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Speaker 1: This is I Am Rapp Report. The show Never Stopped.

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Speaker 1: Might catch the Mountain Public stretching his knees. But if

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Speaker 1: We're gonna please sport all right. So on today's episode,

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Speaker 1: I get to interview fantasy football guru Corey Albertson, who

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Speaker 1: literally has made millions of dollars playing fantasy sports in

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Speaker 1: in one In one week he won a million and

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Speaker 1: a half dollars. One day he's one, He's lost. He's

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Speaker 1: very interesting, very very informative about all fantasy sports. I'm

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Speaker 1: an interview him and this was a and not an

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Speaker 1: emergency podcast, but an impromptu podcast because we were coming

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Speaker 1: out usually on a day we don't come out. But

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Speaker 1: I have to announce that the TV show that I did,

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Speaker 1: Public Morals, has been canceled. Uh, it's only gonna be

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Speaker 1: one season. Unfortunately. Um, this is the name of the game,

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Speaker 1: supported and enjoy Public Morals, and there's been a there's

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Speaker 1: been a bunch of people that have tweeted about it

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Speaker 1: and instagramed and emailed us at iron wrapping for podcast

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Speaker 1: dot com Public Morals. Unfortunately, we're not coming back. It's disappointing.

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Speaker 1: The show was executive produced by Steven Spielberg and created

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Speaker 1: by Ed Burns nineteen sixties cop show. If you haven't

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Speaker 1: seen it, check it out. But you know, it's disappointing.

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Speaker 1: I found out earlier earlier today, and uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's never it's never fun. The cast was great, great

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Speaker 1: going on in my my little uh my little world,

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Speaker 1: you know, and they cancel the shows. The thing that's

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Speaker 1: uh you know, you're like, well, why does it happen?

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Speaker 1: And I'm always I'll tell people the short inser its politics,

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Speaker 1: and that's exactly what it is. Because they cancel many

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Speaker 1: many shows each year, Yet the same people doing the

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Speaker 1: advertising continue to work there, and the same people doing

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Speaker 1: doing the scheduling they stay. I mean they get fired,

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Speaker 1: and uh, you know, essentially because when when the show

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Speaker 1: you're essentially getting fired, you know, like you're like, oh,

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Speaker 1: it's canceled, it's you're fired as an actor. And in

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Speaker 1: the show business, you you're you're technically you're rejected. The

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Speaker 1: Y and Z. I don't want to be in a

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Speaker 1: I'm bummed about that, and you know, I'm bummed because

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Speaker 1: I'm fucking piste off about it. I'm disappointed that public

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Speaker 1: morals got canceled. So you know that whole You're mad, bro, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm fucking mad. I'll get over it, but I'm sucking mad.

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Speaker 1: So you're not gonna matchinge me about now. You can say, well,

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Speaker 1: it's not the end of the world. Of course, it's

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Speaker 1: How can the show executive produced by Steven Spielberg not

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Speaker 1: there doesn't make any sense. Steven Spielberg has a track record,

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm disappointed that Public Morals got canceled. It was

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Speaker 1: getting tight. So, UM, I have a guest, a special guest.

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Speaker 1: UM what I would would you be considered a gurgle?

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Speaker 1: My guest is Corey Albertson. And UM I met Corey

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Speaker 1: so like you're probably using it right and and be

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Speaker 1: your own algorithms? Like where's the best source of information?

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Speaker 1: Like like you know, like like there's so many websites

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Speaker 1: and there's so many quote unquote um fantasy googs. There's

429
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Speaker 1: so many fantasy experts. Have you guys, are you considered

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Speaker 1: like a fantasy expert? Like, have you guys created your

431
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Speaker 1: own thing? No? Right, And I've always stayed away from

432
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Speaker 1: trying to like, you know, chill or like you know,

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Speaker 1: picks or whatever, Like it just seems like, uh, you know, whatever,

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Speaker 1: the business model is for doing that. It never made

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Speaker 1: any sense to us because like, if you really believe

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Speaker 1: that you have like this fantastic info, the best thing

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Speaker 1: to do, you know, least up until now, in my opinion,

438
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Speaker 1: has been to hoard that info and just play daily

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Speaker 1: fantasy with it rather than try to sell it to

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Speaker 1: people for right, So we've always been like, you know,

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Speaker 1: let's just keep the info. We don't need to be like,

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Speaker 1: you know, out there like touting ourselves and um uh yeah, okay.

