WEBVTT - 10-28-20 HOUR 1- Jeff Passan 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:03.480 You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.560 --> 0:00:06.920 Sports Radio. Welcome to the program hour one on this Wednesday, 0:00:07.080 --> 0:00:10.080 Dan and the Dan at Stan Patrick Show. Congratulations to 0:00:10.160 --> 0:00:13.240 the Dodgers, the city of Los Angeles with the Lakers 0:00:13.280 --> 0:00:15.760 winning and now the Dodgers beating the Rays three one. 0:00:15.880 --> 0:00:20.799 Corey Seeger your MVP. But a game that was not 0:00:20.960 --> 0:00:25.560 without drama on the field, off the field, before the game, 0:00:25.680 --> 0:00:30.960 during the game, after the game, about to process. We'll 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:33.879 try to figure all of this out. We'll talk to 0:00:33.920 --> 0:00:37.280 the manager of the world champion LA Dodgers, Dave Roberts, 0:00:37.280 --> 0:00:38.960 will join us coming up a little bit later on 0:00:39.320 --> 0:00:43.000 Also check in with Sean Casey, Major League Baseball Network analyst. 0:00:43.200 --> 0:00:46.840 Buffalo Bill's quarterback Josh Allen's going to stop by as well. 0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:50.479 No baseball tonight, no NFL tonight, no college football tonight. 0:00:51.040 --> 0:00:53.400 When's the last time we had a night without one 0:00:53.400 --> 0:00:55.520 of the four major sports? I know we have some 0:00:55.640 --> 0:00:59.000 soccer tonight the Premier League, but probably back in July 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:02.959 was the first time that we have gone without sports 0:01:03.200 --> 0:01:05.920 in the evening. I think it's a good thing. I 0:01:05.959 --> 0:01:08.840 think we can all take a night off here. This 0:01:08.920 --> 0:01:11.240 is one of those where you reintroduce yourself to your family. 0:01:12.319 --> 0:01:15.200 Hopefully your wife doesn't see through you and your phoniness. 0:01:15.240 --> 0:01:16.800 Like you know, I'm going to take a night off 0:01:16.800 --> 0:01:19.280 from watching sports. I'd like to just be around you. Hunt. 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:23.720 Let's watch a show together. Let's watch a rom com together. 0:01:24.080 --> 0:01:26.000 If you like get in touch with the program you can. 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:28.600 You can dial us up Marvin Standing by eight seven 0:01:28.680 --> 0:01:32.080 seven three DP show email address a dpadan Patrick dot 0:01:32.080 --> 0:01:34.959 com Twitter handle at DPS show, say good morning to 0:01:35.080 --> 0:01:38.120 chat row our great radio Phili. It's around the country 0:01:38.400 --> 0:01:41.520 and Peacock. You can watch for free all three hours. 0:01:41.560 --> 0:01:44.360 Simply download the app. Got a stat of the day, 0:01:44.400 --> 0:01:46.520 Play of the day, all of that coming up, and 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:50.920 a pull question from mclovin as well. You can't blame 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:53.760 Dodger fans if they had become cynical, because for some 0:01:53.880 --> 0:01:56.600 time now the Dodgers were the best team in baseball. 0:01:57.000 --> 0:01:59.080 It didn't result in a championship, and a lot of 0:01:59.080 --> 0:02:02.400 people probably why would this year be different? Well, it 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:04.880 turns out there was one big reason why this year 0:02:04.960 --> 0:02:08.359 was different. His name is Mookie Bets. When the Dodgers 0:02:08.400 --> 0:02:10.760 traded for him from the Red Sox, there was a 0:02:10.760 --> 0:02:14.280 lot of hope in Los Angeles. Then that got derailed 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:17.119 for some time because of the pandemic, and then once 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:20.800 the season got going, the postseason arrived, Mookie proved just 0:02:20.840 --> 0:02:24.119 how special he was at the plate on the basis 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:27.320 in the field five tool player Game six of the 0:02:27.320 --> 0:02:31.040 World Series, he had a six sitting double, brilliant base running, 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:33.520 gave them the lead, added a solo homer in the eighth, 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:35.600 And of course there's a lot of credit to go 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:38.480 around here. Clayton Kershaw, the rest of the staff pitched well. 