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Speaker 2: Welcome back in to Fox Football Saturday. I'm carniv itally.

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Speaker 2: I'm in for Alex Curry, who's on vacation. I have

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Speaker 2: Oh my god. If you guys don't know, we're gonna

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Speaker 2: get to it. My Arizona State Sun Devils playoff bound

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Speaker 2: Big Twelve champions the first year in the conference. Tracy,

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Speaker 2: if you would have told me this at the beginning

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Speaker 2: I would have laughed in your face. There's no way

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Speaker 2: I cannot believe it. We're gonna get to it. We

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Speaker 2: have so much stuff to get into today. We've got

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Speaker 2: Producer Martin Weiss is at the news desk. We have

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Speaker 2: NFL playoff scenarios eating up. I've got a couple teams

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Speaker 2: and we're gonna get real nerdy with some analytics conversation.

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Speaker 2: Well done, well done. All right, I mentioned we're gonna

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Speaker 2: get nerdy, but before we do all that, I need

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Speaker 2: to get back to what you just congratulated me with.

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Speaker 2: Off the top of the show. It is championship weekend

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Speaker 2: in college football, so we've got a ton of stuff

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Speaker 2: going on. Namely, yes, the sun Devils just punched their

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Speaker 2: ticket to the playoff. They will given that they're a

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Speaker 2: conference champion. They will be one of the top seeds,

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Speaker 2: but that doesn't guarantee them a bye. However, the absolute

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Speaker 2: hurt and they just put on Iowa State. They had

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Speaker 2: the Cyclones in a blender they did.

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Speaker 3: It was literally very ugly.

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Speaker 2: They were going for style points, and they've been going

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Speaker 2: for style points all season long, which is why I

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Speaker 2: love Kenny Dillingham, their head coach so much. Like against

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Speaker 2: Arizona in the Territorial Cup rivalry, which is a huge rivalry,

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Speaker 2: oldest rivalry in college football with the trophy by the way,

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Speaker 2: they showed absolutely no mercy. They kept running up the score,

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Speaker 2: and to me, that's what college football is all about.

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Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, So.

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Speaker 2: I really think that they have a case. The team

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Speaker 2: that could get the buy over them is Boise State. Okay,

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Speaker 2: but Boise State had trouble with the number twenty five

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Speaker 3: That's true.

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Speaker 2: So I have to think that after that performance by

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Speaker 2: the ASU Sun Devils and Jerry World for the whole

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Speaker 2: nation to see the first game of this championship Saturday,

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Speaker 2: you can't. You can't deny them what is rightfully theirs.

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Speaker 3: No, you cannot, and I am going to support you

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Speaker 4: I do not want to deny them what is rightfully

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Speaker 4: theirs in the Brandon I Yuks versus the brock Berties, right,

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Speaker 4: Brandon I Yuk should not be denied the bye What

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Speaker 2: Little way for you to tie this into the forty

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Speaker 3: Else, I am a professional.

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Speaker 2: That's true. You are what real quick. Camp's Kataboom phenomenal

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Speaker 2: player deserves an invitation to New York for that Heisman ceremony,

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Speaker 2: deserves Heisman consideration. He won't win it because Ashton gent

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Speaker 2: a normal day for Ashton Gent over at Boise But

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Speaker 2: that being said, there needs to be more respect put

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Speaker 2: on Camp'scataboo's name. He deserves Heisman consideration. Seven games with

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Speaker 2: He probably won't be more than like a third round

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Speaker 4: Excited for them, Can he get a Heisman for his name?

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Speaker 4: Because he has the best name in the Heisman by far.

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Speaker 2: The thing that I keep saying about him too is

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Speaker 2: like I call him Scataboo. Yeah, because it's like the

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Speaker 2: Kanye West Monster song. But I don't know if like

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Speaker 2: the students currently rolled an ASU like know that reference.

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Speaker 2: I don't see it anywhere on social media. But my

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Speaker 2: biggest thing with this ASU team, and this is the

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Speaker 2: last thing I'll say. No, what I do want to

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Speaker 2: get trending is my fiance and I spoonerize everything. If

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Speaker 2: you know what spoonerizing is, you take the first sound

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Speaker 2: of each name or each part of the name, and

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Speaker 2: then they switch him. Okay, so instead of Kenny Dillingham,

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Speaker 3: That took me a minute.

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Speaker 2: I know, I know, I had.

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Speaker 3: Some time with them. My Michigan education needed to take

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Speaker 2: My ASU education. Ireparing me better than a Michigan education.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry that your Wolvergings are not part of this discussion,

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Speaker 2: but we do have I believe it. Just it's about

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Speaker 2: That's going to be I don't totally trust Texas.

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Speaker 4: I don't trust Texas either. And it's interesting because at

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Speaker 4: I feel very differently now, so I don't totally trust Texas.

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Speaker 4: I'm I kind of think Georgia is going to win

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Speaker 2: They I mean, they have the benefit of the pedigree

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Speaker 3: No, Oregon's gonna win that, like Oregon.

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Speaker 4: It's so funny though, I still when you I was

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Speaker 4: Big to take me like two or three seasons to eternalize.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they're so far away from everything we've known

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Speaker 2: little bit more. There, guys. It's a great day for football.

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Speaker 2: It's a great day to have a great day. But

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna want I want to bring this all back

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Speaker 2: into switching topics. I want to get a nerdy trace.

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Speaker 3: I like it.

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Speaker 2: Can we get nerdy.

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Speaker 3: Let's be nerdy, both of glasses. I know we both

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Speaker 3: have our glasses on. Let's just be nerdy. I love it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So this week analytics has been in the spotlight.

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Speaker 2: This week, namely because of Fox announced broadcaster Extraordinariy greg Olsen.

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Speaker 2: Against the or in the Cardinals Vikings game last weekend,

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Speaker 2: He described beautifully why that's not exactly what you want

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Speaker 2: have nothing else to lose. They have to get the touchdown.

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Speaker 2: So you have now forced that backed them into a

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Speaker 2: and then he was on the NFL on Fox podcast,

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Speaker 2: who Dave Hellman, the host of that show, will be

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Speaker 7: I spent probably way too much time of my day

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Speaker 7: when you add up those kids, you're talking ten to

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Speaker 2: I just can't.

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Speaker 3: He's right, and he's so right.

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Speaker 2: Like I don't know how you, uh, what does Kyle

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Speaker 2: like he is so innovative. The system that he helped

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Speaker 2: Right now what is his kind of view on it?

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Speaker 4: Well, it's funny because as he was talking, I was like,

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Speaker 4: this could be a Kyle Shanahan press conference because he'll say,

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Speaker 4: like we are we were were three plays away from

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Speaker 4: fully be a Kyle Shanahan a press conference without questions

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Speaker 4: about injuries, like one hundred percent. So he doesn't talk

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Speaker 4: as much about the analytics, but he always talks about

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Speaker 4: so it's like kind of what's the worder that I'm

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Speaker 4: It's like three one or two plays a game, and

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Speaker 4: it's so true. And I think Greg summed it up

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Speaker 4: the past. You know, we've seen their team and then

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Speaker 4: we've they and it's like, I don't they just I

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Speaker 4: don't see them being able to like to go into

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Speaker 4: Kansas City and win the years past. This team feels

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Speaker 4: kind of like the Lions, like they just feel like

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Speaker 4: we are the best team. We know we are the

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Speaker 4: best team, and we're going to play like the best team.

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Speaker 4: And Kyle Shannon always says with the playoffs and Kyle

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Speaker 4: getting a lot of airtime today, Kyle Shannon always says

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Speaker 4: in the playoffs like, it's not necessarily the best team

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Speaker 4: that wins, it's the one who plays the best for

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Speaker 4: three and a half hours. So but with the Bills,

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Speaker 4: I think they're going to be both right, And this

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Speaker 4: is the first season where I really trust that and

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Speaker 4: really trust Josh Allen.

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Speaker 3: He is so on his game right now. They are

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Speaker 3: going to be very very hard to beat.

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Speaker 4: And this might be where you know, the clock runs

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Speaker 4: out on the Chiefs and it's just they don't have

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Speaker 4: enough to get there, even with Patrick Muhbell.

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Speaker 2: That's the That's my other question. And the other side

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Speaker 2: of this equation is are we putting too much or

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Speaker 2: too little into the Chiefs wait for it reputation, Oh nice,

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Speaker 2: it's a Taylor Swift album, guys. But I, like, I

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Speaker 2: still have a lot of faith in the Chiefs to

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Speaker 2: ultimately pull this out because I'm not going to pretend

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Speaker 2: like last year did not happen.

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Speaker 3: Well of course, and Patrick Mahomes is different.

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Speaker 2: With Andy Reid and just kind of the innovation that

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Speaker 2: they have. Once it comes to the like they look

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Speaker 2: almost unrecognizable every year once playoff times come. Like agree

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Speaker 2: with that, there is a whole other playbook I feel

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Speaker 2: like for the Kansas City Chiefs probably is in the postseason. No,

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Speaker 2: I literally think there is. And it's like, this is

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Speaker 2: something that you can't plan for. Then it's not something

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Speaker 2: you have tape on because they are doing different things

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Speaker 2: once the postseason comes around. And that's what makes them

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Speaker 2: so incredibly dangerous when it comes to the playoffs and

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Speaker 2: why I'm just not going to count them out.

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Speaker 4: I don't think you can count them out, but I

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Speaker 4: do think the Bills are the better team and I

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Speaker 4: trust them to be able to prove that playoff time.

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Speaker 4: You can never count out the Chiefs. As long as

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Speaker 4: they have Patrick Mahomes as their quarterback. You can never

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Speaker 4: count to the Chiefs. And it's no disrespect to Andrey

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Speaker 4: Reid because obviously he's a huge part of that. Patrick

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Speaker 4: Mahomes just he just figures it out. But I think

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Speaker 4: probably in general, but when we saw that play, that's

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Speaker 4: why I think that play to me makes me trust

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Speaker 4: them because it felt very Mahomes in. They're like the

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Speaker 4: play like shovels into a Mark Cooper it's not working.

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Speaker 4: He's like, weble to get a back, to get back

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Speaker 4: to me and I and the awareness to get over

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Speaker 4: the pilot like that.

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Speaker 2: And how many times have we seen Javis Kelce like

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Speaker 2: pitch something after he's caught it. Just insane stuff. But

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Speaker 2: now it's time for an update. Break with Martin Weiss.

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Speaker 10: At TG Championship game. Been trading punts and turnover so

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Speaker 10: far through the first quarter, no score between Georgia and Texas.

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Speaker 8: Eight minutes left in the first quarter.

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Speaker 10: Again, Georgia the fifth ranked team in the nation, Texas

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Speaker 10: the second ranked team in the nation. Carlin, I heard

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Speaker 10: you boove doubts, You'll do it here. Arizona State blew

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Speaker 10: out Iowa State forty five to nineteen. Camp scout of

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Speaker 10: both see hundred and seventy yards, two touchdowns on the ground, touchdown.

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Speaker 8: Receiving as well.

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Speaker 10: Sam Levin twelve or seventeen two hundred nineteen through the year,

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Speaker 10: three passing touchdowns. Sun Doubles win the Big Twelve championship

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Speaker 10: in their first year in the conference and are now

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Speaker 10: locked into a spot in the.

