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Speaker 2: Let's start with the Rams Lions. These standalone own NFL

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Speaker 2: games are insane. I mean, you had over seven hundred

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Speaker 2: yards of offense tonight, over five hundred passing yards between

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Speaker 2: the Lions and the Rams, Matt Stafford and Jared Goff

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Speaker 2: about five and a half yards of play if you

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Speaker 2: avered the two teams. Let's see forty six first downs

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Speaker 2: and no fumbles. Each quarterback threw a pick. Time of

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Speaker 2: possession was even. First of all, Sean McVay and Matt

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Speaker 2: Stafford and Cooper Cup. No Puka Nakua, he got hurt.

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Speaker 2: Both your offensive tackles are out makeshift offensive line. To

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Speaker 2: go into Detroit Sunday night football against the super Bowl

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Speaker 2: level team in Detroit, and really I thought they had

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Speaker 2: the game one in regulation. What a performance by Stafford,

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Speaker 2: Cooper Cup and Sean McVay, who's a rock star. And

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Speaker 2: in the end though, I felt like Detroit when it

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Speaker 2: went to overtime, I'm like, Okay, now it's Detroit's game.

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Speaker 1: Look tired.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes at Chris Collinsworth made a great point, you're not

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Speaker 2: really built in week one to go to overtime in

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Speaker 2: a game that's a track meet. There's just only so much.

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Speaker 2: I don't know who. I don't have the betting lines

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Speaker 2: next week, but I mean the Rams and the Lions.

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Speaker 2: They if they were a little off next week, you'd

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Speaker 2: understand it. But my first take is the Rams. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I wrote these numbers down. At one point they had

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Speaker 2: a twenty eight to twelve first down advantage on the road,

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Speaker 2: four hundred yards, three hundred passing yard, dominating time of possession,

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Speaker 2: and a seventy eight to forty five total play advantage

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Speaker 2: at one point in this game. But credit a very deep,

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Speaker 2: now experienced Lions team, Like they're not new kids on

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Speaker 2: the block. Green Bay still young. The Rams are actually

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Speaker 2: pretty young. San Francisco is older, but the Detroit's got

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Speaker 2: a veteran club here and now a veteran coaching staff

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Speaker 2: with Ben Johnson and Dan Campbell. So I think it

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Speaker 2: was just a team like the Rams gave it everything

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Speaker 2: they had, but they they looked really shot in over time,

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Speaker 2: and to the Lions credit, they just ran the ball

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Speaker 2: right at them. They didn't f around at all. They

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Speaker 2: went right at the Rams interior d line and it worked.

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Speaker 2: I think one of the things I'm always taken by

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Speaker 2: is how good Matt Stafford is. And we all know

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Speaker 2: he's good. But I've said this before. If Matt Stafford

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Speaker 2: and the Rams, and remember what you saw from the

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Speaker 2: Rams night's impressive, Puka Nakool will be back. They'll have

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Speaker 2: both their offensive tackles, their guard will go back to

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Speaker 2: playing center. They'll be a better team. Plus they're incredibly

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Speaker 2: young on the defensive side. I mean they got two

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Speaker 2: rookies starting on that defensive front. Give those guys twelve

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Speaker 2: to fifteen games. This Ram team by the end of

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Speaker 2: the year, you don't want any part of This is

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Speaker 2: a really good team. The difference is the Lions are

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Speaker 2: supposed to be good now and they got out played

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Speaker 2: for big chunks of this football game. One of the

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Speaker 2: things I worry about with the Lions is they don't

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Speaker 2: have a ton of wide receiver depth, so they got

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Speaker 2: to keep amar On Saint Brown healthy. They don't have

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Speaker 2: a lot of depth there, and the Rams did pick

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Speaker 2: him up. Even though I think they're a better team

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Speaker 2: in the back end Rams, and maybe it's just the

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Speaker 2: Rams Cooper Cup can do that. Rams kind of picked

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Speaker 2: them apart for long stretches in that football game. Again,

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Speaker 2: the Rams had a seventy eight to forty five play

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Speaker 2: advantage at one point and were dominating time of possession.

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Speaker 2: So it's one of those things. Detroit I didn't think

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Speaker 2: played particularly well in the second half and they won

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Speaker 2: the game. I thought the Rams were brilliant. A heartbreaking

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Speaker 2: loss when you really outplayed a team on the road,

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Speaker 2: a great team on Sunday night football, and you lose,

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Speaker 2: that's a long flight back to LA But I think

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Speaker 2: what you're looking at is two excellent teams, two teams

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Speaker 2: that could meet again in the NFC Championship. Wouldn't be

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Speaker 2: surprised in the least. Would not be surprised in the least.

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Speaker 2: You know the other thing the Rams, and I wouldn't

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Speaker 2: call this a problem, but it's fascinating. So there's a

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Speaker 2: lot of discussion because he's gotten nicked up last couple

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Speaker 2: of years. What do you do with Stafford? Do you

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Speaker 2: draft another quarterback? But you're watching Stafford tonight he went

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Speaker 2: thirty four for forty nine for three hundred and seventeen

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Speaker 2: yards and a touchdown the pass rush in his face.

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Speaker 2: In the second half, he went eighteen to twenty three

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Speaker 2: for two hundred yards, and again he's under duress. Jared

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Speaker 2: Goff had a much cleaner pocket. And I'm sitting there

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Speaker 2: watching Matt Stafford, and I'm thinking, if you're the Rams

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Speaker 2: for the next couple of years, in the draft, why

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Speaker 2: draft a quarterback? Just stack the roster. Who are you

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Speaker 2: going to get in the draft that's as good as

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Speaker 2: this guy. I know he's older, but when I watched

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Speaker 2: him tonight on the road pass rush, I mean it's

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Speaker 2: basically Cooper Cup. He didn't have Tyler Higbee his top

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Speaker 2: tight end. He's banged up, he didn't have Pooka Nakua,

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Speaker 2: he didn't have his tackles. He's putting on a clinic.

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Speaker 2: You're not going to face many pass rushes, certainly tonight.

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Speaker 2: You're not going to face many environments in this league

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Speaker 2: harder than that. And this guy's eighteen for twenty three

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Speaker 2: in the second half. So you know, I was sitting

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Speaker 2: as I watched the game, and I'm thinking, what I mean,

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Speaker 2: He's never been a big mover. He moves well enough

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Speaker 2: in the pocket, his arm's great. I mean, he's clearly

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Speaker 2: going on thousand miles an hour cognitively. Upstairs, he's got

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Speaker 2: an incredible relationship with Cooper Cup and Pouka Nakua. Now

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Speaker 2: they got Jordan Winningham, this other receiver. They bring in

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Speaker 2: Tyler Johnson, who I thought was kind of a cast off.

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Speaker 2: had a huge play to night, And I'm just saying,

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at this team and I'm thinking the defense

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Speaker 2: is young. Stafford's the old guy. But I don't know

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Speaker 2: if I draft a quarterback. If I'm the Rams, I

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Speaker 2: would definitely draft to tackle. Robin Havenstein died in play

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Speaker 2: the night right tackle. He's getting up there, and I

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Speaker 2: would get another wide receiver. But I mean last year,

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Speaker 2: five of their six top picks or defense, so there's

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Speaker 2: no reason you know they they are very close. I

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Speaker 2: think they could get to the super Bowl. I don't

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Speaker 2: know if there as good as Kansas City. I don't

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Speaker 2: they're certainly in a group of four or five teams

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Speaker 2: that could get there, five or six teams maybe. So

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Speaker 2: I just you're watching Stafford. I'm watching Stafford. That guy

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Speaker 2: doesn't look close to retirement. He doesn't look close. Everybody

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Speaker 2: loves Aaron Rodgers. He's up a major surgery. Kirk Cousin's

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Speaker 2: off a major surgery. Stafford's gotten his hand banged on

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Speaker 2: the helmet and his shoulders been banged up. But I'm

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Speaker 2: just looking at these numbers tonight in that pass rush

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Speaker 2: on the road, in that environment. She I'm just loading

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Speaker 2: the roster up. I'm I'm redoing his contract. You gonna

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Speaker 2: pay you, gonna pay Dak sixty million dollars a year.

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Speaker 2: I'm writing checks for Stafford the next two years Seriously,

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Speaker 2: I'm not drafting on our quarterback. I'm not wasting my

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Speaker 2: time on a draft pick at the top.

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Speaker 1: Gil.

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Speaker 2: I'll get him another tackle, another receiver, another edge rusher.

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Speaker 2: He didn't look close to being over I think there's

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Speaker 2: a I think there's a real argument he's the best

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Speaker 2: quarterback in the NFC. I'm trying to think. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you watched him with golf tonight. Stafford's better Rock Purty,

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Speaker 2: give me a break, Dak, Stafford's more talented, better arm talent,

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Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts Stafford. I mean, just you know, you tell

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Speaker 2: me I think he's the best quarterback in the NFC. Oh,

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Speaker 2: by the way, with McVeigh, which is I mean, if

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Speaker 2: you're if you're if you're taking everything into consideration on

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Speaker 2: if you're going to move off a quarterback, and you say, well,

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Speaker 2: he does have maybe the smartest offensive coach. I think

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Speaker 2: that can that can extend it another year or two. Shit,

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Speaker 2: if you told me that Matt Stafford's starting upright in

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Speaker 2: three years, he's not forty. I don't know you're watching tonight.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he's close to over f them picks.