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Speaker 1: So in terms of like you kind of asked, like

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Speaker 1: how's it made, and like, you know, I would say,

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Speaker 1: there's like proprietary elements and also just kind of like

446
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Speaker 1: research based elements where we're relying on other people's work,

447
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Speaker 1: and it's you know, it's ultimately, at the end of

448
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Speaker 1: the day, what is making a fantasy baseball algorithm. It's

449
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Speaker 1: it's knowing how to it's knowing what data to organize,

450
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Speaker 1: how to organize it, and you know how to use it, right,

451
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Speaker 1: so that ultimately it's like a data organization problem, I think,

452
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Speaker 1: and and so like so but like for instance, like

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Speaker 1: like one of the things that I'm trying to figure

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Speaker 1: out and improve as a fantasy player. Like this is

455
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Speaker 1: a real thing, but you get so nuts when it

456
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Speaker 1: comes to fantasy. But like it is true, like improving,

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Speaker 1: like as far as defenses, like picking defenses and like

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Speaker 1: you know sort of you know, figuring out like what's

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Speaker 1: the best defense? Like how do you pick a deep obviously?

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Speaker 1: You know face Like so so people that don't know, Um,

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Speaker 1: the the the weekly uh fantasy football, which is what

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Speaker 1: I play in uh, which you hear me talk about

463
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Speaker 1: in the Stern Show. It's a season long thing. So

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Speaker 1: I make my picks and then it's sixteen weeks. Daily

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Speaker 1: is is every Sunday or every top of the week,

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Speaker 1: because you could play Thursday, you could play just you

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Speaker 1: can't play just Thursday, right, yeah, you have that two

468
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Speaker 1: or more games in real life. Okay, so every Sunday. Um,

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Speaker 1: there's there's daily picks. But like you need to pick

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Speaker 1: a defense. And and like one of the things that

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Speaker 1: I'm learning trying to figure out is how do you

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Speaker 1: pick the best defense? Like that's a question I have,

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Speaker 1: Like how do you pick the best defense? If I

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Speaker 1: knew the answer that I would, like you know it's

475
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Speaker 1: I mean, you had your bet right, you try to

476
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Speaker 1: get the best you can, they're definitely like and let's

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Speaker 1: just stick with the daily fantasy context since that's what

478
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Speaker 1: I'm most familiar with, although I do play season long

479
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Speaker 1: as you mentioned as well. Um, there's just like a

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Speaker 1: lot of like variants to how a defense is going

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Speaker 1: to perform any given week. So you might have like

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Speaker 1: a theory unlike that, like you know, these ones are

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Speaker 1: better than these other ones, but any given week, like

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Speaker 1: you know, you should totally expect that your favorite defense

485
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Speaker 1: is not going to actually be the one that scores

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Speaker 1: the most points. So it's kind of it's kind of

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Speaker 1: a riddle. Defenses are a pretty variable position in that

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Speaker 1: in that way maybe more so than like, um, you know,

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Speaker 1: wide receivers are. And then and then as far as drafting,

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Speaker 1: like when you approach a draft, like so when when

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Speaker 1: you're playing your daily fantasy, to explain what how many

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Speaker 1: like what the lineup is, it's what it's not your

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Speaker 1: your your your Traditionally it's one quarterback. One articulate what

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Speaker 1: that what it is, so you draft depending on the site,

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Speaker 1: let's just like just keep it kind of simple. You

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Speaker 1: draft like one quarterback, two running backs, three wide receivers,

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Speaker 1: a tight end, and a defense. That would be like

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Speaker 1: an example of like a team, you know, and you're

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Speaker 1: given like let's say fifty Like you can join a contest, right,

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Speaker 1: You can join a contest anywhere from no money on

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Speaker 1: the line at all, you're just playing for fun, all

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Speaker 1: the way up to contests where it's like five thousand

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Speaker 1: dollars to buy in, right, and you know, and everything

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Speaker 1: in between that you can imagine it against just one

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Speaker 1: other person, like you know, Mr Rappaport and I could

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Speaker 1: play heads up, or it would just be like hundreds

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Speaker 1: of thousands of people, you know. So you choose your contest,

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Speaker 1: and then you're giving like a fixed amount of salary money,

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Speaker 1: so like, you know, it's kind of arbitrary. It just

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Speaker 1: depends on the site. They might give you like fifty

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Speaker 1: thou dollars in salary money. And then you look at

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Speaker 1: the players, and each player has a price associated with them,

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Speaker 1: and you know, usually of course the best players like

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady or Julio Jones or whatever are going to

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Speaker 1: have like the highest price tags. And you know, the

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Speaker 1: name of the game becomes finding, like how do I

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Speaker 1: find kind of value here? How do I find like

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Speaker 1: a diamond in the rough that's gonna do a lot

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Speaker 1: for really cheap and and how do you break that down?

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Speaker 1: Like this, So this week, how have you been successful?

