1 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 2: AC Milan meeting English Premier League club Manchester City in 3 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:15,159 Speaker 2: a preseason friendly at Yankee Stadium tomorrow afternoon. It's the 4 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 2: latest push in the United States by the Italian football jats, 5 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:21,239 Speaker 2: a market they've seen significant growth in since being born 6 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:24,279 Speaker 2: by New York private equity firm Redbird Capital back in 7 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 2: twenty twenty two. Please to say that joining us now 8 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 2: to discuss is the AC Milan CEO Georgio Ferlani, George, Joe, 9 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 2: Let's talk about this move. We've seen these friendlies before, 10 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:36,840 Speaker 2: AC Milan on tour playing other teams from the Premier 11 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 2: League and elsewhere. It feels like we're getting closer to 12 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 2: playing a regular season game in the United States of America. Georgia, 13 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 2: Is that true? How close are we to an event 14 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 2: like that taking place? 15 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: Good morning, Thanks for having me. 16 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 3: You're right. We do these tours in the summer regularly 17 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 3: to play friendlies against other top teams. Look, there's a 18 00:00:59,160 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 3: regulatory challenges in moving abroad and into a different market 19 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 3: domestic league games, but we certainly think if you really 20 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 3: want to develop a fan base and you really want 21 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 3: to expand your business in the US. This would be 22 00:01:14,840 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 3: a critical part. So we will be working with CITIA, 23 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 3: our league, and the other regulatory bodies to allow us. 24 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 2: You've mentioned the bodies you need to work with. Can 25 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 2: you just build on that the obstacles for something like 26 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 2: that to take place. Have you had a meeting with 27 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 2: setting out the regulatory bodies about this already? Have you 28 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 2: taken steps to kind of push this forward? How close 29 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 2: are we to something like this? 30 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 3: We certainly have discussed it with it then needs to 31 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 3: be discussed also with WAIFA and with FIFA and the 32 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 3: authorities here in the US. There have been attempts in 33 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 3: the not so distant past to play games. La Liga 34 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 3: tried to but it didn't work out. So we'll keep 35 00:01:55,760 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 3: on absolutely important. Just in the same way that American 36 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 3: leagues have expanded globally by the regular season games not 37 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,360 Speaker 3: just friendly outside of America, we need to do the 38 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 3: same the other way around. 39 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 2: It feels like ac Milan has become more American in 40 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 2: the last year or so and maybe less Italian. The 41 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 2: very fact that there wasn't a single ACMLAN player on 42 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 2: the Italian roster of the Euros this summer, is that 43 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 2: a financial decision or a sporting decision. 44 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 3: Very good question. We've definitely become more American. We're owned 45 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,399 Speaker 3: by an American firm, which is Redbert Capital Partner, which 46 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 3: is a leading investor in sports media and entertainment, and 47 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 3: we work very closely with them. We've also become more 48 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 3: American on the field, so we have I think you 49 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 3: were saying two American players. Our decisions on who to 50 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 3: field are entirely sporting. Uh, there is in a decision 51 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 3: on the base of, you know, what passport the player has, 52 00:02:55,680 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 3: but it's about how good the player is. Obviously, some 53 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 3: players just by nature of being American. In our case 54 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 3: we have two players, including Christian Voldovik, have a certain 55 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 3: commercial appeal in the US, which is certainly helpful. But 56 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 3: we don't drive sporting decisions by passport looks. 57 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 1: We were talking Georgio about how the United States is 58 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 1: a really expensive market, that there's a lot of money here, 59 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: and so that's one reason why a lot of people 60 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: want to come here is because they're dollars and a 61 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: lot of eyeballs to come. They're also a lot of 62 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: dollars coming from the Middle East, and you're going to 63 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 1: be focused off facing off with man City, Georgio. How 64 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: open are you to tapping seemingly endless appetite in the 65 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 1: Middle East to own clubs in Europe. 66 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 3: So we have at least in a different way, which 67 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 3: is on the commercial side. So we've opened an office 68 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 3: in Dubai, were the first European football club to open 69 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 3: an office in Dubai. We've had a long standing fifteen 70 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 3: plus year relationship with Emirates the airline. We have other 71 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 3: commercial partners in the region, including the Kursoner Group, and 72 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 3: so the way we've gone about it is not sort 73 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 3: of via let's say equity injections, but rather via commercial partnerships. 74 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 2: Georjo, I just want to squeeze in one final question 75 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 2: and I'll ask this and said, as an ac Milan fan, 76 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 2: a lifelong fan like yourself, we both remember the ac 77 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 2: Milan of Capello and Saki of Barrazia Maldini. We've both 78 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 2: been disappointed with the performance of the team over the 79 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 2: last twenty years and the trajectory that we've been on. 80 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 2: I remember when the club became a selling club, and 81 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,279 Speaker 2: I identified that summer when we've sold Ebra and we 82 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 2: sold Tiago Silver to Paris Sanja Man it felt like 83 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 2: that was a moment where ac Milan became a club 84 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 2: that needed to sell players and couldn't buy that talent anymore. 85 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 2: This summer we've got two big players, the left back 86 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 2: Theo Hernandez and we've got the goalkeeper Mike Manyan. I 87 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 2: want to understand whether that's two talents that you need 88 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 2: to monetize to fund the the project or whether a 89 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 2: Cimlan is back in a position where it can keep 90 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 2: world class talent. Just what is the state apply? 91 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, So on the sporting side, our ambition is to 92 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 3: fight for the title in Italy every year and to 93 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 3: be competitive in the Champions League. Now we we do 94 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 3: this while on the lets the other side running a 95 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:25,679 Speaker 3: business that is sustainable. So to give you some facts, 96 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 3: we two years ago was a first year in which 97 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 3: a cy Milan was profitable, first year in seventeen years 98 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 3: and last year was the second year. And I don't 99 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 3: think it's ever happened to a Cymlan to be profitable 100 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 3: in two consecutive years. What that translates into is we're 101 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 3: not forced to sell players because of capital shortage or 102 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 3: cash flow issues. So you know, I picking one word 103 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 3: is that we don't need to sell anyone. So, as 104 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 3: a fan, I'm telling you you shouldn't be worried about that. 105 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:01,680 Speaker 2: Well, it's a fan. It's good to hear. Georgia. Good 106 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 2: luck tomorrow and hopefully we can catch up soon. Georgia 107 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 2: Falani there the ac Milan CEO