really strange.

970
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 12: I think he was thrown in their way too early,

971
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 12: and you know, it's just how you go into a

972
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 12: heavyweight fight and you know, just gas out like that.

973
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 9: I don't know, it.

974
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 12: Wasn't like they were in a Donnie Brook and they

975
00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 12: were swinging and you know, it.

976
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 9: Was he took a couple of punches.

977
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 12: I think Steve making the miss probably tired him out

978
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 12: more than the shots he landed.

979
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 7: And Ray, you know, this may come off as a

980
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 7: little bit harsh, but I think there's a lot of

981
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 7: tu to this here. If Francis and Gano is in

982
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 7: any other way class maybe like one seventy or below, right,

983
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 7: if he's one hundred and seventy pounds or a lighter

984
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 7: and he comes in with those skills, do you think

985
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 7: he deserves to be in the UFC.

986
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 9: No, definitely not. No, it doesn't sound harsh.

987
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 12: And I think if he's smart, he's gonna listen to

988
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:52,800
Speaker 12: this and he goes back to the drawing board.

989
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:53,439
Speaker 9: And he does it right.

990
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,239
Speaker 12: You know, I think he was surrounded by guys that

991
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 12: were telling him to you know, how good he was

992
00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 12: and how hard he hits, and I don't know, they

993
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 12: seemed like there was just a lack of reality and uh, yeah, no,

994
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 12: that skill set that one seventy is he's not getting

995
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 12: past the local show. I mean, we've seen guys like that.

996
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 12: They come into the gym and I kill everybody as

997
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 12: soon as I hit him. You know, he's you know,

998
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 12: I just hope he's not like mentally that guy. I

999
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 12: hope he's got a fet of people around him that

1000
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 12: are actually training and you know they're doing the right thing.

1001
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 12: But yeah, you're right, it's uh that skill set. I

1002
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 12: mean that, you know, look, even with a shitty skill

1003
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 12: set like that, he still has the ability, because of

1004
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 12: his size, right to knock you.

1005
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 9: Out, which is crazy. I mean, he's swinging from.

1006
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 12: His ass, but he's still you don't want to get

1007
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 12: hit by one of those, you know, So he's got

1008
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,240
Speaker 12: to really go back and regroup.

1009
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 9: And I don't know if you know.

1010
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 12: Like again, listening to him talk, I like, again a

1011
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 12: couple of takeaways. He wasn't putting the blame on anybody,

1012
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 12: which I thought was good. But like again, I'm going

1013
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 12: to fact that he said he underestimated He stayed with that,

1014
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 12: like I'm really interpreted that as he overestimated himself, not

1015
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 12: that he underestimated Steve. But yeah, I do think in

1016
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,919
Speaker 12: his head he thought he was getting steep. He added there,

1017
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 12: and that's not underestimating Steep, that's overestimating what he could do.

1018
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 5: I think that's accurate. But it's like, do you not

1019
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 5: have eight minutes in you?

1020
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 9: Right?

1021
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 5: At least give us eight? Yeah, he only gave us.

1022
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:22,760
Speaker 9: They got that mask on it. It looks like Rocky

1023
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 9: whatever with.

1024
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 12: Him on the great I mean, and you know, and

1025
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,200
Speaker 12: to get in there and do that, I'm like, that's

1026
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 12: the loser to me is whoever was training that guy

1027
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:35,160
Speaker 12: like that?

1028
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 9: That was not good. They had to see that somewhere,

1029
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 9: They had to know that.

1030
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:43,439
Speaker 6: Can you just give me sixty seconds on steep A though?

1031
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 6: Because I know how much you respect him, and I

1032
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 6: know you know him a little bit because of the

1033
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 6: bomb between him and Chris Wadman and John Balante, and

1034
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 6: I just think he deserves mounds of credit for systematically

1035
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 6: just destroying this guy and and you know, beating a

1036
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 6: guy who looked to be one of the more frightening

1037
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 6: heavyweights that any of us had ever seen.

1038
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 12: Exactly, here's a guy that didn't get I don't think

1039
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:07,879
Speaker 12: he got the proper press for this fight they were

1040
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 12: building up and Gano that seemed pretty obvious. Here's a

1041
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 12: guy they should rally behind. He stands for the right things.

1042
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 12: He's Middle America. He's just that hard working, blue collar guy.

1043
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 12: The way this country was built one brick at a time.

1044
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 12: Why you wouldn't get behind this guy is is mind

1045
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 12: boggling to me. The guy's a great dude. You could see,

1046
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 12: you know, you know, he took time to you know,

1047
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 12: the important things where he's having a baby, how exciting

1048
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 12: that is to him.

1049
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 9: And I don't know, I mean to know that guy

1050
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,320
Speaker 9: is to really love him. He's a great dude.

1051
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,759
Speaker 12: He brings such nice energy in his wife's sweet you know,

1052
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 12: he's just got a good thing going on. Man.

1053
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,839
Speaker 9: And like again, you know, ball Aren'te goes out there

1054
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,319
Speaker 9: as far. It's not a huge camp. Marcus does a

1055
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 9: great job. With all of those guys.

1056
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 12: They're never going to get the recognition they deserve for

1057
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 12: whatever stupid reason that is, but they do a great job.

1058
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 12: He's a like again, he's a grind that he's a

1059
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:05,240
Speaker 12: blue collar guy. He was the underdog in that fight,

1060
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 12: you know, because people are out of the fucking mom

1061
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 12: and uh, I don't know.

1062
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's crazy, I don't know. Yeah, just uh you know, based.

1063
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 12: On why you know, based on this is they were

1064
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 12: they were selling another illusion that just got derailed again.

1065
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, I would have loved and I'm prot of the

1066
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 6: sales pitch of course, so I guess guilty at charged,

1067
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 6: But uh, you know, I I wish we had had.

1068
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 9: You on because I missed you. I missed your last week,

1069
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:32,839
Speaker 9: so I didn't I don't even know.

1070
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:36,360
Speaker 5: But well, no, no, no, I mean just in general

1071
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,359
Speaker 5: from from a promotional standpoint, right, I'm the guy who

1072
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 5: after he knocks out over him I'm saying, I'm saying

1073
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 5: aging Steep as trying to to build up the fight.

1074
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 5: But no, your points are well taken, and we last week.

1075
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 9: We all we all buy into it, we all do.

1076
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 6: Well, and and we didn't have you on last week,

1077
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 6: which would have been nice to hear your thoughts in

1078
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:57,439
Speaker 6: advance of this fight.

1079
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,839
Speaker 5: But I digress. I want to get to a few

1080
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 5: other things.