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:42.919 Corey Seeger was the MVP. Several players contributed. Dave Roberts 0:02:43.160 --> 0:02:45.880 hopefully we'll get some credit here as well. But while 0:02:45.960 --> 0:02:49.680 Corey Seeger was the MVP, Mookie Bets was the MVD. 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:54.320 He was the most valuable Dodger. There's a lot of 0:02:54.400 --> 0:02:58.440 questions with last night's game, and you know, you look 0:02:58.440 --> 0:03:00.560 at let me just start on the field to Justin 0:03:00.639 --> 0:03:03.720 Turner in a moment here, but just what was going 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:06.480 on with the pitching matchup? We thought it was going 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:10.720 to be a bullpen session for the Dodgers, and basically, 0:03:10.800 --> 0:03:13.040 let's see what happens in Game six. If we have 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:14.720 to go to a Game seven we have a well 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:20.480 rested walker Bueller, but you're using seven pitchers there and 0:03:20.639 --> 0:03:24.800 you allowed one earn run. Blake Snow was cruising. Blake 0:03:24.880 --> 0:03:28.280 Snell through the first four or five innings was brilliant 0:03:29.200 --> 0:03:33.560 seventy three pitches. But the analytics will tell you that 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:37.040 once he gets to the third go round in the lineup, 0:03:37.640 --> 0:03:40.800 that's when trouble happens for Snell. That's around the fifth 0:03:40.880 --> 0:03:43.680 or sixth inning. So if I gave you inning by 0:03:43.800 --> 0:03:47.920 inning ra before last night, for Blake Snell in the postseason, 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:51.800 first inning ERA is three point six zero, second inning 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:55.080 zero point zero zero, third inning one point eight zero, 0:03:55.400 --> 0:04:01.280 fourth inning zero point zero zero, fifth inning fourteen point 0:04:01.560 --> 0:04:06.440 seven three r A. Now, if you're gonna make a 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:10.840 decision based off of that the analytics, then you're probably 0:04:10.920 --> 0:04:13.720 looking at third time around. Top of the lineup with 0:04:13.760 --> 0:04:18.400 the Dodgers, Mookie Bets was leading off and Blake Snow 0:04:18.520 --> 0:04:21.520 was pulled by his manager, Kevin Cash. Here's what Kevin 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:23.840 Cash had to say as to why he took out 0:04:23.920 --> 0:04:28.760 his picture. The only motive was that the lineup line 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:31.240 up to the Dodgers features as potent as any team 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:33.479 in the league. Personally, I felt Blake had done his 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:36.600 job and then some Mookie coming around for the third 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:40.640 time through. I value that. I totally respect and understand 0:04:40.680 --> 0:04:43.880 the questions that come with it. Blake gave us every 0:04:43.880 --> 0:04:48.159 opportunity to win. He was outstanding. They're not easy decisions, 0:04:48.720 --> 0:04:51.159 and that's where I came to the decision. I felt 0:04:51.160 --> 0:04:53.880 it was best after the guy got on base Barnes 0:04:53.920 --> 0:04:57.520 hit the single. Didn't want Mookie seeing Mookie or Seeger 0:04:57.600 --> 0:05:03.479 seeing Blake a third time. Okay, if you're gonna criticize this, 0:05:03.680 --> 0:05:06.280 then you have to be critical prior to him pulling 0:05:06.279 --> 0:05:08.960 Blakes Now. The only thing I thought when I'm watching 0:05:08.960 --> 0:05:12.080 it is and I didn't know the ra in the 0:05:12.120 --> 0:05:14.839 fifth inning for him in the postseason the third time around, 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:17.119 I do know that Mookie was not hitting left hander 0:05:17.120 --> 0:05:20.239 as well. Mookie after the game on Fox the post 0:05:20.240 --> 0:05:23.200 game was like, we were happy to get rid of him. 0:05:23.360 --> 0:05:24.680 You know, I felt like I had a chance with 0:05:24.720 --> 0:05:27.360 somebody else. You want to bring in your reliever who 0:05:27.400 --> 0:05:31.320 hasn't pitched well in the postseason, Are you using analytics 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:34.520 with that decision? When you bring in Anderson? Are you 0:05:34.640 --> 0:05:37.560 using analytics to say, maybe we shouldn't be bringing him 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:39.760 in because he has not pitched well in the postseason. 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:44.600 There's something about analytics, and there's something about a gut feeling. 