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Speaker 8: College of Football playoffs.

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Speaker 10: Ohio University beat Miami Ohio thirty eight to three to

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Speaker 10: win the MAC and Mike Gundy will remain the head

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Speaker 10: coach at Oklahoma State with a restructured contract. In men's

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Speaker 10: college basketball, we saw wins for a fifth rank in Marquette.

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Speaker 10: They beat eleventh three Wisconsin eighty eight to seventy four. Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 10: theineteenh three team in the nation, beat Virginia Tech sixty

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Speaker 10: four to fifty nine, and the twentieth ranth at North

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Speaker 10: Carolina tar Heels beat Georgia Tech sixty eight to sixty five.

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Speaker 10: Orlando Magic forward Fronz Wagner has torn his right o blea.

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Speaker 10: He's out in definitely. That's also the same injury that

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Speaker 10: forward Polo Bankero is suffering for the team.

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Speaker 8: But again, right now, Texas with the.

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Speaker 10: Ball throwing it, this's like a complee shit, what if

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Speaker 10: be a touchdown if you have caught the ball?

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Speaker 8: There's a flag on the play.

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Speaker 10: Six forty five left in the first quarter, no score

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Speaker 10: between Texas and Georgia and the SEC championship.

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Speaker 8: Game being played at Atlanta.

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Speaker 10: Back to you guys, who thanks Martin, Congratulations, thank you Er.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna milk this this whole show.

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Speaker 8: Hey, Kenny Dillingham, Scatty they've been putting on a show.

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Speaker 2: Call him Denny killing him because he killing him. I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna make this happen.

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Speaker 3: You're gonna do it. You're gonna get someone.

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Speaker 2: Who's gonna help me do that. We have the host

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Speaker 2: of the NFL on Fox podcast, the one that Greg

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Speaker 2: Olsen was actually talking to about all of those analytics

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Speaker 2: things that you heard at the top of the hour,

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Speaker 2: Dave Hellman. How you doing, Buden.

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Speaker 11: I appreciate the plug of the NFL on Fox pot.

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Speaker 2: That's good what we're here for. H you were the

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Speaker 2: other voice. I think you had a couple of little yeah,

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Speaker 2: uh huh like agreements with Greg Olsen during that conversation.

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Speaker 2: But peel back the curtain a little bit. Was that

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Speaker 2: kind of a planned segment?

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Speaker 7: Did you?

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Speaker 2: What did you ask him off the top to kind

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Speaker 2: of get him going, because that was quite the answer

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Speaker 2: from Greg about all the ADA legs and his beliefs.

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Speaker 11: What's funny is I think it was a prolonged conversation

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Speaker 11: that went back to Sunday. Because I'm fortunate enough to

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Speaker 11: I get to talk to Greg multiple times a week,

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Speaker 11: so I talked to him right in the wake of

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Speaker 11: that Arizona Minnesota game, and we just sort of went

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Speaker 11: through the decision making process and then I think on Wednesday,

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Speaker 11: I just brought it up again and I was like, hey, man,

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Speaker 11: I just I want you to know how much I

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Speaker 11: appreciate you leading the way and putting a very visible

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Speaker 11: face on this conversation. And it's ironic. This is in

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Speaker 11: every layer of football. I mean, we saw it on

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Speaker 11: Thursday night with Dan Campbell going for that fourth down

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Speaker 11: tied against Green Bay. We're seeing the opposite of it

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Speaker 11: in this Georgia Texas game that's happening right now, where

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Speaker 11: Kirby Smart had force in a foot at midfield and

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Speaker 11: opted to punt, and wouldn't you know, Texas is driving

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Speaker 11: into Georgia territory as if nothing ever happened because Kirby Smart,

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Speaker 11: in my opinion, was a little too conservative. So it's

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Speaker 11: something that I feel passionately about. Obviously Greg Wilson does

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Speaker 11: as well, and you know, Greg is is way more

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Speaker 11: handsome and famous than I am, so I'm I'm really

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Speaker 11: happy that that he's able to sort of spearhead that

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Speaker 11: conversation for you know, not just football siccos, but anybody

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Speaker 11: that's happening. You know, anybody that happens to be watching

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Speaker 11: the Fox broadcast.

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Speaker 3: It Carmen made him the King of the Nerds, as

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Speaker 3: you appointed him.

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Speaker 11: I did, absolutely he is. He is the The nice

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Speaker 11: way to say it is like he's spearheading the aggressive

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Speaker 11: analytics conversation. But king of the Nerds sounds way better.

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Speaker 5: It does.

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Speaker 3: It sounds like a fun title. It totally is totally

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Speaker 3: using a crown.

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Speaker 2: I know, well, you are as plugged in as anybody

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Speaker 2: to the college football landscape, even though that's not something

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Speaker 2: that you cover. Uh, if you would have told me

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Speaker 2: that your Louisiana State Tigers would not be in the

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Speaker 2: college football playoffs, my Arizona State sown devils would have been.

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Speaker 11: That's such a nice thank you for that.

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Speaker 2: You're so welcome again. I said I was gonna milk

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Speaker 2: that I was gonna milk this whole thing, uh throughout

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Speaker 2: the show, and so sorry you're my latest victim.

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Speaker 3: And also sorry that we took Bryce Underwood.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's right, yeah, Tracy watch Michigan. So this is

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Speaker 2: really like an anti LSU show right now. And for

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Speaker 2: it to be thank you for having me on, I

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Speaker 2: had you want to bully you.

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Speaker 11: Basically that's it's it's okay. I'm you know what this is,

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Speaker 11: what the expanding college football Playoff is for, is we're

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Speaker 11: seeing all sorts of new teams and new faces gaining

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Speaker 11: national relevancy. And I sure would love to compare Kenny

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Speaker 11: Allingham's salary to Brian Kelly's. I'm sure it would be

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Speaker 11: very sobering for those of us that root for LSU.

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Speaker 2: That's a that's such another conversation, like the last bastion

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Speaker 2: of the old school college football coaches are like on

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Speaker 2: their way out at this point. I mean, you had

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Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh go to the league, Nick Saban's out, I

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Speaker 2: mean you have Kirby Smart, Dabos Sweeney. You and I

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Speaker 2: had this conversation this week, I think, Dave where we

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Speaker 2: were like, with all of the money that now has

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Speaker 2: to go towards the students, doesn't make sense really to

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Speaker 2: pay these exorbitant contracts to coaches when these guys can

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Speaker 2: the players can go as they please throughout the portal,

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Speaker 2: they can go where the money is. All that kind

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Speaker 2: of stuff.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I really we were talking about that. I mean,

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Speaker 11: it's Kirby and Dabbo. I guess you could drow Brian

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Speaker 11: Kelly in there just because he's been coaching in major

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Speaker 11: college football for such a long time. But even he's

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Speaker 11: in a new location trying to find his footing at LSU, Like,

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Speaker 11: there just aren't very many of those, you know, coaches

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Speaker 11: that are like synonymous with their program left and yeah,

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Speaker 11: like I'm I'm curious to see where it's heading because

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Speaker 11: with nil being such a big part of this and

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Speaker 11: the amount of player empowerment, Yeah, I'm not sure it's

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Speaker 11: worth it. And like, I mean, Georgia would be smart

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Speaker 11: to hold on to Kirby for as long as they can,

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Speaker 11: but other than that, I'm not sure it's worth it

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Speaker 11: to throw all of this money at a coach when

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Speaker 11: it's the players that matter. I mean, the talent has

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Speaker 11: always mattered, but keeping it all in one place is

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Speaker 11: harder than it's ever been before. And yeah, I think,

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Speaker 11: you know, I'd rather have a young guy with a

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Speaker 11: lot of enthusiasm and a small salary like Kenny Dillingham

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Speaker 11: than some of these you know, crazy coaching contracts. I'm

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Speaker 11: interested to see how that kind of ages here over

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Speaker 11: the next three or four years.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think that's what is going to be really

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Speaker 4: interesting to see about nil and all of this, what

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Speaker 4: does it due to college football?

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Speaker 3: How does it change it?

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Speaker 4: I was teasing you about Bryce Underwood, but essentially a

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Speaker 4: very rich person woke up and said, I don't want

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Speaker 4: to be the worst team in football on Saturdays.

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Speaker 3: Which, by the way, I agree with her.

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Speaker 4: Super into it, and Bryce Underwood gets this insane amount

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Speaker 4: of money. It's just going to be interesting. How do

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Speaker 4: you think it is going to change college football? And

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Speaker 4: now do you think coaches are going to get a

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Speaker 4: little more leeway? Because if it's more about the players

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Speaker 4: and you're not paying coaches as much, you're not bringing

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Speaker 4: in these big names, our coaches going to get any

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Speaker 4: more leeway.

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Speaker 11: I think so. And I think you're kind of seeing

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Speaker 11: that right Like I was kind of shocked. I was

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Speaker 11: shocked to realize this week that North Carolina is like

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Speaker 11: the best opening in the college football world this year,

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Speaker 11: and like, no disrespect to North Carolina, but they're not

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Speaker 11: exactly a football powerhouse. And like you know, I think

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Speaker 11: Purdue is open, but we're not seeing like these big

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Speaker 11: football factories fire their coaches. And I think a a

657
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Speaker 11: big part of it is because the big the expanded

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Speaker 11: playoff makes it easier to be relevant than it used

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Speaker 11: to be. But be you're you know, you're stuck with

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Speaker 11: like a forty fifty to sixty million dollar buyout if

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Speaker 11: you want to try to fire these guys. And I

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Speaker 11: don't think most school Like, I think most schools don't

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Speaker 11: want to do that on top of them having to

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Speaker 11: turn around and pay their roster however many million dollars

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Speaker 11: to play for him next year. So I do think

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Speaker 11: coaches are going to get more leeway. And I don't know,

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Speaker 11: it's such a weird time in college football. I just

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Speaker 11: I don't know where it goes. But I feel like

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Speaker 11: in twenty years, maybe even in ten years, we're going

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Speaker 11: to look back and be like, man, that was crazy.

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Speaker 11: Remember when there were like no rules and it was

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Speaker 11: just the wild West. So I don't know what regulations

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Speaker 11: are coming, but I don't think the sport can sustain

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Speaker 11: this much volatility for too much longer of a period

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Speaker 11: of time. I think some sort of regulation has to

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Speaker 11: be in the in the somewhat near future.

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Speaker 3: Well, as long as we're talking weird in college football,

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Speaker 3: will Bill Belichick feed joining the ranks of college football

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Speaker 3: coaches next year?

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Speaker 11: Speaking of North Carolina direct.

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Speaker 3: That sparks the thought in my head.