1081
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 6: And by the way, it's nice that that Stepe at

1082
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 6: least has that Modello commercial. Right, I'm not sure if

1083
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 6: the UFC were the ones that put that put that together,

1084
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 6: but now that Modello commercial gets released and he's still

1085
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 6: the champion, right, if I'm not mistaken. When Anthony Pennis

1086
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 6: was on the Wheaties box, by the time the thing

1087
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 6: was on shelves, he no longer had.

1088
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 5: The belt, so that's as good.

1089
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Speaker 6: So the reason we did not have you last week

1090
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 6: was because you were traveling back from Saint Louis. Matt

1091
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 6: the steamroll of Vola fought there. It did not go

1092
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 6: as planned, obviously, it was a one minute fight, a

1093
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 6: knockout loss to Polo reyis your thoughts on what went

1094
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 6: down or didn't go down in the three one four

1095
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 6: a couple of weeks ago.

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Speaker 12: Well, I'll tell you it was certainly an exciting fight

1097
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 12: for the time it lasted. But yeah, just not the

1098
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:48,640
Speaker 12: smartest game plan. We're going to regroup. He's a great kid.

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00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 12: It's his first loss, so you know, I've had some

1100
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 12: nice conversations with him already. I'm really excited to just

1101
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 12: get him back on track because I think he's a

1102
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 12: great kid and he below he deserves it in there

1103
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,520
Speaker 12: and you could see he's a he's bullsy.

1104
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 9: Somebody was going down. It just happened to be him.

1105
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 12: And like again, i'll the game plan that we were

1106
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 12: a little off on a couple of things. That's not

1107
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 12: the smartest fight, but he shows he's got hot and

1108
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 12: he's got balls, and that's a that's a really good

1109
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 12: thing to work with.

1110
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 9: In the future. And I'm excited for him.

1111
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 12: I think he's gonna rebound and you're going to see

1112
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 12: a more intelligent fighter.

1113
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 7: The next time, Ray and one of your guys that

1114
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 7: looks like has a tough fight ahead of him in

1115
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,240
Speaker 7: Paul Felder, Ali Quina Felder in April.

1116
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:34,839
Speaker 5: Is that what's going down in Brooklyn?

1117
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 9: Man, that's what's going down. Man.

1118
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 12: I was with OL last night. That's that's a tough fight.

1119
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 12: But I think that's gonna be a crowd pleaser for everybody.

1120
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 12: Definitely a lot of respect for Felder. Tough as nails,

1121
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:51,600
Speaker 12: great tie boxing, very dangerous. Uh, that's a that's a

1122
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 12: really good fight, man, that's a that's a great fight.

1123
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,359
Speaker 12: I just want to keep Al healthy and get him

1124
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 12: to the fight. That's the most important thing. And uh,

1125
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 12: you know, so far out of the gate, he looks

1126
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,720
Speaker 12: good again. So I'm excited for him, and I think

1127
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 12: he knows he's gonna put on the show and you

1128
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,320
Speaker 12: know it's going to be a great fight for Brooklyn.

1129
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:13,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, just keep him healthy. If you can not push,

1130
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 5: that's good man.

1131
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:16,320
Speaker 9: That's that's the key with everybody at this point.

1132
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:21,200
Speaker 12: You know, let me shout out to DC to another

1133
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 12: guy that I think, what a tough motherfucker this guy is.

1134
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 12: He took some big shots that he's no kid, I

1135
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,960
Speaker 12: think again. He handles himself great on the mic. Yeah,

1136
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:34,239
Speaker 12: you know, let's let's embrace DC. Forget about this other guy.

1137
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 12: I don't care if he takes twenty light to detect

1138
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 12: the test. Who cares at this point?

1139
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what I mean.

1140
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 12: This is a good guy and man, he's just tough

1141
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 12: as nails, and I think he does the right thing.

1142
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 12: He's always complimentary and victory or defeat, I don't know.

1143
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:50,879
Speaker 9: I like the guy.

1144
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 8: Man.

1145
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 12: I thought it was a great fight for him again,

1146
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 12: coming off of what he came off and just all

1147
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 12: the bullshit he's got to deal with with this guy

1148
00:50:58,320 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 12: is just horrible.

1149
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1150
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:02,359
Speaker 6: No, you're right, and I'm glad you had a chance

1151
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 6: to shout him out because he's one of the greatest

1152
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 6: ambassadors this sport has ever seen.

1153
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:07,399
Speaker 5: All Right, I'll let you go with this.

1154
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 6: So John Malante said one of the issues in his

1155
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 6: training camp was that he didn't get to work with

1156
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 6: Chris Wyman essentially at all because of the thumb injury.

1157
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:17,280
Speaker 5: I did get to see Chris. Uh, that's a nasty

1158
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:18,200
Speaker 5: scar on that thumb.

1159
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 8: Ray.

1160
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:22,760
Speaker 12: Yeah, I mean, I mean, for twenty seventeen or eighteen

1161
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 12: doesn't But it was done in seventeen. I mean, have

1162
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:28,319
Speaker 12: you ever seen a scar like that? I do, right

1163
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 12: for Frankenstein.

1164
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 7: Someone took a hatchet and just opened up his thumb

1165
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 7: with you know, I mean, who is.

1166
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:39,879
Speaker 5: This, doctor, Mike ROSKOUTI yes, who is this doctor? Yeah?

1167
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,280
Speaker 9: I don't know. I think his name is doctor Baron

1168
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 9: von Frankenstein. I tell you crazy, what a crazy scar

1169
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 9: that this?

1170
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 5: Yeah? I think what happened is a Bostonian operated on.

1171
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 12: Yeah, Bostonian from seventeen hundred and twenty three. They're still

1172
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 12: using that guy, use that guy's notes in the operating.

1173
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm telling you, well, we we joke about it,

1174
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:07,839
Speaker 6: but we hope he gets better obviously soon. And I

1175
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 6: know you'll have your eyes on JACKA Day, Sosa and

1176
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 6: Derek Brunson this weekend. Potentially an opponent could emerge out

1177
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 6: of that. I think the Jackaday Wideman fight is one

1178
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 6: that the promotion would like to book potentially. All right,

1179
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 6: my man, well we'll let you go, Jack Array Brunton.

1180
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 6: You got any lean either way? So's is like minus

1181
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 6: one seventy five.

1182
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 9: Uh, I'm gonna go with so Soses he's the.

1183
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 5: Favorite, Yeah, slight favorite.

1184
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,399
Speaker 12: I'm gonna go with So I'm gonna go with Jack Array.