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:46.480 The only thing I would want to know if I'm 0:05:46.480 --> 0:05:49.400 the manager, all right, let me see where we are 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:51.559 on the pitch count, and I know that we're coming 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:54.640 up with the top of the lineup again. I just 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:56.520 want to know what my catcher is going to tell me, 0:05:58.360 --> 0:06:00.599 and I want him to tell me. Look, they're not 0:06:00.640 --> 0:06:03.080 even close to hitting him. You know, he's still got 0:06:03.120 --> 0:06:05.320 good velocity, he's got still still his good bite on 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:08.600 his breaking ball, like he was pitching so well and 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:13.120 in such control there. But I don't know if if 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:15.159 all of a sudden, you're catcher and I would say 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:16.600 to him, you got to be honest with me. I 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:18.919 don't even go to Blake Snell. I'd go to my 0:06:18.960 --> 0:06:22.240 catcher and say, I want you to put yourself in 0:06:22.279 --> 0:06:25.440 my position. What would you do? I mean, these are 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:28.480 big boy decisions here. This will stay with Kevin Cash 0:06:28.760 --> 0:06:32.200 for a long long time, and Blake Snell maybe was 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:34.920 going to get torched, maybe get lit up. I just 0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:39.400 I don't like being married to analytics because there also 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:41.960 has to be a gut feeling in the moment this 0:06:42.040 --> 0:06:45.680 is the World Series. Because if I'm Blake Snell, you say, 0:06:45.760 --> 0:06:48.239 let me try to win, but also let me try 0:06:48.320 --> 0:06:50.920 to lose the game too, And by that, I mean 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:53.719 let me stay out there. If I lose the game, 0:06:54.000 --> 0:06:56.800 I'm still I'm your best option. I want to be 0:06:56.880 --> 0:06:59.840 out there. I want to stay in. I want to 0:07:00.000 --> 0:07:02.279 which as long as I can to win. But even 0:07:02.320 --> 0:07:04.680 if I'm out there and we lose, I want to 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:07.120 be the guy on the mound. And it's rare when 0:07:07.120 --> 0:07:09.880 the picture gets to talk the manager out of a decision, 0:07:09.960 --> 0:07:13.760 because Kevin Cash came out there armed with analytics and 0:07:13.880 --> 0:07:17.440 basically was saying before he got out there, I'm taking 0:07:17.480 --> 0:07:20.520 you out. And Blake Snell knew that. And Blake Snell 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:22.720 was not thrilled. This is what he had to say 0:07:22.720 --> 0:07:26.720 about trying to stay on the mound and definitely disappointed, upset. 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:28.560 You know, I don't know, I just want the bar. 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:31.240 I felt good. I felt I did everything I could to, 0:07:31.360 --> 0:07:36.360 you know, prove my case to stay out there there 0:07:36.400 --> 0:07:38.320 for us to lose, you know, it just a sucks. 0:07:39.520 --> 0:07:41.880 What if he had left Blake Snell in and Blake 0:07:41.920 --> 0:07:45.760 Snell got torched, not the reliever, then we would be 0:07:46.040 --> 0:07:50.880 all over who today. You use your analytics all these months. 0:07:50.920 --> 0:07:53.000 That's the reason why you were the favorite in the 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:57.800 American League, and then you went against analytics. Because we're 0:07:57.800 --> 0:08:00.280 looking at the results here. I just want to know 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:03.920 what Blake Snell was thinking, and I want to know 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:07.640 what my catcher felt like he was seeing and feeling 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:11.440 and the reaction. You know, with the hitters too, you 0:08:11.440 --> 0:08:13.600 know how close are they? A lot of times you'll 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:16.600 see guys who are right on somebody's fastball. You know, 0:08:16.600 --> 0:08:19.160 they always say, oh, he just missed that. I didn't 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:22.600 get that feeling with the Dodgers. And then I'm bringing 0:08:22.640 --> 0:08:24.960 in a reliever who hasn't pitched well in the postseason. 