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Speaker 2: Go get him help, don't draft the quarterback you know

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Speaker 2: the other thing I think is fair to say what

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Speaker 2: we saw in Week one, week one's crazy. I mean

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Speaker 2: I thought I had the right side of the Titans

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Speaker 2: game and Will levis el was that a bad pick?

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Speaker 2: Week one's crazy again. Dallas looked sensational, Cincinnati looked awful.

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Speaker 2: You don't take too much from it, but I do

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Speaker 2: feel like tonight watching that game, I'm watching two super

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Speaker 2: Bowl level teams. Once the Rams get their offensive line

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Speaker 2: so well. They got so many good young players on

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Speaker 2: that team. They're really really young, not Green Bay young,

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Speaker 2: now the San Francisco plays the Jets tomorrow, but my

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Speaker 2: overall take on Sunday, Thursday, and Friday is, you know,

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Speaker 2: outside of Cincinnati, the teams we think are going to

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Speaker 2: I don't know what to make of it. I mean,

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Speaker 2: so you know, you just don't you know, it's hard

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Speaker 2: to make a big sweeping judgment. But I feel like

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Speaker 2: against that Detroit team starting two rookies up front defensively,

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Speaker 2: that's the most impressive loss. I mean, Baltimore losing on

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Speaker 2: Thursday's an impressive loss. That Ram lost tonight, that's pretty

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Speaker 2: good loss.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: You can lose like Cleveland lost, or like Carolina lost,

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Speaker 2: or like the Giants lost or Washington lost. But this tonight,

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Speaker 2: I mean, you go back and look at film. You

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Speaker 2: fact you could block that front at all with backups

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Speaker 2: everywhere is a testament to how well coached the Rams are.

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Speaker 1: And that was fun.

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Speaker 2: The Thursday stand alone, the Friday standalone, this, and then

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Speaker 2: tomorrow we get Aaron Rodgers against the Niners. You want

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Speaker 2: almost almost anything for Game Day. All right, let's start

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Speaker 2: with Tom Brady's debut. Good God, Cleveland's a disaster. I

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Speaker 2: was sitting there thinking, as I'm watching that game, if

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Speaker 2: and Deshaun Watson, I not only want a great player.

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Speaker 2: want an ascending player. He's virtually none of those. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it's just typical Cleveland. What's ironic after watching Baker today?

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Speaker 2: Baker's a much better quarterback today, John than Deshaun Watson.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't even know what Deshaun Watson is.

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Speaker 2: I mean, changing uniforms. He's a bottom ten quarterback.

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Speaker 1: You know, as funny as I had on the Redskins

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Speaker 1: Prescott signed the same contract, essentially two hundred and thirty

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm getting text constantly. I'm sure you are.

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Speaker 1: at Dak has his flaws in January, very consistent regular

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Speaker 1: that knows him like him. Deshaun Watson, I was out

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Speaker 1: on him last year today, what an embarrassment? Where's the

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Speaker 2: And he was never a hyper athletic or he was

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Speaker 2: He would skip throws. He's not a pretty thrower. He's

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Speaker 2: You know, he was a wildly dynamic athlete. You take

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Speaker 2: He's the soldier Deshaun Watson. If you went through that

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Speaker 2: So I look at Cleveland and I think desperate franchises,

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Speaker 2: desperate owners do dumb things. They're sunk. You can't go

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Speaker 1: Well, the reason they won eleven games was Joe Flacco

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Speaker 1: Let's face it, if I was a Browns fan today,

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Speaker 1: That's gone. Listen, has he lost his confidence? One? But

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Speaker 1: I'm sure they come to his defense. Well, they were

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Speaker 2: I thought, I wrote this down. I thought Mike McCarthy

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Speaker 2: in terms of play calling today, I thought it was sensational.

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Speaker 2: They had a drive in the second quarter. They did everything.

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Speaker 2: bang on Mike McCarthy, but he's a five hundred playoff coach.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to pay Dak sixty million, But good god,

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Speaker 2: two hundred and thirty was guaranteed, so it takes out

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Speaker 2: That's as good as Dallas can play offensively and defensively.

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Speaker 1: To me, how about Jerry, there's no chance. They just

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Speaker 1: for Mike McCarthy because the success DAK has had under him, right,

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Speaker 2: No, there's no question that he is an adult, and

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Speaker 2: and you know it sounds like, you know, oh, that

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Speaker 2: can remember during some cultural movements in America, you know,

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Speaker 1: You got any thoughts, Yeah, I'm not going to try

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Speaker 1: People will be critical love him. It's a tough spot.

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Speaker 1: a Tom Brady guy. I'm not rooting against him, but

428
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Speaker 1: it was tough, tough spot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, No, it was. He was choppy and he just

430
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Speaker 2: didn't quite listen. I've talked for a living. It takes rhythm.

431
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Speaker 2: If I take ten days off, I come back to

432
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Speaker 2: following Monday, I'm rusty, like I need an hour to

433
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Speaker 2: get back into my rhythm. So it's not the easiest thing. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I want to talk about the Bears game. First of all,

435
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:36,960
Speaker 2: the fact that they won a game and passed for

436
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Speaker 2: sixty four yards, so it was interesting. Belichick said something

437
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Speaker 2: last week. I took the Titans to win that game,

438
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Speaker 2: and basically I was on the right side. I felt

439
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:51,240
Speaker 2: for almost the entire game. But Belichick said something this

440
00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 2: week and I took it to heart. Belichick said, I

441
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,919
Speaker 2: wasn't impressed. He was like ten for twenty and I

442
00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,840
Speaker 2: went back and I text somebody who was I know

443
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 2: who's in the NFL who's been critical of him. And

444
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 2: the big question with Caleb is high school and college.

445
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,719
Speaker 2: He can really get in the weeds with his accuracy.

446
00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,920
Speaker 2: He can really get into the high grass and if

447
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 2: you recall Mahomes could do that a little bit in

448
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,199
Speaker 2: his first three years, and then Andy would pull him

449
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 2: back in. Mahomes would get really off mechanically. Stafford's done

450
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Speaker 2: that in his career where it's so easy for Mahomes

451
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Speaker 2: and Stafford. They start side arming two out of three throws,

452
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Speaker 2: the mechanics get sloppy. And I thought with Caleb, he's

453
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Speaker 2: got a defensive coach. So Mahomes has Andy. Stafford at

454
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 2: one point had an offensive coordinator he really connected with.

455
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Speaker 2: Now he has McVeigh. But I think with Caleb is

456
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Speaker 2: when he gets sloppy mechanically, who brings him back on

457
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Speaker 2: the fairway? Because I thought today he struggled at times

458
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Speaker 2: to see things. You know, I thought his decision making

459
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Speaker 2: late in the game and not making mistakes and taking

460
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Speaker 2: what was given forum was fine, but it I mean,

461
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 2: all these guys struggled today. Bo Nicks was as good

462
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Speaker 2: as anybody, and he threw two picks. What did you

463
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Speaker 2: make of Caleb overall today?

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Speaker 1: Well, I think if you go back to Bill's comments,

465
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Speaker 1: He's like, listen, I'm not being a hater, but I

466
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Speaker 1: don't put anything into preseason. And when you're inaccurate in

467
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Speaker 1: the preseason, do you know what hit me today watching

468
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,360
Speaker 1: about ten games in the morning on different TVs and screens.

469
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Speaker 1: You know how the NBA once the playoffs start, You're like,

470
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Speaker 1: what we just witnessed for the last six months doesn't

471
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Speaker 1: even look like the same sport. That's kind of the preseason.

472
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Speaker 1: I mean, the first ten minutes of like ten am

473
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Speaker 1: to like ten thirty, You're watching the Steeler game, the

474
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Speaker 1: Houston Indie game. Guys are flying around and I'm like,

475
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Speaker 1: this doesn't even resemble what we just witnessed. Right, So

476
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Speaker 1: the defensive game plans, all these defensive coordinators, even the

477
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Speaker 1: average ones, are making one and a half two million dollars.

478
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Speaker 1: They're paid a lot of money to do this. The

479
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Speaker 1: physicality of the game rams up the question on Caleb

480
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Speaker 1: he is going to be able to make spectacular throws

481
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Speaker 1: though he wasn't doing that today. I think he was

482
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Speaker 1: really rattled and his confidence was all shot. But can

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Speaker 1: he just make basic throws from in the pocket, whether

484
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Speaker 1: it's a fastball or whether it's a layered throw. And

485
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Speaker 1: it kind of unraveled on him and unraveled on him fast.