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Speaker 11: That would blow That would blow my mind, honestly, And

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Speaker 11: like people I know and trust have have reported that

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Speaker 11: maybe there's legitimate smoke to this, and maybe Bill Belichick

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Speaker 11: really would be interested in doing it and his son

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Speaker 11: Steve would come along with him. I think he's at

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Speaker 11: the University of Washington right now. It's just it's weird

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Speaker 11: to me, Like it's crazy. I mean, you know, Bill

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Speaker 11: Belichick is I don't know the number off the top

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Speaker 11: of my head, but like he's not far off of

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Speaker 11: Don Shula's all time wins record in the NFL. I

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Speaker 11: would imagine that that is at least somewhat important to him,

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Speaker 11: Like proving that he can win a Super Bowl without

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Speaker 11: Tom Brady is important to him. I don't know what

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Speaker 11: he gets out of diving into college football, and I

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Speaker 11: don't know why he would want to put in that

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Speaker 11: level of work. Again, we're it's harder than it's ever been.

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Speaker 11: You've got to recruit at a top level, and then

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Speaker 11: once you get these players, you have to continue recruiting

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Speaker 11: them because they can leave thirteen months after they agree

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Speaker 11: to come to your school. Like, I do not see

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Speaker 11: the appeal for a guy with his resume of diving

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Speaker 11: into this insane sport with these you know, just as

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Speaker 11: competitive as it's ever been. It sounds incredibly difficult, but hey,

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Speaker 11: I mean, more power to him if he wants to

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Speaker 11: give it a try, because it would definitely be an

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Speaker 11: interesting story.

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Speaker 2: Well. As the host of the NFL on Fox podcast,

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Speaker 2: we know that you're great for all things NFL, but

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Speaker 2: I liked having the college football conversations with you, mostly

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Speaker 2: because you're just an unhinged LSU fan, and to me,

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Speaker 2: those conversations are more fun. So thank you Dave Hellman

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Speaker 2: for joining us today and giving us those that look

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Speaker 2: inside college football a little bit more. We'll talk to

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Speaker 2: you soon.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, anytime, y'all appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: All right, you guys coming up, we have the dudes

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Speaker 2: and the don'ts on at the other side of this break.

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Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Who is this?

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Speaker 1: See you?

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Speaker 5: I was gonna say, Okay, Old Santa Claus.

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Speaker 2: Wow, listen. My Christmas playlist is like two hundred and

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Speaker 2: something songs and I haven't heard this one.

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Speaker 8: I'll send you the Spotify link.

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Speaker 2: Excellent, excellent.

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Speaker 3: I like this.

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Speaker 2: I take Christmas music very very seriously.

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Speaker 5: You should.

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Speaker 2: I know it's 'tis the time of year, and tis

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Speaker 2: the time right now for the dues and the don'ts

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Speaker 2: of the week highlighting.

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Speaker 1: I love that putting a spotlight on the don't the

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Speaker 1: subject brings me no joy.

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Speaker 2: Don't do that, that's insane.

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Speaker 1: It's time for the dues and the don'ts.

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Speaker 2: In sports, Yeah, you can tell which which comments mine

742
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Speaker 2: on that little promo. I'm going to start with the

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Speaker 2: do and that is due. Give your all to your team,

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Speaker 2: like that well line and dance skipper in for the

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Speaker 2: injured Tailor Decker on Thursday night for the Lions against

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Speaker 2: the Green Bay Packers. Thrilling win, just absolute gritastic. I

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Speaker 2: just made up a word. I mean, I feel like

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Speaker 2: Dan Campbell would approve. Dan Campbell gets into the locker room,

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Speaker 2: he's fired up. He's in the middle, like in the

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Speaker 2: middle of his speech as he's yelling at his guys

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Speaker 2: about their resilience and all this other stuff, and he's like,

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Speaker 2: and you skip, keep doing what you're doing over there,

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Speaker 2: keep throwing up over there, whatever it is you're doing,

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Speaker 2: like and then the camera pans to Dan Skipper, who

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Speaker 2: is bent over a trash can, puking up his guts

756
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Speaker 2: because he left it all. He's like, wait to leave

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Speaker 2: it all out on the field. It was the most

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Speaker 2: football guy moment locker room. I'm telling you, I don't

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Speaker 2: know if there is another team that has been ever

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Speaker 2: been this likable in the it like that I can remember.

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Speaker 2: And if I'm forgetting somebody, let me know. But this

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Speaker 2: Lions teams so easy to love in so many ways

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Speaker 2: against you know, as long as you're not a division opponent,

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Speaker 2: I get that, But I just there's so much frickin fun.

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Speaker 3: They're so fun. I'm totally a bandwagon Lions fan.

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Speaker 5: This year.

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Speaker 4: I'd like to see them go all the way. But

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Speaker 4: there's so much. There's such a great story that Jared

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Speaker 4: Golf of it All. It's just it's just and that

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Speaker 4: would be maybe the title of his memoir.

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Speaker 2: All but I just Jared hyphen redf Jard go Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Red Golf of it All?

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I love him really fun.

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Speaker 2: Why have a do okay?

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Speaker 4: Timothy shallow May was also just really fun to say. Yes,

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Speaker 4: it's fun to say so. Also, one due would be

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Speaker 4: to keep saying.

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Speaker 3: It over and over. But he's it was the guest

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Speaker 3: picker a college game Day. Nailed it, his research nailed it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, this man is a professional. It was awesome.

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Speaker 3: So if you're gonna do it, if you're gonna be

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Speaker 3: a guest picker, then know what you're doing. I can

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Speaker 3: say do in this sense, he was the only.

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Speaker 2: One that took Ohio over Miami about if he was.

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Speaker 9: He also had the voice for it. Oh yeah, inflecting

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Speaker 9: down and just nailing the broadcaster voice like a young

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Speaker 9: Chris Collins.

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Speaker 4: Work well, he's practicing for a role, but he is

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Speaker 4: doing just fantastically well.

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Speaker 2: I mean he is. He is a phenomenal actor. But

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Speaker 2: like I just whether it was his PR team or

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Speaker 2: whoever it was, or if it's him, I just I

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Speaker 2: am choosing to believe that Timothy Shallome is just part

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Speaker 2: of the Sickos committee shout out Sickos committee. I am

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Speaker 2: just I choose to believe that he is of college

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Speaker 2: football or of a sports cicco.

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Speaker 3: I'm into it. I totally am willing to believe it.

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Speaker 2: I love it all right, I've got it. I've got

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Speaker 2: to don't speaking of like cross hobbies or like crossovers.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you don't expect, Okay.

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Speaker 2: Don't care what they think because Ram's defensive lineman. Kobe

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Speaker 2: Turner So good was what viral on social media. First

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Speaker 2: of all, he was on the Mass singer and his

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Speaker 2: rendition of Google Doll's iris was electric electric. But then

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Speaker 2: he goes viral on social media because he recorded himself

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Speaker 2: learning the choreography from Wicked the night before a game

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Speaker 2: in his hotel room. If you ever wonder what players

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Speaker 2: do in their hotel rooms before games, like, oh, they're

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Speaker 2: looking through their iPads, They're looking, they're going through plays,

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Speaker 2: they're meditating to do whatever. Kobe Turner is learning the

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Speaker 2: choreography arian A grand Day's choreography and Wicket And as

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Speaker 2: I just saw the movie last night, Oh.

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Speaker 3: My god, it's so good. You see Wicked, that's ad

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Speaker 3: that is that is.

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Speaker 2: Also a do clearly, but Kobe Turner in the spirit

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Speaker 2: and like his little his feet going and you're like, oh,

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Speaker 2: this is why you're like, you're just you're an athlete.

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Speaker 2: This is an athletic man that is doing the twinkle

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Speaker 2: toes in his hotel room learning the choreography. I'd love

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Speaker 2: to see it.

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Speaker 3: I well, I love to see it as well. It

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Speaker 3: was so much fun and definitely see wicked.

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Speaker 4: I have a don't I don't is and this is

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Speaker 4: probably because of what I deal with every single day,

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Speaker 4: But don't root for your coach to get fired when

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Speaker 4: you've been to two Super Bowls and multiple NFC Championship

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Speaker 4: games and they're having a bad season because everyone on

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Speaker 4: the planet on their team is injured and there's lack

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Speaker 4: of in So I would just say that this idea

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Speaker 4: that Kyle shanahany should be fired is ridiculous. And also

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Speaker 4: back to what we were saying in the college football

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Speaker 4: discussion or what we were heard about Ryan Day earlier.

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Speaker 4: Who's replacing Kyle Shannan, Who's replacing Kyle Shannon.

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Speaker 3: So don't be that fan.

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Speaker 2: Give it a beat. I think I think a lot

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Speaker 2: of people, like on the national level, that aren't as

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Speaker 2: plugged into the forty nine ers kind of ecosystem online

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Speaker 2: would be shocked to know how much of a contingent

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Speaker 2: there is to get Kyle Shanahan fired. It's huge, which

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Speaker 2: is ridiculous when you consider that there's also contingents of

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Speaker 2: fan bases across the league saying, yeah, fire him, will

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Speaker 2: take him. And I'm like, shouldn't that be your very

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Speaker 2: first inkling that maybe he shouldn't fire the guy if

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Speaker 2: the rest of the league is collamorating for him, or

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Speaker 2: at least the teams that need a head coach or

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Speaker 2: conceivably will need a head coach at the end of

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Speaker 2: this season. I think it's just kind of an insane.

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Speaker 4: It's insane, it's absolut insane. And by see one more, Well,

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Speaker 4: he hasn't won the Big one. Guess what's real? Hard

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Speaker 4: to go to the Super Bowl? Only two teams go,

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Speaker 4: one team wins.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people are unhappy. All right, coming up

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Speaker 2: an hour two, we have Adam Amen, We've got a

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Speaker 2: bunch more NFL conversation. We're gonna be with you for

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Speaker 2: another hour. Thanks for tuning in. We'll see you on

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Speaker 2: the other side. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Welcome

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Speaker 2: back for hour two in our Fox Sports Saturday show.

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Speaker 2: I am common vitally in for Alex Kurt who's on

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Speaker 2: vacation grinding in the studio with me. It's Tracy Sandler,

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Speaker 2: CEO of Fangirl Sports Network and forty nine Ers be reporter,

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Speaker 2: a lot of forty nine ers things to get to

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Speaker 2: in this hour two. We've got some playoffs to talk about,

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Speaker 2: because that's very relevant right now, and the infamous in

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Speaker 2: the Hunt graphic for a bunch of teams. At this point,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna have Adam Amen Fox play by play extraordinary,

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Speaker 2: Adam a Mean joining us in just about a half hour.

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Speaker 2: But first, Tracy, you're saying there's a chance there are

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Speaker 2: there are multiple teams that are kind of on the

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Speaker 2: bubble in the Hunt whatever you want to say, some

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Speaker 2: a little bit more likely than others, and I feel

871
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 2: like the more likely ones are the ones that we're

872
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 2: not totally sure about, that have a legitimate chance all

873
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 2: belong in the NFC. It feels like the AFC is

874
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 2: all but locked up at this point. But when you

875
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 2: look at the NFC playoff picture, teams like the Bucks

876
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 2: right now are not in it, but you think, all right,

877
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 2: are they? Like they're kind of trending the right direction

878
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,399
Speaker 2: to make a push down the stretch here. I don't

879
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 2: know what to make of the NFC West. Nobody does,

880
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 2: which is why I'm really glad that you're here with

881
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 2: me between the Rams, the Cardinals, the Niners, and then

882
00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 2: in the AFC that you do think maybe has a

883
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 2: shot here are the Indianapolis Colts. Of all teams, mm hmm,

884
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 2: if you can get a little bit more consistency out

885
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,879
Speaker 2: of Anthony Richardson. But then I feel like there's those

886
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 2: teams kind of grouped at the top of truly being

887
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,680
Speaker 2: in the hunt. And then you have like the Ellipses,

888
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 2: and then the Ellipses, and then like all the way

889
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 2: down teams that aren't quite out of it, but maybe

890
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 2: for all intents and purposes are the Miami Dolphins. Unfortunately,

891
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 2: this pains me to say the Cincinnati Bengals.