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Speaker 1: Like what this season have you been success? Like what's

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Speaker 1: your bigger Are you allowed to say what's your biggest

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Speaker 1: win is? Or it's public? Right? Well, no, it's not public,

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Speaker 1: definitely not. I mean maybe there are some sites that

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Speaker 1: try to estimate it, but I don't know that any

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Speaker 1: of them are doing it really well. I think, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, biggest win this year maybe in any given

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Speaker 1: week was like probably about I don't know, I think

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Speaker 1: like three thousand, but which was great. That was great.

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Speaker 1: But let's take into the grand context, which is that

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Speaker 1: I've had weeks where Ray and I lost that much money,

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Speaker 1: right and so holy crap. Yeah, so we like, you know,

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Speaker 1: you kind of have to look at the whole season

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Speaker 1: as an aggregate, and right now we've had an okay season,

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Speaker 1: like we're we were in the black or the green

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Speaker 1: or whatever you call it, but it's it hasn't been like,

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Speaker 1: you know, exactly like over the moon outstanding or anything yet.

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Speaker 1: So I live in San Francisco, but in southern California.

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Speaker 1: For this weekend, going to San Diego tomorrow for the

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Speaker 1: Fan Duel Fantasy Football World Championships, and explain what that

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Speaker 1: is and what's at stake. What's at stakes you have

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Speaker 1: to qualify for as a hundred twenty people have um

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Speaker 1: five of those hundred and twenty lineups, I should have said,

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Speaker 1: are I have them right? Ray of hope? We won

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Speaker 1: those seats right. So over the course of the season,

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Speaker 1: you have to win a qualifier to get to the

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Speaker 1: San Diego event, and then out of the hundred twenty

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Speaker 1: competitors this weekend, first place gets three million dollars I think.

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Speaker 1: And what one person is gonna win three million dollars? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: or conceivably more if they have a lineup that finishes,

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Speaker 1: you know, first and second or something like that. Yo. Wait,

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Speaker 1: and is it only one person that will win? Like

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Speaker 1: it's only first places? Could only go to one person? No,

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Speaker 1: so great question. There's a hundred and twenty prizes, so

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Speaker 1: every spot pays something. I think it goes like three million,

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Speaker 1: one and a half million, one million, and then down

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Speaker 1: from their town to like twenty th Holy crap. So

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Speaker 1: have you placed your lineups this week? No? I mean,

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Speaker 1: as we're recording this, it's only Thursday. Afternoon. So this

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Speaker 1: is just like after we finish up here, I'll just

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Speaker 1: kind of start to do like research for the week. Honestly,

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Speaker 1: I don't do a whole lot on Monday through Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: so uh, it'll be like kind of a weekend long

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Speaker 1: process of just you know, working on lineups and with

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Speaker 1: So I think, let's think about the total price pool

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Speaker 1: for this contest divided by the hundred twenty seats. Every

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Speaker 1: every entry is worth like a hundred thousand dollars in value, right,

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Speaker 1: Like you know, you might only get twenty thou for it,

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Speaker 1: or you can turn it into three million. But if

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Speaker 1: you think of it as like what does the seat worth,

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Speaker 1: it's worth a hundred thousand and we have five of them,

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Speaker 1: so it's almost like putting half a million dollars on

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Speaker 1: the line. So you want to make sure that you

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Speaker 1: like your team has five five seats. Yeah, Holy out man,

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Speaker 1: that's crazy man. Well, we've been lucky on on standuel

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Speaker 1: with winning seats this year. DraftKings has been kind of

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Speaker 1: the opposite. We've i think been fulfilling the dreams of

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Speaker 1: some others along the way. But what do you mean,

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Speaker 1: what what do you mean? Like we've won two seats

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Speaker 1: on draft kings, but uh, up until last week, we'd

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Speaker 1: only won one. And definitely at that point in time,

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Speaker 1: like we had like paid more buy ins and qualifiers

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Speaker 1: than one seat was even worth, right, you know, like

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Speaker 1: maybe we had one seat which I think is worth

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Speaker 1: like eighty thousand, but we had done like a hundred

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Speaker 1: and thirty thousand and qualifiers, So crap. I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: so explain to me and the people what is the

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Speaker 1: what is going on the controversy with fantasy sports? Um?

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Speaker 1: Uh you know, for me, uh, it would be like

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Speaker 1: I don't gamble and I played daily fantasy on on

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Speaker 1: DraftKings and I played daily fantasy on on fandel thanks

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Speaker 1: to you you you got me involved with that, um,

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Speaker 1: and uh, I haven't had that much success. It's been

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Speaker 1: hard for me to sort of double dip with the

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Speaker 1: mentality that takes from my season long thing. But there's

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Speaker 1: a controversy that's going on where the the the the

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Speaker 1: whole fantasy sports and gen role may not exist anymore, right,

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Speaker 1: Uh uh wrong. I don't think that that's truly a risk. Um.