1185
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 12: I think he rebounds off and I'm gonna pick Sosa

1186
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 12: in that fight.

1187
00:52:41,880 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 5: All right, man, good to see you, Good to hear

1188
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:45,400
Speaker 5: you have a good week. We'll we'll catch up with

1189
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 5: you next Monday.

1190
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Speaker 9: All right, guys, thanks a lot, man.

1191
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Speaker 8: Thanks right.

1192
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 6: The Ray Longo minute every week here on the Anak

1193
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Speaker 6: and Florian Podcast.

1194
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 5: You knew he was gonna give it to uh to

1195
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 5: Francis and Gano. Pretty good.

1196
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:01,359
Speaker 6: So Longo's got a weekly segment. Brian Stan actually now

1197
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,320
Speaker 6: is on every month. Let's get to take a stand.

1198
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Speaker 4: He's now time to take a stand with the All

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Speaker 4: American and Bran Standing In podcast.

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Speaker 5: That is the great thing I've seen. That's a that's

1201
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:19,240
Speaker 5: an actual picture.

1202
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 7: By the way, if they think that's photoshop, you're wrong.

1203
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:25,840
Speaker 13: You guys can't drop that on me.

1204
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 6: Well and Ben and Danny and Janko, thank you guys

1205
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:33,800
Speaker 6: all for that. Kenny and I had never seen that before,

1206
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 6: so our reaction is as organic as yours.

1207
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 7: Actually, Anik actually did that eagle sound, That screeching eagle

1208
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 7: sound was actually any you.

1209
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Speaker 9: Guys have.

1210
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:46,800
Speaker 13: Photoshot It's ridiculous.

1211
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Speaker 5: Oh well, every time you come on.

1212
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,840
Speaker 6: We're trotting that thing out there, all right, So now

1213
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 6: joining us for his monthly segment, take a stan.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 6: He is not a realtor, folks. Okay, can we just

1216
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:59,240
Speaker 6: get that out there. He is not a real estate agent.

1217
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 6: He is not a real or.

1218
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:03,280
Speaker 5: He is the COO of First Key Holmes LLC. Greatest

1219
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 5: living in America.

1220
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Speaker 6: You aftually veteran former color commentator, Brian Stan Philadelphia Eagles fan.

1221
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:10,959
Speaker 6: It's got to be a pretty good Monday morning walking

1222
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 6: in as the coo. And you're born and raised in Scranton, PA.

1223
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:15,839
Speaker 14: I'll tell you what and when I've got a chief

1224
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 14: technology officer who is relocating for Minneapolis to move to Atlanta,

1225
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 14: and he's a Minnesota Vikings fan, and we've got a

1226
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 14: team dinner tonight and he'll be wearing an Eagles jersey

1227
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 14: at that dinner and I'll be loving.

1228
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Speaker 13: Every second time.

1229
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Speaker 6: All right, Well, I want to table the NFL stuff

1230
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 6: for a second, because I know your time is short

1231
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:34,720
Speaker 6: and I want to make sure we get your thoughts

1232
00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:36,800
Speaker 6: on UFC two twenty. But we are doing a Super

1233
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 6: Bowl bet, as we did last year, So we'll get

1234
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 6: to that in a minute. But what Stepe a Miachich

1235
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:44,800
Speaker 6: was able to accomplish this weekend against Francis and Ganu,

1236
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:46,800
Speaker 6: I mean, what a way to set the record. Really

1237
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 6: a special fighter here and obviously a massive win and

1238
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 6: weekend for Steepe.

1239
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 13: I'll tell you what, it was an exceptional performance.

1240
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,359
Speaker 14: And I think one of the things that maybe got

1241
00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 14: overlooked because there was so much to digest from that

1242
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 14: fight is his ability to not only withstand the damage,

1243
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,760
Speaker 14: but that first round and Ghano used a lot of energy,

1244
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 14: but it also took a lot of Steve Bay's energy.

1245
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 14: And I think the fact that Stepe was able to

1246
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,799
Speaker 14: absorb that, deal with that pace and then start to

1247
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 14: execute takedowns that take a lot of energy on a

1248
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 14: guy as strong as frances and Ganu and just drive

1249
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 14: through for five straight rounds. A guy at that size

1250
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,399
Speaker 14: in this weight division, that's special. It's the reason why

1251
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 14: people can't defend that title. It is exceptionally harder for

1252
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,200
Speaker 14: men of this size to do this sport at the

1253
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 14: elite level. And Steve doesn't have just elite skills, He's

1254
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 14: got an elite level heart where he can push past

1255
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 14: a certain threshold in a state of exhaustion, that is

1256
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:44,320
Speaker 14: going to make him very very difficult to beat going forward.

1257
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Speaker 5: Brian Kundner, Great, you more man.

1258
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 7: Obviously you talked about that title, how hard it is

1259
00:55:49,680 --> 00:55:53,560
Speaker 7: to defend it, even harder to do in the heavyweight division.

1260
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:56,800
Speaker 7: Steve b Miocic the first guy to defend it three times.

1261
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Speaker 7: If he never fights Kane Velaskiz, is he the greatest

1262
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:01,879
Speaker 7: heavyweight fighter of all time?

1263
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 8: I think so?

1264
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 14: Yeah, absolutely, you know he's he's beaten Junior Dosantos, who

1265
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 14: owns a win over Kane Alaskas, and he's beaten him,

1266
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 14: and you know, in their first fight, a lot of

1267
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 14: people argued that he beat him.

1268
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 13: He's beaten greats like Mark Hunt.

1269
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 14: I think when you look at the body of work

1270
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:20,360
Speaker 14: that Stepdey has done, he's been the most well rounded, athletic,

1271
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:23,200
Speaker 14: find a way to beat you going around your strength

1272
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,319
Speaker 14: or through your strength type of guy.

1273
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:27,800
Speaker 13: And he's got exceptional athleticism. Cardio.

1274
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 14: Not to mention the fact he's done all of this

1275
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 14: with a full time job. People don't like us to

1276
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:34,760
Speaker 14: talk about this. Yeah, when we're actually working for the UFC.

1277
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 5: It's amazing.

1278
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 14: He's done this with a full time job as a firefighter.

1279
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:39,839
Speaker 13: Look sign me up.

1280
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 14: If my family is burning in and building a house,

1281
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:43,360
Speaker 14: I don't care anybody.

1282
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:46,440
Speaker 13: Please let step Day be the guy that comes rolling.

1283
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 9: Along to help them.

1284
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:47,839
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1285
00:56:47,880 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 6: Well, it's funny because I did ask him on Thursday.