892
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 3: It is unfortunate.

893
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,399
Speaker 2: I Tracy, I have not wanted to quit this team.

894
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 3: I know I don't want to so much offense they

895
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 3: really are in. Joe Burrow is just it just breaks

896
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 3: my heart. Every postgame press conference. It's just he's just like,

897
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:23,919
Speaker 3: it's not your fault, Joey.

898
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 2: He's like, it's just it's did everything it could.

899
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 3: My god, he did everything he could. It's just it's

900
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 3: just not there here.

901
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 2: And then uh, not me relishing in the New York

902
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 2: New York Jets being all all the way down. Not

903
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 2: because I hate you Jets fans, I really feel badly

904
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 2: for feel bad for Jets fans.

905
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 6: I do, I do.

906
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,760
Speaker 2: It's not it's not your fault.

907
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 12: Uh.

908
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 2: This is just something though that it's one of those

909
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 2: like confirmations of my suspicions and my theories that this

910
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 2: was not going to go well when you gave up

911
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 2: so much to go get Aaron Rodgers, you gave him

912
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 2: so much power to completely transform your organize and not

913
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 2: for the better, and then this is kind of you

914
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 2: reap what's sow in a lot of ways. And clearly

915
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers is not the quarterback that he used to be.

916
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 2: I think we can definitively say that now because the

917
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 2: Jets didn't go on a run like they did a

918
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 2: couple of years ago when he was with the Green

919
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 2: Bay Packers still and they won four or five down

920
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,959
Speaker 2: the stretch, and they just narrowly missed the playoffs because

921
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 2: of the Detroit Lions, like all that kind of stuff

922
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:27,800
Speaker 2: that did not happen, that is not going to happen.

923
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,839
Speaker 2: Things have absolutely blown up in New York. And I'm

924
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 2: sorry Jets fans, and I am.

925
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 4: A Robert Solafan, and I think the firing was ridiculous.

926
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 4: Clearly he was not the problem, and I agree with you.

927
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 3: I'm sorry Jets fans, but this does not it does

928
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 3: not pain me that the Jets are having the season.

929
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 2: That I guess. It just doesn't pay me that Aaron Rodgers, it's.

930
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 3: Really Aaron Rodgers because there are other people on that

931
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 3: team I really like.

932
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 2: Right right exactly, but it's really Coo. I love Bracehall

933
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 2: is like one of my favorite young players, and they

934
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,320
Speaker 2: just they haven't been able to utilize him. Correct. He

935
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,800
Speaker 2: hasn't been happy with his touches, nor should he be

936
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,359
Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff. But let's talk. Let's let's

937
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 2: talk the top of the order a little bit more.

938
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 2: Because a team that's very near and dear to my

939
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 2: heart is the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. And you taught we

940
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 2: talk a lot about trust this show. I feel like

941
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:23,399
Speaker 2: and though the Bucks are at five hundred, I kind

942
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 2: of trust them down the stretch. I trust them to

943
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 2: kind of to win that division. I'm I'm I think

944
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 2: I'm out on the Atlanta Falcons. Oh very narrowly have

945
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 2: the lead in that division because they own the tie

946
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:35,280
Speaker 2: breaker over the Buccaneers.

947
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 1: But I don't.

948
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 2: I do not trust that defense whatsoever. I don't trust

949
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 2: I was gonna say Kirk Cousins is not playing well.

950
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 2: They're not utilizing him in ways that he was utilized

951
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 2: so well in Minnesota, like particularly on play action. The

952
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 2: Atlanta Falcons run the play action at one of the

953
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 2: smallest rates in the league. Or it doesn't make a

954
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 2: whole lot of sense when that's something that kirk Cousins

955
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 2: is very good at and something that he excelled at

956
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 2: and that worked really well for him at his previous stop,

957
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 2: and you think that this is something that he still

958
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 2: should be able to do and can help him mitigate

959
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 2: the rush when you're talking about I mean, I do

960
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 2: think that Atlanta's offensive line is actually pretty good, but

961
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 2: not good enough for what how kirk Cousins is playing

962
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 2: right now.

963
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 4: No, definitely not, And I think we're just The Atlanta

964
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 4: Falcons are generally just a mystery to me. I look

965
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 4: at them week after a week, What are you doing?

966
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 4: Do you Maybe they may not know what they're doing.

967
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 4: It does not feel like they do.

968
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 2: I feel like I started asking myself that question in

969
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 2: the draft.

970
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's maybe went out sign a.

971
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 2: Few weeks before signing Kirk Cousins through one hundred million

972
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,399
Speaker 2: dollars deal or a hundred million guaranteed, I should say.

973
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 2: And then they go with a top ten pick and

974
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 2: take another quarterback. We're all kind of left scratching our heads,

975
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 2: like this is either going to be brilliant or really weird,

976
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 2: and we're still kind of on the really weird part.

977
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 4: We're definitely on the really weird part. I guess it

978
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 4: remains to be seen. But I don't trust them.

979
00:45:58,000 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 3: I'm with you.

980
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 4: I do trust the Bucks. I think it's a good

981
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 4: football team. I think Baker Mayfield is playing well. I

982
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 4: trust them down the stretch. I think they win that

983
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 4: division and make it steak on into the playoffs.

984
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 2: I think so too. And I mean, you got Mike

985
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 2: Evans back now, and you're having like he needs to

986
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 2: average about one hundred yards almost one hundred yards a

987
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 2: game going forward if he's going to get to that

988
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 2: thousand yard mark for the eleventh straight season. I believe

989
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 2: the NFL record NBD, NBD. I could do a you know,

990
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 2: you know, there's like that meme like what could you

991
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 2: talk about for sixty minutes straight? What could you do

992
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:32,920
Speaker 2: a Ted talk on without any prior preparation. Mine is

993
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 2: I could make Mike Evans Hall of Fame case right now,

994
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 2: and I could go on for about two hours as

995
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 2: to why that's the case and why it's ridiculous that

996
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 2: we aren't putting that respect on how good of a receiver,

997
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 2: great of a receiver. Mike Evans is elite player, elite human,

998
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 2: doesn't get their respect he deserves. But I do think

999
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,879
Speaker 2: that the bucks that the defense hasn't been a sound

1000
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 2: especially on the ground, and that kind of worries me.

1001
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 2: But you've had a lot of a rotation, like injuries

1002
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 2: up front. Both the to Ba and Klaijakanci are healthy.

1003
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,759
Speaker 2: Now you have some yah Yad Yabi is kind of

1004
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 2: getting there. I just I have a lot of faith

1005
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 2: in the offense though to score points with Baker Mayfield

1006
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:17,479
Speaker 2: come hell or high water. The NFC West, the NFC

1007
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 2: West go Tracy.

1008
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,280
Speaker 4: It's so funny because not that long ago the NFC

1009
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 4: West was the strongest division in the NFL. Our four

1010
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 4: NFC West team is going to go to the playoffs

1011
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 4: this year. It's like, does any really do any.

1012
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 2: Does anybody want to go to play?

1013
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,280
Speaker 4: Shouldn't they even be allowed to go in the playoffs.

1014
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 4: It is just a little bit of a cluster and

1015
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 4: it's it's a mess. I mean, right now it looks

1016
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:42,280
Speaker 4: like it will be the Seahawks to win the division,

1017
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 4: and Seahawks and the Cardinals have a tough road ahead

1018
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 4: of them to finish out the season. But you know,

1019
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 4: the forty nine Ers are five and seven. It's certainly

1020
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 4: not where anybody thought they would be. But just today

1021
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 4: we knew it was happening. Jordan Mason went on Ir

1022
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 4: George Odom, who was their special team's a, so to speak,

1023
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 4: her that was not necessarily expected, and special teams has

1024
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 4: been kind of a disaster for San Francisco. They will

1025
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 4: have one massive special team's mistake a game, So you

1026
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 4: have that for the game against the Bears tomorrow. Nick

1027
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 4: Bosa's been downgraded out. Aaron Banks, We've talked a lot

1028
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 4: about offensive lines. Aaron Banks is downgraded out, Trent Williams

1029
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,239
Speaker 4: is out. Just this forty nine Ers team is not

1030
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 4: the forty nine Ers team that we've seen make runs

1031
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 4: in the past.

1032
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:28,320
Speaker 2: By the way, guys, Tracy got all of these roster

1033
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 2: moves out in one of our last breaks. Yeah, and

1034
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 2: there were more, but there were more, but like staying

1035
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:35,919
Speaker 2: on top of things while you're doing a radio show,

1036
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 2: in commercial breaks, you're getting transactions out. It's just it

1037
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 2: never stops, guys.

1038
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 4: It never does. It never ever stops. But I just

1039
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 4: don't have the same faith in these particular four natters.

1040
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 4: We've seen these teams in the past kind of go

1041
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 4: on runs.

1042
00:48:51,239 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 3: This isn't that team. And it's been a very tough

1043
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 3: year there. It's been a very tough year with injuries.

1044
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 4: It's been a very tough year of personal tragedy, and

1045
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 4: people look at their schedule for the rest of the

1046
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:04,919
Speaker 4: season and think, like I see a lot of people

1047
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,320
Speaker 4: say this, like, oh whatever, it's the Bears, the Rams,

1048
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 4: Miami Detroit. Well, no, everybody will say that's going to

1049
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 4: be could be a mess and then away against the Cardinals.

1050
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 4: But they've already lost the Rams, right, they've already lost

1051
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 4: the Cardinals. I think the Bears are going to win

1052
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 4: the game tomorrow. I think they're going to get that

1053
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 4: little interim coach bumk that we talked about earlier. But

1054
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 4: they think they're going to get that. And I think

1055
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 4: traveling to Miami, I could see Miami definitely winning that game.

1056
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 4: And I don't think that's like a I see people like, oh,

1057
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 4: it's an easy with First of all, there's no such

1058
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:35,720
Speaker 4: thing in the NFL.

1059
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 3: But it's just it's not gonna be the Niners.

1060
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 2: So if it's not going to be the Niners, who

1061
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 2: does that open the door for the Seahawks?

1062
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 3: Okay, I think it is going to be the Seahawks.

1063
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 2: I mean Gino Smith, while he needs to take care

1064
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 2: of the football maybe a little bit more, is on

1065
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,280
Speaker 2: just an incredibly productive.

1066
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 4: Pace and they're finding ways to win, right, And this

1067
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 4: is what we use. This is the difference I think

1068
00:49:56,160 --> 00:50:00,720
Speaker 4: between good teams and bad teams. And with snatch victory

1069
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 4: from the jaws of defeat or snatching defeat from the

1070
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 4: jaws of victory. And the Seahawks are snatching victory the

1071
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,359
Speaker 4: jaws defeat. They're fighting ways to win, They're playing well.