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Speaker 1: You you said it. You know, that was a good

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Speaker 1: segue to kind of talking about some of the like

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Speaker 1: um controversies that have come up in with the daily

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Speaker 1: fantasy operators over the course of this football season. It's

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Speaker 1: very complicated. It's been kind of like complex, and there's

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Speaker 1: been a lot of like storylines with it. But just

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Speaker 1: to kind of like summarize it, I would say that

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Speaker 1: that daily Fantasy really hit the mainstream consciousness this football

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Speaker 1: season because of you know, one reason in particular, and

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Speaker 1: that was the advertising. They went crazy. They went crazy,

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Speaker 1: like every other ad on TV was for Daily Fantasy.

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Speaker 1: And what I think that did was it brought a

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Speaker 1: lot of eyeballs into a space that maybe wasn't quite

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Speaker 1: ready for a lot of scrutiny yet. And then what

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Speaker 1: happened is you kind of have the spark that goes off,

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Speaker 1: which you know was almost like this just unfortunate coincidence

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Speaker 1: of this poor guy at DraftKings released some data on

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Speaker 1: the internet. He works there. He released some data that

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Speaker 1: he wasn't supposed to release a little too early on

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Speaker 1: a Sunday, and lo and behold, that weekend he won

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Speaker 1: a bunch of money playing on uh the rival site Fandual.

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Speaker 1: This was at a time where employees were allowed to

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Speaker 1: play Daily Fancy and other sites. Because of this incident,

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Speaker 1: they're no longer allowed to do that. But at the time,

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Speaker 1: you know, the media kind of like saw this story

639
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Speaker 1: and they're like, wait, so this guy had access to

640
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Speaker 1: this insider data which he accidentally released early, and then

641
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: on the same weekend he wins a ton of money

642
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: and playing on FanDuel. People made a connection there between

643
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 1: those two events, and that kind of triggered a controversy, right,

644
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 1: because it's sort of like insider trick. The perception was like,

645
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 1: holy cow, like something shady's going on here, right. The

646
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 1: reality is that the young man Ethan Haskell, to the

647
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: best of anyone's knowledge, and there was even an investigation,

648
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,479
Speaker 1: wasn't doing anything wrong. He was like truly just an

649
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 1: accent that he published a data independent of having access

650
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 1: to that data. He did well on fandual that weekend,

651
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 1: but it didn't matter because all that mattered was what

652
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 1: people thought happened, and it looked really bad, and and

653
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: then so what was and then what happened? Then what

654
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Speaker 1: proceeded to happen, you know, I mean there was kind

655
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 1: of just a domino effect after that of you know,

656
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Speaker 1: quite a few different dominoes. But where it's kind of

657
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Speaker 1: gotten most interesting would be the New York State Attorney General, who, um,

658
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: you know, kind of jumped into the media headlines for

659
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 1: himself and um, I think, you know, I'm not a lawyer,

660
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 1: but I think the gist of is that he he

661
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Speaker 1: sent a season assist letter to the site saying like

662
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Speaker 1: you're no longer allowed to operate in New York because

663
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: this is like illegal gambling. It goes against New York laws.

664
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Speaker 1: And you know, now they're battling in the courts. I

665
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: think Fandel actually already left New York. I don't believe

666
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 1: DraftKings has yet. And they're kind of like waiting for

667
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: this like verdict from a judge on like which side

668
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Speaker 1: is gonna win here the Fantasy size or the attorney

669
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Speaker 1: general And what do you think is gonna happen? And

670
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Speaker 1: what is what is your involvement? And and what the

671
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: like is it is? It is? Is one? Isn't one

672
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 1: of the questions of the main things. Is it a

673
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 1: game of skill or is it a game of luck?

674
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: And and and break down like what that means and

675
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: what you think it means and and uh and and

676
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: like what your just opinion of it is. Yeah, first

677
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: of all, I have no idea what's gonna happen with

678
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: the ruling in New York. I mean, it's in my

679
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 1: mind it's a coin flips, so I'm eager to find out. Uh,

680
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: but it could potentially be shut down in New York

681
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 1: like online but how but how does that even work?

682
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: If it's online gambling, you can't do it from New

683
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: York or like, how does that even work? Yeah? I

684
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: mean I was in New York over Thanksgiving and I

685
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: just kind of like remember while I was there, I

686
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 1: was like, oh, yeah, I can't, like I can't play

687
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: on fans hold from here. It was like it was

688
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: it got pretty real at that moment, because you know,

689
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: unless you're in New York, it actually doesn't affect you.