1286
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 6: I was like, dude, how many shifts are you working

1287
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 6: at the fight apartment every week?

1288
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:53,880
Speaker 5: You know?

1289
00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 6: And he didn't give me a straight answer necessarily, but

1290
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 6: he has shaved down that schedule thankfully. So as we

1291
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 6: spin it forward for steep A, and I think historically

1292
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 6: it is a little bit difficult to put him into context.

1293
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,640
Speaker 6: I would say Kane was always like a bigger betting favorite,

1294
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 6: and I feel like people always felt like Kane Velasquez

1295
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 6: beating him was just this daunting task, whereas maybe people

1296
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 6: don't feel that way about step A. But do you

1297
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 6: feel like Daniel Cormier moving up is the next fight?

1298
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 6: Do you feel like Kane Velasquez is the next fight?

1299
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 6: What do you think will be this fourth defense here

1300
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 6: for Steepe?

1301
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 13: I think it's gonna end up being Kane.

1302
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 14: And I think the reason why people can't viewed Kane

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Speaker 14: in that light is just we had never seen a

1304
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Speaker 14: heavyweight do some of the things that Kane Velasquez was

1305
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Speaker 14: able to do at the pace he was able to

1306
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Speaker 14: do him. I mean, he had a couple of performances

1307
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:46,480
Speaker 14: that were exceptional performances, historical performances for a heavyweight. You know,

1308
00:57:46,520 --> 00:57:48,959
Speaker 14: his fight against Junior Dosanto's to do what he did,

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00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 14: you know, that was probably a more overall impressive performance

1310
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 14: than maybe one single performance we've seen from Steve Bay.

1311
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:59,920
Speaker 14: But Stepe's consistency and his growth and his ability to

1312
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 14: not be injured as often as Kane has and then

1313
00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 14: have performances like we saw Kane have against Berdoma in

1314
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 14: Mexico City, that's what makes step Ba the better guy

1315
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 14: in my opinion, and that's why I think he'll be

1316
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 14: a betting favorite against Kane. Glaskas now erased all of that.

1317
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 14: If Daniel Cormier chooses to move up a weight division,

1318
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 14: he can win that fight. Yeah, I do believe that,

1319
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:27,120
Speaker 14: and Steve a can as well. But boy, I would

1320
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Speaker 14: think that Daniel Cormier may even be a favorite in

1321
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 14: that fight because he fought so well against heavyweights when

1322
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:36,840
Speaker 14: he really didn't know much about this sport.

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Speaker 5: Right, that's a good point. Thirteen to zero as a heavyweight.

1324
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 6: Was Daniel Cormier before moving down all right, final thing

1325
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 6: on UFC two to twenty. Then, in terms of DC's

1326
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 6: win over Volcanoes Demir, I mean, man, did he smash

1327
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 6: this guy? And he probably said four hundred times during

1328
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 6: fight week, dude, I'm just gonna smash this guy.

1329
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 5: He went out and did exactly that.

1330
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 6: I guess he picked the right fight bride to have

1331
00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 6: his kids in the crowd, for he really did.

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Speaker 14: I thought that mid round one, when DC abandoned his

1333
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 14: clench first strategy and he just went to straight kickboxing,

1334
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 14: I thought he looked phenomenal and I thought he showed

1335
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 14: an out kickbox vulcan Usdemir. The the spiraling, the spiraling

1336
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 14: downward for Vulcan happened after Daniel rocked him on the

1337
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 14: feet with kickboxing and then went to his wrestling, which

1338
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 14: was smart. Right finish him on the ground, avoid taking

1339
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 14: those big shots because some of those shots an inch

1340
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 14: or two left to right could have really hurt DC.

1341
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 14: But I think that it was overlooked how good Daniel

1342
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:34,160
Speaker 14: Cormier's striking has gotten. And if you go back and

1343
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 14: look at his last fight against John Jones, in those

1344
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 14: first couple of rounds, you know they were close rounds,

1345
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 14: but you could see some marked improvement and Daniel Cormier's

1346
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 14: ability to close distance put together combinations utilize kicks, land

1347
00:59:46,760 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 14: big right hands and left hooks that are really going

1348
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 14: to be interesting if he does rematch with Alexander Gustisson,

1349
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 14: who put forth one of the most beautiful striking performances

1350
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 14: in light heavyweight history against Glover to SHERA. That is

1351
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 14: a fun aspect DC's game that has significantly improved since

1352
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 14: they fought the first time.

1353
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, very interesting.

1354
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:08,439
Speaker 6: I did speak with DC this morning and we talked

1355
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 6: a little bit about what's a tougher fight for him,

1356
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 6: step A or Alexander Gustafson, and we talked about a

1357
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 6: little bit off the top of the show. But all right,

1358
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 6: I want to table that for a second and get

1359
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:18,440
Speaker 6: to the super Bowl stuff before we let you get

1360
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 6: back to the primary gig. By the way, finals are

1361
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 6: in the can, right, I know you're chasing that executive MBA.

1362
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 5: I couldn't pass those tests. How were final exams? Okay?

1363
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 8: For you?

1364
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 13: It was a challenge, right.

1365
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 14: There's a lot of people in my cohort who they

1366
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 14: have jobs that don't require as many hours as mine do.

1367
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 5: Right now, Yeah, and.

1368
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:44,080
Speaker 14: So taking finals and finance, accounting, statistics, marketing, there's a

1369
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:46,959
Speaker 14: lot of quant style finals that I had to take.

1370
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Speaker 14: And look, they're ongoing right I'm already in four new

1371
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:54,360
Speaker 14: classes right now. And it has been challenging, it's been enlightening,

1372
01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 14: it's been humbling, and I'm working with people from around

1373
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 14: the globe to where I'm learning and double amount about myself,

1374
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 14: about business, about marketing, about accounting and finance in areas

1375
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 14: that I really I wanted to grow in. And so

1376
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 14: it has been. It's been worth every penny and every

1377
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 14: minute of time so far. But it is definitely not

1378
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 14: without its challenges.

1379
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:18,480
Speaker 6: And he does all of this without the benefit of

1380
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:21,760
Speaker 6: Adderall ladies and gentlemen, it is absolutely incredible. All Right,

1381
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 6: I'll let you get out of here on this. Kenny's like,

1382
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 6: what are you doing? You're trying to get a thrown

1383
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:27,360
Speaker 6: off fox, you fucking idiot. All right, final thing, because

1384
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:29,800
Speaker 6: I know you have to go the last Pro Football

1385
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:33,600
Speaker 6: championship in Philadelphia in nineteen sixty. I know the Phillies

1386
01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 6: won a World Series title in two thousand and eight.