1072
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:09,360
Speaker 4: Things are going.

1073
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:11,399
Speaker 2: Their way, balls bouncing their way.

1074
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 5: It is the ball.

1075
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 3: Ball don't lie, and the ball does not want you to.

1076
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 2: Do you think they're the one then to get into

1077
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,439
Speaker 2: the playoffs from the NFC West or do you see

1078
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,839
Speaker 2: the Cards the Rams kind of making a push.

1079
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 3: I think the Cardinals could potentially make the Rams. I don't.

1080
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 3: I don't think it's the Rams.

1081
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 4: But Thursday Night it's gonna be really I mean, it's

1082
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 4: the four Nighters Rams. Thursday Night football is gonna be

1083
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 4: kind of a It's gonna be an interesting game. I

1084
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 4: don't if the Rams can win it, which I think

1085
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 4: they can, then maybe they, you know, are able to

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Speaker 4: make a push. But I think Seahawks and then maybe

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Speaker 4: the Cards. But it may just be the Seahawks because

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Speaker 4: I just don't know that any of these teams can

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Speaker 4: make the wild card.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no, I mean it's gonna be tough in

1091
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Speaker 2: the NFC. We talked about that, how it's a tough

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Speaker 2: it's a tough field, like the competition is really because

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Speaker 2: you're looking at maybe three teams from the nf North

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Speaker 2: making the playoffs and two of those have to be

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Speaker 2: wild cards, And.

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Speaker 3: So is it really been a maybe? Like I think

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00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 3: three teams NFC North are going to make this four teams.

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Speaker 2: All four teams have a positive point differential in the

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Speaker 2: NFC North, which is absolutely wild. I mean, the Bears

1100
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 2: are all but out of the playoff picture, but they

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00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 2: still have a positive point differential. So you're looking at

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Speaker 2: the records here too, and The Bears are the only

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Speaker 2: team in the NFC North that are under five hundred,

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Speaker 2: and the Vikings and the Packers are well over five hundred,

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00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 2: so they've got good records. I knew going into the

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00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 2: season it was going to take twelve, thirteen, maybe fourteen

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Speaker 2: wins to win this division, and that's why the Lions

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00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 2: have punched a playoff ticket, but they have not locked

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Speaker 2: All right, we're going to take a quick break here

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Speaker 2: on the other side of it, We're going to be

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Speaker 2: talking a little bit more about where the San Francisco

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Speaker 2: forty nine Ers and the Chicago Bears go from here.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so I'm really glad that Tracy is with me

1140
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 2: today filling in because the team that I am most

1141
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 2: familiar with and the team that you are most familiar

1142
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 2: with are playing tomorrow. The Chicago Bears visit the San

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Speaker 2: Francisco forty nine Ers in Santa Clara. You're gonna be there.

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00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, Oh, I'll be there.

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00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you just steered. You're all over the place.

1146
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 2: It's wild. But this is kind of an opportunity to

1147
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:38,839
Speaker 2: have a larger conversation because this game did I said

1148
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:41,800
Speaker 2: this when I do a show with Trevor Sikamuf for

1149
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:45,400
Speaker 2: PFF and we preview every game every week, and I

1150
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 2: said this on that show, where I was like, I really,

1151
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:51,760
Speaker 2: I'm having trouble boiling this game down to like certain

1152
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 2: matchups or this that the other. I don't think that's

1153
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 2: what matters. Because the Bears, while they're not technically eliminated

1154
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:01,320
Speaker 2: from the playoffs, don't have playoffs, especially coming out of

1155
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 2: the NFC North, just there's too much competition. They have

1156
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,680
Speaker 2: to replay all of their division opponents. It's not gonna

1157
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:09,560
Speaker 2: be pretty down the stretch for the Chicago Bears with

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00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 2: an interim head coach, all of that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 2: And then you look at the Niners, who have been

1160
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:18,240
Speaker 2: decimated by injury. There's been so much turmoil this season,

1161
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,879
Speaker 2: both on and off the field. On a very serious note,

1162
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 2: but it kind of just seems like the way that

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00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 2: Kyle ha Shanahan has talked about it too. While not

1164
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 2: being We talked about this on your show this week.

1165
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 2: While he hasn't resigned himself by any stretch of the imagination,

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00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,800
Speaker 2: I think you use the word realist. He's being a

1167
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 2: realist about their playoff chances and what they would have

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00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 2: to do down the stretch. Though they look to have

1169
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:46,160
Speaker 2: kind of an easier schedule, there are no gimmes in

1170
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Speaker 2: the NFL, especially if other teams are fighting for playoff spots,

1171
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:52,800
Speaker 2: which the Miami Dolphins will be, you know, conceivably. Anyway,

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Speaker 2: this game kind of I think now comes down to,

1173
00:54:58,239 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 2: all right, where do these teams go from here and

1174
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,879
Speaker 2: how can they start this week? And That's where I'm

1175
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 2: kind of approaching this at Would you agree I.

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00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 3: Would definitely agree with that.

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Speaker 4: I think from the forty nine ers perspective, this now

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00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:16,800
Speaker 4: becomes an opportunity for rookies and some second year guys

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Speaker 4: to show that they should be on this team next year.

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Speaker 4: Because for the forty nine ers there the four Nitans

1181
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,360
Speaker 4: are going to look very different next season. They're not

1182
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 4: in a rebuild by any means, but there is going

1183
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:28,840
Speaker 4: to be quite a bit of retooling, and so this

1184
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 4: is an opportunity I think with these games for these

1185
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Speaker 4: guys to prove that they should be part of that retooling.

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Speaker 4: This rookie draft class has been really good and actually

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure where this team would be without them.

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Speaker 3: But you know, some of the other younger.

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Speaker 4: Guys, the second year guys, the third year guys, can

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Speaker 4: they show no, you should keep us around. We should

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00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:49,440
Speaker 4: be part of your retooling process. So I think that

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00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 4: becomes important. I think it's an important five games for

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Speaker 4: Brock party. I think Brock has had a good season

1194
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:57,719
Speaker 4: and probably a better season that he's getting credit for.

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Speaker 4: That's some bad games, but they've all had some very

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00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 4: bad games. But he, I believe, has shown that he

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Speaker 4: is still their guy. He is going to be signing

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Speaker 4: a contract this offseason. In theory, he would be getting

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Speaker 4: the numbers that any other quarterback would get. He'll be

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Speaker 4: under contract one more year. I think he's going to

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Speaker 4: sign the contract. I think it's going to be a

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Speaker 4: big contract. He is their guy.

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Speaker 3: They don't want to lose him. But I think these

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Speaker 3: five games, without.

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Speaker 4: The supporting cast he's used to, rock Perty has to

1206
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 4: continue to play well and show that, not necessarily to

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Speaker 4: prove to the forty nine ers and not that everybody

1208
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Speaker 4: cares what people say outside the building, but I think

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Speaker 4: for the future of the organization, I think he has

1210
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 4: to well so put that out there so that I

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Speaker 4: think is really the big thing for them and really

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Speaker 4: to not lose anybody further or for longer. I mean

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Speaker 4: I mentioned earlier nick Bosa has now been downgraded to out.

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Speaker 4: You know, if they lose tomorrow and the Seahawks win,

1215
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 4: does the fort ninerds say, Okay, we're shutting down Nick

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Speaker 4: Bosa for the season, We're shutting down Trent Welliams for

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00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 4: the season. Like this is We're not going to put

1218
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Speaker 4: people in a position that they potentially get very hurt

1219
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:08,279
Speaker 4: now they're missing time to start next season. So I

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00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 4: think this game for the forty nine ers is a

1221
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:15,080
Speaker 4: little make or break, even though technically if they lose

1222
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:17,680
Speaker 4: it they're not out of it. I think if they

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00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 4: lose and the Seahawks win tomorrow, they're basically out of it.

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Speaker 2: Is Kyle Shanahan from an organizational perspective, in any danger

1225
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:30,040
Speaker 2: of losing history, absolutely not okay, all right, because that's

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Speaker 2: the one thing that's kind of a variable here where

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00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 2: you don't necessarily then have the luxury of shutting guys

1228
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 2: down for the rest of the season. If you feel

1229
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 2: like you're coaching for your job.

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Speaker 3: Is not coaching for history?

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Speaker 2: Okay, great, yeah, I mean that's absolutely the right answer.

1232
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,040
Speaker 2: But there is, like, as we talked about earlier, a

1233
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 2: large contingent of forty nine er fans that don't know

1234
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 2: how good they have it exactly, and a team that

1235
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 2: definitely knows how good the forty nine ers have it

1236
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:56,080
Speaker 2: is the Chicago Bears, who interim coach Thomas Brown has

1237
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 2: now been man three weeks ago. This man was the

1238
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 2: passing game coordinator, not having regular meetings with Kayleb Williams,

1239
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 2: didn't have his whole fingerprint on the offense whatsoever. And

1240
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 2: now he has been elevated to offensive coordinator with the

1241
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 2: firing of Shane Waldrin, and then now is in the

1242
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 2: head chair with the firing of Maddie Refluce, the first

1243
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 2: time the Chicago Bears have ever fired a coach in

1244
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 2: the middle of the season. This concerns me in a

1245
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 2: lot of ways, and it did as soon as they

1246
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 2: named Thomas Brown the interim head coach, because I do

1247
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 2: feel like in the three games since he took over

1248
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:32,760
Speaker 2: as offensive coordinator, Kayleb Williams has looked so much more decisive.

1249
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 2: He's been given so much more information pre snap with

1250
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 2: the uptick in motion that this offense has now incorporated

1251
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:41,360
Speaker 2: into the scheme while working within the constraints of the

1252
00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 2: existing playbook. That is something that Thomas Brown was able

1253
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 2: to do so quickly and so beautifully and get this

1254
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 2: team to being competent. Like, Yes, the bar is low

1255
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 2: for the Chicago Bears right now, I understand that, but

1256
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 2: to go from where they were where nothing looked easy

1257
00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 2: offensively for them under Shane waldron ten weeks the season

1258
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:06,680
Speaker 2: to having competent, decisive play from a rookie who yes,

1259
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 2: still makes her ky mistakes and has made rooky mistakes

1260
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 2: infamously in that game against the Lions where Kayleb Williams

1261
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 2: did have the power to call the time out, but

1262
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 2: he's not gonna do that. He took a sack before

1263
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 2: that was the one thing he couldn't do. Yes, that

1264
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 2: was all a very rookie moment for Kayleb Williams, but

1265
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 2: it ultimately is up to the coach to save your

1266
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 2: players from those situations, are from being put in those

1267
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:30,440
Speaker 2: situations which Matdieberflus failed to do over and over and

1268
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:34,000
Speaker 2: over again, which is why he's out. But now Thomas Brown,

1269
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 2: after making the progress that he's made, now he is

1270
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 2: tasked with all of the decisions and all of the

1271
00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 2: game management that comes with being a head coach, not

1272
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 2: just an offensive play caller. Now Chris Betty, their wide

1273
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 2: receivers coach, is now interim offensive coordinator and will be

1274
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 2: taking on reportedly a larger role within this Bears offense.