690
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: You you your your computer, like they know you. You know,

691
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: they have geolocation software and so they just like you

692
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 1: can't place your can tell you like you can't. You know,

693
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: that's crazy. I didn't know that. So, um, you had

694
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: another question, you know about like luck, skill and that

695
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: whole thing in terms of fantasy sports. Yeah. Thanks. So

696
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, these questions are kind of annoying

697
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: because people think of them as if it's like a

698
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: binary thing, like it's one or the other, couldn't possibly

699
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: be something in between. So people are like, is it

700
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: a game of skill or game of chance? The answer is,

701
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 1: you know, the Black and Whites like answer is that

702
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:04,719
Speaker 1: it's a game of skill, but yes, there are elements

703
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: of chance, and certainly on any given weekend, even any

704
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: given season, I would say they're they're huge elements of chance,

705
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: just like this weekend in San Diego, Like someone's gonna

706
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: win three million dollars and it who knows who it

707
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 1: will be, right, So there's chance involved in the game,

708
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 1: but it is a game of skill. People say, you know,

709
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: is it gambling or and it's like, you know, gambling

710
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: is not like it's not like is this a zebra?

711
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: Yes or no? Like there's a right answer to that question,

712
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: right when you say is this gambling, it's not like

713
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 1: it's not like that like black and white, Right, It's

714
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: like it's a form of gambling. Yes, Like if you

715
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: want to use that word, fine, But you shouldn't think

716
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: of this question as being particularly important because you can't

717
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: just say yes or no. What you should try to

718
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 1: do is understand really what the game is, how is

719
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: it different, how is it managed? What needs to be

720
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: changed about it? And like, don't get hung up on

721
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: the like is it gambling question that people do. But

722
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: but like, like if it is gambling, what is the

723
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 1: like what is the uh? I didn't say again because

724
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't. I don't gamble, like you know,

725
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,080
Speaker 1: I played black check every now and then. But if

726
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 1: it is gamling, so what if people want to do it?

727
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 1: Like what are the laws? Like why why is this

728
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: becoming a whole thing? Like I don't understand, like why

729
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: this is such a major controversy, Like what is the

730
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 1: major controversy is it? Is it? Just like Yo, the

731
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: New York States Attorney, here's a bag of money, and

732
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 1: like are they just not getting the kickback they want?

733
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 1: Like what is the deal with it? I don't know, man,

734
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: I mean that's you'd have to like talk to the

735
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: cynics about that one. I think. I think, like certainly

736
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: money is like an element here right, Like California is

737
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: having a hearing next week that I'm actually gonna be

738
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 1: testifying at on kind of on behalf of like a

739
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 1: uh what's called the DFS Players organ organization? And anyway,

740
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: Like you know, I think, why is it happening like this?

741
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 1: Like why can't people just play in these games? Like yes,

742
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: it's true that that kind of like libertarian mindset is

743
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 1: like what would be most optimal? Um, But you know

744
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 1: the realities that you have people whose jobs it is

745
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: to make sure their consumer protection is to make sure

746
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: people are getting ripped off or like you know, falling

747
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: into like problem gambling habits, and so you're trying not

748
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: to create, did you and we're gamblers who were thrown

749
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,279
Speaker 1: away their entire lives, wind up on the bottom of

750
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: a building somewhere and all this kind of thing. It's

751
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: just kind of inevitable that if you have businesses that

752
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: are like at least like largely resemble online gaming or

753
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: online betting company. You know, maybe they're not exactly that,

754
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 1: but they at least kind of seem like maybe they are. Right,

755
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: it's just like inevitable that there's gonna be some like

756
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 1: politicians or lawyers or someone who wants to like take

757
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: a closer look at it. Right, And I think that

758
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 1: we're at that tipping point for daily fantasy. Maybe the

759
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 1: industry wasn't quite prepared for it, maybe kind of a

760
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: little overconfident thought maybe that day would never come, but

761
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: it did. It's here, and you know, they need to

762
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Speaker 1: work their way through it. I think everyone does as

763
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764
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765
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Speaker 1: you win three million dollars, that might be worth like

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Speaker 1: a chocolate diamond or something in there. Do something in there,

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Speaker 1: all right? So so going into a NBA, which NBA

813
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Speaker 1: is my thing, like I love as much as I

814
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Speaker 1: love NFL um intuitively and instinctively, I understand in NBA

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Speaker 1: better and I'm just It's just something I I've loved

816
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Speaker 1: longer in my life. So so you're now also you

817
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: also participated in fantasy basketball. So break down in Layman's terms,

818
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: how NBA fantasy because I haven't started doing that because

819
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: it seems too overwhelming to do. Like you know, like

820
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Speaker 1: every single game, where is it weekly? Is it daily?