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:29.400 What were the analytics on that? Because if I'm married 0:08:29.400 --> 0:08:32.440 to the analytics to take out my picture, then I'm 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:35.160 going to be married to the analytics of maybe not 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:40.280 bringing in that reliever. I feel like we should just 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:44.199 date analytics. I don't know if we should be marrying analytics. 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:47.920 I just want to date, you know, I think we 0:08:47.920 --> 0:08:53.640 should see other people, all right. Eight seven seven three 0:08:53.720 --> 0:08:56.480 d P show email address DP at dan Patrick dot com, 0:08:57.160 --> 0:08:59.960 mcleven You got a poll question for me. Yes, Paul, 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:03.200 he worded it, and I like it always trust analytics 0:09:03.520 --> 0:09:05.320 or your gut. So it's black and white. You can't 0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:07.640 go you can't go one or the other. Yeah, he 0:09:07.679 --> 0:09:12.079 can't be like, well, sometimes I'll trust analytics. I think 0:09:12.080 --> 0:09:13.920 it has to be noted that Andrew Friedman is the 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:16.640 president of the Dodgers, and he's like one of the 0:09:16.679 --> 0:09:19.080 grandfather you know, he's one of the He built the Rays. 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:21.800 He's like as analytics stud, theo Epstein one with the 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:24.400 Cubs and the Red Sox analytics stud Jeff lu Now 0:09:24.440 --> 0:09:28.640 and the Astros analytics analytics analytic. Dodgers pulled a perfect 0:09:28.679 --> 0:09:31.680 analytics game last night. They did one ending of their starter. 0:09:32.840 --> 0:09:37.160 The Astros had different analytics though. Yeah, they actually were 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:39.920 famous for their analytics and turned out was a garbage analytic. 0:09:42.200 --> 0:09:46.040 I understand analytics. It's not like I'm an analytics denier. 0:09:46.600 --> 0:09:49.160 It's just I think that you get married to something 0:09:49.679 --> 0:09:52.680 and it feels like in that moment you have to 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:55.480 have a human element. How many times do you see something? 0:09:55.840 --> 0:09:59.480 If we did analytics, Kurt Gibson wouldn't have come to 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:03.720 the plate. The Dodgers against the Oakland A's because we'd 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:08.320 say he can't catch up to Eckersley Madison Bumgardner probably 0:10:08.360 --> 0:10:10.640 wouldn't pitch as long as he did in games with 0:10:10.679 --> 0:10:13.840 the Giants when he was so brilliant. Like it feels 0:10:13.840 --> 0:10:17.319 like some great baseball moments would have been prevented because 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:19.760 of analytics. And that's the only thing that I get 0:10:19.800 --> 0:10:23.959 a little concerned about. And I've railed against analytics from 0:10:23.960 --> 0:10:26.160 the standpoint as I think it's taken the heart and 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:29.600 soul out of baseball. I don't think it's as enjoyable. 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:32.000 There's no movement. How many times do the Rays strike 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:35.160 out last night? You know, there's no on base percent, 0:10:35.280 --> 0:10:37.640 Like nobody cares about any of that stuff. And it 0:10:37.679 --> 0:10:42.439 feels like I'm celebrating Mookie Bets today because why in 0:10:42.480 --> 0:10:46.640 the field, great defense, on the bases and at the plate. 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:50.520 I'm looking at everything that he offers baseball and that's 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:55.200 what I love seeing. I don't like one dimensional, and 0:10:55.280 --> 0:10:59.119 baseball feels like is one dimensional, and that's where analytics 0:10:59.120 --> 0:11:00.920 sometimes comes in. It's like, hey, you don't need to 0:11:00.960 --> 0:11:04.320 take a you know, lay down a bunt, you know, 0:11:04.600 --> 0:11:06.000 steal a base. You don't have to do any of 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:11.640 those things. Yeah, maybe, but it felt like the Dodgers 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:14.640 did some small things in this series that helped them win. 0:11:15.120 --> 0:11:18.280 And I would have left Blake Snell in if I 0:11:18.320 --> 0:11:23.199 thought Blake Snell was still virtually unhitable. He wasn't striking out. 