1387
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:37,800
Speaker 5: I don't know how much of that. Move your needle.

1388
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:41,840
Speaker 6: What would this mean for the city to exact some

1389
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 6: revenge for that two thousand and four Super Bowl to

1390
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 6: beat Brady and Belichick and parade on Broad Street and

1391
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:49,880
Speaker 6: everywhere else there in downtown Philly.

1392
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 13: Man, Look, here's what it means.

1393
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 14: You know for the city, it would be huge, right,

1394
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 14: I don't live there, not going to pretend like I

1395
01:01:56,880 --> 01:02:00,200
Speaker 14: do for me personally, as as a man who was

1396
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 14: sat in a million Buffalo wild wings amongst them noxious

1397
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 14: fans to watch one screen and beg them to show

1398
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 14: the Eagles game, who has watched every down of every

1399
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 14: game outside of the season that I was in Iraq for,

1400
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:17,919
Speaker 14: I will, honestly, God, I will shed tears if they're

1401
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:20,920
Speaker 14: able to win this Super Bowl. I will cry. And

1402
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 14: you know another piece to it was, you know, Travis Mannon,

1403
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 14: who is one of my closest friends in the world

1404
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:28,439
Speaker 14: who has killed in Fellujah, was a.

1405
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 13: Huge, huge Eagles fan, and so it'll be you know,

1406
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 13: it'd be one of those things that's pretty sentimental.

1407
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 14: And you know, in the back of my mind as well,

1408
01:02:35,200 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 14: he's not here to watch this, but if he's got

1409
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 14: any sway with the Big Man, because I feel like

1410
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:42,840
Speaker 14: the Big Man is very much still making us pay

1411
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 14: for what we did to Santa Claus.

1412
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 13: And so I'm hoping that Travis can maybe.

1413
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 14: Sway his opinion a little bit. I mean, we already

1414
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 14: lost Jason Peters, we've lost Carson Wentz.

1415
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 13: Enough give us a break.

1416
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:57,560
Speaker 14: Tom Brady's life is the most perfect life that's ever

1417
01:02:57,600 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 14: existed on this planet.

1418
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 13: Can he have one bad day? Please? One bad day?

1419
01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:03,120
Speaker 13: It's all amass?

1420
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1421
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 6: All right, well, well maybe it'll be February fourth. And

1422
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:08,960
Speaker 6: if you do have suggestions, yeah, Ken flor and I

1423
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 6: don't hoping that doesn't happen. If you have suggestions for

1424
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:13,760
Speaker 6: what our super Bowl bet should be, many of you

1425
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:16,439
Speaker 6: will remember Stan was brought in by Dan Quinn, head

1426
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:18,480
Speaker 6: coach of the Atlanta Falcons, a couple of seasons ago,

1427
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 6: to be a coach, so he does have some Falcons

1428
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 6: fan in there. So we did a Super Bowl bet

1429
01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 6: last year. Brian had to get his legs waxed and

1430
01:03:25,240 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 6: he did make good on that bet. So if you

1431
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 6: have suggestions for the twenty eighteen bet, here Eagles are

1432
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:32,920
Speaker 6: getting five and a half points here, Brian, we got

1433
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:35,000
Speaker 6: to get creative here for the twenty eighteen version.

1434
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 14: So I thought about one thing, and it's a horrible

1435
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 14: idea because I seem to lose all my bets with you.

1436
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 13: I thought about an earring.

1437
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:46,640
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, really man.

1438
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 14: Right, who bets something as extreme as an earring when

1439
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 14: they're going against Tom Brady. But I want to dwell

1440
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 14: on that a little bit. I'd love to get some

1441
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 14: suggestions from the fans on what our bets should be,

1442
01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 14: because you know, I'm trying to run a pretty prestigious

1443
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 14: company here. Me walking in here with an earring's gonna

1444
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 14: be a real dent in my brain.

1445
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:05,560
Speaker 5: Brian.

1446
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 7: How about a hoop a hoop earring? I once like

1447
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:10,600
Speaker 7: a pirate that just count I would be great.

1448
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:12,400
Speaker 13: If we're gonna do it, it's gonna be the eighties

1449
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:13,360
Speaker 13: hanging cross like.

1450
01:04:13,360 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 7: We're going the feather, the long feather, like mister t Yes,

1451
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 7: thank you, great idea. I think we should have to

1452
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:25,800
Speaker 7: get both ears pierced and keep them in for two weeks.

1453
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:28,520
Speaker 7: I can't, you know, Craig war Sorry, ain't letting me

1454
01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 7: wear them on TV. But I think there's something here, Brian.

1455
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 7: So we'll uh continue the discussion off the air. But

1456
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:36,200
Speaker 7: you brought a lot to the table here today. I

1457
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 7: think this is what we're gonna do. We're gonna do.

1458
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 5: Uh, We're gonna the loser's gonna have to get his

1459
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 5: ears pierced.

1460
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:44,280
Speaker 13: Both my gos.

1461
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 6: Hey, thank you for the time, man, and and and

1462
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 6: for you and everybody else in Philadelphia, Eagles Land. Congratulations

1463
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:52,200
Speaker 6: and we wish you all the best against TV twelve

1464
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:52,919
Speaker 6: in two weeks.

1465
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:54,320
Speaker 5: Buddy, have a good week, all right.

1466
01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:55,440
Speaker 13: Guys, have a great one.

1467
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:55,919
Speaker 5: Thanks Dan.

1468
01:04:56,640 --> 01:04:59,120
Speaker 6: You know, are a lot of different ways you can

1469
01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:02,320
Speaker 6: go Kenny with these super Bowl bets and other bets.

1470
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 6: You know, he and I had a bet on the

1471
01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 6: Holly Home betch Kohea fight right. I said, Hollywood get

1472
01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 6: the finish. He said it wouldn't. And I think he

1473
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 6: was supposed to like grow a mustache for a month.

1474
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:13,280
Speaker 6: He didn't even make good on that one. Yeah, but

1475
01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:16,840
Speaker 6: I think loser gets their ears pierced and has to

1476
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 6: rock him out for a couple of weeks is a

1477
01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 6: good bet.

1478
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 5: That's a solid bet.

1479
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 7: First of all, I'm impressed that he actually went that route,

1480
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:26,040
Speaker 7: that he went that far.

1481
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 5: That's a lot. There's a lot on the line here, John,

1482
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 5: I like it, man.

1483
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Speaker 7: But if you have like a little like a little

1484
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:34,880
Speaker 7: stud that you can barely see I mean, I think

1485
01:05:34,920 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 7: you can pull it off myself.