821
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Speaker 1: How does it work? Break it down? You can play

822
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Speaker 1: it daily? And like you, I love basketball. The NBA's

823
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 1: my favorite pro sports league. I think it's maybe the

824
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 1: greatest organization on earth. They're incredible. Um, fantasy basketball is like,

825
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: first of all, I always take Rappaport in the celebrity

826
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Speaker 1: All Star game fantasy league. You have to as you should, Yeah,

827
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,239
Speaker 1: as you should. You know he's gonna back people down

828
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 1: and as you should and you know what, and and

829
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Speaker 1: going and that's actually a good thing. Going into the

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Speaker 1: Celebrity Game two thousand and sixteen. I'm gonna see if

831
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,720
Speaker 1: we could put that on the market as a fantasy game. Yeah,

832
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 1: and then you could pick players and it's gonna be

833
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: h it's gonna be in Canada and and there there

834
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 1: there's some sniffing, there's some whispering that might be uh,

835
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 1: Canada versus the world. And I'm just gonna tell you

836
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: I'm putting up numbers in that game. Yeah, I mean,

837
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: I'm just letting you know who do they even have

838
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: the size Bieber? I mean, there's no one that can

839
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Speaker 1: defend you on the game seth Rogan Drake if he

840
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Speaker 1: if he decides to get out there, I'm telling you

841
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Speaker 1: right now. And then in as far as fantasy sports,

842
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Speaker 1: he's not putting up numbers. Bieber, I'd give it because

843
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: he's like a little justin biebround if you've ever seen

844
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Speaker 1: him play, He's like a Canadian like like a wild

845
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Speaker 1: rabbid Canadian jack rabbit, you know, like a feral Canadian

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Speaker 1: jack rabbit. So he might be someone to put up there,

847
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Speaker 1: like if he could be your point guard and then

848
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Speaker 1: I'm your power forward. You're starting a good celebrity fantasy

849
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Speaker 1: basketball game. But breakdown you know basketball, how it works

850
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: NBA fantasy basketball. By the way, this probably could really

851
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: work like prepairing the celebrity Alstar Game with the regular

852
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: NBA Allstar Game and a fantasy contest for you. You

853
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: have to draft like three celebrities and three NBA players

854
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,799
Speaker 1: and it's cumulative. This is why I like where your

855
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: head at. Core. We can talk to some folks, you know, listen,

856
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 1: I like listen, I like where your heads that. I

857
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: like where your heads at. And then you know, like

858
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 1: the celebrities, you know you can head that would be

859
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: making a lot of fun making the celebrity game. You know,

860
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: uh it would be low stakes because it ain't gonna

861
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: be a lot of scoring and be low stakes and

862
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: low scoring and uh you know, but I think that's

863
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,800
Speaker 1: a good idea for All Star weekend. But breakdown NBA

864
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,399
Speaker 1: basketball and how you wind up, uh, you know, going

865
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: about it. So, how many games have to be playing

866
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 1: on a collect the night for there to be daily

867
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 1: NBA basketball technically only two, so the you know, the

868
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 1: law that kind of has driven the fantasy growth so

869
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 1: far says that there have to be multiple real world events,

870
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: so you at least two different real world NBA games

871
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: on the given night, and if you have that, technically

872
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: you're good to go on playing daily fantasy, where you know,

873
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,080
Speaker 1: the model is kind of the same as what I

874
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: describe earlier for NFL. You have you have a certain

875
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 1: amount of money, and you draft players at different positions,

876
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:50,200
Speaker 1: and just like fantasy football, you kind of want to

877
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: try to figure out, like, who are the best picks

878
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 1: based on what I expect them to do, and and

879
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 1: what are the stats obviously scoring, rebounding, assist and what else?

880
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 1: Because I heard it was like free throw standard, what

881
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,600
Speaker 1: how do you how do you get like, is Lebron

882
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 1: He seems like he would be a good obviously a

883
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: good fantasy pick because he fills it up across the board. Yeah,

884
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,720
Speaker 1: I mean Lebron's the man. There's you know, DeMarcus Cousins

885
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,280
Speaker 1: is kind of like a fantasy god because he stuffs

886
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 1: the statute to um, what are the stats that get played? Yeah,

887
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: so like it's pretty pretty standard scoring, Like what are

888
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,479
Speaker 1: the stats that like, you know, ever get talked about

889
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,520
Speaker 1: in basketball? For the most part, it's you know pretty

890
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: much like um points, three pointers, assists, rebounds, what else

891
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 1: am I missing? I mean, I'm probably missing like one

892
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: or two stallines here, blocks, what it steals whatever else.