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:26.079 I don't know the last guy he struck out, McLevin. 0:11:26.160 --> 0:11:28.000 If you can find that, Paulie, do you have, then yeah, 0:11:28.000 --> 0:11:30.679 he Blake Snell struck out the side and the fourth inning, 0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:33.680 Seeger Muncie and Turner struck him out one two three. 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:36.200 In the fifth inning, he was it was a one 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:38.080 two three inning, but everyone got a bat on the ball, 0:11:38.640 --> 0:11:42.439 so that's the difference. So those are his last two innings. Yeah, yeah, 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:45.200 I would have left him in. It's the World Series. 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:48.679 If I knew if my answer was going to be 0:11:48.800 --> 0:11:52.760 a reliever who hadn't pitched well, then it makes me 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:55.760 stay with Snell a little bit longer. And it might 0:11:55.800 --> 0:11:57.959 be one of those where I say to him, if 0:11:58.000 --> 0:12:01.120 you give up a hit, I'm taking you out. But 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:06.880 I have to let him still be on the mound there. Yeah, mclovin. 0:12:07.520 --> 0:12:09.760 I don't know if the Nick Anderson thing is analytics, though, 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:11.920 I think like It's like one of those situations to 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:13.920 go with the guys. You got you there. You know 0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:16.719 why they kept trusting Nick Can He hadn't pitched well 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:19.760 in the postseason, so there was something about whatever he 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:22.320 was doing or not doing. I just feel like sometimes 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:25.040 the managers trust a reliever and they'll go down with 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:29.600 the ship. Analytics or non analytics. I mean, you know, 0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:31.439 I'll by the way, analytics would have love Kirk Gibson. 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:34.839 They love guys who can't run. That's like, that's like 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:38.079 the signature moneyball guy, a slow guy. All right, We're 0:12:38.120 --> 0:12:40.040 gonna take a break because I want to come back. 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:43.880 I want to talk about Justin Turner, what happened prior 0:12:43.920 --> 0:12:47.360 to the game, During the game. After the game, Dodgers 0:12:47.440 --> 0:12:51.240 respond to Justin Turner without a mask on, posing in 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:54.240 front of you know, everybody, with the World Series trophy there. 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:57.680 Commissioner got booed when he was handing out the World 0:12:57.760 --> 0:13:00.240 Series trophy. I didn't know there were enough fans and 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:03.800 the stands to make it sound that loud with all 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:07.839 the booze in there, but you got booed. 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We didn't know why at the time, but 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:21.640 Turner went over three He had two strikeouts. He came 0:15:21.680 --> 0:15:24.600 out of the game starting the eighth inning. The team 0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:27.400 didn't give a reason for his exit when he left, 0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:33.400 Sources told ESPN's Jeff Passing. Turner had been asked to 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:36.800 isolate after the positive test, but no one stopped him 0:15:36.800 --> 0:15:41.560 from going onto the field to celebrate. Sources told Passing 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:44.200 that in the second inning, the lab doing a COVID 0:15:44.320 --> 0:15:49.920 nineteen test informed Baseball Turner's test from Monday came back inconclusive. 