486
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Speaker 1: Now the tight Jeffrey Simmons is probably one of the

487
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Speaker 1: better players that the casual fan doesn't know that much

488
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Speaker 1: about because he plays for the Titans. You put him

489
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Speaker 1: on the Cowboys or the Eagles or something, he'd be

490
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Speaker 1: a star. And they were hitting his ass hard and

491
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Speaker 1: he was he was thrown off and will Levis bailed

492
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Speaker 1: their team out. Because if will Levis does him self implode,

493
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Speaker 1: the Titans not only easily should have covered, they should

494
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Speaker 1: win the game. I mean, he looked like Daniel Jones there,

495
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Speaker 1: but Caleb was. He was atrocious today. I mean he

496
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Speaker 1: really was, which is fair because this is what Bill

497
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Speaker 1: and Bill's an old school guy, Sean Payton's all these

498
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Speaker 1: guys that come from the eighties, the nineties, the Bill Parcells.

499
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Speaker 1: They hate hype, you know you and I I like

500
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Speaker 1: some hype, Yeah, I enjoy it. Those guys do not

501
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 1: like it because it doesn't mean anything once you kick

502
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Speaker 1: off week one, and that, like all that hype was

503
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Speaker 1: meaningless today if on third and seven he's skipping a

504
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: ball and he was, and it unraveled fast. The arm strength,

505
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 1: all the talent doesn't mean shit. And like you said,

506
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 1: it gets back to Jayden Daniels. Beside his running didn't

507
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Speaker 1: look great. Bo Nicks, who has an offensive play caller.

508
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Speaker 1: Now he was on the road. Granted was looked overwhelmed

509
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Speaker 1: a lot of the time. Yep, it's hard. This is

510
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Speaker 1: really really. This is why I've said pump the brakes,

511
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Speaker 1: especially on Caleb and the Bears. I don't know, like

512
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Speaker 1: Nick Wright picked him to win the Super Bowl. A

513
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 1: lot of people are hot, you know. He threw that

514
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Speaker 1: out there. I don't know if he actually picked. But

515
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Speaker 1: my point is he could make serious strides as the

516
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Speaker 1: year goes on and they could win seven games. This

517
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 1: is really Look at Sam Darnolly, He's been the league

518
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Speaker 1: for like seven years. Has taken him forever to figure

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Speaker 1: it out. Yeah, no, I'm not easy.

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Speaker 2: No, I said this. I did a piece for Fox

521
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Speaker 2: Sunday and I said, be careful on Caleb Williams. This

522
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 2: is one of the best divisions. This is a franchise

523
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Speaker 2: that ran Trubisky out of town and he made the

524
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Speaker 2: playoffs twice with Aaron Rodgers and Stafford in their prime.

525
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Speaker 2: This media is rough, the weather gets rough by Thanksgiving.

526
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Speaker 2: If they win eight games and he gets better, take it.

527
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Speaker 2: If you could take that today and say he's significantly better,

528
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 2: we win at games we finished third, take it, because

529
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,880
Speaker 2: what success looks like to Dak is not what success

530
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 2: looks like. You know, years ago, you and I grew up,

531
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 2: the hardest thing to do was hit a baseball. Now

532
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 2: that's still really hard. It's still really hard. But quarterback

533
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:33,120
Speaker 2: now has entered that space because it's not a run

534
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,719
Speaker 2: centric league. It's a sixty forty sixty two to thirty

535
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 2: eight passing league, and I mean it's even g You know,

536
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Speaker 2: Smith a veteran today, his best play was a run,

537
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 2: Like this stuff is hard, and I think we just

538
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 2: have to understand. I thought all the quarterbacks looked overwhelmed.

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Speaker 2: I thought bow Nicks had a little rhythm at one

540
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Speaker 2: point in the game where he felt like I felt

541
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Speaker 2: like bow seeing the game. It wasn't doing much, but

542
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 2: he was seeing the game, he was seeing the field,

543
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Speaker 2: and he was facing a new defensive head coach. So

544
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 2: all twenty four points today were scored by defense and

545
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 2: special teams. Will Levis to me, is done. He's baked.

546
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 2: I don't think his college game looks like his pro game.

547
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 2: Doesn't see the field. Terrible judgment. I think Caleb's going

548
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 2: to be fine, But to your point, he looked overwhelmed.

549
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 2: And I think the other thing is if you opened

550
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 2: up on the road, It's different, dude. He opened up

551
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 2: in Chicago. The weather was perfect. That a buddy at

552
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,400
Speaker 2: the game like there was a lot of fricking heat

553
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 2: on Caleb today, like a lot of pressure on Caleb.

554
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Speaker 1: Well, that's where if you know, if you take bo Nicks,

555
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Speaker 1: you take Caleb. Bo Nix is in Seattle where the

556
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 1: place is really loud and he could barely hear himself.

557
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 1: Think Caleb gets a pretty BP fastball of twelve o'clock

558
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 1: kickoff in Chicago. I'm a huge believer in two things.

559
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Speaker 1: For young people, whether you're a professional athlete or just

560
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: a normal person in society, confidence can be lost really quickly,

561
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Speaker 1: and it can be hard to gain. I would say,

562
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Speaker 1: you know in your early twenties and when you are

563
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 1: everyone's looking at you. When you start losing confidence, it

564
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: can spiral and the only thing you ever have to

565
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: go back on is your experience. But as a young player,

566
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Speaker 1: you don't have any experience. Like Geno today, you're watching

567
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 1: early on, You're like gott Seattle looks weird, He's been

568
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: through it. Dak today. All these guys have so much

569
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Speaker 1: experience that they don't freak out over one drive. They

570
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 1: don't freak out over a bad quarter. And you just

571
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: watch Kleb. You just felt it snowballing and what does

572
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 1: he have to go back on? Nothing? And it's not

573
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 1: like he can look over there and Bill Walsh's on

574
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Speaker 1: the sideline and be like, listen, I've been doing this

575
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 1: for thirty years, won a couple of Super Bowls. I'm

576
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Speaker 1: gonna call three plays, get you a couple of layups.

577
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: And they were just they were very scattered. Yes, they

578
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 1: felt very I mean there was one point in time

579
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 1: in that game before Will Levis just pooped down his

580
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: own leg where you're like, are they gonna lose twenty

581
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 1: eight to ten? Yeah, and just be the number one

582
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 1: story of the day tomorrow morning that the Bears and

583
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: Caleb specifically are not nearly as good as we think

584
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Speaker 1: because now and I really think that you can defensive turnovers,

585
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: like if they're playing a top, if they're playing just

586
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield or Genus.

587
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 2: They have blown out, they get killed.

588
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I mean they get killed. And I'm not

589
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Speaker 1: jumping on Caleb here, which I would imagine is going

590
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: to happen a lot this week. I just think everyone

591
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: this is so much more difficult at the NFL level

592
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Speaker 1: than college, even if you're playing at a high level

593
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Speaker 1: of college. And Caleb was playing a lot of good

594
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Speaker 1: teams in college, but the level of athlete, the level

595
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Speaker 1: of speed, he just did the rhythm. I mean, it

596
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 1: was just it was glaring.

597
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Speaker 2: And the level of coaching, you know, there's no grad

598
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Speaker 2: assistance on these staffs. Man, you're talking about the very best.

599
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Speaker 2: I mean, Jesus, you look at USC this year with

600
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Speaker 2: the same defensive players, upgraded coach. I mean there's so many.

601
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Speaker 2: There are bad college coaches. I mean guys like Mike

602
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 2: Zimmer or X and he's been fired. Mike Zimmer is

603
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 2: a great coach. So in the NFL, it's very rare.

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00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 2: When you get up Brandon Staley, you're like, Okay, that

605
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 2: guy's over his skis completely Freddie Kitchens, Yep, that's not

606
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 2: gonna work. Overwhelmingly, almost everybody in this league is excellent.

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Speaker 1: Well, one of my favorite bests today was Tampa over Washington,

608
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Speaker 1: just one. I don't think Washington is any good. Tampa's

609
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: made the playoffs for four years. They are loaded with

610
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: NFL players all over the place, and Baker and I

611
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 1: was close to where you stood on him. The change

612
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: he's had as just the way he carries himself. Obviously,

613
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: the way he plays Washington is they just don't have

614
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 1: the talent, right. And I think you saw all these

615
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: three rookie quarterbacks. The difference of Jayden and the other two.

616
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: He can really take off. I mean he can really run,

617
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: and that kind of neutralized and kept the game somewhat

618
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: close for a while. But these coaches are gonna put

619
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Speaker 1: you You're just gonna end up in third and long.

620
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Speaker 1: And this is not college, like you're gonna have to

621
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: sit in there and there's gonna be your You don't

622
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: have seven seconds, like there's gonna be plays where you

623
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: gotta get rid of it in two and a half.

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Speaker 1: That's why watching Deshaun Watson, who's been a pronown for

625
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 1: a while, it's like he has no clock. It's like

626
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: you either got to throw the ball away. I bet

627
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: Tom Brady's in there thinking like, what the hell am

628
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: I watching get rid of the ball? I understand those

629
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 1: young quarterbacks not knowing the time. To me, that's more

630
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: than fair. I think it also shows how difficult it

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Speaker 1: is for young quarterbacks. And I know a lot of

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00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: the listen I was high on Denver. It's gonna be

633
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: a roller coaster ride for all three guys, which is

634
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: more than fair in the history of the league.

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Speaker 2: It's time for this week's player I thought might give

636
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 2: almost almost anything to redo his game. Brought to you

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Speaker 2: by Uber Eats. This week, Will Levis Titans quarterback Oh

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Speaker 2: brutal Titans blew a seventeen oh lead over Chicago. That

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Speaker 1: Order.