1275
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 2: But Thomas Brown is still calling plays. But then he's

1276
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 2: also going to have to manage these in game situations,

1277
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 2: these late game situations, because the Bears are good enough

1278
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 2: to make a push at the end of games, They're

1279
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 2: good enough to make it close. But the reason Matt

1280
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 2: Abraflus was fired was because he was becoming a liability

1281
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 2: because he couldn't make the right calls in these situations.

1282
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:22,760
Speaker 2: Now you're gonna spread a guy who's not used to

1283
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:28,000
Speaker 2: this magnitude of responsibility in Thomas Brown, have him have

1284
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 2: to make all of these decisions. Is this really going

1285
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 2: to work out? And I'm rooting for Thomas Brown. This

1286
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 2: is an extended job interview for him, which I think

1287
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 2: is one of the things that you need to look at,

1288
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 2: you know, going down the stretch here. But at the

1289
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:42,640
Speaker 2: same time, you can coach yourself out of the job

1290
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:46,600
Speaker 2: by not really by not making the right decisions. Yet

1291
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 2: the odds are stacked against you because you're not used

1292
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:51,440
Speaker 2: to doing any of this. Like I said, three weeks ago,

1293
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 2: you were the pass game coordinator and didn't have any

1294
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 2: decisions to make, and so how is that going to

1295
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 2: affect things?

1296
01:00:58,360 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 6: This?

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Speaker 2: You know, this happened to Thomas Brown last share with

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Speaker 2: Carolina Panthers. He took over from Frank Reich. He has

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Speaker 2: had head coaching like he's just kind of the last

1300
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 2: two years, and he hasn't gotten a fair shake at either.

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Speaker 2: And things did not go well frankly in Carolina once

1302
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 2: he took over. But I mean there were myriad issues

1303
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 2: in Carolina from the top down clearly, and something that

1304
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,000
Speaker 2: Dave Canalis seems to have been able to write and

1305
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:22,920
Speaker 2: we're going to talk to Adam Imean about that very

1306
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 2: shortly here. But I just think going forward with the

1307
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 2: Chicago Bears, you need to see continued improvement and development

1308
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Speaker 2: by Caleb Williams. You need to figure out again, like

1309
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 2: you were saying about the Niners, who's staying on this

1310
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 2: roster for the not it's not a it really is

1311
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:42,440
Speaker 2: a retol like it's a true retool, because they did

1312
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 2: set this roster up beautifully and this will be one of,

1313
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:49,200
Speaker 2: if not the most coveted head coaching job vacancy or

1314
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 2: head coaching vacancy in the league. But the Bears are

1315
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 2: a very dysfunctional organization and that comes from the top.

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01:01:57,120 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 2: That's not that has nothing to do with the head coach,

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01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 2: which is why you've now seen three coaches fired a

1318
01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 2: year after you've drafted a quarterback in the first round.

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01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 2: That's a sign of organizational dysfunction, absolutely, and you need

1320
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:14,080
Speaker 2: to figure out, all right, the hierarchy of all this

1321
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 2: with your team president being over football and then Ryan

1322
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 2: Poles and then doing this coaching search, and that all

1323
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 2: needs to be streamlined, ironed out, figured out so by

1324
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 2: the time you're actually able to start bringing in head

1325
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 2: coaches for interviews, you have a plan to say this

1326
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 2: is how it's going to work. I promise you it's

1327
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Speaker 2: going to be different this time. We are our number

1328
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 2: one priority is Caleb Williams and getting this offense back

1329
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:38,800
Speaker 2: on track. Can you do that? We're going to help

1330
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 2: you here's the resources, YadA, YadA, YadA. So it's not

1331
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Speaker 2: even quantifiable really on the field, but do you have

1332
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Speaker 2: your guy in Caleb Williams. Caleb Williams, and I really

1333
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:49,880
Speaker 2: believe that they do. So at the end of the day,

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Speaker 2: that's all I really expected out of this season for

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01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 2: the Chicago Bears, and that's still very much on the table.

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Speaker 4: And what other Niners thought is it's a big five

1337
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 4: games for the defense. Yeah, for the defensive coordinator, because

1338
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:03,280
Speaker 4: although I do not think all of the issues are

1339
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 4: Nick Sornson by any means, he might be coaching for

1340
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 4: his job in the next five days, five weeks.

1341
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Speaker 2: We're gonna take a quick update break before getting to

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01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:13,040
Speaker 2: out of a meme. Here's Martin wors Sorr.

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Speaker 8: I hope I'm not updating for my job.

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01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 2: It sure is.

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Speaker 10: I mean, Lord, six to three. The score right now

1346
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:22,200
Speaker 10: between Georgia and Texas been a field goal fest. Obviously

1347
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:25,040
Speaker 10: no touchdowns scored thus far. But Texas doesn't ring.

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Speaker 8: You know, it's in the SCC just means more, right defense, right, well.

1349
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Speaker 2: It certainly not. It doesn't mean as much as it

1350
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 2: does in the Big twelve. Apparently, let's talk about it.

1351
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Speaker 2: Talk about it, Martin.

1352
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 10: Arizona State blew out Iowa State forty five to nineteen

1353
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:41,919
Speaker 10: camps Kataboo one hundred and seventy yards on the ground,

1354
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 10: two touchdowns, touchdown catches well Sam Levitt twelve for seventeen

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01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 10: two hund nineteen yards or three touchdowns. The Sun doubles

1356
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 10: when the Big Twelve championship in their first year in

1357
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 10: the conference, now locked into a spot in.

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01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 8: The College Football Playoff.

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Speaker 10: And it's just head coach Denny Killingham's second year. I

1360
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:01,440
Speaker 10: heard they call him that because he'd be killing him, you'd.

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01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 6: Be killing Oh.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we're gonna make this havon Martin. We're going to

1363
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Speaker 2: make this happen.

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Speaker 10: With the mintle left of the fourth quarter, Jackson State

1365
01:04:07,480 --> 01:04:10,640
Speaker 10: leeds Southern forty one to thirteen in the SWACK Championship.

1366
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:14,080
Speaker 10: Ohio University beat Miami of Ohio thirty eight to three

1367
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Speaker 10: to win the MAC Championship. Mike Gundy will remain the

1368
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Speaker 10: head coach at Oklahoma State. He will have a restructured

1369
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Speaker 10: contract in that job. Men's college basketball fifth rank Marquet

1370
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Speaker 10: be the eleventh rank, Wisconsin eighty eight to seventy four.

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Speaker 10: Eighteenth rank with Pittsburgh beat Virginia Tech sixty four to

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Speaker 10: fifty nine, twentieth rank North Carolina over Georgia Tech sixty

1373
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 10: eight to sixty five. Orlando Magic forward Franz Wagner.

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Speaker 8: Has torn his right obleak. He's out in definitely.

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Speaker 10: It's the same injury that Paolo ban Caerro suffered for

1376
01:04:42,920 --> 01:04:44,440
Speaker 10: the Magic earlier this season.

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Speaker 8: The odds of that are slim. I'll just say that,

1378
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Speaker 8: not slim.

1379
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Speaker 10: The new contract that Willie adamis just signed for the

1380
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 10: San Francisco Giants seven years, one hundred and eighty two

1381
01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:57,400
Speaker 10: million dollars. It's the largest contract in franchise history. That's

1382
01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 10: per Jeff Passion at ESPN, Carmen and Tracey, that was.

1383
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 2: A good transition. Martin, thank you you are Yeah, you

1384
01:05:05,880 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 2: are coming up right now. We have play by play extraordinaiy.

1385
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 2: He does NFL on Fox. He is the voice of

1386
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 2: the Chicago Bulls. He does MLB on Fox. He's also

1387
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 2: many don't know a DJ in his spare time because

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Speaker 2: he has that. Ladies and gentlemen, Adam Iman, how are you?

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Speaker 7: Oh?

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Speaker 11: Great to hear.

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Speaker 6: I know you're in a very good mood because of

1392
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:36,560
Speaker 6: because of them devils. I know you're in a very

1393
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:37,440
Speaker 6: good mood today.

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Speaker 2: The devil.

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Speaker 6: Thank you, thank you, thank you very much for the intro,

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Speaker 6: and great to talk to you ladies.

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Speaker 2: Adam, you have tomorrow you will be calling the Panthers

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01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:50,560
Speaker 2: Eagles game. Am I correct in that, yes, ma'am uh

1399
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 2: so we have listen. There are so many good things

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01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 2: to take from this game that I guess on the

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01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:00,200
Speaker 2: surface probably doesn't look like it means a whole lot

1402
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 2: because the Eagles are on a tear here, but the

1403
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 2: margin for error in the NFC is so minimal that

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01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 2: while this may be like you'd think that the Panthers

1405
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:14,160
Speaker 2: are out matched and the Eagles or whatever, like, the

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01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:15,080
Speaker 2: Eagles have to win this.

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01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 6: They're in a position because of So we were going

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01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:21,800
Speaker 6: over the schedule today, right they're playing for their final

1409
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:25,160
Speaker 6: five games at home, so their loan road game is

1410
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 6: on the road at Washington, which is a quick trip.

1411
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 6: You don't even have to get on a plane if

1412
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:32,680
Speaker 6: you don't want to. So if somehow they can get

1413
01:06:32,720 --> 01:06:34,440
Speaker 6: the number one seed in the NFC, they may not

1414
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 6: have to get on a plane until the Super Bowl

1415
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 6: to New Orleans, which is insane to think about, but

1416
01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:42,360
Speaker 6: that's that's the kind of what's at stake for this

1417
01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:46,040
Speaker 6: group that's been really good on the ground. Jalen Hurts

1418
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 6: has made a lot of adjustments. They've changed their offense

1419
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:50,880
Speaker 6: since they're bye week, they look very very sharp. But

1420
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 6: you know, when you get games like this and you

1421
01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:55,440
Speaker 6: go talk to coaches and players, a lot of the

1422
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 6: times you hear them talk about, well, we have to be,

1423
01:06:58,000 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 6: you know, our best version. We have to be the

1424
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:01,960
Speaker 6: best verson of ourselves. We're focused on what we're doing,

1425
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 6: not necessarily what the other team is doing. That's typically

1426
01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:06,520
Speaker 6: what you hear when you have kind of a matchup

1427
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:09,120
Speaker 6: like this where one team is clearly favored or maybe

1428
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:12,000
Speaker 6: you know is clearly more talented or is not a

1429
01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:14,120
Speaker 6: better streak or whatever it may be. Like that's the

1430
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:18,080
Speaker 6: type of stuff that you hear. So watching Detroit on

1431
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:20,320
Speaker 6: Thursday night, really watching them over the last couple of

1432
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:23,160
Speaker 6: weeks with their close games and some of the flaws

1433
01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 6: that are starting to be exposed because of the lack

1434
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 6: of health on the defensive side of the ball from them, Like,

1435
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:30,919
Speaker 6: I think these these are the things that you're talking about.

1436
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 6: The margin for Ara is very very low, and the

1437
01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:36,440
Speaker 6: Lions have learned that the Chiefs have been part of

1438
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:38,520
Speaker 6: that all season long, and sorry about that. We have

1439
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Speaker 6: a very good musician. I'm walking by on the streets

1440
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 6: of Philadelphia as we're doing this interview.