0:15:51.280 --> 0:15:53.800 So that's in the second inning. It's unclear why the 0:15:53.840 --> 0:15:57.080 results of the test arrived after the game started, but 0:15:57.240 --> 0:15:59.200 we're trying to get somebody who was on the ground 0:15:59.200 --> 0:16:03.119 there to help us understand that sample's taken from Tuesday 0:16:03.240 --> 0:16:06.480 arrived at the lab and turner His were run immediately. 0:16:06.840 --> 0:16:09.520 When it showed up positive. The league called the Dodgers 0:16:09.520 --> 0:16:13.920 and said to pull Turner. The Dodgers didn't have a 0:16:14.000 --> 0:16:16.920 choice in this. I don't know how long they waited 0:16:16.960 --> 0:16:20.080 to pull him from the game. I don't know if 0:16:20.080 --> 0:16:22.840 this was a case of Jeff Passon or Kenny Rosenthal 0:16:22.920 --> 0:16:25.960 maybe finding this out and the Dodgers had to pull him, 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:28.960 or Major League Baseball had to pull him. Why you 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:32.440 get results back during a game? That was the strange 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:35.200 part of it. What kind of you know, COVID protocol 0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:38.800 do you have that you're running test and you're getting 0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:45.080 results back to you during a game. Here is Andrew Friedman, 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:49.040 the Dodgers president, on Justin Turner testing positive. It was 0:16:49.080 --> 0:16:55.640 obviously a really unfortunate endpoint of this incredible series and 0:16:56.040 --> 0:17:00.520 definitely affected some of the joy from winning, just because 0:17:00.560 --> 0:17:03.200 of how much JT is meant to us and him 0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:04.800 not being able to be on the field for that 0:17:04.880 --> 0:17:08.800 final out with everything he's done for this organization. But 0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:11.560 you know, it's something that is no one's fault. It's 0:17:11.600 --> 0:17:15.000 just how things played out, and you know, we'll figure 0:17:15.040 --> 0:17:18.719 out exactly how to proceed going forward, because I'm going 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:21.760 to assume that everybody's going to get tested again after 0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:25.840 the game, before they go their merry way after winning. 0:17:26.400 --> 0:17:28.320 Are they going to have a celebration. Is there going 0:17:28.359 --> 0:17:30.680 to be some kind of celebration in Los Angeles? Will 0:17:30.680 --> 0:17:33.600 they get together for that? I think Justin Turner is 0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:37.439 a free agent in waiting here. But last Dave Roberts 0:17:37.440 --> 0:17:39.239 when he joins us a little bit later on and 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:42.280 We're trying to get somebody who was there at the game, 0:17:42.280 --> 0:17:44.520 whether it's Jeff Passon or Kenny Rosenthal, and I know 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:46.960 they're being pulled in a lot of different directions. We're 0:17:47.000 --> 0:17:49.920 just curious about this whole process and how it got 0:17:49.920 --> 0:17:51.960 to the point where you find out in the second 0:17:52.000 --> 0:17:54.400 inning and the next thing you know, in the eighth inning, 0:17:54.400 --> 0:17:57.040 he's pulled and there was no reason given, and then 0:17:57.040 --> 0:17:59.639 he's out there celebrating. He had his mask on for 0:17:59.720 --> 0:18:03.080 most to the time, but he insisted on not having 0:18:03.080 --> 0:18:05.320 his mask on when they had the World Series trophy 0:18:05.359 --> 0:18:10.159 there and that was briefly there. But Baseball realizes it 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:11.760 was not a good look last night. That's why the 0:18:11.760 --> 0:18:15.040 commissioner said, you know that there was a bittersweet moment 0:18:15.200 --> 0:18:18.040 for Major League Baseball. Yeah, poll. One thing that confused me, 0:18:18.040 --> 0:18:20.520 I had like clarity on is if MLB knows that 0:18:20.600 --> 0:18:23.320 Justin Turner has tested positive. Let's say, in the middle 0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:26.440 of the seventh inning, did I wonder if they considered 0:18:26.920 --> 0:18:28.800 letting him finish out the game since there was two 0:18:28.800 --> 0:18:31.320 more innings he had already played seven innings, or were 0:18:31.320 --> 0:18:33.280 they in a position where if they do that that 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:35.840 would be disaster knowingly let a player finish a game. 0:18:35.920 --> 0:18:38.919 If somebody found that out right, then it would be 0:18:38.960 --> 0:18:42.040 that baseball. Baseball has been so great. They've had no 0:18:42.119 --> 0:18:46.840 positive test for fifty eight days, none and then you 0:18:46.880 --> 0:18:50.480 get one at this point and was it a false positive? 