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Speaker 2: Right now, I want to talk Raiders Chargers. It was

644
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 2: the most predictable, at least stylistically, it was the most

645
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 2: predictable game.

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Speaker 1: It was a rock fight. It was just.

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00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 2: Physical, brutal, tough. I mean, it was not pretty. But

648
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 2: my favorite part of this game is basically the same

649
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 2: defense as last year. They were in the right spot.

650
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 2: I mean, they had one kind of mistackle on a

651
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 2: play that ended up being a big play for the Raiders.

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Speaker 2: But justin Herbert goes sixteen of twenty five for one

653
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty five yards, no touchdowns, no picks, and

654
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Speaker 2: I'm like, he's going to do that several times this year,

655
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Speaker 2: and people are going to bang on Justin Herbert. I

656
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 2: watched that game and I'm like, Hardbaugh's looking at that talent.

657
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 2: Pretty light at tight end and wide receiver, not a

658
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 2: lot of game breakers. Okay at running back, better than average,

659
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Speaker 2: maybe not great. Harbaugh looked at that game today and thought,

660
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,080
Speaker 2: and I think they're going to win this. Stylistically, this

661
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 2: is how the Chargers will win. They'll ugly it up.

662
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 2: Herbert won't make any mistakes, He'll make four to five

663
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 2: big throws, no interceptions, make the right reads. This felt

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Speaker 2: It almost felt like Harbaugh his first year at Michigan,

665
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,439
Speaker 2: taken over for Brady Hope. He didn't have a lot

666
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 2: of elite playmakers, but he won ten games on just

667
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 2: situational field position, toughness. And then over the course of

668
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 2: two or three years, he couldn't beat Ohio State. He

669
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 2: was losing games you think they should win, but they

670
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:34,320
Speaker 2: didn't have NFL players. The Chargers boss great Derwin James

671
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Speaker 2: is fantastic, so was Herbert. Rashaun Slater's a good left

672
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Speaker 2: tackle and not a lot of guys everybody would vie

673
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Speaker 2: for if they were on the market. I thought that

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Speaker 2: game was exactly how you have to win if you're

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Speaker 2: the Chargers with Harbaugh this year.

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Speaker 1: With that talent. Yeah, I think if you remove the quarterbacks,

677
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:57,880
Speaker 1: they're the same team, right, They're very similar. Herbert I

678
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,040
Speaker 1: didn't even know his box score. I thought he I

679
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 1: ate some big, big throws down the stretch. Yeah, he

680
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: made some big throws down the stretch. And then I

681
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: had the game on mute was a Dobbins busted the

682
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: big run. That is Listen, their team is not going

683
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,760
Speaker 1: to be a sexy watch this year. And the Raiders

684
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Speaker 1: if they had justin Herbert, would be the same thing.

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Speaker 1: They'd have to win a lot of games, kind of

686
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Speaker 1: like the Chiefs did last year. Mucky it up, ugly

687
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Speaker 1: it up, and try to win nineteen to fourteen, nineteen

688
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: to seventeen. And I think when you watch, you know,

689
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Speaker 1: let's look at that division. Right, Like I had either

690
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,400
Speaker 1: Denver the Chargers making the playoffs. I kind of waffled

691
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Speaker 1: back and forth. I think it is going to be difficult.

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Speaker 1: Now we'll have to see how the rest of the

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Speaker 1: AFC plays out. It's obviously gonna be hard for Denver

694
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Speaker 1: with a rookie quarterback and playing on the road, the

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Speaker 1: Raiders have no shot Harbad does just because of this quarterback.

696
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Speaker 1: I mean, the guy's talent. Some of these guys that

697
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,759
Speaker 1: hate on him. It's like, one you were either just

698
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 1: trying to be like counterculture and just sound different, or

699
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: two you know nobody in football because nobody thinks that, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, just lest of the way Jim talks about him.

701
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Speaker 1: I think over the next couple of years, and when

702
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Speaker 1: we saw how Jim has built at Michigan, they're gonna

703
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: be a serious problem as he teaches Justin Herbert how

704
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 1: to win in the NFL. But they got their talent deficient. Yeah, clearly,

705
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: clearly on offense. And the one thing as the season goes,

706
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,240
Speaker 1: and this goes back to the rookie quarterbacks, these defensive coordinators.

707
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: I mean, they worked eighteen hours a day. They're gonna

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Speaker 1: get nine guys in the box and Herbert's gonna have

709
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Speaker 1: to beat him with kind of random wide receivers.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: If they had Keenan Allen and Mike Williams in their prime,

712
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: to me, they would be a lock playoff team. But

713
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: they had to pivot off those guys because of the money.

714
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,920
Speaker 1: But it's Jim's a winner. So betting against Jim to

715
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: me seems moronic. I mean, it's just it's not gonna work. Now.

716
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Speaker 1: Is he gonna win ten games this year? I don't know,

717
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,760
Speaker 1: but he's gonna have a chance to go above five hundred.

718
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Speaker 1: I bet when the dust settles come December, how about it.

719
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Speaker 2: Antonio appears punting on a fourth and one late in

720
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Speaker 2: the game, and I thought, I thought it was interesting

721
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,080
Speaker 2: because I thought, well, that's what defensive coaches do. By

722
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 2: the way, even Mike McDonald, the new Seahawk coach, in

723
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 2: a win, super conservative down the stretch Denver had a

724
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 2: chance to get the ball back and win the game.

725
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,800
Speaker 2: It was like, defensive guys, oh my god, I'm watching

726
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 2: Antonio Pierce. I'm like, dude, you can't be conservative with

727
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 2: that football team. The only way the Raiders can win

728
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 2: six games is big swings, because you just don't. And

729
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 2: by the way, teams with weak quarterback play will get

730
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 2: worse over the season because the defense will be on

731
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:38,399
Speaker 2: the field for more snaps. Defensive players get hurt more

732
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 2: than offensive players statistically in the league. So a team

733
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 2: like the Raiders, you get to like week four to

734
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 2: five to six when the defense is literally on the

735
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 2: field the whole game. You're going to be losing guys

736
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 2: left and right. You got to take swings.

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Speaker 1: I think one of the elephants in the room in

738
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 1: that game, and you saw him a couple times on

739
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: the sideline, is DeVante Adams on that team. Makes no

740
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: sense none. And if people still think he can play,

741
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: if you his value has diminished because as time goes on,

742
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: you make a lot of money and you don't produce

743
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: it the same way, you're just not worth as much.

744
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: But if you can get rid of him at the

745
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: trade deadline for a second and a third, like to me,

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00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 1: that's it's probably time to pivot. I get not trading

747
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 1: Max Crosby because those guys are hard to find, but

748
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 1: a wide receiver with a team with no quarterback. It

749
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 1: also shows you that Gardner Minshew like, there's such a difference.

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Speaker 1: Sam Darnold everyone hated and right, I mean, he was

751
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,839
Speaker 1: bad in the spots, but then look who believed in him.

752
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan signed him last March and immediately Trey Lance

753
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: was dead on arrival. His career ended the moment he signed,

754
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 1: and then by he spends a year. One thing he

755
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 1: talked about is like I saw Purty work well. Obviously

756
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: Perdy's work ethic has to be elite for him to

757
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 1: have success, right with his physical tools, and he's like,

758
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,359
Speaker 1: I really opened my eyes. This is a fifth six

759
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,839
Speaker 1: year player saying he's watched a second year guy. He's

760
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 1: never been around that, and his physical attributes relative to

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Speaker 1: Minschew both those guys with the Bridge quarterbacks this offseason,

762
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: it's not even in the same ballpark. Minshew's a great story.

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00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 1: He's a good backup if you were forced to start

764
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: them week one, and now it feels like a couple

765
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,320
Speaker 1: of teams have been forced to over the course of

766
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 1: his career. You're just done, like your season is over

767
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: before it even begins. And Sam Darnold like, is he

768
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: gonna sustain this all season? I don't know, but his

769
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 1: physical attributes and clearly people like the guy. He just

770
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 1: needed to get around some real offensive coaches. Now we

771
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: see back to back years, Kyle Shanahan thn Kevin o'connelly

772
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: gets a chance to play. I understand he's playing the

773
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 1: Giants and they suck. But Colin he looked pretty good today.

774
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Speaker 2: Let's talk about that. He went nineteen and twenty four

775
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 2: at one point, I think he was ten for ten

776
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 2: two hundred and eight yards two tds. Yeah, and it

777
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 2: really touches on something. I always have sympathy for people

778
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 2: like this. I got very lucky my first job out

779
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 2: of college. I was in Vegas and it couldn't have

780
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 2: been a better place for me to work. I got

781
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 2: a really good news director who believed in me. I

782
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 2: had good pace people around me. And if you look

783
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 2: at my career, I've had really smart people, agents, content people,

784
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 2: and my career wouldn't be like this if I didn't

785
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 2: get people that supported me and believed in me. And

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying, you know, Adam Gase, I thought he

787
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 2: would be good because Peyton Manning has said he was

788
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 2: going to be good and it just didn't work. But

789
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 2: I mean he's been at the Jets, he's been at Carolina.