1486
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:40,240
Speaker 6: I think that's a right good stuff there from from

1487
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Speaker 6: North Carolina. Let's make some picks.

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Speaker 4: It's the Main Event Challenge and the.

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Speaker 6: Time is most definitely Brory.

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Speaker 6: All right, first we will update the standings. As many

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01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 6: of you know, Team Annik prioritize getting off to a

1519
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:14,600
Speaker 6: good start here in twenty eighteen, We're not fucking around,

1520
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 6: Ken Flow. You went head to head with Oddshark dot

1521
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:20,760
Speaker 6: COM's Justin Hartling, so you both hit on Cormier, both

1522
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 6: hit on Valonte, both missed on Inganu and Almeida. Justin

1523
01:07:25,040 --> 01:07:27,600
Speaker 6: did come through though, with his underdog pick on Calvin

1524
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:29,280
Speaker 6: Cater at plus one eighty five.

1525
01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 5: So Team Annik.

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01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:34,600
Speaker 6: Takes the week four two precisely the start we're looking for.

1527
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:38,560
Speaker 6: Ken So, I know you you've erased deficits in the past,

1528
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:41,600
Speaker 6: so but four two Team Annik and with us to

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01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:45,840
Speaker 6: make picks today representing Julio Jakobo and the weed zillions

1530
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 6: there in southern California.

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01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:50,280
Speaker 5: Paul O'Neill is with us, Paulie, Can I call you Paulie?

1532
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 3: You can call me whatever you like at this point.

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01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:56,880
Speaker 5: Look at that picture, but.

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01:07:59,120 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 3: How are you doing it?

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01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:01,800
Speaker 5: We are doing well.

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01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:04,880
Speaker 6: Our listeners unfortunately couldn't see that picture of you holding

1537
01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:07,000
Speaker 6: a cat and a number of other different things. But

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01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 6: it's good to have you with us as we get

1539
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:13,320
Speaker 6: to these predictions for Fox UFC Fight Night in Charlotte.

1540
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:15,760
Speaker 6: By the way, I know you and Julio Hakobo, I

1541
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:17,960
Speaker 6: guess our friends. For many of our listeners who go

1542
01:08:18,040 --> 01:08:20,599
Speaker 6: back to our first year, Julio was on the show

1543
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 6: a lot, you know, breaking our stones and making picks,

1544
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:25,759
Speaker 6: but he had some health issues.

1545
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:26,880
Speaker 5: How is Julio doing.

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01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 3: Paul Julio unfortunately had a lot of really serious complications

1547
01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:35,160
Speaker 3: to a surgery, and I can I'm please the report

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01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:39,280
Speaker 3: that he's making a lot of really great recovery. Last

1549
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:41,559
Speaker 3: I heard a couple of weeks ago, he was hanging

1550
01:08:41,560 --> 01:08:44,679
Speaker 3: out with my friend Xavier and a fellow week Zillion,

1551
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:48,840
Speaker 3: So you know he's staying in with the crew, and

1552
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 3: he's doing a lot better.

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01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:54,080
Speaker 5: All right, Well, please send him our best if you would.

1554
01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:57,080
Speaker 5: We will get to the picture now. The main card,

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01:08:57,680 --> 01:09:02,879
Speaker 5: Ken Flow main card Big Fox features your boy, Jordan Rinaldi. Huh, Yes, Ronaldi.

1556
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:05,400
Speaker 7: I trained with him in at fifty to fifty at

1557
01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 7: Ryan Hall's place. A good kid man, hard worker. He's

1558
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:10,760
Speaker 7: got a tough fight ahead of him, but I think

1559
01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:11,719
Speaker 7: it's gonna be a fun one.

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01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:13,439
Speaker 5: Yeah. I was gonna say, they're not doing him any

1561
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:14,240
Speaker 5: fucking famous here.

1562
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:17,280
Speaker 6: He's a plus three seventy five underdog against Gregor Gillespie.

1563
01:09:17,360 --> 01:09:22,080
Speaker 6: Gillespie sitting as a minus five fifty favorite, largely because

1564
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:23,960
Speaker 6: he is ten and zero overall, three and zero in

1565
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:26,880
Speaker 6: the UFC. He's finished his last two wins and eight

1566
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:28,720
Speaker 6: of his ten wins overall. On the other side, you

1567
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:32,479
Speaker 6: have Rinaldi thirteen and five submitted Albaro Herrera with a

1568
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:35,880
Speaker 6: von flu in his last fight that was in August. Paul,

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01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:39,200
Speaker 6: which way you go in here, Gillespie or Rinaldi.

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01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:42,320
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I think it's gonna be a really

1571
01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:44,800
Speaker 3: great fight, but I'm just gonna have to go with

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01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:47,800
Speaker 3: Gillespie here, you know, He's showed a lot of heart

1573
01:09:47,840 --> 01:09:51,000
Speaker 3: in his last fight against Jason Gundalas that was a

1574
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 3: real barn bear, but before that he's just been tearing

1575
01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:57,200
Speaker 3: guys apart. And I feel like, you know, Jordan Andaldi's

1576
01:09:57,200 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 3: gonna put up a great fight. I feel like it's

1577
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:02,599
Speaker 3: gonna be a great show, but ultimately I have Gregor

1578
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 3: Gillespie winning.

1579
01:10:04,320 --> 01:10:06,519
Speaker 5: Kenny. Gregor Gillespie.

1580
01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:10,040
Speaker 6: Has really been great in the UFC, and I think

1581
01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:12,559
Speaker 6: he's a guy that a lot of people fancy a

1582
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:15,840
Speaker 6: future contender. He is a problem. That is why the

1583
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:18,439
Speaker 6: betting betting line is what it is. But in our

1584
01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:22,120
Speaker 6: scoring system, you picked Jordan Ronaldi and he wins, you

1585
01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:24,800
Speaker 6: get four points. You know the guy you've trained with,

1586
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:26,840
Speaker 6: the guy. Does that entice you at all?

1587
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 5: You know, this is a tough matchup for Ernaldi.

1588
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:33,160
Speaker 7: He who also has a decent wrestling background, but certainly

1589
01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:34,880
Speaker 7: not at the level of a Gregor Gillespie.

1590
01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:37,479
Speaker 5: Gillespie is a monster of a wrestler.