893
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: But but like you know, it's just the basic scoring

894
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,880
Speaker 1: is there's nothing like super complicated. It's a little bit

895
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 1: harder to watch fancy like watch basketball with fantasy basketball

896
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,240
Speaker 1: in mind, because like with football, you got like forty

897
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: seconds between every play you know exactly that you need,

898
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 1: you know, Todd Gurley to score. They're on the goal line.

899
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: Like it's a very like kind of like you know,

900
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 1: there's a moment that you know what you're looking for.

901
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 1: Baseball is the same way you know when Mike trot

902
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 1: is coming up to bat right bass catball, you don't

903
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 1: know like when Steph Curry is about to pull up

904
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Speaker 1: for a three. The answer is probably like any second now.

905
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: But like you're still three or threes four that's it,

906
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: threes or four, Like it depends between the sites, but

907
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 1: like some sites do like you know, you get three

908
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: four it plus a bonus point, which is you know,

909
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: obviously makes three point shooters like the greatest thing, right,

910
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:19,760
Speaker 1: and so so who are some of the people obviously

911
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 1: like the regular Joe Schmos like of course Steph Curry

912
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:28,280
Speaker 1: because it was three point problems. Uh Thompson he he

913
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,240
Speaker 1: had ten threes the other night, like so Clay Thompson.

914
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: So like, who are some of the other like lesser

915
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 1: known going into NBA season this year that have have

916
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 1: emerged as good uh fantasy players and besides the regular

917
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:42,840
Speaker 1: cast of characters of the Lebrons DeMarcus and Steph Curry, Like,

918
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: who are someone like the give me some give me

919
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 1: some names. Man, I'm gonna have to like pleads to

920
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,240
Speaker 1: put it on that because I don't really even start

921
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,359
Speaker 1: like focusing a lot on fantasy basketball until after football season,

922
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 1: and because it's just like too much. Yeah, uh you know,

923
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: it's like you could do it all the uh you know,

924
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: I don't know, I haven't like looked at fancy basketball

925
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: like every single day. It's like, and it's even gone

926
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Speaker 1: on for a couple of weeks or like, you know,

927
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: four weeks or whatever. So I don't have like a

928
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 1: ton of confidence and like giving you like answers that

929
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: would feel good about putting out there to a million listeners,

930
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: but million, it's it's millionllions, millions of billions or millions.

931
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Speaker 1: Just you could say millions of listeners. You don't have

932
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:16,760
Speaker 1: to say billions. That the exaggerame, but millions is kind

933
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: of that kind of it's like tens of millions. You

934
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: could say that it depends on a weekly thing. I

935
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: think that with you and we're discussing. It might be

936
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: in the tens of millions this week, So you could

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00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 1: say the tens of millions of listeners. Wait, let me

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Speaker 1: let me take a break hold on one second, yo.

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Speaker 1: by selling to you directly at great dot com. Alright, so, Corey,

956
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Speaker 1: I need you to give me some tips. I feel

957
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: like like you're you're scared to make some some some

958
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 1: some some premonitions and some observations. I listen. I need

959
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 1: you your sound smart, you look smart, you look clean,

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00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 1: you look clean and mean, you're one a million and

961
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 1: a half dollars. You're playing for three million dollars this week.

962
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: Give them my people. Give the listeners some tips here,

963
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 1: break it down, give me give me some names. Give

964
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: me something like some uh what do they call sleeper picks? Yeah?

965
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,360
Speaker 1: You know, I mean like it's tough, right, sleeper thinks

966
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 1: like an overused thing that say, is there such thing

967
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: as a sleeper pick? I know, I watched the Homeland

968
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 1: they talk about sleeper cells, like like, well, give me,

969
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: give me something, man, give me something like you got

970
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 1: now like Tom Brady versus Houston, I wouldn't go with

971
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. I'm scared of that. If if if I

972
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 1: wouldn't pick Tom Brady. Yeah no, and you shouldn't. Like

973
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 1: right now, we're looking at a site called Fantasy Aces,

974
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 1: which is actually based here in Los Angeles. They're like

975
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: not as they're not the biggest daily fantasy side, but

976
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 1: you know they're they're like pretty cool site and we're

977
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 1: just looking at their games. So like, you know, it

978
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 1: depends on the site salary, right, Like some sites maybe

979
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: like drafting Tom Brady would be good and others that

980
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: might be bad, depending on what that ratio is that

981
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,240
Speaker 1: we discussed earlier this week on on like Fantasy Aces.