790
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 2: It's like, I have sympathy for people that I know

791
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 2: who are talented, and I've worked with people in my

792
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 2: business like this. Hell, you're a great example. Every one

793
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,399
Speaker 2: of my friends loves you. You've done great for us.

794
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 2: You got to let go by an AM radio station

795
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 2: in the Bay. I'm not blaming anybody, but it's like

796
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 2: every Yeah, by the way, at the volume we've made,

797
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 2: our business is basically finding people who we think are

798
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 2: really good, and we think they were a place that

799
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 2: doesn't understand how good they are. You were one of them.

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Speaker 2: So the thing about Sam Darnold is look at who

801
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 2: likes him. Shanahan liked them, Adam Gase actually liked him

802
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 2: a lot early. Kevin O'Connell likes him. If you start

803
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 2: asking around the league. I know when it was funny

804
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 2: when Christian McCaffrey had a wedding, there was like, you know,

805
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 2: I saw nine of the guys there to one of

806
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 2: them was Sam Donald like players like Sam, and I

807
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 2: thought today, if you watch that game, every time Sam

808
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 2: went back to pass, you could literally see it as

809
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 2: a viewer, as a consumer, they had Sam knew where

810
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 2: he was going, He wasn't ad libbing. Sam knew where

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Speaker 2: he was throwing the football. And it's like that's the difference.

812
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 2: I mean, go look the Jared Goff with Jeff Fisher

813
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 2: and then with McVeigh. He was a bust. He was

814
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Speaker 2: a disaster. And then you're like, oh shit, he's going

815
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 2: to totoe with Mahomes on Monday night football. What's going

816
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,800
Speaker 2: on here. So I watched Donald. Their schedule's brutal. I

817
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 2: think they were a seven win eight win team. But

818
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Speaker 2: when I watched him today, I'm like, oh, he finally

819
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 2: got his kingmaker right.

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Speaker 1: You know. It's funny. People ask me all the time, like,

821
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Speaker 1: you know, I want to get into the podcast business.

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00:41:58,520 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 1: Do you have any advice? I'm like, yeah, just find

823
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:04,479
Speaker 1: a coward, that's what you need, because, like you said,

824
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 1: I mean, there are players are no different than a

825
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 1: lot of people in a lot of different industries. There

826
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: are probably some really talented players on Carolina that no

827
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: one's gonna notice, right, And look at Carson Wentz, he

828
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,760
Speaker 1: was out of the league. And then who was interested

829
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: last year Sean McVeigh, and what had happened to him

830
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: this offseason? Bret Veach Andy Reid signed him. So perception

831
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: becomes reality. The NFL is a lot like a high school.

832
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: People talk, you know, fair not narratives become truce and

833
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: it's hard to shake it off. And only it's rare

834
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 1: that a guy like Sam Darnold truly gets like a

835
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 1: cool opportunity. He has opportunity if he plays really well.

836
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Speaker 1: They just drafted JJ McCarthy. They have no choice but

837
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: the pivot and let's they like win the Super Bowl

838
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 1: or something. Who say the Raiders won't give him some

839
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 1: money or a team like that this offseason, right, and

840
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 1: like some guys are completely overwhelmed. Look at Trey Lance.

841
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: He got drafted to Kyle Shanahan and they're out. Yeah,

842
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,720
Speaker 1: and then he goes to Mike McCarthy's great with quarterback.

843
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 1: He's like, he's our third string quarterback. Like I'm sorry,

844
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Speaker 1: I'm out on him. Right, that's not meat had defensive

845
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 1: guys not willing to like see your talent. Now. I

846
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 1: do think we have his historical similarities of guys that

847
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 1: were high draft picks. I remember living in the Bay Area.

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Speaker 1: You know they talk about like Jim Plunkett, high draft

849
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 1: pick fell apart and then the Raiders got him. We've

850
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 1: seen Rich Gannon as an example. You see guys kind

851
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 1: of bounce around. They get with the rights fit and

852
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 1: they get with the right guy to believe in them.

853
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: And the good thing for Sam is Kyle O'Connell are

854
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 1: the same umbrella. We'll look around the league. There's like

855
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: seventeen of them all over the price. So if you

856
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: all know the offense, his demand. He doesn't have to

857
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: do this every week, but if he can just prove

858
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: to have them in the wild card conversation come after Thanksgiving,

859
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,760
Speaker 1: I think he's going to be a starting quarterback. I mean, Colin,

860
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 1: I'm watching Bryce Young and that's the organization clearly has issue.

861
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 1: He looks completely overwhelmed. Overwhelmed. Deshaun Watson wouldn't be a

862
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 1: starting quarterback long if his contract was. There are a

863
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: lot of quarterbacks, Jacoby Brissett. I mean there are a lot.

864
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: And I understand he won today, but he threw for

865
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 1: like one hundred and twenty yards. I mean, there are

866
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: a lot of guys playing in this league today that

867
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 1: just are not going to be playing for long. So

868
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,720
Speaker 1: when you can prove it. No one's ever disputed Sam's

869
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:21,879
Speaker 1: physical characteristics. And if you know the Shanahan offense, which

870
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: I would say is one of the more complex, and

871
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 1: now you know, like the intricacies of O'Connell that brings

872
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 1: some of McVeigh, they're all kind of interconnected. I think

873
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: he's got a pretty bright future if he can just

874
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:31,319
Speaker 1: keep building on this.

875
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he had some tight window throws, red zone.

876
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,439
Speaker 1: Throws when he looked good. He looked good.

877
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 2: I thought, Sam, I thought he looked really good. You know,

878
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 2: it's I want to talk about the Broncos and Seahawks,

879
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 2: because again I thought Bo had his moments. I'm watching Seattle,

880
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 2: and I say this respectively to Pete Carroll. I think

881
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 2: Seattle has elite talent. I just don't think people know

882
00:44:55,440 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 2: the players. But walker their wide receivers, they have tremendous

883
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 2: young corners. They got a consistent pass rush. They got

884
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,680
Speaker 2: the Murphy kid in the draft, the top defensive tackle

885
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:12,040
Speaker 2: a fan left today. It's Gino is what he is, like,

886
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 2: He's a really solid he's a great story.

887
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: He is what he is.

888
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 2: He's not gonna lose you a lot of games. He's

889
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 2: not gonna win you a lot of games. But I'm

890
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 2: watching that game today and Sean Payton coached his ass

891
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 2: off for a half.

892
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 1: He got them.

893
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 2: I mean a lot of this was Seattle do it

894
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 2: getting safeties, and it was quirky, and then all of

895
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:29,799
Speaker 2: a sudden, by the second half, you're like, Okay, now

896
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 2: we're off script. And now Bo Nix is a rookie

897
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:35,280
Speaker 2: quarterback and he just you know, that's the difference between

898
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 2: a veteran Dak in the second half and bo Nicks

899
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 2: in the second half. Both like, Okay, now they adjusted,

900
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 2: So I got the everything on the script. I figured out.

901
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 2: Now it's all off script. And I'm watching that Seattle team,

902
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 2: John and I think you called him one of the

903
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,919
Speaker 2: surprise teams. I'll just say it right now. Maybe they're

904
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 2: not Baltimore. I think they are really talented. They really

905
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 2: They fly around the field defensively.

906
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 1: I actually was kind of on the other side, but

907
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: their talent. My issue with them is they've been they

908
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 1: were poorly coached, but they've been winning nine games. You know,

909
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: it's not like they've been winning five. And yeah, that's

910
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 1: why I'm sanseled. How do they go from Do you

911
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,280
Speaker 1: think they could win eleven? I still think their offensive

912
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: line has some question marks. They get today, they got punked.

913
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 1: Gino has his limitations, But you're right. I mean, Kenneth Walker,

914
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 1: there's a chance at the end of the year he's

915
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: a top five running back. Yeah, how about the catch

916
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,840
Speaker 1: Lockett made to seal the game. He's their third wide

917
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: receiver and he's been there though.

918
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 2: Jesus, he's been great for ten years.

919
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: He's got to be one of the more underappreciated players

920
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: of his generation might not even be close. I think

921
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 1: I could play for my team any day now. If

922
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:47,800
Speaker 1: their defense is better, they still might be a nine

923
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: ish win team. But could they beat the forty nine

924
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 1: ers in again, because they haven't beat the forty nine

925
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,240
Speaker 1: ers in five games him two years ago in the playoffs.

926
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 1: So if they if they can play at a more

927
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 1: physical brand, My question marks you never know where the

928
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 1: coordinator into a head coach. He's young. I think he's

929
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: thirty seven years old. And their offensive coordinator, who we

930
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 1: all loved in college, who was de bors right Heim,

931
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 1: had never coached in the NFL. They showed his resume

932
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:11,919
Speaker 1: to day he was a Sioux Falls not that long ago.

933
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 1: That's a pretty quick jump. Now he clearly knows what

934
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 1: he's doing, and so their coaching staff might just be better.