1591
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:41,360
Speaker 7: Also can really crack as well, has power in both

1592
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:44,800
Speaker 7: of his hands. I'm a little concerned for Jordan in

1593
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:47,479
Speaker 7: this fight. But you know what, Gillespie, he gets a

1594
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:50,479
Speaker 7: little reckless sometimes he showed that recklessness a little bit

1595
01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:53,439
Speaker 7: in his last fight, still got the win. But I'm

1596
01:10:53,439 --> 01:10:55,680
Speaker 7: gonna stick with my guy, Jordan Ronaldi. I think he

1597
01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:57,439
Speaker 7: pulls off an opposeet win man, and I think he

1598
01:10:57,479 --> 01:10:58,360
Speaker 7: gives me four points.

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Speaker 5: How's that?

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01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:01,240
Speaker 6: Well, that's the thing, man, is like, I'm not in

1601
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:04,400
Speaker 6: this contest, right, I send representatives out there for me.

1602
01:11:04,520 --> 01:11:06,320
Speaker 5: But to me, it's like you get one.

1603
01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:09,000
Speaker 6: But you know this early in the year, right, when

1604
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 6: you have underdogs at that price, the way our scoring

1605
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:13,720
Speaker 6: system works, a flyer you do a lot worse than

1606
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 6: a flyer on Jordan Ronaldi.

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01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:16,320
Speaker 5: All right, comin event, guys.

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01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:18,920
Speaker 6: So Dennis Bermudez has dropped two fights in a row

1609
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 6: now because of that, he's only a minus one fifty

1610
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:24,640
Speaker 6: five favorite against the unranked Andre Pheley. Philly has been

1611
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:26,000
Speaker 6: up and down a little bit, but when he's on,

1612
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:28,519
Speaker 6: he's very good. Look quite good, I thought against Artem

1613
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:31,679
Speaker 6: Labov his last time out in October. So colemyane event

1614
01:11:31,720 --> 01:11:35,120
Speaker 6: here Bermudez and Pheely PAULI which way you going?

1615
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:36,960
Speaker 9: Well?

1616
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:39,639
Speaker 3: Like you mentioned andre Phele's coming off will win against

1617
01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:43,479
Speaker 3: the greatest of all time against arm Laba. But you

1618
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:46,880
Speaker 3: know it's a matter of who shows up. You know,

1619
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:49,360
Speaker 3: both guys are released, you know, kind of struggling to

1620
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:53,439
Speaker 3: find a level of consistency. I think that, you know,

1621
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:58,040
Speaker 3: Phelei's got a really large reach advantage over Dennis Bermudez,

1622
01:11:58,080 --> 01:11:59,559
Speaker 3: and I think that's going to be hard for Dennis

1623
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:03,080
Speaker 3: to cover. I've got Peely by.

1624
01:12:02,960 --> 01:12:07,880
Speaker 5: This, all right. Paul goes with Andre Pheeley. Dennis Bermudez. Kenny.

1625
01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:11,240
Speaker 6: When he's been in big spots before the Ricardo Lamas fight,

1626
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:13,599
Speaker 6: the main event against the Korean Zombie, the recent fight

1627
01:12:13,600 --> 01:12:16,160
Speaker 6: against Darren Elkins, he's come up short. He's also had

1628
01:12:16,200 --> 01:12:18,680
Speaker 6: a lot of big moments, but another showcase spot for

1629
01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 6: him here. This is a fight on paper that many

1630
01:12:21,080 --> 01:12:23,639
Speaker 6: people believe he should win, and if he's ever gonna

1631
01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:25,439
Speaker 6: get to that title fight, this is one he's got

1632
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:28,040
Speaker 6: to have. The question is in your mind, does Dennis

1633
01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 6: Bermudez get it this weekend?

1634
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:33,200
Speaker 5: This is a tricky one man. Andre Philly is very good.

1635
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:36,519
Speaker 7: He has a very good skill set right now, has

1636
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:39,640
Speaker 7: some nice momentum where Dennis Bermudez does not really have

1637
01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 7: a whole lot of.

1638
01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:41,200
Speaker 5: Momentum right now.

1639
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:44,800
Speaker 7: However, Pheely isn't a better wrest than than Bermudez, And

1640
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:47,840
Speaker 7: I don't think he hits harder than Bermudaz. He's not

1641
01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:51,880
Speaker 7: that guy who's got one one punch knockout power or

1642
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:52,639
Speaker 7: anything like that.

1643
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:54,760
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with Bermudez. I think he gets it

1644
01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:56,360
Speaker 5: done by decision, all right?

1645
01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:59,040
Speaker 6: Then the main event on Fox this weekend eight pm

1646
01:12:59,080 --> 01:13:02,280
Speaker 6: Eastern five Pacific. JACKA Day So's a minus one sixty

1647
01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:05,479
Speaker 6: five Derek Brunson a plus one thirty five. This is

1648
01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:08,360
Speaker 6: a rematch of a fight in twenty twelve. That fight

1649
01:13:08,439 --> 01:13:11,759
Speaker 6: lasted forty one seconds. Shaka Day knocked Derek Brunson out quickly.

1650
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:14,840
Speaker 6: Both of these guys are totally different fighters, both much

1651
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:18,440
Speaker 6: improved strikers. Derek Brunson, I would submit, is a completely

1652
01:13:18,479 --> 01:13:21,400
Speaker 6: different guy than he was for the first meeting. And

1653
01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:23,240
Speaker 6: this is the main event obviously, so we will need

1654
01:13:23,240 --> 01:13:24,960
Speaker 6: the round and the method of victory.

1655
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:27,400
Speaker 5: Paul who gets it done on Big Fox this weekend?

1656
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:30,240
Speaker 5: JACKA Da Soza or dB Derek Brunson?

1657
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:34,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, well you you said it. He's a totally different

1658
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:38,439
Speaker 3: fighter in Derek Brunson. I'm excited as help for all

1659
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:43,680
Speaker 3: for this rematch. I think that. You know, it's a

1660
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:50,759
Speaker 3: good matchup against Jackaray. You know, he suffered against Robert Whaker,

1661
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:54,040
Speaker 3: who was a good striker. I think Derek brunson striking

1662
01:13:54,120 --> 01:13:58,040
Speaker 3: has improved tremendously and he has a very solid wrestling

1663
01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:02,519
Speaker 3: game that he's shown against guys like Joel Romero and

1664
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:05,519
Speaker 3: things like that. But unfortunately, I think I'm gonna have

1665
01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:07,920
Speaker 3: to go with his Jacques Ay Susa in round number

1666
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:11,120
Speaker 3: two by submission, just given the fact that he's still

1667
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:12,400
Speaker 3: accomplished on the ground.