0:18:50.600 --> 0:18:53.320 We weren't quite sure. It was inconclusive. Then you run 0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:56.280 the test again and then it comes back, and then 0:18:56.280 --> 0:19:00.440 you say, we got a pulling from the game. There's 0:19:00.480 --> 0:19:03.919 there's more to this story. I don't know what direction 0:19:03.960 --> 0:19:06.480 it goes in, but it feels like there's a whole 0:19:06.520 --> 0:19:08.560 lot more to this story. And plus he had been 0:19:08.560 --> 0:19:12.639 around his teammates this whole time. And what are the 0:19:12.640 --> 0:19:16.800 odds that if Justin Turner has this, that other players 0:19:16.800 --> 0:19:21.359 in the Dodger roster are not infected. Maybe they're asymptomatic, 0:19:21.880 --> 0:19:26.880 but you have wives there, families there. Oh. But we're 0:19:26.880 --> 0:19:29.800 trying to get answers, and Fritzie has done a great job. 0:19:29.840 --> 0:19:32.240 He's trying to track down somebody who was there at 0:19:32.280 --> 0:19:34.880 the game. Eight seven seven three D P show email 0:19:34.880 --> 0:19:37.600 address DP of Dan Patrick dot com. We're talking about analytics. 0:19:37.600 --> 0:19:39.960 We just got to tweet Phil who was a Cubs 0:19:40.000 --> 0:19:43.760 fan since eighty nine says the Houston Astros used trash canalytics. 0:19:44.400 --> 0:19:47.320 I think that's a that's pretty good trash cantalytic, Champong. 0:19:48.320 --> 0:19:50.080 I guess we got to get into this at some point. 0:19:50.119 --> 0:19:53.560 How much do you blame or not blame Justin Turner 0:19:53.600 --> 0:19:55.760 for his actions after the game. He waited till well 0:19:55.880 --> 0:19:58.880 after maybe MLB officials were out of the clubhouse or whatever, 0:19:58.920 --> 0:20:00.679 and went on the field. I was told not to 0:20:00.680 --> 0:20:04.359 go out there, told, but not physically restrained or anything. Well, 0:20:04.400 --> 0:20:06.520 I'm saying I think I know what I would do 0:20:06.560 --> 0:20:08.000 if I were in that situation I was just In 0:20:08.040 --> 0:20:11.040 turn I would probably do the similar thing I would, 0:20:11.160 --> 0:20:13.720 you know, I would probably more. I don't know if 0:20:13.720 --> 0:20:16.240 he's a Dodger in four months from now, and I 0:20:16.240 --> 0:20:18.000 think I would probably go out and get the picture 0:20:18.000 --> 0:20:20.440 of my teammates with a mask on if I could. 0:20:21.160 --> 0:20:24.400 I just know myself and my wife and obviously whatever 0:20:24.440 --> 0:20:27.080 I have, she has um I have. But these are 0:20:27.080 --> 0:20:30.440 your teammates and other people around you, and you can't 0:20:30.480 --> 0:20:33.080 be careless. I know you want to celebrate, but you 0:20:33.119 --> 0:20:35.320 can't be careless. I think I would have. I think 0:20:35.320 --> 0:20:38.280 I would have gone out there and said I'm I'm 0:20:38.359 --> 0:20:40.800 possibly positive, and I'm gonna go out and get the 0:20:40.840 --> 0:20:43.280 picture and do two or three minutes and then move on. 0:20:43.320 --> 0:20:46.000 I wasn't gonna do the monkey pile with him and 0:20:46.440 --> 0:20:48.520 jostling around him. And he shouldn't been out there. He 0:20:48.560 --> 0:20:51.680 shouldn't be out there. And if you are out there, 0:20:51.680 --> 0:20:54.760 wear a mask the whole time. But you know, it's 0:20:54.840 --> 0:20:59.000 just it's that's not a good look. Not a good look. 0:20:59.000 --> 0:21:02.119 And it's a fortunate moment because it takes away from 0:21:02.160 --> 0:21:04.320 a greater moment that the Dodgers won the World Series. 0:21:04.359 --> 0:21:06.000 Yah see in the moment though, it's got to be 0:21:06.000 --> 0:21:08.080 pretty difficult, Yes it is. It's got to be pretty 0:21:08.080 --> 0:21:11.000 difficult to lay off on that. But you're already told 0:21:11.440 --> 0:21:14.000 that you're you're taken out of the game in the 0:21:14.040 --> 0:21:16.520 eighth inning and you're told by Major League Baseball to 0:21:16.680 --> 0:21:21.400 not go on the field. It's a tough moment. Baseball 0:21:21.440 --> 0:21:25.560 tells you not to go on the field. Your Dodger 0:21:25.840 --> 0:21:33.280 president Andrew Friedman talked about it. So you know, it's 0:21:33.359 --> 0:21:35.960