935
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: I saw I watch John Schnyder's press conference at the

936
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: end of training camp. You can tell he thinks they

937
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: got something. Not he knows their team is talented, but

938
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 1: like he thinks the coaching staff's pretty good. So like,

939
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 1: can they beat McVeigh and Kyle? Can they split? Can

940
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:34,839
Speaker 1: they go to and two? Because if they can, then

941
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 1: maybe they're not nine to eight, they're ten and seven,

942
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 1: and they're like the six or seven seed. I would

943
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 1: say that's possible. Not going to overreact to playing Denver

944
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 1: who It's just you could tell they're a little talent

945
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: defision still with the rookie quarterback. But yeah, I mean

946
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 1: it's hard not to He's an easy guy to root for.

947
00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,280
Speaker 1: Geno's an easy guy to root for. I just wonder

948
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:58,239
Speaker 1: in Sunday Night Monday Night games and Tom Brady calling

949
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 1: it if you're both four and one, or however the

950
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 1: schedule and you're playing the Rams or you're playing the Niners,

951
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: are you I'm not picking Gino Smith Homer Away. Yeah.

952
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 2: I will say this about bo Nix and I had

953
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,280
Speaker 2: talked about this because I saw him play live twice.

954
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 2: He is much more mobile than people give him credit for.

955
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 2: Way more mobile. He ran in for a touchdown today

956
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 2: on a pump fake. He you know it's he looks smallish.

957
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,360
Speaker 2: You don't think you know sixty one college starts. You

958
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 2: don't see m as a great athlete. I thought today

959
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:33,399
Speaker 2: he I know, one of the interceptions was a great play.

960
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 2: And I love the Seahawk corners and again, they're all overwhelmed.

961
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 2: They don't have a ton to work with. I don't

962
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 2: know how good their offensive line is. I think Bonnix

963
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 2: is gonna work. I don't think they want a ton

964
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 2: of games. But when I watched him today, I never

965
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 2: felt he was rattled. I thought he made two throws

966
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,800
Speaker 2: that were like rookie throws in the second half. I'm like, oh, Jesus,

967
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 2: bo But I kind of like, bake that in. Like,

968
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 2: I don't know. When I watched him today, I fore

969
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 2: filthy was you know, I kind of just my low

970
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 2: after watching Caleb. I'm like, Jesus, this is rough. I

971
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 2: watched them and I was like, if you told me

972
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 2: by Thanksgiving it all clicked, I'd be like, all right,

973
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 2: I could see it.

974
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 1: Well, you know what where it's set in with me

975
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 1: is last night at eleven o'clock at night watching the

976
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 1: Big Ten play. They had multiple Big Ten games going

977
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:27,879
Speaker 1: Oregon in usc Your Trojans look better in Oregon right now.

978
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 2: That's the Organ's a mess.

979
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 1: There's a drop off at quarterback. Dylan Gabriel has been

980
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 1: a productive player, but there is a dramatic difference between

981
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel, who's probably not even a draft pick and

982
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: a guy that was just a top fifteen pick immediate

983
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 1: starter a week one, Like that's a pretty big deal.

984
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,760
Speaker 1: Right when you look at Oregon, I know they got

985
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,240
Speaker 1: their offensive line is a mess. But if your offensive

986
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: line is a mess, and this goes back to Cleveland,

987
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: if your quarterback can be mobile, you either got to

988
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:56,800
Speaker 1: do two things what Peyton and Toalm could do forever

989
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 1: they played with a lot of average offensive line. Get

990
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 1: rid of the ball like that, yea, or run around

991
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 1: for your life Lamar Jackson the other night and you

992
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,399
Speaker 1: get caught like Deshaun Watson. You're kind of doing neither well.

993
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: Bo Nicks can scramble, Jayden Daniels can scramble. Yeah, So

994
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: if your offensive line's gonna suck and you're not gonna

995
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 1: pick you apart in the pocket really quick, you gotta

996
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 1: be able to move and bow speed translates like physically

997
00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: to me, Like talent wise, everyone anoints Caleb as this

998
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 1: all time great talent. He's really talented to me, Like

999
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 1: Josh Allen and John Elway are probably on their own

1000
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 1: little tier. But I think bo Nick's physical attributes are

1001
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,879
Speaker 1: like a plus characteristic. Yeah, like they got that going now.

1002
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 1: He threw a pick in the red zone like it's

1003
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 1: it's it's hard. But yeah, I'm not out on him

1004
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 1: by any means. I've actually he's really grown on me.

1005
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,319
Speaker 1: He's a guy that during the preseason even to day,

1006
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 1: like that's tough to go on the road against a

1007
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator who's a head coach. They're flying around. Can't

1008
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:55,960
Speaker 1: hear yourself think like that's it's a tough, tough environment

1009
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 1: in those spots like this is back to Caleb and

1010
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: Bo they're Enviirelan's were completely different. One was home. One

1011
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 1: was like a cater dinner, and the other one was

1012
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,839
Speaker 1: like make a five star meal. Here's mayonnaise and here's

1013
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:11,240
Speaker 1: a piece of beef. Right now, it's like, it's difficult.

1014
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 2: I want to talk about Buffalo in Arizona. So I

1015
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 2: watched Kansas City and Baltimore play, and then I watched

1016
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 2: Green Bay and Philadelphia. So I see those four teams

1017
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:30,760
Speaker 2: and I see all this offense. And then I watched

1018
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 2: Houston today. It's just got nothing but ballers offensively. Then

1019
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 2: I watched Dallas today and I'm sitting there looking around

1020
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:42,400
Speaker 2: watching Buffalo in Arizona. Kyler Murray's beyond clever. I mean,

1021
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 2: he's just a little pitter patter of feet.

1022
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,640
Speaker 1: He's a great watch. I don't know how many games

1023
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,359
Speaker 1: they'll win, but he's on TV. He's great's fun.

1024
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 2: But I watched Buffalo and I'm like, you're not You're

1025
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:55,879
Speaker 2: not Kansas City, Kansas you had a chance to beat

1026
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 2: Kansas City. They have added elements now between worthy, they

1027
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 2: have a second tight end. They brought Juju Smith, Schuster,

1028
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:06,399
Speaker 2: Hollywood Brown. They still have Isaiah Pacheco. I'm like, no,

1029
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 2: Kansas City's got firepower, Dallas has firepower. Houston's got a

1030
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 2: lot of firepower. Baltimore's got firepower. Jordan loves out for

1031
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,080
Speaker 2: about a month, but Green Bay and Philly have firepower.

1032
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 2: We know the Rams and San Francisco will move the ball.

1033
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 2: I watch Buffalo of Today and I'm like, it took

1034
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 2: him a while to get cooking. John. I don't know

1035
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 2: if windows closed, but I don't think they can. I

1036
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 2: don't think they can keep up with a lot of

1037
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 2: these AFC teams.

1038
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 1: Why I would push back that I loved the Cardinals

1039
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 1: plus six and a half because Kyler's such a difficult

1040
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 1: guy to play week one when you haven't had no

1041
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,160
Speaker 1: game experience. You're not used to the speed of the

1042
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 1: NFL as we already talked to in terms of your team,

1043
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 1: Like the speed of Week one compared to like two

1044
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 1: weeks ago in a preseason game is night and day.

1045
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 1: So I give you a pass of just running around

1046
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 1: because they do have a good pass rush. They're just

1047
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 1: gonna eat up a lot more immobile quarterbacks like Tua.

1048
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 1: And if we're gonna give Baltimore credit, Lamar happened to

1049
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 1: pull stuff out of his you know what, every other

1050
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,959
Speaker 1: play because their offensive line isn't good. Josh is doing

1051
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 1: the same thing. And I think the question mark with

1052
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 1: both guys. You know, by the end of the game,

1053
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 1: I'm looking up. I got him on a muted TV.

1054
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 1: They're wrapping his arm. I mean, he's just taken shot

1055
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 1: after shot. He is. I didn't I was too young

1056
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 1: to remember, like the young, physical dominant Lway, but that

1057
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 1: is as dominant of a physical specimen who can run

1058
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:31,919
Speaker 1: and pass. You know, Cam was always hit or missed

1059
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 1: with the pass. Yeah, as a runner, he's probably the

1060
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 1: most dominant runner of all time. Josh is the ultimate

1061
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 1: combo of them both because he's a better pass than Lamar.

1062
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 1: Lamar's faster than him, But I mean, you can truck

1063
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:45,239
Speaker 1: basically any linebacker on the defensive back. You've been talking

1064
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 1: about this for a while. You just get worried when

1065
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 1: you play like that. Yeah, eventually you're gonna get a

1066
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:53,240
Speaker 1: broken arm or a broken clavical. But I think that there.

1067
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 1: I think there's a grittiness of that team. Like there

1068
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 1: was a moment you looked up and it was like,

1069
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:00,440
Speaker 1: are they gonna get their ass kicked? And then the boom.

1070
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 1: I had a buddy text, He's like, should I hammer

1071
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:03,879
Speaker 1: the money line? You get him like plus one eighty

1072
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 1: right now, Like I don't hate it? And then boom,

1073
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 1: they scored two touchdowns. Yes, and then all of a

1074
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 1: sudden they had the lead. Now granted it was at home,

1075
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:11,720
Speaker 1: but I thought once they kind of realized the speed

1076
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:13,320
Speaker 1: of Murray, they sacked them a couple times in the

1077
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 1: second half. I think their front's gonna be pretty good.