1441
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Speaker 11: I just really appreciated that.

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01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:45,840
Speaker 2: That was awesome, great song.

1443
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Speaker 6: But this is the margin for ERA that you're talking about.

1444
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:52,960
Speaker 6: And you don't want games like this when you are

1445
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:57,200
Speaker 6: a clear favorite, when you are probably superior talent wise,

1446
01:07:57,320 --> 01:07:59,520
Speaker 6: to go by the wayside, because those are the losses

1447
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:01,720
Speaker 6: that haunt you when you are looking back and thinking,

1448
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 6: we could have had the number one seed, we could

1449
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:05,480
Speaker 6: have bet a buye, we could have prevented ourselves from

1450
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 6: having to go on the road too much, whatever it

1451
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 6: may be. That's why the margin for AER in this

1452
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:11,200
Speaker 6: league is as slim as it is.

1453
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Speaker 3: Well, it's funny, Adam, as you were saying that, I

1454
01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:16,760
Speaker 3: was going to ask you, is this one of those

1455
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 3: trap games? Is this a dangerous game for Philadelphia?

1456
01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 4: And is this somebody where Philadelphia fans should actually be

1457
01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:23,840
Speaker 4: somewhat concerned because it's not that they're taking them lightly.

1458
01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 5: But like you say, the.

1459
01:08:25,400 --> 01:08:27,559
Speaker 3: Marriage of error is so small.

1460
01:08:29,280 --> 01:08:31,040
Speaker 4: Are playing some good football right now. You were just

1461
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:33,519
Speaker 4: talking about David Canalis, what he's been able to do so.

1462
01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:36,679
Speaker 3: Is there a danger in that? And does it seem

1463
01:08:36,720 --> 01:08:38,080
Speaker 3: that the Eagles are aware of that?

1464
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:41,040
Speaker 6: You know what, I think the quote that probably sticks

1465
01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:44,519
Speaker 6: out that speaks topectly your point, Tracy is Nick Serrani today,

1466
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:46,880
Speaker 6: when we chatted with him, said, this team is on

1467
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:49,599
Speaker 6: a four game win streak. In reference to the Panthers,

1468
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:51,760
Speaker 6: even though they've lost their last two games, they are

1469
01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:55,520
Speaker 6: treating them as if they are street to Philadelphia.

1470
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Speaker 11: We gotta love it.

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Speaker 6: Well, very real, Okay, but that is a very telling

1472
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:04,960
Speaker 6: statement when you hear a coach they after a team

1473
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 6: has lost two games in a row. No, this team

1474
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 6: is on a four game winning streak. That's how where

1475
01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:10,240
Speaker 6: they're we're treating them.

1476
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:11,040
Speaker 8: They can't.

1477
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:13,240
Speaker 6: We just talked about the Chiefs. They got taken out

1478
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:16,240
Speaker 6: on the wire by Carolina. They probably should have beaten

1479
01:09:16,320 --> 01:09:18,479
Speaker 6: the Bucks last week if not for some miscues on

1480
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:21,479
Speaker 6: the defensive end and obviously the you know, a drop

1481
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:24,400
Speaker 6: touchdown or a non touchdown called maybe let's put it

1482
01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:25,720
Speaker 6: that way at the end of the first staff or

1483
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:27,800
Speaker 6: feel in last week like there were a couple of

1484
01:09:27,880 --> 01:09:30,120
Speaker 6: plays that would have affected the outcome of that game.

1485
01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:32,519
Speaker 6: A couple of missfield goals by Eddie Pinero, a couple

1486
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 6: of misstackles on the defensive end. So that's the margin

1487
01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:37,519
Speaker 6: for Ara that we're talking about. And that's why I

1488
01:09:37,640 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 6: think the attitude for the for the Eagles this week

1489
01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:44,800
Speaker 6: is as such to approach this game as if Caroline

1490
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:48,599
Speaker 6: has beaten these teams and is playing at a higher level.

1491
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 6: And think you guys said they are. They have played

1492
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 6: significantly better since Bryce Young got reinserted as the starting quarterback.

1493
01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:57,000
Speaker 6: I think their scheme has been better, Toubuhobard has had

1494
01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 6: a great run, and Celand's making plays now that he's

1495
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:01,920
Speaker 6: healthy and back the last couple of games. So yes,

1496
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:04,760
Speaker 6: I do think the points you guys are making are

1497
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:07,400
Speaker 6: very appropriate, very ass and very pertinent to the game tomorrow.

1498
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:11,920
Speaker 2: Let's talk about Bryce Young, because I think the turnaround

1499
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:14,920
Speaker 2: for him, you know, gets benched, comes back in after

1500
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:17,840
Speaker 2: getting to kind of observe this offense, I think, get

1501
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:20,160
Speaker 2: a little bit more trust in the offensive line seeing

1502
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:21,760
Speaker 2: the way that they held up for Andy Dalton all

1503
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 2: this other stuff. So much of that though, is so unquantifiable.

1504
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:28,800
Speaker 2: So as someone who has talked to Bryce within either

1505
01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:33,839
Speaker 2: yesterday or today, what's different about him than maybe earlier

1506
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 2: in the season, or what are some of those like

1507
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:40,280
Speaker 2: maybe unquantifiable things that you're noticing and is it just confidence.

1508
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 11: I think it's a combination of a lot of those things.

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01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:44,760
Speaker 11: I think now.

1510
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:47,799
Speaker 6: I was kind of watching some games back when Dalton

1511
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:51,200
Speaker 6: was starting, and there were all these camera shots that

1512
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:55,719
Speaker 6: you consistently saw Bryce on the sidelines in Andy Dalton's

1513
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:57,200
Speaker 6: ear And we just got out of a meeting with

1514
01:10:57,280 --> 01:10:59,599
Speaker 6: Dave Canalis and he I asked him, is that fairly

1515
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 6: presentative of how he's been, you know, for the better

1516
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:05,400
Speaker 6: part of this season, for you know, when he first

1517
01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:08,280
Speaker 6: got benched and then when Dalton was in his last

1518
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:11,400
Speaker 6: couple of starts, Like is that fair? And he said, yeah,

1519
01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 6: I think that's an accurate representation of how he's approached it.

1520
01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:17,400
Speaker 6: He wasn't happy about the benching after two games, but

1521
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:20,560
Speaker 6: he went right back to work rather than pouting about it.

1522
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 6: I think that speaks highly of a young man. And

1523
01:11:22,640 --> 01:11:24,720
Speaker 6: my interactions with Bryce young have only led me to

1524
01:11:24,760 --> 01:11:27,080
Speaker 6: believe that he's got a really good head on his shoulders,

1525
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 6: and he's very mature and he I thought handled all

1526
01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:35,040
Speaker 6: of this very well. And that combined with the sting

1527
01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 6: of getting benched when you have such high expectations for

1528
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:42,680
Speaker 6: yourself and a lot of expectations on you, combined with

1529
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 6: the perspective that you gain when football is quote unquote

1530
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:49,600
Speaker 6: taken away from you, whether it's be a injury or

1531
01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:51,760
Speaker 6: whether losing your starting job, whatever it may be. I

1532
01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:54,680
Speaker 6: think all of those things have played a role in

1533
01:11:55,280 --> 01:12:00,720
Speaker 6: Bryce being very appreciative, very studious about this game. And

1534
01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 6: I think when you get a little bit of confidence,

1535
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:06,639
Speaker 6: you win a couple of games in tight fashion. That's

1536
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:10,200
Speaker 6: why you can go out against Kansas City and throw

1537
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:12,599
Speaker 6: the ball, you know, for two hundred and seventy yards.

1538
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:14,800
Speaker 6: When you go on against Tampa Bay and you know

1539
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:17,960
Speaker 6: they feel comfortable throwing the ball forty six times last week.

1540
01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:20,120
Speaker 6: You know, he's never thrown that many times in an

1541
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:22,760
Speaker 6: NFL game. So a lot of those things have led

1542
01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:25,599
Speaker 6: to his confidence being very, you know, much more apparent,

1543
01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:28,320
Speaker 6: and I think that breeds, you know, the play calling

1544
01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:30,360
Speaker 6: as well. That leads to the type of play calling

1545
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:30,680
Speaker 6: they've had.

1546
01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:32,240
Speaker 11: It also helps that, like I said.

1547
01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:34,639
Speaker 6: Their run game has been very efficient for the most part.

1548
01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:36,720
Speaker 6: So a lot of different things have contributed to the

1549
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:37,599
Speaker 6: things that you guys are.

1550
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:42,120
Speaker 3: Talking about and we have Alabama quarterback versus Alabama quarterback tomorrow. Correct, Yeah,

1551
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:42,800
Speaker 3: is there.

1552
01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:44,880
Speaker 6: The nach time, the first time that these two guys

1553
01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:46,960
Speaker 6: are actually going to meet in person? In fact, we

1554
01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 6: actually love that today. So they've they've spoken in the past.

1555
01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:55,400
Speaker 6: They I think Jalen hurt said he had actually met

1556
01:12:55,479 --> 01:13:00,639
Speaker 6: Bryce's family but hadn't met myself. So so this will

1557
01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 6: be the first time that the two actually get a

1558
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:04,519
Speaker 6: chance to meet in person. And while they didn't overlap

1559
01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:09,559
Speaker 6: roster wise at Alabama, Bryce at one percent, Jalen Hurts

1560
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 6: is part of the reason I went to Alabama because

1561
01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:15,559
Speaker 6: of what he described as the Alabama quarterback culture. Obviously

1562
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:17,240
Speaker 6: very apparent. You just look back the last you know,

1563
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:19,360
Speaker 6: ten to fifteen years as the about a quarterbacks from

1564
01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:21,599
Speaker 6: that school that have gone to the NFL, and they

1565
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:24,200
Speaker 6: did the last handful of drafts, and I think it's

1566
01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:25,680
Speaker 6: pretty cool that those two guys are going to meet

1567
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:26,439
Speaker 6: for the very first time.

1568
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:30,080
Speaker 2: Last thing I want to ask you, because I've kind

1569
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 2: of I've talked a lot about this and talking about

1570
01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:35,000
Speaker 2: the Lions more so, when you look at the NFC

1571
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:37,280
Speaker 2: and you look at the top teams in the NFC,

1572
01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:42,280
Speaker 2: they have CEO head coaches. You have Dan Campbell and

1573
01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 2: then you have Nick Sirianni, and they are like, they

1574
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:47,679
Speaker 2: are the culture guys. They're the ones that bring everybody together.

1575
01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:50,240
Speaker 2: And while the Lions have been kind of on an

1576
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:53,559
Speaker 2: upward trajectory for the last couple of years under Dan Campbell,

1577
01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:57,080
Speaker 2: there were some real question marks about Nick Siriani and

1578
01:13:57,240 --> 01:13:59,479
Speaker 2: the culture that was really in Philadelphia, Like at the

1579
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:01,479
Speaker 2: beginning of the season, it didn't seem like it was

1580
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:04,800
Speaker 2: going super well. What's changed there? And do you think

1581
01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:08,559
Speaker 2: there's something too kind of having that culture guy, Especially

1582
01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:13,320
Speaker 2: as our Chicago Bears Adam are embarking on a coaching search,

1583
01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:15,439
Speaker 2: should they be looking for one of these culture guys

1584
01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:17,360
Speaker 2: or still at a play caller.