1668
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:16,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, Jakata somewhat of the forgotten man after that Whittaker fight,

1669
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:18,800
Speaker 6: but still a guy who I think at one point

1670
01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:22,839
Speaker 6: is gonna challenge for that UFC title. Jakaa by submission

1671
01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:24,840
Speaker 6: Round two for Paul Kenny. Your thoughts on the main

1672
01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:26,240
Speaker 6: event here coming up in Charlotte.

1673
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:28,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, and here's the thing, you know, people forget Jock

1674
01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:31,880
Speaker 7: Ray Sosa was heading into that fight against Robert Whittaker

1675
01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:36,439
Speaker 7: with the torn peck, so that was something that was

1676
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:39,559
Speaker 7: very tough to deal with. I've been a huge Jack

1677
01:14:39,640 --> 01:14:42,599
Speaker 7: Rays as a fan for a long time. I've seen

1678
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:44,719
Speaker 7: him compete since he was a purple belt in Brazilian

1679
01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:46,680
Speaker 7: Jiu jitsu. He was a beast back then, he's a

1680
01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 7: beast now. He recently moved to Orlando, and I don't

1681
01:14:50,479 --> 01:14:53,480
Speaker 7: know what his training is like. That kind of concerns

1682
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:57,559
Speaker 7: me a little bit. Derek Brunson is very motivated heading

1683
01:14:57,640 --> 01:15:00,200
Speaker 7: this fight. I think he has the wrestling skills to

1684
01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:05,479
Speaker 7: stop those takedowns of Jockaray Soza.

1685
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:09,000
Speaker 5: I think he's maybe a little bit more dangerous on

1686
01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 5: the feet.

1687
01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:12,800
Speaker 7: Jockeray can crack as well, but I think Brunson is

1688
01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:15,080
Speaker 7: feeling it right now when it comes to his striking game.

1689
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:18,200
Speaker 7: I think he's gonna fight smart here, and he absolutely should.

1690
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:21,479
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with Brunton. I think Brunson gets it done.

1691
01:15:22,360 --> 01:15:26,800
Speaker 7: It's rare that I ever pick again Jackeray, but I

1692
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:29,920
Speaker 7: think dB and his momentum and his striking is gonna

1693
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:30,760
Speaker 7: be the difference.

1694
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:33,320
Speaker 6: Here, and the Brazilian jiu jitsu community is gonna be

1695
01:15:33,320 --> 01:15:35,800
Speaker 6: all over to Oh yeah, it's in the interwebs. Uh,

1696
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:39,160
Speaker 6: you got a method in around for Derek Brunson.

1697
01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:41,559
Speaker 5: Let's go with third round TKO.

1698
01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:45,719
Speaker 6: Third round TKO for Derek Brunson. And I would also

1699
01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:49,200
Speaker 6: say Derek Brunson has really found a comfort zone when

1700
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:51,800
Speaker 6: it comes to his training, right, he stays in North Carolina,

1701
01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:54,719
Speaker 6: doesn't go to Albuquerque, New Mexico anymore. But Greg Jackson

1702
01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:56,439
Speaker 6: and the crew still does corner him at times. I

1703
01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:57,920
Speaker 6: don't know if they did in their last fight, but

1704
01:15:58,120 --> 01:16:00,960
Speaker 6: this guy knows exactly what he needs to do, as

1705
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:04,240
Speaker 6: motivated an athlete as anyone out there. So I'm excited

1706
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:06,599
Speaker 6: to see this main event this weekend on Fox. Finally,

1707
01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:10,280
Speaker 6: Paul quick pick, no analysis needed, Drew Dober minus one

1708
01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:14,639
Speaker 6: seventy five against the plus one forty five underdog Frank Camacho.

1709
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:15,200
Speaker 5: Who will it be?

1710
01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:16,720
Speaker 12: Uh?

1711
01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:18,760
Speaker 3: You know what, I think I'm gonna just flat out

1712
01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:22,439
Speaker 3: go with Frank Camacho on this one. It's exciting fight,

1713
01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:25,080
Speaker 3: but I think it's going to the Camacho all right.

1714
01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:27,680
Speaker 5: He takes the underdog can flow Dober Camacho. Who's the

1715
01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:30,960
Speaker 5: pick to click? Geez, I'm gonna a'll go with Dover here.

1716
01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 5: I think he gets it done all right? All right?

1717
01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:36,240
Speaker 6: That does it for the Charlotte picks. Paul O'Neal kid

1718
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:38,519
Speaker 6: drop the cat man. That's a crazy photo.

1719
01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:41,480
Speaker 3: Hey, I'm gonna go pick up that cat.

1720
01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:43,320
Speaker 5: Alright man.

1721
01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:45,240
Speaker 6: Hey, thanks for the time. All the best to you

1722
01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:48,080
Speaker 6: to Julio the Weedszillions. Thank you for joining us today.

1723
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:50,960
Speaker 3: Hey, thanks for having me, guys, and we'd like to

1724
01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:54,240
Speaker 3: invite you to join the weed Zillions gang. It's like

1725
01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:56,519
Speaker 3: a gang initiation, but we just get you higher than

1726
01:16:56,560 --> 01:16:57,480
Speaker 3: even more comfortable.

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Speaker 6: Next time in California. Kenny will be over this afternoon

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Speaker 6: and we'll see.

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Speaker 9: We'll make you.

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Speaker 5: Have a good week.

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Speaker 8: Hey, have a good day, guys.

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Speaker 6: I didn't know we had to be initiated. I thought

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Speaker 6: we were already in yeah, a little.

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Speaker 5: Did they know you'll go over there and smoke them

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Speaker 5: under the table. They have no idea. I just might.

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Speaker 5: You just never know. The lungs are feeling pretty good

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Speaker 5: today on a Monday.

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Speaker 6: You never know, all right, We got to get the

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Speaker 6: hell out of here before we get in any more trouble.

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Speaker 6: Thank you to our guest Brian Stan, Calvin Cater, Ray Longo,

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Speaker 6: Paul O'Neil on the Picks. Next week we will do

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Speaker 6: a little bit of Super Bowl stuff off the top

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Speaker 6: of the show. I know this is not an NFL podcast,

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Speaker 6: but Paul Felder is going to join us. We'll talk

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Speaker 6: a little bit, obviously about the Brazil Show, The Charlotte show,

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Speaker 6: Kenny's going to give you picks on UFC Fight Night,

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Speaker 6: MACHEEDAH versus Anders uh, and everything else that we can

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Speaker 6: think of until then for the flow for the whole

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Speaker 6: Fox crew. John Annick here saying thank you all for

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Speaker 6: listening until next Monday. Two final words you'll.

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