1078
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 1: And I'm just I'm just a Josh Diehard believer. I mean,

1079
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 1: I think he's just one of been watching football now

1080
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 1: thirty years. I think he's one of the best talents

1081
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:25,760
Speaker 1: I've ever seen. Oh, he's just turned into a great player.

1082
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 1: That he could Shakir. The Boise State Ride receivers really good. Yeah,

1083
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 1: their run game is the best it's been. And I

1084
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 1: do think they built like they did show something last year.

1085
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:36,719
Speaker 1: I'm with you, like, can they beat Kansas City in

1086
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 1: a playoff game? If they played right now? Kansasity is

1087
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 1: much better team.

1088
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 2: You know, it's funny. I'm looking at you.

1089
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 1: I think there's a greatness to the squad, though it's.

1090
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 2: They were not very good on third down. It's funny.

1091
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,279
Speaker 2: I looked at him today and I just thought, I

1092
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 2: don't know if they can keep up. Now, everybody goes,

1093
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:52,759
Speaker 2: we'll call them. They scored thirty four points, are gonna

1094
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 2: be fine. It's more than that. But you know, it's

1095
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 2: funny when I look at them, they only average cook

1096
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 2: on the ever's three point seven yards per rush, three

1097
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 2: for nine on third down.

1098
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 1: You know what they have going for him, Colin, Let's

1099
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 1: remove Kansas City, who was like the Jordan Bulls right now?

1100
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 1: Who The Bengals look like absolute dog poop today. I mean,

1101
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 1: what an awful I mean, that's got to be the

1102
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:21,800
Speaker 1: worst loss of the day to lose to the Patriots

1103
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 1: at home.

1104
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 2: So, you know, I think Houston I think that win

1105
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 2: today was much more impressive than people give it credit for.

1106
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 1: Totally great. I think Indy's good, Yeah, I think I

1107
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 1: think that was a playoff level game between those are

1108
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 1: two good teams. You know, the Steelers are gonna have

1109
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:40,640
Speaker 1: to win a lot of games eighteen to twelve, right,

1110
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 1: the Browns have a ton of issues. We'll see the

1111
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:47,359
Speaker 1: Jets Monday night. I know the Dolphins pulled out a win.

1112
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 1: I think Doug Peterson did a couple of weird things

1113
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,560
Speaker 1: play Colin Wise, I think that game was That game

1114
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 1: was bizarre. But I am not a believer in the Dolphins.

1115
00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:58,280
Speaker 1: So one thing the Bills have going for him Texas

1116
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 1: was some people in Kansas City, They're like, god, Lamar

1117
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:02,400
Speaker 1: is really hard to play, But can you play like

1118
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 1: that throughout the entire season? Now, Obviously you're not playing

1119
00:56:05,560 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 1: the Chiefs every week, so he's not gonna need one hundred

1120
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 1: and fifty yards, But whenever they play a good team,

1121
00:56:09,640 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 1: they're gonna need Lamar to be this incredible. So you

1122
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: just look around the AFC, like, I just think the

1123
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 1: NFC is better, right, I mean, Philly's still figuring things out.

1124
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,799
Speaker 1: Dallas today, we'll see the Niners, we'll see the Lion. Like.

1125
00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 1: I just think the NFC is pretty stacked. So you

1126
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:25,560
Speaker 1: look for the Bills, you go, Yeah, they got some

1127
00:56:25,600 --> 00:56:27,360
Speaker 1: young players they're relying on, but they still got the

1128
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 1: second best quarterback in the NFL, right, and a coach

1129
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 1: that kind of knows how to win. They've won the

1130
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 1: division four straight years, yea, and a group of kind

1131
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:38,799
Speaker 1: of core guys. So I'm still a believer. No, I mean,

1132
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 1: I know if I pick them to win the Super Bowl,

1133
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't pick them to beat the Chiefs, but

1134
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 1: I think they could beat any other team in the AFC.

1135
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm probably too hard on them. I found the

1136
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:49,879
Speaker 2: game wildly entertaining. I guess they you know, it's funny.

1137
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 2: As I watched them, I kept thinking, God, they're so

1138
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 2: Josh Allen freaking reliant, and then I look at it

1139
00:56:56,160 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 2: and it's, you know, in fairness, Coleman had cash Is

1140
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:03,959
Speaker 2: Shakier's a clever player. Yeah, and you know you start

1141
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 2: looking at it cook. Yeah, I think their yards per

1142
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 2: catch were greater than I give them credit for. The

1143
00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 2: Other thing about Buffalo, They're just in a lot of

1144
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 2: crazy ass games. Houston's in a lot of those they are.

1145
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 2: Buffalo's just in a lot of big games, crazy games,

1146
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 2: and I think that's just sort of their hallmark. Now

1147
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 2: we've seen them in so many memorable games.

1148
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:25,439
Speaker 1: Well, I think if you look at Buffalo, they play

1149
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 1: in the offensive version of the Steelers, who play in

1150
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 1: the defensive version of the same game. It's like going

1151
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 1: back and forth. Anything could happen, fumble sixes, crazy sacks

1152
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 1: for Buffalo's games, or just a lot of touchdowns and

1153
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 1: it's Josh scoring a lot. They're more likely to be

1154
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:44,640
Speaker 1: in a game it's thirty three to twenty nine and

1155
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 1: the Steelers are playing, like what a win by the

1156
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 1: Steelers and they win twelve to seven, and they both

1157
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:54,440
Speaker 1: win a lot of games, you trust. I just believe

1158
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:57,440
Speaker 1: in this modern day the way the sports played, when

1159
00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:59,960
Speaker 1: your quarterbacks that good, I just have to believe in.

1160
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 1: And that's where you go the Steelers, you go God CJ.

1161
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 1: Watton on quarterback. Hell, he might be the best. I mean,

1162
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 1: there's a short list of guys that are as good

1163
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 1: as him or better than him. Their defense is so physical,

1164
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:14,200
Speaker 1: but their quarterback situation, you know, I would imagine Field

1165
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 1: starts again next week. But they got this Russell situation

1166
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 1: hanging over them where it's like, if you're the Bills,

1167
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, we got you could argue the best

1168
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 1: player in the history of our franchise. And they've had,

1169
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 1: you know, Bruce Smith, Thurmanton, They've had great players. But

1170
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 1: like Josh, given his position and what he means over

1171
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 1: the last three or four years, it's like those teams

1172
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl. Now they got there.

1173
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:35,680
Speaker 2: I should but I I should probably look at the

1174
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 2: Bills and have a different feeling, which is they were

1175
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:40,439
Speaker 2: outplayed in the first half and they ended up winning

1176
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 2: the game. Like there were moments in that game I

1177
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 2: was like, God, Arizona's just playing them tough. And then

1178
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 2: at the end they won the game. But it's not

1179
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 2: like Chicago, where Tennessee gave you the game. It was

1180
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 2: like Buffalo earned the win. I mean they put up points.

1181
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 2: It is, you know, Josh eighteen to twenty three. That's

1182
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 2: actually twenty three attempts because he's so vital as a

1183
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:02,919
Speaker 2: on her is a very reasonable number. Like I think

1184
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 2: Buffalo wants to become less Josh centric, but it's hard.

1185
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:08,440
Speaker 1: They want to run the ball. They want to run

1186
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 1: the ball. Today they got down yes, I anytime you

1187
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 1: get down in a game, even in the NFL, Like

1188
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:16,880
Speaker 1: you looked around beside the Saints and the Panthers, most

1189
00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 1: of these games are relatively close, even when it's fourteen

1190
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 1: seven or fourteen three. I mean, you're a play away

1191
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,080
Speaker 1: from being right back in it. But you kind of

1192
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:27,040
Speaker 1: have to get a little pass happy when you're down

1193
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 1: seventeen to three at home late in the second quarter.

1194
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 1: And then they did and it worked, and then you

1195
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 1: just double down on what's working the rest of the game.

1196
00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 1: You just worry to me him and Lamar like, I understand,

1197
00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:43,080
Speaker 1: this isn't nineteen eighty seven and Ronnie Lot hitting you

1198
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 1: every play, but you're still getting hit pretty hard. And

1199
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 1: these guys have never been faster. I would imagine the

1200
00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:50,680
Speaker 1: body fat on the average defender has never been lower. Right,

1201
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 1: so the compact nature of these guys and the speeds

1202
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 1: have never been faster. Both of them are you know,

1203
00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 1: similar age twenty seven to twenty nine years old. You

1204
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:02,600
Speaker 1: just under like, how long? And I don't blame him.

1205
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 1: How would they not be confident running because they know

1206
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 1: it works. But one time you're gonna get a hit

1207
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 1: and you're not gonna get up and something's gonna be Shatwill.

1208
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 1: We've seen it happen to Rodgers earlier.

1209
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:15,320
Speaker 2: In this time, Drew Bloodshell almost died on a football

1210
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:17,720
Speaker 2: field when he got laid out Drew Bledsoe six, five

1211
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 2: and a half to thirty. I mean, it's just it's

1212
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:23,920
Speaker 2: the I mean, Cam Newton's career thirty two, he was done.

1213
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 2: Cam's huge.