1585
01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:20,680
Speaker 6: I think, you know, it's probably not enough evidence just

1586
01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:23,320
Speaker 6: based off those two guys, but it is pretty good evidence.

1587
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:25,160
Speaker 11: Like it's it's pretty good.

1588
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:28,439
Speaker 6: It's the level of success, you know. I think being

1589
01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:32,120
Speaker 6: a culture guy means being open to certain things and

1590
01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:34,960
Speaker 6: certain ideas that may not come directly from you. I

1591
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:41,200
Speaker 6: think that's probably an important element to being successful because

1592
01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:43,120
Speaker 6: everybody feels like they have some ownership. I think in

1593
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:46,880
Speaker 6: the Philadelphia Eagles case, they were two and two going

1594
01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:50,000
Speaker 6: into that bye week. The offensive line, you know, in

1595
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:53,240
Speaker 6: particular Lane Johnson and Lane and Dickerson and you know,

1596
01:14:53,400 --> 01:14:54,120
Speaker 6: Jordan Malatta.

1597
01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:55,400
Speaker 11: They go in for a meeting and.

1598
01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:57,400
Speaker 6: Talk about how they want to change the offense and

1599
01:14:57,479 --> 01:15:01,040
Speaker 6: be a little bit more you know, more run heavy,

1600
01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:03,280
Speaker 6: a little bit more play action heavy, things that they

1601
01:15:03,360 --> 01:15:05,320
Speaker 6: just weren't doing very much of in the early part

1602
01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:09,240
Speaker 6: of the season. And Derryanni was open to that. And

1603
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:11,760
Speaker 6: the fact is that Jalen Hurts was passing the ball

1604
01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 6: thirty times a game for the first month of the

1605
01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:16,599
Speaker 6: season and he's and now he's passing the ball twenty

1606
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:17,719
Speaker 6: one times a game since.

1607
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:18,080
Speaker 11: The bye week.

1608
01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:21,280
Speaker 6: And Barkley has you know, barked exactly. And but you know,

1609
01:15:21,320 --> 01:15:23,320
Speaker 6: with that offensive line as highly touted as they are,

1610
01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:26,040
Speaker 6: Barkley is having obviously an MVP caliber season, which is

1611
01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:27,960
Speaker 6: not something you always get to say about running backs.

1612
01:15:28,439 --> 01:15:31,080
Speaker 6: So being open to that, I think is part of

1613
01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:34,160
Speaker 6: the culture that you might be talking about, you know,

1614
01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:37,439
Speaker 6: being having a philosophy and leaning into it like they

1615
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:39,280
Speaker 6: have the last day games. I think the way that

1616
01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:43,439
Speaker 6: Detroit has leaned into their fourth down philosophy, their addressive philosophy,

1617
01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:46,439
Speaker 6: whether it's whether it's the right thing or the wrong thing,

1618
01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:48,960
Speaker 6: or if you can't really determine if it's right or

1619
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:51,599
Speaker 6: wrong unless you're looking at the results. So I think

1620
01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:53,120
Speaker 6: you have to be open to certain things, and I

1621
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:55,920
Speaker 6: give Nick a lot of credit being open to a change.

1622
01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:57,960
Speaker 6: You know, that's that's not an easy thing for play

1623
01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:01,240
Speaker 6: callers to always be. They don't want to give that

1624
01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:02,680
Speaker 6: up or they don't want to be told what to

1625
01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:05,800
Speaker 6: do necessarily. So I do think there is something to that.

1626
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:09,000
Speaker 6: But I feel like for me, culture means that everybody

1627
01:16:09,080 --> 01:16:12,240
Speaker 6: feels like they have a say and has a hand

1628
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:15,920
Speaker 6: in the success and even the failure of a franchise

1629
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:16,719
Speaker 6: in an organization.

1630
01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:19,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, thank you so much for joining us from

1631
01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:23,720
Speaker 2: the streets of Philadelphia, Adam so so much. Enjoy the

1632
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:27,679
Speaker 2: game tomorrow. You guys have been listening to Fox Sports Radio.

1633
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:32,240
Speaker 9: It was this or Trans Siberian Orchestra, which way we

1634
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:32,760
Speaker 9: wanted to go.

1635
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 2: Oh, honestly, Trans Siberian Orchestra is like a It's like

1636
01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:40,200
Speaker 2: early in the show though, because that's gonna get me

1637
01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:42,880
Speaker 2: like pumped up. This is a really good way to

1638
01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:47,200
Speaker 2: kind of like ease out of our time because we

1639
01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:51,920
Speaker 2: are approaching the end of our two Tracy has been

1640
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:56,519
Speaker 2: helping me out while Alex Curry is on vacation. This week,

1641
01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:00,360
Speaker 2: we've got one thing left to do, Trace sure do,

1642
01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:02,040
Speaker 2: and it's to make some picks.

1643
01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:07,360
Speaker 12: Producer Patrick, Hello, ladies, it is time for our picks

1644
01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:08,559
Speaker 12: and all that stuff.

1645
01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:10,760
Speaker 5: And before we go, do you want to know your

1646
01:17:10,760 --> 01:17:11,680
Speaker 5: results from last week?

1647
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:15,200
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, I wish we picked against

1648
01:17:15,240 --> 01:17:17,559
Speaker 2: the spread, Patrick, I would be going so much better

1649
01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:18,759
Speaker 2: if we picked against the spread.

1650
01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:22,920
Speaker 5: I know, well, Alex won four and one, you went

1651
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:23,519
Speaker 5: three and two.

1652
01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:26,240
Speaker 2: You're still close.

1653
01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:31,240
Speaker 12: Now now I overthink everything. It's fine, it's fine. Well,

1654
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:33,800
Speaker 12: maybe this is the time where we can finally get

1655
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:36,160
Speaker 12: a leg up on her. Right, she's the fearless leader,

1656
01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:38,240
Speaker 12: but the fearless leaders away. So you are now our

1657
01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:41,400
Speaker 12: new fearless leader. Okay, So we're gonna go with our

1658
01:17:41,439 --> 01:17:45,799
Speaker 12: first game, Carmen and Tracy. It is the Atlanta Falcons

1659
01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:50,160
Speaker 12: and Kirk Cousins taking on my Minnesota Vikings. We have

1660
01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:52,879
Speaker 12: point favorites at home. By the way, Alex took the Vikings.

1661
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:53,479
Speaker 6: Ms.

1662
01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:56,559
Speaker 2: Fatali, who you taking? I'm also taking the Vikings. It's

1663
01:17:56,600 --> 01:18:00,360
Speaker 2: at home. We talked earlier about not trusting the Atlantas.

1664
01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:01,960
Speaker 2: I do not trust their defense. I do not trust

1665
01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:07,320
Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins, especially running into this Brian Flora's defense that

1666
01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:10,280
Speaker 2: I mean, there's so many things about his defense that

1667
01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:14,640
Speaker 2: Kirk has just historically struggled with period, mostly all of

1668
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:18,680
Speaker 2: those moving parts in the secondary. So I just I

1669
01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:19,960
Speaker 2: don't see this going well for Kirk.

1670
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:21,760
Speaker 3: I'm picking the Vikings as well.

1671
01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:24,320
Speaker 5: Okay, let's go Vikings across the board. We're gonna go

1672
01:18:24,400 --> 01:18:25,160
Speaker 5: number two real quick.

1673
01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:25,320
Speaker 9: Here.

1674
01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:28,639
Speaker 12: We got my Seattle Seahawks taking on the Arizona Cardinals

1675
01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:30,439
Speaker 12: at home, who are two and a half point favorites.

1676
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:33,200
Speaker 12: Alex also took the Seahawks on this one. Carmen, you're

1677
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:36,760
Speaker 12: gonna follow her on this. No, I'm gonna go with

1678
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:40,320
Speaker 12: the Arizona Cardinals. They're at home. They've got a lot

1679
01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:41,559
Speaker 12: to play for there.

1680
01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:46,759
Speaker 2: Listen. I'm left wanting with Marvin Harrison Junior this season,

1681
01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:50,800
Speaker 2: but he was the top taken wide receiver in this

1682
01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:53,439
Speaker 2: year's draft for a reason. Even if you were to

1683
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 2: go back and do it again, I still don't think

1684
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:59,040
Speaker 2: anybody would is as good as Aslak Neighbors has done

1685
01:18:59,160 --> 01:19:01,639
Speaker 2: in New York. I just I don't know. I think

1686
01:19:01,680 --> 01:19:02,920
Speaker 2: the Cardinals are gonna have a little bit of a

1687
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:05,080
Speaker 2: chip on their shoulder. Tracy, I am going.

1688
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:05,559
Speaker 3: With the Seahawks.

1689
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:07,439
Speaker 4: As I said earlier, as we said, the ball is

1690
01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:09,759
Speaker 4: bouncing their way. I am picking the Seattle Seahawks.

1691
01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:11,080
Speaker 2: All right, we'll go real quick.

1692
01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:13,080
Speaker 12: We've got the Bills on the road three three and

1693
01:19:13,080 --> 01:19:15,599
Speaker 12: a half point favorites with the Rams. Alic shows the Bills, Carmen,

1694
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:18,320
Speaker 12: who you taken? I'm also taking the Bills. They look unstoppable.

1695
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:22,920
Speaker 2: Josh Allen looks unstoppable, even after his acronym for his

1696
01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:26,000
Speaker 2: fiance Hailey Steinfeld in her newsletter that just came out.

1697
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:27,680
Speaker 2: If you haven't seen it, go online and check it out.

1698
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:30,200
Speaker 3: I'm taking the Bills, all right.

1699
01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:32,080
Speaker 5: Then we got we'll go real quick.

1700
01:19:32,160 --> 01:19:35,200
Speaker 12: Bears at Niners, who are favorites at home, Alex like

1701
01:19:35,280 --> 01:19:36,680
Speaker 12: the Niners, Carmen, Tracy.

1702
01:19:36,439 --> 01:19:38,680
Speaker 2: Be going Niners. The Niners are so beat up. The

1703
01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:40,760
Speaker 2: Bears have a lot to play for. The bump, the

1704
01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:43,160
Speaker 2: head coaching bump, and I'm head coaching bump. I'm going Bears.

1705
01:19:43,240 --> 01:19:44,160
Speaker 3: I'm going Bears as well.

1706
01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:47,639
Speaker 12: Okay, final game, we got the Bengals at the Cowboys.

1707
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:50,439
Speaker 12: Bengals five and a half point favorites. Ali shows the Bengals.

1708
01:19:50,479 --> 01:19:51,200
Speaker 8: Where we going here?

1709
01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:52,479
Speaker 2: I'm also going the Bengals.

1710
01:19:52,680 --> 01:19:55,840
Speaker 3: Please God, Bengals, for the love of God, give Joey

1711
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:56,880
Speaker 3: Burrow this win bank.

1712
01:19:56,920 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 2: All right, thank you guys, start tuning in. I'm krme Tali.

1713
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:02,000
Speaker 2: That's Tracy Sam. Have a great weekend. Go Devils.