982
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 1: As an example, like Dangelo Williams, like running back of

983
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: the Steelers, Like he's kind of an awesome pick because

984
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 1: he's like he hasn't they haven't like you know, like

985
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 1: priced him yet at the very top of their price here,

986
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 1: and he's like he's basically like a top elite running back, right,

987
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: he's doing very well. He's doing very well. And then

988
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 1: like for quarterbacks like Cam Newton, for a guy that's

989
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 1: just gonna like be like a great pick, but that

990
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 1: like lots of other people are gonna have him. And

991
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: then like Tyrod Taylor to Buffalo Bills for like someone

992
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 1: that's like if you want to talk sleeper, like Tyrod Sailors,

993
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 1: Like usually he's like always asleep, not always, but most weeks.

994
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: You know, people don't tend to draft him. Right, he

995
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: puts up numbers, He puts up numbers. He can run

996
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,280
Speaker 1: the ball of running, He's worth a lot in fantasy.

997
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 1: So so like and and what do you think about

998
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 1: like Russell Wilson, Like his fantasy numbers have gone up

999
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 1: because he's not turning the bowl over. He runs, he

1000
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 1: gets a lot of points, and they like Seattle is

1001
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 1: starting to uh to to go up, like you know,

1002
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: they're starting to come together. So Russell Wilson, Ye, so

1003
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: so out of the picks here, like Tom Brady and

1004
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:32,359
Speaker 1: Drew Brees had a good good week last week going

1005
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 1: against Tampa Bay, Like like how do you make these

1006
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: these premonitions? Like what do you think about this premonition?

1007
00:46:38,239 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 1: Seems like a polite way of putting it, but it's

1008
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: it's more just like you know, like I said, like

1009
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 1: you do the research, you kind of come up with,

1010
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 1: like just like you know what to expect, right, so

1011
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: you want to look like who's overrated and who's underrated?

1012
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 1: Oftentimes like the top price guys, like especially the quarterback

1013
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 1: position in my mind, can be kind of overrated. It's

1014
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 1: like Tom Brady, Drew Bright Breeze, like these are guys

1015
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 1: that you know, maybe on average, I don't usually like

1016
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 1: nearly as much as I like, uh, you know, like

1017
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,720
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor, like who we discussed or you know Jamis

1018
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: Winston even is that a couple of years done? Like

1019
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 1: he's he started off terrible, but he's some like figuring

1020
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:12,520
Speaker 1: it out. So you know, it depends on the week,

1021
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: It depends on the matchup. And explain to like the

1022
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 1: people the difference between a flex and a tight end

1023
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,800
Speaker 1: and who would you pick for your flex on this

1024
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,879
Speaker 1: this this this side here that the aces site. Yeah,

1025
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 1: like so a flex just means like you like you

1026
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 1: can pick a running back, wide receiver or a tight

1027
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 1: end and like and this quote flexible yea does it happens? Now?

1028
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: Does that mean they're good at touching their toes? What

1029
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 1: does it mean? Extra points if they can touch five

1030
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: inches past their toes? But what it means, uh, what

1031
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 1: it means really is, it's just it's a flexible like

1032
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: spot on your fantasy lineup, so you can take any

1033
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 1: one of any position, just not a quarterback or a

1034
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 1: defense and they kind of scored differently than the other

1035
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: positions do. So like, um, you know, this week, like

1036
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: a guy on Fantasy aces that you'd like absolutely want

1037
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 1: to have, in my opinion is David Um David Johnson. Okay,

1038
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 1: why he's he's just like really cheap because he just

1039
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 1: got thrust into the role of the starter recently. And

1040
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 1: like you know, some of these sites they don't always

1041
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 1: update their like salaries like right away for players. So

1042
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 1: if there's a guy that's like just is going to

1043
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 1: start for the first time because like someone else got injured,

1044
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 1: like make sure you look for that guy on the

1045
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: daily Fantasy s salary might be prices if he's a backup,

1046
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 1: you know, David Johnson. So that's a sleeper guy. That's

1047
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: a guy to check for this week. He's not even

1048
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: a sleeper so much. He's just like a really valuable

1049
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: pick because he's cheap, but you know, people expect him

1050
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:31,439
Speaker 1: to do well, all right. I see, that's that's see

1051
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 1: That's what I'm talking about. Listen, my man right here

1052
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 1: is dress sharp. He does this for a living. Alright,

1053
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: he's he's not sweating, He's cool. Common collective. Yo, Corey,

1054
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: I gotta go. I wish you'd tremendous luck this weekend.

1055
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 1: I feel like if you win the three million dollars,

1056
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Speaker 1: you have to go to Official Fantasy Rings dot Com

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