1214
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 1: Do you think you're I kind of like your thing

1215
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 1: about by the second year Thanksgiving, It's like, yeah, we're

1216
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 1: kind of out the Panthers thing. I know they got

1217
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 1: a lot.

1218
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:40,160
Speaker 2: Of Will Levice, Bryce Young. I watched today. I'm like,

1219
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:42,960
Speaker 2: I don't think it works. I don't think it works.

1220
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:46,640
Speaker 1: This is why I like the Saints. I'm like, people

1221
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:48,280
Speaker 1: are hard on Derek. He was bad for a lot

1222
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 1: of last year. Well he gets the Shanahan guy when

1223
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 1: he gets a good offensive coach. I think they got

1224
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 1: a good defense. I'm like, you watch Saints from my

1225
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 1: pick to win the division. Now, I know understand they're

1226
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 1: playing the Panthers, But what did Derek Carr look like today?

1227
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 1: Really good? Through three touchdowns? He looks good and Bryce

1228
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 1: Young look like lost someone that shouldn't be on a field.

1229
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 1: That's try one. Physically one. Physically, he's the smallest looking

1230
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 1: guy in the league by a mile at that position.

1231
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 1: Because even Kyler at the moment's notice, he can take

1232
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 1: off Bryce can't. Arm's not great, and then he's clearly

1233
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:20,040
Speaker 1: not that accurate. That's right.

1234
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 2: Today's struggles. Well, Will Levis today, there was a play

1235
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 2: when Will Levis was rolling right and he is too muscular.

1236
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 2: He was rolling right and he should have just rolled

1237
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 2: and thrown it. He rolled satuh, And I'm like, Will,

1238
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:38,440
Speaker 2: you got to throw in the move. You can't set

1239
01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 2: every time you throw the football. You got to be

1240
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 2: able to run and just sling it. And I watched

1241
01:01:43,600 --> 01:01:47,959
Speaker 2: Will Levis today. He's too rigid, he's too tight, he's

1242
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 2: not fluid. He's not going to make it in this league.

1243
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 1: Everything the GM tell you that. His pictures at the

1244
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 1: combine are like what is this guy doing? Like, get

1245
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 1: out of the weight room.

1246
01:01:56,560 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 2: He's not a fluid thrower. Everything is just like solid,

1247
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:05,440
Speaker 2: everything's mechanical. He's not gonna work in this league. Everything

1248
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 2: needs set up. And he's got these weird ticks when

1249
01:02:07,840 --> 01:02:09,840
Speaker 2: he throws it. It's like he watched it. He looks

1250
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 2: at himself in the mirror too much. He likes to

1251
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:14,760
Speaker 2: look pretty when he throws. Dude, sometimes this shit's ugly.

1252
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 2: Move throw it. And Bryce Young to your point, I

1253
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:23,560
Speaker 2: thought he was incredibly accurate. He's not strong. He missed

1254
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 2: two guys today by eight yards open. I mean miss

1255
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 2: them badly. It's like, okay, you can't that's the NFL.

1256
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 2: And Caleb, by the way, I missed a couple of

1257
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:35,120
Speaker 2: open guys that was a little problematic. But Bryce Young

1258
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 2: to I'm like, Bryce, you don't have the size. You

1259
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 2: have to be accurate.

1260
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 1: That's it for you.

1261
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 2: Like bo Knicks has to be accurate.

1262
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 1: He's not.

1263
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:45,200
Speaker 2: He's not six ' five and running over people. Will

1264
01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 2: levis too mechanical, not gonna work. Daniel Jones too mechanical,

1265
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 2: doesn't see the field, not gonna work. Bryce Young small

1266
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:54,000
Speaker 2: not as accurate as I thought.

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Speaker 1: I just think it's unraveling on him. You know, last

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Speaker 1: year they fired all these coaches, get a new guy in,

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Speaker 1: and then today. I don't think it could go any

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Speaker 1: worse because even the giants like they get their ass kicked.

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Speaker 1: Everyone thought Daniel Jones is awful. Yeah, Like people are like, oh,

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Speaker 1: let's give Bryce a kind of a mulligain. He gets

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Speaker 1: his offensive play caller. Before you even blinkets twenty to nothing.

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Speaker 1: Balls are flying over Honey Badger and all the dbs

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Speaker 1: are laughing. I mean they weren't even close. And that's

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Speaker 1: the thing. Like Deshaun Watson's shoulder injury, is he trying

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Speaker 1: to throw every ball seventy five yards pass?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: I give Caleb the first NFL game Like, yeah, he

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Speaker 1: some balls flying all over the place Game one, Deshaun

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Speaker 1: even Bryce, Like, you got a full season last year

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Speaker 1: and you've played this team before, but that confidence goes.

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Speaker 1: You start questioning yourself and then all of a sudden,

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01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 1: you know, it's like a golf swing. If you start

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Speaker 1: guiding it, the ball is gonna go out of bounce.

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Speaker 1: Just let it rip. Dak Prescott is just letting it rip. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean every pass is going to be perfect, but

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Speaker 1: you can't be thinking. And you watch Bryce, it's like

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Speaker 1: he's totally thinking and then his physical skills aren't great

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01:03:57,320 --> 01:04:02,560
Speaker 1: and it just goes. This is I think the Panthers

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Speaker 1: are gonna be really really bad because that division. I

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Speaker 1: know Atlanta lost today, but they were I'll give you

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Speaker 1: Alanta credit. They were flying around, hitting people pretty Tampa

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01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 1: was pretty loaded with talent. Saints are gonna be solid.

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Speaker 1: Like that's everyone thinks that division is gonna suck. I'm

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Speaker 1: actually on the opposite. I think it's gonna be pretty

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Speaker 1: competitive beside Carolina, Like, who are they beaten out of

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Speaker 1: those three teams? That could be an oh and six

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Speaker 1: in the division.

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Speaker 2: John Middlecuff, I'm gonna go watch Lions rams every Sunday

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Speaker 2: at least an hour. Chop it up. Former NFL scout.

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Speaker 2: His podcast is three and out. Well we got one

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Speaker 2: in the books, my man.

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Speaker 1: We do. And the Trojans look like a playoff team

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Speaker 1: early on Colin they really I'm not I would never

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01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:45,080
Speaker 1: have said that two weeks ago, but how do you

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Speaker 1: deny it? Now?

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Speaker 2: You know what you notice about usc Is Danton Lynn

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01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:54,280
Speaker 2: is the defensive coordinator they went and the way they

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01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 2: went and found like guys who had been head coaches.

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Speaker 2: I mean they they literally improved on every coach and

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Speaker 2: the staff. And you know what they do defensively. They

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Speaker 2: don't give you any cheap stuff. They don't blow any coverages,

1314
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Speaker 2: Like half of what coaching is about. Are you lined

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Speaker 2: up in the right spot in the last four or

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Speaker 2: five years, you're like Jesus, we just don't have the

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Speaker 2: guys in the right. I said this, a screen pass

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01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:25,440
Speaker 2: the last two years before this year, a screen pass

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Speaker 2: against USC might as well have been a double reverse.

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Speaker 2: They were completely flummixed by basic I mean like jet sweeps,

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Speaker 2: percent a pilot. I've had multiple doctors in my career,

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Speaker 2: you know, like all of us. I've had bad agents.

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Speaker 2: just because people make a lot of money, you start

1332
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Speaker 2: looking at some of these coaches, especially at the college level, John,

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Speaker 2: there are bad, bad coaches. USC had won the previous

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Speaker 2: two years. I don't think they have great talent. I

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Speaker 2: don't think they're defensive talents close to Georgia Ohio State.

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Speaker 2: They never I've watched every snap from two games. I've

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Speaker 2: yet to see them in the wrong spot.

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Speaker 1: To me, what jumps out their skill guys look a

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Speaker 1: lot better and I don't fall recruiting that close, So

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Speaker 1: I don't know all these guys beside the one little

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Speaker 1: explosive unit. If they're playing Oregon this week on a

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Speaker 1: How could you give USC points? Everyone would be USC.

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Speaker 1: They would beat Oregon today. I don't. We'll see how

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Speaker 1: that plays out in three months. But right now they

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Speaker 1: anyone would be able to say that, even if you were,

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Speaker 1: how crazy and fast that turned, I mean in fourteen days.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, it's funny about the transfer portal.

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Speaker 2: They did a really good job. They went and got

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Speaker 2: two giits from Oregon State brothers LA kids. It was like,

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Speaker 2: really smart, a middle linebacker and a safety, brothers the

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Speaker 2: best two Oregon State defenders. They went and they used

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Speaker 2: their money in the transfer portal smart smartly, they just

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Speaker 2: went and got a lot of solid guys that two

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Speaker 2: from UCLA, two from Oregon State players who had played

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Speaker 2: together on defenses that got along. So it was like

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Speaker 2: the chemistry as they brought. They weren't like four guys

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Speaker 2: from forty.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't a mercenary signing guys left and right.

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Speaker 2: Two UCLA guys from the secondary, a couple of Mississippi

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Speaker 2: like the team that it's very unified. There is no superstar,

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Speaker 2: no superman. You can just tell the team. You watch

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Speaker 2: They like each other.

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Speaker 1: You can now they got a good they got They

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